I felt so dumb for not realizing what this students problem was sooner

[@jalalalap-akalala]

This guy on 120 ping still reacts faster to neaces instructions than most other clients

[@bleachmark9816]

Man looks like he mained jg at some point with his precision of camps and stuff for the most part, or at least watched some videos on it at some point

[@pqnet84]

he also has 120 ping on the voice call, so he hears instruction later

[@glenndiddy]

That's mostly because of the massive brain delay some clients seem to experience

[@jalalalap-akalala]

@@glenndiddy yeah it's like they have to process everything he says then they still get it wrong.

[@cupidok2768]

Whats the problem

[@timmyotoole6063]

i've never seen neace so invested. he's really rooting for this guy. it's actually so depressing to be stuck in rural kentucky with garbage net

[@bosscus]

Rural Kentuckian here. This shit fuckin sucks 😂

[@clo8076]

I live in real rural Michigan, never seen ping below 100. Lol! I never knew it was that big of a deal, it’d be nice to know I might suck a little less than I do.

[@realmoneymack4578]

He suddenly turned into a much better player and I think that excited neace when he realized it was actually something the player couldn’t fix. And the player wasn’t ignoring him

[@chasejasinski7218]

I'm in Rural Wisconsin and my ping is 8 😁

[@taylork420]

before the OCE server existed, I had to play on the NA server with 150-180 ping. I was bronze. Since the OCE server, my ping is now 30 and I peaked Plat3.@@clo8076

[@morosov4595]

Bully Dafoe: Move faster, kite better, click a lot. Client: But i have huge lag. Bully Dafoe: I missed the part where that's my problem.

[@jakex1091]

Lol

[@MrEmrys24]

😂

[@Onshin0815]

hahahahaahhahaahaha

[@mrortiz2158]

This when u know neace is a good coach..notices big issue in a client's first game..game 2 he has all the solutions. Client had bad ping..right away he had 2 champs for each lane and u could already see improvement

[@livingkiss]

That lag simulator is super helpful. I wish someone had explained this to me when I started playing and had 80-130 ping every game. Going down to sub-50 ping was game changing and boosted me an entire division (silver to gold) just from mechanics since I play enchanters and mages

[@JAY-lz6os]

Dude has to wait 4x longer to react/receive things and still plays better than most league players I've seen.

[@hashtagjay4266]

Playing on shit ping makes u a diff animal when u finally get good ping

[@Griefex]

@@hashtagjay4266 facts

[@clo8076]

I literally have never played League with less than 100 ping, is it that serious? Lol I’m not good, by any means, so I’m not trying to say otherwise. I always assumed it was a factor, but not enough to actually change how good I was.

[@Griefex]

@@clo8076 it is when I had 100+ ping I had to predict enemy movement 2-3 secs faster. When I finally got low ping I could do plays that are risky such as using summoners and key abilities at the very last second allowing for more dodges and bait potential.

[@JAY-lz6os]

@@clo8076 I mean even if you have an insane reaction time, having High Ping causes slow sending/receiving meaning, the enemy could be trash and outplay you simply because of input lag.

[@HippyCheez11]

I know his pain I ran on hotspot for a long time with Verizon . Played WoW with this forever. Def no yasuos in this mans future

[@bleachmark9816]

Thats a good thing lol, no yasuo I mean

[@kakerlak3n]

I was a d1 playmaker support main and lately I made a reality check by playing solo lanes. I discovered how hard I suck in terms of laning + map awareness etc. Every Neace coaching video I watched got me feeling like ,,wow people, doing well can't be that hard", after the reality check I understand them more and more xD

[@butterflyfx57]

Yeah, support honestly is an entirely different game. Your mind is occupied with different things than everyone else.

[@MikelNaUsaCom]

@@butterflyfx57 yep, been a support main for a couple of years... switched to top/jg and it's much easier as a solo laner. less reliance on other people doing their job... just have to do your job and not worry about anyone else. whereas support, if your laners are bad, or just make mistakes, then it doesn't matter how much vision you give them, or how good you gank, you are reliant on them doing well.

[@MikelNaUsaCom]

plus no matter how much you carry as support, your team will never give you credit for any of your carry. it's like being invisible.

[@butterflyfx57]

@@MikelNaUsaCom Honestly I don't think I'll ever play anything else though. I like being the brains and eyes of the team. Because most teams are brainless and blind.

[@bradleymoore2797]

​@@MikelNaUsaCom “if you do too much people get dependent on you. And if you do nothing, they lose hope. When you do things right, people won’t be sure you’ve done anything at all.”

[@HairyLoco]

This guy is actually a pretty poggers jungler. Great Rammus game, big respect

[@AAbattery444]

Neace, he's from Kentucky. No bullshit, the internet out there is fucking atrocious. Surprised he even gets 120 ping at all tbh. Kentucky is like the most deprived state in the US.

[@MrDavidKord]

Their Senator has a 17% approval rating and still managed to be Majority leader/Minority leader XD

[@Sunny-qo2lt]

At least they have some good fried chicken

[@sarzootashoota351]

The Dakotas: are we a joke to you?

[@Fohnzii]

@@MrDavidKord 'Murica

[@bradleymoore2797]

I get 120 ping playing EuW. I live in NA btw.

[@russianroyal1861]

The fight at 33:30. At the dragon pit. There was a few seconds of the beamy all clumped up. Would have loved to see a massive adult from Rammus onto all 4 of them.

[@Atron420]

I think it might have helped to explain what the different abililtes and items he was building do. I get he was probably very overwhelmed but maybe explaining mord ult steals his stats so he's way squishier, recasting w stops it (i feel he was moving kinda slow to places), what gargoils active does

[@MisterMunkki]

Another important thing for high ping players is to use smartcast on everything. You're already bleeding frames everywhere because of your ping, you can't afford to add more delay by needing more inputs like that. It's especially true on things like Rammus taunt, that you want to spam, as spamming 2 consecutive different inputs is way worse than 1 single input (for exemple if you're not synced properly and the first possible frame starts on a Click Click E Click sequence, you just did 4 inputs instead of 1).

[@MisterMunkki]

@Ahnm ? What do you mean?

[@eonstar]

@@MisterMunkki I think you mean quick cast, not smart cast

[@MisterMunkki]

@@eonstar Same thing, it used to be called smart cast back in the day

[@emonerd2567]

loved this client, im rooting for him! i feel really bad about his internet situation but i know he can pull through. fun game to watch as well

[@JustinTheDev]

Holy shit at 41:10 I would have been so tilted lmao. They kill the tower, Jhin autos the inhib and they die 1v3 to Kogmaw lmao.

[@jBaO493]

Damn, not even I get 120 ping and I live in México xd But yeah, it sucks to have high ping all the time and know that everyone has an advantage over you even if they suck at the game

[@morosov4595]

This guy should play dota. He would get really comfortable with the comunity there (i saw russians play on 250ms and being chill about it XD) *for legal reasons this is a joke*

[@Khalys.]

damn, it takes basically a quarter of a second to react on that ping

[@taRmYgFPS]

I have to say this was the best coaching session I have seen yet. Gotta hand it to ya Neace, I never would have thought to put this guy on a completely different champ and role due to his ping. He did well too. Excellent work! I think he will enjoy the game a lot more now. I need a good Jungler to duo with, send him over to me lol

[@josshhyboy]

@1:00 in I am going to guess it's the ping/ ms and being a skill shot only champ = won't end well.

[@Beepomt]

With my old ping, if I was lucky to have 100 ping as my lowest. I always thought I was shit and hard stuck but now with a good consistent ping I feel so much better playing league.

[@Xethl]

UK Wi-Fi can be 150-250 some times but it's *usually* 25-60 and its so painful when it hits 60, on a 150-250 night I feel like I'm playing with 15 years of delay as I Q and then nothing happens for at least a half second. Also the "150ms ping" is not 150ms behind, it's an average over a second or two if your ping is 500ms and then 20ms within the average window your average will be 260ms so it's actually worse than you think. I'm just very thankful it's usually below 40 lmao

[@YuVW]

this reminds me when I started playing I did basically the entire climb to level 30 at 300ms ping, never realizing there's anything wrong with it. When I "fixed it" to 120ms it felt like a completely different game. I've since then moved and am now getting 30-50ms and it's once again a different game

[@evilerroryt8448]

I honestly don't blame this dude playing like this. Playing on high ping feels very buggy. (I play on 250 ping) it's the main reason I dropped adc I can kite but playing on ping like that ain't consistent. The videos you put out really help me counter this disadvantage though.

[@morosov4595]

250 ping, this is nuts

[@morosov4595]

@@RandomUserYTisFailing 250s is 1/4th of a sec, so if you count both ways it's half a sec. If you also count human reaction (around 250ms) you get a full sec delay. That's crazy.

[@iurifrazao454]

@@morosov4595 I mean... everyone also counts human reaction and riot probably has some tools to reduce perceived latency effects (not certain about league but CS:GO has a pretty good system). So in reality you would be playing at around 250-300ms perceived delay. That's still an world of difference though.

[@thomasburnett8926]

I think it would've helped to tell this guy a bit more about Rammus's kit, he kept using Q while he was mid W and canceling it during clears and dragons and stuff and he didn't know *why* you stack armor on Rammus regardless of enemy team comp. He also never used W recast to cancel, although there weren't a ton of moments where this was an issue because it had usually pretty much run out anyway or he had Q up again. His Rammus mechanics were pretty detrimental to the way the game went (and honestly kind of horrifying to watch in the beginning lol), and while part of it is just that he hasn't played the champ before, it would help him to know everything the champ actually does. He had numerous moments that I thought were just as silly with his abilities as that 28:15 Jhin R. He did seem to figure out halfway through the match that just staying in W while you're fighting something is good, and he in general got much better mechanically over the course of the game. If you're here in the comments Mr. Client Dude, not flaming you or anything even simple champs like Garen or Rammus have combos you can easily ruin if you don't know them/don't know their kit, I'd highly recommend looking at champ kits on the LoL fandom wiki site because it gives all ability scaling and descriptions, and often lists either little bugs or quirks of abilities too.

[@SaltyJ3WBagles]

I always thought font of life was front of line lmao NEACE with the mind blows

[@Traternal]

i think this is the best advice you could have possibly gave him, great job as always man

[@andrewlong6766]

watching this coaching i just became a ram-ass main...as of the lag i know the struggle...good work

[@Bells_Lodge]

Used to play on a craptop with mobile hotspot because I lived in a hotel with garbage net. League made for a great escape while I was homeless and working a dead end job in a desperate attempt to not be homeless. (Also traded work for room and board at the hotel). 120-140 ping was normal. 80 was a good day. Now, I play on 20-30 ping. I don't think I could go back to that high of ping.

[@matthewjohnson2488]

Feel bad for the ping....but playing a champion that coincides with your limitations is very important. That is why i'm otp malz. Not flashy, but my lp thanks me daily.

[@bleachmark9816]

You disgust me as an akali OTP, but I respect the decision

[@Showout03]

thats crazy 129 ping. i live in kentucky and my ping is 29. didnt know such a thing was possible here considering were pretty close to illinois

[@frankenshmur3018]

I'm fully aware of how bad the lag thing is but I'm active duty military stationed in Japan with 170 ping refuse to make a new account in Japan though

[@littlelily831]

Lowest I've ever played at is 182ms. All I can play is support. Can't farm, can't kite. But it's a fun game with friends for me now.

[@Mvgical]

Let them know they don't have to buy a ward in the very beginning it comes automatically once you pass the t3 tower

[@A123-d8o]

my sister volunteered in kentucky from what she described about the conditions there its a third world country. anyone living in kentucky should flee lol

[@jasemali1987]

he mentioned Rammus , and I mained him long time ago for that exact reason , the nearest server is EUNE and I have 100 ms at best. the best I reached is Gold 4 and I know that if I moved to lower MS location I'll be shredding the Rift like Faker. I have 1.5 M Pts with Rammus , and also I play Nocturn as my 2nd option. I wish If Riot match people with the same ping category to keep it fair, because playing with 30 ms players while my ping is 110 ms is unfair.

[@butterflyfx57]

Also good advice for people that have lag of the brain, which unfortunately is a lot of players in low elo.

[@melancholybobbyjoe]

I play on 58 ping and it's very noticeable when it moves at all. I hate it. I'm on fiber but all the fiber where I live is sub par.

[@iurifrazao454]

What north-americans think of separating the server in NA1 and NA2, maybe there aren't enough players? Latin America is separated in 3 servers LA North, LA South and Brazil. I play at around 20ms in Rio and the servers aren't even in my state.

[@davidtv2224]

How can people play on that high ping? My shit starts teleporting if it goes over 70

[@Tomeccho]

Oh yeah... I remember playing on NA before we had an OCE server. It was just an unspoken rule you didn't play Xerath ... Oriana ... LB ... Anivia ... Vayne etc anyone that required tight precise *exact* movement or reactions. Once we got our own server, it was like the champ pool increased by 30% overnight and finally we could fucking PLAY! Good times, bad times and best of times!

[@yoshikuu]

I’m really rooting for him 🥺

[@gundars2000]

Ping/lag section is a bit misleading. 125 ms is round-trip ping not single direction. Therefore its not accurate to double it in whatever scenario/explanation. Its already doubled in that sense.

[@crappieking5592]

5:00 I always called bs when people bitch about Ms. I totally understand now.... I play on 40-50ms and get spikes to 100.

[@alb9022]

wow, took u this long to understand. that's just sad xD

[@crappieking5592]

@@alb9022 when you do nothing but bitch about it how am I supposed to learn? Just like this MR I keep hearing about. No one ever explains what it means

[@crappieking5592]

@@alb9022 this is the problem with the world. They expect everyone to know everything in the world then ridicule them when they don't know something. It's a damn video game so you really think I'm out here reading books about the meaning of everything in the game? The fuck you on kid?

[@hexanec9270]

I feel this so hard I constantly play at 90 ping

[@mummbamiester6338]

he's goign to be so good when he gets on better ping

[@PULAG]

Not sure if I missed it or what, but did he tell him to lower all his video settings as well? Could help a little..

[@trevorleboeuf585]

I used to play talon with a frame rate of 34 and an ms higher than 300 at times, my computer was 15 years old, and my wifi is basically a toaster

[@g00zik97]

what a story trevor

[@alb9022]

@@g00zik97 uhm, k?

[@swartzgaming907]

Rofl This is awesome, because I have no less than 90-110 ping ever since they moved servers to central. Alaska represent!

[@joeymc1993]

I felt so dumb for not realizing what this title was sooner

[@petabrain]

I think Singed is a solid laggy pick, he's also strong this season

[@DevilWearsAdidas]

Sion will fit all of those roles as well. I dont see you recommending sion but that champion is gigachad levels of simple to play. Not only that but he infinitely scales and can't be kited due to ult. I'd like to see your take on why you dont recommend Sion at all. He can fit every single role.

[@robertjordan7280]

I played euwest with my friends from na. 180-220 ping. Its hellllll

[@paulf4470]

This is normal hawaii ping. I didint realize how bad 100 ping is

[@Hymn645]

I play wildrift on 100-200 ping, my highest win rate is on tanks with no important skill shots or none whatsoever. Rengar is my favorite champ but goddam I’m stuck at 50% winrate because I’m always missing out on 100+ hp on his W heal and landing his E is hard. And so many times it looks like I should be able to jump from a bush but i don’t. Win rate on every tank, besides thresh, is 60+ simply because of the disadvantage of ping. For thresh that hook is a fucking nightmare with the cast time, plus in WR he turns into the cast direction so it easy as fuck to dodge. tank jungler is easy as pie, ironically, rammus is also one of my favorites especially into auto attack based champs. That ping is also why I don’t try PC, I feel like there are a lot more ultra try hards in pc ranked. The only issue with jungle is smite battles with tanks and high ping are an absolute nightmare. So tank Nunu is an option in that case because of hi Q.

[@jsquaredm]

Satellite internet will always have the highest ping because the data has to go up to fucking space and back. He just needs to find a new video game honestly. My parents have satellite internet still and it is so horrible.

[@genoisefly]

Neace, you just saved this man's League career.

[@Samuel-yt9ty]

198 constant ping in South Africa. Playing EUW

[@Ando4611]

Gotta play on 90 ping constantly so when You play on 30 ping Youre a kiting God

[@global8395]

Like 2 years ago i played with pretty good internet that for some reason started pinging and dropping and at that time i was Yasuo player. when it started i dropped from platinum promo to Gold 4 in 1 week. Yeah, bad internet really does a lot.

[@teachingjoshuawarrior]

Wait. i also play on 120-150 ping. i play top and mid..garen top . brand and Katarina mid ... what should i play for those roles??

[@Serallin]

I get where he was going - while explaining the latency. There is some truth in that - but it's not an accurate explanation. It's not the coding in his case... his high latency (either bad internet connection or he's to far away from the server) - is still visible. The game feels rather smooth - cause he's on a Good PC as in 200+ FPS. LoL does have a coding trick - that can mimic a low latency even on a PC with higher latency - as in "Movement Prediction". If you thick that option - your game won't be in sync with your internet speed - but a low ping (basically moving and acting/reacting as if you have a low ping). Tho, it won't feel that smooth anymore - especially if you have a bad internet connection. Instead it feels somehow - "forced" - because it is. And that shows even on the other side (for the other players running at low ping) - where your character will lack the smooth movement of all the other chars (running at low ping). Last but not least, yes... you're clearly at a disadvantage. And yet, if you've always played at high ping - your brain will adapt - and thus, you'll move far better than someone who's used to playing at low ping - switching to high ping (for them the handicap can be quite noticeable).

[@joOta26]

Enabling moviment prediction helps with the 125ms?

[@Bells_Lodge]

I am surprised you didn't say anything about pressing P to open shop and esc to close 😅

[@reveillegaming]

our man needs some starlink.

[@gameconcept1196]

I play on 30 ping. On some rare days, when the internet is messed up for whatever reason, it can get down to 60 ping. If that happens, I close the game, because it's unplayable! 🤣

[@Dracomandriuthus]

Better ping than I've ever had lmfao

[@biscuitandbailey]

I agree

[@rafaelbento7192]

once my keyboard broke and i started playing tahm with only my mouse and it is incredibly easy

[@toflan1604]

Wtf till what rank ?😂

[@matsepulveda]

Can we talk about how great of a coach this guy is?

[@Typictwins]

how do you fix your ping?

[@fatman3ok]

I play on hotspot dont. Tether to you computer improved ping went from 120 to 60-80 also from Kentucky

Malphite laggy ult be like.... *BOOM* *grayscreen* all chat: wtf? malph trolling?

[@neonshadow5005]

You can't play Leagues AT ALL on 120 ms .. that shit feels so horrible .. dear god. This is not even worth it at this stage.

[@Tinmangreg]

I remember the days whe League servers were only Cali based and being anywhere east coast or Canada sucked.

[@hgamerking4155]

Me who play with 140 ping and somtimes 200 omg i hate this lol

[@mathwiz3145]

Oooof. I also play at the speed of how neace defines “2 actions per minute” 😭 forever bronze it is. Edit after watching more of the video: So, I move slow, I play from Hawaii. However, I do play tanks. Like, maokai with his point and click root. So, yeah?

[@spitz-mv6zb]

uhhh, idk about Rammus, you gotta weave through minion waves while your Q is running to hit the other guy and they'll also try to juke you. you'll need pretty concise movement inputs for that.

[@lazyinspirit]

And here's me maining miss fortune and hard stuck in silver on a 240ms ping wondering why I'm stuck 🙃

[@paralleldenizen9567]

ayyy fellow Kentuckian. what up brother. i too live in the woods but i use fiber optic.

[@yuumijungle548]

i always found it very interesting how champs like evelynn and rengar have consistently super low winrates in low elos. and this is probably why, invisibility does nothing if your opponent can act before you anyway because you have a 1 second delay on every input, assuming most low elo players play on super high ping which is probably true. in my opinion this is the number one reason why people are stuck in low elo forever and unless they fix their set up there is pretty much nothing they can do about it, they can get coaching 24/7, it doesnt matter if they play on high ping on low fps. and people like neace are thinking that these people are mentally disabled or something, this is the first time he actually payed attention to whats going on.

[@danielclv97]

neah dude, you have too much faith in humanity. Most low elo players are there because they suck. Me included.

[@yuumijungle548]

@@danielclv97 might be true in some cases, but i bet a lot of low elo players play on bad set ups as well, else there would be no difference in champion performance like evelynn or rengar compared to stuff like rammus and master yi at least when it comes to champion winrates this explains it the best, rammus does not magically get a buff just because he used in low elo, its just if you have a bad set up then of course your gonna perform better on a champ like him, compared to something that requires quick reaction times. what even strengthens this theory more is that champs like rengar and evelynn are really popular boosting and smurfing champions, dont you think those would offset the difference a little bit? yet its the opposite, those 2 are consistantly at close to 40% winrates in bronze and iron no matter what, bronze rammus players are just as stupid as bronze rengar players and yet there is a massive winrate difference and this is why.

[@alb9022]

@@yuumijungle548 giving these idiots way too much credit. basic macro sense is so important. having the 'micro' to to jump on someone's face and combo won't matter if they're consistently getting ganked, going in 1v3s, not pushing advantages, not gaing and maintaning momentum and leads, burning flashes to free ganks and not prioritising objectives appropriately and properly

[@yuumijungle548]

@@alb9022 im not giving anyone credit, my point is that this is a common issue in lower elos, i mean did you even watch the video? xD yes of course idiots do exist, in all elos, but of course most of the people that use terrible set ups are most likely not all found in challenger, duh.

[@blorblin]

@@yuumijungle548 i kinda agree. In KR, good internet is cheap, and you can always go to a PC bang if you don't have a good PC at home for a few thousand won (1000~~ 1 USD). I think having a good setup lets you improve better because you have a more pure relation between progress and output.

[@rwaaful]

This client seems like a nice dude I hope he is doing well

[@xxS3RIOUSxx]

120+ ping on a skill shot champion... yeah thats not gonna end well. Wheres Naut?

[@xxS3RIOUSxx]

I normally play around 50 to 70ms. And its not that terrible. But i notice it more when i try to react with Flash or disengaging sometimes. It is what it is. Just another thing to play around.

[@gainsofglory6414]

Starlink inbound.

[@musicfan07058]

His ult the reason you don't take flash?

[@ayn89928]

elon musk has starlink so everyone in very rural areas can have very low ping

[@blondymonk1535]

How in godsname do you play with 125ms.... I get angry when my ping gets above 30...

[@anywherebuthere4389]

Neace needs to play Xerath on 125 ping and then I’ll stop being a peeping Teemo

[@JAY-lz6os]

AT&T is Dogwater DSL and patchy mobile hotspot satellite coverage.

[@sinchanas9254]

then there's me playing w 200 ping everyday :'D

[@nikielrajah295]

I play on 190ping everyday 😭

[@abdulbaasitwilliams5637]

neace what champs can i play on 170ms

[@xertul2865]

Minecraft

[@DobeCa1]

Good luck ult+smite stealing drake baron , still better than Xerath skillshots , and open/close shop with P

[@sgk0012]

17:23 blue got a fat arm

[@izakdevilliers3552]

Neace will freak if he coaches me, fasted normal ping in SA is 200. On my current internet it's 300 🤣🤣🤣

[@henrimosser4608]

really nice game

[@EarthMover-mw8tp]

back in 2014 i had 140ping in na still got to gold lol

[@USayMePlay]

Back in 2014 my nan could've got gold bro

[@toflan1604]

It was easy to get to d

[@Darrentime]

YES new xerath video! (Happy xearth main) (i learn sooo much from you thanks

[@alannar6189]

Watch zwag

[@Darrentime]

@@alannar6189 i do

[@alannar6189]

@@Darrentime he’s so good

[@frequentsee3815]

26 assists. Massive

[@aitorrodriguez6888]

"yeah just play tanks!" Alrighty boi that's 250$ lmao 🤣 #itsajoke

[@alb9022]

#goodjoke

[@rinrin4711]

Dude plays Dota in LOL