I Flew AIR ALGERIE And Instantly Regretted It...

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@DanLewis-i5k 3 ай бұрын

The crew should be professional on every flight regardless if they are having a bad day… safety is number one on any flight!

@maxwhitestone6674 2 ай бұрын

It`s not a bad day, it`s a cultural thing.

@DanLewis-i5k 2 ай бұрын

Regardless of culture, passenger/ aircraft safety should be priority and carried out to the highest standard.

@cee_el 2 ай бұрын

@@maxwhitestone6674cultural thing? You’re working in customer support here. A greeting would be the norm regardless of any culture

@barryram2605 2 ай бұрын

@@cee_el says someone who clearly never has set foot in algeria.

@FirstNameLastName-hahaha 2 ай бұрын

@@barryram2605 Some people should just be banned from travelling

@rickschweizer935 2 ай бұрын

As a former Inflight Supervisor for a legacy airline, I can honestly say that I have never seen such a total degradation of duties. Thanks for the informative video Noel 👍

@talion7268 2 ай бұрын

You'd be more than amazed to see the unbelievable neglect of practically ever single sector you can think of in Algeria

@nasserziri 2 ай бұрын

Of course, Royal Air Maroc is best at transporting paedophiles of all stripes to Marrakech and sending Oum shanta (the Moroccan woman with the suitcase) to her favourite destinations in the Persian Gulf states.

@wassimmestari7030 Ай бұрын

@@talion7268 im from morocco and I think the hate towards algeria is exagerrated. Maybe this video was filmed on a bad week.

@talion7268 Ай бұрын

@@wassimmestari7030 well here's the thing there are some extremely kind and gentle Algerians that they could be some of nicest humble people you'll ever meet, but they're rare and so you'll meet much more angry and careless Algerians on the Streets and entreprises than you'll meet the good ones

@wassimmestari7030 Ай бұрын

@@talion7268 then ig we both know it's not the Algerians' fault...

@david5uper529 2 ай бұрын

Welcome to AIR ALGERIE, we could not possibly care less.

@wolfgangkranek376 2 ай бұрын

"YOU wanted to fly with us." -- Air Algérie advertisement

@adansylvestres8080 2 ай бұрын

We care even less about what your opinion !

@wolfgangkranek376 2 ай бұрын

@@adansylvestres8080 We won't get payed for flying with Air Algérie? Scandaleux!

@michelleroberts6597 2 ай бұрын

lol.

@dzmalpoozo3177 2 ай бұрын

as an Algerian i'd say u guys haven't seen anything yet 😂😂

@aekhassei 2 ай бұрын

Thank you for your honest checking, I'm a simple Algerian citizen and I sent your video link to air Algérie custom service hopping that there is someone who's going to get the message. Thx

@JasminedeMassilia 2 ай бұрын

Merveilleux.... depuis le temps qu'on critique cette compagnie de M.... Ils n'ont aucunes dignité ces sal.... 😡😡😡 Pire compagnie au monde. Des billets extrêmement cher... un lyon/Alger c'est presque qu'un Paris New York l'été pour un service plus que mediocre ...une honte !

@rikomouchet9100 2 ай бұрын

Who cares in algeria hhh try with me tebboun

@Khal.Amr.98 2 ай бұрын

They saw your video, and guess what? They'll fix the company by making the services worse than they already are 😂

@samhil2773 2 ай бұрын

@@Khal.Amr.98🤣🤣🤣🤣

@bonvoisin2897 2 ай бұрын

There may be some truth to this guy's story, as all airlines have the positive and the negative. But, the exaggeration and amplification of the negative in this guy's narrative smells something cynical. I feel that that this guy either holds some personal grudge (political perhaps or otherwise) against Algeria, or he may be an agent compensated by a third party (i.e., a country enemy to Algeria) to bad-mouth Air Algerie, hence Algeria. Long Live Algeria! Eternal glory to the millions of martyrs who liberated Algeria.

@zdx4988 2 ай бұрын

Bro...we Algerians hate our national airline because they hire their staff using Bureaucracy.. I can't imagine how disappointed a foreign individual would feel flying with such a Catastrophic airline.

@Rusky13 2 ай бұрын

Is the staff algerian ?

@akm90115 2 ай бұрын

@@Rusky13 absolutely

@zdx4988 2 ай бұрын

@@Rusky13 Yea but you can say it mainly consists of bunch of No-Good-for-nothing morons.

@Ab-cj6gl 2 ай бұрын

@@Rusky13the staff are Algerians but most of them are working there not because they have great resume but just because they have a family member who's already there or they know some high end guy in the country

@benmansouradel575 2 ай бұрын

@@Ab-cj6gl yup yup agreed

@UnusSedLeo-w5l 3 ай бұрын

Air Algerie.... Yeah. Eh, no thank you. Thanks for taking one for the team, though.

@whiskers78753 3 ай бұрын

I know Noel tried to make excuses for them saying that maybe it was just on one flight, but lack of cleanliness is systemic. That plane hasn't been cleaned for a long time.

@daluxnutz 2 ай бұрын

If Thats business class or premium, I would hate to see regular economy

@BrilliantDesignOnline 2 ай бұрын

@@daluxnutz Well, you know, goats, chickens, steerage...

@RossLey-yf9rb 2 ай бұрын

like it is better on AAL, Delta, Spirit,etc...give me a break ...traveled with Air Algerie before and I'd take that over United, Delta, AAL...at least their door aren't blowing up in skies

@camotech1314 2 ай бұрын

Let's hope the Canadians don't get roped into using them too much 😂

@mikes747 3 ай бұрын

Safety is a priority for me! It shouldn't matter how bad a day the crew are having, they shouldn't miss the basics!

@michelleroberts6597 2 ай бұрын

True.

@Luzgoishzre 2 ай бұрын

As an algerian, I'm not really surprised, tbh they all have an attitude and a big ego for no reason

@alexanderschroeder 3 ай бұрын

Automatic subtitles showing that Noel presents an "immunity" kit after presenting the icky state of the cabin made my day 🙂

@Kellyyy44 2 ай бұрын

😅😅😅😅

@joeking22 2 ай бұрын

I saw that too. Made me laugh.

@becsterbrisbane6275 2 ай бұрын

lololol

@ades.3327 2 ай бұрын

I caught that too lmao

@steve-vx3lx 2 ай бұрын

lmfao

@Ranoldopereztroika 2 ай бұрын

The fact that you sat on the exit row and received no briefing raises big questions about the safety of this airline.

@gigiarmany4332 2 ай бұрын

wrong..briefing is only for passengers seated in rows directly in an emergency exit, his seat is only close to an exit, separated by the wall

@BonniesMoToRanch 2 ай бұрын

There are Flight Attendants by that exit. never seen an airline having a briefing card there, so you could argue that this is actually safer than other airlines lol

@danoneall4013 2 ай бұрын

I have sat in exist seats prior to covid and was brief. After covid, I've never been briefed. I fly 4 times internationally per year.

@sarahoutamonbuilds 2 ай бұрын

@@danoneall4013I've never brifed a passenger sat at a flight attendant manned exit (have been a flight attendant 18 years, 60 flights in the last 30 days......)

@MainInternetUser 2 ай бұрын

And Algerians dare to say that their airline is better than Royal Air Maroc that has modern planes 😂

@emylolita1846 Ай бұрын

I’m from Algeria and I’m glad you exposed air Algérie I hope more people can do the same

@kategibb5245 3 ай бұрын

I lived in Algeria in the 70s and used to fly from Algiers to Annaba,near Tunisian border.We were always so pleased to get off that flight in one piece.We called the plane the flying pig.Probably not an original name, but very apt.

@florianpelin 3 ай бұрын

Air nightmare

@hornslane 2 ай бұрын

Same here, I was working in Skikda!!

@lontongstroong 2 ай бұрын

Air Wesh

@RossLey-yf9rb 2 ай бұрын

don't expect luxury on low cost ...maybe try Delta or spiritairlines

@Donknowww 2 ай бұрын

@@hornslaneIts a beautiful City right? And the Region around the City as well as the Country itself? I heard the Coast is Mountainous, forested and beautiful.

@cepavrai 2 ай бұрын

As an Algerian national and Air Algérie fréquent flyer, I can tell you that you are far from the truth : Air Algérie IS Notorious for not giving a crap about service, customer satisfaction or safety. Really. They only (pretend to) care if there's a VIP on board. You can still get an exceptionally good service and flight, by accident, the odds would be around 90/10.

@MrBenMhidi Ай бұрын

Not true 😅... you're just liar...try other companies

@HassenDriadi Ай бұрын

Typical tebboun supporter, air Algérie ki zebi @@MrBenMhidi

@soli_soli Ай бұрын

@@MrBenMhidi i know its hard to accept it, but air algerie is just a trash company who give a f*ck of their customers..

@dahibi2 Ай бұрын

Jut shut up

@NomenClature-o8s Ай бұрын

@@MrBenMhidiI tried Air France and Swiss Air. Both wonderful experiences.

@jackboon3247 3 ай бұрын

The video speaks for itself, even if you were on mute we can see the airline is shit. Thanks for the video.

@abdelkadermehiz9407 2 ай бұрын

@@jackboon3247 Real I didn't hear most of what he said like I skipped my focus towards the cabin that I myself thought of it as good, I been in Air Algérie 737 it was way better but this ugh 😫

@jackboon3247 2 ай бұрын

@@abdelkadermehiz9407 Honestly would say the main issue is safety. You can have a bad day at work, you can have an untidy plane, but safety checks should never be skipped. They are the basic standards not paid extras.

@abdelkadermehiz9407 2 ай бұрын

@@jackboon3247 actually the 2 main things things that everyone have no excuse of lacking are safety and cleanliness and you saw Air Algérie videos hhhhhhh

@michelleroberts6597 2 ай бұрын

lolololololololololololololol

@bonvoisin2897 2 ай бұрын

@Jay_Force_One 2 ай бұрын

I hate flying. It’s not that I’m afraid of flying, it’s the actual process of flying. Rushing around, people everywhere, security, boarding, all the stupid slow people, sitting in a cramped seat for hours doing really nothing. If I can drive…..I will. So this dude is an absolute champ. He does it for basically fun, but to also gives us a lot of insight on all of it. Couldn’t do it. Glad he does it for us.

@FreedomPartisan 2 ай бұрын

He does it for a living. Not for us.

@themalhotras1597 6 күн бұрын

@@dmitritrotsenko7819if you were rich, you wouldn’t hate life

@houdasmith7226 2 ай бұрын

As an algerian myself i can confirm that thank you for you honesty

@billkeller5555 2 ай бұрын

Well Noel, that’s a very VERY generous and understanding description of the Air Algerie cabin crew on your first leg. That disregard for basic safety is telling and I would not consider this to be an acceptable carrier for my needs. This is your best work yet, not joking. A polite, understated and unmistakably visible exposé of dangerous incompetence.

@Phiyedough 3 ай бұрын

I agree with you about the before landing checks. The primary function of the cabin crew is to ensure passenger safety so even if they neglect a lot of other tasks they should always be doing those checks.

@riadhtoumi2483 3 ай бұрын

AIR ALGERIE Don't serve pork so that was probably beef or mutton, totally agree with yout review, the company is notorious in algeria and complaints never stop, hopefully this video will get some executives and crew fired, the safety procedures negligence is unforgivable.

@Apawcalypse_Meow 2 ай бұрын

I was thinking: "Yeah, Noel those muslims were not just unwelcoming and unprofessional but also feed you pork twice. How nasty they are!". Well, the second portion of pork was passed to the new, a better crew by the crew from the first flight.

@benmansouradel575 2 ай бұрын

@@Apawcalypse_Meow buddy im algerian if they served him pork i wouldn't be surprised.

@Apawcalypse_Meow 2 ай бұрын

@@benmansouradel575 is it ok to eat pork in Algeria?

@benmansouradel575 2 ай бұрын

@@Apawcalypse_Meow well we are a Muslim country so yes pork is especially prohibited I've never seen any restaurant or any place for example a butcher that sells any otherwise other stuff that aren't halal like you would expect alcohol are available for example there many liquor stores and bars that are open legally. So from I understand everything is permissible by the government but just the pork no.

@Apawcalypse_Meow 2 ай бұрын

@@benmansouradel575 so, then why did you say that you wouldn't be surprised if they served him pork aboard? like it is something you'd expect from an Algerian airline while anywhere else it's prohibited

@gunbladeuser7442 2 ай бұрын

As an Algerian, trust me when I say that everyone hates this airline. Whenever we travel to somewhere we always make sure to take another company. Back then it wasn't always like this tbf, there was entertainment and the planes were clean. However, things have changed for the worse in modern times. They've bought 2 new planes but it's up to your luck whether or not you end up in one of them. As for the staff not even saying a hello and lack of safety measures, this is most likely an unlucky occurrence because I've never experienced that. Anyways, on behalf of Algeria and all algerians, we are sorry. Edit: tf is happening under my comment wallahi

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@مغربيةوافتخر-ع2ن 2 ай бұрын

راه مترجم غير من جوجل الجزايرين يتحدوت فقط الفرنسبة 😂😂

@oussamadz1671 2 ай бұрын

خويا سايي تتفرج فيديوهات لناس تهدر بالاونقلي كيما الفيلمات و اكتر حاجة تفيدك هي التطبيق جرب تهدر مع اي شخص بالانجليزية@@bnslm-.2688

@siska_yuri 2 ай бұрын

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@Optimistic_die_first 2 ай бұрын

@@مغربيةوافتخر-ع2نسد فمك بانية نتا لي ماكتعرفش حتى الفرونسي، السيد بانة من طريقة الكتابة ديالو ما ستعمل لا مترجم غوغل لا زعتر، عافاك ماتبقاش تحشمنا قدام الجيران هاكا🗿

@coolguywithshades34 2 ай бұрын

I’m a FA. Even though you are closest to the exit, you do not require a briefing because there is the bulkhead separating you from the exit door. Exit briefing only needed for passengers with “direct access” meaning there is no separation between their seat and the exit door.

@MH-qm3vk 2 ай бұрын

what?...selective reply?.. you could have at least apologised to Air-algérie on this point

@AMINE-dd1qy Ай бұрын

Bro don’t take his video and the comments seriously most of them are hating from a one trip experience, personally I think it’s mid not as horrible as he describing + we got excellent pilots

@madlad4206 Ай бұрын

@@AMINE-dd1qy It's absolutely horrible, just like the county and it's people lmao

@tdRftw 27 күн бұрын

@@AMINE-dd1qy any time safety procedures are being skipped, it's a horrible airline. don't fuck with that shit. what if someone had an unbuckled baby and the plane blew a tire and went into the ditch. if u have a seatbelt- you're all good. if not - big injuries. disgraceful. 2024, an airline should always put safety #1.

@diaguilaseye9692 25 күн бұрын

As a pilot in the US, you must be part of this shitty airline!!!

@steelspark115 3 ай бұрын

Omg Noel. Thanks for taking that L for the rest of us. What an absolute trashy airline. Horrible service, burnt rubber mystery meat for the "meal" and a plane itself that makes landfills look hospital-disinfected. Ugh. So glad you're recovering Noel and all the best to you and Rach on your anniversary!

@gailcal 2 ай бұрын

You are just too kind. Much kinder than I would be!! I do want edible food a comfy seat and my trash removed. I am such a princess.

@notconvincedgranny6573 2 ай бұрын

Reminds me of the old Sabena Airlines - Such A Bad Experience Never Again.

@StargazerLily82 2 ай бұрын

@@notconvincedgranny6573 my parents both worked for American airlines and they always talk about SABENA lol

@bonvoisin2897 2 ай бұрын

@PeterPeach21 2 ай бұрын

@@bonvoisin2897 little crybaby 😭

@Aeneas75 3 ай бұрын

I’ve flown with some airlines where you can tell the crew is working with what they have, they can’t make magic, but still they can provide a warm, friendly and polite service. Air Algerie looks as if they truly don’t give a damn. Awful experience, now you know better! 😅

@belamoure 2 ай бұрын

You can deduct the national character of a country- rough uncouth pretentious and incompetent.

@KHOUYADZ911 2 ай бұрын

@@belamoureLa france est a nous maintenant. Dites au revoir a votre douce france

@KHOUYADZ911 2 ай бұрын

@@belamoureLa france est Algerienne. Votre descendance se marriera avec un Algerien. Vous etes a nous, on vous possesede.

@belamoure 2 ай бұрын

@@KHOUYADZ911 Vous êtes français maintenant vous vous êtes fait avoir . Félicitations.

@AbdelHami 2 ай бұрын

100% of Air Algerie CREW MEMBERS... got their job by connection(they all know people in very high level in government .. They are privileged spoiled scumbags that is why they are arrogants,.... They did not get their job" BY MERIT" like any airline in the world ..

@michaelalongi6829 3 ай бұрын

Noel, I admire that you don't want to be like those other You-tubers, but there is no excuse whatsoever with the performance of that airline. It's their job no matter what to be courteous and professional.

@bonvoisin2897 2 ай бұрын

@soufianemimounitv4265 2 ай бұрын

Algeria still living in 1965

@Xjisjszjke 2 ай бұрын

اعتقد أن من يعيش في الماضي هو من مزال يركع للحاكم ❤

@wesleysnipes2212 2 ай бұрын

No in 1700 !

@soufianemimounitv4265 2 ай бұрын

@@wesleysnipes2212 before 1965 there was no Country called Algeria.

@MR.kit.YTbrawlstars 2 ай бұрын

アルジェリー・リなら@wesleysnipes2212

@MR.kit.YTbrawlstars 2 ай бұрын

@soufianemimounitv4265 さん

@CoucouLoco 2 ай бұрын

I'm an FA for a very large airline in Canada. You are not sitting in an emergency exit row. No idea why thr card was there however that's a main cabin door (L1) and there is the pursers jumpseat next to it. You would not be receiving a briefing.

@diaguilaseye9692 25 күн бұрын

It’s not about sitting to the exit door. It’s the services and courtesy of the flight crews. 🤦

@thepublishinggame 3 ай бұрын

Mad respect for you for keeping it all professional on what was truly a lousy experience.

@chakracoach2181 3 ай бұрын

After showing the dusty vents, dirty wall, etc., you reviewed the amenity kit. Not sure if this was a Freudian slip after commenting on the filth, but the captioning substituted the word "amenity" with "immunity." I had a little laugh, thinking you really needed an immunity kit when flying on Air Algerie!

@LordManhattan 3 ай бұрын

Reading up on Air Algerie's wiki tells me to stay far away from this airline, lol. Thanks for taking one for the team!

@CivilStig 2 ай бұрын

what's so concerning about the wiki? the English page doesn't look out of the ordinary to me personally

@JohnBand78 2 ай бұрын

@@CivilStig The plane crash they had in England because the ILS on the plane was so ancient that it didn't understand the frequency of an airport that opened after 1975?

@lorddarlo6194 2 ай бұрын

@@JohnBand78Was that the Cargo one in Coventry

@bonvoisin2897 2 ай бұрын

@Lo-to7zh 2 ай бұрын

@@bonvoisin2897you delusional man it’s just sh*t . Even Algerians despised their service and price. Blame your government for failing this while Algeria is one of the richest country for oil and gas ⛽️ 😂

@praguepersona9624 2 ай бұрын

Absolutely no f*cks given by Air Algerie. Fun to watch, but I doubt that it was to experience.😂

@tracebtc 2 ай бұрын

Wow dont u remember its a country in dev

@draco5906 2 ай бұрын

@@tracebtcjust because it's a country in development doesn't mean that staff is allowed to lack any form of basic hospitality

@praguepersona9624 2 ай бұрын

@@tracebtc Many developing countries give many many more f*cks than Air Algerie.

@tracebtc 2 ай бұрын

@@draco5906 im from this country and ppl are not stable with the corruption

@Issam-od4pg 2 ай бұрын

Yeah mate the state of the whole country is quite pathetic so this is to be expected, corruption absolutely everywhere including putting these unqualified staff in their positions@@draco5906

@Boperatrix 2 ай бұрын

Oh wow the memories. I worked the desk for Air Algérie in Montréal when I was a student. The airline was infamous among airport workers for still using Mainframe terminals for their booking system (as a Comp sci student, and tech history fan, it appealed to me 😅) Anyway: almost every passenger would ask me if we had the shitty plane with no onboard entertainment, or the "nice" one that day. For people wondering... That was around 2015.

@michelleroberts6597 2 ай бұрын

lolololololololololololololol

@joeyou2954 2 ай бұрын

Omg I've never felt so ashamed of being Algerian...we have some nice things but Air Algerie (Air CousCous) is not one of em. Sorry for your experience though!

@AlistairArbour-qi3xp 2 ай бұрын

Puhahhahahaa

@yahia9481 2 ай бұрын

فضايح 😂

@linou_77 2 ай бұрын

What do you mean with mainframe ?

@iggyodwyer1 3 ай бұрын

I highly doubt that an Airline that originates in from a muslim country would do pork. Probs very badly prepared beef.

@frogmantoad8110 2 ай бұрын

Mmmm….. bacon. 😁😁

@sim4ks 2 ай бұрын

If your beef tastes like dry pork, you really have a problem :D - but youre exactly right, the second meal also looks more like beef

@DorotaKGB 2 ай бұрын

Looked more like turkey breast that was overcooked, frozen and reheated several times

@mrvwbug4423 2 ай бұрын

Yeah you'd never see Pork on an airline that is from a Muslim majority country. I would assume the food is all technically Halal, despite the poor quality.

@marcospark2803 2 ай бұрын

It wasn't literal

@jasonbernard1277 3 ай бұрын

I think Larry David got you there 😂😂😂

@vishaldesai1988 3 ай бұрын

lol yup

@CJacuzzi 2 ай бұрын

Hahaha, I can't believe he bought it!!!!!

@gogojapansailing-kenny 2 ай бұрын

Amazing what people will believe 😆😆😆

@Skikdimtchallagh 3 ай бұрын

As an Algerian who has flown Air Algérie and who lives in Canada: I ACTIVELY avoid flying with them. Actually, everytime I fly back to Algeria, I make sure to have a layover in Paris or Marseille to MINIMIZE or AVOID altogether spending any time on their planes. Absolutely abysmal.

@jacekgarbowicz616 2 ай бұрын

Are most of their flights this bad?

@Skikdimtchallagh 2 ай бұрын

@@jacekgarbowicz616 hmmm I wouldn't say most of their flights, but a statistically significant number of them lol. There is always something wrong with them, and if it's not the cabin being filthy or the crew being rude, it's the 3 hour delays and lack of communication.

@foufou33g 2 ай бұрын

@@Skikdimtchallagh 3h ??? cute! last time I took, the connecting flight (algiers-constantine) was 6h late. what was supposed a 2h transit in Algiers turned out to be a whole day stay. No communication and when asked no one could give any answer I could have taken the train and arrived before the plan took off from Algiers. What killed me though, the crew smoking during the montreal/algiers flight. It was in 2008.

@djalalbaba-ali5716 2 ай бұрын

Tu as des vols direct avec Air Canada, c'est pas si pire

@RubenThomas 2 ай бұрын

What about flying on Air Canada directly from Montreal? The only catch I could think is that flight is not year-round.

@MayimHastings 2 ай бұрын

The reason why you are the best, Noel, is because of your huge heart. You covered everything, and mentioned all of the safety concerns while remaining classy. That kind of gentility is rarely seen these days - to the point that commenters here felt the need to have a hissy. Safe travels, and keep being you 🤍🙏🕊

@michelleroberts6597 2 ай бұрын

I was thinking that same exact thing. it gave me pause to think of how I sometimes act impulsively and how much easier life is when you just let it go.

@MayimHastings 2 ай бұрын

@@michelleroberts6597 Exactly! Hope you have a joyful week, Michelle 🥰🤗

@AverytheCubanAmerican 2 ай бұрын

That thing you rode to the plane in Montreal is called a mobile lounge, and yup, Dulles has been famous for having them! The mobile lounge was an innovative feature of the Dulles terminal design by Eero Saarinen. Besides Dulles, Eero Saarinen also designed JFK's iconic TWA Flight Center and St Louis's Gateway Arch (fun fact the Arch's elevator is unique, an elevator tram that's a combination of elevator and Ferris Wheel principles that a guy named Dick Bowser had only two weeks to design and present to Saarinen; the cars rotate which allow the cars to remain level the entire way to the top and each tram carry 40 passengers with eight capsules)! Dulles's mobile lounges each weigh 76 tons with a maximum cruising speed of 26 mph and can carry to and from the terminal building up to 90 people. Their purpose was to radically restructure the idea of airports. By the early 1960s, airports had transformed to ramifying systems of hallways. As planes grew larger, they needed more space as they lined up next to each other along the airport building. And as flying grew more popular, airports needed to have more and more gates. The result was that terminal buildings sprouted long protrusions called fingers. Hundreds of feet long, they accommodated jets very comfortably. The finger-style airport was a purgatory of walking because airports went from being able to walk straight from the entrance of a simple terminal onto your plane, now you were reduced to wandering through a structure built for giants. So when Dulles opened in 1962, it did not have fingers. Instead, after passengers checked in on one side of the terminal building, they crossed to a row of doors that opened onto a fleet of mobile lounges. While the aircraft, some one or two miles off on the tarmac, were prepared, flyers relaxed in swank waiting areas, enjoying cocktails from nearby stands. Dulles's designers thought that by shuttling from the main terminal directly to a midfield jet ramp, they could save passengers from long walking distances amidst weather, noise, and fumes on the ramp. The advent of the jet bridge and construction of the two midfield concourse buildings at this airport negated the benefits of the system. As passenger numbers at Dulles grew, they realized it was impractical to use mobile lounges. Remote concourses were constructed, and the fleet of mobile lounges was used as a shuttle between the concourses and the main terminal. In 2010, the Dulles mobile lounge system for passenger movements between the Main Terminal and the A-, B-, and C-Gates was replaced with the underground AeroTrain, while mobile lounges have continued to be used to reach Concourse D before replacement Concourses C and D are built and the AeroTrain is expanded to become a continuous two-way loop. Besides Dulles and Montreal, mobile lounges have also been used at Philadelphia International, Benito Juárez International Airport in Mexico City until 2007, JFK International, the infamous Mirabel International until passenger services ceased in 2004, Paris Charles de Gaulle, and King Abdulaziz International Airport in Saudi Arabia. Early in the space shuttle program, NASA used the Plane Mate system of mobile lounge to move astronauts directly from the orbiter to crew facilities. A modified vehicle obtained from BWI in Baltimore was used for shuttle landings at California's Edwards Air Force Base. A similar vehicle was used at the Kennedy Space Center to take astronauts directly from the orbiter to the Operations and Checkout building.

@themalhotras1597 6 күн бұрын

i love flying out from IAD bc of them! im a marylander

@worldtraveler84 3 ай бұрын

Your videos are so informative and relatable! There’s nothing worse than paying good money for a product or service and then being treated like a freeloader and like they are doing you a favor. 🤦‍♂️

@MancunianMrG 3 ай бұрын

The food looked vile and the cabin crew were a joke.

@q6ou 2 ай бұрын

@bonvoisin2897 2 ай бұрын

@MancunianMrG 2 ай бұрын

@@bonvoisin2897 You've just created a ludicrous narrative to justify your defensive position. It holds as much water as a sieve. Evidence free and truly pathetic.

@soccer2usl225 2 ай бұрын

@@bonvoisin2897you might want to check yourself for schizophrenia. The mass media in your country conditioned you on the conspiracy theory. Apparently, they have done a good job.

@Aushumanoid Ай бұрын

⁠@@bonvoisin2897there MAY be some truth to this story? There IS. Lack of cleaning, poor service and no emphasis with safety.

@djkeelo 3 ай бұрын

Love how you put airlines on blast to keep them accountable on their products and offerings. Please keep us updated if they ever reach out!

@algerianprepperbushcraft4131 2 ай бұрын

The sentence that sums it up: "I don't know, it's Algeria" 😂😂😂

@tonyyero7231 2 ай бұрын

Thank goodness it took off and landed!

@adelbenaida5597 2 ай бұрын

bro , air algerie have daily flight Montreal-Algiers since decades,,, they always lands perfectly ... damn it

@JoyNova 3 ай бұрын

The Air Algerie lounge looks like a furniture store

@abdelkadermehiz9407 3 ай бұрын

So empty hhhhh

@deenasmusicbox 2 ай бұрын

Same thoughts, with totally bashed in furniture! That was just crusty looking stuff. Gross! 🤢

@GatlingPea32 2 ай бұрын

It was so empty in fact, it looks like Liminal Spaces.

@mbappepite 2 ай бұрын

You mean it looks like Algeria, a complete sh*thole

@Issam-od4pg 2 ай бұрын

The airport looks like the backrooms it's so empty 😂

@onlineamiga 2 ай бұрын

over $2000 to be treated like that? yeah I'd be suing for a refund. That level of service is not acceptable, when you pay a premium for business/first class.

@warwickeng5491 2 ай бұрын

I've had better service on a £200 Ryanair flight

@jamiewhittle1787 2 ай бұрын

I bet you’re American as you want to sue!!!

@bl1ngy628 2 ай бұрын

@@warwickeng5491Lol yeah sure, with their 10cm wide seats.

@vikos78 2 ай бұрын

Good luck suing a dictatorship country operated airline.

@FreedomPartisan 2 ай бұрын

@@warwickeng5491Sure with their tiny seats, no snacks and no luggage allowed anywhere...

@graemerogers9101 3 ай бұрын

I thought it was quite fitting slotting The Loo Review straight after your Food Review.

@donotaskmemyname3902 2 ай бұрын

If you are clean, respectful, smiling, intelligent and literate you will never get a job at Air Algerie. This company is a microcosm of the Algerian regime.

@Unpredictable_Fennec Ай бұрын

Ok no air algerie is is an is an old unmaintained airline with old aircraft but now you're just bullshitting

@pattakheys Ай бұрын

The Algerian regime is a microcosm of the Algerian people.

@donotaskmemyname3902 Ай бұрын

@@pattakheys Wrong. Clearly you are a both a hater and an ignorant. Otherwise you wouldn't say what you said. You don't know what you are talking about.

@Unpredictable_Fennec Ай бұрын

@@pattakheys no,come here first and stay a few months then you can start bullshitting

@Unpredictable_Fennec Ай бұрын

@@pattakheys you're talking like your people are any better

@sissysyme1334 6 күн бұрын

Noel, I sure wish I had your patience and kindness. It makes me try harder.

@Jermster_91 3 ай бұрын

I hope you and your family remain safe as Hurricane Beryl gets closer to the Texas coast.

@georgefoord7087 3 ай бұрын

I love how you always give everyone the benefit of the doubt. Good job Noel you are so nice to everyone

@vicenzor9699 3 ай бұрын

Very politely pissed off Noel is my favorite Noel

@user-dy7ld1pi6x 2 ай бұрын

As an Algerian, I appreciate your honesty

@salahdehina9733 Ай бұрын

Once my dad flew Air Algerie and the flight attendant told him to sit where the wing is even though my dad paid for a different seat as he didn't want a view of the wing. He told the flight attendant that so he got annoyed and replied "Okay no problem I'll just break the wing off so you can have a better view"

@AdamBer-ir6eg Ай бұрын

Yes, they're such uncivilized people in that country, talking from experience

@jeffroberts532 2 ай бұрын

Noel, I find your vids fascinating! My wanderlust is lived out vicariously through them. You are such a decent chap. Thank you so much for sharing!

@noelphilips 2 ай бұрын

Glad you like them!

@brunoluizfer 2 ай бұрын

Hi Noel, In Canada, passengers are randomly selected for a primary bag inspection before the x-ray (usually they just swab your belongings and test it for illegal substances). What happened there is that you were one of the “randomly” selected passengers for that inspection. During the x-ray part of the process your bag may be selected again for inspection due to something that was observed through the x-ray (I don’t know if that was the case as you don’t show that part of the process in your video).

@HB45175 2 ай бұрын

Why?

@carlramirez6339 2 ай бұрын

I got a randomly bag inspection in Singapore too

@johnpollard4158 3 ай бұрын

Did anyone else notice the grease stains on the bathroom ceiling that matched up with where the top of his head would touch? Bleh.

@Jamie-Fox 3 ай бұрын

Do not want to know from what that stains comes from..revolting indeed 🤮

@frogmantoad8110 2 ай бұрын

It reminds me of the windows in the DC metro. We call it Jery Curl Juice. 🤮🤮🤢🤢

@peoplesdemocraticrepublico4698 24 күн бұрын

We call it Air Couscous 😅😭

@mariekatherine5238 2 ай бұрын

Security checks? Why bother when the plane is more dangerous than anyone or anything on it!

@op-nd4bd 3 ай бұрын

Crew members that serve the passengers are the reason why aviation is the safest mode of transport. If they aren't there, eventually there will be situations where some passenger is standing when the plane hits the ground, possibly in the lavatory etc. That can really kill someone, so it's not a minor violation of safety. Especially concerning when it's dark outside and people don't know when the plane will hit the ground. I've seen videos where there were people sleeping on the economy row without seatbelts on, no crew, and the plane just started to land. I think we need to speak up against these kinds of practices. Poor customer service on the other hand is something that won't physically harm anyone.

@thany3 3 ай бұрын

> Poor customer service on the other hand is something that won't physically harm anyone. Unless it means you can't get a drink. Staying hydrated is more important on an aeroplane because you don't really notice how quickly you dry out.

@ianjones7488 3 ай бұрын

"Poor customer service on the other hand is something that won't physically harm anyone" Is that an excuse? Besides being a common courtesy, good service will bring in business.

@jon.limjap 2 ай бұрын

If your flight crew doesn't brief the people in the emergency exits, nor do they check people's seatbelts nor do they take trash away, you're only one bad turbulence or emergency landing away from actual physical harm.

@thany3 2 ай бұрын

@@jon.limjap Then again, the legal system in Algeria might work (or not work) in their favour. So why would they care?

@jon.limjap 2 ай бұрын

@@thany3 exactly. Happy that Noel pointed out one more backwwards airline to avoid at all costs.

@clairedobson2240 2 ай бұрын

You are a brave man Noel. Thanks for flying so we can avoid

@2busaman 2 ай бұрын

I do love your restraint on not slating them. I do like watching your videos as unlike quite a few other aviation KZbinrs, no names mentioned. CoughSamChuiCough. You actually pay your way to fly and will give an honest review. Keep them coming 👍

@oldandintheway9805 2 ай бұрын

As an experienced aircraft mechanic, I can tell you that getting onto an airplane with indications that nobody really cares is paramount to playing Russian roulette. You are at the mercy of numerous people who literally have your life in their hands. When something happens to that aircraft due to somebody not doing their job, there is NOTHING you can do, but ride it to the ground. A passenger boarding the Hawaiian jet that lost it's top in flight, noticed several rivets missing before she boarded, but got on anyway. Go figure!

@richardsanchez5444 Ай бұрын

Question, every time a plane lands does it need or have to get inspected before it takes off, and can it get reloaded and take off without any sort of checks?

@Malabus73 2 күн бұрын

Safety is paramount. Great video, Noel.

@UncleReg 3 ай бұрын

The CAA will be calling Air Algerie In the morning.

@ReinSouls 3 ай бұрын

No they won't and the airline knows it. That's why they feel comfortable sending that plane to Canada.

@andrewbeadle9168 3 ай бұрын

@@ReinSouls thats why they DONT fly to UK.. they wouldnt get away with it

@RainbowLovingRainbow 3 ай бұрын

Doubt it. Quebec kinda does their own thing regardless.

@VakishIndrajith 3 ай бұрын

@@andrewbeadle9168They do fly to the UK, to London Heathrow.

@jettcrichton7261 3 ай бұрын

@@andrewbeadle9168they fly to Heathrow😂

@Cal1gula666 3 ай бұрын

I've flown Air Algerie quite a few times. Algerians call it "Air Peut-Etre" with good reason.

@antonioarroyas7662 3 ай бұрын

That name sums up Air Algerie so well!

@REALcatmom 3 ай бұрын

For those who don’t speak French, “Peut-être” means “maybe!” Air Maybe.

@amarchergui5714 2 ай бұрын

or air couscous

@adelbenaida5597 2 ай бұрын

lie, we dont call like that

@Mossa444 2 ай бұрын

@@amarchergui5714 خونة

@suefitz2498 2 ай бұрын

Oh dear 😮. You are too kind in your words Noel. The crew attitude aside, it’s the lack of safety inspections that did it for me. ❤

@almightyz125 2 ай бұрын

The fact that you got a t-shirt on that says "superdry" and get served a piece of beef that is in fact superdry is funny as hell😂😂

@francinesicard464 2 ай бұрын

I'm not surprised at all. It was already so in the 80s. Imagine 40 years later and still no improvment! Airline to be boycotted. Period.

@quinquiry 2 ай бұрын

the whole country should be boycotted

@Alex_Gordon 2 ай бұрын

impossible bueraucracy, nepotism and corruption is eternal in Africa

@quinquiry 2 ай бұрын

@@Alex_Gordon like the two digit IQ's

@jalildriss7079 2 ай бұрын

It has been boycotted for ever since it was created and went bankrupt like twenty times Lmao. the government keeps it alive cuz of internal regional STAFF reasons and EXTREEEEEEEME corruption

@oussamaouaissa9118 2 ай бұрын

@Alex_Gordon not all counties

@kendrapratt2098 3 ай бұрын

“Desert-y bits…salad-y bits”😆Also, beautiful airport. I suppose the mirror exists because the inflight entertainment doesn’t function 😂

@mauk2861 3 ай бұрын

You are supposed to make faces to keep yourself entertained!

@TheAverageGuy12 2 ай бұрын

@@mauk2861 "Peek-A-Boo!"

@mhamzaib 3 ай бұрын

"Vegetarian Chilli", isn't that just a fancy name for salsa? 😂

@kingsharkoon 2 ай бұрын

Actually, chilli is by default vegetarian. That's why the meat version is called 'con carne' (with meat). 😊

@Archduke17 2 ай бұрын

Noel's Texan neighbors will unfriend him for vegetarian chili.

@bcosta83 3 ай бұрын

I don’t think they’re trying hard at all. From the video, it appears safety is an afterthought. How does an airline allow their planes to be that disgusting? It appears it’s just rude people, with no pride in what they do.

@NOUH_26 2 ай бұрын

I live in algeria and flew with them a couple of times and to be honest the experience is different from flight to flight sometimes it's clean and the crew is nice and other times they are horrible and they make you board the plane then stay in it for an hour with the a/c off before takeoff !

@liban2399 2 ай бұрын

I’m pretty sure what happened at Montreal Airport security is that you went into the Business Class/Visa Infinite Privilege line and instead of letting you go straight to security, the CATSA employee decided to randomly select you for an additional check. The same thing can happen in the other section (Economy) but because of the higher passenger volumes, it’s obvious it’s a “random selection”. A pre-check before security is not standard for every passenger at Canadian airports.

@lorikremer2709 2 ай бұрын

Because you're open minded, humble, and honest, I trust when you question safety and service. Thanks, Noel.

@timothygregor9828 2 ай бұрын

You're a whole lot kinder than I would have been.

@emiliovanderzwan4564 2 ай бұрын

Hi Noel, I‘m a flight attendant and at most airlines an emergency exit briefing ist not mandatory, if a cabin crew member is seated at the exit.

@Calebs_Aviation 2 ай бұрын

Great video Noel! I would probably still try Air Algérie someday as I want to fly every airline to every country! Also, I love the people movers like at Dulles however Dulles’ are better and finally I love that trash can tip and I want the “I am a waste disposal bin, plz feed me!” Line in EVERY LOO REVIEW! It was the funniest thing in the whole video! 😅 Cheers 🥂 mate!

@joeyou2954 2 ай бұрын

Thank you for this much needed honest review. I hope the guys working at Air Algerie watch this and take notes, but i'm not optimistic

@NurseViv 10 күн бұрын

This whole video had my CRYIN 😭😂😭😂😭 very entertaining and yes thanks for taking one for the team!! 🥴🙂‍↔️😆

@flowerofscotland1797 3 ай бұрын

Even if the crew are having a bad day, there is no excuse for poor customer service. Not only was the service poor, the safety breeches alone should be shouted out for everyone to know. I get your not the type of person to pull them apart but you should be putting in a full complaint about the experience of your flight

@MerouaneELMIR 2 ай бұрын

it's not about a bad day, it's just the norm and it's very bad

@thebouncer9107 3 ай бұрын

The only experience I have had on a business class flight that was worse than this was on EgyptAir from Johannesburg to Madrid. The angled seat was awful, the crew was utterly lazy and sullen, the food was inedible and it was impossible to get a drink.

@CarolFremel-my4hs 2 ай бұрын

Been Egypt air - prayed all the way

@orlabuckley9641 3 ай бұрын

Noel, last year for my 50th birthday I went to the US firstly Seattle but travelling from Dublin to Seattle was 400 euro more direct than Dublin to Calgary and then Calgary to Seattle and because we had a connection (my hubby and my niece) to Canada we had to get a Canadian visa even though for only a few minutes and I only discovered this the night before our flight but managed to get it and a few stressful flights later we arrived in Seattle so I'm not surprised you needed a visa in Algeria for just a connection, this is such a pain

@KDill29 2 ай бұрын

Man, you were like Casper the Ghost on that airplane and, there was not a soul in that airport. 😂😂😂 Love the videos Noel!!!

@OisinOConnor-e2n 2 ай бұрын

We need to get Noel to 1 million subs asap honestly love the vids only KZbinr I actually search up on purpose to see if there are any new videos !

@Adam-yb2ei 2 ай бұрын

Air Algirie is officially crossed of my list. Wait they were never on there. Great video Noel

@213-z7u 2 ай бұрын

Don't need you.

@oumeimaboucenna7340 2 ай бұрын

You did a favor for air algeria😂

@adelbenaida5597 2 ай бұрын

Dont come to us

@abdelazizmetali1938 2 ай бұрын

Guys he is not against algeria he is just against taking a flyt with air algerie😂@@adelbenaida5597

@thecw301 3 ай бұрын

I remember the shuttle "buses" that taxi you to and from gates at Dulles. The only difference is that they are full height, with rather large wheels so they don't have to lower down like these.

@michaelkitchin9665 3 ай бұрын

I was one one of those in March. It felt very odd.

@biremoneria1643 3 ай бұрын

how come your comment was 3 days ago as it just uploaded 1 hour ago?

@thecw301 3 ай бұрын

@@biremoneria1643 Paid members sometimes get videos before the general release on Sunday.

@Bob-s9z7r 3 ай бұрын

Take care sir.....

@TakumiXD 3 ай бұрын

@@biremoneria1643if you’re a member you get the videos early

@Cat_herders 3 ай бұрын

That terminal is beautiful.

@algerianaviation9653 2 ай бұрын

Thanks for your video . But I just want to clarify something, the food is not from the air Algérie catering , the food is boarded in Montreal . But it doesn't justify the POOR in flight service. I'm so ashamed as I'm an air Algérie aircraft engineer. I hope that we can improve ourselves in the future .

@myt763 2 ай бұрын

what aircraft do you uphold in Algeria? is it in Alger?

@algerianaviation9653 2 ай бұрын

@@myt763 we maintain all Air Algérie fleet aircrafts composed of ATR72, B737- NG, and A330. we do uphold other companies'aircraft too. And we are based at Algiers in the biggest Aircrafts maintenance facility in Africa, which by the way was bolted by a Canadian company (SNC LAVALIN).

@badiskebsisi6541 2 ай бұрын

The food is from canada true Air Algérie selected no one else Still the same from the time I quit unfortunately from my country What I can say : it’s a state of mind to be banned that’s it And let’s raise By the way I’m A/C engineer as well Wish better future to my homeland company with the coming generations 🇩🇿🇩🇿🇩🇿🇩🇿🇩🇿❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

@badiskebsisi6541 2 ай бұрын

@@algerianaviation9653 The biggest in Africa are you sure Based on what ?? I have been in some in Africa as well the air Algérie one I did not noticed what you said unfortunately I which that my country leads in this field but believe me we still far behind 🇩🇿❤️

@tayebtayeb4090 2 ай бұрын

@@badiskebsisi6541 بوركت

@BIGZARG 2 ай бұрын

No excuses for the poor crew. Putting passenger safety is top of the list. They failed big time. Inexcusable.

@barryfletcher7136 3 ай бұрын

Perhaps the multiple layers of "security" are a job-creation program.

@Jamie-Fox 3 ай бұрын

What is new in such countries..

@frogmantoad8110 2 ай бұрын

Socialism in action!

@ITAviation1 2 ай бұрын

Maybe it's done for security reasons. When j went to Guinea-Bissau last year I had my passport checked 2 times: The first time, I was stamped out of the country and the second time by Portuguese immigration officers (because Guinea-Bissau is a known hot-spot for people trafficking).

@NomenClature-o8s Ай бұрын

Same with the TSA. It was a job creation program for….well.

@barryfletcher7136 Ай бұрын

@@NomenClature-o8s I recall when the airport -employee security screeners were replaced with the TSA. Generally, professionalism greatly increased after the TSA was created.

@jblyon2 2 ай бұрын

I have a feeling this is going to become the new official American Airlines flight attendant training video

@michelleroberts6597 2 ай бұрын

lol

@Blackmoon9u9 2 ай бұрын

Of corse

@l3v1ckUK 3 ай бұрын

"Like it or lump it." You can take the man out of northern England, but you can't take northern England out of the man.

@Eurobazz 3 ай бұрын

Noël is from the East Midlands and not the north. That's why he referred to the bread roll as a cob.

@l3v1ckUK 3 ай бұрын

@@Eurobazz in terms of accents and phases, the Midlands counts as the North.

@wintersnowowen2254 3 ай бұрын

I wouldn’t describe his accent as Northern. There’s a bit of a northern tinge but it’s more southern sounding.

@Eurobazz 3 ай бұрын

@@wintersnowowen2254 He's from the East Midlands, hence the cob reference for bread roll.

@leonardhpls6 3 ай бұрын

Ain't no northerner in this video 😂 behave

@lyestabai6353 Ай бұрын

I dunno what happen the crew but last time when on algerie Airlines the were so kind and i was first class.

@lindseyhudson1274 2 ай бұрын

The sky lounges at Dulles are the best part of flying to see my family on the east coast. (The worst part is now having to walk for miles to the baggage claim lol) Except when they are absolutely packed! lol

@ryanboulton-lear3364 3 ай бұрын

In regards to your seat being an exit "row" This only applies to seats sat directly next to the door on your left/right hand side, overwing exits for example. The seat you are is what is classed as a restrictive seat therefore in an emergency you may be called upon to open the main exit on the other side of the bulkhead, but that would only be explained and discussed with you at the time of the emergency. Appears this airline places the card just to give you a heads up that it is an expectation of you in an emergency, but your not required to be spoken about this by the crew before departure as it only becomes an "exit seat" shall we say when a potential emergency occurs. Hope that helps!

@jj-if6it 3 ай бұрын

I thought that said AIR ALLERGIES

@sodadrinker89 3 ай бұрын

I mean, it might as well be.

@V4raggare 3 ай бұрын

14:11 Hair Allergies

@ginyuTV 3 ай бұрын

might as well be considering how filthy the plane is

@Northernmike100 2 ай бұрын

Allergic to work! 😂

@127dot0dot0dot1 3 ай бұрын

@Noel Philips have you ever seen anything so dangerous on one of your flights you've felt compelled to call the authorities?

@alantheskinhead 2 ай бұрын

Shame you didn't get out the airport. I was told many years back that Algeria was dangerous and should be avoided at all costs. I went as I wanted to see Timgad and other Roman ruins. Well it could not have been different from the truth. I was made welcome everywhere I went, hotels were what I expected, the usual food poisoning, trots etc. Police and local soldiers on guard were not threatening and advised me about safety. Tour guide was excellent as was the tour transport. The place as it's usual issues with pickpockets and we saw one get caught in city and it was instant justice. As for air safety, well that is just how it is. It ain't no BA, but you got there. Is a swinging door an issue? I would be more concerned on the mechanics and condition of the aircraft.

@autvmnr0y 2 ай бұрын

I guess people just tell you Algeria is dangerous because it’s a Muslim country but to be fair we don’t have that much crime rate, it’s pretty low for an African and Muslim country.

@shush912 2 ай бұрын

I frequently fly Air Algerie, mainly between London and Algiers. I think their main issue is business class service as I found the service in economy class to be perfectly fine. They have a meal service despite the short length of a flight and they even come around serving tea and coffee! However, their planes have seen better days and they are a tad bit filthy however the airline have ordered A350-1000's and A330-900's and I hope their service and cabin maintenance improves with the arrival of these new jets!

@Calebtheger55 3 ай бұрын

Noel you have made me really want to go on a lot more flights when im older thanks.

@moharr3582 2 ай бұрын

I'm Algerian living outside of the country, I take Air Algerie a lot to go back home, from my experience it really depends on the destination and your luck, for some reason all of my flights from Paris have always been newer cleaner planes, and nicer crew but the food isn't usually the best honestly. I took a flight from Vienna once and it was nice on the going flight but the return flight was bad, old plane and crew wasn't that nice, all domestic flights are crap, lets say it as it is. Another thing is that those A330's that go to Canada will soon be changed to the new A330 neo I believe, and there are other A330's that are newer and cleaner, the one you flew on is from 2004 I believe, they're expected to be out of service by the end of this year or something, I don't remember the details but an employee at Air Algerie told me that once. In general it's not the worst airline, I've had bad experiences even with European airlines before, but it's not up there, it depends on your luck, what you got was the worst of the worst, but definitely their best isn't anything amazing but still better than this, I personally like to fly with them since outside summer holidays (which is when I usually visit) flights are cheap and they offer 23kg of luggage in the basic ticket, I can fly for as low as 190 euros return from Paris with luggage, to me it's worth it, as Air France would cost double with luggage, and from my experience you don't get much better, the planes are in the same shape and crew is usually at the same level, for that particular flight atleast.