I EXPOSED SUPERCAR DEALERSHIPS

[@dino_mk7537]

Thank God you posted this video. I was about to buy a gt3rs tomorrow, but after seeing this im gonna stay with my opel corsa

[@MarkoVukovic0]

🤣 and you're probably enjoying the Corsa more because you haven't been gouged on the price.

[@edwardiganz2478]

U sound like ur RocketPoweredMohawk. He loves his Corsa....

[@cristian333GTX]

Opel corsa is a good car dude, I own a Toyota Corolla 2020 SE edition and I’m happy with this little rocket my dream car is a McLaren P1 GTR or Pagani Zonda R, well just dreaming however it has fact is you feel happy what you drive dude, cheers bro.

[@arisgolseen2693]

Correction you can't lol

[@itstherealjammin]

hahaha great post

[@Mike-dn4ju]

I worked at a US Porsche dealer when the first 996 turbo dropped in 2000. Porsche reps came into the office and demanded to see the Purchase and Sale Agreement. They would’ve pulled the franchise if it was sold over list, or we refused to show the paperwork. The times they are a changing….

[@Nukerunin]

Corporate greed is at an all time high across all fields of desirable products. Even the high-end PC part market is screwed now because of crap like this. Such a shame. Will only get worse unless there's government intervention to drop the hammer on them and regulate their practices. However, that probably won't happen due to good ol' bribery.

[@MatthewC137]

It took just one generation for the average customer to lose his mind. This wouldn't be happening if that wasn't true. The world depicted in the movie Idiocracy arrived almost 500 years early.

[@geroutathat]

Yes but now porsche sells cars aimed at fleet buyers. The Panamera, The Macan, and the Cayenne are all bought as company cars. You probably didn't have people walk in back then and say "I need 20 Panamera for the board members, 15 Cayenne for the upper managment, and 25 macan for the upper middle management thanks" Thats what everyone is forgetting, these guys buying 5 porsche cars for a million and expecting to be up the list, yeah maybe 25 year ago, but now? Do you know what happens if you refuse the guy putting the fleet order through a gtr? he puts his order through with mercedes the next year and phones them up looking for an amg gt coupe and gets it.. Even Lexus did it, a cherry to dangle at the fleet buyers. Watch makers do it. You have to get to car brands that only do sports before having 4 or 5 will get you any sort of way up a list.

[@mosasako4679]

@@MatthewC137it didnt even took the last 10 years. The change in customer and hype behavior was and is fast

[@ZondaRbg]

Much more people are millionaires today vs 2000, don't forget that too.

[@H.A.R.D.I.K]

I understand from dealer perspective, but when you spend 2+ million a year and still cant buy the car you want sounds like a absolute scam.

[@al-aminhussain8052]

It is cause they are just rinsing your wallet 💯💯💯

[@CrankCyclingChannel]

You may aswell just buy one for overs and forget the dealer, would be cheaper.

[@lewmcfc]

Should be illegal. A lot of weird grey area exist in the uk which makes the rich richer seems like the whole system is rigged

[@Neil2022]

@@CrankCyclingChannelor don’t fall for the hype.

[@Br00sta]

@@CrankCyclingChannel Well yeah but it's not really overs though is it. Nobody can actually buy the car at the 'retail' price anywhere ever. The car should just retail at £350K and be done with it, and then everyone can decide if it's worth it vs the competition.

[@Czeslaw_cn4tv]

A few years ago I went to a Porsche dealership to configure a Targa. The salesman didn't seem at all interested in making a sale and couldn't even be bothered to find out when a slot would be available. I left and didn't come back. Watching videos like this really makes me re-evaluate my attitude towards this brand. Essentially appreciate the engineering and stay well clear of corporate which to me means 2nd hand market only. But I appreciate the pickle people wanting and being able to afford a GT3 find themselves in. It's not good for the brand image if they have to shove cars down people's throats while dangling a carrot in front of their eyes.

[@bigdisme5622]

can you imagine having to buy some POS low end Porsches then drive it around, then sell it take a loss, only to buy like 9 more POS versions just to get a 240k dollar car in the end LOLOL....Passs!!!!!

[@mjbowhunter]

just go to Barret Jackson and get the car you want, screw the dealerships

[@DepravityWriting]

Screw spending all that extra cash when you can just get Audi, BMW, Acura, etc

[@Iwo26]

I walked into a Porsche dealer in California looking to order just 911S. Salesman didn't even get up from behind the desk and started a conversation with "you know there is a markup." I left without a word. I can afford to buy a new 911, but I will never pay markup on anything.

[@makatron]

That's the right approach never pay markup.

[@cotog007]

Good man!

[@paulweber624]

Wait till a recession. I have the money and love how a Porsche base model 911 looks. in 2020 I was on Porsche's builder and at the end let it look at inventory for a match, which sent my info to the nearest dealer. In 15 minutes Porsche Chicago called. This was during the beginning of pandemic shut down - he would have given me a discount on that car. [edit - Iwo26 - props for handling the disrespect with grace].

[@MichaelElias-q2z]

There are barely ANY porsche 911s in the dealer inventories.

[@lesp315]

I bought a brand new 2014 Boxster S with $8K discount. I'm still driving it. I know it's nothing special, but it's a fun car to drive.

[@stephen9453]

It actually took me almost two thirds of the way through this video to realise that you made this whole video just to show Jayne to convince her that paying over list was the best thing to do. Well played Mark, well played sir...

[@lukepeeters5178]

this does seem like a self convincing video for himself haha

[@kc550]

Weird how you know the correct spelling of her name

[@AlexNicol2890]

@@kc550it’s weird you know how it’s spelled to be able to tell him that it’s weird that he knows how to spell her name

[@Keiferdrives]

@@AlexNicol2890 Jayne thinks it's weird too

[@pafsrh4744]

Either way people need to know how lost the system and big corporations are, they treat the people of the world with contempt, the very people they abuse to slime people's money from

[@shonen84]

The Swiss luxury watch brands - especially Rolex - have done this for years…it’s eerily similar. Thanks Mark for your journalism!

[@DJ_CJ_NL]

i thought exactly the same.

[@biffbifford402]

This is why Jay Leno doesn’t buy Ferraris. It’s also why I sold my Rolexes and won’t buy another.

[@Sicarius888]

But does Porsche also sell hot models through back door in bulk to grey market? Or do you need to check in every 2 weeks and be a simp for the salesperson? If not they still have a lot to learn from Rolex how to properly abuse groveling rich people.

[@biffbifford402]

@@Sicarius888 Haha. Spot on. 👍

[@JTMarlin8]

Yea but you gotta wonder why Rolex ADs don't just add dealer markup. It's because Rolex fixes the price at MSRP, so the only way for an AD to squeeze out more money is to put you on a perpetual waiting list unless you buy your new Sub alongside three Datejusts for you, your wife, and your mom. If Rolex and Porsche allowed dealers to markup above sticker, they'd just do that and forget about this buying 10 cars / 10 watches nonsense.

[@user-cm9kd3bw7y]

I drive 2007 honda , why did I suddenly feel worried about the process of getting GT3 RS ? 😅 Enough KZbin for today

[@Roccinante]

Buy a wagoneer L

[@herrfinke1]

AMEN

[@johnbaldock6353]

I had the SAME THING when i went to buy a Ford Fiesta! I had to buy 2 Coffees before he sold me the car!!Shocking.🤣

[@Mastermindthreethousand]

At least you got the ST ?!

[@johnbaldock6353]

@@Mastermindthreethousand I Wish. Just the bog standard trim.😢

[@dappergent9422]

Great post :)

[@Salpeteroxid]

The coffee is free at BMW dealerships lol. I have a used one and get a cup when do my alignment. I'm getting two cups next time because I'm fitting new wider tires and want an alignment after that.

[@neillchippett655]

Thats outrageous !! Think I would rather face the porsche dealers.

[@driveri1435]

I love cars my whole life. I hate the industry and 99% of the people in it. Thank you Mark.

[@TELE.GRAM--Mr_Mark_McCann.]

Thanks for the support I really appreciate you for being an active subscriber! I want us to discuss.

[@F3PIZZA]

I worked at a used dealership for 2 weeks. 18 yo. My best friend, basically my brother, had just taken his own life. One of the salesmen there saw me crying in my car on lunch break and found out from the boss what happened. This person had been hazing me from hour 1 of working there. He taunted me about my brother. Telling me his sole mission was to make me cry as much as possible -and I won’t repeat any if the things he said to me but think of the worst things possible. Everyone there was an asshole but nowhere near this level of pure evil. Fast forward some years and I’m the AGM of a gourmet market-basically a mini Whole Foods but over-the-top customer service and quality-and guess who walks in the door? My boss, the GM, knew my story and I took her aside and told her this idiot was in our store. She gave me permission to kick him out. I didn’t do it. He was with little ones, what I assumed to be his family including what I assumed to be a human wife; it was holding a baby. I’m not sure he even recognized me. It wasn’t worth giving his smiling, happy children that memory. I shared this because it’s kind of related and I want whoever reading this to do me a favor and go find someone you love, hug them, and tell you how much they mean to you. ❤

[@Lolatyou332]

Dealerships are just an unnecessary middle man for the most part other than when you want to test drive a vehicle.. You can get cars repaired by third-parties. Look at how large the dealerships are and the amount of employees.. It's just sucking so much money out of the system especially since they get commission. I'd rather just buy a custom spec online and not have to deal with dealerships.

[@kiethpederson7558]

Car dealers are scum

[@Thedonggobler]

@@Lolatyou332good luck buying from manufacturer 😂 yall dont know jack shit about buying super cars.

[@AndreiJikh]

Customers shouldn't have to grovel and beg by paying over MSPR. Consumers have power to vote with their dollars and we can put an end to these practices. Thanks for the video!

[@megane230f1]

reminds me of folk wanting certain rolexes wanting to be on waiting lists

[@SELFVERIFIED]

It's desperation to own something that not everyone can have. Customers have ego to fill

[@joefinnie666]

You are the last person I expected to see in the comments of this video 🤣

[@ThreeFiddy1701]

FOMO!

[@skippynj1979]

Or just get a Chevy stingray z06 for list price.

[@njirk52]

Good to see rich people also get scammed not just the working class

Met a bloke who got told he needed to buy 5 Cayennes and 5 Macans he could get one of these. Basically the deal was he would buy 10 cars in December, they would buy the cars back for 10% less in January, then he would be able to buy the car he actually wanted. He went through with the deal and sold the car immediately, still making 100k profit despite taking a bath on the SUVs

[@-Jason-L]

This is exactly the sort of buyer they don't want though. A flipper.

[@cyrusjones8326]

Moral of the story; dealerships are trash and we would all be better off without them. I’ve known this for years being a car enthusiast.

[@cbotten106]

You are starting to sound like Elon Musk. You might want to recalibrate.

[@mashoodch]

@@cbotten106atleast with tesla you know jow much ur paying

[@ChristopherPortorreal-ol2mj]

The company itself will sell you the Porsche not the dealers.

[@TimberWulfIsHere]

​@@cbotten106 because Elon knows what he is talking about? Cope harder.

[@absolutmo]

@@TimberWulfIsHere THAT'S WHY X IS FAILING and ask him about the mine industry inheritance

[@UKCheeseFarmer]

Finally the truth of the matter. Other KZbinrs fail to acknowledge. They like to pretend they were selected for the cars they lease to prop up their vulnerable egos and appear to make themselves important and special, as if they have a relationship with the manufacturer. Whereby they are in truth just idiots who are so desperate to own the vehicle before anyone else for the pure purpose of boasting in a video 'look what I have because I'm connected'. This is where you stand tall and proud amongst your peers Mark! You don't care what anyone thinks, nor need to portray yourself as special. You tell the truth and expose it for what it is. I for one truly appreciate your honesty and integrity. GREAT VIDEO!

[@Jonathan-cz4ky]

Some of them yea.

[@ThunderChunky101]

Some of them are though.

[@reiki-guy3894]

Prime example of the egotistical narcissist youtube "celebrity" is the king of jumpstarting his drag races and sulks like a petulant child, If he doesn't win, Mr 'carMATTwow' himself🤦🏻 You're ten times the genuine person he'll ever be, my friend 🙏🏻

[@BoomBox02]

11:13 "They said a better history with buying from us" I see now how these scammers take advantage of people in order to stay in business. These dealerships are run by pure scammers that want you to buy 10 cars from them, take expensive tours, and then backdoor you even after paying a deposit. I'd rather spend that money modifying something easily available and have the same handling and way more HP than anything in those dealerships. Also, you could have spent 1 billion dollars worth of Porshe's in the past from other dealerships, or private sales, but that dont mean anything because it dont help with their current sales quota's for the month. Thats why i believe some people get scammed. They are poor innocent souls just used by these companies in order to keep up with their sales quota's.

[@ThunderChunky101]

@@BoomBox02 It's how they work. See - the guy selling them for real prices.

[@Deathlikesensation]

So thats why so many people were buying Macans and Cayannes. You could buy it through your business, take the accelerated depreciation on your books and then sell it a year later. All the while building your "Portfolio"

[@cestusfr]

I go back to basics against these tactics. If a brand does not want to sell me their product at MSRP; they can keep it! If i have to jump through hoops; they can keep it! If i have no freedom to do whatever i want with my property once bought; they can keep it! There is enough cool cars in the world, old AND new, for me to find a way to enjoy myself! Stop the FOMO! To those who do not agree. You do you guys, just be happy with your choices. ^__-

[@andyrooot]

Yep I agree, I don’t understand how people can like a car so much that they get taken for mugs, this is nuts

[@NoFix]

Yeah u need to have a backbone, which unfortunately not many have.

[@spongesurf12]

Yes! This is the way. Don't like the game, stop playing. They do this because people still take them up on it. It's really unfortunate because companies could have an expanding customer base if they had methods to entice new people aboard with great products at great prices. If someone came out with a great drivers' car that looked like it cost a million but was really sub-$50K and readily available, they'd sell insane numbers and Porsche, Ferrari, etc. would see their business model cave in.

[@MrSeanman30]

When you have a collection of 50+ cars and have all of the cars you've dreamed of and money is no object, why not pay over to get it?

[@MrSeanman30]

Imagine our poor man perspective. You have 100+ hot wheels cars, every car you've wanted growing up. Then they come out with a model 2024 911 GT3RS Hotwheel. 😂 since there's only select stores that have them, I'd pay $5, $10, $25, maybe even $50 for it. Just to add to the vast collection I already have. Now think of that with real cars. Now throw in planes, yachts, manions etc. Unfortunately that's the way the cookie crumbles lol. Then you have psychos like the Sultan of Brunei and you have 5-20 of each model of car! And then customs versions of those too lmao. People have too much money!

[@chrissmith-gn8pv]

Marks now banned from buying a car from every porsche dealer in the uk 😂😂😂

[@tommy2wheels943]

He never had a chance anyway he is winning for the exposure

[@tommy2wheels943]

Ps if he likes my last comment he definitely don’t have a chance 😂 the problem everyone who can afford a gt3 rs still wants one 😅

[@chrissmith-gn8pv]

@tommy2wheels943 well he had a chance of buying a not so limited porsche if he wanted one...that's out the window now 🤣

[@MonicaHolly143]

​@@chrissmith-gn8pveveryone has a chance to have a not limited porsche

[@Chris-hw4mq]

Its easy porsche needs to sell the cars for more money the GT3 RS lets say 500k and this could end

[@michaelv6870]

Friend of mine bought over 30, yes 30, Ferraris over the last 25 or so years. . He bought the car according to their specs, never drove them, brought them back (got MSRP for them), they sold them as "Pre Owned" and took another guys head off price wise. This went on and on. He always wanted one of their HALO cars but never got one. He finally bought three new ones and sold them himself at a $ 400,000 profit. The dealership was freaking out but he told them to go screw themselves.

[@ThunderChunky101]

@loschwahn723 What is that in English?

[@markoz673bajen8]

Devil drives Ferrari. Kick this fool sell out.

[@mannye]

he meant "they're" I can't help you with the second half. @@ThunderChunky101

[@ThunderChunky101]

@@mannye don't....

[@mannye]

@@ThunderChunky101 Oh. Now I'm gonna. He meant they want to know that clones aren't gratuitous and full of vinegar.

[@Golfnutter]

Hey Mark, I just watched your video and couldn't agree more, especially given my recent experience here in the US. I'm an expat residing in San Francisco and have a story that echoes your points, but perhaps even more frustrating. During the Covid pandemic, I set out to purchase a Porsche GT3. Despite my efforts, I couldn't secure it from a Porsche dealership, so I ended up buying it from a local non-Porsche dealer. Keen to establish a relationship with the official service department, I visited the Porsche dealer, letting them know about my GT3 acquisition and expressing interest in a GT3 RS. The response was a bit disheartening, as the representative hinted at the difficulty due to my lack of a "Porsche history" with their dealership. I explained that this GT3 was my seventh 911, though my previous purchases were in the UK. Their insistence on a history with their specific dealership felt somewhat narrow-minded, but I understood their perspective. In a bid to strengthen this nascent relationship, I even purchased a Taycan from them - a fantastic car, by the way. Confident that this might put me in good stead, I asked to be put on the waiting list for the GT3 RS. I had low expectations but was willing to be patient. However, what came next was truly shocking. The representative mentioned that as a new customer, if I were lucky enough to get an allocation for a new car, I'd be required to pay an outrageous premium of $150,000 over the list price. This revelation was astounding and deeply disappointing. The notion of an authorized dealer demanding such a significant markup on a new vehicle was beyond belief. Needless to say, I was livid and expressed my displeasure quite vocally to both the representative and the dealership. Mark, your video didn't touch on this, but another crucial point to consider is the reason behind the limited supply of high-performance models like the GT3 RS. It's not just what Carl mentioned. A significant factor is the stringent emissions targets that manufacturers like Porsche must adhere to. These high-performance models are produced in limited numbers to maintain a balance with their overall vehicle emissions as a manufacturer. This experience and understanding the broader context of car manufacturing has left me deeply disillusioned. It's not just about the scarcity of these models; it's also about the tactics employed by dealerships. Porsche, as a brand, risks being tarnished by such practices. Their dealerships’ approach, especially in demanding unwarranted premiums, not only damages customer relationships but also undermines the brand's integrity. I'm sharing this in hopes that it brings more awareness to these issues and perhaps encourages a change in how these prestigious vehicles are distributed and sold. Thanks for shedding light on this topic, Mark. It's crucial for potential buyers to be aware of these challenges and for manufacturers to recognize the impact of dealership practices on their reputation.

[@justintoth5440]

Aww, sorry you couldn’t get your toy. I hope you still have the will to live

[@TheEngineer404]

How did you prove your purchase history to the dealership? Verbal or actual paperwork? Also owning multiple can sound like a flipper versus a longtime holder of vehicles.

[@johnnyronkonkoma5388]

@@justintoth5440 Lol that guy takes himself so seriously. Dude- you're buying a stupid overpriced car. The middle class can't afford a house, can't afford to have kids, can't afford medical insurance.

[@pistachiobandanos]

@@johnnyronkonkoma5388 what do you even know about him? He gave an excellent reply with additional insight. Why are you even here?

[@pistachiobandanos]

@@justintoth5440 peanut butter and jelly

[@dman1511]

Thank you for finally shedding some light onto this scumbag industry. I waited 9 years, worked hard, saved my money, invested wisely, just to buy a gt3 rs. Walked into the dealership and got laughed out the door by scumbags like this.

[@AmosDohms]

Buy used?

[@dman1511]

Looks like you missed the entire video? Used gt3rs's are being scalped harder than new ones...you gunna pay half a milly for a car that barely retails at a quarter mil>? All the power to you big man!@@AmosDohms

[@RustyZipper]

I’d love a GT3RS but honestly when are you ever going to fully enjoy that car’s potential? For far less money you can buy a more “modest” car.

[@AmosDohms]

@@dman1511 ? Looks like you can get RS's at auction for 200-300. Sure, bit of a markup, but at least you get the car.

[@TanChuFengRvhs]

I can't say I feel very sorry for you since the "list" is pretty common knowledge and it seems like you didn't do your homework. If you don't plan to build up a relationship with a dealer, why don't you try buying a 996 GT3 or a 991.1 instead? They're usually cheaper and still retain that "driving purity" (for the 996)

[@TheGoatfister]

I worked for Ferrari. The position in the order "List" means nothing and comes down to which individual established customer the Head of Business or General Sales Manager prioritises at the time of a production slot becoming available. The clients deemed to be the "big hitters" are talking to those guys, not a salesperson. And those preferred customers could be very very appreciative. Allegedly.

[@Team33Team33]

I worked under a man who is currently the head of Ferrari sales in his region. Needless to say that he was corrupt and dishonest when I worked for him and I hate to think how he sleeps at night now knowing the type of people he must be blackmailing because there is absolutely no doubt that he is. I realised this years ago and got him to buy ME a brand new car to keep my mouth shut and then resigned as soon as I was given the keys. Quite truly I think that is the one and only time this guy has been stung. I sold the car a few weeks later for a large profit and left him to pay it off. He learnt a lesson that year, but has obviously bettered his game as he is now a regional manager for Ferrari.

[@kfree8841]

@@Team33Team33 Imagine being that big of simp. Holy shit.

[@anthonya2286]

@@Team33Team33can I get the name? I also currently work for Ferrari and wonder if I’ve met him before lol.

[@Glyn69]

A list then

[@Team33Team33]

@@Glyn69 Yes. But as I wouldn't trust the man as far as I can throw him and aware of Ferrari antics once they have their greedy hands in your pockets, I'm afraid I'll pass. You are free to contat me if you would like to buy a car - I'll do that for you - then I will step way clear and you are on your own.

[@Whoareyoucalling]

This is why I love BMW, they make insane performance vehicles and you can walk right on in and spec out whatever you want, pay for it and pick it up in a few months. My M8 comp has been nothing but bliss.

[@xIcarus227]

This isn't an accurate comparison, the M8 Comp isn't a limited-edition car. Try buying an M4 CSL for example, you'll see that it has allocations like the GT3RS does.

[@Lolatyou332]

Yeah but BMWs break down and there aren't really any good looking BMWs TBH. Don't like BMWs at all, it's in a similar class as mercedes for me. Just older moms driving them basically as a status symbol other than the kids driving the older M3s

[@AJayZy]

A BMW is not a Porsche it’s not even close that’s the problem and like the other comment said if you tried to get a “special” car like the M4 CSL it wouldn’t be the same

[@xIcarus227]

​@@AJayZy honestly the difference between BMW and Porsche is nowhere as big as you make it sound. You ain't comparing Dacia to Mercedes here. While they have a similar 'drivers cars' ethos, Porsche has a more sporty focus which often means they don't achieve the sophistication that a luxury car needs (see the new 7-series vs Panamera). In fact with many competitive BMW/Porsche models, going to Porsche is often a tradeoff instead of a direct upgrade, especially if you're looking to spend about the same money. Perfect example: I own a Z4 M40i and plan to own a Boxster next. The Boxster GTS is the only model which is an actual upgrade, and it costs significantly more. On top of that, you gotta spend about 10k EUR on top on the leather interior to get a similar interior quality to the Z4, plus the options which are hella expensive with Porsche. Or you could get a Boxster T if you want to stay in the same price area, which honestly is a downgrade in practically every area aside from the raw feel. It's honestly a game of trade-offs, and I'm saying this as someone who prefers Porsche and as someone who drove these cars.

[@AJayZy]

@@xIcarus227 I was just talking 911 GT3 RS or the Cayman GT4. Absolute peak of car enthusiast in my opinion. That’s what I meant.

[@edward92128]

Matt Watson is the perfect example of ‘not what you know, who you know’. He got one without all the rigmarole

[@thecompanioncube4211]

@curtisjackson7814 Exactly. He’s is in the business to influence people to walk into the bears cave that is car dealerships. They’d make money even if they gave one to him for free

[@neilturner6749]

He’d most likely have got an allocation via his relationship with Porsche UKs own Press and VIP Team, not via any Dealers preferred client list.

[@wearetheremnants1615]

​@@curtisjackson7814 that's the same thing yes

[@AllglorytoGod000]

For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. J o h n 3 :16

[@philiprandall1399]

@@AllglorytoGod000 I didn't realise Matt Watson is the son of God, but it doesn't surprise me for he has many disciples and his Word is the truth. Just like his stick is. I believe in him and in every car review he does, and I am pleased to learn that this will lead me to everlasting life. Fun fact: This is the origin of the expression Prayer Matt.

[@2whl4re]

I talked with a Porsche dealer 3 days ago. There is a new car on their lot and a 4 month old CPO car. He would not sell me the new car, but he offered me the CPO. Reason? Because they want to sell the new car to someone they have a relationship with. Oh, and the CPO car is marked up almost $10k over it's original sticker - and higher priced than the new car - but is lower spec than the new one. I told them I'd shop elsewhere.

[@nasdoc1]

You did good. Respect!

[@kasroa]

Have you tried mindfulness and meditation instead? Blowing cash on giant toys won't make the bad thoughts go away.

[@2whl4re]

@@kasroa Have you tried not worrying about how people you don't know spend their hard earned money? Making judgemental comments won't make you cool.

[@johnsmith-fk7fw]

check mclaren, from what ive heard they dont do this and dont upsell you on stupid options either

[@KashKoala]

You probably don't need the machine that killed Paul Walker

[@zidan40o0]

man, this video is the physical meaning of "rich people problems".

[@markrotondella4689]

Yeah I was tearing up over the idea that some rich people can't just get what they want.

[@permianplantworks5834]

when this economic concept trickles down to Bananas... it'll no longer be a rich person problem. Keep your eyes and ears open.

[@hagestad]

not to mention the guy does not see his hipokryccy. His buddy offers him a car under the condition he will buy it back at the same price but no he want's a car that he can make easy money on not the actual car.

[@VenomizedZilla]

@@hagestad His buddy isn't even his buddy lol. He's playing the same game the dealer is. Hes a gray market seller, selling for way over retail. Its the same game with certain Rolex sports models.

[@zeldadahedgehog]

im just happy i was finally able to buy a PS5 for market price lol

[@mba9565]

Mark your content is top class mate. Love your transparency and honesty

[@MarkMcCann64]

Appreciate the support

[@iordanisG]

so true, keep it up

[@CGCTV]

Sounds like car dealerships are taking a page out of the watch industries book. I remember when you could just walk into a dealership and order a 997 GT3 with out any issues.

[@MarkMcCann64]

Yeah, my mate said the same with Rolex apparently

[@al-aminhussain8052]

Wait when was this?

[@wrightracing11]

You can. It’s the RS you can’t buy.

[@andrew_owens7680]

I was going to say. I'm a modest watch collector and find that I can get very good values in the used market if I stay away from a few brands. That said, I'm not backed up with invitations to black tie affairs because of my Richard Mille collection. At this level of consumption, there has to be more than the thrill of driving the car. I would want to leverage ownership to get membership in a club where they pipe insider trading information into my ear all day long.

[@gunman8452]

Back then a GT3 would be well below the list price as well, you'd rarely hear anyone buying them at msrp.

[@brothatwasepic]

I honestly had no idea that you can't walk into a dealership and buy the car of your choice

[@carpediem4512]

Not a supercar. Forget about it. Don’t blame the dealers, blame the so called flippers.

[@janbo8331]

@@carpediem4512Flippers wouldn't have a business if these cars were not restricted in this way by the dealers. If people could buy it at list price, how could a flipper get a 100k mark-up?

[@904_glizzy9]

@@janbo8331 could be because theres not enough to go around?

[@Romans8-9]

@@janbo8331 Theyre restricted because those cars are rare. If they allowed to sell their cars to flippers, regular people who legitimately want a supercar to drive and keep wouldn't be able to buy any from a dealership. The exact same thing happens with Rolexes.

[@janbo8331]

@@Romans8-9After watching the video it should be pretty clear that people can't buy these cars from dealerships either. They keep them rare to sell a bunch of cars people don't want. That was the whole point of the video series...

[@ISH00700]

Hi Mark I really love the variety of your content, I first saw you on Mat's channel I think you guys were racing your Lamborghini's which yours proved to be the fastest probably as you are the best driver. So I'd just like to give you a big thumbs up 👍🏼 .I've watched a lot of your videos in quite a short period, so keep on making your amazing Vid's, I looking forward to watching many more!! 👍🏼👍🏼

[@charlesrogers8420]

I’m enjoying watching my local Porsche dealers inventory fill up on the lot.😂

[@AstroEtherealDiscovery]

Same here

[@ian_987]

Thing is, it will be the cheap Macans and unwanted Taycans returned at the end of their PCP. They will never struggle to move the halo cars.

[@user-gl2eq2ly4g]

Me too Greedy bastards

[@mieshta6607]

No you’re not. Porsche hasn’t delivered any cars to dealers in months. They’re all stuck at port. Dealers are buying Taycans tho and those are not selling in the slightest.

[@mieshta6607]

@@ian_987all the cars are stuck at port anyway no dealer has received any 911’s or anything nice other than Macan and Taycan since Christmas

[@abraxaseyes87]

My uncle would say"a fool and his money are soon parted"

[@sportbikejesus]

You think he sounds cool. Only sounds poor and jealous

[@jesseraphael2423]

@@sportbikejesusnobody is jealous bro, stop coping

[@Clingclongclay]

7:20 she is a fantastic sales person and lays out the key points of buying the trade in over building a portfolio in a way that attracts closing the deal so fast. I would have said "Okay you got me" right there.

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Really brilliant, well-produced video. Congratulations guys.

[@NeilNBlome]

These Porsche dealers should be introduced to criminal prosecution for fraud

[@jimtaylor431]

I don't see what's fraudulent about it. Surely it's up to them to decide who they sell to. If you don't like it, go and buy a different car from somewhere else. I presume it's to try and weed out the people who want to come in and buy the car and just immediately flip it for profit whereas Porsche would rather sell to loyal customers who want to actually keep and enjoy the car, or as mentioned in the video, be ambassadors for the brand. I can't really blame Porsche for that. But also similarly just let people with too much money, spunk it away giving it to Porsche for the 'cachet' of owning one of these halo cars.. it's their money, let them throw it away. The same crap happens all over the place with 'luxury' brands.. just go and walk into a Rolex store and try and buy something other than a generic / higher volume piece. They won't sell anything to you.

[@NeilNBlome]

Yeah. It's fraud to screw stupid rich people out of their money however satisfying for the rest of us it is to see.@@jimtaylor431

[@Fabianwew]

Where's the fraud lol?

[@gmain1977]

People choose to pay the money

[@GrifonXT]

Take Costco to the court, they sells annual memberships

[@subarujock]

Great video Mark. I tried a heap of Porsche dealers to get a Cayman GT4RS at list but had no joy. I have also tried to get a GT3 at list but again a massive waste of time, I was constantly directed to the used GT3's on the forecourt at ridiculous overs. Despite being cracking cars, this experience has massively put me off Porsche. These dirty tactics have driven me a way from the brand even though the forecourts are filling up and the prices are coming down. Keep up the good work Mark. It passes my down time here on an oil rig offshore Africa.

[@Michael-Masi-911]

In which country did you try to buy these cars?

[@subarujock]

UK, all dealers in Scotland then worked my way south but eventually got the message that I was wasting my time.@@Michael-Masi-911

[@subarujock]

In the UK, every dealership in Scotland then worked my way southwards but quickly realised I was wasting my time. Like many other prospective buyers, Porsche don't need my money so I'll spend it elsewhere.

[@mg-by7uu]

Same here. I bought a couple GT3's from a dealer. They offered me a GT4 RS...for 150k over sticker. I never spoke to them or any Porsche dealer again. I maintain my own Porsches, and I never purchase cars from Porsche.

[@Michael-Masi-911]

@@mg-by7uu ouch. 150k would have me pretty angry also.

[@allroaddaily]

Porsche was always one of my favorite brands for building ultimate driving machine but this sales scam really makes me rethink about this brand.

[@GumiSlauh69o]

Its the dealerships and the people who buy 10 cars from it to own a gt3 rs, we made this flaw ourselfs. They smell money they do everything to take it from you

[@Jonathan-cz4ky]

What does this have to do with Porsche lmao these are dealerships….

[@urethaneslanger]

its because people are willing to pay over msrp. if no one did, no one would try and profit off it. porsche wants these cars in the hands of people who will use them so this is one way of doing it.

[@pinkpyro]

😂 yeah I’m sure they are bothered about your thoughts buddy

[@mrlooneycooney8948]

What did you expect from a VAG product 😅 they scam people for decades

[@theexecutioner3510]

Thank god for exposing this scam. I cannot even dream of affording one and knowing that many rich people can't get it, makes me so relieved.

[@WizzardPrang]

The reason their showrooms have such big windows? So they can see you coming. Seriously, great video Mark, that's unbelievable.

[@laportlaportlaport]

This is a huge problem and needs to be resolved. The common man will eventually become so tired of not being able to buy a gt3rs that no worker will continue their job and the economy will come to a standstill.

[@barryschwarz]

No doubt workers' strikes are soon to occur.

[@shedtime_au]

Wizard of Id: Sire, the peasants are revolting! King of Id: I know ...

[@hottuberrol968]

It’s the drug dealers I feel sorry for. Can’t walk in with a suitcase of cash and buy what you want.

[@Chris-sm2uj]

envy is a terrible thing

[@valebliz]

@@Chris-sm2ujridiculing bootlickers like you is a mission.

[@enhanzhao]

This culture with luxury car brands is the reason why I will keep my 86, STI, GR Corollas even if money wasn't a problem (I manage IT for multiple dealerships, Ive driven them all). Fun to drive? Yes. Repair and upgrade myself? Yes. Easily replaced? Yes. Imagine being rich enough to buy 10 Porsches and still being treated like trash by the business that you keep afloat by being a customer.

[@Jez4prez1]

Certain STI models are appreciating anyway hehe. And you are right, they treat their customers very well. The Subaru CEO even said he just wants to make cars that make people happy. They have topped multiple surveys for customer satisfaction. Sure, they're not super cars, but they're great cars non-the-less and fun to work on (easy to work on, lots of parts), cheap (relative to luxury brands), they''re great all rounders (used in many different forms of motorsport, like rally, time attack, drag, circuit racing etc), have a rich history in motorsport (with WRC) and in general are good enthusiast vehicles. Toyota likewise is a very good brand also.

[@Cuzzazbuzz]

So avoid Porsche. Noted. Time will be a cruel mistress.

[@brianbarriger8553]

Great job Mark!!!! My good friend just took delivery of his Porche 911 Targa this past weekend. $179K. This is his 3rd Porche in a row with the same Chicago dealership. He left me a voicemail that his delivery experience with the new GM was terrible, and he is reaching out to the State Attorneys General office today on this. I can't wait to hear the juicy story. Will keep you posted. 👍

[@Tune2Race_]

How did Mat Watson get an allocation???? He hasn’t bought any other new Porsches… it’s all a fix

[@y99abu]

My thoughts exactly

[@airgun_addict]

Maybe because he is a motoring journalist and could say nasty things about their cars in his reviews?

[@danielgrice9188]

@Tune2Race Mat Watson has a few older Porsches such as a 1999 911 996 which is 24 years old however I am thinking of the exact same question of how Mat Watson got a allocated a brand new GT3 RS. Shmee150 can’t get a brand new GT4 RS when he has had more modern Porsche than Mat Watson because Shmee has had a 981 GT4, 991 GT3, Taycan Turbo S and 718 GT4.

[@nicklassjoblom4042]

Massive social presence. He made a video customizing it as well, probably in the deal for him to get the allocation. That video alone probably made 100+ more people buy into the stupidity of this scam, all profit and hype for Porsche

[@jkliao6486]

Even as evil as a car dealers, the last thing you want to do is to upset a man on one of the biggest internet platforms with close to 9 million subscribers and risk him saying don't go to whatever dealer you are in because it's rigged. That is a one-way ticket on a space shuttle to absolute destruction.

[@josharrakal9755]

Thank you Mark for showcasing this side of the dealerships that isn't widely spoken about on social media. It's disgusting to me, that such reputed brands are being so petty and hypocritical to make that extra cash at the expense of their valuable customers.

[@galaxiedance3135]

I wont even bother stepping foot in a Porsche Dealership then. If I want something nice like that, I'll just find exactly what I want and buy it off of someone. Saves me from buying all kinds of vehicles and I just jump to the car that I want. Good video!

[@Father-klovkoski]

And since you have no loyalty to a dealership, you can just sell the car private party again at a fair price rather than selling back to the dealer at msrp

[@Lolatyou332]

How to make cars not be able to be flipped: 1. Make more of the cars 2. Make the car more expensive to match demand I don't see why flipping is even an issue for dealers it makes no sense to me.

[@Nikwalenda]

Exactly, these barstewards are trying to increase demand like rolex

[@ChristopherPortorreal-ol2mj]

For the 911 st Porsche will make you lease it for a year before it's transferred to your name that way people won't just flip them for a profit

[@ItsJones]

I would've laughed my way out of those all those dealers. No matter how much i would want that car, I'm not playing those hilariously stupid games.

[@dlj1285]

I’m with ya, but the reality is they do not care. The whole thing is such a turn off that, for me, it makes the brand less desirable.

[@marc24rennen]

The reason that these dealers can continue to do so is because Porsche, the brand you love, doesn't really care about you, the customers. It is that simple.

[@iankuah8606]

They are in business to make money and they have this down to a fine art!

[@nicerides9224]

No the reason they can do this is because people put up with this sort of crap to buy the cars that porsche dangles in front of them. People with self respect wouldn't buy 10 cars they don't want just to buy one car they do want.

[@myp0h]

Stop being a brand loyalist. If we pull our money from porsche then they will be straight with us. As long as you remain loyal to a brand and give them your money they will screw you over. Aaple does it, Samsung does it, and farari and porsche are doing it.

[@myp0h]

​@@nicerides9224nicely put 👌

[@TQu46]

Maybe in the uk but not in germany. We do such dealership tests since 30years here in germany and expose them on TV. Porsche dealers are always the best of all! While Audi and BMW always the worst.

[@Kalus_Saxon]

13:28 they know their customers have more money than sense 😂

[@orwellianyoutube8978]

that should be ilegal, crazy wild.

[@Dante3X]

🔥💯💪🏾

[@foam27]

I would never do business with a company that operates this way. There is simply too many other options out there that have much more respect for the customer.

[@nyashamutsauri2190]

That lady that called you back and told the cheaper way of buying that car is smart

[@iankuah8606]

Honest more like!

[@stevemiller1626]

She laid it out. Described it as portfolio A would lose less in depreciation than portfolio B. Smart.

[@y2rhf]

It's called dealer mark up in USA.

[@hardlife507]

She was being very analytical and made sense.

[@JTMarlin8]

Significant dealer markup is common - Toyota 4Runner and Tundra TRD Pros, Ford Raptors, latest gen Corvette, etc. If Porsche allowed their dealers to markup significantly above sticker, they'd just do that instead of making you buy 10 cars.

[@CarefulHowYouStep]

its not about the money, theyre getting that extra money regardless. its about the status of their company. whoever buys a porsche is seen as a representative of the company.

[@jaypatersonrepresenter4632]

This almost sounds like what the U. S Ford, Chevy, Dodge was doing with Pick up trucks a couple years ago. Lies Lies Lies, they where selling $50,000 trucks for $110,000. You ordered a vehicle, left a deposit, then the dealer sales the truck right from under you to the next customer who was willing to pay $30-$50,000 over. Dirty Game!!!

[@DemarcusQ]

1:26 Does it count for second hand buyers? 😅 😂

[@jeffv3296]

Scarcity is a powerful dynamic. Many high end watch brands are doing the same thing. MSRP doesn’t mean anything. An item is worth what people are willing to spend on it regardless of what its MSRP is. If a Porsche is going for $350k on the secondary market-it’s a $350k car. Are you going to insure it for $250k if replacement value is $350k? Dealers have found out that it’s better to offer these rare items to their best customers at a discount to what the secondary market is commanding instead of just charging anybody and everybody the full market value. I don’t like it as it seems wrong and greedy-but everybody interviewed in this video (the Porsche salespeople a well as that luxury car dealer) was brutally honest about the situation.

[@breakit46]

They have the cars at the top of the range, the limited, the almost one offs, if they sold them they would no longer have their pull and carrot for customers to walk in the door. This system is a total con and the customers are weak minded to play a long with it. Buying into a gullible club. Brilliant video, great insight. Hope you get the car it’s a stunner.

[@Jeff-kp5ng]

I bought my GT3RS in 2016 without any of these issues. I’m so glad I’ve sold it since and moved to manufacturers who don’t play this game while selling 100 variations of the same exact same car haha.

[@saltybmxer6977]

The quality of your content is truly professional. From concept, to writing, to filming and final product. Amazing job.

[@chrisz1155]

Now, I feel really good that I no longer fancy super cars anymore. It’s too much work to make the car enjoyable. Thank you for the video!

[@jordanliddard4164]

Sounds like Rolex to me 🤣

[@maxdehaas6776]

Any high end watch brand even.

[@originalforgery]

There's better and more exclusive watch's. Why buy a Rolex when most folk think you bought it from a bloke in Camden Market...

[@tom4626]

Honestly it’s not - Porsche dealers are actively buying GT3RS and sharing in the scalping profits

[@AllglorytoGod000]

For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. J o h n 3 :16

[@ryand4533]

That’s exactly what it is. Took them a while to catch on but it’s the same scam. Which they know doesn’t matter to the wealthy. They want what they want and will pay what ever they have to.

[@danielbeecher4482]

If I'd done absolutely everything and spent millions at a loss and still not got 1 I think I'd just sell them all and never buy a porka again. Great video mark.

[@antonv5488]

And where would you go? Ferrari or McLaren?

[@nmdc93]

But then there's 100 other people that have spent more than you, they should take priority as they are bigger supporters of the brand. So that's why you still might not get an allocation.

[@MadazzaMusik]

Porka luv it

[@d.a.s.3921]

Gosh, I don't blame the dealership so much as I blame the stupidity of the consumers.

[@chrisjie2127]

A fool and their money are soon parted.

[@yinyangsaladgang8789]

I bet you posted this from your iPhone.

[@itzsaccoo]

@@yinyangsaladgang8789what’s your point

[@Chris-sm2uj]

@@yinyangsaladgang8789 I bet you posted this from your iPhone.

[@tjmmcd1]

Jay Leno said the reason why he has no Ferrari's in his massive collection is for the same reason. Dealers force you to first commit and purchase several of their lessor model cars before they allow you the 'privilege' of buying a new, desirable, top-end model. Apparently, Porsche is now following Ferrari's footsteps.

[@Brian.Jones.310]

Jay Leno only has problems with Ferrari. He was vocal against Ferrari and their business model but somehow praised Ford when they used the same business model to select the customers for the 2017 Ford GT. Also, Lamborghini dealers did this back in 1988, they only sold the 25th anniversary Countach to those who bought a LM002 from them. They did this because the LM002 wasn't selling well as nobody wanted that car. McLaren also followed the same business model as they asked prospective customers of the Senna to buy the 720S.

[@trevluvscarsb6380]

Crazy bonkers world we live in. Its just a car, a very good one, but just a car. Thanks for exposing such a ridiculous money making scam. Amazes me that there are people with so much money they don't even mind being treated like a mug!

[@Quanters]

I love this series and it’s been a real eye opener. Keep it coming and well done Mark

[@JoshuaHouk]

In an age of unintended ambiguity, this was a remarkably clear take on 'klout' chasing at the highest levels. Great presentation, story-line, and positivity in the face of staggering stupidity. Subscribed.

[@slubilex1792]

Even though I'll never have the money to buy one, tysm for teaching us this. Dealers really try and take every piece of crumb out of your pocket

[@DoubleDeckerAnton]

Love these 'exposing the industry' videos Mark. Your taking your channel to another level, similar to 'Jayemm', exposing everything too. Fab insight. 🤗 💯👍

[@MikalHarringtonBrown]

"You can do what ever you want cause it's yours" .... Except if you own a Ferrari lol

[@Slowjo369]

7:09 yeah man ! Should have asked WHY DO I NEED TO BUY OTHER CARS TO BUY THE CAR I WANT 😂

[@fenypoo]

owning a “couple Carrera GTs” and still not getting an invitation might be the craziest thing I’ve ever heard

[@brucecameron6910]

Congrats for hitting the 200k followers sir! Now time for 500k a totally underrated KZbinr in the car space.

[@MarkMcCann64]

Thank you

[@brucecameron6910]

Very welcome sir. Love the noise off the rot box! Need some more of the please!!

[@Erwinbonkington1]

Yes sir 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@brucecameron6910]

@@Erwinbonkington1 i always use sir. How i was brought up.

[@douglassloan6831]

I watched the same thing happen with Ferrari back when I was buying exotics. My dealership, even though I had purchased 2 Californias, a 430, and an F12, would not spec me a 458 Aperta. And the manager is and was a great friend. He was just doing what he was told. I later found out that they actually rejected one of the stars of the L.A. Lakers for the same car because his portfolio wasn't impressive enough. It's mind blowing. But, they all do it and customers continue to pay the overs.

[@Cornelius-f9u]

Can we please be proud of your self for getting him to 200k

[@MarkMcCann64]

Thank you, it’s a great milestone

[@Abz-dp8fo]

Yeah Well done mark🥳🥳🥳

[@calvin1966vintage]

I tried to buy a new Volvo in the UK, but many car dealerships these days don't sell cars, they sell PCP and a warranty....from new. So that's nearly £1,000 a month to effectively hire your car for 3 years, plus insurance, VED, servicing, wear & tear. Nearer £1250pcm. £42 a day, even if you don't use it. Park at an airport for your two week holiday and 'your' car costs you £588 + parking fees, to just sit there. Madness I'll never understand.

[@redsmudgeYT]

Corruption at its finest. A great nod to the dealerships at the end there Mark 😂

[@YSF_B28]

corruption? did you even watch the video its to prevent scalping, get mad at scalpers and car flippers not porsche

[@redsmudgeYT]

@@YSF_B28 Reason doesn’t justify dishonesty and bribery, which by definition is corruption 👍

[@YSF_B28]

@@redsmudgeYT brand loyalty, not briber

[@billB101]

@@YSF_B28 Did you even watch the video, the whole high end model scam is to make you buy more of their cars to get on a list to buy the car you actually want. Porsche make a lot more money this way. It's a fear of loss hustle.

[@Brian.Jones.310]

The dealership isn't forcing anyone to buy their cars in the first place.

[@DaveSurreyUK]

I've bought close to 20 Porsches now, but unfortunately have bought from multiple dealerships as I've sometimes just gone to whoever has a particular car I like in stock. I stopped buying from Hatfield after falling out with them, (I think I bought 6 from them), but despite having also bought 1 car from Mayfair, 2 from Reading and my 2 most recent cars from Guildford (so well into double figures with PRG dealerships), I can't get a place for any GT cars as brand loyalty doesn't count, it's only loyalty to an individual dealership that potentially gives one a place on the elite list. I've also bought 3 cars from Dick Lovett, 1 from `Sytner and a couple from Ashgood. I wouldn't buy to sell, but having one of the rare cars would be a real treat! It bugs me that vloggers get the cars with no interest in brand loyalty, whereas people like me don't get a look in.

[@MrSilverfish12]

That is ABSOLUTELY INSANE. You´re telling me you bought 20 Porsches and you can´t get an allocation for a GT3RS? I thought Ferrari made clients do the run around but WOW.

[@markstewart7559]

They’ve taken customers like you for a mug. I do hope you won’t be any more Porsches? (Not that this matters one bit to to Porsche).

[@dimitrilikissas]

Why don't you go to Stuttgart and go speak with them about this?

[@fabledreamor]

Brand loyalty is bullshit. Money talks.

[@jamborino2940]

Ultimately it sounds like you're the ideal customer to them though, you buy their cars regardless of how you're treated and they don't have to give you any VIP treatment as you still go back for more.

[@speedhunters4606]

Huge balls for making this video, absolutely amazing. Ps, you’re probably never going to get a GT3 RS after this 😂

[@18T220]

Make the MSPR so that the car makes profit, seems simple and people will still pay.

[@Meowhsss]

The system is not flawed, it’s working perfectly for all of the manufacturers and also the secondary market.

[@carreragt8516]

Porsche itself wanted the cars to go to customers who use them. This isn’t a PORSCHE problem. It’s a PORSCHE GB problem. Two different things

[@mauricetoussaint7283]

It's flawed. If you don't understand that, man you must be dumb.

[@AtlasMufasa]

@@carreragt8516yeah i see it like you too. Here in Germany there is nothing like this

[@joe718gt4]

​@AtlasMufasa Unfortunately it's pretty bad in the US unless you front a ton of cash

[@Romans8-9]

@@joe718gt4 Nope, you could walk in with suitcases full of cash and they will not sell you without buying history.

[@tishnash007]

Luck for me, I won’t ever have this problem. 😂

[@Markknightexeter]

This should go viral! Surely this violates some kind of consumer rights!

[@andrehunter1295]

Operation like mafia, it's corruption. They don't even hide it, strange that customers don't have any rights. I see some celebrities get their dream car, something really wrong with this monkey buisness...

[@BatmanvsJesus]

Oh boo Hoo, they won’t accept my $400,000 to buy a super car. It’s so unfair. Bro if these are problems… 😂😂😂

[@_Root_Beer]

Sounds like the luxury watch market. Try walking into a Rolex AD and asking for a Daytona 😅

[@andywmoffat]

Or any SS Sports model - unless you buy a stack of Tudors and Omegas you don't stand a chance, and even then you won't get a Daytona unless you 'are someone'.

[@DaveD2rby]

That’s the same boyz Hype And dangle a cherry

[@ThreeFiddy1701]

Out of thousands of other fine watches out there and all you do is ask for a Daytona or a Submariner (yawn) then more fool you. You are just being a sheep and the AD's can instantly tell you are easy to scam into playing their game to feed into the grey market.

[@poccipo]

I never bought what I did not want ang got 3 SS Professionals but not a Daytona. It's also about building the right relationship with the AD@@andywmoffat

[@mikedenkinger9570]

Yup same game. Same players.

[@Synthesis..]

The shadiest trick wasn’t mentioned. Here in the US when Porsche dealerships get an allocation that hasn’t been sold yet they will contact one of their big customers to come down and buy the car outright. Then the customer sells it directly back to them for what they paid but now since the title has switched hands they can now list it as a CPO with a massive markup. I’ve seen that twice within the last couple months at my local Porsche dealership and they are a smaller one. They had a CPO Dakar with 10 miles for 430k and a GT3 with 22 miles for 300k.

[@derin111]

Very interesting! A friend of mine has just bought/taken delivery of a 992 4 GTS in the USA. With the scam those dealers are pulling can you explain what's in it for that 'customer' that they are getting to buy it and immediately sell it back? Do they slip them part of the profit or does it enhance their rating/score on the list? Cheers.

[@jonathanwelke]

Rolex is literally doing this exact same thing.

[@Blankslatefilms1]

@@derin111yes you get a cut of the profits, they commission it back and both parties make money.

[@bertwhetstone3173]

Why do they go through that rigamarole? They could just sell the allocation for the amount of the markup to a customer who then buys the car.

[@Driftmonkey]

@@bertwhetstone3173 I suppose to avoid the MSRP prices? It's not a "new" car anymore, it's used therefore MSRP won't apply so now they can just the price up to market/whatever price they want?

[@craigharper247]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 "I even bought the umbrella. ...." 😂😂😂😂😂

[@RD-wg2nt]

The luxury watch industry is exactly the same. Try going into Rolex to buy a watch…

[@bradshsi]

Sounds like 1st world problems. I'm almost tearing up ;) Seriously, the OEMs can do this only because enough people are willing to play. Failing to own a GT3 RS is not an existential threat...

[@AllglorytoGod000]

For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. J o h n 3 :16

[@Anonymous-cx1lr]

First time watching this channel, this video was so well put together

[@powerslider30477]

This is a much needed and well put together video. And next time put your friend Watson on the spot about the gt3rs when you are on carwow.

[@OGYZuko]

I support the dealer 100% after watching this. Its a business. Obviously theyre going to sell the rare cars to the dudes that loyal and buying from them. The ego on this guy and others. damn. Nobody should be spending over 100k on a car anyway unless you really just dont care about anyone. Money could be used so much more effectively. Anyone trying to waste this much money SHOULD be taxed. get rekt

[@darrenboston342]

I had the exact same issue with Porsche Nottingham two years ago…. Walked in spoke to the receptionist & said I’d like to purchase a new car, what car she asked…a 911.2 GT3 RS with Weissach package, I’ll get a sales mane for you. Then this jumped up little 🔔 end comes over in his mother care tight fitting suit & asks straight away have you had a Porsche before… No I’m treating myself as it’s my 50th. That’s ya problem he replied, then he went on about I should have bought Porka’s before then sold them back to the dealer etc etc…. After about 5 mins of him telling me what I should have done I tore the little C**T a new one in the showroom about the way in which he was talking to me, next thing I know is two 🐷 rock up & ask me to leave as I’m causing a scene!! After I’d explained what had happened one of the 🐷 I walked off in disbelief!! Wanting to spend that amount of money & not on finance either I thought fcuk the lot, so 3 weeks later I purchased 5 acres of land & built 6 stunning 5 bed homes. These dealers are W*****S & want striking off the lists!!

[@Speedking2022UK]

Classic sounds about right

[@jacob1029]

Don't understand the problem, car is limited and they only want to sell it to regular customers. Don't like it go somewhere else or do something different as you did..bit childish making a scene.

[@tylercollins9323]

@@jacob1029 its about the dealership network as in how many cars you have bought from the SAME dealership and not multiple.

[@CobnutVTS]

See this confuses me with porsche, i havent got through the entire video but matt watson got a gt3 rs and i dont think hes been buying 10 odd cars from the same dealer per year? apologies if its explained throughout the video but just thought it was worth pointing out

[@XaSxDAVE]

Perhaps he hasn't bought x amount of cars but it's actually a clever allocation from Porsche due to the free marketing it provides. That will be why he got one.

[@jonlincoln6069]

He got his because of being a KZbinr pure & simple, He will have struck a deal with Porsche where he will put it in a certain amount of videos and content as it’s basically free advertising for Porsche , All the car KZbinrs who are successful have relationships with manufacturers

[@michaelsanger8327]

these practices doesn't seem legal to me under UK/EU law. I mean remember the fuzz when Microsoft had the audacity to bundle internet explorer with windows?

[@Moonkyx]

The epitome of first world problems

[@Legend57.]

If enough porsche customers started making videos and instagram posts saying they've been denied buying GT3s and GT3RSs coz they refuse to buy other cars, porsche would fix this over night. But aslong as people stay quiet coz they don't wanna "rock the boat" or piss of their dealers, they'll keep getting shafted.

[@russell6075]

Yea this issue makes no sense no way Porsche would be happy to lose sales

[@Legend57.]

​@@russell6075 1. This is a very ideal situation for them. Instead of selling one car they sell 5-10 cars. GT products are just marketing tools inorder to sell the other products. It's like subaru and the WRX STI and BRZ. 2. Everyone is either quiet or only talking about it amongst themselves and or in forums so there's no media traction. This means they can afford to sit back and let things go on as they are. 3. When it comes to track focused and sportscars in general, no one does it better than porsche. They're light, reliable both on and off the track, rock solid so you can beat on them all day, get up the next day and continue beating on them. They look good and last but not least, they hold their value really well. I don't think there's any sports or supercar that can do this. Most of them only look good and do really well as street cars. They are mediocre on track coz, fall apart the second you start beating on them, some fall apart while parked and some weigh more than most mountains s/o to clarkson.

[@pauldavies7251]

​@@russell6075they'd never lose sales, There's more customers than cars

[@Sm00thieK]

@@pauldavies7251 That's changing fast with cars like Tesla who doesn't have a middleman dealership and still beats a 911, even with a Truck. Wait till the Roadster 2.0 comes out, Tesla's actual supercar. It will be the day of reckoning for all the supercars out there, mark my words.

[@LateBrake8]

@@Sm00thieK wrong demographic bud. no one here gaf about ev's

[@andrewhurstcars]

Carl is right, ultimately it’s cheaper to just pay overs for a car than to play the game with a dealership for the chance that you might get the chance to buy one.

[@CoolHand273]

Yes but if you want it customized to your spec that is going to be a problem. The "overs" always has to cover the sellers sales tax at least here in the US and whatever premium the market insists upon. With Rolex it is worse the models you are forced to buy literally have no resale value. Its just better to buy the piece you want at a markup if you absolutely need it now. I do see prices of secondhand rolex going down probably due to money problems in China and to some extent here. I guess I am not rich enough to really bother. I cannot figure out what the fuss is about the Porsche GT cars. I have owned my 911 GTS for many years now but I don't really know what is special about them. It is nice to have a car that doesn't depreciate as much as a BMW or MBZ but still. They just seem to be cars that mid tier doctors, dentists, and lawyers drive.

[@andywmoffat]

Pay 'overs' and then the bubble bursts... probably not likely with the RS, but it happened to the GT3.

[@irfuel]

Can you imagine paying 250+k for a car and not even being able to spec it the way you want? We're not talking some second hand Ford here ....

[@myp0h]

I laugh at the sillyness of any man who allows a company (like porsche) to treat them like fools. Hahaha

[@gmain1977]

​@@myp0hhe bought 3 Taycans!!!!! Why didnt he check how much he would get for them before he bought them

[@Cooperish]

Super informative video mate. Looks like the only chance I'll have for a GT3 RS is to get Matt Armstrong to rebuild a salvage one 😅

[@Brian.Jones.310]

Or just to do what the lady said over the phone call, pay overs.

[@felixgarcia2184]

Just to remind everyone. Mark is NOT suicidal.