I "Fixed" Magic: the Gathering's Charge Counter "Problem"

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[@onfrolicker9317]

I gave this video a “like” counter if you know what I mean. Right folks

[@Spice8Rack]

Heh heh heh 😎

[@russellharrell2747]

That’s what she said

[@GilroyIronheart]

"I tap 7 and play Sphincter Boner." "...You mean Sphynx-Bone Wand?" "No."

[@Gothstana]

"Did I stutter?"

[@piguy5684]

Spicey Boy: "But have you heard of these types of counters?" Me, who has a deck that tries to put every type of counter on Skullbriar: "Yes, yes I have."

[@Oopsall]

How's the divinity counters going lol

[@piguy5684]

@@Oopsall Divinity counters are actually really easy in comparison to some other types. Kindred Boon and That Which Was Taken both can just put counters on Skullbriar directly.

[@cassidycook9018]

Link to list?

[@broejoe53]

List tho?

[@piguy5684]

​@@cassidycook9018 @BroeJoe I've got the deck in paper, but lost my digital record of it a while ago when I had some account issues on MTGGoldfish. I'll go through the list and reupload it if people really want to see it.

[@mercerchandler8160]

I think he's just looming the mill vs discard video over us to keep us subscribed. I mean that in the best way possible, love your stuff Spice!

[@Spice8Rack]

It's coming this year ;)

[@mercerchandler8160]

@@Spice8Rack Yay! I got you to confirm lore about the Spice8Rack cannon!

[@jellybean358]

@@Spice8Rack sure it is

[@don8535]

@@Spice8Rack ill wait for you forever

[@ILikePi31415926535]

​@@Spice8Rack But spice, it's the 19th month of 2020 and it's not ending anytime soon, this year doesn't narrow it down at all!

[@ookazi1000]

@2:15, I'm the bastard responsible for putting all the keyword counters in a single category on the mtg wiki, and it makes me so happy to see the effect I have had on this video.

[@greisondeffer3664]

Thank you for your sacrifice

[@matheuslisboa9369]

This video felt like one of those bizarre Courage the cowardly dog episodes.

[@uwtartarus]

"What is monarchy but the theft of a nation by aristocratic birthright?" I need a time machine so I can make that my yearbook quote.

[@J.Applejuice]

Children have a LOT of blood counters. If I was a child and a nice green woman asked for my blood counters... I'd give her the blood counters Miriam she NEEDS them!

[@TobiNightcore]

WotC: "screw it, change everything to charge counters, unify everything. Planeswalkers included."

[@sunnyextraordinaire5065]

"Not unlike panicking during an ikoria draft and exclusively picking up Sudden Spinnerets. Ever counter from this point out is gonna be a reach" You are so delightfully clever and your videos are very enjoyable

[@willamthewisp3286]

I really thought you were going to go with a "charging of the bulls" and leave the charge counters on the Transmogrifying Wand as a "psych" because that Ox is definitely looking like it wants to charge that wizard.

[@e.schroeder474]

"We're giving my dog human legs" was not the take I was expecting in this video. Love it lmao

[@craigbainton4173]

He loves to run

[@Lucy-ym4dv]

If you haven't heard, conversion therapy is no long legal in the uk!

[@dawnbelleini8036]

Yay

[@craigbainton4173]

I was pretty sure but was worried I’d miss heard when he said it

[@MaxMakesMagic]

I had such a good time making my bits for this! The finished video is AMAZING 😍 love this so much!

[@solDelta]

That Jin-Gitaxis bit was not the mental image I was expecting but probably the mental image I deserved

[@DiabloTommaso]

Love you max eaven if that make up will hunt my lite forewer

[@ajanigoldmane574]

Jesus the phyrexian unlife

[@yellowpie]

You can’t put loyalty counters on Shrine of Loyal Legions, that would break the game! You could put a loyalty counter on your shrine, then move it with Nesting Grounds to give a free +1 to one of your planeswalkers every turn! The game would never recover!

[@Dialethian]

More of this strange sentiment... It's probably nostalgia.

[@FinetalPies]

Was just thinking you could never use spore counters on that mana fungus because of the very powerful Spore Sower combo potential

[@lucalapointe6011]

Jesus christ it looks like you are about to burst out of the walls with all that energy. Also love the video, I'm happy you took you're time.

[@Thomas-vn6cr]

I guess he had too many.....energy counters.

[@jesuschrist9677]

bro stop looking at me

[@mcbiscuits8015]

Charge, one might even say

[@khezueater7556]

ACKUALLY what if the animal in the art of transmogrifying wand is an ox/ram hybrid, and what do rams do? THEY CHARGE AND THEREFORE THE CHARGE COUNTERS ARE A PERFECT FIT *insert nfl theme*

[@CapnWatson]

*phone rings ominously*

[@TheMightyBattleSquid]

The mechanical reason is because there are effects that add and remove charge counters specifically and effects like The Ozolith could move counters of the same type around to something with a different function for them potentially creating unintended combos.

[@calemr]

I was thinking, "Bounty doesn't mean that within magic", and this explains why that's an issue. I put mana into Cornucopia, it represents more food or W/e, and then I find a way to move it, and suddenly it means someone has a price on their head.

[@PhoenicopterusR]

​@@calemr 15 flying squirrels can beat the physical manifestation of an eldritch monstrosity that exists in the space between planes. A little wordplay probably isn't that big of a thematic issue.

[@rhymeswithmoose228]

The "Tease mill vs discard and publish other quality vids that are about something else" strategy is pretty cool actually

[@jack229111]

I love how insane this video got at times, just like every other video it’s great

[@TheFrostHydra]

"What is monarchy if not theft of a nation by aristocratic birthright?" Damn, subtle jab at the queen, love it

[@WereInHell]

Counter point: I should still get to be able to beat you with my Pir and Toothy deck that runs a charge counter sub theme.

[@matianlong7907]

Spiceman is a marketing genius: He created a problem I never thought to have than he propose his solution his solution is very well made my problem with charge counters has been resolved

[@LunaAlphaKretin]

I haven't watched this yet but I always thought it would be funny if they made a keyword ability named Charge so that Charge counters retroactively became an Ikoria keyword counter. Bonus points if whatever Charge does can stack.

[@jacobschaffert]

Blast zone could use Fuse counters, it is just a land reprint of Powder Keg. Same with Engineered Explosive and Ratchet Bomb. bring back fuse counters for bombs

[@jackkingsman2758]

Screw normal counters, all my homies love charge counters

[@AutumnReel4444]

Spice 8-Rack is out here trying to end Myr Coretapper's career. Sadness. Edit: A bison is a sweet and sour

[@haeilsey]

yeah seriously if anything charge counters should be more universal to better support them as one cohesive mechanic

[@verbugterherrderdunkelheit6086]

1:36 in the exact moment, where he went to the left side, I swiped to the left on my phone. I had to rewatch the scene to make sure, KZbin didn't went interactive.

[@TangledLion]

Spice: doing the ending spiel and talking about it being a shorter video and how much of a pain it'd be to alter Mirrodin Charge counters. Me: sweats because there's about 20 mins left in the video

[@cyn0_]

I really hope Purple Monkey becomes a recurring character. No matter how dead he is.

[@SongbirdOfficial]

Rip Purple Monkey

[@natejablonski]

And now that we have Streets of New Capenna, Palliation Accord is no longer the only card with shield counters. That Gremlin card is now more interesting.

[@ActionCow69]

It actually got errata'd to have its own new Palliation counters instead, so it's out of the running.

[@racheperry2502]

The pop team epic plushie is just amazing

[@Spice8Rack]

It's wearable!

[@monkeygaming2859]

My favorite part is seeing him pick up and read definitions out of books that are clearly not dictionaries

[@zexionthefirst6767]

They're just an abridged remix of a dictionary, to be fair.

[@bendertusepaki8995]

« But it is cum » 😂 Pleasant Kenobi, get out of Spice’s body!

[@rara2ra2yrra3racjj2]

NOT to be taken out of context 😂😂

[@degenermights2427]

Speaking as a Teysa Karlov player who plays with a person who has an Animar deck, I feel as if that joke was made for me.

[@EthanKTufts]

Etrada's hit counters. I dont know if it was a joke or not, but it sounds like Spice thought it was literally signifying that Etrada needs to 'hit' your opponent to gain the counter. but "hit" in this case refers to assassin4tion. "Carrying out a hit" is a common phrase with bountyhunter's and such.

[@SongbirdOfficial]

I mean, he also recontextualized bounty and wind counters :P

[@BigBidoof]

This video makes poor little Coretapper very sad. Myr have feelings, too!

[@Vihilsta]

Oooh a video from my favorite channel with a rack that has 8 spices on it.

[@Spice8Rack]

Bless you

[@kellylogs2642]

Y'know you've called a few of your videos fever dreams, but this one really is. XD

[@noposter86]

I actually think "charge" counters make sense with the Transmogrifying Wand - the glowing runes on the wand suggests limited 'charges' of the spell loaded into the wand.

[@JKX888]

now, I actually wish more cards would use generic charge counters so they could synergize better

[@Lookoutscience]

You were so preoccupied with whether you could, you didn't stop to think whether you should. (also I'm Untap, Upkeep, Lose. I'm glad you enjoyed my patreon name)

[@leovalenzuela8368]

I loved it too!

[@matthewdaughtry-weiss7540]

This video had the side effect of making me realize the history and significance of charge counters. So I actually appreciate them a lot more now. Thank you Spice!

[@thefollowingisatest4579]

I had a deep primal fear that when you got to Empowered Autogenerator I was about to get sent to the Eyeball Zone.

[@CasualJakeMTG]

Lovely video! This video has placed a “spice counter” on my brain and I feel like proliferating! ⭐️

[@King-Bubel]

I can’t believe you would do this to my poor baby core tapper. THEY ARE JUST A LITTLE MYR THEY DON’T DESERVE THIS

[@GreatgoatonFire]

"Who is playing that music?" I'm goanna guess Oko.

[@grungington]

I had to pause the video to take a moment and appreciate the Sudden Spinnerets joke. Gave me a big dumb smile.

[@kaidimino9858]

There’s this thing about representation, the difference between “oh I get that, that’s like me” and “whoa, that IS Me.”. Not that there aren’t other Queer content creators doing good work, but so much about your videos resonates differently for me. Love your nails here. Thank You for the work

[@malign3158]

I was certain that Transmogrifying Wand was going to be “Change” counters or Hoofprint counters because of the ox

[@DPedro3]

Spice8Rack videos have two types: -Insanely well researched discussions about important topics contextualized through Magic The Gathering -Insanely well researched categorization of something weirdly specific that no one had an issue with or even cared about in the first place and i wouldn't have it any other way

[@MHCJV]

This was amazing. Unexpectedly so, considering the subject. That's the Spice magic.

[@alexs5814]

i know the ultimate argument of Wizards will be that "retireing" all those counters and replacing them with a "generic" charge counter makes the game easier to understand and play, i still appreciate the thoughtful and in depth deconstruction of the existing counters here.

[@glennhartley3309]

I'm surprised there was no card that was about running really fast in a group towards an enemy that needed an _aggressive jogging_ counter

[@anthonycannet1305]

Mechanically speaking I think most of the artifact counters need to be converted TO charge counters… there are a lot of cards that refer to charge counters on other cards, and those cards usually interact with how many times or how quickly the charge counter ability is able to be used. If you think of charge counters like charges on magic items in d&d, it makes sense that something being able to recharge a magic tool’s energy should be universally able to do so (with some exceptions). Brick counters from amonkhet, for example, are a great flavor win with them representing the building or destroying of literal buildings and the gain or loss of their effects, but when the building is completed or demolished the artifact card is still on the field. The brick counters in this case represent the buildup or depletion of the special ability of the card/building. As in it’s charging up or losing charge.

[@FaustTheThird]

Glad to see you're doing well. Keep up the fun content

[@qtheplatypus]

The “hoof print” counter looks like a bear pride logo.

[@TheUniversalEclipse]

But if we swap all of these my charge counter matter deck falls appart.

[@thijskroon5634]

One of your best yet, thoroughly enjoyed it. Keep it up

[@TomTom-tq6rs]

Woooooooo new video! Nice 👍 I rewatched the others in the meantime. It’s a real delight!

[@obiwanKILLNOOBi]

my man has D R I P in this, holy heck!

[@TheEvilCheesecake]

Nobody talks like that.

[@andrewrockwell1282]

Thumbs up for the hoofprint counters.

[@dahuntre]

I also learned “sylvan” from magic, the game is great at teaching new words like that

[@boblinthegoblin9670]

this felt like it went on for 2 hours, great video!

[@allisonsteele1899]

fun fact: the reason that MTGO uses the "paw" shape counter for hoofprint counters is that there was a limited budget available to make counters, and there was one made that had to cover all animal-type things. it's not the goofiest association in the game, but even so, given the options that were available when making that decision, I maintain it's the correct choice.

[@greywolf7577]

How much money does it take to make a counter on MTGO?

[@Noatzon]

"When the opponent plays island, taps, cast Aether Vial. What does that make you feel?" Oh hi Professor! Nice to meat you U:

[@GrapeSodaBrian]

This guy made me bring my blue nail polish out as well! Great video mate. Keep up the awesome content!

[@AveGluteusMaximus]

I missed you in the last month! What a treat Spice man!

[@jeastman9603]

you CANNOT put a clip from "a crow looked at me" without warning like that. my heart just dropped a thousand miles (kilometers?) once it figured out what was playing.

[@Dlark17]

Spice is a Pop Team Epic fan - I knew you were a quality chap.

[@ludosgd]

Wow it got pretty crazy at the end :') Love your videos!

[@villano37]

Ohgod I love you going deep into Magic mechanics and giving it some flavor ♥️

[@S...O___S...]

I haven't even finished watching the ad and I gave this a thumbs up

[@Spice8Rack]

Bless you!

[@CosmicErrata]

Spice, I'd love to play EDH with you, you absolute madlad.

[@smarzu6872]

Ah yes, my favourite dictionary, Dune by Frank Horbert.

[@boredmagala5701]

Love the video, your descent into madness was entertaining. Hang in there and keep making these hilarious videos

[@EnordAreven]

Ah crud, shield counters are something different now...

[@ScepticalAgnostic]

Bring Purple Monkey back this INSTANT

[@jhannigan210]

Thank you for the work you put into these... great video

[@kylerogue]

ive just started watching your videos and absolutely love your energy!

[@MakeVarahHappen]

14:45 This just isn't true. Blast Zone specifically represents when Bolas' Planar Bridge opened and blew up the Chamber of the Guildpact. It wasn't any kind of barrage by someone that was aiming at the building from outside.

[@angelojohnson9441]

This is an over 40 minute long video where an adult talks about a non-issue in a child’s card game, based off of another adult singing about said card game to the tune of a song from a cartoon older than Minecraft. Another beautifully executed video. Cheers!

[@okanut]

I needed some Spice today. Thank you!

[@herrokigaming]

Awesome video Spice-man!

[@Nicayle]

Alright my vorel charge counters deck needs you to stop right there. How am I supposed to use surge node to take more turns than is ethically acceptable with magistrate's scepter otherwise?

[@T_Peazy]

I'm a simple man. I see a Spice 8Rack video. I watch it through to the end, like and comment.

[@deevuh1328]

That "wind" counter joke made me subscribe. Love ya!

[@g33kaholic24]

8:32 that little blip hurt my heart and almost made me cry :( Such a sweet message tucked away

[@MajraMangetsu]

I love when you see a card and you think to yourself "hey, it's a good card, let's buy it !"

[@michael83479]

Amazing vid!

[@milohobo9186]

Your audacity intrigues me and inspires me. Thank you for this!

[@lilithoftheclay]

very happy to see this video sincei 've been playing more mtga and have been thinking about this

[@atBerniceAnders]

omg I thought that was a random clip of a movie, not your actual dad. Amazing.

[@kickwriteteach2313]

better fix: just make them all energy counters.

[@caseywellington4761]

Your sense of humor is crisp and perfect. Please never change.

[@obsidiangrimoire]

"Finally we have a counter to Palliation Accord, the only card that uses them" Less than a year later: Shield counters reintroduced in New Capenna, Palliation Accord gets errata changing it to using palliation counters

[@netherhigal]

I can't believe wizards STILL hasn't hired you to fix their counter problem.

[@catp1ss987]

Why do your videos take so much time to make? (hope you enjoy your day off!!)

[@blankspace2185]

17:55 Spice8rack you magnificent bastard you've done it again

[@leftwingdragon6235]

Yay so happy to see another spice 8 rack video.

[@Spice8Rack]

That's very lovely of you to say xxxx

[@leftwingdragon6235]

@@Spice8Rack you certainly did survive the sexy factory 😂