*NEW* Gyeon Wax V Autoglym UHD V Bilt Hamber Double Speed | Review

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@theovandaele3220
@theovandaele3220 3 жыл бұрын
I've been trying so many products, and I'm a Gyeon fan when it comes to many products, but I have to admit so far I was most amazed with Double Speed. It stuck on a *lot* longer than I expected from a paste wax this winter.
@Lodgey180
@Lodgey180 3 жыл бұрын
just ordered some, i find wax keeps the "detailing enthusiast" in me alive. as much a i love the ceramic coating on my mrs car, i miss going out on a weekend and tinkering with my own. Looking forward to my new vehicle arriving and giving it the once over.
@DetailingandtheBeast
@DetailingandtheBeast 3 жыл бұрын
Another well structured review Jon. I've been recently long term testing the TW Graphene Wax and after its initial "boost" for chemical resistance on my test panel, on a real car its failing miserably after only a couple of months. It's now cementing my belief that we should be (and I know it's not always possible) testing out products longer term. On the Gyeon, I'm actually liking the presentation of it, very different, kinda reminds me of when Soft99 Glaco came out.
@ForensicDetailing
@ForensicDetailing 3 жыл бұрын
defo there is a big difference with chem testing and real life. more to come on all these products comparing them in different ways. durability is a big thing for lots of people... but others like its about the buff or some its just about price...
@behindtwheel
@behindtwheel 3 жыл бұрын
Bilt hamber FTW. Love bilt hamber products. Great review
@grahamlake9728
@grahamlake9728 3 жыл бұрын
@@yeldaRooBTKAM what? It’s just car wax! What after service does it require? Rub it on, rub it off!
@neilwalker5041
@neilwalker5041 3 жыл бұрын
I have been using Gyeon wax for a few months as a topper. The hydrophobic behavior is insane but the durability is only about a month at the most. Still I like the idea of using a wax over ceramic to help with water spots.
@jazzt3839
@jazzt3839 3 жыл бұрын
How did you manage to get it so early? 😲
@neilwalker5041
@neilwalker5041 3 жыл бұрын
Car Supplies Warehouse
@neilwalker5041
@neilwalker5041 3 жыл бұрын
Both of those products are great and worth using. I’m just curious about how the Gyeon wax holds up as a ceramic topper. After three hard months the product is holding up better than expected. This is comparable to the original fusso.
@jazzt3839
@jazzt3839 3 жыл бұрын
@@neilwalker5041 I’m confused re: the durability? You mentioned earlier it was only a month?
@DavidC1
@DavidC1 3 жыл бұрын
very clever formulation from geon, usually the more hydrophobic products they put in the wax, the harder they are to use in my experience. UHD is a classic and their R&D is evident.
@rflood
@rflood 3 жыл бұрын
Would love you to do a review on BH liquid wax. If it performs as well as the double speed (its actually more expensive than the double speed) then it should be a great product. Useful for machine application when it's a liquid wax.
@jamesgillespie9000
@jamesgillespie9000 3 жыл бұрын
I'm testing it atm, 9 weeks in and it's still going strong. Blown other liquid waxes out of the water
@rflood
@rflood 3 жыл бұрын
@@jamesgillespie9000 so much handier for application! Need to try it out next.
@kwl189
@kwl189 3 жыл бұрын
Is this the hydra wax from Bilt Hamber?
@rflood
@rflood 3 жыл бұрын
@@kwl189 yeah that's the one!
@kwl189
@kwl189 2 жыл бұрын
@@rflood impressive durability. Thanks for replying and confirming. KZbin didn’t inform me. Wonder how it stacks up to the cheap stuff from Turtle wax that gets a really good reputation in parts. Or how does it confirm to polar seal from AG for instance. Super easy to apply in a canon.
@djmandrick
@djmandrick 3 жыл бұрын
My delivery from BH turned up today so I currently have an anti rust bath, with two claipers and carriers bubbling away on my kitchen table. I love BH products and these new ones I haven't tried before are just as good. This wax is great too, bought on Jon's recommendation a while back. So much great knowledge shared here, thank you. I also like the idea of this new product too. I'd have the most hydrphobic arm pits in the Midlands.
@Jahmed5635
@Jahmed5635 3 жыл бұрын
Lovely upload on eid. Eid Mubarak to those celebrating. Hope everyone else has had a good day 🙌
@ForensicDetailing
@ForensicDetailing 3 жыл бұрын
Eid Mubarak to you Jubair
@dj_paultuk7052
@dj_paultuk7052 3 жыл бұрын
Im still using the TAC Systems Shinee Wax you recommended last year. Its very good value. Superb results. And about the easiest product to apply for a novice.
@ForensicDetailing
@ForensicDetailing 3 жыл бұрын
its good stuff isnt it but its kind of a different genre, detail spray/spray wax perhaps its more of a topper but yer shinee wax if you use it every wash will also give you some protection. This is the beuty of all this, you can take a very very simplw approach if you want or you can literally have like 13 layers of protection. I think 13 was the amount of potential layers you "could" have on your car with a genuine brands system :)
@bobhopeandnohope
@bobhopeandnohope 3 жыл бұрын
Used dsw for the first time on my car at the weekend. Had debated about a ceramic coating or a more fancy branded wax. Mega impressed by how well it came out for the money it cost.
@simonb6306
@simonb6306 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve gone round in circles on coatings. Spend 2 days doing a ceramic properly. 2 hard days too. More days if you need it to cure and keep out the rain. If you have only one car there’s a lot of downtime with that method. If you don’t have cover it’s much harder. Or you go hybrid. Use CP lite as your base then wax a few times a year. Much easier to put on, if you mess it up you don’t risk much and can take an afternoon not days. Do half a car one week half the next. It’s not all critical. If you need to add wax you do. You don’t need to machine buff with precision. And go through the whole process. I think going ceramic hard core makes it a a science step. I find myself bot enjoying the process. Where a good wax or temp coating lets you enjoy the process and take your time without pressure.
@briansteelfitness4917
@briansteelfitness4917 3 жыл бұрын
Great review John, I might try this new wax as I find the BH double speed wax to cause the dirt to stick to the car! Once washed it performs really well, but it doesn’t appear to repel the dirt, more like a magnet and you end up with dirt lines up the bonnet etc
@mick949
@mick949 3 жыл бұрын
love this Gyeon wax easy to apply a little goes a long way and so easy to remove and the water beading is crazy .
@phil-jz1mj
@phil-jz1mj 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting to see just how similar these products are. Been a big fan of Auto Glym HD wax for sometime now as it is just so easy to remove. Greate video and content in general keep it up !!
@andrewsmith7636
@andrewsmith7636 3 жыл бұрын
Looks great but i think I’m sticking with autoglym, love the smell and it feels like a quality product 👍
@sunilraj7692
@sunilraj7692 3 жыл бұрын
As you mentioned companies like Gyeon missed a trick by not selling wax's. Now wax's are all good! I'll never use a ceramic coating except for the wheels for all the reasons you mentioned. I'm not bothered too much about longevity reckon it's overated if you're washing your regularly with a drying aid. Great video!
@adyg8221
@adyg8221 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve just swapped over from the tw ceramic range to this new gyeon wax and all I can say is it’s fantastic. I completed a full decontamination and clay then machine polished with gyeon primer the topped with the wax the colour and the 3 stage pearl in my focus rs mk2 in ultimate green just popped amazing the look is fantastic highly recommend. Just don’t know about how long it will last for. Mind you the rs is in the garage most of the time great review once again mate cheers from Aussie
@ForensicDetailing
@ForensicDetailing 3 жыл бұрын
Im in the same boat as you. if you full prep the car and the car is garaged the durability is less of a problem. some people are reporting 1 month durability which I find hard to believe. mines been on about 3 weeks and 3 washes and its still performing well.
@adyg8221
@adyg8221 3 жыл бұрын
@@ForensicDetailing I may use with wet coat on the next wash or the quick detailed spray I don’t want to Take away the look of the wax as it’s awesome may invest the ceramic spray over the top later on. Great channel mate has to be one of the best if not the best on KZbin keep it up 👍
@WestfieldFreshAir
@WestfieldFreshAir 3 жыл бұрын
Great to hear about plans to test on a panel that's not buffed to perfection to better see what the product can add more than what gloss it can lose. Great honest and open review, very informative as 7sual. Thanks Jon.
@hyperionone4208
@hyperionone4208 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a big fan of Bilt Hamber, but I'm currently using Autoglym HD Wax on my car. As the car is white, I top up with Bouncers Done and Dusted to boost the shine. Great combination 👍
@Diffusion8
@Diffusion8 3 жыл бұрын
Bilt Hamber is unreal value and bang for your buck! Great product!
@sirmanni4534
@sirmanni4534 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for explaining the reason for Gyeon adding Flourine. I finally understand the difference between pure carnauba vs additives. Because a lot of these companies advertise a high % of carnauba as if that’s the golden ticket 🎫 to protecting your car.
@georgekerr265
@georgekerr265 Жыл бұрын
A great revue! The interesting thing for me was if you remove the cost score, Autoglym scores 11 winning by one point over the other two that scored 10 points each.
@shawndejong6699
@shawndejong6699 2 жыл бұрын
I think the kicker for the gyeon product is that it can be used on coatings, be it Si02 or Graphene based.
@Audittr2108
@Audittr2108 3 жыл бұрын
I think bringing a wax in the range is a great idea. They now cover all bases. It’s a pity the Turtle Wax 75th wax wasn’t in the comparison to compare a wax with ceramic/graphing in and see if this makes a difference. DSW never lets you down and is so cheap.
@ForensicDetailing
@ForensicDetailing 3 жыл бұрын
i have some comparison coming soon with the TW 75 one as well soon chris.
@James-pk4jf
@James-pk4jf 3 жыл бұрын
It'd be great to see this long term up against fusso coat since they're both in the PTFE category. 👍
@ForensicDetailing
@ForensicDetailing 3 жыл бұрын
stay tuned :)
@James-pk4jf
@James-pk4jf 3 жыл бұрын
@@thephantomarse I agree yhat fusso will probably win, but you never know
@tonymontana897
@tonymontana897 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video Jon. That was very interesting. I'm a big fan of Bilt Hamber products and wasn't surprised to see it win. The Gyeon product would look even better if they made the cylinder out of a clear see through plastic to follow on the theme of their beautiful bottled range. Don't mind the Gyeon stuff.
@johneardley5044
@johneardley5044 3 жыл бұрын
Bilt Hamber , Bead tastic, gyeon and UHD in one test! Getting the gyeon as I like most of their other prouducts. The Double speed is on my car, UHD on the other, Gyeon is going onto the van. Ask me in a year which I like best.
@10xman9
@10xman9 3 жыл бұрын
How is it going so far buddy?
@johneardley5044
@johneardley5044 3 жыл бұрын
@@10xman9 Bilt Hamber beading the water off today like a waterfall. Very impressed with the Gyeon on the van, it’s looking cleaner longer and the bugs are easier to remove.
@pradeepsagwal
@pradeepsagwal 3 жыл бұрын
@@johneardley5044 thanks
@sb8536
@sb8536 2 жыл бұрын
So which one you like the most?
@johneardley5044
@johneardley5044 2 жыл бұрын
@@sb8536 the Double Speed lasts longer, the Gyeon is the easiest to apply, both have great features, so, I like both.
@shinychariotdetailing9707
@shinychariotdetailing9707 3 жыл бұрын
I use the autoglym uhd and i find it very good, and find it easy to put on and get off.
@ForensicDetailing
@ForensicDetailing 3 жыл бұрын
buffs really nice no greasey trails. top draw product
@69thedrummer
@69thedrummer 2 жыл бұрын
John I absolutely love the structure of your videos and the fun that you have! Could you please review the Bilt Hamber Finis wax in the future? I just picked some up here in the US and it is by far for the money the most impressive wax I’ve tried yet
@ForensicDetailing
@ForensicDetailing 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks m8. I talk about finis in the bilt Hamber brand review
@DavidC1
@DavidC1 3 жыл бұрын
nice a fusso-style sniff, jon we can tell its strength from how cross-eyed you go
@seanh5648
@seanh5648 3 жыл бұрын
Great review again John! Have you tried the bilt hamber hydra wax?
@A7mag3ddon
@A7mag3ddon 3 жыл бұрын
The branding on the new tins looks really nice, loving my double speedwax that just arrived, thanks for the reviews!
@Seb7535_pafc
@Seb7535_pafc 3 жыл бұрын
Autoglym UHD is a cracking wax Jon. Gone over to Autofinesse Illusion show wax as it makes my Black FN2 look dripping wet and glossy but ill always go back to UHD for winter protection 👍
@ForensicDetailing
@ForensicDetailing 3 жыл бұрын
its a high quality product thats amazing to buff and car that is freshly waxes with this stuff looks epic.
@Deviantsoundz
@Deviantsoundz 3 жыл бұрын
Now if they can keep their ease of application and removal and have the durability of original fusso coat it would be amazing.
@JeLifeCoach
@JeLifeCoach 2 жыл бұрын
All of your videos are incredible. The way you help us make more productive purchases is amazing. Thank you so much for all your hard work, effort, and dedication. I will be donating to your Patreon account today. -JE
@ForensicDetailing
@ForensicDetailing 2 жыл бұрын
Guys like you make this possible thank you for being awesome and positive. Rgs jon
@dave2166
@dave2166 3 жыл бұрын
Thought it was Gyeon launching into the Ann Summers world at the start....
@chrisrees3872
@chrisrees3872 3 жыл бұрын
I've got dsw and collinite 476..i keep thinking about using them but then see GT 2 Sigma sitting there and just go with that every 2nd wash.. Quick, easy, great results
@Dynafleet123
@Dynafleet123 3 жыл бұрын
Nice review, I have been using Autoglym UHD Wax for years now, I am very satisfied. Greetings from Belgium.
@matthewsavidge6248
@matthewsavidge6248 3 жыл бұрын
Ceramics are all very well and have longevity but the big down side is the majority of detail enthusiasts can only work outside so makes ceramic application (if you have any sense) impossible to use. Personally I’d rather use a wax or sealant and refresh every couple or few months safer too
@13slot28
@13slot28 3 жыл бұрын
Love your unbiased approach!
@miguelcunha6664
@miguelcunha6664 3 жыл бұрын
This week a bird dropping ruined my BMW black paint on a door. It was in the car for no more than 8 hours, but it made a hole through the clear coat into the paint! The door had a 2 weeks old layer of Meguiars hybrid ceramic wax and a 3 days old layer of ADBL synthetic spray wax on it. Unfortunately, they didn't protect the paint at all, so now I had to switch to a ceramic coating :(. Bird droppings have a PH of 3~4.5 and Cquartz has a PH resistancy of 3~13, so I hope next time this won't happen! I was in shock. I was an adept of paint sealants/waxes in spray or paste, but unfortunately, I now had to switch to ceramics that are way more time-consuming and expensive.
@ForensicDetailing
@ForensicDetailing 3 жыл бұрын
if that bird dropping sat there and ate through to the paintwork it will go through that coating rapidly as well. theres real advantages to coatings dont get me wrong but generally they are not for me on my main car. and my family car gets smashed up so its pointless "protecting" the paint. bird crap is the least of my worries with the way my missed drives into things.
@favarets
@favarets 3 жыл бұрын
Can’t wait to use this, the wait has been to long
@DjNikGnashers
@DjNikGnashers 3 жыл бұрын
Great and detailed reviews as always Jon thank you so much.
@1881Gordon
@1881Gordon 3 жыл бұрын
"What! a wax, to apply over ceramic coating!!!?" - Mother of God! 😅. I say well done Gyeon for stirring the pot and putting it out there. It's not gonna be universally loved though.
@photoholohan
@photoholohan 3 жыл бұрын
I think Gyeon have made a great job of the packaging… looks ace 👍🏻
@mikeparker9812
@mikeparker9812 3 жыл бұрын
One place wax is better than ceramic coatings is wax doesn't need to cure for 24hrs. As a mobile valeter in the UK where 99% of customers don't keep their car in a garage so you can't guarantee a car is going to stay dry, let alone bird crap free, for 24hrs. So. i offer Angelwax Enigma ceramic wax which Angelwax said when I asked them doesn't need a cure time at all. Sure you can get quicker curing time coatings but the ones Ive seen have a short life, in which cade you might as well apply a good wax
@charlesbardforth6738
@charlesbardforth6738 3 жыл бұрын
I like this video alot. I eventually removed my ceramic because it wasn't me. With this video however, I think using a different brand APC may have been better. Bilt hamber would have ensured their products were compatible
@DavidC1
@DavidC1 3 жыл бұрын
i do love that geon tire ceramic stuff, works great and lasts very long.
@martycumming8497
@martycumming8497 3 жыл бұрын
I am going to buy some and try it out myself 😜
@qwikss4469
@qwikss4469 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder how Fusso speed barrier would work to maintain gyeon wax? considering speed barrier is fluorine based as well
@peterlabiak1051
@peterlabiak1051 3 жыл бұрын
Having taking into account the performance characteristics of BH Double Speed against the other two on test and then factoring in the price BH DS is in a different league:)
@JB-jn8yq
@JB-jn8yq 3 жыл бұрын
Dors anyone remember Blitz wax? It is a carnauba wax which was popular about 20 years ago; I still have two tins of it. I wonder how it stands up to all the modern products.
@mact153
@mact153 3 жыл бұрын
Orderd mine today
@danielmeglio3870
@danielmeglio3870 3 жыл бұрын
I fall into the category of someone that has lots of different waxes that I'm happy with, but I still want to buy the Geyon, what is wrong with me 🤦‍♂️
@curtr.5083
@curtr.5083 3 жыл бұрын
Oh boy been waiting for this one!
@Jeff_Seely
@Jeff_Seely 3 жыл бұрын
I do not have a negative comment and I have never used any of these three. If you like it it's good enough for me but I probably will not buy it because I have fusso. Based on this review I can confidently say that Fusso is more durable which is what I'm after.
@shivamlaxmi4012
@shivamlaxmi4012 3 жыл бұрын
Great in-depth review as always John. 😊 Can you please do a comparison of the Bilt Hamber Finis Wax vs the Double Speed wax..? 🤔
@ForensicDetailing
@ForensicDetailing 3 жыл бұрын
finis wax is twice the price and less hydrophobic, but smoother to buff.
@shivamlaxmi4012
@shivamlaxmi4012 3 жыл бұрын
Cheers John
@Kargol48
@Kargol48 3 жыл бұрын
@@ForensicDetailing Peter Hamber has said that Finis Wax has greater 'mechanical' durability, but DSW has greater 'detergent ' durability. So if you aren't able to wash your car as often as you'd like, then Finis may be the better option if trying to decide between the two.
@ForensicDetailing
@ForensicDetailing 3 жыл бұрын
yes and we measure by looking at hydrophobicity so waxes with hydrophobic polymers in the blend have an advantage even though the less hydrophobic based waxes might last longer its harder to see it.
@peemick
@peemick 3 жыл бұрын
noice!! Thanks for the info. Bilt Hamber just does the job for me, every time, except in the rinseless wash category.
@chrismarsden7254
@chrismarsden7254 3 жыл бұрын
Another great comparison thanks Jon. I too like experimenting with different products. I use double speed AG UHD but I also have several Meguiars It’s interesting comparing them all An interesting video which I would like to see you do would be a similar video on the three paste waxes from meguairs Ultimate vs Gold vs NXT vs Mirror bright I think there’s only one decent video where they compare some of these. There are others but they don’t do anything like as good a good a job as you. They throw it on, spray some water and pick a winner. I always think it’s great when you do something on the high street brands Ive had a play with all of these and the differences are interesting. In particular I found the mirror bright really dusts up (not good) may have been my application but I honestly don’t think so You could use double speed as a control 😀 I also agree with your view on ceramic. I have thought about it. But I enjoy washing my car. Trying different products including waxes. Applying a long-standing ceramic would likely be a waste for me. Great products, just not for me
@matthewsmith2787
@matthewsmith2787 3 жыл бұрын
Bilt Hamber is a fantastic brand. Fantastic old fashioned customer service too, took the time to help with a query. Miles better than Auto Glym
@mushymi5680
@mushymi5680 3 жыл бұрын
Been interested in this product since the launch, but disappointed in its durability. Great video
@Distorted-Vision
@Distorted-Vision 3 жыл бұрын
One thing you didn't pick up is that being in a tube makes the Gyeon easy to apply by machine polisher.
@DavidC1
@DavidC1 3 жыл бұрын
purchased it right after watching this.
@ForensicDetailing
@ForensicDetailing 3 жыл бұрын
I think you gonna like it dave, with full prep the car is a water magnet repellening beast for a while. its no fusso or DS durability but its very impressive.
@gambietti
@gambietti 2 жыл бұрын
Waxes tend to leave a warm finish. Which of the 3 was the warmest? I tend to wax show cars versus ceramic sealants or coatings as they don't see weather and leave the best finish. Thanks!
@sadsismint
@sadsismint 2 ай бұрын
I have the Gyeon wax and i find it ok to apply, but not that great to get off. plus it then leaves the car "sticky" and dust/pollen adhere very easily after that... does look good for pics right after though.
@jayanthonywright7691
@jayanthonywright7691 3 жыл бұрын
Good vid Jon, really wish the durability of the Gyeon wax was more than a claimed month or so
@ForensicDetailing
@ForensicDetailing 3 жыл бұрын
I find it really refreshing I recal gyeon cure claiming 6 weeks and stuff. It makes me trust a brand on their products ratings more.
@Forza77Samir
@Forza77Samir 3 жыл бұрын
I have been waiting for this.
@SpoonGT500
@SpoonGT500 3 жыл бұрын
I can describe AG UHD as Farecla G3 wax on steroids, though application of G3 is the easiest in the world. Would be interesting to see some PolishAngel spray products on the channel.
@ketillundsrensen6167
@ketillundsrensen6167 3 жыл бұрын
Great review. I have to stick with my Soft 99 Fusso Coat, there is no reason to not finish the can before buying something new. I'm thinking about what polish I should buy, have the Autoglym super resin in my thoughts but don't know if there is other one step hand polishes that could compete with it. I'm not looking for perfect finish when my car is a 23year old beater with som small rust bobles and stone chips.
@Fantic1980
@Fantic1980 3 жыл бұрын
I love the idea of a Gyeon wax, but in a tube? Like lipstick? Like Pritt stick? Like Chap stick? If it was in a tin I'd buy it tomorrow, but that is really not for me.
@ForensicDetailing
@ForensicDetailing 3 жыл бұрын
the application "thing" is pretty solid. the combo of the applicator and the stick its cool and you dont get an on your hands. the one downside is just you can cover more ground with the bigger applicators but you could in theory use them with this.
@johnsheridan5795
@johnsheridan5795 2 жыл бұрын
Great review, have you reviewed Collinite 476, I use this and find it is easy to apply and reasonably priced at around £25 for 200g
@ForensicDetailing
@ForensicDetailing 2 жыл бұрын
Not review ee it but used it m8
@Bendixon32
@Bendixon32 2 жыл бұрын
Really good fair review - very detailed. I find the best wax I've used for gloss - hydrophobic - durability is old school collinite 845
@RobertSmith-di5ll
@RobertSmith-di5ll 3 жыл бұрын
Breaking wind is not usually taken into account on many scientific trials - perhaps it should be.
@TommyApel
@TommyApel 3 жыл бұрын
The presentation of the product is nice though, I like the tube style better than the tub style.
@simonbealing
@simonbealing 3 жыл бұрын
If you like waxing your car then for the price I think the gyeon is worth a try. The half an hour cure is a bit of a pain. Maybe some will throw a bucket of water over the Mrs daily whilst waiting. I wonder how it performs in hot weather? Enjoyed the review John, thanks:)
@ForensicDetailing
@ForensicDetailing 3 жыл бұрын
I would like to know about mega hot weather as well.. i applied it in the sun but it was only say 17 deg. how does it far at 30 deg days, does it go greasey does it melt in the tube etc.. these are good points.
@simonbealing
@simonbealing 3 жыл бұрын
@@ForensicDetailing now it's officially made "the shelf" and with summer approaching I'm sure you will give it a fair go this year. Thanks again
@kinnonmcallister
@kinnonmcallister 3 жыл бұрын
Yasss. Been waiting patiently for this 👍😎
@YA-ee9zf
@YA-ee9zf 3 жыл бұрын
Btw a lot off people don’t believe in nanotechnology or ceramic coatings and use waxes only.
@ForensicDetailing
@ForensicDetailing 3 жыл бұрын
forget about the word nanotechnology and ceramic coating.. dispell those words. think of it as speciality resins developed for certain applications outside of the car protection sphere (coil coatings, coating train carraiges for anti graffiti coating, coating modern building facades and glass on skyscrapers to make it easier to clean). Then the detailing industry figured out you could coat cars with it, and the raw inorganic silazane was always developed to be "develope-able" by mixing with organic resins, which is what a handfull of companies started doing to create blends with more desirable characteristics. the raw silane which was pretty much all that was in the first generation of coatings for cars, was barely hydrophobic so the market didnt take to it. it would last years on the cars but people thought it was worse than a wax because you cant measure products that are not hydrophobic. so organic siloxanes and silicones were added to make them bead, then new base silazanes are available now and its a more complicated market place with more players. but 99% of people that say ceramic coatings are snake oil no nothing about them. they might not be viable for most people including me.. but they offer simple undisputable properties than non ceramics cant compete with. but these qualities also create problems.
@aaron-jd1ds
@aaron-jd1ds 3 жыл бұрын
Cracking review Jon, I love dsw, I just wish it was a little smoother to the touch compare to others no issues other than that, I always apply outside with a damp applicator. Really keen to try the gyeon wax, always been put off by the price point of the HD its a non starter when there are so many from soft99 and bilt hamber at bargin prices that last months. What pen you using on that panel tho Jon?? I assumed it was chalk but it doesn't come off is it a paint pen?
@JR-rr7mx
@JR-rr7mx 3 жыл бұрын
Great content again John , if you have a second hand car how do you know if it has a ceramic coating on it already.
@ForensicDetailing
@ForensicDetailing 3 жыл бұрын
ask the guy your buying it off is best way (not being funny). Otherwise you can only guess what material is on there. although if its been recently coated you could go looking with workshop lighting for high spots and signs etc..
@paulmasters2342
@paulmasters2342 3 жыл бұрын
No mention of its branding..... and design. Do it's ' stick nature ' have advantages for application over the regular pot/tins?
@ForensicDetailing
@ForensicDetailing 3 жыл бұрын
yer more to come on this. its not like an "advantage" in application. Its just like a neat/clever application idea. and implementing this idea requires that extra bit of work and cost that most companies dont do and this can seperate gyeon from the hurd. the down side is the bespoke application method is a tad slow because the applicator is smaller but you can just load onto a bigg appliocator I guess. stay tuned.
@kuba7875
@kuba7875 3 жыл бұрын
Like always great and absolutely honest test 👍, thank you
@jekkOO7
@jekkOO7 3 жыл бұрын
I was really looking forward to gyeon wax with high hopes of replacing my original fusso which is running out. Unfortunately the lack of durability is a real letdown for me. Search goes on then 😅
@ForensicDetailing
@ForensicDetailing 3 жыл бұрын
if you have a garage its not a problem if the car sits outside then yes fair play i think.
@daveallsopp320
@daveallsopp320 2 жыл бұрын
Would be nice to see how much you have left in the container is my only criticism
@PabloTBrave
@PabloTBrave 2 жыл бұрын
You can't mark BH down for problems caused by not using a damp applicator when the instructions tell you to use a damp applicator. It wouldn't have effected the score but it is worth pointing out
@ForensicDetailing
@ForensicDetailing 2 жыл бұрын
my product does not have those instructions. but its a fair point
@PabloTBrave
@PabloTBrave 2 жыл бұрын
@@ForensicDetailing if you download the pdf instructions it tells you to, granted it does in the how to use section of the product page .
@joeb5924
@joeb5924 3 жыл бұрын
Given the fact I have UHD and its my go to summer /Autumn protection then I dont see me going out to buy the Gyeon but another good review as always John 👍
@ForensicDetailing
@ForensicDetailing 3 жыл бұрын
they are kind of similiar actually.
@joeb5924
@joeb5924 3 жыл бұрын
@@ForensicDetailing The only issue I seem to have John is with Surfex HD, it seems to blitz any of my LSP. As a pre wash prior to foam what rate would you recommend it at?
@djsiuk
@djsiuk 3 жыл бұрын
Great comprehensive review.
@AdzayyYT
@AdzayyYT 3 жыл бұрын
Please compare Gyeons new Iron Wheel cleaner against Bilthamber Auto Wheel
@janniezbedny985
@janniezbedny985 3 жыл бұрын
Durability of Gyeon Wax really dissapointed me. I know this is only wax, but on my car it leave max one month in good condition. Cure even diluted last longer, as topper of course. Price of Wax is same as Cancoat. In my opinion Cancoat is ten times better as topper than Gyeon Wax
@ForensicDetailing
@ForensicDetailing 3 жыл бұрын
you want durability right. its interesting. because you will struggle now to find any wax which can outlast Double speed. Others post here they dont like double speed because its harder to buff. so lots of different requirements.
@janniezbedny985
@janniezbedny985 3 жыл бұрын
@@ForensicDetailingI didn't mean it. For hard wax, Gyeon's durability is simply poor. I do not expect him to be durable at the DSW level. I was hoping for two or three months ...
@stephenhone4546
@stephenhone4546 2 жыл бұрын
Nice one Jon! Have you ever used Dimond Brite products K2 ceramics etc be interested to see how you think about them as I been using the for about 8years now! Maxwax Finland🤔
@ForensicDetailing
@ForensicDetailing 2 жыл бұрын
Not used m8 they are not so hot over here but that does not mean they are bad
@SuperJapierdole
@SuperJapierdole 3 жыл бұрын
bh is great. Do not over aplicate, meaning 5-15g for car and it is a breaze. One thing missing is nice smell. This one has none. For the looks. It is good for metallic paints. Not in love on my race red ford. Would say it make it brighter :D It is still going on my friends vw golf, for over 6mths, on BH cleanser polish, after quick prep with no machine polish, after the winter, with poor maintenance. It is great. Combo of bh cp + bh dsw has a lot of fill so great for cars with moderate paint.
@ForensicDetailing
@ForensicDetailing 3 жыл бұрын
cleanser polish is great isnt it. creates this silky smooth platform to wax on. the gyeon wax works on top of the Cleanser polish as well.
@SuperJapierdole
@SuperJapierdole 3 жыл бұрын
@@ForensicDetailing yeah. If goal is to boost looks and no polish BH CP just rocks. I tested lonegevity on CP against naked paint and it was not bad - fusso, finis, dsw, carchem 38 and even angelwax desirable were great. Actually i just reaplied after winter. Great to see gyeon on the same panel with known waxes. Seems it is meant to protect coating after application. I wouldnt consider it standalone product honestly. Real world some folks tried on fully preped cars and it is gone in a month. Cheers Jon. Hope you are well mate!
@dannyh7676
@dannyh7676 Жыл бұрын
Bilt hamber takes it for me Winner every time...
@mrkazishaon6124
@mrkazishaon6124 3 жыл бұрын
Can you do one short video for Nu-finish car polish please?
@jt-2286
@jt-2286 3 жыл бұрын
I'm on the fence now. Was massively looking forward to this but the questionable durability is slightly off-putting. I'll leave things unfold and revisit the reviews in a few months. Long-term real life testing is a must but not too practical. Maybe put it 50/50 on a friends car against BH DSW? I'd be interested in that. I prefer waxes over ceramics, I find ceramics boring, I like getting involved however I do use can coat on her car maintained with Bathe+ and wet coat.
@ForensicDetailing
@ForensicDetailing 3 жыл бұрын
it wont outlast DS. but I have it on my car and its gonna last months and months for me but I have the garage.
@jt-2286
@jt-2286 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the reply Jon, be nice to see some updates on your car on the unplugged channel after washing whatever? I do love Gyeon though. Noticed they're using powder dye in their tar and glue which I thinks pointless
@nrobins201159
@nrobins201159 3 жыл бұрын
Buy a eBac dehumidifier. No more moisture over your cabinets front & FREE Demin water LOL Win Win
@craige101
@craige101 3 жыл бұрын
John can you add gyeon wet coat on top of waxes like bilt hamper double speed Thanks
@jonty251
@jonty251 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Jon, great review as always. I’ve got a question for you. I use the auto glym polar series (snow foam, contact, seal with hydrophobic wash) when I wash the car. I wanted to know when I should be applying one of these wax products to the car? Is it after the polar series wash in full or before the hydrophobic coat? Thanks in advance!
@ForensicDetailing
@ForensicDetailing 3 жыл бұрын
so with a paste wax you wash the car with pre wash and pure shampoos. decon/clay if required (if contamination is present). machine polish the paintwork if its swirly or dull. then do like a panel wipedown to degrease the paintwork. And apply a wax or sealant etc.... then in a months time if you want to boost hydrophobic and add protection you can wash and top up with polar seal for example. polar seal is more like a booster top up than a base line protection product if you get me.
@jonty251
@jonty251 3 жыл бұрын
@@ForensicDetailing thanks Jon. Will you need to reapply the paste wax after every wash?
@michaelhammond9996
@michaelhammond9996 3 жыл бұрын
Great vid 👍 I've just got back into detailing my car after the max power years many moons ago. I used to use super resin polish and ultra gloss protection together is this still a good way to do it I also have purchased auto gym ceramic spray not sure when to apply after what process? I already snow foam and wash .
@wallsend_wildcamper
@wallsend_wildcamper 3 жыл бұрын
Is the gyeon durable enough to last a british winter 3-4months or is the double speed a better option
@JuanPerez-yy5hr
@JuanPerez-yy5hr 3 жыл бұрын
A great video as always I tried the gyeon wax it fantastic But I notice some ghosting on some panels Is that because I applied it thick How can I remove the ghosting
@ForensicDetailing
@ForensicDetailing 3 жыл бұрын
Yes m8 get clean cloth final wipe down bit of qd as well the deliver final finish
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