I Gave 4 Wargamers £100 each to Buy a Whole Army

[@ccrooper88]

Some brave and valiant efforts here. Mostly from the painting judges trying to say nice things about the quality of the work

[@BattleCamperHome]

Haha. I think they were fair... About the eldar at least

[@Jebu911]

I think the tau looks great overall love the battle damaged look and grime on the white color, especially the 3d printed addons make them look great. Tank looks like it was painted with fingerpaints sadly.

[@WoodyREC]

"I'll eat it for points" 🤣 man I wish that had been clocked...

[@BattleCamperHome]

Me too! I only spotted it when editing haha

[@robertb7643]

They heard theyre just a little too sensitive for the Scottish humour especially the main guy

[@BattleCamperHome]

@@robertb7643 too sensitive to watch a man eat an old crisp?

[@robertb7643]

That wasn’t the ooonly thing that caused consternation for John 🥸 you missed his jokes a few times

[@dabluflcn]

The fact they had to start at the used model market to even make this feasible says everything we need to know. On a related note if you live in an area with a vibrant tournament scene you can probably get a used army pretty cheap. In my home town where the tournament scene is everything we would regularly trade armies for very little as the meta changed. I once owned a huge Krieg army I bought for $100.00 USD and a Blood Angels army half the size. I traded that army for Space Wolves, traded them for Cadian Imperial Guard, and finally traded that army for my original army I started playing with many years prior; Dark Angels. No one cared about the price as long as the army stayed in the broader community, with unique exceptions like the Krieg army because of how hard they are to acquire.

[@Chii1991]

This is exactly what I was thinking. I kinda feel the video starts with the wrong question, as it pretty much answers it within 5% of it's run time, the rest just being the process of the challenge (which, don't get me wrong, was fun to watch). I don't have the play group anecdotes to put in, but while I'm willing to concede that you're not going to get a tournament ready army in any tabletop system at the scale of 40k for 100€ (or $ or whatever), you should be able to pull together 1000pts, off the shelf, at 200€ for at least the majority of the armies available, which is very much not the case.

[@willpenn966]

@@Chii1991 $100 dollars not getting you 1000 points is criminally expensive. 40K is insanely priced.

[@killab416]

@@Chii1991$100 AUD gets me maybe 1 box of units and a low end character. It’s horrible. Buying online or at some of our third party game shops saves 10-20%, even then it’s costing me approximately $600 for 1000 points depending on the army

[@scottyboy6269]

I tried ebay..was more than from store lol

[@3gnomes1bigcoat39]

This was so much fun, You need to do this again for AoS or MESBG. Love that Zorp looks like he's filming in a sauna.

[@1rnw792]

Would love to see this as a series.

[@BattleCamperHome]

Thanks! We'll definately be doing more

[@Grubnar]

@@BattleCamperHome "Trash in! Trash out!" should be a yearly event. Thanks for the video, it was a lot of fun!

[@wtfserpico]

Hear hear!

[@40kpunk45]

Highly encourage you all to go back and watch the kill team one from about 3 years ago… still some of my favourite warhammer hobby vids ever. Pure fun and joy.

[@cameronlaw8383]

Chris' terminators going for £68 is criminal let alone the whole army! I think you should sue JMacc for market manipulation.

[@BattleCamperHome]

I've already reported film to the police. He'll be behind bars by the end of the day

[@dittmar104]

I'm shocked nobody went necrons. They're still super cheap to build. Find an old recruit edition (or old sculpts), sell the space marines, night bringer, command barge (build as two units), Doom scythe/Doomsday ark.

[@BattleCamperHome]

I agree to be honest! I was expecting a whole bunch of them. Maybe I need a better calibre of contestant...

[@wtfserpico]

@@BattleCamperHome No no no no. You had a perfect calibre of contestant!

[@samuelpentowski6077]

@@BattleCamperHomeTo be fair, some old school Necrons did show up…. In the form of inanimate plastic rod bitz.

[@scottyboy6269]

Are the old sculpts gw tourney legal?

[@dittmar104]

@@scottyboy6269 typically you’re fine you just need to worry about the base since that changes more often

[@NatesMiniatures]

I really enjoy these types of shows, it is fun to see how everyone would tackle this challenge. Living in Australia I think I could get a space marine for $100 XD And I was so happy that this was made into a 47min video, great work mate.

[@BattleCamperHome]

Thanks so much! Yea, I do feel bad for Aussie hobbyists :/

[@darrenwarner1299]

Great content loved the concept of the buying,painting and then selling to win that quality trophy presented at the end.

[@blindpsychic]

This is a great high effort video! Well done on the editing and the organization. This was a great one to stumble on

[@BattleCamperHome]

Thanks so much, really glad you liked it!

[@Dom-pu5hj]

This was my introduction to your channel. I absolutely loved this and wish my game group would be open to something like this. Please do this again and frequently!

[@BattleCamperHome]

Thanks so much! There'll definately be more. We had a blast!

[@iceniwargames6347]

The Tau didn't look half bad, not surprised they sold for the most. That oil wash worked like magic.

[@BattleCamperHome]

As much as I'm pained to say it. John knows what he's doing

[@ElpredatorGYRO]

@@BattleCamperHome The 3D printed effects were the deciding factor for the sale.

[@Jebu911]

Yeah if my opponet had a tau army like that i wouldnt first think it was painted in just one day. It looks good especially from distance. Those others need to be looked from 10meters away to look good.

[@mixmatched2342]

This is genuinely some of the most interesting and endearing content on the subject I've seen. Hope you do more stuff like this, very interesting.

[@Konekokinee]

I’m an American. I can’t even get two combat patrols for 100 pounds. Let alone any challenge against 40k being too expensive should be out of games workshops own store. I wonder why that couldn’t happen.

[@ntmetroid]

Me and my buddies are dipping out toes into Blood Bowl. Split a starter for $70 each and then $40ish for other teams if we want them. Different from full 40k but at least semi affordable

[@catfishrob1]

Uh... you can't even get one combat patrol for that price. Maybe if you get it on sale. However, while it is an expensive hobby, I don't think it's as bad as is often claimed. For certain armies you can buy 3 or 4 combat patrols over a year or so and have a full 2000pts. Let's say that's about $500 per year. PC gaming is easily that expensive, even if you only buy games on sale, when you add in hardware upgrades every few years. Snowboarding/skiing is much more expensive. I've spent $500 in a year easy in MTG, and I'm not even playing spiky formats. Traveling will cost you that much for a single week. Going to the movies with your girlfriend every other weekend is more expensive than that. Just saying, prices are high for anything. If you spend a lot of time on it and get enjoyment out of it, then I say it's worth it, and so do you, or you wouldn't play.

[@biguschungus3989]

if buying new thats like one box of models and a single character, if the character is on the cheaper side

[@Zukasaproductions]

You know it's too expensive when buying a resin 3d printer and 3d models and the necessary resin is cheaper.

[@SonofRuss95]

You can get a decent 3D scanner too. The price varies anywhere between $350-$1700, but once you have one you can create STLs out of models that already exist. See one you like? Scan it. Print it. Enjoy.

[@biguschungus3989]

honestly i wholeheartedly support people getting into 3d printing if they want and can, its so much cheaper, and you dont have to change an entire armys worth of models because everything they hyped up last month isnt the new hotness

[@Katiefan123]

imagine an old world version of this, that would be interesting

[@BattleCamperHome]

... Don't tempt me

[@heretic9984]

I watched overnight how my box of metal dwarves went from a 5k appraisal to 7k madness

[@fragfmgill]

it would work.

[@Katiefan123]

@@BattleCamperHome do it, do it, do it, esecially with how pricey it is from gw direct but how available cheap prints and 2nd hand stuff is

[@Taphosthewarlock]

@@BattleCamperHome Old world version would be great to watch!

[@dominicskelton3031]

"Whilst air beds and spirits were being deflated" is a great line.... 😂

[@Valaek]

This was great! Props to all involved for getting paint on models in that amount of time, I couldn't do half as good a job in the time allowed!

[@BattleCamperHome]

Thanks very much! Neither could I to be honest haha. That's why I gave myself the easy job of sitting on the sidelines making snide remarks

[@Dead_Fish0]

This was a really great concept! Great work! :D I would love to have seen summaries after each section because it was impossible to follow who had bought what, where they bought them, what they looked like before and after

[@TeaBowHT]

This was a fantastic video and really felt relatable to "me and a small group of friends could do this" compared to all larger form 40k videos filmed in a studio with studio lights. This was rad. Thanks for making it and I look forward to seeing what you do in future!

[@arbaal3331]

this was super fun to watch! Earned a sub and I hope to see more content like this in the future!

[@BattleCamperHome]

Thanks very much! It was great fun to make too, definately want to do more

[@wolffepaint3183]

Zorp was either in a sauna or his house was burning down slowly through the judging. Either way I appreciate the commitment

[@BattleCamperHome]

He's a good egg. I hope he survived whatever it was

[@DoomSpender]

Loved this format. Great vid.

[@nathanwtc742]

I'm a first time viewer and I really enjoyed this episode. Funny, varied and a bit... top gear- ish? I mean we have four friends solving a challenge with loads of banter and fun. Variety wise, we had modelling painting and even some mini battle reports, which were a pleasant surprise. Oh and there was some amusingly familiar movie soundtracks played on what sounded like a bbc model B music computer program from 1986. I loved it. 😊

[@Emayarceeo]

A lot of effort put in to this video, great work mate!

[@BattleCamperHome]

Thanks so much. Huge amount of work but I really enjoyed it

[@Lyosk]

So much effort that has gone into this, what a well produced video for such a "small" channel. Amazing video for fans of the hobby, keep it up my man!

[@B1ackSwordVids]

This was awesome to watch. I would love to have hobby days like this again with mates. Thank you for sharing, mate!

[@BattleCamperHome]

You're very welcome, thanks so much for watching. Hope you get to have one soon.

[@B1ackSwordVids]

@@BattleCamperHome trying to organise something now with a close friend. Either a painting session or some games of 40K KT.

[@TheEliteFour123]

I am super grateful to have stumbled across this video/channel! Forgot how cool the I thought the Tau looked and am going to pick up a battlebox at Christmas! Loving all your LOTR content btw!

[@BattleCamperHome]

Rushed so much!!! Really glad you enjoyed it. Good time to be into the MESBG stuff!!

[@JRock3091]

An army of ultra marines, including the starting set. Is Currently $874 US. Without including time, paint, glue, pins/magnet connectors ect. Thst is an insane barrier to entery.

[@FoldedSheet]

Great idea and very well executed! Lots of effort clearly went into this and it was fun to watch - thanks and look forward to the next one!

[@BattleCamperHome]

Thank you! We had a blast making it. Can't wait to do more

[@JackOfDiceAndThem]

First time I've watched one of your videos - I've subscribed for more! I enjoyed the premise, I enjoyed the play by play of each section. I think all of them were completely robbed in terms of prices on ebay, even the Tau to a degree! Looking forward to exploring your content!

[@elricdotah]

I don't really know why you subtracted the 100 points for the 100 dollars they spent, 41 points for the orks VP and 95 for the eldars paint job (with the last one being especially out of left field), because otherwise everyone would have at least positive points and in relation to each other it didn't make any difference. Maybe divide by the amount of challenges in the end to get an average after also awarding 100 points for getting to 1000 points.

[@BattleCamperHome]

To be honest, I just thought it was funny that they all got trash scores!

[@CordovanSplotchVT]

@@BattleCamperHome So how much did you spend on models and paints for that Eldar army? Gotta remember to subtract points for how much you go over the 100 pound budget.

[@blackfalcon53]

The moral cowardice of none of the contestants choosing harlequins or thousand sons to paint was disappointing … but otherwise great video!

[@BattleCamperHome]

Haha couldn't agree more. Or an all infantry Guard hoard

[@Solar_GB]

I really enjoyed this! Def earned a sub and hope u make more in the future. Great work honestly.

[@BattleCamperHome]

Thanks very much I really appreciate it. There'll definately be more!

[@40kpunk45]

This was very fun… your ‘weekender hobby challenge’ vids are some of my favourite. I’ll never forget ‘make products’ 😂

[@cameronmills2826]

Never played this game, never bought a mini, I know very little about the universe of the 40k, and all that to say I had a great time watching this video! Such a fun looking time all around.

[@mopanda81]

do people actually have 1,000 point tournies? I think one of the bigger challenges in the US is not only do we get everything as an "import" but people default to 2k points to the point that it can be hard to find games below that

[@euansmith3699]

Well done, John! Commitment, talent, hard work and a laissez-faire approach to the competition rules will always carry you through. Huzzah!

[@BattleCamperHome]

He shows that grifting pays dividends

[@SendarSlayer]

Battletech: Grab 2 lance boxes for $50 each. You now have Both player's armies

[@vonshroom2068]

Pay $250 and you pretty much have all the mechs you'd ever want. Though plastic quality is alway a pain so i'd rather have companies just license STLs of their mini's.

[@gstellar96]

I'd rather have decent looking minis

[@12gibbinsl1]

Brilliant concept for a video and great execution, really hope to see more like this!

[@BattleCamperHome]

Thank you! There will definately be more

[@ChristopherSimpson-c5j]

In some distant future It will cost 40k just to afford a small squad.

[@AFOKHAOS]

This is just absolutely brilliant. Was hooked from start to finish! A great idea!

[@BattleCamperHome]

Thank you! Much appreciated. Really glad you enjoyed

[@davidstanford-beale183]

Loved this. This is peak 40K content and I wish I could do this sort of thing

[@BattleCamperHome]

Thank you, that's very kind. It was a lot of fun!

[@spiffypilgrim8865]

surprised you dont have more subs, this is a really good video man

[@BattleCamperHome]

Thanks very much. This is my first to take off so maybe there'll be more?

[@Lefttypewriter]

This feels like an old school top gear challenge with 40k :) I love it

[@BattleCamperHome]

Thanks man! That's the vibe I'm after

[@rt2thegod]

My strategy for this challenge would be getting the necron Ctan shard models since they're like 280pts each and can be printed quite cheap due to their size. Even buying them officially they are only like 35$.

[@BattleCamperHome]

That's a good shout! There was a 15 midweek minimum so maybe one block of warriors?

[@kylew1219]

It just proves that games workshop is overpriced because they had to buy secondhand give them 100 bucks and tell them they can’t buy secondhand and see what they have

[@ccggenius]

Not much content to be wrung out of a single minimum strength troop choice and two unnamed characters.

[@EntmootVideos]

Very entertaining video this - I do feel bad for all the loss made on the armies, they didn’t deserve such poor bids! But I guess shows we can get armies for way less than £100!

[@BattleCamperHome]

Yea, I felt bad tbh, they deserved some prize money. But it does show what you can do if you get lucky I guess!

[@McBeagleHound]

What a great video, first time coming across this channel. Subscribed!

[@BattleCamperHome]

Thank you very much! Really glad you enjoyed it :)

[@GargoyleBard]

I'm guessing the green bars were sighting lasers?

[@BattleCamperHome]

I think so. for some reason they really tickled me

[@joshmortimer3433]

Amazing video, loved this.... can't believe J Macc won but his wash on white scheme was simply amazing. Then added in with those colourful 3D prints just made it so nice. good video. can;t wait for next years competition.

[@tubulartater8960]

This was an amazing idea for a video and was so entertaining to watch dude, awesome work

[@BattleCamperHome]

Thank you!! Really glad you enjoyed it

[@websta1144]

I hope you manage to recoup some of that money from the video at least hahah! Brilliant, gotta love the half naked scotsman being completely lore accurate aswell. Something to take away from this, this is 100% what wargaming is all about. Getting together with a bunch of mates crashing on the settee, airbeds or topping and tailing, munching some pizza and having a fucking fun time watching a shit film. 10/10 having the best time. Thankyou for the content

[@BattleCamperHome]

Couldn't agree more!! Thanks so much for the comment. I'm really glad you liked it :)

[@YaBoiSwiSSly]

This was bloody brilliant. Well done!

[@BattleCamperHome]

Thanks very much! Glad you liked it!

[@chaplain1112]

Just a bunch of lads cracking on like proper gamers. Well done boys

[@BattleCamperHome]

Thank you! It was so much fun :)

[@seanclarke8015]

John would have actually eaten that crisp as well. This looks like a lot of fun and the gaming has made me glance longingly at the grey eldar waiting to get painted!

[@BattleCamperHome]

They're a beautiful army to be sure! A good time too with the Codex and more Aspects coming next year

[@TheBasicBrush]

@BattleCamper just discovered you channel from this video. Very much enjoyed it and went on to watch several others. Great work! If you are ever in Manchester please hit me up. I plan on restarting my channel next year now the kids older! Need more channela like yours, realistic wargaming perspective!

[@BattleCamperHome]

Thanks very much!! I'll certainly let you know. I hope you're able to get back out the channel. Can't imagine how difficult that is to balance with kids

[@peterbakker971]

The painting on the Eldar army was so hot, it created a small housefire at the other side of the world😂. Cool video!

[@thisisapen]

9:06 is an old techmarine, missing its arm backpack. It’s early, 2nd-4th edition.

[@samsowden]

JMacc: Lesson learned. Don't travel unprepared to the tropical hellhole of the Home Counties.

[@Joebob31100]

what is the music you are using when explaining your Eldar army around the 23 minute mark? It sounds like a cover of Anakin vs Obi-Wan

[@c4darkmane616]

Hayden's Standard bearer is quiet rare, it was from the SKULLZ promotion in the 90's some people pay silly money for him. Great episode. I love these kinds of challenges

[@BattleCamperHome]

Thank you! I didn't know that about the Standard Bearer. And look what we did to him 😬

[@NattyNimrod]

Never played anything Warhammer or had much interest in it but after watching this I'm keen to learn. This is a great video keep it up

[@richardwright5234]

I can already smell that wargamer funk in the room

[@BattleCamperHome]

We filmed it four months ago and its still not fully gone 😅

[@wtfserpico]

What a fun video! Bravo to you and the lads.

[@quintonellis4378]

Thanks was fun watching. Bloody John lol

[@BattleCamperHome]

Glad you liked it. Thank you!

[@gergohrusko2672]

I think the only way of making this challenge work with no second-hand miniatures is the custodes combat patrol. You can get it for ~85 pounds and with enhancements it's a 1k list that is actually "playable" in 10e

[@BattleCamperHome]

Yea, good thinking. I was supposed no one did this!

[@azuzak]

Great video. Enjoyed it a lot. Having said that all I learned from it was that marine armies don't bring in the money on ebay like tau lol

[@BattleCamperHome]

Haha. Thank you. Yes, not a good lesson, but a lesson nonetheless :)

[@jacobanderson2285]

the stink in that room after 4 neckbeards spent the night was probably insane.

[@BattleCamperHome]

You can't imagine

[@luigisaguier8336]

Where can I find that terrain mat?

[@TheBrokensaintvxvx]

"here's £100 don't exceed that for your army" "You also have points and 3D printing to do the thing. " Why not invest in 3D printed miniatures for like... £26-50 instead?

[@BattleCamperHome]

Well, I didn't actually anticipate John 3D printing so may have stopped him haha. It's more a bit of fun than a serious test.

[@PanzersnCricket]

Now do the same with a historical game, such as bolt action 32:50 why does this song sound so familiar

[@Shimmy8]

Oh this is fun! Glad I found your channel.

[@glynnseymour7587]

Nice of ya to get your content partner and kids in a family friendly video! Great idea and theme for a vid, definitely could do AOS, MESBG with the same format!

[@rengerkaterberg6838]

This is one of your most fun videos. Loved it.

[@BattleCamperHome]

Thank you! We had so much fun making it

[@cwj138]

Glad nobody was boring enough to just get a custodes combat patrol and culexus assassin. Fun vid.

[@RGM-89-Jegan]

John has done us in Glasgow proud with that true sportsman ship would expect nothing less

[@braveryisavirtue]

I have zero interest in 40k but gladly watched this video because of the concept. I think this would be great for MESBG as well. Happy for you that this video has smashed your record views total. Hope the Algorithm helps spread your channel to a wider audience.

[@BattleCamperHome]

Thanks so much! I would love to do an MESBG one in the future! All praise the algorithm...

[@zankarne]

Where can I get the large desk lamp?

[@BattleCamperHome]

Hey, I got it on Amazon, its called the "Daylight Company Lumi Task Lamp". I love it.

[@stephenzable]

First intro to your Channel and thoroughly enjoyed! Makes me want to try this myself! John's mini's were unreal for the time he had, you can tell he's a commissioned painter. Does he have a website from which one could procure his services?

[@daniellind7559]

that ultramarine banner im dying xD also a little sad that Grahm didnt get any + points for the base work, he had the best bases out of all xD

[@LizardofDoom]

Great video concept brother!

[@BattleCamperHome]

Thanks so much mate! Really appreciate it

[@meti1939]

The pain on my face watching this as an Australian when even singular mini's not even in boxes sell for $60 minimum :')

[@japreet_kah]

Becuase we tax you for escaping and making your own country XD

[@BattleCamperHome]

I am sorry on my country's behalf

[@purerel]

Love this idea, very entertaining. Can the next one be MESBG with the same budget? It would be fun to see what players could source.

[@codyexplainsitall]

This was such a fun video to watch. Great premise.

[@BrutherBean]

The lord of the rings music in the back was absolute fire - where did you find it?

[@BattleCamperHome]

Thanks so much. I make the music for the channel :)

[@paulithai]

Hi, whos the music from? I like the covers a lot!

[@BattleCamperHome]

Thanks very much. I make the music for the channel :)

[@contrajey]

I kinda want to do something similar with a bunch of friends. This is awesome.

[@BattleCamperHome]

Than you :) It was so much fun, I highly recommend it!

[@japreet_kah]

They are pushing the price up before their own end. 3D printing will end this company! They are milking it before the end comes

[@jackkyle8414]

BRO! 9:14 THAT DUDE'S GOT THE GOD DAMN MASTER SWORD

[@Kinaro666]

you should have me a kobold in that challenge. I would show you all how its done!

[@surpriseandterror9698]

Would love this as an annual tradition! Delightful stuff.

[@amarmunaev7939]

I really have to say this could be a great series very interesting take on the hobby but I would love to see the points limits drop a bit to maybe 750p for an army or change the edition because in older edition there is more room for conversions and also you need less miniatures). But great work overall

[@ericpartridge8300]

When it was announced that John bid on his minis, I actually cackled, that was so funny lol.

[@BattleCamperHome]

Gotta love him for the audacity.

[@tanker7107]

love this whole concept, seems like good fun!

[@Rolman3D]

I recently picked up a new on sprue Necron annihilation barge for 0.99 + 4 ship as an imperium magazine from eBay. So I’d say buying a bunch of the imperium magazines from eBay would’ve probably yielded better value for money. This was an interesting watch though

[@tmcnasty8447]

i gotta say. WHAT AN INTRO.

[@drukawski]

100% chance John found the auction listings and bid up own army up.

[@hunsler1006]

As someone who knows nothing about 40k. This video was 40% gibberish to me. But 100% gold 😂

[@basstedson]

Did you ban folk from just getting a leviathan half?

[@BattleCamperHome]

Haha. No actually! I wondered whether someone would but no one thought of it 😅