I found a bootleg Zildjian.

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[@the.drum.thing.]

Turns out it's the old logo from the band 21 Pilots, even with this info it brings up no results lol. It has no Zildjian trademark stamp, the coating and ink logos are falling off as we speak and it has has no written history other than this new video, it's a fake Zildjian lol.

[@Croatilillious]

My guess is a 21 pilots fan started getting into drums and bought a cymbal then put that zildjian logo on there themselves along with the 21 pilots logo. That's the only thing that makes sense to me

[@snoopdoggthecertifiedg6777]

Noticed that immediately and went to check the comments; of course you beat me to the punch, lol. Very interesting nonetheless!

[@tayloraltmiller9529]

Here's a vid of the drummer from Twenty One Pilots. It was posted by Zildjian so do with that what you will. kzbin.info/www/bejne/iIK1d4hpj9KelaM (It's also interesting to note that Josh Dun of 21 Pilots often used Zildjian A's until his bandmates complained about them)

[@the_rustydoornob1164]

I feel like you’d like their music, idk about actual taste but from a musical standpoint yea

[@noahk113]

That was twenty one pilots' logo when they made good music. Kinda funny that some emo kid probably spent too much money buying a bootleg symbol just because of the logo.

[@rdavidr]

Dang that thing sounds crispy 👌

[@M4RCM0NT31R0]

David!

[@hollowwallsendmiseryforest8709]

This is the shortest liked verified user

[@rdavidr]

@@hollowwallsendmiseryforest8709 rip my career

[@forceitmusic]

​@rdavidr we still love your content nonetheless

[@noahb1383]

@@rdavidr as a drummer myself your awesome dude

[@FuzzWoof]

I just want a 10 hour channel of hitting that DXP cymbal over and over because it's so bad it makes me crack up laughing every time I hear it.

[@TheKnobCalledTone.]

I too would like to breach the Geneva Convention by asking for 10 hours worth of non-stop DXP cymbal.

[@mistaowickkuh6249]

It sounds like a steel pot lid.

[@pyniolek]

@@mistaowickkuh6249 it IS a steel pot lid, someone just unscrewed handle from the middle

[@mistaowickkuh6249]

@@pyniolek mind = blown

[@Ferrari255GTO]

This guy wants the music equivalent to CBT

[@TheKnobCalledTone.]

That bootleg is surprisingly cromulent. Possibly even better than cromulent. It's just a shame that whoever made it didn't have the confidence to put their own brand name on it, because I feel dirty for liking how it sounds.

[@Assimilator702]

I’ve had Zildjian A cymbals that sounded worse than this one so yeah......

[@aserta]

That's if you consider the angle where a bootlegger bootlegged it, but... this may be a fan made thing. It's also a machine made cymbal, not a hand hammered one.

[@caramelldansen2204]

I 900% expected it to sound like an empty tin can. How wrong I was...!

[@dropbearattack]

Tone. It seems to be a perfectly cromulent cymbal.

[@lowkeydiegoduran4724]

Same lmao

[@TeslabladePlaysMC]

That steel cymbal, even though I've already seen the previous video, is still so funny to me. Honestly, it sounds like a old baking sheet! I even went to my kitchen, grabbed my baking sheet out of "storage" (the oven), and hit it just to check. I'm no drummer, but I think that my baking sheet sounds better, somehow. (cursed content idea, use a baking sheet as a ride cymbal, just drill a hole in it and stick it on the stand!)

[@matj12]

Low-tech homemade drum sets fascinate me. Add to that buckets as toms, a suitcase as a kick drum, and something as a snare, and you would have a useable drum set. I have seen a chair used as a snare drum for playing with brushes, but I think that it wouldn't work with regular sticks.

[@bekoashitaka]

Could have one of those pizza pans with the air holes already in it as a cymbal...

[@tsm688]

I wonder if it's possible to make a steel cymbal that actually sounds like anything. Obviously the shape would need to be *WAY* different.

[@TeslabladePlaysMC]

@@bekoashitaka That might actually work! Pizza screens wouldn't work, though. I know the sound they make, and it's not even close.

[@TeslabladePlaysMC]

@@matj12 I would LOVE to see him do this!

[@Y0Y0Evan]

I was NOT expecting a bootleg Zildjian to sound that good, let alone be made of the same (or similar) bronze. Also, REALLY digging the red despite blue being my favorite color lol

[@Gunbudder]

it has to be a third shift "bootleg" where a legit cymbal factory is run at third shift "off the clock" and all the products are sold illegally and without branding. generally when you see something that is clearly bootleg but still really good quality, that is why. a lot of replacement parts without branding get on the market that way too

[@kaitlyn__L]

@@Gunbudder fun fact the Chinese government actually incentivises this, because of how it helps their economy to have extra spares to sell later or just have extra pricing variety. Just recently I saw some specialist mic arms sold at half the price with no label, and apparently the only issue was they hadn’t lubed the hinges or springs properly.

[@Assimilator702]

@@GunbudderThere are several Chinese cymbal companies at this point so obviously it was made in a cymbal factory. No one knows if this was made in a “ghost factory” as it might be simply a label that was used to boost sales.

[@caramelldansen2204]

@@kaitlyn__L Superexploitation moments compilation

[@john.glasscock]

It's not a bootleg It was made specifically for twenty One pilots and because it's a custom-made for an artist it doesn't come with serial numbers since it was never made for the retail market

[@OFWROL]

For all of those who would like the info: The |-/ symbol was the logo of the duo band, twenty øne piløts, until 2018 when it was changed to ||-//, then the psi symbol in 2021. The drummer, Joshua (Josh) Dun has used the Zildjian A Custom Ping ride for almost all live preformances, when it was changed to a Zildjian K Sweet during the ICY tour. Of course this cymbal has never officaly existed, nor has any logo been seen on any of Josh’s cymbals. If anyone has questions or if i skipped anything, go ahead and tell me, til then |-/

[@daftwatcher]

That's what I thought, I didn't know they changed it though

[@Eejit]

Fellow TOP fan, I see.

[@rileywebb4178]

I did a bunch of googling and image searching and I never saw any mentions of red cymbals or pictures of them just red drums and lighting and red reflections but no actual red cymbals. Now we can compare this cymbal to the two legit cymbals that the drummer used and see if we can find a match. It could still just be a fan who did this custom but it might have started as a legit cymbal.

[@uthertheking]

Now I know how Germans probably felt about reading out Mötley Crüe.

[@TommyAgramonSeth]

@@uthertheking I remember reading about how Motörhead, as a then-young band, were ushered at a German venue as "Moteurhed"

[@Zadamanim]

i was really scared he would say it sounded bad when I was surprised at how good it sounded lol Despite how dark it sounds when you tap on it, it splashes brightly when you crash it, plus it has a cool color, so I think this is a real winner here

[@aserta]

Paiste has reds.

[@tsm688]

you can literally see the red finish coming off too. It's not gonna look cool for long but will still have the nice sound

[@jstrandquist]

I was surprised when I heard the fake Zildjan and thought "That's actually... good? Is that supposed to be good?", then relieved when Wade confirmed that it did indeed sound pretty good. If nothing else, this channel has taught me what a good ride cymbal sounds like.

[@bloocheez3]

Man, these videos are training my ear for a thing I'll never actually do. He started playing the bootleg and I was like "that sounds fine or am I stupid?" Then he said they sounded great. Hey the sound is all that matters, boot them legs!

[@winter.soldier721]

“boot them legs” is going to become my new favorite phrase now, thank you

[@ferretyluv]

Bro same.

[@JossFromAnarchy]

0:45 Since you're curious, mate: The aforementioned |-/ logo on the red ZilFake cymbal was a logo used for a band called "Twenty One Pilots." Their drummer, Josh Dun, (don't quote me on this) most likely used those cymbals for live shows during the Blurryface era (2015-2018).

[@soraw434]

So... He somehow found one of the guy's cymbals from their touring rigs of that era... Or it's a oddly specific fake?

[@snoopdoggthecertifiedg6777]

Whatttttt? If that's true I would have absolutely loved to have one of these

[@JungleLibrary]

@@soraw434 he said Zilfake, so I'd say the latter

[@Icee7_7]

Yeah that's what I was think the entire time

[@b.c.9358]

Was just gonna say that

[@zaten-p]

that "super secret prototype" logo is actually the old twenty one pilots logo (specifically blurryface era iirc). i wonder if they a: actually sold these to twenty one pilots or b: used the logo to sell more cymbals.

[@krell.1415]

They did and do sell sticks with the blurryface iconography, so perhaps.

[@GooseCrack]

They have no affiliation with this cymbal. Josh dun has signature Zildjian sticks, and signature SJC drums and practice pads, and tyler had a twenty one pilots signature Kala ukulele for a short while, but they have never done anything in relation to cymbals. Josh has only used Zildjian cymbals that are in production. I'm dying to know where this cymbal came from lmao

[@iAmLilTrashbag]

as someone who used to LOVE twenty one pilots, seeing that the fake zildjan cymbal has their logo on it cracks me up; totally something i would've done back when i was 13

[@GooseCrack]

I'm a huge tøp fan and this cymbal has got me scratching my head lol. Josh is a Zildjian artist but has never used any cymbal that resembles this, which makes me incredibly curious about the origin of this bootleg surprisingly nice cymbal

[@BjornsTIR]

You know you're making amazing stuff when even the bootlegs are pretty good.

[@TheeAwesomecake]

I believe that symbol is the icon for the band Twenty One Pilots, and one they only used for a few years between like 2015 and 2018. The group is basically a duo with a singing guy and a drums guy so it could be related to the drums guy somehow?

[@DaBoomDude]

Just looked it up... you're right.

[@marmite-land]

So they are not 21 but only 2 ?! How decieving

[@TheeAwesomecake]

@@marmite-land pretty sure they aren't pilots either

[@marmite-land]

@@TheeAwesomecake ah... Of COURSE... I was having a fine day before i learned the bleak reality about this band.

[@cbj4sc1]

Dank that's the Twenty One Piolits logo

[@ExperimentIV]

wade, with the size dankpods is, i think zildjian would definitely respond to an email sent to the right department. it seems like it might be some kind of limited edition prototype or custom job for twenty-one pilots stuff or that it’s a weird knockoff that someone in their legal department has either already seen or would be interested in seeing!

[@ExperimentIV]

granted i do mainly vocals and electric bass, so custom shop stuff and limited edition stuff are way more common in the guitar and bass world. i’m sure that if they had some kind of authentic connection to TOP that there would have been information from the seller who sold you this. wish i could help more. the “contacting zildjian legal” route was just from me remembering that some of the wildest stuff i’ve seen in video game piracy was in photos shared by corporate legal anti-piracy departments

[@ExperimentIV]

also: after a few minutes of research, the band’s drummer collaborated with zildjian and made a set of signature sticks, and those are the same shade of red this cymbal seems to be

[@virtualvaporeon3629]

@@ExperimentIV What kind of piracy stuff are you talking about? Sounds interesting

[@Assimilator702]

@@ExperimentIVPaul Francis would know the story behind this cymbal as he was head of Artist relations and the prototype department when he was with Zildjian.

[@aserta]

It's a knockoff. Look at how the hammer strikes are done. The logo isn't properly done, not only in paint but also in angle / position. This is a fan's custom TOP cymbal OR a freebie given by TOP.

[@lardman9734]

I love the steel cymbal.. You expect it to be bad You know its bad And yet it surprises you with how bad it is

[@CaptainNomae]

I think it looks really cool. There should be a legit version of this made just because it’s so nice looking

[@Marlenebanday]

That logo is from the band twentyonepilots

[@carlouis1]

Man, I think I am conditioned to laugh whenever I hear that steel cymbal. It never fails.

[@r1n8k]

I don't play the drums. But I honestly love this channel so much. Every video is so fun and engaging.

[@_-_-_-_-_-_-_-__-]

That right there is the 21 pilots logo, and hot damn it sounds good

[@VGScreens]

You should do a shootout of the DXP with stuff you can find in the kitchen, like a cookie tray, oven rack, etc.

[@Arcade_Cat_]

I wasn't expecting it to actually be a decent cymbal! You hit it and I said, "Hey! That's a cymbal!" The fact that the red coating flakes off every time you hit it is super funny as well

[@kirbystar246]

The symbol on the cymbal (lol) is the old Twenty One Pilots logo

[@bltcatwich]

i love the way you do demos. concise and easy to hear the difference between cymbals

[@TatBou]

Ah yes, the midnight Drum thing

[@Wyattporter]

The late-afternoon-in-OP’s-native-Australia Drum thing.

[@BryanSteacy]

The 6am in Ireland Drum Thing

[@Emlif]

The commuting to somewhere in the freezing finnish winter at 8am drum thing.

[@JustAMoky]

The midnight in Oklahoma thing

[@TheSlop_18]

The midnight in Arkansas thing

[@mysticpuffy]

It's really cool to see the cymbal vibrate and morph after you hit it. Great work

[@Hmsomg]

Thanks for the frequent uploading

[@Trogdor390]

The color of that cymbal is just amazing.

[@bazzatron9482]

Man, I really just love the shimmer. It has like a chatoyance that is just mesmerising

[@jawnske]

cant wait for the all bootleg drum kit video :)

[@morgaboy01189]

the steel still makes me chuckle every time 😆

[@maxhadanidea]

2:12 the way the fuckup makes the pitch warble is sending me

[@FiftiesDad]

That staccato proto is SICK - love how much brightness and sustain there is but you can still feel the sturdiness of it.

[@aaaaeeeeffffeeeekkkkssss]

I was not expecting the bootleg to actually sound nearly as good as the real deal.

[@nowhereweareagain]

I ended up reading about the history of Zildjian cause of the remark you made at the beginning and it's wildly interesting to me. For those that don't know not only is the company 400 years old, it is still privately held by the same family that started it back in 1600's. It emigrated with one of it's ownders to the US in the 1900's and to this day they claim to use the same alloy to make the symbols that was invented over 400 years ago. Cool stuff.

[@tsm688]

I wonder how they verify that. Methods of manufacture have changed so much they can't be making it the same way. In my mind's eye they have some 400 year old cymbal which they scrape a microscopic bit off of, put it in an analyzer, then test a modern one.. Hushed silence as the machine prints a little strip of paper ... A guy reads it and thumbs up "still the same". The family cheers and breaks out the champagne

[@jc3drums916]

@@tsm688 Same alloy (B20), not same manufacturing methods.

[@jc3drums916]

It's a little more complicated than that. The original company did not move, a new company was founded. For most of the 20th century, there were two Zildjian companies, K in Turkey and A in the U.S. Sabian used to be a Zildjian factory, where they made some of the first new K cymbals after K Zildjian in Turkey folded. And I believe the founders of Istanbul (pre-split) and Bosphorus used to work at K Zildjian.

[@nowhereweareagain]

@@jc3drums916 Yes, but the people who founded the American company were the same people who ran the Turkish company. Legally they were two separate entities, but I think it’s fair to say that practically the American company was an expansion of the Turkish one.

[@evanscarce8206]

It’s been so awesome to see you branch out into several new channels with such quick and good success. Shows just how talented and entertaining you are. Love you from a fellow Parafield Airport fan

[@arianagriffin7610]

Very cool video like always :) thank you for uploading regularly :D

[@metalandmayhem0660]

I just noticed something, I think Dank uses the same song for his demo of the cymbals as the one he uses for testing headphones on DankPods! I could be wrong but the drumline is practically ingrained in my head lol

[@jonathanbost8427]

That symbol on the cymbal looks like the Twenty One Pilots logo.

[@DNVIC]

i wasnt expecting to be recommended a brand new video at 1am but timezones are great :) also, that orange color looks beautiful

[@crustynugget7398]

Please keep uploading videos, I love the content

[@GeoStreber]

"I know a real panaphonic when I see one."

[@TheKnobCalledTone.]

And look, there's Magnetbox and Sorny!

[@shrekviperiii7226]

The symbol is from Twenty One Pilots from the album Blurry Face and red and black was a huge part of the album! They changed the logo when Trenches came out so it was from then I have no idea why it'd be on a red "zilgjian" though

[@kgbofficer5629]

If I had to guess it was probably a leftover custom symbol from their tour

[@shrekviperiii7226]

@@kgbofficer5629 I don't think so bc from all the pictures I've seen of Josh's drum set for the tours he has just like normal cymbals It's prolly just like a bootleg someone made to profit off of 21 Pilots?

[@GooseCrack]

@@shrekviperiii7226 yep, Josh only used regular cymbals

[@gracie-C3]

love the sound of this red mate, really psychadellic sounding

[@oldgoat381]

I saw that and was expecting some absolute garbage but as soon as you started playing it I fell in love with that bootleg

[@remurdereht]

Nothing like a new Dank video when you're already watching the backlog of Dank videos.

[@imnotnuggets]

The symbol is a Twenty One Pilots logo

[@maxsmith8196]

I had no idea the Zildjian company had such a cool backstory, worth the read! thanks mate

[@Brannington]

Damn, crazy how clipping the edges off of that stop sign you have opened up the tone so much!

[@monkey7pyro]

That thing is gonna be so bad I can sense it *ends up being better than most of the cymbals I played, never been so wrong*

[@demonicsweaters]

I don't think it's a fake, it sounds too authentic. I would contact someone at zildjian, my guess is this was made for Josh Dunn and they didn't bother stamping it because he breaks them so quickly anyway.

[@demonicsweaters]

also you can tell from the hammering/lathing patterns that it's a real zildjian

[@Adampazaz]

@@demonicsweaters im thinking a paiste, the hammering says its def a big cymbal maker

[@barchel]

Might I say that the hammering and petina on the staccato looks beautiful

[@Arkhavist_S]

I'd actually forgotten about the steel boy from last time, and the reminder was practically a jumpscare.

[@metalmattmandude]

The logo on the fake cymbal is for the band Twenty One Pilots

[@no-one3795]

The steel cymbal literally sounded like a lid of a trash can.

[@Goabnb94]

Was expecting the same visceral reaction as I had to that steel cymbal (that you subjected us to again), but was presently surprised to find it wasn't that bad (from a noob's perspective)

[@BBMILFsProductions]

This is dank pod’s drum channel I’m calling it

[@205nd]

I was a fan of their old stuff back in there day, and that symbol on the cymbal (lol) seems a lot like the twenty one pilots logo. I know their drummer josh used zildjians so maybe it has something to do with that?

[@standardaussie]

My first ever kit was an Ashton begginer kit, it had a set of dxp cymbals that thinking about it sounded quite similar to that one. I didn't know any better, several neighbours (after I got better) said it sounds good as🤣🤣 Edit: I just remembered it even had dxp skins on it, might as well have been roughly melted down Styrofoam pressed into skins. All the hardware was dxp to😐

[@SapphiSarcasti]

I really like it. It's really sharp sounding.

[@Ginger_bit]

If it looks like a Zildjian... And it sounds like a Zildjian....

[@charliewood2.023]

2:46 bro thought he could drop the coolest groove and have no one notice

[@Theamazingme952]

It sounds a lot like the superman by goldfinger

[@charliewood2.023]

@@Theamazingme952 It doesn't

[@Theamazingme952]

@@charliewood2.023 Have you even listened to the song?

[@charliewood2.023]

@@Theamazingme952 I have, it’s more 2 and 4 surf rock, what I was referring to was the rhythm played on the red idiot which sounds really cool

[@Wyattporter]

Is that logo the 21 Pilots logo? It makes me wonder if they had signature cymbals made or something. A cursory google reveals only sticks, though, so idk.

[@john.glasscock]

They did

[@Jaqueue]

The steel cymbal made me laugh man. If you showed me this video a couple years ago before I watched dankpods, I would not have cared at all about the differences. Dank is a great teacher

[@dontletyourmemesbedreams2355]

That cymbal is a nugget of the highest class. Also... I REALLY fucking want that staccato ride. That's one of the nicest sounding cymbals I've ever heard.

[@RAEVLOS]

hey, could you do a review on the drumeo inears? would be interesting to see what you have to say about them. It probably fits better to your main channel though, idk

[@superchawks]

Just because it’s a cursed idea I wanna hear what steel hi-hats would sound like, I imagine awful but I want to know just how awful

[@bentonchiez]

I used to use steel hihats for fun, you don't wanna hear em

[@Wolfiecolada]

i was surprised how good i thought it sounded and then you came in and said the same thing

[@opkom]

Pheew.. Glad you also liked the sound.. Sounds abit like the Paiste 900 color series..

[@Rwastooshort]

Oh shit you accidentally glitched through space-time and accidentally got yourself a Zildjian 400th Special Limited Edition Copper cymbal

[@thrackerzod8347]

You have convinced me after being exclusively a strings player for years that I maybe should learn the drums

[@clayton9136]

Honestly love that sound.

[@Markiemoo142]

I'm pretty sure the logo on the cymbal is the twenty one pilots logo.

[@YoMothar]

ya know i'm pretty damn sure that's the 21 pilots logo

[@bread-gz3rl]

That steel cymbal sounds like my shop vac falling down the stairs

[@mossy3565]

I'm a huge sucker for bronze and copper aesthetics and the look of having this bright, shiny-ass orange ring on your set is so cool to me

[@jonnj9701]

That thing is DORITO ORANGE. It's not made out of brass, it's made out of polished cheeto dust.

[@reptarien]

The logo on the cymbal is for Twenty One Pilots, an emo band for teens. LMFAO

[@reptarien]

I know because I used to listen to them in middle school.

[@heIIy]

oh honey, baby, my brother, they are not emo

[@ianconklinmusic]

Uh. They aren’t emo.

[@astralecho4865]

Lol not even remotely emo

[@Techno_2301]

The fact that I'm awake when you upload and I'm in Eastern time, really makes me question my life choices 😂

[@joetrollson]

Man. Gotta get me one of those. Greetings from Mexico, mate!

[@TheSlop_18]

I was about to go to bed but when drum thing uploads I watch

[@tevorlong9581]

It sounds great! Has “a” hammering

[@marikasdaughter6263]

I like that flat gong you have, the one shown at the end of the video DXP I think you called it. Sounds great 🤣

[@UnitSe7en]

In love with the staccato proto

[@danhugeis]

The color is fascinating!

[@skylerdickson2939]

I love the full crash every beat

[@Desuzon]

Its pretty cool that it has the kitchen sink logo on it though

[@GatheredStorm_YT]

I actually kinda love how it looks and it’s so shiny too

[@Captions-Eric]

I love the color!

[@holzmann8443]

That Christmas ornament finish is either gaudy or gorgeous. I'm leaning towards the latter.

[@rrrandommman]

My kitchen bin lid makes the same sound as the steel boy when it closes! xD

[@enricos7327]

I was about to say the same! Sound like a Zildjian A!!! Pretty good and crashable, nice cymbal

[@Anonymouzor]

i can't wait to see the red paint slowly wear off as you use it

[@sherpajones]

My guess it is a Zildjian factory reject that was swiped from the scrap pile and smuggled out. Wasn't given the etched stamp and logos yet. The lathing and hammering are clearly A Zildjian line and it sounds spot on, save for being a bit mute due to the coating.

[@TheNiteinjail]

super clean that no need to worry bout the logo

[@xanafein8453]

Man. That's a dope cymbal knockoff or not I really dig the sound.

[@KillerCaitie]

I was not prepared for the noise that came from the steel cymbal.