Wonderful video Luke, Nice to see our product being put through its paces. I know we already spoke about this earlier but for anyone reading a couple of more tips on what you can do when working with this stuff. You can use water to get a nice smooth finish if you need it, a heat gun can dry it out pretty fast if its a thin layer but be careful not to go too hot ;) and for the molding you can throw in the a freezer so that you can demould quicker and set it aside to cure. we have found with the freezer method if you went thick with the model it can lose some of the finer detail fyi.
@sgt-slag4 жыл бұрын
I suggest rolling it through a Pasta Machine, to make consistently thick, thin sheets, for roads, or floors; use a texture roller after you make the thin sheets. If it sticks to the rollers, try dusting them with talcum powder, as a release agent. Cheers!
@graemerigg40294 жыл бұрын
Clay sticking to roller, a thin dusting of talcum powder. Cosplayers use the foam for sculpting detail and filling seams on eva foam armour.
@negotiableaffections4 жыл бұрын
Seen this for cosplay, but never considered it for terrain building - interesting. I was surprised it responded to the leopard-spot technique as I thought that relied on the absorbancy of the plaster. I have an idea for the road building, maybe you could try it out... Roll out the clay with a smooth roller, then place it on a piece of loose weave fabric and then use the texture roller. This would hopefully imprint the cobbles etc AND force the clay into the fabric underneath. When dry it should be a flexible/strong 'hybrid-fabric' that could even be applied to a slightly uneven base. Idea 2) With a texture roller and a circular cookie cutter, figure basing could be a doddle?
@EssexBoyz4 жыл бұрын
Keith Stewart love that road idea 💡👍🏼😃
@dextersamson82863 жыл бұрын
Saw this*
@negotiableaffections3 жыл бұрын
@@dextersamson8286 Thank you, Dexter, Mea culpa, it was a contraction of, "I've seen this used in cosplay circles..." but you know how it is with commenting at speed. I shan't go to the bother of editing it as I suppose many hobbyists will understand what I was trying to say. Thanx again for you're very pacific grammer correction.
@patrickbateman694202 жыл бұрын
@@dextersamson8286 it actually makes more sense contextually to say "seen this" (i.e. a common contraction of "I have seen this") rather than "saw this", because it implies that he has generally 'seen it around' rather than just at one specific moment. A) it flows better for anyone reading that way; B) it's correct; and C) we all knew exactly what he meant. If you want to try and correct people's English in future, be better at it yourself.
@ThePlacemat4 жыл бұрын
be interesting to see how flexible it is for roll up roads. maybe back it with cloth rather than foam board. something like hessian.
@ThePlacemat4 жыл бұрын
@@valasdarkholme6255 Hi. Yes I've seen him make a custom Burma matt once. Done similar for my club.
@HighEyeWorkshop4 жыл бұрын
This is another one of your genius moments, mate. We owe you a lot for your experiments. Wishing you every success. Hope you're well. Stay safe.
@4hedgesfamily4 жыл бұрын
I love your testing methods. One thing I've noticed over years of building terrain is that soft terrain usually lacks definition, and hard terrain chips. If weight wasn't a factor, what would happen if you make a hollow rock face of foam clay, then filled it with plaster after the clay dried? It seems like you'd have super sturdy terrain that would give when miniatures, dice, and thrown beverage cans hit it.
@scrubsrc40844 жыл бұрын
"Heavy is good, heavy is reliable. If it does not work you can always hit him with it" Some flexible paints would work a treat with any parts that remain flexible
@TheNorthernRider4 жыл бұрын
Sneaky fucking Russians...
@coleenknickelbein80634 жыл бұрын
Fabric paints are excellent for remaining flexible.
@NeillRobinson4 жыл бұрын
Trying to remember where that quote is from. I have not slept in 3 days. Help.
@scrubsrc40844 жыл бұрын
@@NeillRobinson Boris the bullet dodger from snatch whn Tommy is buying a gun off him
@ckvonpickles37513 жыл бұрын
Why is he called Boris the bullet dodger? Because he dodges bullets, Avi
@mikecirfield49474 жыл бұрын
Luke I have been watching your vids on and off for about 2 years now but never got round to doing anything. With all the time on my hands due to lock down I decided to have a go and make my first table. So I spent a coupe of hours watching and making lists of stuff to buy and then sent off to various suppliers including your store at Geek Gaming. Just a modest first purchase of your casting plaster and modelling compound. I was astonished when they arrived the just now within 24 hours of ordering!! That is incredible service especially during the lockdown. Please pass on my thanks to all at Geek Gaming. Just waiting for the various rock moulds and paints to arrive from Amazon etc so I can have a stab. I must say you make it all look very straightforward (which I'm sure it is not). Thanks for sharing your techniques in the videos you post and wish me luck! I might even have a go at making my own compound when toilet roll supply returns to normality. Thank you.
@coleenknickelbein80634 жыл бұрын
Love these experiment vids. I do this myself with new products but it's super nice to know what will work and not work before sinking too much money into a new supply. Appreciate everyone still putting out videos during this time of social distancing and self quarantine. Thank you so much. I also appreciate that you mention Patreon but dont make a big deal out of it. I love Amazon affiliate links too. Especially right now, when people are ordering so much online. Hope you and your friends/family/country are doing well! Cheers!
@SBEARD123454 жыл бұрын
Love the fact the company said thanks, and gave some more tips.. That's a good company there
@nickdavis54204 жыл бұрын
I love it for cosplay and it works with silicon molds . To keep it flexible yet strong you can use hexflex or any Pva glue .
@JPWestmas4 жыл бұрын
For the first time I think I am convinced with this material that rolling patterns and molds are super practical and clean! Thanks for this video. :)
@stephenpotter35094 жыл бұрын
That was a really thorough test from someone who clearly knows the right questions. I came across foam clay looking at a model armour clip. You can dremmel and sand it when cured. It’s way less messy than mucking about with plaster too.
@rachaelkasper54454 жыл бұрын
I love it...I'm working on a dollhouse with a surrounding landscaping diorama and this will make lovely headstones in a cemetery. This is an exciting product.
@j4534 жыл бұрын
Everytime you look up at your top camera, it's like you're looking up to god for help lol
@jamie69murphy4 жыл бұрын
Looks like it would be great for applying roller textures to curved surfaces (like round towers etc.)
@benduston4 жыл бұрын
Luke, going in dry during lockdown 2020
@Ainar864 жыл бұрын
I don't think lube producers are considered essential businesses so it might be a harbinger of things to come...
@philthycat14084 жыл бұрын
Lockdown 2021 should have it sorted.
@jasoncoates18354 жыл бұрын
@@philthycat1408 Yeah, we have it pretty much taken care of by now.
@victoryspath41164 жыл бұрын
Awesome video Luke! It's answered so many questions for me. I love videos like this. They give me insight into how to use products. After watching this I might pick some up myself and give it a go.
@zargonfuture40464 жыл бұрын
Can see this as a great product or surfacing buildings as well. Press molding for things like walls and can see this as a core base for hedges as well. Roads on a flexible base.
@sprootown Жыл бұрын
Polymer clay is what i make tiles plants stone walls. unusual rock formations...... easy and fast to use, there's a brand Cosclay that is quite flexible. handy to just pop in the oven for 15 minutes. And you have it ready to paint...thin or solid. Nice vid! Thanks!
@kevinm37514 жыл бұрын
Honestly being it is new and showing the promise it does I say this is a winner and can only get better so long as the manufacturer listens to us and takes our suggestions and issues to heart and try to improve it... Yea WOW!
@craigbirchall64754 жыл бұрын
We need more outtakes and gag reels in your videos. And great video matt.
@jacobhope61644 жыл бұрын
Wow! That stuff is amazing! Thanks for sharing your discovery with us.
@JayAdan4 жыл бұрын
Great video. I've been thinking about playing with this stuff myself but I didn't have a specific use-case in mind for it. Seeing how the roller texture turned out gives me a reason.
@evanhughes76094 жыл бұрын
I think this might be worth a try. Thanks for doing all the hard work!
@vryc3 жыл бұрын
Super late. But I just found this stuff a month ago or so and wow! This has changed my molding life. Roads, rocks, wall textures (i.e. wood, stone...). This product is brilliant with the rollers, as you showed us. I've tried brush-on primer/sealer and that seems to really increase the durability and reduces tearing. You can get this down to about 1mm and it still takes a heck of a beating on game boards and the like. Love it.
@modhail69084 жыл бұрын
Luke, for the roads, perhaps instead of putting it on the foamboard, you could put it on fabric, to keep the flexibility but help with the tearing?
@VaulsAnvil4 жыл бұрын
I use this a lot in cosplay. For push molds I put them in the freezer and pop them out to air dry. Do that before pulling them out for your undercuts you mentioned
@alexneal95344 жыл бұрын
This looks very interesting. Love the out takes.
@Fissi0nChips4 жыл бұрын
Got this in Canada from a local craft store. Price was a bit cheaper at $25 CAD for 300 Grams. Exact same packaging except it was branded to the craft store. Can't wait to try it.
@nathandbeal4 жыл бұрын
Worth trying the roads with a fabric backing? I wonder if that would give it a lot more strength.
@nicynodle23 жыл бұрын
I haven't seen it suggested yet, but a good use for this is slap a bit on a base and squidge it around a bit, boom random terrain height that will never look the same, glue and sand or some static grass and your golden. Oh, this is also a good use as it's using very small amount for model bases so more cost effective.
@sandralachance14244 жыл бұрын
I used something very similar (Crayola Model Magic) for few little things, a bucket for my well, a pelt carpet and few bags and it did very well!
@nickbutler79354 жыл бұрын
A great initial review Luke. Will be watching keenly for follow-up reviews. I could see me using it perhaps for roads etc with my G.S.W rollers, as for rocks and the like I think I will stick to plaster as weight is not too much of an issue for my static displays. Keep up the great work and to you and all your followers, stay safe, stay well.
@theQiwiMan4 жыл бұрын
I woke up this morning not even knowing how badly i needed this thing that I was unaware of even existed is absolutely necessary in my life
@robinhood13374 жыл бұрын
Love your videos! I have been using staedtler fimo air light for some time for basing my minis. After drying it remains quite light and you can cut and carve it quite easily. The result are light, good locking miniature rocks.
@paulmorgan2744 жыл бұрын
Hi Luke, can I suggest air dry clay on you tube, you will find quite a range quite a few of us make intricate flowers for displays. Katy sue is a company that makes moulds for the cake and model making groups. Try corn flour to assist getting it out of the mould. Regards Paul from London
@bethanygraham4274 жыл бұрын
Great to see you back to your best - playing with something new.
@adamryan50384 жыл бұрын
looks like the best material for the texture rollers
@espalding34 жыл бұрын
Thank you experimenting with this product. A terrain/rock material instead of plaster or plaster over foam shapes or ground goop for Free-Mo model railroads? Light, able to handle a bit of bashing around, resist temperature changes.
@s1nz3n4 жыл бұрын
Cloth or vinyl backing for the roll up roads may add strength from tears while still letting it remain as flexible.
@seangere96984 жыл бұрын
Smooths with water and if you use a heat gun you can dry that stuff out in seconds to minutes depending on how thick it is. Most use it in their Cosplay builds. But I would use it more then plaster. No need to break it up to go around curves on cliff faces and such. As for coloring it use tints/inks vs. paint if you want the color to be absorbed into it. Just add a few drops to it and mix well to get a good base color instead of white. Also it comes in black as well. Something to think about
@polito964 жыл бұрын
If it does stick well to a cloth. I believe that is will add strength and durability with the cloth backing. The paper from the foam board gave it some strength. Just need to see what cloth works best. But it does look promising for roads.
@BroadswordWargaming4 жыл бұрын
This stuff looks really good man, good find! Loving the looks on the video too. Great work 😁
@keithparrish4 жыл бұрын
Good video how will stand up to do rocks and resin water scenes
@nottinghamboardandwargames15584 жыл бұрын
@luke Have you considered Polyurethane foam or just expanding foam in the silicone mold. Also thing layer of das and foam filler.?
@boestera4 жыл бұрын
I wonder if you could use expanding foam inside the thinner/hollow press mold part and then cut/saw off the excess to give you full support inside of the mold and a flat surface to press against styrofoam.
@Rob_King_of_the_Plants4 жыл бұрын
I wonder how it compares to a 60/40 silicone / corn starch mix. I think you could use this mix as a road top after rolling it with a texture roller as well
@KeldonRaven4 жыл бұрын
I've sculpted stuff with my daughter with similar stuff. Might have to experiment with it as a terrain medium, the flexibility might be useful for confirming to curved profiles. I'm enjoying seeing if it's mould friendly. I know it's too stringy to peal out 'wet', I'm not sure if it will cure in a mould so your efforts are interesting research. I suspect the cure time is really a case of mould it and leave it for a week. It's an air dry and mould side it's not getting much. Good to know it takes paint well. The roller trick is useful to know, and heres an idea instead of foam board how about forming it directly on something like cheesecloth? Possible play mat material?
@Lazorlink4 жыл бұрын
I saw another quick vid on a guy making his own version of this. Something that may or may not have been posted below, it looks like hard sharp pulls on it can break it much more cleanly than when you were pulling it apart. You might also want to test it after its fully dried. Some comments Ive seen about it for cosplay is that it can get to be brittle. Not sure if that is something that could be stopped with a sealer applied when it gets the the desired dryness or not. Another great vid!
@childofthedarkrat4 жыл бұрын
So many potential jokes and innuendos to be made with this video. Pull it off, push it in, wait for it to get hard etc... Loved the outro too. Would appreciate more bloopers and the like. Stay classy Luke!
@GalaxyStranger014 жыл бұрын
This looks like a fantastic product. It's super light-weight and has a little give to prevent damage. But I really would suggest using Mold Release for any use of molds.
@raymadi11224 жыл бұрын
Looks good, have to try on my builds....Thank you Luke
@TheGreatMim4 жыл бұрын
Brilliant video Luke, love the bits at the end😂. Really like the way that stuff worked with rollers, made thin enough they’d be great for adding stone effects on mdf kits, like a church I’m building soon. Just an idea, but wonder if we could use it the other way around and press things we want to copy into it, let it dry and use it as a mould to poor plaster into?
@sandmanhh674 жыл бұрын
For the roads you could test rolling onto a cloth backing - that looked like the paper was causing the tears so maybe using a more flexible backing?
@vlissinger3 жыл бұрын
oo for the rock molds, do thin layer and fill it up with Polyurethaan foam ( PUR or PU )
@nickbutler79354 жыл бұрын
I recently got some to have a play with. Really weird feel. Anyway. Used the same rock moulds you tried. I did full fills and left them for 5 days, Big negative on cure time. However it did alleviate the undercut problem with careful removal. Detail is super. Also tried in 1/35th scale brick moulds from Dio-Debris. Not a success. Many air bubbles on the surface. Results with my green stuff rollers was fantastic. Have tried with Acrylic, Enamel, Oil and Laquer paints. Works okay with all. I mainly do static dioramas so weight is not really an issue, but I will definitely be using foam clay for some of the road work as it is so very easy to work with. As you said a clean work space is an absolute must. I dropped a piece on a quarry tile, which had been mopped that morning. It shamed me with the crap that it picked up. However does make using ground cover such as small stones etc quite easy.
@kloudwalker18 ай бұрын
If too sticky work it like taffy. Use a quick pull to keep from being stretchy. It will snap apart with the quick pull
@aristotle292 жыл бұрын
I bought this stuff to try out because I liked the idea of flexible foam rocks for gaming, but mine took forever to dry, over a week. I know it's winter, but that is a crazy long time. Also, they didn't dry flat, and were curved pretty badly. I'm going to try this again when it warms up, but I was kind of disappointed. It's not a complete loss as I can use them for other things, or maybe re-wet them and try it again
@joshuaholbrook60964 жыл бұрын
I've never used this particular product, but I know with other types of open cell foams, you can do a thinned mix of wood glue, water and paint as your base color. When it dries it will absorb into the foam and harden it, it takes away the flexibility but might increase the overall strength without increasing the weight.
@edwinoutlaw17064 жыл бұрын
Could you try filling gaps on a miniature for conversions and such ? Will it "stick" to plastic ? Shrinkage ?
@Fadeing4 жыл бұрын
Curious if any color can be mixed in pre-cured? So any tears wouldn’t be a stark white as it wears.
@irons1de14 жыл бұрын
May grab some of this foam and definitely going to be grabbing the rollers think will really be good for bases for my models
@louislomber74364 жыл бұрын
For the roads I would probably have left it on the foam board. Gives it more durability and not ever have to worry about it tearing. Seems like a pretty cool product.
@skmarcoux2 жыл бұрын
Cornflour in mould works
@DarthJeep3 жыл бұрын
I'm currently building a LoZBotW Hinox out of EVA and using the foam clay to detail the EVA sub structure. I've never used it before so thanks for the video. This may help me. This things going to be about a foot tal and tandon it's own two feet.
@mikegovan32034 жыл бұрын
Great video. I think I will try it for a sewer tunnel I want to build. Thank you
@Ojthemighty4 жыл бұрын
20:00 makes it look like the bricks have worn down over the years looks great
@charlesvanneste28344 жыл бұрын
DIY battle mats? Possibly use a porous cloth backing and thicker foam clay so as not to tear. Would probably have to roll it on dowl for storage.
@jameskilts5554 жыл бұрын
I wonder if you could make a large roll out board with it? Like a wood plank one would be neat.
@stellamcquillan18263 жыл бұрын
Can you add colour before hand using powdered paints? When doing furniture repairs on antique furniture we may need to use isopon (car body filler) we would colour beforehand
@Chili-Tom4 жыл бұрын
Could you use expanding foam in the thin rock mold ones to give them structure? It would be cheap and easy and would fill it out completely
@TheHikingReader4 жыл бұрын
Just came across your channel yesterday. Great stuff man! Love the experimental type of video here.
@vadikpanteon4 жыл бұрын
Lovley video Luke. What do you think about rolling that material over dust sheet surface ( probabley one with plastic underneat) and adding textues ets. Might it work like game mat wich you could roll in tube and transort easeley? Kind regards,Vadym
@Ben_de_pick4 жыл бұрын
Wow thank you Luke for this discover !! It makes my imagination crazy ahah !! Love love
@pezz26864 жыл бұрын
Also a comment on you saying everything sticks to it....I wonder if you mixed it with rubble sand etc I wonder how it would turn out.
@MB-st7be4 жыл бұрын
Cool that you can now bend rocks surfaces over a hill shape instead of just placing them! Or make a humpback bridge road surface, no sweat...
@FrostandFists4 жыл бұрын
Great video, Luke! This foam definitely seems like it'll be useful in the future! I can't wait to see what projects you incorporate it into! ~ Wolfbrother Methos
@Weefather4 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't want to glue a figure to it that was say standing on one foot. Even after it dries it seem really flexible.
@colinmack86554 жыл бұрын
Going to try this stuff with a roller and on some mdf boards
@corneliusperkins73634 жыл бұрын
Another great video. I'd be interested to see what you think of its properties once it's fully cured, and also how it is to sculpt it like clay. Oh, and if it turns out to be great, I look forward to your "how to make a replacement for foam clay" video - the ones for washes and texture paints are brilliant.
@jules_paints_40k294 жыл бұрын
Very impressed with it I have to say and a great honest video yet again.
@newfenrisrailroad6214 жыл бұрын
Hey Luke think I’ll try this on my train and 40K board for the rock molds and flag stone roller.the rock molds need to curve around some so the flexibility is great hope to put in a future video update on my layout channel. Love love William
@athollmcnicoll2564 жыл бұрын
For the sake of weight and durability - looks good but in preference I prefer the old fashioned rock moulds done with plaster, as I know the results will be adequate for my intentions. Cheers Luke stay safe!!
@barryslemmings314 жыл бұрын
For your shipping/weight problem, have you considered a two-stage plastering technique with balls of polystyrene or sawdust mixed with PVA in the first layer?
@MentatOfDune4 жыл бұрын
Great vid. New to the channel. I love the roads in particular. I'm going to be dipping my toe into scenery building (just a bit) for the first time because of the new Elder Scrolls miniature game. Do you have any tips/vids for making modular, indoor dungeon/cave walls that can be rearranged for different scenarios?
@Thomas-ld1fm4 жыл бұрын
How do you think it will handle resin, it you try to do a water feature will it react with the resin?
@Hunt59644 жыл бұрын
quality review mate, really enjoyed it. your products are quality too. just a thought and you probably have done it already but if you have a marker or cross hair on your desk it will save you looking up to ensure its in the shot. Nice one, cheers Sam
@Hunt59644 жыл бұрын
Lukes Aps - Geek Gaming Scenics well I’ll just shut my uneducated trap! 😂 video quality is always great just something I noticed. Keep up the great work mate!
@ModellingforAdvantage4 жыл бұрын
Useful vid, look forward to seeing more on this product.
@ontheedgeofshadow27904 жыл бұрын
with more experimentation, that might be a real slick way of getting around that weight issue like you said, mate.. great video
@HappyGnoux4 жыл бұрын
wow this looks really cool! I want to try that now ^^ thank you for this really nice video (once again!) :)
@Jagernaughty4 жыл бұрын
Brilliant video Luke, almost spat out my biscuit tea at the end. I wonder if you dusted the mould first it might come out a bit easier. Maybe Talc or even plaster powder?
@TheBigLigginski4 жыл бұрын
You can buy a small brick (30g) of this stuff from Hobbycraft for £1. Not cost effective in bulk but useful for anyone who wants to try it out. I quite like the undulations in the paving slabs because it makes them look old and worn. If you made a road out of this stuff you could use that technique to create cart wheel tracks.
@dariopasquino104 жыл бұрын
got a question, if say you did the rollers on a flat bit of silicone, like the silicone sheets you get for baking etc, pulling off the flat foam once set would you be able to use the patterned foam as a covering for curved surfaces like a circular tower for instance? just an idea but would be very useful for that IMO.
@josav094 жыл бұрын
a very interesting material. The roads took a lot of punishment and it looked like it was very easy to work with
@bernardbernadette75694 жыл бұрын
it look really similar to "patarev" a thing for children as we call it in france. good video mate ! really enjoyed it
@fnitrox4 жыл бұрын
cosplayers use this stuff all the time, to work it better you can wet your tools or the surfaces so it wont stick
@bizgigj8204 жыл бұрын
Now you are more established and have pinned down your materials and techniques more firmly, it would be really nice to see you revisit your how to make xyz for cheap using these supplies videos. They were what first attracted me to your channel and it would be nice to see how you have improved on any recipes and what hasnt changed.
@rickhardmann66954 жыл бұрын
Really interested because it seems to take the Green Stuff Rollers really well. The one question I have is, does it shrink? I have been using DAS clay when I do interior floors on MDF buildings and warps the crap out of 2mm MDF, I am constantly using clamps to bring the warping to a minimum. I'd also love too see if this stuff works with home made acrylic terrain maps. To me rolling well is less of a concern if I can have semi modular roads and paths that ungulate over terrain. Other than a roller, could you use this stuff to do muddy dirt roads with wagon wheel ruts or is it just too firm and cant be cut with water?