I Gave Stockfish Only Pawns 😮

[@nishusaif6085]

Next challenge: There is this engine called Blue Marlin that is designed to ONLY play attacking and aggressive moves. Put it up against Nelson, Magni and Stockfish.

[@laizerss]

Put it up against Nelson 😅 the bot right

[@tianlecheng2656]

blue marlin vs blue martin

[@MislavIvkovic-sx8vd]

Last game maybe you have a chance to force a stalmate???😂😂😂

[@webbraham2768]

33:50 “Just to recap, he had a lot of pawns” Killed me 😂😂😂

[@MiningPro41]

Realest stuff ever

[@JustAnotherCommenter]

Big if real

[@danquaylesitsspeltpotatoe8307]

Pawns win clearly for anyone who isnt challenged! No point playing it if you have nay idea on how pawns work in chess!

[@caioconfirma7322]

@@danquaylesitsspeltpotatoe8307 niceeee doctor boring

[@SrikrishYT]

Eval bar ❌ Evil bar ✅

[@enderyu]

With the occasional jumpscares to scare Nelson

[@nmrs4342]

Next challenge: chess against Martin, but in each turn you can play every move EXCEPT for the top engine move! This means: 1. the only way to checkmate your opponent is if you have 2 possible mate-in-1s in one turn 2. if you have 1 legal move, the opponent wins!

[@enderyu]

If that ends up being too easy then you are not allowed none of the 3 listed top engine moves

[@laizerss]

but it isn't the best move it is forced

[@laizerss]

ohhhh nvm.. I just realized forced moves are always top engine moves 😢

[@JustAnotherCommenter]

3. If en passant is the top engine move, you lose (because it's forced) /j

[@schwingedeshaehers]

if it is to easy, you check if it eas the top engine move after you moved, not before​@@enderyu

[@oldnickdeadpoolguy]

Anyone going to mention the fact that that that engine is Komodo not Stockfish

[@CanariasCanariass]

Finally, been searching for that comment

[@ThomateMaligno]

7:33 I just noticed that he mentions that it's not stockfish around this time

[@Okada_Caelun]

1:45 "Should I sac the queen?" If you did (A5 to A3, followed by Stockfish doing B2 to A3), then you could have retaken with the Rook (A8 to A3). The Rook is now effectivly behind enemy lines. Move him to A2 next, and you can slaughter pauns at your leisure (or just checkmate if stockfish doesn't move another 2 rank pawn)

[@toaster4693]

Yeah I was confused why he didn't do that.

[@pablojp3498]

So confused as well

[@danielyuan9862]

8:16 "There is mate, but I don't see it. But I do see free pawns" Spoken like a true chess beginner.

[@赤砂-z3u]

Literally me😂

[@CanariasCanariass]

​@@赤砂-z3u Me too😂

[@JamesSucksAtRoblox]

hes not a beginner and i get the joke just wanted to let you know

[@solanumtuberosums]

Idea: Chess vs Martin, but you have Stockfish showing you the best moves. But the catch is, you can't make any of those moves. (You can go either top 3, 2 or just the top move).

[@bayern1806]

You cant go any move stockfish shows

[@sammarks9146]

Eval bar: "Oh, I see your plan!!! That's brilliant! ...I mean horrible!"

[@John73John]

Yeah it reminded me of that scene with Homer Simpson and the Frogurt salesman. "That's good." "That's bad." "That's good." "That's bad."

[@papalyosha]

Eval bar is stockfish's psychological weapon. This is how AI do trash talking.

[@MIMI_DACAT]

9:04 ayo nelson

[@MaskOfCinder]

Lmao

[@aididdat1749]

I remember playing Rome Total War against only peasants.

[@martinhusfeldt9583]

Oh, yes, I know that kind of stuff: "there's a mate, but I don't see it"

[@christopherheckman7957]

0:42 Horde Chess Lives! 3:43 and 13:05 Sacrifice .... the ROOOOOOOOK!!! 14:55 This reminds me of the video game Space Invaders. 22:44 Stockfish randomly changes the eval bar to scare Nelson. 29:39 "Don't play 'Hope Chess'!"

[@boomknight1015]

5:00 as a 1k, I knew that knight move was a large blunder. You lost out on free pawns just pawn taking with queen and instead you tired to force a mate that wasn't then close to there. A knight and queen can't check mate a king alone when king is in middle of the board.

[@RiseOfLeon]

At 29:37 take with the rook on the right if “stockfish” takes it opens up your queen for backrank

[@kurtwpg]

1:38 you should have gone Knight-d5. If he takes it you get your Bishop into the back rank, you've traded a Knight for 2 Pawns and more of his pawns are threatened.

[@TymexComputing]

In Horde variant there is no white king but 36 pawns :), 8 pawns on 1st rank and the game is justful. So here a king is worth 3 pawns :)

[@timm439]

Seems like you could attack through one of the flanks and bring in the queen every time. Many times where a single rook sac would’ve broken through.

[@LLLLLL-wp9bz]

Good point. The rook file is white’s weak point. Concentration of time and material on a queenside assault with sacrifices to open that rook file… rather than the more opportunistic sacrifices he seem to have been making…allocating time to kingside only as needed…

[@3RAN7ON]

I kept waiting for the computer to get a pawn across and redeem for a queen

[@ultrix2751]

nobody talks about this fire background beat

[@justinjozokos1699]

At 7:27, Stockfish went Kd1 and you called it a weird, but it was a defense against the mating threat of Qc1#. The only moves that protect against that mate are Kd1, e3, and e4. By going Kd1, stockfish also defends the c pawn. The other two possible moves (e3 and e4) lose it because after Qc1+, Ke2 would be forced, allowing Qxc2. Therefore Kd1 was the only move that both defended against mate and also defended the c pawn, so it’s not all that strange of a move.

[@LostKin69]

Challenge: Copycat. You can only move what Martin moves. If he moves a pawn, you must move your pawn on that file. If that's not possible, move any pawn you want. If he moves a bishop, you must move the bishop of the same color. If that's not possible, move the other bishop. If he moves a rook, move any rook you want. Same with knights. If a copycat move isn't possible, you can play whatever you want until a copycat becomes possible again. Once Martin only has a king left, you can move anything you want (otherwise you couldn't checkmate)

[@askmiller]

It would be interesting to see how engines like alphazero compare in this challenge. The machine learning trained engines might struggle evaluating positions which are not possible to achieve since it would put into question if its strategies do in fact generalize to these types of positions.

[@markreynolds1436]

You sir, are a pawn STAR!

[@kenw2225]

Dammit. The pawn queening vs. 30 pawns I was dreading that when you said just castles. Lots of pawn ya got there

[@MrFerod1]

Now stockfish has OnlyPawns account!

[@ayankakaktwtetete9056]

Next challenge : play against stock fish but you have a switch potion that can change stockfish to martin. Every time you loose , you can add 1 more potion. If you win , you may try with a stronger bot.

[@NJDJ1986]

next up: 39 pawn starting 7 pawns at the first rank!

[@PauIdenino]

This is a fun challenge, see how many pawns against stockfish you can beat.

[@raghavaramanr1657]

I loved this challenge, especially how eval bar was totally swinging on both sides😂 One small alteration for this challenge :- from 33rd pawn onwards, fill the pawns on the first rank (next to the king) Maybe this time the pawns will take longer to create a threat for the queen and rook, surely would make a difference, worth trying

[@igorporfiirio4915]

The problem with this is that you have 0 experience in thus situation while stockfish don't care about experience.

[@thatbostix2]

"Maximum" is Komodo, when you go in analysis it shows itself as Komodo

[@ryryryan6000]

This is the “how many 5 year olds can you beat up in one go” lol

[@laizerss]

remove "up"

[@harikumars1487]

Challenge: Play against Martin, but every 2 out of your 3 moves should a bad move/blunder etc. If you win, switch to a higher rated bot and reach the highest rated bot you can in this challenge.

[@Trocked2000]

Day 1 of challege: beat nelson with the queen and a bishop

[@ricasiogaming7873]

I think the engine might’ve had trouble using it’s min/max algorithm with so many possible moves to calculate.

[@kenw2225]

It's either overvaluing or undervaluing all the pawns abilities. Not taking pieces is bad strategy. It's leaving talkable pieces for position, when it's pointless. I think it's undervaluing the pawns as a whole, and just as a 1

[@anthonyrooksac]

this is similar to horde chess, except horde chess white's side do not have the king. Maybe Nelson can challenge stockfish about atomic, spell, giveaway, 3 check and king of the hill.

[@blue_red_screen]

If he's beating stockfish then does black always have the advantage in horde chess?

[@user-dh8oi2mk4f]

@@blue_red_screen well I don't think the engine he was playing against was very good at evaluating horde

[@blue_red_screen]

@@user-dh8oi2mk4f but it's still a chess position isn't it?

[@user-dh8oi2mk4f]

@@blue_red_screen no? This position would never occur in a real chess game. Sure, it’s still played with the standard chess rules, but it’s very far removed from normal chess. Humans can adapt to these changes without too much trouble, but engines never test on these types of positions, so they struggle to evaluate them correctly, especially nnue engines

[@rn8306]

The only way to win here is to break through the pawns. Once you have broken through it's easy as they can't fight backwards. Just make very sure they don't get promoted.

[@robinhagner]

Next challenge: chess against martin but you must promote all your pawns

[@John73John]

Idea for a challenge: Stockfish has the standard setup. You have standard setup except replace your knights with extra queens. If that's too hard, then also replace the bishops.

[@connorcrump3825]

That would be insanely easy

[@SMART_MOTIVATIONYT]

12:46 in this time he can go to g7 his qween and kill that single pawn to get to king and kill other remaining pawns

[@mrjdgibbs]

At 1:51 i think I would've just sacrificed the rook and busted in with the queen.

[@williammichaelblackburn5167]

What if you played a game where certain pieces like the rooks or maybe knights were off sides…

[@kats7930]

I love you Nelson! 🫶 This made me laugh so darn hard!! 😊

[@tottenvillelegend826]

Love your chess experiments!!

[@thatinternetdude1392]

24 pawns "This already looks way more normal" lmao

[@AlanMathewPolson]

This is basically Russia's war strategy. Throw enough pawns at the enemy until you win.

[@Yildirim.Bayezid]

30 million ☠️

[@michaelsumner-ru9bo]

Push on one side or the other. Pawns first. Once you break through, one piece can demolish a lot.

[@Galahad54]

Great idea. Now, try to beat Stockfish when you have 33 pawns and count backwards.

[@RaviKumar-qu1bk]

Pawnziani opening part 2 when

[@CyberSurvivor44]

3:06 "this already looks much more normal" in what world does this look the slightest bit normal???

[@srslyxan]

This is like those how many coat hangers does it take to hold my weight videos lol😂

[@scowell]

01:34 the games over if you put your knight on G4 and it takes it. I'll keep watching to see what happens.

[@scowell]

Nah... you go for it... not my style.

[@PP1969GR]

give Stocklfish more time to think

[@sergioortiz8219]

I think it's a lot more instructive to take rook odds, or rook+pawn, etc., than to play against Stockfish with 26 pawns.

[@Trizzer89]

That eval bar has no idea what is going on

[@guerinoprosper4689]

FIENDHEATO😂 17:45

[@guerinoprosper4689]

I suck at spelling of 😅

[@blue_red_screen]

16:40 how can 3200 stockfish blunder like that???

[@JimmyBoosterCrate]

Bro just discovered horde lmao

[@peterolbrisch8970]

Can you play a game that eliminates the four middle squares? Pieces can't cross the empty spaces.

[@littleschnitzel8226]

33 pawns + king is more or less the standard horde strength

[@saulgoodman1487]

How many knights to beat stockfish?

[@endyourif]

I thoroughly enjoyed this type of video as a 6+ month subscriber!

[@GreenMeansGOF]

You should put the 33rd pawn on the first rank and go from there.

[@studgerbil9081]

sac whatever you need to open up the a or h file and mate with rook before the king can move the pawns ahead of him.

[@Posic_]

I played this challenge before the eval bar didn’t help at all when it said I had the advantage but I got checkmated 😂

[@virt1one]

you require more min- I mean PAWNS

[@Mercury13kiev]

Some sort of cheskers = chess + checkers.

[@youssefashraf3945]

there is game like this called horde this game is white have 36 pawn and no king and the black have all his pieces black Wins wen take all white pawns this game only on lichess

[@blue_red_screen]

That didn't seem like full strength stockfish

[@magicsinglez]

Stockfish likes to attack too much. It’s actually stupid. Why not keep the wall f pawns together as he moves up?

[@andrewbennett5911]

Hi Nelson , how do you set up a position like this ? I tried on " custom set up " , but it only said it was an invalid position ! Thank you

[@Y.Z-Au]

I see your strategy now: Pawns are weak. Just breach anywhere and they are defenseless in their rear. It's a race of whether AI promotes queens first or the player kills everything first.

[@evaphan2720]

CALM DOWN WITH THE PAWNS

[@great2642]

how many knights do you need to beat stockfish

[@juaneldesconocido2186]

Can you play Horde against Stockfish? Or Sf don't play without a king?

[@magicsinglez]

Stock fish will crush you.

[@ModernCombatZocker]

How do you Set up this positions and play them?

[@kkorczy]

Why do you mention Stockfish when playing with the Komodo engine?

[@landen99]

Let's stack everything! ..wait what? How did I lose?

[@PickBit]

The real question is: eval bar or evil bar? Smells like (stock)fish

[@maddoc1974]

Hmm comp played quite badly there giving so much free not securing pieces with other pawns maybe that much pawns just messes it up

[@DaveMathewslayer0345]

I misread only pawns to only fans 💀

[@DiamondWolfX]

What if you played the pawns against a 700 bot?

[@jovisthompson2390]

uhh sir thats a pawnzi scheme

[@SuperHansburger93]

I think even starting with 28 pawns is actually winning for white, but AIs are trained by analyzing real games. They have no idea how to properly evaluate position with more than 8 pawns on each side because such game doesn't exist. In order to win this, white needs to think outside the box and come up with tactics and strategies never seen before. This is something akin to general intelligence. And AIs can't do that... yet.

[@tiredVeteran1984]

Make it more difficult. Not easier. Put the pawns on rhe back rank

[@peterolbrisch8970]

Can stockfish play 960?

[@probablyanon]

next give stockfish kngihts

[@veracsthedefiled]

I think this is Dragon not stockfish

[@alwaysprepared]

I have a theory. I'm thinking the engine may have a deficiency when calculating the situation with so many pawns. I base that on the manic way the eval bar reacts and the fact that the programmers probably never envisioned that someone would put so many pawns on the board. So, they may not have optimized the program for this type of advantage... It makes sense since in real life this situation could never happen... Again, just a theory...

[@Galahad54]

As a chess coder, it's running into the horizon effect. The best line at, say, 17 moves for the human fails at move 18 due to a pawn queening. so then the computer thinks it's winning until it finds a line where the human can stop a pawn queening for one more move. Then it has to go through all the other initial moves until it finds a line ... and it runs out of time to evaluate positions. Its static evaluator would need a different for each pawn structure, and that's too many. Of course, one could build an opening book by letting it play itself ...

[@alwaysprepared]

@@Galahad54 Interesting. That makes some sense... Thanx for the reply!!

[@claudiacarrasco908]

4:27 knight g6 ;-;

[@baratthuj]

34:13 can anyone explain why Queen D8 isn't a good move over thers ??

[@funkyhat8176]

After stockfish promotes on g8 it can push the pawn on c6. White can then promote with either the c7 or d7 pawns, either way the new queen is protected by a pawn that can promote after black captures it.

[@baratthuj]

@@funkyhat8176 tnx bro 🙏 It can't move pawn g8 first, it had to attack with pawn c7 and then promote, but I get the point.

[@lipschitzlyapunov]

I dont understand why you dont exploit the a and h pawns by blockading the pawns with a rook and then sacing one rook to collapse the whole side of the board. If Stockfish pushes, then you would get a free a or h pawn. That's how I beat vs Stockfish 34 pawns Like at 29:38 Rxa4 would've allowed you to break through or at least get a free pawn, instead you ended up saving every piece with no positional advantage

[@Jartran72]

Not Stockfish. Komodo Why don't you get the fairy stockfish or whatever it is called you know the one that is designed to play non default starting positions

[@CanariasCanariass]

That's not stockfish though... is it?

[@pahom2]

Why are you pressing on a piece twice making it wobble? I saw this is done by Hikaru as well. Why chess players do this?

[@Frahamen]

OnlyPawns 😳😳😳😳😳

[@avm36]

its komodo not stockfish

[@visibletoallusersonyoutube5928]

He addresses that in the video for people like you

[@avm36]

@@visibletoallusersonyoutube5928 im talking about the title.

[@visibletoallusersonyoutube5928]

@@avm36 doesn't really make much of a difference imo but ok