I found a bootleg Zildjian.

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[@the.drum.thing.]

Turns out it's the old logo from the band 21 Pilots, even with this info it brings up no results lol. It has no Zildjian trademark stamp, the coating and ink logos are falling off as we speak and it has has no written history other than this new video, it's a fake Zildjian lol.

[@Croatilillious]

My guess is a 21 pilots fan started getting into drums and bought a cymbal then put that zildjian logo on there themselves along with the 21 pilots logo. That's the only thing that makes sense to me

[@snoopdoggthecertifiedg6777]

Noticed that immediately and went to check the comments; of course you beat me to the punch, lol. Very interesting nonetheless!

[@tayloraltmiller9529]

Here's a vid of the drummer from Twenty One Pilots. It was posted by Zildjian so do with that what you will. kzbin.info/www/bejne/iIK1d4hpj9KelaM (It's also interesting to note that Josh Dun of 21 Pilots often used Zildjian A's until his bandmates complained about them)

[@the_rustydoornob1164]

I feel like you’d like their music, idk about actual taste but from a musical standpoint yea

[@noahk113]

That was twenty one pilots' logo when they made good music. Kinda funny that some emo kid probably spent too much money buying a bootleg symbol just because of the logo.

[@rdavidr]

Dang that thing sounds crispy 👌

[@M4RCM0NT31R0]

David!

[@hollowwallsendmiseryforest8709]

This is the shortest liked verified user

[@rdavidr]

@@hollowwallsendmiseryforest8709 rip my career

[@forceitmusic]

​@rdavidr we still love your content nonetheless

[@noahb1383]

@@rdavidr as a drummer myself your awesome dude

[@FuzzWoof]

I just want a 10 hour channel of hitting that DXP cymbal over and over because it's so bad it makes me crack up laughing every time I hear it.

[@TheKnobCalledTone.]

I too would like to breach the Geneva Convention by asking for 10 hours worth of non-stop DXP cymbal.

[@mistaowickkuh6249]

It sounds like a steel pot lid.

[@pyniolek]

@@mistaowickkuh6249 it IS a steel pot lid, someone just unscrewed handle from the middle

[@mistaowickkuh6249]

@@pyniolek mind = blown

[@Ferrari255GTO]

This guy wants the music equivalent to CBT

[@OFWROL]

For all of those who would like the info: The |-/ symbol was the logo of the duo band, twenty øne piløts, until 2018 when it was changed to ||-//, then the psi symbol in 2021. The drummer, Joshua (Josh) Dun has used the Zildjian A Custom Ping ride for almost all live preformances, when it was changed to a Zildjian K Sweet during the ICY tour. Of course this cymbal has never officaly existed, nor has any logo been seen on any of Josh’s cymbals. If anyone has questions or if i skipped anything, go ahead and tell me, til then |-/

[@daftwatcher]

That's what I thought, I didn't know they changed it though

[@Eejit]

Fellow TOP fan, I see.

[@rileywebb4178]

I did a bunch of googling and image searching and I never saw any mentions of red cymbals or pictures of them just red drums and lighting and red reflections but no actual red cymbals. Now we can compare this cymbal to the two legit cymbals that the drummer used and see if we can find a match. It could still just be a fan who did this custom but it might have started as a legit cymbal.

[@uthertheking]

Now I know how Germans probably felt about reading out Mötley Crüe.

[@TommyAgramonSeth]

@@uthertheking I remember reading about how Motörhead, as a then-young band, were ushered at a German venue as "Moteurhed"

[@TeslabladePlaysMC]

That steel cymbal, even though I've already seen the previous video, is still so funny to me. Honestly, it sounds like a old baking sheet! I even went to my kitchen, grabbed my baking sheet out of "storage" (the oven), and hit it just to check. I'm no drummer, but I think that my baking sheet sounds better, somehow. (cursed content idea, use a baking sheet as a ride cymbal, just drill a hole in it and stick it on the stand!)

[@matj12]

Low-tech homemade drum sets fascinate me. Add to that buckets as toms, a suitcase as a kick drum, and something as a snare, and you would have a useable drum set. I have seen a chair used as a snare drum for playing with brushes, but I think that it wouldn't work with regular sticks.

[@bekoashitaka]

Could have one of those pizza pans with the air holes already in it as a cymbal...

[@tsm688]

I wonder if it's possible to make a steel cymbal that actually sounds like anything. Obviously the shape would need to be *WAY* different.

[@TeslabladePlaysMC]

@@bekoashitaka That might actually work! Pizza screens wouldn't work, though. I know the sound they make, and it's not even close.

[@TeslabladePlaysMC]

@@matj12 I would LOVE to see him do this!

[@TheKnobCalledTone.]

That bootleg is surprisingly cromulent. Possibly even better than cromulent. It's just a shame that whoever made it didn't have the confidence to put their own brand name on it, because I feel dirty for liking how it sounds.

[@Assimilator702]

I’ve had Zildjian A cymbals that sounded worse than this one so yeah......

[@aserta]

That's if you consider the angle where a bootlegger bootlegged it, but... this may be a fan made thing. It's also a machine made cymbal, not a hand hammered one.

[@caramelldansen2204]

I 900% expected it to sound like an empty tin can. How wrong I was...!

[@dropbearattack]

Tone. It seems to be a perfectly cromulent cymbal.

[@lowkeydiegoduran4724]

Same lmao

[@Y0Y0Evan]

I was NOT expecting a bootleg Zildjian to sound that good, let alone be made of the same (or similar) bronze. Also, REALLY digging the red despite blue being my favorite color lol

[@Gunbudder]

it has to be a third shift "bootleg" where a legit cymbal factory is run at third shift "off the clock" and all the products are sold illegally and without branding. generally when you see something that is clearly bootleg but still really good quality, that is why. a lot of replacement parts without branding get on the market that way too

[@kaitlyn__L]

@@Gunbudder fun fact the Chinese government actually incentivises this, because of how it helps their economy to have extra spares to sell later or just have extra pricing variety. Just recently I saw some specialist mic arms sold at half the price with no label, and apparently the only issue was they hadn’t lubed the hinges or springs properly.

[@Assimilator702]

@@GunbudderThere are several Chinese cymbal companies at this point so obviously it was made in a cymbal factory. No one knows if this was made in a “ghost factory” as it might be simply a label that was used to boost sales.

[@caramelldansen2204]

@@kaitlyn__L Superexploitation moments compilation

[@john.glasscock]

It's not a bootleg It was made specifically for twenty One pilots and because it's a custom-made for an artist it doesn't come with serial numbers since it was never made for the retail market

[@Zadamanim]

i was really scared he would say it sounded bad when I was surprised at how good it sounded lol Despite how dark it sounds when you tap on it, it splashes brightly when you crash it, plus it has a cool color, so I think this is a real winner here

[@aserta]

Paiste has reds.

[@tsm688]

you can literally see the red finish coming off too. It's not gonna look cool for long but will still have the nice sound

[@jstrandquist]

I was surprised when I heard the fake Zildjan and thought "That's actually... good? Is that supposed to be good?", then relieved when Wade confirmed that it did indeed sound pretty good. If nothing else, this channel has taught me what a good ride cymbal sounds like.

[@maxhadanidea]

2:12 the way the fuckup makes the pitch warble is sending me

[@GigaJinGaming3711]

omfg i never noticed it until now!!!

[@bloocheez3]

Man, these videos are training my ear for a thing I'll never actually do. He started playing the bootleg and I was like "that sounds fine or am I stupid?" Then he said they sounded great. Hey the sound is all that matters, boot them legs!

[@winter.soldier721]

“boot them legs” is going to become my new favorite phrase now, thank you

[@ferretyluv]

Bro same.

[@JossFromAnarchy]

0:45 Since you're curious, mate: The aforementioned |-/ logo on the red ZilFake cymbal was a logo used for a band called "Twenty One Pilots." Their drummer, Josh Dun, (don't quote me on this) most likely used those cymbals for live shows during the Blurryface era (2015-2018).

[@soraw434]

So... He somehow found one of the guy's cymbals from their touring rigs of that era... Or it's a oddly specific fake?

[@snoopdoggthecertifiedg6777]

Whatttttt? If that's true I would have absolutely loved to have one of these

[@JungleLibrary]

@@soraw434 he said Zilfake, so I'd say the latter

[@Icee7_7]

Yeah that's what I was think the entire time

[@b.c.9358]

Was just gonna say that

[@Marlenebanday]

That logo is from the band twentyonepilots

[@zaten-p]

that "super secret prototype" logo is actually the old twenty one pilots logo (specifically blurryface era iirc). i wonder if they a: actually sold these to twenty one pilots or b: used the logo to sell more cymbals.

[@krell.1415]

They did and do sell sticks with the blurryface iconography, so perhaps.

[@GooseCrack]

They have no affiliation with this cymbal. Josh dun has signature Zildjian sticks, and signature SJC drums and practice pads, and tyler had a twenty one pilots signature Kala ukulele for a short while, but they have never done anything in relation to cymbals. Josh has only used Zildjian cymbals that are in production. I'm dying to know where this cymbal came from lmao

[@TheeAwesomecake]

I believe that symbol is the icon for the band Twenty One Pilots, and one they only used for a few years between like 2015 and 2018. The group is basically a duo with a singing guy and a drums guy so it could be related to the drums guy somehow?

[@DaBoomDude]

Just looked it up... you're right.

[@Alexandre.Moonwell]

So they are not 21 but only 2 ?! How decieving

[@TheeAwesomecake]

@@Alexandre.Moonwell pretty sure they aren't pilots either

[@Alexandre.Moonwell]

@@TheeAwesomecake ah... Of COURSE... I was having a fine day before i learned the bleak reality about this band.

[@jdnart]

​@@Alexandre.Moonwell 🤣🤣

[@iAmLilTrashbag]

as someone who used to LOVE twenty one pilots, seeing that the fake zildjan cymbal has their logo on it cracks me up; totally something i would've done back when i was 13

[@GooseCrack]

I'm a huge tøp fan and this cymbal has got me scratching my head lol. Josh is a Zildjian artist but has never used any cymbal that resembles this, which makes me incredibly curious about the origin of this bootleg surprisingly nice cymbal

[@BjornsTIR]

You know you're making amazing stuff when even the bootlegs are pretty good.

[@r1n8k]

I don't play the drums. But I honestly love this channel so much. Every video is so fun and engaging.

[@ExperimentIV]

wade, with the size dankpods is, i think zildjian would definitely respond to an email sent to the right department. it seems like it might be some kind of limited edition prototype or custom job for twenty-one pilots stuff or that it’s a weird knockoff that someone in their legal department has either already seen or would be interested in seeing!

[@ExperimentIV]

granted i do mainly vocals and electric bass, so custom shop stuff and limited edition stuff are way more common in the guitar and bass world. i’m sure that if they had some kind of authentic connection to TOP that there would have been information from the seller who sold you this. wish i could help more. the “contacting zildjian legal” route was just from me remembering that some of the wildest stuff i’ve seen in video game piracy was in photos shared by corporate legal anti-piracy departments

[@ExperimentIV]

also: after a few minutes of research, the band’s drummer collaborated with zildjian and made a set of signature sticks, and those are the same shade of red this cymbal seems to be

[@virtualvaporeon3629]

@@ExperimentIV What kind of piracy stuff are you talking about? Sounds interesting

[@Assimilator702]

@@ExperimentIVPaul Francis would know the story behind this cymbal as he was head of Artist relations and the prototype department when he was with Zildjian.

[@aserta]

It's a knockoff. Look at how the hammer strikes are done. The logo isn't properly done, not only in paint but also in angle / position. This is a fan's custom TOP cymbal OR a freebie given by TOP.

[@lardman9734]

I love the steel cymbal.. You expect it to be bad You know its bad And yet it surprises you with how bad it is

[@cbj4sc1]

Dank that's the Twenty One Piolits logo

[@CaptainNomae]

I think it looks really cool. There should be a legit version of this made just because it’s so nice looking

[@VGScreens]

You should do a shootout of the DXP with stuff you can find in the kitchen, like a cookie tray, oven rack, etc.

[@Felix-Orion]

The color of that cymbal is just amazing.

[@carlouis1]

Man, I think I am conditioned to laugh whenever I hear that steel cymbal. It never fails.

[@agreeable_anger]

The symbol on the cymbal (lol) is the old Twenty One Pilots logo

[@Hmsomg]

Thanks for the frequent uploading

[@bltcatwich]

i love the way you do demos. concise and easy to hear the difference between cymbals

[@nowhereweareagain]

I ended up reading about the history of Zildjian cause of the remark you made at the beginning and it's wildly interesting to me. For those that don't know not only is the company 400 years old, it is still privately held by the same family that started it back in 1600's. It emigrated with one of it's ownders to the US in the 1900's and to this day they claim to use the same alloy to make the symbols that was invented over 400 years ago. Cool stuff.

[@tsm688]

I wonder how they verify that. Methods of manufacture have changed so much they can't be making it the same way. In my mind's eye they have some 400 year old cymbal which they scrape a microscopic bit off of, put it in an analyzer, then test a modern one.. Hushed silence as the machine prints a little strip of paper ... A guy reads it and thumbs up "still the same". The family cheers and breaks out the champagne

[@jc3drums916]

@@tsm688 Same alloy (B20), not same manufacturing methods.

[@jc3drums916]

It's a little more complicated than that. The original company did not move, a new company was founded. For most of the 20th century, there were two Zildjian companies, K in Turkey and A in the U.S. Sabian used to be a Zildjian factory, where they made some of the first new K cymbals after K Zildjian in Turkey folded. And I believe the founders of Istanbul (pre-split) and Bosphorus used to work at K Zildjian.

[@nowhereweareagain]

@@jc3drums916 Yes, but the people who founded the American company were the same people who ran the Turkish company. Legally they were two separate entities, but I think it’s fair to say that practically the American company was an expansion of the Turkish one.

[@1ittlegs]

That sir is the Twenty-One Pilots logo, who the hell bootlegged a Zildjian with a Twenty-One Pilots logo?!?

[@_-_-_-_-_-_-_-__-]

That right there is the 21 pilots logo, and hot damn it sounds good

[@mysticpuffy]

It's really cool to see the cymbal vibrate and morph after you hit it. Great work

[@Arcade_Cat_]

I wasn't expecting it to actually be a decent cymbal! You hit it and I said, "Hey! That's a cymbal!" The fact that the red coating flakes off every time you hit it is super funny as well

[@Desuzon]

Its pretty cool that it has the kitchen sink logo on it though

[@TatBou]

Ah yes, the midnight Drum thing

[@Wyattporter]

The late-afternoon-in-OP’s-native-Australia Drum thing.

[@BryanSteacy]

The 6am in Ireland Drum Thing

[@Emlif]

The commuting to somewhere in the freezing finnish winter at 8am drum thing.

[@JustAMoky]

The midnight in Oklahoma thing

[@SlopCommentary]

The midnight in Arkansas thing

[@bazzatron9482]

Man, I really just love the shimmer. It has like a chatoyance that is just mesmerising

[@charliewood2.023]

2:46 bro thought he could drop the coolest groove and have no one notice

[@Theamazingme952]

It sounds a lot like the superman by goldfinger

[@charliewood2.023]

@@Theamazingme952 It doesn't

[@Theamazingme952]

@@charliewood2.023 Have you even listened to the song?

[@charliewood2.023]

@@Theamazingme952 I have, it’s more 2 and 4 surf rock, what I was referring to was the rhythm played on the red idiot which sounds really cool

[@d00ro779oi]

Got jumpscared by the top logo

[@GeoStreber]

"I know a real panaphonic when I see one."

[@TheKnobCalledTone.]

And look, there's Magnetbox and Sorny!

[@MMBproductions119]

This is dank pod’s drum channel I’m calling it

[@metalmattmandude]

The logo on the fake cymbal is for the band Twenty One Pilots

[@DALTRON666]

Sounds way better than any real zildjian

[@imnotnuggets]

The symbol is a Twenty One Pilots logo

[@DNVIC]

i wasnt expecting to be recommended a brand new video at 1am but timezones are great :) also, that orange color looks beautiful

[@metalandmayhem0660]

I just noticed something, I think Dank uses the same song for his demo of the cymbals as the one he uses for testing headphones on DankPods! I could be wrong but the drumline is practically ingrained in my head lol

[@AndyBjerregaard]

The red bronze color actually looks really cool

[@jonathanbost8427]

That symbol on the cymbal looks like the Twenty One Pilots logo.

[@Adampazaz]

The only people I know that make red cymbals are paiste, is it possibly a color sound or something? the hammering and lines look just like the 20 inch ride they make

0:18 Zenjian and Alejian are the Squier(s) of Zildjian

[@FiftiesDad]

That staccato proto is SICK - love how much brightness and sustain there is but you can still feel the sturdiness of it.

[@shrekviperiii7226]

The symbol is from Twenty One Pilots from the album Blurry Face and red and black was a huge part of the album! They changed the logo when Trenches came out so it was from then I have no idea why it'd be on a red "zilgjian" though

[@kgbofficer5629]

If I had to guess it was probably a leftover custom symbol from their tour

[@shrekviperiii7226]

@@kgbofficer5629 I don't think so bc from all the pictures I've seen of Josh's drum set for the tours he has just like normal cymbals It's prolly just like a bootleg someone made to profit off of 21 Pilots?

[@GooseCrack]

@@shrekviperiii7226 yep, Josh only used regular cymbals

[@hooch2316]

Never seen a cymbal made from pure Irn Bru before

[@jawnske]

cant wait for the all bootleg drum kit video :)

[@rrrandommman]

My kitchen bin lid makes the same sound as the steel boy when it closes! xD

[@dontletyourmemesbedreams2355]

That cymbal is a nugget of the highest class. Also... I REALLY fucking want that staccato ride. That's one of the nicest sounding cymbals I've ever heard.

[@barchel]

Might I say that the hammering and petina on the staccato looks beautiful

[@morgaboy01189]

the steel still makes me chuckle every time 😆

[@M4RCM0NT31R0]

I have a feeling that it might be a Paiste Colorsound with a Zildjian logo...

[@no-one3795]

The steel cymbal literally sounded like a lid of a trash can.

[@sherpajones]

My guess it is a Zildjian factory reject that was swiped from the scrap pile and smuggled out. Wasn't given the etched stamp and logos yet. The lathing and hammering are clearly A Zildjian line and it sounds spot on, save for being a bit mute due to the coating.

[@demonicsweaters]

I don't think it's a fake, it sounds too authentic. I would contact someone at zildjian, my guess is this was made for Josh Dunn and they didn't bother stamping it because he breaks them so quickly anyway.

[@demonicsweaters]

also you can tell from the hammering/lathing patterns that it's a real zildjian

[@Adampazaz]

@@demonicsweaters im thinking a paiste, the hammering says its def a big cymbal maker

[@Arkhavist_S]

I'd actually forgotten about the steel boy from last time, and the reminder was practically a jumpscare.

[@monkey7pyro]

That thing is gonna be so bad I can sense it *ends up being better than most of the cymbals I played, never been so wrong*

[@EikoandMog]

@2:16 OH THANK GOD YOU SAID IT SOUNDED GOOD. It honestly sounded like the Dark Ride but a bit higher. I thought my ears were broken when I thought the fake boi was cromulent.

[@remurdereht]

Nothing like a new Dank video when you're already watching the backlog of Dank videos.

[@gracie-C3]

love the sound of this red mate, really psychadellic sounding

[@205nd]

I was a fan of their old stuff back in there day, and that symbol on the cymbal (lol) seems a lot like the twenty one pilots logo. I know their drummer josh used zildjians so maybe it has something to do with that?

[@zaphero5518]

Gosh, I love that this bootleg's part of your default stream drumset to this day.

[@standardaussie]

My first ever kit was an Ashton begginer kit, it had a set of dxp cymbals that thinking about it sounded quite similar to that one. I didn't know any better, several neighbours (after I got better) said it sounds good as🤣🤣 Edit: I just remembered it even had dxp skins on it, might as well have been roughly melted down Styrofoam pressed into skins. All the hardware was dxp to😐

[@Ginger_bit]

If it looks like a Zildjian... And it sounds like a Zildjian....

[@Wyattporter]

Is that logo the 21 Pilots logo? It makes me wonder if they had signature cymbals made or something. A cursory google reveals only sticks, though, so idk.

[@john.glasscock]

They did

[@calebo.3577]

the bootleg so good its still being used 2 years later

[@superchawks]

Just because it’s a cursed idea I wanna hear what steel hi-hats would sound like, I imagine awful but I want to know just how awful

[@probabvieh]

I used to use steel hihats for fun, you don't wanna hear em

[@maxsmith8196]

I had no idea the Zildjian company had such a cool backstory, worth the read! thanks mate

[@BrendanThompson]

1:50 Walk Through The Park for you huhduhsixhungeo wearers

[@helterskelter416]

2:13 i was prepared for you to say it sounded like crap and cite some miniscule thingy, was happy you said it sounded fine. with my eyes closed I could only really tell the difference when the prototype was being played.

[@RAEVLOS]

hey, could you do a review on the drumeo inears? would be interesting to see what you have to say about them. It probably fits better to your main channel though, idk

[@Mobilefornitemaster]

THAT IS TWENTY ONE PILOTS

[@Markiemoo142]

I'm pretty sure the logo on the cymbal is the twenty one pilots logo.

[@oldgoat381]

I saw that and was expecting some absolute garbage but as soon as you started playing it I fell in love with that bootleg

[@Brannington]

Damn, crazy how clipping the edges off of that stop sign you have opened up the tone so much!

[@YoMothar]

ya know i'm pretty damn sure that's the 21 pilots logo

[@Mannhael]

I swear that Steel DXP sounds like someone grabbed a pan out of the kitchen and said ‘yep, this’ll do’

[@Rwastooshort]

Oh shit you accidentally glitched through space-time and accidentally got yourself a Zildjian 400th Special Limited Edition Copper cymbal

[@themagicboy6548]

that logo is for twenty one pilots, don't know what they would have to do sith zildjian

[@jonnj9701]

That thing is DORITO ORANGE. It's not made out of brass, it's made out of polished cheeto dust.

[@bread-gz3rl]

That steel cymbal sounds like my shop vac falling down the stairs

[@reptarien]

The logo on the cymbal is for Twenty One Pilots, an emo band for teens. LMFAO

[@reptarien]

I know because I used to listen to them in middle school.

[@heIIy]

oh honey, baby, my brother, they are not emo

[@ianconklinmusic]

Uh. They aren’t emo.

[@astralecho4865]

Lol not even remotely emo

[@Pekkett]

I love bootleg stuff that work/sound/whatever just as good as an original one because if the original product is rare/expensive and you have a bootleg that is basically the same you can just thrash it and not have to care or get anxious about doing stuff

[@mr.pleaseparty7780]

That logo is the 21 Pilots logo I'm not sure if he ever had custom cymbals made for him or if they went into production but that's their logo

[@KillerCaitie]

I was not prepared for the noise that came from the steel cymbal.

[@Wolfiecolada]

i was surprised how good i thought it sounded and then you came in and said the same thing

[@crazy-_-Beard]

The better question is, how do they sound ???

[@evanscarce8206]

It’s been so awesome to see you branch out into several new channels with such quick and good success. Shows just how talented and entertaining you are. Love you from a fellow Parafield Airport fan

[@LocalToaster.]

I know basically nothing about drumming and this channel has taught me practically everything I know kinda funny knowing this youtuber is mainly known for their pkcells

[@crustynugget7398]

Please keep uploading videos, I love the content

[@myrmeko]

But one thing that it does really good, better than the rest, it to look absolutely phenomental. Like, god damn, look at the fiery red and that golden shine that puts the sun to shame. Wow... It's so pretty to look at.

[@discontinued_channel-j3z]

happy 400 years zildjian!

[@BBT609]

That looks mighty like a Zildjian. The bell, profile of the bow of the cymbal and HAMMER marks scream Zildjian!

[@bubbadoo10]

I was listening to the comparisons wondering "Well it doesn't sound too bad for a knock off I think?" Full expecting you to tear into it with something I just did not have the ear for. Laughed a little when you confirmed that yes it does sound pretty good. Might be quite impressive if it holds up to extensive play, then it might just have the real thing beat with it's bonus real nice looking and striking colour it has!