I dreamed of Jesus so he is real! | Torrey - Maryland | Atheist Experience 23.15

The Atheist Experience episode 23.15 for April 14, 2019 with Matt Dillahunty & Don Baker.
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[@TechGamesAU]

“I was indoctrinated” dude started out fully honest.

[@fishcious]

but he went downhill from there.

[@jensrogerkristoffersen5472]

at 22:10 he also admits to being "a bit of a conspiracy theorist" I have always had a hard time understanding how someone can regard them self as a sceptic on the basis of not believing in science and general accepted truth, and then spend energy on defending anything there is still not a single proof of, be it flat earth, bigfoot or God.

[@Marchant2]

@@jensrogerkristoffersen5472 At least with big foot, we have blurry pictures. I have yet to see a blurry picture of a flat earth.

[@derekmizer6293]

@@Marchant2 blurry pictures of a flat earth. Good one. 🤣🤣🤣

[@brianjosephmedia1086]

I would have been like. I was indoctrinated with it -OK thanks for calling.

[@NN-wc7dl]

Not making the distinction between dreams and reality = the very essence of Christianity.

[@ralfhaggstrom9862]

Prefering DREAMS ! .......................

[@derekmizer6293]

Absolutely. Theists have difficulty in differentiating between reality and fiction.

[@cchagrinmetal5574]

Whenever a caller says “I totally get your point” it’s almost certain that they didn’t get the point.

[@PhilipLeitch]

YES! I totally get your point!

[@jayzenitram9621]

Especially when it's immediately followed by a "but".

[@庫倫亞利克]

They're just trying to speed up the process to their turn of speaking when they say that.

[@teresaamanfu7408]

Philip Leitch 😃😀😄

[@j.oaklley8965]

When Atheist open there mouths they lie. They have no proof, bashing Jesus is not proof.

[@norml6874]

L Ron Hubbard quote "I'd like to start a religion. That's where the money is!"

[@joecoolioness6399]

And now his "religion" is worth BILLIONS of dollars and they don't pay taxes on much of it. What a farce this religion game is.

[@how2pick4name]

I read a book about dragons, then I dreamt of dragons, so dragons are real. :D

[@j.oaklley8965]

Jesus and the Bible are real. Matt is a lier!!!

[@debbiehenri7170]

A friend once dreamt she opened her front door and a giant rabbit slapped her face with a fish. Can't see that one being real any time soon. Gave us a huge laugh tho.

[@MehranHalimiAsl]

Existence of dragons are way more likely than Jesus

[@Plysdyret1]

I dreamed I was at my old work and I had to make breakfast for some guests at a hotel. But I was too late and the guests had already come down to the restaurant before I had finished making the breakfast!

[@j.oaklley8965]

Jesu is all that matters. Mans opnions and excuses are pathetic.

[@JonaChristoe]

I dreamt that I won the lottery. I went to the local Mercedes Benz dealership... they said they didn't deal in dream currency. Go figure.

[@billasswhole9995]

LOL, Thats a good one.

[@Ghost-pb4ts]

Rofl

[@TallSilentGuy]

You should have hurried down to the dealership BEFORE you woke up, doofus!

[@JonaChristoe]

@LordKellthe1st LOL

[@JonaChristoe]

@@TallSilentGuy why didn't I think of that...

[@codyzed331]

"Well, I was indoctrinated by that, quite honestly..." No kidding!

[@rob_lucci9100]

I appreciate his honesty

[@rob_lucci9100]

@ady nails personally I just feel bad for most Christians cuz to me, they're just victims, just like I am and I'm trying not to be. But it's really painful when you have a talk with your own mom and realise that she's way worse than this guy. And even worse still when you realise that she's teaching this shit to your 3 younger brothers

[@sylicone6952]

jamie Russell Well the world can be viewed as shit for some people. The world can also be viewed as da holy place which god gave us. So what's your point?

[@sylicone6952]

jamie Russell Not sure on how to respond to your answer. So umm what about this awareness of a worldview?

[@davidsmith-uw2ci]

yeah it's at least refreshing to hear one of them admitting it

[@davidstorrs]

"Do you get vaccinated?" and then later on "Here we are in 2019." That actually aged extremely well. Almost prescient.

[@jasonhiatt3667]

I know this comment was a year ago but I just watched this video for the first time and that’s exactly why I was thinking here in 2023

[@zqxzqxzqx1]

Therefore god! XD XD XD (j/k)

[@johns1625]

Proof the caller was a pro-vax time traveler trying to trick me into getting the chip/jab/mark of the beast!! 😂

[@aikhis]

if dreams work that way, myself and the female cast of Baywatch had a very close relationship during my adolescence in the 90's

[@r.scottmacleod4564]

rofl...and I'm in pretty good health considering how many big buildings I've fallen off of in a dream!

[@aikhis]

@Sean Pittaway what!! they cheated on me! Just crushed lol

[@aikhis]

@Sean Pittaway you were dreaming, everyone knows it was Mark Day from happy mondays at the party on the bottom of the sea

[@Puchuchi747]

Pamela Anderson, in her good days!

[@wolf1066]

@doug nut I once had a dream in which I was in a house with all the actors who ever played "the Doctor" in _Doctor Who_ - except they weren't just actors, they somehow _actually were different incarnations of the same Time Lord_ as well (it got complicated). I was the most recent of them and simultaneously feeling awesome that I'd been chosen to play the part and also remembering having _been_ the others. There were like 20 or more versions of the Doctor there - the house was so full we were having to sleep on the floor - I dunno who most of them were supposed to be but the first 5, from Hartnell to Davison, were quite recognisable (this was before the _Colin Baker_ era, let alone "New Who"). Since the first five actors in my dream are *consistent with* the first five who actually starred in the show, that must mean it's real, right? According to Torrey, anyway.

[@SapienSafari]

Matt asked him how he knew God was in his dreams and he deflected to evolution. Why do people always do this?

[@hedgie9823]

Well they can't disprove a point, so move onto the next one, there not testing these they can make hundreds of these

[@jasoness]

They have evolved that way...

[@derekmizer6293]

It's what they do, avoid questions that are uncomfortable and move the goal post.

[@JFrazer4303]

They cannot admit that their conclusions about their religious belief have been publicly trashed, proven to be shoddy wishful thinking. I wish Matt would jump on this right away, because it happens all the time.

[@tovae793]

I’d like to call it ”grasping at strawman”

[@drshellkinggmailcom]

It never ceases to amaze me what convince people why their gods are real.

[@bleirdo_dude]

The Holy Dopamine Ghost is one hell of a drug.

[@survivor45661]

It's no the way it works, they assume their god is real and then they look for anything to further confirm their belief, it's called confirmation bias. It's like when someone thinks their house is haunted and any noise that happen in the house confirms to them that the house is haunted even thought there could be dozens of different explanations for those noises. I hate ignorance. Sometimes the people who know the least are the one talking the most.

[@C6723]

And they can’t get out of it because they think that if they doubt and ask questions they will be tortured for eternity

[@derekmizer6293]

Indoctrination destroys critical thinking.

[@baileetrinidad6803]

I dreamt that Robin Williams was God and he told me that the key to salvation was to do cocaine. I'm thinking about starting a religion on this.

[@DenyThisFlesh]

Sounds way more fun than any of the other religions I know about. Lol

[@magnetiktrax]

When every friday is Good Friday 🤣

[@poosspooss]

i dreamt of jesus talking with a woman, what does that mean ?

[@magnetiktrax]

@@poosspooss it means you had a dream. What kind of answer were you expecting?

[@poosspooss]

VodkaHindJelly i just want an explanation and analysation of my dream

[@misterinadequate3518]

God is Love. Love is blind. Ray Charles is blind. Ray Charles is God. Written on a chalk board back when I was in High School. Pretty much how Theist logic runs, in my opinion.

[@hopelessnerd6677]

That's the answer! It's NOT 42, as I was led to believe!

[@rick420buzz]

All this time, I was led to believe that ERIC CLAPTON is God.

[@kathyheitchue6069]

You are So right👍

[@jensrogerkristoffersen5472]

That's the exact same model of argument from ignorance that Holberg uses in Erasmus Montanus, where the "educated" Rasmus convinces his peasant mother she is a rock.

[@Fairygroveyt]

@@hopelessnerd6677 How DARE YOU! The answer is always, ALWAYS, 42.

[@LastBastian]

Haven't watched the whole video yet, but the title... I literally just spoke to a theist on another channel who told me he *knows* god is real, because when he was a child he dreamed someone said his name, and when he woke there was nobody there. ...This was solid personal proof to him. I kid you not.

[@Gumpmachine1]

Bastian yup doesn’t surprise me, I’ve heard similar

[@deimoskaischylos]

My father uses a dream as part of his proof as well, saying that he was "shown the full scope of the universe; different planets, et cetera" by some "being." Important to note: the man absolutely loves science fiction. Has a huge Perry Rhodan collection. He's never made the connection.

[@seanbirch9663]

@Matt Smith haha. funny joke.

[@derekmizer6293]

Theists do not know what constitutes good evidence when it comes to their particular god. But when presented with the SAME evidence for another god, they will reject said evidence. Pure madness.

[@maddyboombaddybaddy6532]

It's always when people are sleeping and dreaming they get their proof. Smh...

[@CornholioDK]

This show is like a professor arguing with a 5 year old ^^ love it

[@3_Degrees]

I am a nurse practitioner with a heavy interest in vaccines . They are not risk free (like everything in medicine) but the benefits far outweigh the risks . The science is overwhelming .

[@landonschertz2325]

07 335i They are basically risk free if you aren’t part of the extremely small population that is allergic to an ingredient or are immunocompromised

[@aneeshramaswamy6283]

First off, I want to state that I have no opposition to the practice of vaccines and agree with your position completely, but I do feel the general public kind of dismiss the cases of adverse reactions and pass them of a necessary sacrifice for a greater cause. I certainly don’t believe that statement and think it’s at all moral to dismiss someone’ suffering inflicted by a choice usually taken on someone else’s behalf. Besides the child, I can imagine it’s especially traumatic to parents who basically are a cause for the adverse reaction. That said, I do know there is a field called vaccine adversomics which studies the cases of adverse reactions and attempts to create protocols that reduce or identify adverse reactions. I feel that’s an appropriate reaction to vaccine adversities, especially since we have a consensus (valid and sound) that vaccines need to be prescribed are that consensus is often enforced or has social costs as a penalty. I’m curious to know how you and others in the medical community think of adverse reactions and adversomics , and whether you find that the rare few patients who suffer vaccine get appropriate responses from the medical community and the public. One thing which I heavily have trouble with is that people usually assume overwhelming benefit is a reason to excuse risks. That’s no reason to stop a practice but still I believe that the answer should not just be, “The benefits outweighs the risks” but the same with an addendum of “There’s work been done to reduce the risks” Perhaps my approach may be pragmatically difficult and add costs to vaccination procedures but research into new methodologies of vaccination that give a better predictor of risk and/or reduce the intensity of adverse reactions, even for that small number of people, is heavily warranted and is a social responsibility for us who introduce a consensus, yes that provides overwhelming benefits and takes away a large number of risks factors, but still introduces a new risk factor.

[@3_Degrees]

@Grace Bressi so if you need antibiotics or an emergency appendectomy , you’ll just die instead of going to a medical clinic or a hospital ? And that’s rational to you as healthy ? That’s the great thing about America I guess .

[@3_Degrees]

@Grace Bressi why aren’t you practicing medicine ?

[@3_Degrees]

Grace Bressi I'd say it's more accurate to say you haven't earned the right to practice medicine as you haven't put in the work . And you state you think doctors lie and big pharma is bad? Then why did you go to the doctor to get antibiotics for Lyme disease ? You're a hypocrite who seems to want to have it both ways . Did they give you amoxicillin or doxycycline? Grace Bressi's statement above "ive never had lime diseases" (it is Lyme disease of course , not lime diseases ) Photo of bullseye rash on Grace Bressi's social media account with following captions: - " well its official ive been bitten by a lime tick... I went to the doctor and I'm on antibiotics " - grace bressi , may 28 , 2019 - someone replies "i hope you feel better soon" - "thank you so much was on the antibiotics cleared everything up" - grace bressi, may 28, 2019 This is per your own social media post. I guess grace bressi doesn't mind doctors or pharmaceuticals after all . 🙊😬 "i'm an honest person" - grace bressi in above statement. well this proves otherwise. if you have to lie , you know your evidence is not very good.

[@James-ye7rp]

That Flat Earth show on Netflix should have been called "Over The Edge"

[@jimmorgan21]

It was hilarious watching bewildered flatearthers discovering proof they live on a globe. 😆

[@James-ye7rp]

@@jimmorgan21 It made me very sad.

[@derekmizer6293]

What? There is a flat earth show on Netflix? I gotta watch the madness.🤣🤣🤣

[@funkmonk5921]

I got a show coming up on Netflix. It’s called . “Iam a triangle earther “ the earth is a triangle.

[@derekmizer6293]

@@funkmonk5921 I take it on faith the earth is a triangle. 🤣🤣🤣

[@vilkoskorlich259]

Starving children! Morality "Does your god see those children starving?" "Yes." "Does he have the power to feed them?" "Let me change the subject before I realize how evil my god would be if it existed." Answer this one question.. Please.. "If god exists yet he cannot protect children from being sexually abused in his own place of worship then what good is he?"

[@philojudaeusofalexandria9556]

He's great to play hide-and-seek with. Although he only hides. He is the universe's undefeated champion at hiding.

[@mikeytruthz3133]

Think of it this way. He has given you life, he feeds you, he gives you drink, God is good!

[@katyungodly]

@@mikeytruthz3133 God doesn't feed kids in Madagascar. How incredibly arrogant to say God feeds us all.

[@patricksaxon3983]

It is up to us to help the poor and the hungry, that is what Jesus demands.

[@ericthemovieguy]

@@mikeytruthz3133 why?

[@Fraterchaoraterchaos]

I love that Matt brought up "Behind The Curve". It was so hilarious when you actually see in the movie, one of the top Flat Earth guys say, on camera, "If this gets out, it basically disproves our whole theory" not realizing he's on tape...

[@PahubianInfluence666]

So cancer in children is God's work? Because he loves them?? Gtfo.

[@mrmanlet7385]

@Sgloobal Prove that Adam and Eve even existed. There is no evidence. There is no evidence that the Garden of Eden even existed either.

[@neuroses3573]

Sgloobal that’s called an argument from ignorance my friend

[@mrmanlet7385]

@Sgloobal Is there evidence that the archaeology proves a God? I could say the Dead Sea Scrolls prove that the Bible is the infallible Word of God, but stories get passed down through many generations. Humans are very good at inventing gods across history. What makes yours any different?

[@serg10x]

@Sgloobal What is the archeological evidence that Adam and Eve were real people? I always find it curious that Adam and Eve had offsprings and they go to find wives at far away lands... like.. where did those people they married come from?

[@sheezamann2724]

@Sgloobal IF YOU know or believe people can lie....THEN HOW can you believe a book written 2000 years ago....you have NEVER met those people...…?...………...or have you?

[@charlesdahmital8095]

I dreamed of Jesus, so he is real. Well, that was good enough for Paul.

[@Ometecuhtli]

I dreamed I was married to Jennifer Lawrence (said the stalker).

[@bennylane9701]

Yea, but Ringo required evidence.

[@zachforbes-restifo4786]

I dreamed I killed god, everyone has to be an atheist now

[@kathyheitchue6069]

Schroooms?

[@kathyheitchue6069]

@@karlrschneider As I stated prior in regards to Saul/Paul,,,,,,SCHROOMS

[@Thomas.Pferns]

"Because I know". Sums up all arguments by theists.

[@temporarilyimmortal795]

This aged well. Loved Matt telling him to get vaxxed.

[@min24434]

He's a prophet

[@atheistsfightclub6684]

Dreaming that the thing you want to be true is true only proves your desire to be right, not that you are.

[@kauriwilson8434]

It makes sense

[@heavymeddle28]

I dream about all kinds of crazy shit... Doesn't make em real

[@pollypockets508]

It would be nice though. I dreamed that I was wealthy a few times. Lol

[@heavymeddle28]

@@pollypockets508 😀I'm trying to be not not nice... It doesn't not not make me a bad guy. You sounds like a not not not crazy person... I'm trying to be as clear as I can☺

[@stevencurtis7157]

We live in a world where dreams have to be explicitly dismissed as evidence. Fuck.

[@j.oaklley8965]

Jesus is real and the Bible is Gods word.

[@arrivagabry]

dreams are always crazy they are fantasy

[@susanthern]

Thank you, Matt for discussing the need to vaccinate! I’m a pediatric nurse and have given thousands of vaccines in my career. Vaccines work. I urge everyone who can to get vaccinated, it may save your life or the life of someone else.

[@texassunflower]

What's in the vaccinations?

[@gregmcfarland9376]

@@texassunflower i suggest doing research on how vaccination works. That phone in your hand gives you access to a vast body of knowledge, such that there exists no reason whatsoever you should ask this question.

[@texassunflower]

@@gregmcfarland9376 I've read it and I'm concerned. Not only have I read it when you ask the doctors to explain the ingredients they can't either.

[@gregmcfarland9376]

I often wonder why people with a smart phone can not answer questions to their own satisfaction by simply researching the subject. Intellectual laziness i suppose, or perhaps a lack of knowledge on how to go about it?

[@texassunflower]

@@gregmcfarland9376 most of the time when people ask questions they already have the answer they just want to see if you do

[@JohnMorris-ge6hq]

When you sleep you go into REM sleep (rapid eye movement sleep). In REM sleep we dream. You only remember 1% of your dreams. Your brain needs to dream to repair itself. Dreams are not magical. Correction: We dream just before REM sleep in Stage 3. But Stage 4 (REM sleep) is the most important sleep. Without REM we don't function right. Correction: Not repair but rather nightly maintenance.

[@cainthebastard7053]

Dreams actually start in stage 3 right before REM.

[@PhazterMaze]

Do you mean thay dreaming physically repairs the brain? Because that's not true. REM sleep is the only time when our brain is completely devoid of the anxiety-triggering molecule noradrenaline. At the same time, key emotional and memory-related structures of the brain are reactivated during REM sleep as we dream. This means that emotional memory reactivation is occurring in a brain free of a key stress chemical, which allows us to re-process upsetting memories in a safer, calmer environment. It also makes long-term memory possible. So I'd be alright if you were to say "emotionally repair" in a sense, but that's not entirely true either. Your brain might just end up reinforcing nonbeneficial thought patterns which is damaging. Sleep gives us rest that allows the reparation of organs and muscles.

[@JohnMorris-ge6hq]

@@PhazterMaze That's not my opinion. It's the current hypothesis regarding dreams. If we don't get any REM sleep after two weeks we go insane. But I should not have said Repair. Poor analogy. Excuse me. Should have said nightly alignment and maintenance. If only my friends were this intelligent. Did you know this info already or did you check the web? Nothing wrong with checking the facts on the web. Most of my information is from memory however. For example: Western Rome finally collapsed in 476 A.D. And the Eastern Roman Empire (Byzantine Empire) was conquered by the Ottoman Turks in 1521 A.D. This is from memory. So the REM stuff is information read over the years. So I might get a few things wrong. But if I had to check the web ever time I had to speak to someone that would be stupid. But checking is the facts is the right way to go. You are right of course.

[@JohnMorris-ge6hq]

@@PhazterMaze Oh no sir not in that sense. I should of said REM sleep is necessary for your brain to function normally. More like alignment and maintenance. Forgive me for my poor analogy.

[@JohnMorris-ge6hq]

@@cainthebastard7053 Learn something new everyday. I thought REM was the dream stage. So

[@jasontv9849]

True story: I know someone who dreamed that he won the lottery but vaguely remembered the numbers. He went on to buy several thousands dollars of tickets with all possible numbers based on the numbers he could recall in his dream. What was the return for this? $20.

[@NinjaPro57]

$20 is more money than I’ve ever made in the lotto :>

[@wantwithout]

Wooooboy! We got a live one!

[@alifmuhammadchicago]

In 2021, I sure HOPE he's a live one...

[@theunreasonableman8758]

Damn!! Matt’s brain is hard wired with deductive reasoning and logic.. So smart..

[@jpapan1]

Nicely put

[@Cyba_IT]

His logic and reasoning skills and the way he can enunciate them is certainly impressive. Sometimes I think those skills are being wasted on talking to ignorant and misguided theists but then I realise that KZbin is an international and widely available platform and the AXA crew are actually teaching a global audience how to use logic and reason to hopefully better humanity.

[@johndelong5574]

For even satan is transformed into an angel of light.

[@johndelong5574]

@Exoplanet searcher 222 not smart enough to escape the lake of fire

[@Bakamatsu-GojiFanArchive]

@@johndelong5574 shut up

[@krisaaron5771]

As a little kid I was complaining about having to get “shots” and my mother told me about her mother's best friend. They were in their 20s, and diphtheria spread through their small Midwest town. Granny kept her kids safe at home, but her friend watched her three babies (all under age 5) die within one week. A month later, she threw herself off a railroad bridge and was crushed by a locomotive. As much as I loathed needles, I never complained about vaccinations again. Very few people can remember those days, but any 100-yr-old cemetery will have several tiny headstones with dates very close together. That's what childhood diseases do, and there were once millions of parents who would give their own lives for vaccines that might save their kids.

[@CanadianGuitarist]

If a dream is proof something is real, Rihanna should be accepting my hand in marriage any time now...

[@rick420buzz]

My gay threesome with Leonard Wolowitz and Sheldon Cooper is going to come true? AWESOME!

[@alanthomson1227]

@@rick420buzz Raj would be devastated .

[@jkryanspark]

To a young child, his or her parents are god-like. When parents lie to a child for whatever reason; be it expediency, to shield them from painful or difficult truths, or because of their own ignorance, it can become the foundation for the child to grow into a conspiracy theory believer. For if the child can be deceived by those who are supposed to love them most, so too can strangers and/or the government deceive them.

[@smwalton5408]

Very good point.

[@AC-gb7do]

Jeff Karas 👍

[@bleirdo_dude]

Pass what you're smoking over here.

[@ricardovonkrypton8908]

"Mother is the word for god in the hearts and minds of all children..." - The Crow Think the quote may be older though...

[@kenchristiansen2080]

God loves every body. Yet God is willing to let people be tortured for eternity. I don't love every body. I wouldn't let anyone be tortured forever. Who is more loving? Me, who would not even let Hitler be tortured forever, (I would allow him to be punished but eternal punishment makes less sense than God) or God, some thing that requires being tortured for arbitrary reasons? Also, I dreamed of being pregnant and having a baby. Is that possible? I wish, but God didn't "give" me the right anatomy.

[@theultimatereductionist7592]

Perfectly stated!

[@arrivagabry]

I love my dogs even when they pee on my floor I get upset but I don't set them on fire, I would not even think of dangling a piece of meat in front of them and expect them not to try to eat it, and if they do I punish them, so I love my dogs more then any god loves humans.

[@LuminesBreezer--]

If God is something, disorders wouldn't be a topic; let alone the primary questions. And for 14-15 years I believe he said, that no one's given him signs of proof that God is of truth should be answers to many that it's about time quite a few doors on churches went ahead and closed. Seriously.

[@庫倫亞利克]

I have hated some people with passion (most of which are either jingoist supremacists who never shy at voicing their desire for me and my kind to die simply for being guilty of existing and "standing in their way," or theist nuts who try to scare me with hell), and I would hesitate even to give someone, ANYONE, a gruesome death by fire, let alone burning them for hundreds of years. But hundreds of years isn't even a sliver of eternity. I believe this alone makes me infinitely morally superior to the Christian god and his wretched followers.

[@Stephen-ln2jl]

but we could torture hitler for a little bit right?

[@capulusnigrum6202]

This was an amazing call! Good job Matt and Don

[@ChannelMath]

Dreams aren't the worst type of evidence. The worst is seen almost every day on this show: "I just thought of something (that would confirm what I already believe), therefore it's true"

[@Fraterchaoraterchaos]

"why won't you get vaccinated?" "well, I'm a bit of a conspiracy theorist" Now do you understand why he doesn't understand falsifiability and evolution Matt?

[@rekunta]

“Well, I was indoctrinated with that, quite honestly” That’s something you don’t hear a theist say everyday, I think Matt was taken a bit off guard.

[@someonezmom]

off topic...Matt and his weight loss is inspiring...heathens can improve lol

[@j.oaklley8965]

Jesus is inspiring Matt is a lier!!!

[@someonezmom]

@@j.oaklley8965 it's _liar_ doofus

[@bfont]

I vote Matt to be Kratos in a God of War movie. Hands down.

[@babelKONI]

Jesus Christ you're right

[@pastycayk1998]

Kinda enjoyed his chunckyness though,

[@lukasanthony2752]

As much as this guy is being irrational, it’s a breath of fresh air to hear a caller allowing Matt to speak and saying “go ahead.” Shows the guy wants to engage in a real discussion, at least.

[@glorywr]

The argument that I often use is "let's say vaccines do cause Autism, they don't but let's say they do, since when is Autism worse than a slow and painful death from a preventable illness?"

[@barbaraannen8126]

Holy shit, I've been converted... ...No wait, I was dreaming

[@jonerickson2358]

"I dreamed of Jesus with the light brown hair!" That was an old Stephen Foster song!!!

[@alifmuhammadchicago]

nooice

[@tedgrant2]

Showing that I have no shoes on my feet does not prove I've got a hat on my head.

[@almightybunny3320]

Was it a wet dream?

[@billasswhole9995]

Jesus probably cum into him.

[@gainer83]

@@billasswhole9995 Jesus cum alot, 6 billion of them

[@cainthebastard7053]

Wet nightmare if it was the second *coming*. Pun intended.

[@TranTran-ex8bm]

Almighty Bunny lol

[@brianwright1901]

He was playing volleyball with oiled up Jesus, like top gun.

[@Titantr0n]

5:09 This old clip just popped up but man, Don's bursts into laughter make my day every time.

[@chriscosby2459]

Me too, Don just can't contain himself. 😆

[@SapienSafari]

I was laughing so hard at this I had to finish watching it after I got off the treadmill.

[@snaz27]

I had a dream that Torrey didn't have a dream about Jesus, so he's definitely lying...

[@patricknicholson4354]

“You seem to want us to lower our standards. Nope.” lol

[@semocatfish8984]

I dreamed I was eating a big marshmallow, and woke up and my pillow was gone. Grrrrr

[@doneestoner9945]

Now that's funny !

[@PhilipLeitch]

I'm listening to this at Easter, the spring pagan festival of spring for the goddess Oestra. Why are people talking about zombies during this holy time?

[@Clearbrite]

Except it's autumn here in Australia and also easter..so backwards and not spring lol no one has any idea what's going on lol

[@PhilipLeitch]

@@Clearbrite ha! I'm Aussie too.

[@Alakaizer]

Apparently Jesus was a lich, not a zombie.

[@Lupinemancer87]

You can basically hear the guy on the phone say, "Those were some pretty big words," throughout the entire video.

[@ez-8238]

I dreamed of jesus so he is real! I dreamed i took a bite out of the moon. it was the best Cheddar i ever tasted. So the moon is made of cheese?

[@jaimienelson3649]

Pepper Jack. Yes.

[@MovieMakingMan]

If Jesus returned he would immediately go into therapy for PTSD from seeing all the crosses that killed him.

[@neuroses3573]

I’ve dreamed about not dying alone. That doesn’t mean anything

[@BlahBlooBlee4205]

:[

[@tedgrant2]

The most important idea in Christianity is that Jesus died to save us from our sins. It's also the most nonsensical idea.

[@ihatekpoop6229]

Nope Jesus died because of him being arrogant he claims he's the son of god

[@tedgrant2]

@@ihatekpoop6229 Jesus was killed because he was a very naughty boy.

[@Make_Boxing_Great_Again]

Being against vaccinations is like being against ambulances because sometimes they crash.

[@happyapostate8383]

Matt has taught me more about the nature of science than my college professors. Plus I have discovered another marvelous field: LOGIC!

[@Phoenix-King-ozai]

The real and only reason people believe in a God is because they want to And I speak from past experience

[@johniec5282]

They don't want to. They either are convinced or indoctrinated. Believes are not choices per se.

[@cinnasharon980]

I was indoctrinated. I'm still dealing with it. Its brainwashing pure and simple

[@Phoenix-King-ozai]

@@johniec5282 continuing to believe something without evidence and actively ignoring evidence to the contrary to avoid cognitive dissonance is a choice If you're uncritical, You believe what you want to Doesn't mean you choose what you want

[@Phoenix-King-ozai]

@@cinnasharon980 it is

[@johniec5282]

@@Phoenix-King-ozai. Choice? No. You are either convinced or not for good or bad reasons. I dare you to choose to believe you could fly while jumping from a 10 story building.

[@TmRnBn]

No amount of experimentation can ever prove me right; a single experiment can prove me wrong. ATTRIBUTED to Albert Einstein

[@hennyb6979]

I experienced just one of the outcomes of antivaxing last year when I caught whooping cough. It was bad enough going through it myself, but when I imagined what it must be like for a child's little body to be put through that ... made me want to grab hold of these people and scream at them.

[@jlmcvay1971]

Oof, that sucks. Sorry you had to experience that. It is not fair that other people's ignorance (some of it willful) caused you harm.

[@JimShadyUK]

I had whooping cough as a small child and it was hands down the most terrifying illness I've ever experienced. When you know you're about to start coughing and there's nothing you or anyone else can do to stop it, it's the scariest thing ever. I've had illnesses where I've felt worse and been in much greater danger, but nothing that compared with the fear of whooping cough.

[@AussieGoblin618]

My mum was a nurse and she said caring for babies with whooping cough was horrible, their poor little bodies can't take in enough oxygen and it can kill them

[@lorenzolucifuge1653]

Yeah ok,go get your 4th and 5th boosters for and your kids and we'll see how that works out for you.

[@rogerkreil3314]

Dreams are just your brain reflecting on your experiences, fears, and hopes. And also what happened that day.

[@hibentley]

We all thought the Christian caller was actually thinking and considering the question but nope.... he was accidentally on hold.

[@dankrauz1036]

I love Matt in an intellectual way. The Man shines in a debate.

[@ImGoingSupersonic]

Idk how people can believe one thing calling in, and after having this convo STILL nothing has changed. Its almost like people will go to the ends of the earth to not end up being wrong, if only that.

[@bleirdo_dude]

It's a thought addiction via the Holy Dopamine Ghost (Dopamine Reward System).

[@jeremybr2020]

4:06 The Dillahunty logic bomb was just thoroughly detonated in this mans brain. lol

[@carlwinslo]

I Dream of Jesus sounds like a spinoff show of I dream of Jeannie.

[@brucebaker810]

Col. Nelson was a Mastronaut.

[@fitzmullin6665]

I had a dream the other day that someone put a massive scratch on my car, with colour and depth. When I woke up, I thought it was real and had to run down to my car to check. Having looked round my car for the deep scratch for 10 minutes, I had to conclude that it was only a dream. It was so real, and I was convinced that it was. Luckily my car was real and I could check it in the real world.

[@Dragonblaster1]

I had a dream last night is that I was leading my band on stage at Wembley Arena. Can't seem to find the footage on KZbin for some reason...

[@Fletchlie]

I had a dream that I was eating a giant marshmallow and when I woke up my pillow had gone.

[@Beery1962]

"God is real because the Bible says he is, and I had a dream with God in it. Checkmate atheists!"

[@tieshianna8833]

"Are you get vaccinated?" "No." ... I am not surprised

[@Spinspiel]

Watching this in July 2021 during "Covid" - how prescient Matt & Don are.

[@alifmuhammadchicago]

For real

[@kenbob1071]

I at first thought this was taped after the Covid vaccine came out. Shocked to see that it was BEFORE Covid. They are spot on! Amazing too that vaccine conspiracy theories were floating out there well before Covid.

[@dukeemzworth3005]

"I was indoctrinated" explains everything.

[@cloutfisher7714]

I'm embarrassed that this guy is from my state :(

[@ningi5102]

haha i feel you

[@oldtimer5111]

Don't be ,everywhere has them.

[@tedgrant2]

My toaster isn't working. I initially believed the fuse was faulty. I've checked the fuse and it's ok. So having proved my theory was false, there is only one other possibility. There is an unclean spirit in the toaster and nobody can prove otherwise.

[@boeingman777]

Poor fella..... he tried..... Got to hand it to Matt.... Did well exercising his patience and courtesy.

[@j.oaklley8965]

Jesus is all that matters, Matts and atheists.opnions are pathetic.

[@cannotwaittoseedavanteadam4301]

@@j.oaklley8965 Sounds like you're projecting.

[@j.oaklley8965]

JESUS is YOUR GOD like it or not!!!!

[@cannotwaittoseedavanteadam4301]

@@j.oaklley8965 Thing is that I live in reality. Your imaginary friend means nothing to me.

[@j.oaklley8965]

You risk going to hell over the OPNION of EVOLUTION!!!!

[@jonathanconnor7920]

Don's laugh sounds like it's in the evolutionary process of becoming Seth Rogan's laugh.

[@SapienSafari]

How does Torrey function in real life?

[@JamesRichardWiley]

Some mental hospitals allow their residents to have cell phones.

[@topcat2069]

"we might as well be honest" ? "The masses have never thirsted after truth. They turn aside from evidence that is not to their taste ... Whoever can supply them with illusions is easily their master; whoever attempts to destroy their illusions is always their victim." - Gustav Le Bon, The Crowd: A Study of the Popular Mind, 1895

[@jerico641]

I dreamed last night that it was 1982, and I was watching Kirstie Alley and Rosanna Arquette make passionate love to each other. Later that night, I had another dream where the two of them let me in on the festivities. No matter how badly (and I can't possibly describe how badly) I wanted that second one to be true, it wasn't.

[@AC-gb7do]

jerico641 I think anyone from around that time had a dream like that, or similar..Kirstie Alley and Samantha Fox were my go-to dream girls!

[@colinbaker3916]

A C I imagine that male fans of Cheers might have dreamed of having fun with Kirsty Alley and Shelley Long.

[@deathwrenchcustom]

Kirstie Alley?? Gross, dude!! Lol... I'd sooner bang Mrs. Garrett!! Lol

[@jerico641]

@@deathwrenchcustom Did you read the part about it being 1982 in my dream? Take another look at Kirstie Alley in 1982 and get back to me again. Just out of curiosity, I have to assume you agree with me at least on Rosanna Arquette??

[@bw4512]

Matt's mini manifesto in the last few minutes of this episode shows that he has more faith than his callers do.

[@MrAntoni70]

Matt .. the quote was attributed to J.B.S Haldane for the record. You are still brilliant though .

[@silkiesmoove6268]

Good call

[@gou0630]

I dreamed I could fly, then I jumped from the roof of my house and did not work, I demand compensation!!!

[@impossiblevisits]

Criterion is the singular. Criteria is the plural.

[@TheNomad94]

same with phenomenon and phenomena. I hate hearing it switched around.

[@impossiblevisits]

@@TheNomad94 Me too! These words are so elementary, someone as smart as Matt shouldn't mistake them.

[@CsykKrit]

It's the worse when people mix up words, like don't they even listen to here it's incorrect?

[@CsykKrit]

@deadend r/woooosh

[@zgs12212012]

CsykKrit Made me laugh. Thanks.

[@spencerkimble3824]

The funniest part of behind the curve is how good the experiments those guys develop to disprove a globe and how they get confused when they confirm a globe

[@EmersumBiggins]

“Interesting” 😂 “A 15 degree per hour drift”😂

[@inquisitivedawn]

My MIL told my husband that she's going to pray to jesus to come to him in a dream to prove he's real......

[@AC-gb7do]

Temporal Kitty I’m sure it’ll work, cause dreams are totally real, not like they are a natural part of being human. 🤨

[@pansepot1490]

Temporal Kitty, tell her to pray to Jesus to come down in person for all of us atheists to see. Then ask her if she thinks prayers work...

[@inquisitivedawn]

@@AC-gb7do Highly reasonable to believe dreams (sarcasm) lol

[@inquisitivedawn]

@@pansepot1490 She says the typical christian stuff. "God will reveal himself to those who truly believe" and as for the prayer, well it only works if god wants it to lol

[@robsaxepga]

Man, the question Matt asks at about 4:55 is freaking awesome. I'm not going to forget that one. Thanks Matt!

[@erin0033]

It seems that creationists think evolution and atheism are one and the same. And also that evolution has something to do with the origin of the universe according to atheists. They definitely don't do their research.

[@庫倫亞利克]

Blame Kent Hovind. In his dissertation (lol) not only is atheism and evolution one and the same, but so is Taoism, communism, Hinduism and Islam. Basically, anything that doesn't fit in their fan club (and thus hellbound) are a homogeneous lump to them.

[@morpheas768]

Don has the most awesome smile of the entire host crew.

[@benjaminschooley3108]

The quote about rabbits in the precambrian was from JBS Haldane.

[@jpapan1]

Loved this whole thing. I liked when callers push or put forth good OR bad arguments. Almost every time, the response or reply results in a better explanation or clearer quote etc. There's gold buried in the replies to bad arguments , and the only way those nuggets come out is by callers asking or stating certain things that require a reaponse.

[@WunHungLo99]

Theists have dreams they interpret as from God. I'd like to hear from theists who believes in Allah say they had a dream from the Judeo god or buddah or vice versa

[@naughtyue7284]

suzette9999 this is my favorite comment

[@mapleapple6891]

Dreams are just some form of entertainment in our sleep. Don't take it seriously.

[@arrivagabry]

I really dreamt that I was pregnant and was in labor and delivered a puppy, so that must be real, I have these crazy dreams all the time.

[@cinnasharon980]

That's a good dream That's entertainment!!

[@AngryBilleh]

I dreamed of Jesus too before I became an atheist, you can dream about anything, doesn't mean it's true

[@cnault3244]

"I dreamed of Jesus so he is real! | Torrey " Hey Torrey I dreamed you sent me $10,000. Where's my money?

[@russbroda2535]

More dangerous with this guy Torrey not being vaccinated is that one day he may talk to a child and share his ideas of how life works.

[@irishjj3623]

Torrey, can you discribe your vision of God to us please. Was he short fat blonde and blue eyed or was he tall and dark? And if you are correct then everybody would see him the same, would they not? But considering that God is created by man and therefore a figure of our own imagination he can be what ever you want 🤔

[@Asa...S]

I think it would be really interesting to take all the people who claims to have seen Jesus/God to those sketch artists the police use to make those facial composites of suspects.

[@Xentrick]

I really enjoyed this discussion. Matt was calm and challenged the collars reasoning without being super aggressive or cursing. I feel like my blood pressure dropped 10 points. Thanks Matt for the great discussion