I Drive The Nissan Ariya For The First Time! This Is Where It Shines

[@KyleConner]

The driving is where this car truly shines! The rest of the reviews, may not be so positive, but time will tell. Also, please keep in mind this is my very first experience in the car - I shoot these videos to bring you along for my initial impressions - more detailed videos to come with all of the nerdy info you’re looking for soon. ⚡️

[@paulmusat9711]

Kyle, keep in mind that in the Europe we have 22 kw AC charging 😁

[@justinbyers7472]

Just for a quick heads up. The lane change system only works on Pro-pilot 2.0 mapped roads, so while the car is in "Blue" mode which is hands on it will execute auto lane changes with the lane button, or you use the turn signal to do a lane change. The 19 inch wheels ride a lot quieter than the 20s. The charge curve is super flat and will out charge an ID4 on Bjorn Nylands charging tests. Also the motor Torque Vectors along with the brakes The E-Step system is definitely a small annoyance due to no true 1 pedal driving but the vehicle does have OTA firmware updates available so maybe they will update it in as a selectable setting.

[@doberbert]

If it is the first experience and not knowing the features and 10-80% charge speed, then why so negative ?

[@sajiantony7473]

Finally I received my e-4orce platinum 2 weeks ago. I don't drive faster than 65mph. I am getting 320 miles on full charge. Extremely happy. Wonderful job Nissan.

[@kellyducheneaux9760]

where do you live?

[@kellyducheneaux9760]

I'm buying one at the end of year, platinum trim

[@sajiantony7473]

@@kellyducheneaux9760 Earlier I was in NJ and the car was new. Times have changed. These days I live in CA and I am not able to claim that kind of miles due to the mountains around here and higher highway speeds, but still getting in the range of 270-290 when driven correctly. I also drove from NJ to CA in the last summer and I achieved an average of 3.4miles/kw (from the trip computer) while driving at a much higher speed on many occasion (70-80mph sometimes) and the hot weather with A/C running. That also shows car might have about 295.8 miles on full charge. However after one year of use, I am not sure I still have the 87kw SOH.

[@WilliamBunch-z9s]

Okay, the Ariya is a different beast. I have the Engage, and it's really quirky with e-step. The faster you remove your foot, the faster it gives you more regens. It clearly is not a Lucid Air or Tesla Plaid. It is just not built for that. It is designed for staying in a large city. It is designed to get you from point A to point B in a fun, sporty way. In the Eco mode, it can extend range by 100 miles. I can charge mine from 10% to 100% in 35 minutes. You can go ahead and charge it at home in about 5 hrs to prepare it for the morning. My car was 44k, and the Tesla Y, which had similar options, was 65K. Also, it will auto-change lanes in certain trims. Now with 10 trims, lol! Now, imagine what that beast will do when Nissan comes out with the performance model with a projected 200kWh battery and a 350kWh charging system. Nissan is smart. They have had the Leaf for years. Nissan moves slowly and methodically. Nissan has basically given up on super-fast hot rods. If you go 0-60 in 2 seconds, you can get a ticket for laying drag in my town. If you want more backseat room and headspace, get the Enguage, not the platinum, because of the roof, it takes up 3 inches. Also, the front-wheel drive has a bigger truck space.

[@kqschwarz]

GREAT to see Alyssa again. We have all missed her and hope to see more of her in the future.

[@geft]

I ended up buying an Ariya to replace my 2019 Model 3 and I really like it a lot. I don't disagree with your criticisms of where the Ariya falls short at least from a specs perspective. However, since I exclusively commute in my car and we drive my wife's 3-row SUV on trips, these down sides don't really figure in for me. The Ariya makes for a much more relaxing commute than my old Model 3, which accounts for most of my drive time. Plus, I got a $3750 rebate for financing through Nissan with a 2.99% APR for 36 months which is quite good these days. So that helped negate some of the cost concerns. For me it gives me 90% of the luxury experience with none of the excess baggage that a luxury marque brings with it.

[@Pampalak]

Nice to see Alyssa again!

[@kalebjaxkarson]

I just test drove this car some days ago on the interstate out in San Bernadino, California and it was by far the best experience I've head against the EV6 and the Model Y. The heads-up display showing things like the speed on the windsheld during nights makes for a very futuristic sense of vision!

[@thedatroxde]

Interesting, do you know what the efficiency was?

[@sr-gi3cr]

Hi Alyssa!

[@carsonassociates3263]

Max charging rate of 130kW is only part of the story: Bjorn found that the 87kWh Ariya was still pulling 81kW at 80% SOC! Ariya’s flat charging curve (like E-tron’s) makes it a potentially better road-tripper than the modest max charge rate would suggest.

[@febrianadji5758]

I believe it's at 85% SoC But still tho Model Y for similar price giving faster charging speed even without using supercharger site

[@Tinrs80]

i saw that review on that channel and agree

[@marketbuy]

The ride quality is far superior than the MY. It’s very quiet and plush. I don’t care too much about charging speed. I own an Evolve + trim. I had given friends who own Model Y Performance a chance to test drive my Evolve+, and they all said the Ariya drives nicer (Lexus quality).

[@scottmanthey3549]

@@marketbuy I would agree.

[@randynorris9467]

Everyone must consider that this particular review is for the top tier Platinum + AWD trim. The Platinum + Ariya feature for feature considerably overmatches the Tesla M Y long range or VW ID.4 Pro trims. A better example of an Ariya AWD trim is to compare an Evolve + AWD trim to the MY long range and I’d.4 Pro S plus. (The driving dynamics less pro pilot 2.0 would be identical). Last I checked the current price of a well equipped MY long range that wasn’t white is in the $55K range and VW ID.4 Pro plus with the large battery is priced around $55K as well. That said you can currently buy an Ariya AWD Evolve + for $56K and it offers a sunroof that actually opens, HUD, a surround view positioning camera, 4 wheel disk brakes, and a Heat Pump that the ID.4 AWD doesn’t offer. The only real disadvantage the Ariya has in the US right now when comparing price in this segment is that it no longer qualifies for a federal tax credit due to recent legislation. But as stated in this video a lease option may possibly be a way to address that issue.

[@andyhung424able]

I'm an owner of an Ariya FWD Premier since December 2022. I love the car, but I am not going defend it from what Kyle said about it. It is a good car, a competitive one, but nothing about it really stands out. The range is good, the efficiency is average, the charging capability is average, tech and safety features are on par with competitors, and it is in the same price range among the Mach E, Ioniq 5, EV6, ID.4 and Model Y. IMO, it is a good car and totally should be on anyone's shopping list for a cross-over EV. But I think the knock on the Ariya is that Nissan took 10 years to come up with a follow-on to the Leaf and they didn't come up with something that beats all competitors out of the water. I guess we wanted/expected Extraordinary, but we got a Good.

[@TeddyBearGaming999]

The top spec at $60k+ definitely is a hard sell for this car, but the mid tier ones around $45-55K compete quite well with ID4, Q4, and the Hyundai/Kia stuff

[@bigd7386]

I’m a bit shocked on how harsh you all were on the interior and seems to be an overall lack of objectivity... because Nissan. All major touch points are soft touch materials, and in the top trim you get nappa leather and suede matrials, even suede on the pillars between the doors. I watched the review on the detail channel and was confused at the things that were called cheap. All the other reviews I've watched mention that the cabin is actually a highlight of Ariya and reads more premium than the competition. Overall the Ariya in a solid effort that has been marred by a botched launch that for the most part Nissan didn't have control over. I'm sure there were a few "damn can we catch a break" moments between the pandemic and shutdowns to the semiconductor shortage... THEN the tax credit getting pulled when they were finally able to get it to market. Everyone is complianing about the charge numbers when 85% of the time people are driving around town and in most cases you'll have a charger at home and charge over night. I also thought the numbers sucked, but recently saw a video of someone with a plug-in hybrid that had ~40 miles of range and the gas engine hadn't come on for an entire week with simply pluging it in at night. Even if you have a daily commute of 50-60 miles, with a big battery pack EV you wouldn't even need to plug in every night. Charge speeds are kinda like the new 0-60... its important but not as many make it out to be. It only becomes a problem when doing long roadtrips and thats a low point for EVs in general. 350W charging speed means nothing if you never see it and with such a crappy charging infrastructure overall. I'd take a solid charging curve that prioritizes battery longevity than outright speed.

[@pzokz]

I agree. I have an Ariya Evolve+ (a middle-range trim) and I love the interior. It seemed to us at least as nice as the ID.4's, much roomier, and much nicer than Kia, Hyundai, Toyota, and Tesla.

[@pzokz]

They spoke too soon. In fact . . . they should really post a comment or revision, as their own test of the charging vindicated Ariya for its charge time because of its flat charging curve! See kzbin.info/www/bejne/p2qkc6pod8mWl7c

[@blackwhirlwind1245]

I agree, fast charging is rarely a consideration for me to get an EV, like you said, most people just charge at home at night, and so am I if I do get one, if you doing long road trips very often, then this is simply not for you, but for those who just driving around town and city, the range is well enough, also, if you have a wife/husband, you can have an EV plus a ga car/hybrid for road trips, so you can see the fast charging really doesn’t matter at all. As for the materials, this is far better than Tesla Mode Y, it has all the soft touch materials and interior feels more premium than minimalist model Y. The only downside is that it’s kinda expensive, if Nissan can do few thousand dollars off,(for example $7500 because it’s the tax credit amount), then it’s pretty good buy.

[@bigd7386]

@@blackwhirlwind1245 Well the price has dropped considerably since this was posted. But yes I agree with your sentiments.

[@blackwhirlwind1245]

@@bigd7386 yeah, I heard that it gets up to $6000 price reduction for 2024 model year, Platinum + e4ORCE is the one that gets $6000 off. I believe other trim levels also get few thousands dollars off.

[@ben_gurin]

I got the Ariya engage plus e4orce , had it for like 3 weeks and put almost 2,000 miles on it, got 16500 in government rebates for a 36 month lease, 0 down at 322 a month, the charging curve is far better than most, I think people underestimate the car

[@ben_gurin]

Done a couple road trips , it’s been great

[@directorjustin]

I thought this was going to be an April fool's joke with Kyle taking the Ariya off road. 🤣

[@WilliamBunch-z9s]

If you look into the accessories, you can put 39" tires on the Ariya, and it has a $400.00 tent that attaches to the back.

[@Antoinemalone]

On a road trip now with mine from los angeles to Houston. Loving it. What kyle and others fail to mention about DCFC is those cars with faster ones will degrade faster. Everyone is so worried about the fastest rate until they see their car won't last as long as they thought. Nissan was smart to put it at 130 kw max.

[@joemcdonough7509]

A recent study has proven this theory to be untrue. Watch TFL's video: "You’ll Be Surprised How Long EV Batteries Last". Tesla Model 3 has shown to have only 1% of their vehicles that required battery replacements. And they charge at 250kw peak.

[@Antoinemalone]

@joemcdonough7509 that's odd my sister has a 5 year old tesla battery has degraded badly. But it's a known fact with lithium ion batteries that they degrade faster with fast charges same with phones etc. Not sure what kind of batteries tesla uses though not a tesla fan. I just know my sisters situation.

[@joemcdonough7509]

@@Antoinemalone It does happen but at an insanely low 1% rate, based on the 15,000 cars they reviewed.

[@waynerussell6401]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/n2SUqWiAjJhpZ80

[@dylanwhite6539]

I disagree on the charge speeds. If it saved money and put this closer to 35k, they could’ve used a 24a charger since you’re pretty unlikely to find or want to install a 40a home circuit for ev charging. So size it for a 30a circuit or go higher to 40a for 50a circuit. However, 60 and 80a are beyond overkill and borderline useless. 80a is the full breaker panel for some people. Sure, for suppling power there may be an argument but 80a/19.2kWh ac is pretty silly. Even a 16a 240v charger can deliver about 100 miles of range over 8 hours.

[@StubbyStan28]

I own the FWD Premiere edition & am waiting to take delivery on the Platinum+ spec. I completely disagree with Kyle's assessment of the AC charging. I've owned mine for 6 weeks and I've never had to wait for the AC charge to be completed. It was always exactly what I needed when I needed it. Personally, I think that Nissan has been ULTRA conservative with their battery management of the Ariya due to everything they've learned from the Leaf. I wouldn't be surprised if after a year Nissan ups the charging limits to 150 kW DCFC with basically the same charging curve once they're able to test how well the battery operates under load for long periods of time. I'll be very interested to see what Kyle's thoughts are on the charging after a few tests & living with it for a week.

[@wallacebell4311]

The owner’s manual is a great resource for answering questions about the functionality of the new car that you are trying to evaluate. Maybe take an hour or two and actually read some of the owner’s manual for future reference on test drives.

[@KyleConner]

It’s just my first experience with the car where I share my initial impressions. Detailed analysis comes next 😊

[@wallacebell4311]

@@KyleConner True, but you still need to understand some of the things that make the car safe like lane centering and the ability for the car to change lanes hands free.

[@aayotechnology]

@@KyleConner then you shouldn’t be so judgmental on first review.

[@jaz4280]

To be fair, most professional reviewers don't read owner manual, they simply don't have the time. Owners have more time to familiarise themselves with the details.

[@jasonburnell7324]

The best thing to do is buy this car 1 or 2 years used. low mileage ones in my area are going for 25k for the higher trims

[@msschill]

That's what I'm looking at now instead of getting a Tesla or Equinox EV paying crazy high sales tax in Colorado. $25k sale price means I pay half of the tax I was going to pay!!

[@bartwaggoner2000]

Tesla’s price cuts have really kicked this car in the testicles

[@0-Will-0]

The Teslicles!

[@bartwaggoner2000]

@@0-Will-0 LOL!

[@stevornrichards1380]

And Tesla owners in the pockets with the steep depreciation and devaluation. For every action, there's an equal and opposite reaction.

[@bwarren228]

Nissan has a history of putting a WOT restriction until 40mph on their ICE vehicles. Removing that with tuning really wakes them up. Interesting they did it on this as well.

[@TalismanPHX]

For $63k, I'd buy a Lyriq or a Model Y

[@Josh-179]

What's crazy is that you can get a Y Performance for $4K less! Nevermind if you get the tax credit too. Technologically, the Tesla is a whole generation ahead of this even though it's years older.

[@akshunz1567]

@@Josh-179 I’m curious where you think Tesla is an entire generation ahead. Examples please.

[@davidmenasco5743]

​@@akshunz1567Hmmm, a few easy ones: Efficiency, acceleration, charging speed, range, route planning, one pedal driving and storage space. I think the list goes on. Oh, and price. And superchargers.

[@Josh-179]

@@akshunz1567 , just as David said. Automakers are still coming out with EVs with half the charging speed they should in 2023. But that's just one important metric (one that makes or breaks the idea of road tripping). Tesla's competition has had years to look at Tesla's holistic approach to building an EV and have failed to get it right. I'm not a Tesla only fanboy but c'mon, you have to do what Tesla is doing to make a great EV experience.

[@kajko6868]

@@davidmenasco5743 Nothing on your list matters if the ride comfort sucks 😂

[@nevea2be]

Great to see Alyssa back in the videos and that she is still apart of the Out of Spec team. Relationships are hard enough and everything is enhanced when it’s in public under a spot light. ❤

[@andrewoneil8535]

I think it's because this was done prior to the breakup

[@jasonfournier]

She still works for them. He said in the video that he explained the new relationship.

[@nevea2be]

@@jasonfournier thanks. I didn’t catch that only about his new girl.

[@JeremyAkersInAustin]

@@jasonfournier What video was this?

[@DavidWilson-sm2ym]

Cancelling the blinker in the opposite direction is more intuitive. People who are transitioning to EVs will be far more likely to be familiar with this mode, which I’d imagine is what Nissan is going for.

[@nfc153]

I really don't like the "return to center" stalks. They save the manufacturer the cost of a couple of spring detents but they introduce another problem to be solved - how to cancel. Manually returning to center to cancel is by far the most intuitive.

[@mikeo7250]

I test drove one, and out of all the ones I have driven before I place my order, this one has changed my mind and what I really think I’m placing the order on. I was blown away

[@johnpoldo8817]

“Blown away”? With what, I see nothing positive about this EV. What are its strengths over Kia, Hyundai, and Tesla?

[@kajko6868]

@@johnpoldo8817 It always works and the ride comfort is great.

[@MissGoElectric]

Regarding the brake pedal, friction brakes are actually engaged when eStep is engaged. Both motors are externally excited synchronous motors so there are no permanent magnets. This is a significant departure from LEAF which has full ePedal. The electromagnetic consumption required to emulate PM for a complete stop could be problematic.

[@benyo4652]

I sometimes don't understand the "nerdy" tech of the reviews but after awhile I appreciate the info that you guys put out. THANKS and keep up the good work!

[@phillyphil1513]

oh I forgot to mention for those perhaps put off by the wheel covers Nissan DOES offer a lightweight dedicated 5 spoke wheel option. I believe you have to order them through Nissan Parts because I don't think you can spec them on a vehicle (or maybe you can...?) if you remove the covers "hoping to strike gold", the alloy wheels underneath have unsightly mounting holes so are NOT necessarily an improvement, unless of course you're into "unsightly".

[@djstraylight]

A hard pass on the Ariya. The Ionic 5/EV6 all wheel drive has it beat in all metrics. Loved my Leaf back in 2012-2015 but not looking to drive an dated Nissan.

[@OhGawdHesGotAGun]

Exactly. Had a Nissan 240sx back in 1989. Love it. Nissan went into the reliability toilet after that & just kind of stayed there. Nissan appealed to me because they always seemed to have more power, more of 'something' than the competition. Was on my way to buying a Sentra in 2002, then I drove one & that ended that. Then I wanted a Versa. Asked the dealership to call me when an automatic one came in. They never did. Haven't looked at Nissan since. Judging by this sad effort, I needn't check in on them anytime soon. It's such a waste - it didn't have to be this way for Nissan.

[@henrymatthews9365]

Yeah nah no need to buy anything from them till they put a proper transmission back in the maxima ,Altima , Sentra line. I worked for Nissan as a tech when they first released the Murano with the cvt transmission. I was one of the first tech to pull a new cvt under warranty at that point I knew the company was in trouble. Now that dealership started a program that if you bought a Nissan from them with a cvt transmissions and got all your services done by them the transmission will be covered under warranty for life. Lol . They went the whole Chrysler move . Unfortunately I love the look of the maxima but I will not buy any vehicle with a cvt transmission from Nissan .

[@zoner__]

@@henrymatthews9365 hard sell to buy any cvt

[@anydaynow01]

@@OhGawdHesGotAGun Yep outside of their sports car offerings Nissan has been hurting for a while now. Can't wait to get the new Z though, saving up for base model now and then give it the full SPL treatment with a Wavetrac LSD, hopefully Öhlins can modify a set of their 350Z coilovers to fit since those are amazing for the price on my G35.

[@OhGawdHesGotAGun]

@@henrymatthews9365 I'm in total agreement re: the Maxima. It was out of my budget range at the time, but I really wanted one around 2008. To this day, I think it's the best looking sedan on the market. Fast too. I had a 2002 Civic with a CVT and I was onboard with the concept. For a 118hp car, it made sense & was really smooth. Know how stupid I was in 2016? I bought a Subaru WRX Sport-Tech with CVT. It was meant to be a Toronto car so I needed an auto transmission. Shockingly, it's been reliable. The harness had to be replaced, but it's got a 10yr, 160k km warranty on the transmission so for that I respect Subaru. The paddle shifting is really good. I test drove a Golf R & its DST was even worse - so much lag! I'm a big reliability buff, Consumer Reports was my bible for years. So I knew what I was getting into with the Subaru. It's engine probs I have now (only 90k kms) & I've had it with ICE cars. I'm Canadian, but unlike many Canadians, I love the US & would be proud to live there. That said, I have too much experience, too much data to ever buy an American ICE car. I'm saving for an EV & I'm so happy that the complexities of ICE engines/drivetrains are gone, I'm hoping US car makers can bring their reliability up. If not reliability, at the very least they can do is stand by their products after the insultingly low warranty protections consumers get now. Mostly, I'm looking forward to the 500hp & instant AWD torque!

[@JohnSmith-rt5yq]

Not canceling the turn signal in the same direction you turned it on is exactly like a tesla... its a negative here, but never heard kyle mention or care about that in a tesla, just saying. Just went outside to check my model 3.... up is to turn right, it cancels by pushing down. and down is to turn left, you cancel by pushing up. Exactly like this Ariya.

[@Emily09876g]

I'm going to miss Alissa most of all. Considering the way Kyle spoke to her (and spoke down to her) at times, I think she'll be okay.

[@justinstewart3248]

Loo

[@joshmatlock1020]

they must be more mature than I am because there's no way I'd still be able to peacefully co-exist with someone I broke up with...I've been happily married for 15 years so I'll never have to worry about it but I know how i'd be.

[@teddysdadcory]

Wait… they split up?? Where was that announcement?

[@RichardMorton73]

In the UK we don't have all the crazy trim levels you guys have, we have Engage, Advance, Evolve, & Evolve+, the latter three have the option of FWD and E-4orce, which makes it way easier to see the difference between trim levels. I have to say that the difference between Advance and Evolve is huge, with Evolve you get the sunroof, heated and ventilated front seats, the Bose sound system, the moving centre console, the electric opening storage, the HUD display, the rear view mirror screen, and many more. I take delivery of my Evolve E-4orce this Friday, its a fully maintained lease deal. I have to strongly disagree with some of your points, especially the charging speed, the Ariya maximises the charging curve, which is pretty flat as others have mentioned, in the real world the Ariya charges pretty much at the same rate as other so called faster charging vehicles.

[@momodesignn]

USB A is a great option and is still very commonly used. In fact, I don't understand why other car manufacturers think everyone has trashed their USB-A to USB-C cables and think of putting in USB-C plugs only.

[@ervin9805]

its called future proofing

[@kekdogg]

These are hitting the $25k mark now used

[@TechnologyConnections]

My $0.02 on AC charging: I only have a 7.2 kW charger. I regularly travel over 100 mi in a day in my Ioniq 5 and have never once thought I could use more power than that. Hell, if I didn't care about leveraging time-of-use rates, a 3.6 kW charger wouldn't really get in my way. It may be weird in the state of the market for Nissan to only put a 7.2 kilowatt charger onboard the car, but I really think people put way too much emphasis on charging speeds at home. You're going to sleep for 8 hours anyway, and we all know L2 charging on the road just won't cut it for anybody.

[@KyleConner]

Agreed. For many people even a 24A OBC would be fine. However this car is competing in a market where good enough just doesn’t cut it. 48A is the new standard for large battery EVs, and for many people who have long commutes, who go to dinners out, and have an early morning to leave, still sometimes doesn’t charge the car fully quick enough. To me, it’s not so much about what suits the daily driving, but for this price it needs to suit all driving. Hotel Level 2 road trip stop is a common occurrence for me, but rare for many. A 30A charger at business 208V would only be ~6.3kW - not nearly enough to charge the car during a sleep. I believe throughout the lifetime ownership of an EV, this will become a limitation at certain times and it’s unacceptable for $63k as tested.

[@TechnologyConnections]

​@@KyleConner I agree that it's weird in the state of the market, but I also think that having higher than 30 amp AC charging only solves a few rare edge cases. Even the hotel example; you're unlikely to be there for less than 10 hours, and if you're truly in a pinch, you need to go to a DC fast charger anyway. On a road trip, hotel charging is really just a convenience to skip or shorten one stop. And if it's your destination, you're probably gonna be there for more than one night. The main reason I care about this is because I've been trying to get people to assess their actual needs before they commit to installing a 60 amp run to their garage or wherever. There's a lot of people doing needlessly heavy electrical work and service upgrades because they think they need the fastest possible charging their car can support, and as much as I understand that we want to view everything in the light of progress and "the best you can get," it is very possible to go overboard - and the way I see it, almost no one truly needs more than 30 amps at home unless we're talking about trucks.

[@milohobo9186]

You guys sleep for 8 hours a night?!?! In this economy!?!?

[@wetzel82]

I was just watching Alyssa’s facial expression the whole time 😭

[@yhfsywfit]

So was this filmed before or after she found out about Anna?

[@wetzel82]

@@yhfsywfit I honestly didn’t know about the situation until you said this and i watched the porsche taycan delivery video. Not my buisness I like all of them. Just here for the cars.

[@yhfsywfit]

@@wetzel82 you’re a better person than I am 😂

[@justinstewart3248]

@@yhfsywfit can you spill the tea? Who is Anna? Was he cheating on her with another girl?

[@shrichaudhary]

I disagree with you about your AC charging rate of 30 amp being inadequate. For most people, they will be doing that overnight and generally will not be going from empty to full so it’s more than fine. For instance, on my model, Y I just charge usually at 16 A, with my average usage of about 150 miles over three or four days. So I can usually charge from 20% to 80% just using 16 amp charging although I could increase it to 32 A on my level two. Slower charge rates are better for battery life.

[@Necrotron]

I agree with you. I have a 40 amp Grizzl-E EVSE that I haven't yet been able to hardwire yet, so I've instead set it down to 24 amps and plugged it into a NEMA 14-30 plug with an adapter. Charges my car just fine. It's not really necessary to go beyond 30-40 amps unless you're planning to get a MASSIVE battery car like a truck, where you need at least 48 amps to get performance similar to 30 amps on a smaller vehicle. I think the real problem here is the price: they really should be discounting it against other vehicles.

[@kwrzesien17]

I agree with you too. Just having 220V in the garage is enough for everyone. The point being is that 110V is not useful at all, and should be avoided at all costs. Any existing 220V will work, and if installing new service just have a 220V 50A socket installed and get the most economically priced EVSE you can find, install an oven whip from Home Depot if its a hardwire design and plug into socket.

[@JakeShirley]

Same, I never AC charge my Model 3 more than 32A. I wonder if the 30A onboard charger is the max it can sustain or if it's ~24A (80 percent rule).

[@zeethree]

I charge my EV6 with a 60A. Why would you settle for this in 2023 at over $60K? Japanese have not figured out EVs for some reason. Go for Korean or US EV makers right now. This is a piece of technology like a smartphone, not a car. The companies best at tech are winning (US, Korea, China).

[@Necrotron]

@@zeethree as you said, it's more the price that's the problem. 30 amps on a $20-30Ks EV? That's fine. 30 amps on $40K and up? That car better give me a blow job over night while I wait

[@mikebuntting6716]

In the U.K. we only have three choices. Advance 63kw fwd. evolve 87kw fwd. eforce 87kw awd. Evolve has 22kw a.c. Charger

[@michaels3003]

Your AC voltage makes a big difference.

[@chicomtl]

Just wow. Great review guys. This helps me a lot to inform people around me that are less at ease with electrification. Continue the incredible work.

[@kubi0461]

This must explain why I saw 2 Ariya’s available sitting on my local dealer’s lot. I don’t hate it. I just don’t find it worth the cost. If Hyundai can get a handle on their vehicle fire issue, I’d ideally like to try out a Tucson or Santa Fe hybrid. 10:55 while all of my devices are usb-c now, almost all of my cables are usb-a to usb-c. Sure I can buy new cables but it’s nice to have usb-a port options.

[@Harrythehun]

Hard to believe that someone would choose old usb a standard in a modern car and also wanting old hybrids. But we are all different

[@581rma]

Excellent review thanks for taking me back to 2019.

[@fatmanosu]

I like having USB A ports. So many cables that I have still use that. Also all my thumb drives are USB A if I do updates.

[@blackwhirlwind1245]

Some people still use iPhone 7 or 8, including me, USB Type A still sees some uses, so I like having both both options.

[@higherho1540]

The acoustic laminate glass they installed really seems to help at keeping things quiet.

[@CharlieMallow]

I wouldn’t trade my Ariya for any of the new wave of cars, these other car makers rushed to market. Nissan has been making EVs that sold well for over a decade, I loved my Leaf. It was always rock solid. I’ve driven all the rest, hard pass.

[@Nic9963]

Super review, love the detail and explanations.

[@ba177ba18]

Unless this car is wayyyyyyyy cheaper than the Model Y, this car has no chance to compete

[@ginijasso]

I agree I would definitely buy a Tesla over this. The price is not good.

[@Antoinemalone]

I wouldn't buy a tesla for free. Ariya easy!

[@parklandsd]

Great to see Alyssa back in the videos. ❤ Nice car, but not price competitive with other cars out there. Every Nissan dealer has 2 or more sitting on the lot. Must not be selling well.

[@joemartino6976]

Not so sure she's back. This video may be many weeks old.

[@arubaga]

Anna and Alyssa should review this car together ❤

[@johnturner7322]

I have no problem with USB A since persons like me do not buy the latest devices so my connections are older. I would not want to also have some type of adapter!

[@CarsandTechInfo]

The second roof mounted fin is for the camera since this trim has the digital rearview mirror

[@Necrotron]

On the 135 kw DC fast charging max rate, I remember last year Nissan addressed it by saying they're taking an e-tron approach and aiming for a consistent , flat-as-possible curve. I don't know how true that is in practice, though.

[@steveallwine1443]

From what I’ve seen on tests, it holds ~125 KWh like a champ, all the way to 80% until it starts to ramp down. The charge curve is super flat.

[@Necrotron]

@@steveallwine1443 that's actually not too bad! How long is the to-80% time?

[@KyleConner]

Looking forward to testing! Went last night to do the 0-100% and the charger failed 10 minutes in. We’ll go again tonight

[@bloodycreepy]

@@Necrotron i have seen around 35 minutes i have also seen in 0 c go from 2% to 80% in 38 minutes

[@Wasssup3232]

@@Necrotron it’s consistently 30 to 38 minutes depending on how cold it is. Nissan electrified did a lot of charge testing and Bjorn did a charge competition with the id4

[@johnpoldo8817]

Kyle says, “how do I cancel voice recognition?” Duh? How about talking to car & saying, “cancel voice recognition.”

[@kajko6868]

Or press the ”Back” button. RTFM!

[@jsandoval423]

Alissa is back missed you in the videos you need your own out of spec channel 😊

[@Emily09876g]

I think this video was filmed awhile ago. He's dating someone else.

[@LordStevie]

@@Emily09876g She still works with Kyle, they just aren’t romantically involved any more.

[@justinstewart3248]

@@Emily09876g what? Really?! They’re done??

[@kwrzesien17]

Liquid cooling and 125kW CCS?! That’s a GIANT leap forward from 50kW ChAdeMo especially if it can hold that rate for 30 minutes!

[@kylinblue]

Yes, from a leaf. The world already moved on to 250kw+

[@victorcaballero2487]

Too little too late… pass

[@AFJDM]

$63K for the loaded one? Dayum, the Ioniq 5/EV6 come fully loaded at almost $5K less, charge faster, have a better warranty, and are on par or better looking than this. Unless you need some of that 120 month 25% APR financing from Nissan I'd just go with a Korean offering.

[@Lewis_Standing]

My Kona does 77kw DC fast charging..... 150kw is fine, doesn't suck at all. Maybe you Americans road trip more than most. But in the UK I can basically drive from top to bottom before needing to charge. Don't mind a break at the end of a 300 mile trip. You have a special use case Kyle, I'd rather my battery lasts than has crazy fast charging.

[@BhavanaKarusala]

We have several states that are longer than 300 miles. So yeah us Americans do drive more.

[@yystl]

UK seems more like a special case where everything is closer together. Even continental Europe has significantly greater distances.

[@markfitzpatrick6692]

Kyle always goes off the deep end with his comments. He never thinks that most people are not him and 125-135 is fine. The bolt maxes at 55 kw but people love it.

[@Lewis_Standing]

Still 300 miles Is a 5 hour drive. You need a 40 min rest.

[@joshuarosen465]

The difference between Americans and the British is that Americans think 100 years is a long time and the British think 100 miles is a long distance.

[@McMooo587]

I had my grandparents Cadillac Deville Concours for some time in high school. Had the front bench and of course my friends who sat in the front thought it was hilariously to slam the gas pedal since it was easily reachable

[@hereigoagain5050]

What a hoot to bomb around in a Deville! Must have been great HS years. These days, families live out of Devilles.

[@trumpetscall8910]

Its incredible how different experiences one can have inside a car, wonder if he complained as much about yhe Tesla y. Wich i didn't like inside, it's baren like a desert and feels so cheap.

[@kyleloeffler321]

Are you gonna review the Lyriq?

[@matthewprather7386]

Kyle always does a good job dissecting the details of a car... The Ariya seems like a car we'll see selling at a discount.. Maybe a good car to lease for folks that like that.

[@jasonblair4057]

I can not believe how expensive this car is. When it comes to the AWD the Ioniq 5/EV6 have it beat by a few thousand but you can’t get one of those in a decent timeframe,we know why you can get an Ariya much quicker. Nissan needs to address their pricing or be left in the dust.

[@bloodycreepy]

ionq5 and ev 6 cost around 60k

[@jasonblair4057]

@@bloodycreepy That is true, the Ariya loaded is $69k that is model y money which is makes choosing the y an easy choice.

[@bloodycreepy]

@@jasonblair4057 nope the ariya is 63 out the door not 69 and the model y need a 12 k upgrade to match pro pilot 2

[@jasonblair4057]

@@bloodycreepy Ah, I should have said I was configuring one here in Ontario, Canada. Out here too spec without a list of options is the same price as a long range model y.

[@glockmanish]

NO EV gives full power from the stop. A channel of your format SHOULD KNOW THIS! You mistake that with torque. Power is proportional to torque times RPM. As there is only a single gear the RPM directly proportional to the speed. So it is the most normal thing IN THE WORLD to not have the full power until a certain speed. As soon as you are at the point of max power (which in this case is about 40MPH ... as is with most EVs) the torque falls inverse proportionally to the RPM rising. This creates a flat power curve until the RPM limit of the motor. Torque is limited by the amperage the motor and inverter can handle. What Nissan should have done to prevent this misunderstanding (even seasoned EV journalists as yourself are falling for) is to report the percentage of the available torque produced at that RPM/speed. Nissan just decided to provide very limited torque and gently torque rampup ... And this is probably done to keep cost for the power electronics (mainly inverter) in check. The more torque should be delivered, the more copper is needed in the motor and the more MOSFETs or higher quality MOSFETs are needed in the inverter. Another thing is durability of the car overall. High torque at low speeds shortens the life span of differentials, drive axles, suspension arm bushings, and so on. So ramping the torque softly makes sure the car holds up during waranty. This is something the Hyundai Kona and Kia eNiro is also known for. These cars have a waranty of 5 and 7 years and thus it falls on the manufacturer if the car rips apart itself. How bad this is can be seen with the amount of suspension defects in Model 3 and Y ... sometimes worn out after less than 30.000 miles.

[@abraxastulammo9940]

ID4 3.02s 0-30 mph (50 km/h really), Ariya 3.76s according to Teslabjørn's test... Both were non-awd though, the Nissan had 20 % better power/weight ratio.

[@TheAdventureAuto]

I've gotten so spoiled with having that lower trunk tub area and frunk, that this is disappointing to see on a newly designed vehicle. I use my Tesla for absolutely everything and loading the tub with groceries then the top part larger items. I'm doing home improvements and loading 400lb of bricks in the trunk and frunk to even out weight. Going out to dinner and keeping leftover food in the front, or items that need to be kept cold being separate from the cabin is needed. First world problem but once you have a great feature like these it's hard to go back.

[@nathanwolf5547]

In Europe the quality has been well received. I’m wondering if you guys get a lesser quality?

[@phillyphil1513]

love the way this car looks with it's "Kumiko" accents. admittedly after 2 generations of Leafs, I didn't really think much of the Ariya when it was first being shown (ref: last year's Super Bowl commercial '22) but now that I've seen and driven one it's damn impressive. my tester was a FWD, small battery with an MSRP of just $44,525. rebate or no rebate that price is MORE than worth paying just for the "added value" of NOT associating oneself with the Teslarati or Elon Musk. fortunately I have plug-n-charge in my driveway and the two EVGO stations near me are both brand new and work just fine (4 miles away just got upgraded BTC's and the one 8 miles away is a new Delta/Signet install). only really use them for loaners but they exist.

[@Ficon]

Ariya is like 50% made of piano gloss black on the outside. Cheaper than cheap.

[@bigd7386]

What? Why is that considered cheaper? It’s still a painted surface and no different than a black car. I could understand if it was unpainted plastic. Piano gloss black is a problem INSIDE a car. Black exterior paint is nothing new.

[@Ficon]

@@bigd7386 PGB on Ariya and RAV4 is not painted. It's the same crap as on the interior that shows every scratch. You are going to have to PPF the whole car like it’s some watercolor-painted Tesla.

[@bigd7386]

@@Ficon No matter which way you cut it, most SUVs/Crossovers use plastic on those lower portions and they will take a beating. So whether its painted or not is not a sign of "cheapness" like your trying to make it out to be. If it's painted, it can and will get scratches AND the possibility of chips. If it's just pigmented shiny plastic at least there no chance of chips. It's a high wear area and if you're anal, you're going to coat it anyway.

[@smarticus6384]

It seems like there was quite a bit of engineering conflict going on with this design. The Ariya could have been something special, but instead, it's more like a Detroit-built EV where too many design teams were making too many conflicting decisions that negatively impact the final production variant.

[@carsonassociates3263]

And perhaps more than a little paranoia about customers wanting EVs to feel and drive like their ICE cars (i.e. no true 1-pedal driving). It’s like when Ford et al bury the SOC% display deep in the Infotainment, as if they think their customers are too stupid to handle the mental math required to competently drive an EV.

[@theavanderpool]

Thought it was pretty funny that the entire time the team was talking about the soundproofing of the car, and it’s impressiveness, I was distracted by all the street noise of the passing traffic lol

[@higherho1540]

Tax credit isn’t a big deal. Nissan is giving equivalent rebates. Also the complaint about the turning on the car seat warmer, their is a little icon on the bottom left or right of the screen that turns it on. And that is on every screen option you press. Out the door price for me was 39k after rebates (I got 8k. Nissian customer, financing through nissian, and a dealer rebate). for the evolve + e4 force AWD.

[@kwrzesien17]

If the 3 year delay was to add a liquid cooler battery system then it may have been worth it, but they lost their EV leader status with that delay.

[@EggertOlafs]

The Ariya was designed to be liquid cooled right from the start. Nissan was very unlucky when it came to covid. They designed and built a whole new factory just for Ariya, and the pandemic hit when the factory was also only 1/4 ready. So when things started opening up, they needed to finish the factory first and calibrate it before they could even start making the car. And by the way, I was one of the first to order e-4orce in Norway, mid-September 2021. My first delivery date was june 2022, so no, it's not 3 years delayed.

[@0JEB0]

In Europe the onboard charger is 3 phase 32A = 22 kW (Type2 connector) 🔋🔌👍

[@steffenjensen9350]

NOT standard in all markets, like the Renault E-Megane, optional in some EU countries, and not possible on lower spec models.

[@nevea2be]

Interesting video. Car looks great on the outside. The electric motor whine and road noise is some of the loudest that I’ve heard in your videos, very annoying. From an ICE perspective I don’t think I’ve ever had a turn signal where you would go up twice to turn right and to turn it off. I’ve always had to push it back to center to turn it off, unless it did do it and I was just going on mental habit.

[@DM-fv7hw]

I watched your latest video on this first (My friend bought one) and have to say if you can get a great lease deal why not. I'm tired of hearing about range and fast charging. An electric car purchase (lease), for us, would be a second car, a car to drive every day, not a car to drive on long road trips and such. We'll have an ICE vehicle for that. At the rate I drive on a daily basis this would probably be charged once every two weeks, at home.

[@willpatton9529]

Can't wait to replace my Leaf one of these just have to wait about 5 years to afford it lol

[@Necrotron]

"There's no reason why USB-A should be in cars at all" There's plenty of devices that haven't jumped to USB-C. Hush.

[@vesuvius007]

I have several chargers that are relatively new that have usb a on one end and USB c on the other. Not a big deal to me at all.

[@petehelme7714]

yeah, humanity isn't yet done with USB-A. my Land Rover has a mix of USB-A and USB-C ports too. I'd say there are a lot of iOS device owners that have drawers full of USB-A cables. ;)

[@DouglasJMark]

Might sell a fair number of these to those not planning to road trip much and want a Japanese car as well. 🙏 ❤❤❤

[@azureactivedirectory]

Hey at least it’s better than the bz4x/RZ, good first attempt?

[@lordstevewilson1331]

On my 08 audi TT you cancel indicator opposite way, its normal

[@MrNicholg]

Just bury Nissan now. I'm so saddened by their trajectory. The early 90s hurrah was what was needed here.

[@kwrzesien17]

They ran out Ghosen

[@AmitPatel_.]

I grew up a Nissan fan and still drive a 97 Maxima. There hasn’t been any compelling Nissan product in 20 years. RIP Nissan.

[@victorvek5227]

I love when oversized people talk about space lol. Is there a back seat that accommodates you favorably? A f-150 lightning perhaps.

[@lemongavine]

Lack of full one pedal driving is a deal breaker for me.

[@lemongavine]

@@PineApple-bs8rt I’ve been enjoying one pedal driving for several years now and it’s great. Most EVs have it so I have plenty of choices besides the Ariya. But I get what you’re saying. It’s definitely a first world problem and not a huge deal but it has become a preference. Sort of like power steering. Cars didn’t have it for years, but if a new car came out without it, many people would consider that a deal breaker.

[@DylanKoenig]

Rofl, hey what do you think of this mass produced new electric car? "The stitching on the back passenger seat is coming apart, so not very good" Someone could have damaged that at the port, dealership, or reviewing it.... smfh

[@themiddleground5263]

hard disagree on USB-A, I don't have a single device that doesn't use it. I'd have to get all new cables.

[@BillB33525]

lower end models will be great Socer Mom cars, take kids to school, grocery shoping, Lowes & HD runs.

[@FrankD71864]

What if I need a USB A?

[@universeisundernoobligatio3283]

With my Y tried out my new CCS adaptor, parked beside a Ariya, its so much bigger then my Y.

[@Josh-179]

Yet, the Model Y is bigger in every respect inside, plus a front trunk.

[@silviuguseila2552]

@@Josh-179 he said the Y is smaller

[@Fumbiii16]

Looks big outside but y beats it inside

[@diablo81588]

@@Fumbiii16No way, the Y is the width of a compact car. Way too narrow to be comfortable for anything other than short commutes.

[@Smiler7]

Nissan removed the RED colour option from the Ariya. How did you get one?

[@PineApple-bs8rt]

There was never one. The platinum+ came in only 4 colors if I remember right.

[@brianfreeman4499]

Love Nissan and Love this Ariya....might be priced a little on the high side, but a great looking vehicle...normally love your reviews but seems like you were definitely nitpicking on this one, it looks better than the Ioniq 5 by leaps and bounds, ex., of nitpicking complaining about the seats, every reviewer knows that Nissan makes some of the best seats in the automotive industry regardless of price (even Tesla copied them), and complaints about the pebble steering wheel, cmon Bro...that is more of a preference...seems like a Nissan bashing review, not your best review Bro...!

[@kwrzesien17]

And then you have to work with the dealership

[@ericsmith768]

Felt like Kyle really went hard on Nissan on this review. I have watched many reviews of the Ariya and Kyle’s is a real outlier.

[@flattire707]

Think I shall keep my Model 3LR if you don't mind.

[@akron82]

Value wise I’m glad I got a Bolt EUV premier with super cruise

[@SethPinnock]

So they released the car as if it was 2018!. I agree with you, it's not packaged properly, no interior space, no frunk, no trunk, no spare, no super chaarger, no smart pricing, no high quality, it's all the cons of EV

[@abraxastulammo9940]

Sandy Munro should wash their heads

[@SS-yw7vo]

Alyssa is back!

[@tsimpson8098]

Its obvious they are Tesla model Y fans. Because this Ariya is Awesome. The cabin is great the ride is comfortable. This to me is better than the model Y.

[@SoshaRoblox1234]

Can you please put the nissan ariya in the hogback test?

[@njdad2476]

This is a very biased, nitpicking review! I’ll still take this over Model Y. Nissan is well rooted in EV cars and the built quality of this car is better than Model Y. Don’t take my word for it, go check it out and compare it to Tesla, you’d be surprised at the quality of Ariya in and out. Nissan though, should have done better with the charging and price.

[@Josh-179]

That's a heck of a lag time getting this video up. Broke up with Alyssa a few weeks ago.

[@flattire707]

Poor storage, no back seat room, high price, slow charging, no one pedal driving and poor range considering battery size. Thanks for not sugar coating the review.

[@paulnicholls2512]

I'm surprised that the US 87 kWh doesn't have 22 kWh AC charging the same as the UK models!

[@KHA107]

Please do a test with Subaru solterra

[@ewadge]

I’ve seen a few reviews about it. Universally it’s been reviewed as being a truly terrible EV. Range and particularly charging speeds are appalling.

[@OhGawdHesGotAGun]

As a Subie driver for the last 7yrs, I was looking into another until the car went out of warranty & ended up costing me about $1k/month in repairs since. I still did look into the Solterra, and looked immediately away. All manufacturers were in a huge rush to adapt to the EV market., but the only ones who were truly prepared, it seems, were Hyundai/Genesis and KIA (slightly less so, VW). All the others, especially Toyota & Subaru who partnered to design the Solterra, fell flat on their faces. Toyota/Lexus are the most reliable car makers in history. Their interiors are hideous, however. When you take Subaru interiors (utilitarian, minimalistic, "mom-jeans" appearance inside & out), you end up with the strange, awkward & off-putting Solterra. I won't support Elon by buying a Tesla (I have scruples), but the key to success there is to design something that does what they do closely enough, while providing an interior that doesn't look like a prison cell, and a charging network that doesn't disrupt your life too much.

[@pumpintuner]

Great video although it would’ve been nice if we could’ve had another camera angle from Alyssa to see areas of the infotainment system not captured by the mounted cams. No one pedal driving & lack of tax credit sucks