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Forensic Detailing Channel

Forensic Detailing Channel

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@ForensicDetailing
@ForensicDetailing 4 жыл бұрын
Someone kindly sanity checked the data and corrected it all in this spread sheet (huuuge thank you to magician) Please see corrected data in this spread sheet. docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18qiYAuiFK810Ydkmor98ADd200yfhdKGlK0pX7_Wjf0/edit#gid=0
@carbonconnection2480
@carbonconnection2480 4 жыл бұрын
Have you ever mixed a product from scratch?
@adnaanpardawala
@adnaanpardawala 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I was about to ask the same.
@scottmattern482
@scottmattern482 4 жыл бұрын
There are some interesting homemade wax videos he has made. He shows you how to make a good wax, you just need to invest in all the raw material.
@alandeacon6568
@alandeacon6568 4 жыл бұрын
@@carbonconnection2480 Yes he has made his hair fall out
@final3119
@final3119 3 жыл бұрын
The file is no longer available :(
@klasseact6663
@klasseact6663 4 жыл бұрын
What a complete, intense comparison, your truely one of the best in the business👍👍
@rossmale8715
@rossmale8715 4 жыл бұрын
Some serious work gone into creating this jon,full respect and thankyou!
@ObsessiveCarDetailer
@ObsessiveCarDetailer 4 жыл бұрын
Not much anyone can say really Jon about this video other than it is absolutely what we all love to see, fantastic. Thank you for all the hard work that went into making it 👍
@billyray94
@billyray94 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for doing this test. I know it's a lot of work, and I appreciate it.
@andysillars
@andysillars 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks John! another great comparison - On top of my huge range of detailing products (which should last me about 30 yrs, ! ! i now have yet another to try. (TAC systems shinee wax - thanks for the easy link and discount code) I do love buying and trying out new products). My mrs shakes her head and looks to the sky whenever new detailing stuff arrives in the post - although her car gets the same (well almost) treatment as mine. all the v. best, Andy
@Jahmed5635
@Jahmed5635 4 жыл бұрын
Looking smart John 👍, brilliant video as always, I’ve learnt a lot from you mate
@audriulis
@audriulis 4 жыл бұрын
After I saw the title , the first product which came to my mind was the shinee wax 👍🏻
@VStanced
@VStanced 4 жыл бұрын
been using Shinee wax for a few months now, it is great! I often use it as post wash detailer and the gloss is great and it rarely leaves any marks on the paint, super easy to work with too! just keep away from direct sun/hot panels and it'll leave a very deep and glossy shine.
@jdmphunk1
@jdmphunk1 2 жыл бұрын
How is the longevity. Jw if this is very temporary like days or a few weeks.
@markneale6538
@markneale6538 4 жыл бұрын
Just wanted to say that I think your videos are great. Taught me a lot about detailing I didn't know. Very informative tests you do. Some very good ideas you come up with for the tests. Love watching them. Keep going and power to you. Thanks for putting so much of your own time in to the videos. Much appreciated.
@ForensicDetailing
@ForensicDetailing 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome, thank you!
@AndreasSchwarzinger
@AndreasSchwarzinger 4 жыл бұрын
Secret tip: if you ever get your hand on ODK Echo, HB Sauce Montan Madness, and/or Wax-Planet Obsidian or Assassin, try and test them. By far the best waxes I tried when it comes to anvisible i crease in finish. Not sure if that really is „gloss“ or just a change in light reflections, but would be really good candidates. Thanks for the test, very thourough and conclusive!
@Jeff_Seely
@Jeff_Seely 3 жыл бұрын
John, you are the true forensic lab-type. R-spec! I am very impressed with all of this. And the making of your own waxes! Fabulous my friend!
@foehammer2003
@foehammer2003 4 жыл бұрын
Really great video!! Balanced and in depth with no waffle. Well done and thank you!
@stephenwhite5444
@stephenwhite5444 7 ай бұрын
This was a great video! I would LOVE to see a updated version of this with more/newer sealants and waxes.....use the winner of this one in the next one, include NV Lustre, maybe some Scholls products, some others.
@luckypaco1148
@luckypaco1148 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for doing these tests, in my experience, a lot of the SiO2 quick detailers and Beadmaker are shiny BUT they do not darken the paint color for that "wet look" the way polymer sealants or carnauba wax based products do.
@tonyjoe5707
@tonyjoe5707 4 жыл бұрын
A bonkers amount of effort Jon, 5* review. I've just watched another QD vid you did and Shinee was a winner there. A trend? I've also been looking at a few vids of WoWos QD and it seems to be getting some praise.
@garyjones2306
@garyjones2306 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent comparison, informed and interesting. Well done that person!For me, without a shadow of doubt , Simoniz Quickshine Detailer is head, shoulders and feather cap above anything else. It’s absolutely brilliant. Detailing sceptics will be won over. Trust me on this. Wilko’s is selling 500ml bottles for £4.50, the cheapest price in the country. If that wasn’t enough to convince you it’s now been reduced down to £2.25. That’s virtually free.! They even gave you a full refund if not satisfied. You couldn’t get vexed if you wanted too!The product was recommended to me from a passionate, knowledgeable local car detailer. Happy Days!
@gazmo3055
@gazmo3055 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Jon, So the next test could be old school waxes V Shinee wax. I have a good selection if you are still interested. I would also like to add that i really like Vonixx Blend. Keep up the good work and stay safe.
@LSD04
@LSD04 4 жыл бұрын
I applied CarPro Lite a couple of weeks ago after a 1 step with Sonax PF and I think I preferred the look of the car before I did it, wanted a solid base so still happy I did it. Bouncers is still a class product for me as I loved the way it made my car look and it’s good for dusty summer weather.
@videomaniac108
@videomaniac108 5 ай бұрын
I love your testing methodology, Jon, from a retired physicist.
@nicksdragon6929
@nicksdragon6929 4 жыл бұрын
Jon, you really put gloss readings into perspective with your work; Job well done. You showed mathematically, how good and how close each of these products really is to each other. Especially since the difference between the top and bottom products on the list was just 5 points; let me explain. We have to remember the human eye can’t even see the difference in gloss when the change is less than 8-10-points from the baseline reading. So, looking at Griots, for example, the total of six readings changed by 6 points, so when you divide the 6-point total by the 6 tests, you end up with a net change in the gloss of 1-point; basically, it’s invisible to us. When you look at your top test, TAC systems, which had 12 points from six tests, and then divide by six, the average is only 2 points from the baseline. The top product was +2 and the lowest was -3. I love it because we all feel the product after we put it on our cars to gauge the slickness, but we still can’t see the difference in the gloss. Basically, you can’t go wrong with any of these for gloss and it comes down to personal preference. On the opposite side of the coin is durability and that we have learned is very different in the products you displayed. And finally, the cost can now be weighted greater in our decision process because the products are, for all intents and purposes the same to the human eye. In this business you have to be real about expenses and the products you choose will reflect on your reputation which is how we get loyal customers and referrals. So, since the products are all about the same in gloss, durability, is what will or will not protect your reputation and bring back repeat business and it is the cost of the product that will keep you in business.
@jonandlisa2000
@jonandlisa2000 4 жыл бұрын
I’m always learning something, thanks for taking the time to do the testing 👍
@metalbyku
@metalbyku 4 жыл бұрын
You're doing great work here. Thanks!
@HypnotizinDetailz
@HypnotizinDetailz 4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video Jon, thank you so much for all of your work and efforts! 🤩😉😊👌🏻🙏🏻
@functionaldoc5054
@functionaldoc5054 4 жыл бұрын
John great video and detailed analysis and the I love have one of those meters but they are pricey . Like see you due this with cermanica and graphene coatings. RSPEC readings will give you best data on how good the paint will look. Love the spreadsheet John ❤👍
@nated4949
@nated4949 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! I used Shinee wax today on my car for the first time and it’s unbelievable how beautiful my car looks!
@ForensicDetailing
@ForensicDetailing 3 жыл бұрын
it does but a good shine on as well. most products do but im convince this and the gyeon detail spray are like shine monsters.
@mbrunskill
@mbrunskill 10 күн бұрын
@@ForensicDetailing I think CarPro Elixir would match them too
@JoeyMrTurbo
@JoeyMrTurbo 3 жыл бұрын
You really have the most amazing product reviews. I appreciate you and all the work you put into this.
@ForensicDetailing
@ForensicDetailing 3 жыл бұрын
thanks Joey
@aquatics117
@aquatics117 4 жыл бұрын
If you took price and ease of application into consideration which product would you use jon?
@steveb397
@steveb397 4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic!! I have been playing around with several combinations of products and while it’s extremely intensive the only way I have been able to consistently reach higher 90’s on the gloss meeter was with a base coating of CQuartz UK 3.0, followed by Geyon Can Coat, then Angel Wax High Gloss, then finish with P21s Concourse paste wax. It’s always a several day process but the outcome is worth it! Paste wax never lasts long over a coating but it gives it that warm glow that just can’t be recreated with a coating
@willj487
@willj487 3 жыл бұрын
Solid video. When I saw the notebook, damn. That's what makes you videos very unique and objective
@videomaniac108
@videomaniac108 5 ай бұрын
I use Gyeon's Ceramic Detailer and am really impressed with its slickness and gloss.
@NipponStiqqyPaint
@NipponStiqqyPaint 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent work as always Dad! Appreciate the time you take to do this. WOWO’s showstopper is supposed to be a pure gloss booster for car shows - if you ever get the chance. 😘
@fnagdungdagint
@fnagdungdagint 3 жыл бұрын
Wowo is appearing around here as well. I can’t take another carecare maker, there’s just too many to check out 😄
@Fantic1980
@Fantic1980 4 жыл бұрын
I know everyone raves about Beadmaker but I found it to be the worst product I've tried so far. I've never seen a comparison with Gtechniq products, I'd LOVE to see how they fair in the gloss race. I find them the easiest to work with and just gloss second to none.
@DavidC1
@DavidC1 4 жыл бұрын
i wouldnt touch beadmaker, or any P&S (PIECE & SHIT)
@Skilver-vg8oe
@Skilver-vg8oe 4 жыл бұрын
David C that’s funny, I wasted 20 bucks on a gallon and the small spray bottle I just want to use that up it sucks!
@NipponStiqqyPaint
@NipponStiqqyPaint 4 жыл бұрын
Levi White I’ll pay you a 20 to ship that to me
@CP-rm7rz
@CP-rm7rz 4 жыл бұрын
my silver metallic car glows with Beadmaker over a traditional sealant (Powerlock+, Wolfgang)
@GeeWhizRS
@GeeWhizRS 4 жыл бұрын
Lockdown hair cut... I got the same thing going. 😂
@HantsLeo
@HantsLeo 4 жыл бұрын
Lockdown weight gain too...
@jtks4490
@jtks4490 4 жыл бұрын
Great video and comprehensive comparison! My two favorites for gloss are: Tac Systems 1 Step Master and Infinity Wax Primo Wax Cheers
@FastRedPonyCar
@FastRedPonyCar Жыл бұрын
Would the Gyeon not be the best choice simply from an ease of application stand point? Seems like it's a simple spray on and wipe off as as drying aid whereas the Shinee has to be wiped on with an applicator and then wiped off.
@AnnieMaitor
@AnnieMaitor 4 жыл бұрын
Hi John - thanks for the video and all the effort going in to help us mortals. ;) It would have been great to have seen Bilt Hamber in there, particularly Finis Wax. Cheers keep up the great work.
@Schwabz33
@Schwabz33 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Sir!! Excellent attention to detail I love the deep dive on all the products I love the technical nerdy data.
@Bigladrik
@Bigladrik 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome stuff Jon mine arrived yesterday and used it today, by far the best I’ve used thanks as ever
@DiiZeh_
@DiiZeh_ 4 жыл бұрын
Shinee Wax is definitely on my wish list now! It looks to be a fantastic summer product for when you’re more interested in gloss👌🏻
@jonathanjackson1222
@jonathanjackson1222 4 жыл бұрын
Just bought Tac Systems Shinee Wax off the back of your review. I love D&D Si edition gloss so hoping this’ll top that. Look forward to some good weather so I can give it a whirl
@rimbunankhazanah9475
@rimbunankhazanah9475 4 жыл бұрын
Nice John. How about Polish Angel "High Gloss" added to the line up
@rixZR2
@rixZR2 4 жыл бұрын
@Brenton L PA High Gloss has been my favorite for a while. deep shine that repels dust. I have ordered Shinne Wax and look forward to how it looks vs. High Gloss.
@scenicroadwaysyt
@scenicroadwaysyt 4 жыл бұрын
@@rixZR2 high gloss has been my favorite spray sealant so far. Amazing gloss, ease of use and hydrophobics. Did you get to compare Shinee wax to it yet?
@rixZR2
@rixZR2 4 жыл бұрын
scenicroadwaysyt hello! I haven’t used it on my car yet as PA high gloss is still going strong and I doubt I would notice a difference until PA starts to lose its appearance. I did use Shinee on my wife’s black SUV and it gives off a wet glossy look I was very happy with. However, it loses some of it gloss within a couple days as where PA high gloss stays glossy weeks after its applied with no need to top it after several washes. Shinee vs PA high gloss will be very hard to tell the difference when first applied. Oh and I am a product whore that using my wife’s ride as a lad-rat before making it onto mine. ;)
@a_k_s1973
@a_k_s1973 4 жыл бұрын
Another great video as always! Thanks for all your hard work!
@brettstuart6887
@brettstuart6887 4 жыл бұрын
Jon you look so much better clean shaven! Stay healthy and thanks for the vids.
@matthewgibb2640
@matthewgibb2640 4 жыл бұрын
My mentor always said that the gloss is in the paint not the product. That is true but anything water based should give more gloss than solvent based as solvents can effect gloss negatively. Silica based products give a higher film build than silicones/waxes so more gloss/colour richness but many product types work well. You do great videos Jon. Always fun to wafch.
@ForensicDetailing
@ForensicDetailing 4 жыл бұрын
the physical or natural gloss of the clearcoat is the main thing isnt it. cant beat a good polish :) stay safe mate great to hear from you.
@matthewgibb2640
@matthewgibb2640 4 жыл бұрын
@@ForensicDetailing spot on mate. My thoughts are that polish gets the paint as good as it can be naturally and the sealants, waxes, gloss enhancing glazes plus coating as well take it a little further than polishes can due to acrylics pdms siloxanes, t1 grade carnauba and resins in these supplementary products. Im all clear no covid 19 after being tested this week. Phew. Stay safe yourself. Check out my podcast with the rag company soon, i hope that it is helpful and interesting to all detailers and enthusiasts. I dont consider myself a guru, just passionate
@AndrewGibson22
@AndrewGibson22 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for introducing me to Gyeon Quick Detailer... superb product, love it.
@adnaanpardawala
@adnaanpardawala 4 жыл бұрын
Great Video. Your approach to take 3 readings for each product left little to no room for error. But, I feel the glossiest pre test panel did some injustice to the applied products.
@boothmeister6024
@boothmeister6024 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting test Jon. Surprised the Done & Dusted didn't do better though. I'd like to see some of the new Wowos products tested at some point, what with them all being revamped recently.
@sarrow168
@sarrow168 4 жыл бұрын
i found if i follow the beadmaker direction and do 2 layer , it will do boost it a bit more! Good and thanks for the test m8!!
@jdisdetermined
@jdisdetermined 4 жыл бұрын
I can vouch for the Shinee spray wax! That stuff is absolutely incredible. I have never tried a TAC product I didn't like.. This was awesome, you put some serious hours into this, big thank you! 👍👌✌
@gerryr1893
@gerryr1893 3 жыл бұрын
Will it give Any better gloss than meguiars wax ?
@tmphotography8443
@tmphotography8443 4 жыл бұрын
Im using Bouncers SIO2 right now and really like it BUT Im working with a silver car mostly and its always a pig to get any real depth on that colour . Use it on the lads orange 208 and its massive gloss improvements . Ive thought about Beadmaker as a replacement once its used up but the price was kinda putting me off it for the amount you get . Top video as ever …...…… Happy isolation shave as well
@COPD_REHAB_GUY
@COPD_REHAB_GUY 4 жыл бұрын
Jon tested the hell out of that, excellent, thanks
@mattwernecke2342
@mattwernecke2342 4 жыл бұрын
I love all your gadgets. Been looking for a gloss meter. Just found a nice microscopy camera. Great work!
@zz97f028
@zz97f028 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot for your work. It's pure gold your job. I can see results and to obtain conclusions with your cientifics tests.
@subwrx2
@subwrx2 4 жыл бұрын
I use carpro reload on carpro lite. The paint looks 👌👌
@chriscuthbertson
@chriscuthbertson 5 ай бұрын
I think you need a way to include the starting gloss measurement as a modifier for the calculation. The higher the original gloss the result is weighted up
@ianstott9318
@ianstott9318 4 жыл бұрын
Would be interested to see how WoWo's Show stopper would perform under your gloss meter Jon,it's specifically designed to give intense gloss but zero protection. In the future maybe.
@jamesjones8720
@jamesjones8720 4 жыл бұрын
You are fucking class Jon ! What a channel, absolute diamond and content is golden
@brandonmunoz6931
@brandonmunoz6931 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing job as always. Recently I’ve tried a few different combinations on my vehicles. I used angelwax regenerate the. Egnima AIO topped with egnima wax. I was absolutely blown away. Did it on a black 2006 Yukon. Dripping wet! Ran out of time but will tip with ti22 tomorrow. Egnima was a little sticky. Other combinations are jescar power lock plus and Colinite 845. NOw that is slick and beautiful. Again amazing job!
@Ashley-dy7bx
@Ashley-dy7bx 4 жыл бұрын
To this day, bead maker is the glossiest product I've used but it has poor durability and attracts dust. I still use it as a topper though
@thomas181212
@thomas181212 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly, i dont use it anymore cuz of the poor durability and too much dust on the car after a while
@daves.3278
@daves.3278 4 жыл бұрын
How much does it usually last for you? Here in Chicago it last around 2 weeks or so?
@Oher58
@Oher58 4 жыл бұрын
Which product are you using now in place of BM?
@Ashley-dy7bx
@Ashley-dy7bx 4 жыл бұрын
@@daves.3278 Up to 2 weeks, which is fine as I wash my car at least every fortnight. After I've used my 5 Ltrs I won't be buying it again.
@robsrailvids8170
@robsrailvids8170 4 жыл бұрын
Superb video. Appreciate the effotrt imvolved. I have been using Dodo Juice finishing products for a while, Future Armour (Spray Sealant) & occasionaly topped up with Basics Detailing Spray. Happy with the results on a Red 2013 BMW 116i
@sgtsavage4991
@sgtsavage4991 4 жыл бұрын
Hi how does the autoglym UHD compare to the meguires ceramic liquid wax ? After using autoglym super resin polish
@Zenyettamondatta
@Zenyettamondatta 4 жыл бұрын
Another stella vid John, Ive checked out some other reviews (clearly not as good as you lol) and seen GU improvements of 9.6 and 10.1 this was on a black car and the other on a white but even the white car popped very impressed, so as normal went on line and it must be good as its sold out all over the place so ended up buying the 4000ml so I set for life with this stuff, wife stated "you have 9 wax things why do you need another" maybe its a man thing but looking forward to trying it so thanks for the heads up bud but you cost me a bloody fortune but I love it.
@freddyoner
@freddyoner 4 жыл бұрын
Quick question. I have this ceramic coating called ISM coat 2.0 from kamikaze. After applying it do I have to wax the car at all? Is waxing contraindicated after applying it?
@oldirtybrewton
@oldirtybrewton 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your hard work and great information!!!!!
@RyanAMG
@RyanAMG 4 жыл бұрын
Hi John, quick question from another video. I recently purchased waxed plant 8 below and used it today. Mine was no where near as foamy as yours in the video, I used 90mls in a 1 litre snow foam as recommended by yourself in the video, am I doing something wrong? Or are there other factors involved such as pressure washer? I have the K4 compared to your K7.... could the pressure be the answer? Would really appreciate your help mate! Thanks
@ForensicDetailing
@ForensicDetailing 4 жыл бұрын
yes mate have a watch of how to get thick snow foam on the unplugged channel.. But my K7 makes really thick foam.
@RyanAMG
@RyanAMG 4 жыл бұрын
Forensic Detailing Channel cheers John, just to make sure I am using the correct dilution, 90mls Wax plant in an 1 litre foam lance?
@MK-uy5gs
@MK-uy5gs 2 жыл бұрын
Jon great video. My car has been ceramic coated for 1 year. Could I use this as a topper over my ceramic coating?
@jimmyallen3850
@jimmyallen3850 2 жыл бұрын
Not only can you but you def should. It will greatly extend the life of the coating
@hl44
@hl44 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe carpro lite performed so bad, because it was not fully cured. The label says 48 hours to cure. What you think Jon? Although was an excellent review! I'll certainly will get the Gyeon QD after this, since is the only one of the top 5 we have access here in Brasil. Looking forward to test myself too!
@ForensicDetailing
@ForensicDetailing 4 жыл бұрын
its possible, but I think ceramics generally struggle to add gloss on high gloss.
@georgeduello
@georgeduello 3 жыл бұрын
Great test. Based on you tests could I substitute Tac System Shinee Wax for the Turtle Wax Spray Coating? Is or will it compatible? I have a fresh layer of Turtle Wax Polish & Wax on the car?
@ForensicDetailing
@ForensicDetailing 3 жыл бұрын
short answer is yes although, shinee wax is like a detail spray/spray wax.. Turtle wax ceramic spray coating is like a durable SI02 spray sealant so you can juice more durability out of the SI02 problem with barebones prep.
@billbuss7542
@billbuss7542 4 жыл бұрын
What product do you use or recommend that you prefer over Jescar Powerlock?
@ForensicDetailing
@ForensicDetailing 4 жыл бұрын
I tend to recomend tAC moonlight.
@scottohms2799
@scottohms2799 4 жыл бұрын
@Jon, is polish angel high gloss worth $70 and how much better (adding gloss) would it be than shinee wax ?
@ForensicDetailing
@ForensicDetailing 4 жыл бұрын
would have to test to answer this but polished angel are a interesting brand worth checking their stuff.. pricey yes but i think its good.
@joshmawson3931
@joshmawson3931 4 жыл бұрын
Would love to see a d&d si vs bead maker like a USA vs uk!
@gb3496
@gb3496 4 жыл бұрын
What happened to your previous year's (2016) winner - original Done & Dusted...?
@TheOkinawaBoy
@TheOkinawaBoy 4 жыл бұрын
I have seen great results ( almost 10 GU added) with Turtle Wax Ceramic Spray. I started using it on my car. Really easiest application ever and great result!
@basketballdbomb41
@basketballdbomb41 4 жыл бұрын
Bet the ceramics would have done better if they were cured. I am assuming but I don't think he let them cure at all. From apex detailing, the graphine really gains lots of gloss after a day or two of cure time.
@110Griff
@110Griff 4 жыл бұрын
Very interesting test and very thorough, however my question is this, can the naked eye see any real difference in any of these products? Keep up the great reviews and tests.
@jdisdetermined
@jdisdetermined 4 жыл бұрын
It takes a difference of around 10 gloss units to visually see..
@rixZR2
@rixZR2 4 жыл бұрын
@@jdisdetermined I thought is was 5 gloss units to the naked eye? 10 units make 95% of most gloss test irrelevant
@steverabbits
@steverabbits 4 жыл бұрын
@@jdisdetermined or around ten beers
@jdisdetermined
@jdisdetermined 4 жыл бұрын
@@rixZR2 10 is what the average person needs.. for instance to look at paint and say "wow that's shiny.." versus just another car on the road.. generally above 90 units.. 5+ is about what it takes to intentionally look at two otherwise identical surfaces side by side and see a difference.. 👍✌
@craigbarker_calisthenics8022
@craigbarker_calisthenics8022 2 жыл бұрын
How does tac wax work In terms or protection, I feel when I've done a full detail removing the swirls etc, then applying a wax it gives me a lair of protection as it is thick but with a spray wax I don't see how it can protect your paint as well as a wax will, also how would the gloss levels change if at all if u applied the HD wax then tac wax over the top???
@hetherington35
@hetherington35 4 жыл бұрын
I'm after some advice please. I'm getting my first DA and wondering which cutting compound to use. The black roof on my Mini is pretty badly marred, not scratched. There are loads of marks, nothing I can feel with my nail. Thanks in advance.
@apjacko1
@apjacko1 4 жыл бұрын
Jon, why don't you retest the three with high gloss reading on a different panel, then it will take any doubt that's lurking in the back of your mind and give an overall clearer result.
@ForensicDetailing
@ForensicDetailing 4 жыл бұрын
millions of backlog of products to test constantly. got to cover new ground and later we sort of revist things..
@apjacko1
@apjacko1 4 жыл бұрын
@@ForensicDetailing Millions Jon, you must be a busy lad , lol ?
@chadpatton3252
@chadpatton3252 4 жыл бұрын
What make and model gloss meter do you have? I'm looking at the Landtek gm-6, but yours takes more readings I think. How do you like your gloss meter?
@ej5376
@ej5376 Жыл бұрын
Carnuba turtle wax paste for £5, is the only product I’ve used that’s actually given the warm depth and shine. Every other spray doesn’t come close. My black Carnuba wax’d car looked better than my mates Ceramic coated car
@dandavison3469
@dandavison3469 4 жыл бұрын
Having purchased Shinee Wax after seeing your results I can say it is indeed very easy to use and very shiny, however since applying it I have had nothing but water ring marks every time it rains. These are hard to remove so I wont be using it anymore sadly.
@ВадимСтаниславский-р7н
@ВадимСтаниславский-р7н 4 жыл бұрын
Sonax BSD?
@FabioSilva-kq9fm
@FabioSilva-kq9fm 4 жыл бұрын
Spot on video once again Jon, top quality content. Thanks you very much mate. 👌👏
@abuhamza1970
@abuhamza1970 4 жыл бұрын
Nothing from Bilt Hamber? Was surprised by the Autoglym UHD so thanks for the test. Also you usually do a VFM comparison with regards to price, how come you didn’t do it here? Would have been a good test cos I know the autoglym is very pricey but I’m not aware of any other prices. Thanks again and keep em coming. Getting proper bored now 😬
@Twe2
@Twe2 4 жыл бұрын
I was looking for this comment. Bilt Hamber is setting the benchmark in many areas such as performance for value and still beats some of the more expensive brands. Maybe John has been accused of being buyers towards BH so he took the product out of the test. I would really like to see how either the double speed wax or maybe spray wax would hold up against the other brands in this video. (John I hope you read this 😉)
@ethoscarcare
@ethoscarcare 4 жыл бұрын
We would love to have you test our Ceramic Wax PRO, based upon our gloss meter testing it would place in your top 3!
@mietv2868
@mietv2868 4 жыл бұрын
may i know sir which product are great and cover with thick layer protection? not only for the gloss but include with coating protection
@ForensicDetailing
@ForensicDetailing 4 жыл бұрын
check out tac systems moonlight as a standalone protection product or a product to top up an existing coating
@Planehazza
@Planehazza 4 жыл бұрын
Shinee Wax... does this act as an LSP, or would it be better as an LSP top up for maintenance washes? I protect my car with Bilt Hamber Double Speed Wax which I reapply every 6 months or. After I've maintenance washed the car, I spray Auto Glym Aqua wax onto the wet car before drying it. Would this Shinee Wax work for that?
@ForensicDetailing
@ForensicDetailing 4 жыл бұрын
its a detail spray.. no durability but adds lots of gloss on application.
@Planehazza
@Planehazza 4 жыл бұрын
@@ForensicDetailing Thanks. I'm probably asking the scope of an entire video here, but what are the purpose of QD sprays? I don't have the patience or energy to detail my car often, so I only clean off old wax and reapply once or twice a year. Anything I put on I want to last.
@catguy64
@catguy64 4 жыл бұрын
My eyes are my gloss meter. 🤣 I totally appreciate the time & effort you put into your videos. 👏🏻
@jackhuff9560
@jackhuff9560 4 жыл бұрын
Is that with or without the specs?
@chadj8349
@chadj8349 4 жыл бұрын
Great test! I would like to see Manett’s showstopper or megashine in this test just to see where they stand. Or maybe do ceramic toppers by themselves like exo v4, gliss etc....
@DavidC1
@DavidC1 4 жыл бұрын
i agree ceramics are not as glossy on application but it seems within a few days the gloss massively increases...I throughly belive that lite-weight ceramics need to be washed off, and remove the "dried out" product. I would be really curious if you did a small mini test about this on a small square panel, gloss before, after, and then after a shampoo wash. I think the gloss will increase after a shampoo wash jon, would be very curious.
@tomashton5117
@tomashton5117 3 жыл бұрын
Am I missing something, I've bought tac systems shinee wax to use after my regular maintenance wash. I've carbon black bmw paint and it leaves a horrid streaky mess that's near impossible to remove. Am I doing something wrong or have I just got a bad bottle. Mines pale yellow in colour should it be bright yellow instead?
@ForensicDetailing
@ForensicDetailing 3 жыл бұрын
Its impossible to know mate but maybe this can help. kzbin.info/www/bejne/j6jIamWfr9hsrZY
@tomashton5117
@tomashton5117 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks I'll check it out and see if I'm overlooking something, I had such high hopes after having incredible results with their one step master paint sealant.
@AnTaskov
@AnTaskov 4 жыл бұрын
How long after the application of the ceramic coatings you measure the gloss? As you probably know, most of the ceramic coatings take a couple of days to fully cure, unless UV light is used. Only after full cure they reach their maximum gloss. What are your observations?
@ForensicDetailing
@ForensicDetailing 4 жыл бұрын
I normally wait 24 hours. Ive done longer tests over 7 days its doesnt normally make any difference in terms of gloss readings. most of these products lower gloss on highly refined finishes.
@AnTaskov
@AnTaskov 4 жыл бұрын
@@ForensicDetailing I see, thanks.
@squarterman8807
@squarterman8807 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting that you didn't include Sonax BSD in your test? And Zaino Z6?
@masterpolir6145
@masterpolir6145 3 жыл бұрын
I would like to use shine wax tac system for my car and top of coating is tac moonlight.. It is good to use both products?
@ForensicDetailing
@ForensicDetailing 3 жыл бұрын
Yes it's ideal m8
@babobabuka1065
@babobabuka1065 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder which result you would get by using the Menzerna Power lock ultimate protection. The slickness of this sealant is incredible. Give em a try
@philmullock5520
@philmullock5520 4 жыл бұрын
Great test comparison, I’ve used the Gyeon QD and it’s amazing for the price
@Normster32
@Normster32 4 жыл бұрын
Like always excellent video.... Been using Shiney Wax for a bit and really enjoy using it. But Beadmaker is still best bang for buck if buying in gallon form. Thank you and keep up the excellent work, Cheers from Montreal Canada
@giovannigallo8429
@giovannigallo8429 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome test Jon.. 👍🏻 I have been using bead maker lately and my eyes tells me it is a gloss monster.. might give Gyeon a go...
@cosmic865
@cosmic865 4 жыл бұрын
I knew tac systems would win. Brian from apex detail done a gloss test on this and got around 10 gu improvement.
@JWL-UK
@JWL-UK 4 жыл бұрын
Still when you look at the readings Jon recorded you don't see a massive variation. Post application panel was in high 80s which is so underwhelming. Something is off with this test but not sure what.
@ssoffshore5111
@ssoffshore5111 4 жыл бұрын
Brian has done a lot of great testing as well, I know he's very fond of most of the TAC systems products... I wish they sold their products through Amazon, their shipping cost is often a deal breaker for me when I want to try something.
@NipponStiqqyPaint
@NipponStiqqyPaint 4 жыл бұрын
SS OFFSHORE its b/c they lost their US distributor at the beginning of the year. The only way you can get their products is through Canada now. EDIT: I was wrong as of yesterday TACsystems USA is back!!! Woohoo
@Phen0mable
@Phen0mable 4 жыл бұрын
I use Maguire's ultimate compound and I'm wondering what's a little bit more aggressive than this ?
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