I FINALLY Beat Manor Lords' HARDEST Challenge...

[@immotion665]

"lets fight them by the church because theres probably going to be a lot of dead bodies" is the exact kind of cold pragmatism i expect from you Strat

[@StratPlays]

Lol I guess taken out of context, these could be pretty strange things to hear!

[@immotion665]

@@StratPlays I know you already made a quick market access vid, but all the market micro you did in this series really confuses me and you seem to understand it better than before. Currently the most frustrating thing in my games is the seeming need to have tons of market stalls and warehouse workers when I'm sure there's a way I could need less

[@koraafx]

😂😂

[@INFJ-ThaneTr]

​@@immotion665skill issue

[@phineasgage8252]

21:58 "so that's less people we have later to defend with" Stannis: "Fewer."

[@Alter_Ion]

How I know I've been playing way too much of this game: I had a dream last night that my ox died from being overworked and I genuinely woke up sad

[@StratPlays]

lol I felt that

[@melody_BP]

This feels like how the game was meant to be played. I imagine in the future with several enemies, it will be more important to start a second town to build your armies. For a while there I thought the alcoholic villagers would be your downfall. GG

[@StratPlays]

Agreed! It was so much more fun than trading for everything and basically skipping 90% of the game. Lol it almost was a couple times!

[@SuitedNerdTV]

Strongest manor lords content out there! Am interested in seeing you play on just the challenging preset, can't seem to find a clean run on that achievement.

[@StratPlays]

Thanks! I think I did that achievement a couple videos ago, but that might have been on the content creator build and it's gotten much harder with the early access build. If I have time, I'll put one together. I was also thinking about doing one for the guide channel where I show a build order for the harder difficulty - that might help as well

[@SuitedNerdTV]

@@StratPlays Thanks for the reply! Seems I might not be the only achievement hunter in the audience :) The lack of bandit camps actually makes it hard to halt the baron and avoid a super long game.

[@whiskeyjack6668]

Really appreciate the effort put in to this. Already see mistakes I was making in my own challenge run. Will definitely incorporate many of these ideas in to my next attempt

[@StratPlays]

Glad to hear this was helpful! Good luck on your next run :)

[@uncannystranger857]

took me a couple of failed attempts before I realised you are literally right next to the stone deposit, which is how you’re able to build the manor so quickly

[@StratPlays]

Yeah that helps with getting a couple early camps before the Baron does, but it's not crucial to winning this scenario. I'll have to redo this with the bandit camps turned off as I think it helps much more than it hurts the player (or helps the Baron).

[@kikow3792]

I was waiting for it~ This challenge is my bread and butter rn, as I feel like there's a lot to learn.

[@StratPlays]

This was probably my favorite campaign so far! I spent a really long time testing and practicing for this one and I probably failed it 5 or 6 times before I finally figured it out. Hope you enjoy it!

[@catogumpa1735]

I highly appreciate your professional approach Not enough people are serious about what they do I'm glad to have found another exception Congratulations and thank you!

[@StratPlays]

I appreciate that!

[@HEKVT]

It's a good thing the recent patch testing decreases ail consumption greatly. Just waiting for them to fix the Baron hiring up all the mercenaries, makes it very difficult to win the mercenary only challenge.

[@sebastianchantre3152]

A game I would absolutely love for you to cover is Gates of Hell: Ostfront. It's probably the most in depth WW2 RTS there is and it is getting better with every update. Maybe you don't like that sort of thing but if you do I'd definitely check it out!

[@HeyItsMax]

Considered some kind of Retinue only challenge? Gives an actual need to a multizoned playthrough.

[@StratPlays]

I think with trade allowed, it wouldn't be too bad since you can make money very quickly and convert it over to treasury. You can hold off raids with 1 fully upgraded retinue (24 units, not 12) and lose 4 - 6 of them per 4x raiders. I think you can probably hold off the baron's army with 2 or 3 retinue, so assuming the expansion isn't blocked and you rush 3 towns, I think it's very doable!

[@mathewmagee9970]

First off love your bannerlord and manorlord content has gotten me into both of these games and now can’t stop playing them. 50:33 am I going insane or did you have to save scum to not pay the mercenary’s again? I always keep those mercenary’s for too long too 😂

[@StratPlays]

Thanks! I don't recall if it was that or a crash lol I do forget to cut them loose sometimes and end up paying an extra month so probably reloaded it from the autosave :D

[@kirilsmedvedevs3369]

You're a legend, Strat!

[@renemuller7383]

*sigh* and here my challenge-run was screwed over because the ppl in my first "colony" refused to set up market-stalls.

[@zezingtin9287]

A bit cheesy, and the AI pathing sometimes does well, but if you contest a claim and can kite the enemies for 90 days, and keep them from entering the battlefield it can be a fairly cheap way of getting territory. had them chase me to 3 corners of the map before the time lapsed.

[@zezingtin9287]

sometimes they will bring a second army in, which can be hard to get the kite going

[@zjafo3442]

At around the 49-50 minute mark you build your farm setup and choose farm plowing for your upgrade, but then later you do it again. Was it a bad cut or a reload or something?

[@StratPlays]

It was most likely a reload - I had one crash that I put a note for the editor but he must have lined them up wrong. Sorry about that!

[@phineasgage8252]

Would it have been more optimal to use one of the bandit camps for regional wealth so you can get at least one more ox?

[@StratPlays]

Yeah that would have been better, but I was trying to have regional wealth only come from burgage plots on this run. I don't think I explicitly stated that in the rules, but that's what I was going for :)

[@rignanroach1775]

I always thought you would like Total War, maybe more the historicals than the Warhammer. And yet you never did any Total War. But here you are on this? Interesting.... I think maybe my hype is being reserved for Kinstrife. Have you heard of it? Not out yet but maybe a more physics based riff on Bannerlord type play. And I hope I hope I hope a better infrastructure builder gameplay loop.

[@ReklawLah]

But.... harvesting season is really only a very short time in RL. I like the realism.

[@ReyesOnRye]

it's all about timing and incredible challenge! Have you dabbled in the beta .7.960 ?

[@StratPlays]

Yeah, I've got about 10 hours on it so far! I'm going to make some videos on it for the guide channel soon discussing my thoughts.

[@ajpintoc]

with that much regional treasure, you could tax the percent needed to maxout retinue, how much would be the moral hit for the town?

[@StratPlays]

On this difficulty setting, it's a lot! Even at 1% tax it hits like -2 or -3 per month, but keep in mind the longer you keep the tax up, the more it spills into the "previous month" category so -2 will become -12 or -20 eventually if you leave it on long enough. I remember testing a 50% tax month and everyone in the town left quickly LOL

[@ajpintoc]

@@StratPlays but it would be for only a month, with your aproval at 100% like in the end of the video you could tax the amount to lose 50 approval, and get almost 2000 treasure. And a advice, al the beggining when the baron is trying to get the 1st territory even if you dont have the strength to fight is good idea to click and start a war, because it lasts 3 months, in 3 months he will not be able to reclaim other territories, so you can slow him a little bit

[@Cheetobob]

9:03 how did you get 2 more families under 50%? Does the Manor give you 2 families when built?

[@HansWurst1569]

yes! they will live in the manor and their job will count as 'servant' afaik. Not sure how they function besides that.

[@phineasgage8252]

Yup

[@StratPlays]

Yeah the manor house gives you 2 useless families. They eat food and use firewood, but you can't assign them to work so basically useless. You can use them as militia, but they are stuck at level 1 so they can't equip armor past the helmet.

[@qd5683]

SG the ML GOAT.

[@bartgelin]

Sadly this seems to be now an actually impossible challenge, due to the King's tax. I'd be happy to be proven wrong though :)

[@StratPlays]

I think you might be right - although you could always just turn it off just for this challenge! Or just ignore the tax and stick to a single region and accept that you'll be in debt forever lol

[@HeyItsMax]

Would this be possible with 0 bandit camps on the map?

[@StratPlays]

As i got the end of the run, I thought the same thing. The AI would be a lot slower in taking land, so my guess is it should be possible. Only one way to find out! lol

[@HeyItsMax]

@@StratPlays Or, this ruleset but only Retinue, want 6 troops? Go manage 6 regions without trade.

[@bartgelin]

Well, I subbed due to the previous vid. I'm just about to start this same challenge and so will see how deep a pit of misery I can dig for myself 🤣🤪 GOTY for me so far and I hope the future is bright for its development.....I might never see the sun again....right up there for me with Civ for a most enjoyable time-sink...even with the screamingly frustrating bugs...

[@StratPlays]

Good luck on your run! It's a really fun one

[@PureMatteo]

Hi :) just to clarify this was pre beta right ? If i'm correct the camp cant be upgraded anymore. Curious about it cause I tried it without the option to up it and have people also warmed up in it. It's not anymore an option if i'm correct so a real roof becomes a requirement too to get to 50% quick. On the new "beta" so far i found early survival extremely RNG based because my build makes me go to 25% temporarily. I might need to try it by save scumming and reshuffle the start to have a berry+hunters+rich iron, or use more the tents than before.

[@PureMatteo]

like at 6!40, the game becomes RNG based. I feel there "should" be a way to avoid below 25% by playing the game perfectly, for ex there should be a way to ensure 26% or more by having the tent fueled up, or some debuffs a couple points less than currently so it's possible to survive the early days without relying on luck and reloading saves

[@StratPlays]

This was done on 0.7.955 (not the current experimental build). With that being said, I think this can still be done on the current patch! You don't need to upgrade the worker camp to survive the early start (and I usually don't actually, it's a slower start IMO).

[@ziunerbl]

duplex produce double and cost only 1 food 1 firewood per plot

[@StratPlays]

Duplexes definitely consume 2 food per plot, not 1 (both myself and Tacticat has spend dozens of hours running tests on this subject - we feel confident in this). Firewood is 1 per plot as you suggested.

[@eazy-producer7054]

correct me if im wrong - but ive seen multiple people say that artisan workshops (workshops in general) are better on multi-family plots as its quickens production? yet you are doing the opposite

[@StratPlays]

It depends on how much production you wait - I wanted to limit production here since I wasn't selling excess. If you have to pause production, you cannot use those workers from the artisan shop, but they still consume firewood, food and ale.

[@odycz]

There is even harder versions play this without bandit camps...

[@StratPlays]

Yeah true, I hope they nerf the bandit camps lol

[@christopher2866]

(Single ox gets struck by lightning) 😱

[@StratPlays]

Lol GG

[@phineasgage8252]

This is a fun challenge! I guess the most OP part about trading is importing in general and abusing the price manipulation that you can do in particular, so a "no import" restriction would have been fine aswell. But this is more hardcore of course

[@StratPlays]

The early game of 0 gold and not being able to sell anything to get an ox is the most brutal part lol even selling a bit of firewood can net you enough for second one.

[@hitmanamjed3034]

how do u know when the month is going to end?

[@StratPlays]

at 12x speed each month takes about 100 seconds (1min40sec) so you can ballpark it. Otherwise, if you're farming you can look at the estimated time to harvest and look for the next number that is divisible by 30 (all 12 months are 30 days in this game).

[@HansWurst1569]

Awww yeah! Was waiting for this one. Gonna grab a beer and watch this one tonight! Cheers!

[@foleymcfoley9720]

cool vid bro

[@aosalias]

Solid

[@louisgray96]

I thought you could only have two apiaries?

[@StratPlays]

The text says 2, but it's not properly implemented and you can make as many as you please. For now :)

[@bobrobmarc.-.966]

I just need that game 2 be one sale 😢

[@2x1_enthusiast]

i have this game but every time i play it i end up getting bored😢

[@melody_BP]

He actually did it, the absolute madlad

[@Roy.Rodger]

Yes

[@nam430]

woppaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[@Deadcontroll]

Nice! Great video! I was wondering is there is even harder challenge? Remove bandit camp spawn, since at this point it is better, the more you have, since you can use them for cash. So no bandit camps, first bandit attack after 1 year and then build your force without trading to withstand the AI attack.. then a slow grind to conquer the rest. I think it might be possible: 1. rush manor, church and one blacksmith to produce at least 20 polearms to withstand first bandit attack. 2. remove blacksmith to grow pop asap before rebuilding and then doing the same as in this video

[@Deadcontroll]

Just saw that build black smith requires 5 silver, so you would need to update 5 plots wait 1 month and then destroy them, this would likley be very hard to do actually..

[@StratPlays]

I was thinking about this same thing as well. Most likely I would just build bowyer and 5 warbows, then delete and rebuild. Use the archers to kite them around the map until I was ready lol

[@Deadcontroll]

@@StratPlays Cool, i was able to kill the first attack with 5 retinue and 16 archers in the back, by fighting in the church courtyard (the gate is a great bottleneck). But success is not 100% reliable. But i think with the next patch to buff archers, our strats might be viable.

[@thorwaldjohanson2526]

Awesome strategies. Learned a lot. But yeah, farming needs a rework. Thr easiest would be to set a harvest threshold of percentage grown. Once it's reached, they harvest and replant the next thing in the crop rotation.

[@importedmusic]

Maybe it's just me but after 10 hours playing I'm bored.

[@StratPlays]

If you're into doing extra stuff like making rules for yourself, then it can be fun for a bit longer - but you're right. There's very limited content here.

[@steelej_fx]

sheeeesh 4 hour vid let’s go

[@dansullivan8]

Then there's me losing raids with almost 100 archers

[@HansWurst1569]

Get spearmen and retinue, archers are incredibly bad in this patch.

[@Md.MohiuddinMoin-uc8rx]

🇲🇽🙃

[@galzsolt8697]

The real challenge would be not to use the pause option. That would be a real challenge to deal with in real time. Also would feel more realistic. Pause the game all the time just make it too easy.

[@galzsolt8697]

Don't take it wrong, I really appreciate what you doing, it's just an idea ...

[@Javer3]

never realised that it was posible

[@bruh7670]

lesgoooooooooooo