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[@zayd55]

A lot of these callers are disingenuous with how much they choose to disclose.

[@xpacnwo2000]

Abbas has the patience of a hedgehog

[@nazeemsultan1038]

Ex muslim : my father was the caliph of abbasid empire 😂

[@ziadyasser341]

Yeah, as someone from a Muslim family who is questioning Islam, I don't understand why all ex-muslims' fathers are imams, sheikhs or a caliph😂

[@alpha475]

@@ziadyasser341ask as many questions as you can. Think critically. Inshallah all your doubts will be dealt with

[@ziadyasser341]

@@alpha475 insha'Allah if he exists, he will guide me to the truth.

[@AlwaysHope_]

I agree with Abbas at the 8:48 mark on the arrogance on ways humans assess of God instead of God’s ability. I also loved Imran on science he’s very knowledgeable.

[@sutil5078]

Hello AlwaysHope I agree with what you said, Arrogance may lead us to be misguidance.. and yes Imran is spot on and knows a lot ma sha Allah , well said he came again in: The Open Forum Episode 56 time stamp is at 46:02 - Idris' contentions to accepting Islam in that, brother Abbas, Ijaz, and Imran explained their intelligent counter argument further.. very eye opener for those who hold same view as Idrise .. May Allah guide us all..

[@Uthopemus]

They should have asked him to recite Fatiha 😅

[@wiemasen]

He's an atheist, not ex muslim

[@1OnlyOneOnlyOne1]

Ah the good old ''bad things happen so god don't exist'' arguement.

[@fromhersanctuary]

I honestly thought he said my dad was a mom. Moving on…

[@shokydance]

Salaam brothers keep up the good work. Allah reward you iA

[@Auto-db5ig]

I'm always amazed at how Allah answers people's supplications, including mine. There are countless incredible stories out there.

[@Sali8two]

May Allah guide him to Islam, in sha Allah.

[@MrTewf]

His question brought me to Maryam RA mom's prayer to conceive boy but Allah SWT blessed her with better girl. Allah SWT is the best planner.

[@ALzzanam]

جزاكم الله خيرا

[@Noah-ol2of]

Thank you for this interveiw

[@AbbaJifarTube]

Oh lol my dad was imam 😂😅😂😂😂

[@sutil5078]

📌 📍 NOTE : This was in The Open Forum 55, time stamp around 42 minute in the stream.. and for anyone interested in continuing this debate, he came again in The Open Forum 56 again and brother Abbas, Ijaz, and Imran explained their intelligent counter argument further.. very eye opener for those who hold same view as Idrise ..

[@febrinawindasari4618]

Thank you so much

[@sutil5078]

Febrinawindasari, you are very welcome, if you have any quesitons, doubts, etc please do here or find me, I will gladly help. May the creator have mercy on you, envelope you with his love, and grant you success in both worlds this and the one to come and all of us. Amin

[@andrewmarvel3200]

They all say their father was an imam hhhh

[@blissfulbirdy]

I don't understand why people don't read the Quran before denying it... What is the actual point of this conversation? Jazakallah khair brothers Imran and Abbas 🙌

[@freeman7983]

Baraka ALLAHU fikoum

[@knowledge-n-Wisdom]

This guy is cleary dishonest

[@1OnlyOneOnlyOne1]

I love brother Abbas.

[@thebelgianlad3813]

Any chance we can get the full stream please?

[@user-zq1cm5ce2v]

A scale cannot weigh itself.

[@Dawah_Help]

Perhaps "our" fallible Criteria ~ tool e.g. a microscope (analogy). Micro-organisms existed before we had the tools to discover them, but they still existed.

[@mariamsaleh6521]

If everyones prayers are answered immediately and consistently ; this would equate to to bringing the supernatural into natural thus invalidating the test that all messengers offered to mankind .

[@ashikelahie6035]

MashaAllah. Beautifully said.

[@hailstorm4447]

I feel honored. He is the son of an Imam, and yet he doesn't believe in Allah and his attributes. He probably knows more about Islam than I do. I know next to nothing. But I wholeheartedly believe in Allah and I feel blessed that He has put in my heart love for Him and His religion. Subhan'Allah.

[@ibrahimkamara9508]

Didn't you all know that it's basically REQUIRED for your father to be an imam for you to leave Islam?

[@82medical]

😂🤣😂

[@MrMetalWarlock]

😂😂

[@syedhasan8181]

When One closes his mind towards Allah, Allah closes up his mind as well and he no longer sees the signs that the believers see. This is exactly what happened to this individual. He made a choice of turning towards disbelief hearing the whispers of Shaytaan. Now he must first of all prostrate to Allah and ask for HIs guidance sincerely. This is the first dua he must make and without Allah accepting this dua, all other dua he makes would fail.

[@mrhamzah18]

Well said mashallah

[@sutil5078]

that what I think always when I see people are confused (regardless if they are ex muslim or not) prostrate and ask God with sincerity.. as for Du'a God may give him his other du'a "wa namuduhum fei tughyanhim ya'mahoon " .. Also sometimes God out of mercy respond to any one in distress.. and some do return..

[@odeebob7826]

This guy believes he can harm Islam with his weak arguments, and this verse from the Quran perfectly applies to his character. [“ And do not be grieved, [O Muhammad], by those who hasten into disbelief. Indeed, they will never harm Allah at all. Allah intends that He should give them no share in the Hereafter, and for them is a great punishment. “ ] Quran 3 : 176

[@mohamedbah1203]

Allahu Akbar ☝🏽☝🏽☝🏽

[@mrhamzah18]

I don’t feel like this person really wants to believe regardless what you say. If you don’t want to believe then don’t believe, no one is forcing you. What you need to ask yourself is why are scared of hell fire when you don’t believe it’s true! If you are scared then ask yourself why?!? Either Islam is the truth or there is nothing after we die I rather pray and do what the creator asked, it fills my heart mind and soul with peace and if there is nothing then I’m not going to know about it!

[@Mohamed--Aden]

When you read the study’s of chimp-human genome comparison they use those assumptions first, then find evidence “98% the same genome”* *a third of the genome is excluded due to mismatch, nucleotides that repeat or found in different spots are treated as identical, also forget that most mammals share similar proteins, metabolic pathways, etc. that will show up in Oh look 60% shared DNA with the banana I just ate*

[@sengfuestion8386]

I'm curious to learn more about this. Can you send me a source?

[@Dawah_Help]

"Great minds think alike"...the mention of a chimp primed my fitra to think about comparing it with a banana too! 🍌

[@fadwajansenmoufti5112]

Salam Brother Idris glad you called in BUT there are more non believers that know more about Islam...lets blame ourselves if we dont understand our religion and what Allah wants from us and or any subject before we start saying it is wrong 🤷🏻‍♀️...Islam covers all if you learn Quran, Hadeeth and the Islamic scholars...but NO we want to get a little bit of knowledge and start questioning Allah, the Prophet and Islam...InshAllah Brother i pray you are open to the truth 🤲🤲🤲😊

[@SC-uv5le]

This prayer argument from brother Idrese is just illogical. Imagine what will happen if Allah has to accept the prayer of every Muslim? This world will then be a more chaotic place. Remember no sane person wants to suffer.

[@sloopycat1954]

I would not literally believe scientists like this imams son for 2 reasons they could be mistaken and they could be telling lies, I find it's quite a common occurrence amongst educated Muslims who drift away from their faith. Great video thankyou

[@user-zq1cm5ce2v]

Thought, word and Deed alignment...

[@user-zq1cm5ce2v]

My brother Idrise should listen to Dr.Norman Fincklestein PhD.

[@Lok-The-Man]

Regarding the last point: Can’t we take someones elses (who is qualified in the field) testimony for a fact?

[@shainn2237]

we can take the study as valid but the conclusion they are drawing we should only take if they are drawn from valid presuppositions. but as brother imran stated the conclusions are made from the presupposition that everything has a natural cause and homology(that similarities are due to common descent) both of these need proof of themselves. but without proving them it is bascially circular reasoning saying the explanation has to be natural and similar genes are to similar descent(without proof) then looking at the genes and saying yes they come from similar descent. so the reasoning is similarity is due to similar descent thats why this similarity proves similar descent. this would be like saying similarities are due to the same creator thus the similarities we find are proof of the creator. we need to proof the presuppositions first for the conclusion to be true other wise it is circular reasoning. and with allah swt we have the proof of quran and many other arguments to prove this presupposition. the same can not be said for the presupposition of naturalism and homology. i hope this made sense.

[@Dawah_Help]

Is it reasonable to assume that a qualified person may be endowed with knowledge, yet unethical e.g. a medical doctor who kills his patients as an extreme but rare potential possibility? How do we base our lived lives? Do we trust the airplane pilot or worry that he is going to deliberately crash the plane? 🛬

[@shainn2237]

@@Dawah_Help ?

[@johnedward1852]

people think if you prayed to Allah for something your prayer should be answered....its stupid to think like....sometimes more often than not Allah already answered your prayer you never notice it as all the blessing you got you take it for granted...Allah is our God and He do what He wills and not according to our will......people often forgot that...and atheism or other religion and ideology dont offer anything at all if you ponder about it....see the current world right now justice can be bought family relationship hv no values and everyone become more selfish and demand absurd thing day by day...no religion or ism except islam that hv all the solution for these problems that we are facing today....

[@mohdhafiz9955]

Son of imam? Where did I heard the same script all over again?

[@SyahidanIbnMokhtar]

Another fake ex Muslim lol

[@AbbaJifarTube]

The same script for all fake exzs😅

[@MrAdamPoulter]

Yeah struggling to believe that

[@mohdhafiz9955]

And the script continues: I also become of imam in al Azhar/ local imam, then continued with the most broken recitation of any simple surah

[@danalmariti509]

Imam may mean that in your local masjid your dad was the most qualified to lead the prayer.

[@mohammadiskandarmohammadgh6534]

Allah gives a great explaination in surah Al-Kahfi (The cave dweller) about why this world works they way it does. Read at the part where Prophet Moses pbuh interacted with Prophet Khindir.

[@ayyel551]

Ikrima ra dad was Abu jahl. Ibrahim as dad was a pagan. What the point of mentioning your dad.

[@HajjiJesus]

Noah's son was a disbeliever. There is no association between what one chooses and the choice of their blood relative.

[@mohamedbah1203]

I love both comments.❤ Even some practising Muslims misunderstand these examples

[@amaanhussainbarbhuyan9628]

Ibrahim as uncle was pagan not dad

[@mycommintmycomment2312]

His father was I am and he know Sura in Estinja and he can recite ablution. He know there are 9 prayers a day. He know you pray fist and later you do wadu 😂

[@mohammeddimari4769]

The guy keeps saying I'm not convinced and when asked, what are the things that you are not convinced about, he runs dismisses the question and refuses to substantiate his claims.

[@RayOfHope8]

❤️❤️❤️🌹🌹🌹🤲🤲🤲🤚

[@itisyouthatiadore]

This guy is definitely lying and not muslim at all.

[@faiyazkhan5970]

Philosophy really messes with people minds. No great philosopher was a prophet of God.

[@mariamsaleh6521]

There is good philosophy and bad philosophy.the prophet saw alluded too this .i see good philosophy in quran

[@faiyazkhan5970]

@@mariamsaleh6521 Please provide a reference for your claim.

[@Suwie1991]

@@mariamsaleh6521 Show us then. Where is the evidence?

[@Dawah_Help]

That is a big claim, do you have the evidence to speak about the numerous unmentioned prophets with such certainty my dear brother?

[@Dawah_Help]

@@Suwie1991 Define philosophy? If it includes the usage of logic e.g. if the sun & moon set, that could include one. I wonder about Surah Luqman?

[@Dawah_Help]

The limits of imperfect "change as the facts change" SCIENCE catching up as opposed to SCIENTISM, where the facts change to match the theory. This is similar to the blind-folded scholars each touching a different body part of an elephant & extrapolating guessing wrongly based on their limited facts known by them tale. 🐘

[@mohamedelmorabet5228]

I think it has to do with not wanting to submit, Allah swt says, in the creation of the heavens and the earth and in the alternation of night and day are signs for people of understanding, those who use their reason correctly, wanting to explain life via evolution is one thing, but how do you explain the creation of the cosmos? of our planet and billions of other gigantic planets? (O yes, matter from nothing formed by nothing/coincidence over a period of billions of years, good explanation, who believes in fairy tales now? little is what you overthink, little is what your arguments produce. May Allah gide us all amine

[@bachoundaseddik250]

I dont want to pretend or see inside this man, but those are just signs of just wanting something else beyond reason and he dont care about establishing anything, he just kept saying "yeah but all of them" "yeah suuur but this is not the thing there is something else " may allah guide him and erase that satanic way of thinking

[@user-zq1cm5ce2v]

Mr.Idrise got triggered at 27 minutes.Big time.

[@leegenddss]

its fine his grandfather was neanderthal and apes while our is Adam (P.H), Alhamdulillah for Islam

[@someoneIikedyourcomment]

When Prophet talk about a slave will give birth to her master. Here we have a slave give orders to God to be fulfilled ASAP.

[@wiktormytych9881]

I was thinking the same thing. Allah says in Quran whenever something bad happens to a person he cry’s out to God, but the moment he is relieved of the burden he forgets and is not grateful for it.

[@blissfulbirdy]

Okay let's just say for argument sake, we came from apes through evolution... A Creator would still be necessary for the existence of this said chain... Now what? Lol

[@BrakaInu]

you can tell he is definitely not a Muslim Specially when u believe in evolution, thats a joke indeed

[@sciencedaan11]

Bismillah Ma’Shaa’Allah

[@abdulla.binayaf]

Doctor Imran should have asked him about the baby he was carrying while talking. was it a chimpanzee or Ape since he share ancestors with them.

[@ralvira05ra]

It's clear that he hasn't read the Quran and can't come up with anything more than returning to his argument, he thinks that the Quran is like the Bible

[@JHKuen]

I’m very surprised this guy doesn’t understand much about Islam when he’s mother and father supposedly very religious Muslims. Basically I am shocked

[@kawembayakobo4184]

He will end up in hell that he is denying.. Is he not convinced with Monotheism in the Quran!!

[@rox4653]

He is contradicting himself and his reality he said why should i pray to be heald and etc. When he real lif should work for everthinh that he want if he get sick he should work and have money and medical insurance so he can get heald from his disease.

[@blissfulbirdy]

If Allah accepted all prayers, how different would this planet be to Jannah? Silly argument for atheism really...

[@Leesin0071]

This brother thinks the relationship between God is transactional. "I pray and therefore God gives me X"' This Is what happens when you lack knowledge, tawhid and proper aqeedah. This brother is either disingenuous or incredibly misled.

[@kakalam6004]

So his best argument is: Quran is in error because evolution is true. A formal fallacy of affirming a disjunct.

[@jamalabdulmajid5815]

I fear for myself and family and the ummah, the dajjal had yet appear but look at this they were easily succumb to the themptation

[@seanou2837]

he is using christian mentality to talk about Islam..which tells you who he really is.

[@odeebob7826]

Thank you brothers for debunking the arguments made by the uninformed atheist about Islam.

[@user-yn3gf4kx2n]

Sorry l follow it for 5 minutes only,,,,quite dull,,,,MY DAD IS AN IMAM,,,,huhu,,, and the brothers and this channel naively believed it in totality and give the title EX MUSLIM ,huhu,,,apparently this channel like to promote EX MUSLIM mantra and often used EX MUSLIM as their title,,,huhu,,,,very upsetting because if you used the EX MUSLIM very often it give the impression that there are so many EX MUSLIMS around

[@sheik74hamid46]

Jesus didn't EXIST in timeline of Roman JUDEA Qur'an Masih is a title not a name jesus son of Mary Hebrew Miriam Egyptian origin two words meri amun ( meaning beloved of god)The word Messiah is not from Hebrew its origin is ancient Egyption title MESSU ( Hebrew eshu/yeshu Arabic masih ) to anoint a king to be with crocodile 🐊 fat Jews NEVER baptised Egyptian used to baptise in Nile and circumcised kept there hair side locks long Jews NEVER addressed god as the father ancient Egyptian kings address god as father and kings was known as son of god as title yes they had many throne titles the MESIAH was known as the saviour redeemer salvation of it's people no historical archaeology evidence of suleman temple in Jerusalem it's in Egypt Hebrew shelaman= peace of Amun Jerusalem Hebrew ur shelem ( place of peace) its the temples name not a TOWN isiah 53 Immanuel In Hebrew is amunel meaning Amun is El (god)

[@Dawah_Help]

A sheik with such a weak respect, heedlessness or command for the very tools of written communication, hmmm?

[@samiaziz5]

Allah the Pagan ☪ Moon god.. ▪︎Archaeologist & historian, Hugo Winckler, identified Hubal as a pagan moon god, and claims that worship of Allah evolved from that of Hubal, thus making Allah a pagan "moon god" too. (Robert Morey's 1994 book 'Moon-god in the Archeology of the Middle East'). ▪︎ Al-'Uzza, al-Lat and Manah were the three pagan daughters of Allah, supposedly the offspring of Allah's marriage to a Jinn and had their sanctuaries in the pagan Kabba Mecca which later became the birth place of Islam. (The Oxford Dictionary of Islam). ▪︎ In a weak moment Muhammad was tempted to recognize the 3 powerful deities Al-'Uzza, al-Lat and Manah of Mecca and make a compromise in their favour, but afterwards he retracted and the revelation is said to have received the form now found in.. (Quran 53:19-20) .. ▪︎ After Muhammad entered and conquered Mecca in 630, he destroyed the statue of Hubal from the Kaaba along with 360 idols of all the other pagan polytheistic gods including the idols representing Allah's 3 daughters. Moreover, Muhammad retained the god Allah, the Kabba, Hajj, Jinn, Rituals and Blackstone etc. for Islam. (The Oxford Dictionary of Islam; khanacademy.org)...

[@Dawah_Help]

As I mentioned above, after 1993 we never cared what Robert Morey was doing to earn his bread and butter. We contacted Robert Morey in good faith and requested him to send his degree to the Faith Theological Seminary Gujranwal, Pakistan for verification as we do not have his name on our graduating class in March 1996. We also intended to validate his degree in case he did deserve such honor from Faith Theological Seminary, Gujranwala Pakistan. We did mention that if he did not get his degree verified from us, we shall let the people of United States that the degree that is claimed by Robert Morey was given to him in our name without our knowledge, consent or permission. Having no moral courage, Robert Morey immediately declared me a Muslim and he used filthy language. He wrote, you are probably a Muslim who want to kill those who awarded the degree of Doctor of Divinity to find a place in Islamic whorehouse paradise. He totally ignored my first name “Timotheus” and tried to hide behind my last name “Nasir”. I was surprised that how could a Christian scholar ignored “Timotheus” which is a Greek name translated in English, “Timothy”. More over the letter ended with the wording, “In Lord Jesus Christ”. How could a Muslim write these word? Further I had written “Rt. Rev. Dr. Major (Retired) Timotheus Nasir”. The first thought of any Christian would have been that the writer is a Bishop and certainly a Christian as the Muslims do not prefix the words “Right Reverend” with their names. More over I started the letter with my introduction that I am the Principal/President of Faith Theological Seminary Gujranwala Pakistan. He wrote that he has not heard of me from Pakistani Christians living in Philadelphia. I agreed that no one knows me in Philadelphia but people who desecrated our degree in Blackwood New Jersey know me too well and If I say some of them know me since last 56 years I would not be wrong. After this the real Robert Morey revealed himself fully by calling me “Anti-Christ” and “idiot”. Then came his e-mail informing me that he has “blocked” my further “e-mails” and gave reference of Matthew 7:9. He used the Holy Bible to abuse me and call me “dog” and “swine”. This is how I concluded that Robert Morey is nothing but a “thief” who was caught “Red Handed”. He had no answer but use abusive language for me. Then came his “slaves and parasites” to rescue him with their “internet and encyclopedia knowledge”. Gave illogical arguments to save Robert Morey from the “shame” he was going through. Finally he recollected his shattered state of mind and posted his “illegal” and “forged” degree on his web site www.faithdefenders.com Robert Morey posted “garbage” on his web site. There he translated my name from Timotheus Nasir to Timothy Nasir. I don’t know who authorized him to change my name from “Timotheus” to “Timothy”? Earlier we had canceled the degree of Doctor of Divinity and sent him a certificate of the canceled degree. (You can read the certificate in News section of our web site www.siloampak.org). The point to note is that how someone sitting in America on 10th of August 1996 could sign this statement, that he or they have affixed their name in “Gujranwala Pakistan on this 10th day of August 1996? There was no legal representative of Faith Theological Seminary Gujranwala Pakistan present in Blackwood New Jersey in the so-called ceremony at Blackwood New Jersey. The Faith Theological Seminary holds its annual graduation at Gujranwala Pakistan in the month of March each year. The date of Graduation is announced in December each year and the candidates are informed well in time. Therefore any degree awarded to any one that is not awarded in the month of March from Gujranwala Pakistan is forged, fake, illegal and fraud and Robert Morey stands guilty of all the charges that are mentioned above. Now Robert Morey may give any justification on his degree, no sane person will accept that. He has been proven guilty of forgery, keeping and using illegal and fake degree and fraudulently using it with his name. It must also be noted that no one in the world has right to validate the degree that has been fraudulently issued in our name. Only we have the right to validate or cancel any such degree keeping in view the character of the individual. In Robert Morey we found a man who is a thief, a liar, a cheat and a fraud. We do not honor such shameful individuals. Robert Morey must forget that he ever got a degree of Doctor of Divinity from Faith Theological Seminary Gujranwal Pakistan. The sooner he does that the better it is for him. Please see down below the Fake Degree and the Notification of the cancellation of the degree that Robert Morey claims.

[@GrayWolf1997]

Allah means The GOD not moon god 😅

[@niklas8279]

May Allah Azzawajal guide you

[@Dawah_Help]

DEISM ~ deadbeat Dad (metaphorical analogy)

[@JHKuen]

You can hear him pressing keyboard when asked a question. This dude is a liar!