I Got Into Huge Drama

[@joexplainz2708]

appreciate DL coming back and revising his statement after reflecting on the situation. respect.

[@Foolbool_]

DL is afraid of T1's fan base that's all

[@thespudofspuds8798]

"Everyone but me is trash" has become "they run it down, no mercy, in every region."

[@EtomidateEnjoyer]

Big respect for not going hard on an emotional reaction

[@blobitz9648]

Was a classic "knee-jerk emotional reaction" followed by the old "Ah wait this guys more right then wrong though....fuckkkkk"

[@MoreDoublelift]

Uploaded the wrong video 💀, hence the re-upload.

[@Michael_M.]

I thought you were just trolling the notification gang with "HUGE DRAMA" -> *Deleted video* 💀

[@deathpanda0605]

Doublelift reviewing an Esports video that's reviewing Doublelift's reaction on T1's video. Now we need CoreJJ's view

[@nattyboop4]

Just like a narcissist that loves to stir the pot. Dudes been a washed drama baiter even back when LCS was relevant lmao.

[@Vendrix86]

@@nattyboop4and you love to watch him lol.

[@nattyboop4]

@@Vendrix86 i literally havent followed DL or the LCS since 2013 (Im old). I like Tyler1 though so thats why I'm here. The whole dismissive trick that I can't come on someones comment page and say something without being an obsessed hater is played out, buddy. I feel no specific way about it at all, but DL has been a drama-baiter for as long as he's been around. Thats just a fact.

[@Vendrix86]

@@nattyboop4well you clearly felt strong enough to leave a comment. No one who actually doesn't care leaves a comment. Think about it for a sec. Also, the irony of not liking DL but liking T1 lol. Ok. I guess we have different thoughts on what drama-baiting actually is. I see that term as someone intentionally saying or doing something for clout or just to stir the pot. That's not something that DL does but you'd have to watch him to know that instead of relying on hearsay which you seem to be doing if you haven't watched since 2013, (I'm old too not like it matters here). But by your very loose definition, what T1 is doing here qualifies. But I'm sure you'll find some way to rationalize it since you're a fan...

[@jkvltra804]

Whenever a pro gets gapped they say "it's solo q, you think I'm actually trying? Who cares?" to cope so they shouldn't be shocked when people believe them and assume they're running it down when sometimes they're actually just getting body bagged by solo q randoms.

[@bklb5921]

Lmao, love the clickbait title. Waiting for the Tyler1 agreeing with agreeing with Doublelift react angle.

[@brok3worth512]

You should see t1 going off on Niles XD

[@joexplainz2708]

mans is on a rampage.

[@diaperamess]

that was legendary flame

[@georgesheldon9013]

T1 is not wrong tho about either of his takes. It’s clear that NA pros do not have the same level of dedication to being the best and end up being worse then amateur players from China and Korea. When champions queue was a thing, the pros played it for a week or 2 then couldn’t be asked and it died off as quickly as it came. This losers mentality paid off for them though as their paychecks are only getting smaller due to the economic downturn in unprofitable investments and that NA league scene is dying.

[@ejswentura823]

but aside his agresive attitude, tyler has right in this case, all of these pseudo pro players, they are literally paycheck players, they dont care to improve or anything

[@Lexcalibur04]

How do u know?

[@Lexcalibur04]

Like palafox, Who clearly tries to improve

[@ejswentura823]

any other region than korea, china is a joke. you could gather random challenger players from top100 of each region and they possibly be on same level as these clowns

[@Lumpaa]

@@Lexcalibur04 They can't compete against korea.

[@yyhn7168]

I think it's more of a lack of an eye for talent by the GM's and coaches. How there's a lot of challenger players yet washed people are still getting hired and coached after not showing improvement for a long time. They need better scouts and coaches imo. It's symptomatic of GM's being paycheck stealers as well.

[@defi71zh]

this is a good take from doublelift, it is totally fair to walk back on parts of your argument after some reflection. I think what he says here is right. as usual the argument isnt just one or the other side

[@brandondimopoulos9534]

The issue is NA at international events. Our teams can blow out the competition in na but the minute we are at international events our teams make mistakes we dont see here snd korean teams just pounces like dan schnider at Nickelodeon

[@jamesplitter14]

all those times tyler ran it down mid is coming back to him

[@sampreece]

They came back to him years ago…

[@anbuhyuga8299]

Coming back to him? He was banned for 2 years because of it already if you didn't know. I don't think he would complain if these players got the same punishments.

[@BurritooMafia]

Nah fr he did his time and is reformed now this is just unacceptable@@anbuhyuga8299

[@watermage25]

@@anbuhyuga8299for what exactly? Bad game, which he also has?

[@anbuhyuga8299]

@watermage25 Ahhh, yes. A challanger Aatrox thought he could 1v1 a Fiora. You're right. He probably didn't know that Fiora is an impoosible matchup. Challanger and professional pro btw. Yupp, just bad game.

[@bobon222]

Corejj really ran it down. Soloq supports are better than him. He's a pro and it should reflect in his gameplay.

[@TheJodalorn]

I don't have an issue with the CoreJJ stuff, but the Niles situation he definitely went way too far. I think becoming a dad will be a huge eye opener for Tyler, there are just some things you don't say to other human beings, especially over a video game, and one of them is telling someone their literal life has no meaning.

[@SquishyBush]

What he said was wrong but it was not incorrect

[@anbuhyuga8299]

It's a VIDEO GAME. Why are people so soft bro. If you take some guys post game tilt to heart, go play Stardew Valley, or better yet, don't go to the guys freaking stream to argue with him in his chat. Stick you head out the damn beehive if you don't wanna get stung crybaby.

[@Palindrome3945]

Bully will not stop bullying magically when he'll got a kid. If anything, he'll be even more smug like "I got a kid what do you got in your life" type of shit.

[@ExcedereInInfinitum]

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[@drcheesecak3]

if you actually open your eyes and watch it was not the int into fiora the reason he went hard. it was bc Niles himself went into Tylers chat and typed that he was doing the correct play. Thats when the real flame started. Also he was right, quit being a snowflake and grow a thicker skull

[@truman368]

tyler1 is right tho

[@shotgunammo]

thats what DL said

[@ciscofs]

People are too quick to forget what Xore has done to help NA such as creating pro in-houses and spending a lot of time trying to make the younger generation of pro players better. But no lets flame Core for running down a single game worth 30 min and 20 lp!

[@Frankd24875]

holy shit. I aspire to be as level headed as doublelift seems to be in his 30s arc.

[@af_125]

cringe you actually wrote 30s arc I'm sorry but what LOL

[@minartson]

DL and defending this god forsaken region, name a more iconic duo

[@lbbmogley1527]

We see a lot of lpl lck players actually trying to get better in solo q. In NA it's still a laughing stock. We aren't trying in solo q at all NA is still doomed in my eyes n I love this region. Smh man smh

[@futsk01]

I feel like the entire NA server, not just the pros, could do with trying a little harder in ranked

[@kiragi17]

Isn't this coming from the guy who had an int list? What goes around ya?

[@rejask448]

So everyone’s on the same page when he criticizes Niles, but when he’s right about other people suddenly it’s wrong

[@joycezhang3612]

nice of doublelift to say this. agree tyler1 is a hypocrite

[@apheligoat]

proud of you DL

[@Camjee]

man who has never worked a day in his life complaining about other people striking is top class

[@Crodas535]

So you call Tyler playing games not a job but lcs players playing a game is a job? You have brain rot

[@theannoyer2953]

well hes still a millionaire so who care .

[@justincontreras3046]

How do you know he hasnt worked though lmao

[@anbuhyuga8299]

​@@justincontreras3046 Pretty sure he went straight from college into streaming. But, I'd challenge anyone to put as much time that he has into league and not call it work. The guy probably plays the game more than even the pros do, and are the most entertaining person on the internet while doing it too. If he hasn't earned the right to judge, who tf has.

[@justincontreras3046]

@@anbuhyuga8299 yeah just because he doesnt have a miserable job doesnt mean he never worked dudes an idiot

[@kjvmsc]

respect for revising the position on Core; but has T actually soft inted recently? everyone knows his history, but as far as i know, he’s been sweating the piss out of every game for a while now - ever since his all role challenger run.

[@TTTRRR]

He didn't revise his position on Core... he watched T1 review the vod and agreed with T1 that Core was inting from the jump. He also said (in his original take) T1 soft inted a game they were in together earlier in the current season.

[@kjvmsc]

@@TTTRRR ...what? my dude, did you watch the video? Double literally says "man, i'm gonna revise my statement here guys; Core was inting him, and if i got inted by anyone, i'd be mad too." in the previous video, he straight up said "he inted his game, who cares" after saying initially saying gems like "this doesn't mean that Core is just like, not trying - he's just like, 4funning it a bit." he *definitely* did not agree that Core was inting from the jump. and when did he say anything about the current season in his previous take? he mentioned T1 tanking an entire Jhin ult, but when did he mention this season?

[@porky5567]

tyler doesn't out right int anymore but he will "4 fun" where he plays extremely risky and limt tests but that's only if he doesn't think the game is winnable

[@BobJason1]

i do agree that t1 wants NA to win competitively, but the problem is that historically at this point we can just go into the seasons expecting disappointment because no NA teams ever stand out AND NA always loses first round on the big stage.

[@aDitchy2]

The reality is that pros are people too, if you need to practice a pick for LCS and you end up queud into a diamond/masters 1 trick chances are you will lose the match up a fair bit before your useful on the new pick. The idea that tyler has that everyone in NA is both dogshit but also inters is so rooted in his own shitty mentality, hes mediocre streamer who never was good enough to go pro so he flames pros for trying new things and having off games, if tyler has an int game there not a multi million person hate campaign, people just ignore him and go on. Pro like DL or meteos sprints it? click bait videos, reddit articles, esports articles and a whole public convo on whos career we should end for sprinting a solo q game.

[@1337awesomeness]

You are one of like 4 ex na pros with a voice I respect. And this vid/clip is one of those reasons why I respect you. Good shit.

[@dieklachst1675]

God score esports still exists they got out of touch a while ago

[@TALESCOFFEE]

Doesn't most of the league not try that hard tho? Wasn't Jojo also saying the same thing .. and how EG got rid of everyone cause they didn't try as hard as Jojo? I remember something about that and how our super servers just have no players cause pros aren't on there or on normal solo Q much.

[@scottieb6442]

EG got rid of everyone because they were selling the team after being awfully ran

[@LightzyOG]

NA culture is a joke, have not performed internationally in almost a decade and is now known as the lol retirement league. No new talent gets promoted that are hungry and willing to actually put in the time to improve, instead we import big name pros that are clearly not as good as they once were to keep LCS relevant. Of course not every import comes to NA to get the bag, players like Impact, Ssumday, and Bwipo to name a few actually still care/cared and put in effort but most of the imports I've seen over the last decade come to NA just to get the bag and not give a shit about results.

[@gamermaxeel4206]

a little streamer hehe

[@h0rrr]

Why does core troll Tyler in the first place lol

[@Crodas535]

Cause it’s funny, he’s bad, solo queue etc

[@bigP00FERS]

7 figures? lol

[@thinusburton2474]

But t1 isnt wrong The lcs is not competitive at all. Im sorry but ive stopped watching it when bjergsen left

[@Loopy25]

TO BE FAIR! Tyler1 does get sniped HEAVY by win traders 😅 and it’s so incredibly funny

[@dillonoickle5841]

i vividly remember playing league back when T1 came to power and banned etc you would get the odd leaver etc but almost no toxicity and when he started di8sco nunuing and had an int list of people if they were in his game he would int no matter what blatantly. legit for months half the games you would play would have people inting to try and be like T1. over time it got a little better but it never got back to how it was people and the game has been low key slightly more toxic year over year since that time and he was the kickoff point. sorry but i cant feel bad about people inting him ever he is a millionaire who had a big hand in ruining many of my and your games. welcome to reaping what you sow.

[@dizzlx4662]

League wasnt toxic before tyler 1 became popular. Now that is a hot take.

[@dillonoickle5841]

@@dizzlx4662 not as toxic indidnt sY not at all. But it unavoidably got worse as a result of him. And others after to be fair

[@in_vas_por8810]

He had and still has a HUGE influence over players, especially younger/immature ones which is probably 90% of the playerbase, but his fans don't want to admit he ints all the time ON STREAM at the drop of a dime. The hypocrisy is ridiculous. It's funny how he fails to realize how karma can hit when you least expect it. Like when you're trying to hit rank 1 so you want all your games to be perfect.

[@Meatlord69]

Why are you bringing up irrelevant stuff that happened in the year 2016?? What does that have to do with anything???? Maybe because you have no real argument?? 😀 Keep coping little boy.

[@maestrofrags3436]

Tyler1 being the child he is putting him aside...LoL is just a money grab for now the only thing that matters is the 99% of the soloqueue players that will either buy skins or watch Worlds a game or two if they are free that will give lol a good viewership and the can get sponsors...So LEC and LCS are just pointless they are not real contenders their views are really horrible and their gameplay is as bad as their servers... At this point why even contest if ur this bad at the game...Doubelift was defending his friend and now he didnt stand on buisness cuz hes a pu55i...Corejj is just like any other soloqueue player ive seen from silver to masters atleast on EU they just dont try...If u tell a bronze player why u not even trying to be a human ? He will tell u to relax we are copper if ask a silver to auto attack and proc his lethal tempo in an hour game cause he has 2 seconds proc he will tell u its junlge gap...Gold plat players will Ego on u and when u invite thel to actuualy find out if they are handless or not they will be laughing on voice chat and has nothing to say at all but on keyboard hes faker...Emrald and dimaond are 10 years stuck there and high elo EU are actual loosers since our server is most populated and we cant win worlds cause we suck at the game and we play for lane afk to scale 30 minutes never ff and loose anyways...So giefing games at this point is a game style NA and especially EUW Nemesis said it Tarzaned said it and Agurin is seeing it...The west in league is dead...Just let LCK LPL have their own pro play and make everything public on Western servers we dont desvere to even play ranked give us aram twisted treeline or afk farming minions since thats all we can do...The last 5 years the only Good players the west gave was Caps and Caps....Jankos used to be good now hes old and EU died with reckless ...perkz was terrible but he atleast tried and now hes benched...Tyler1 speaking about NA but to me EU is the joke of league 3 million players and we cant even be a real contender we cant even find a talent all we can see is the frenzhs unfunny banter on youtube and really weak gameplay...G2 cant even win against worst LPL teams won LEC why do we even play open these teams and mass ban players that dont try hard in ranked...Thats what will fix western gameplay and create talents...Either than that NA and EU should given Aram only especially EU make an AFK lane only farm simulator mode for them pls

[@antony1397]

Sir this is a Wendy's

[@ОрестЕфремов]

Its looks like a schizo got access to your account, but after carefully reading and processing your text I actually agree with you. League still has huge numbers, but the overall quality is beyond dogshit

[@nguyenkhanhhung91]

Let all the people who has never give up attitude play together. Its easy. Let people who has common sense and realistic play together. Its a simple thing to do. Not everyone wants to spend time playing the game when they know its unplayable. Remember 40% of the game are unwinable

[@lbbmogley1527]

If we all want to win the game we'll find ways to win. There are 50 min games played just to win n ya do. Heck the stats play the game to your fullest potential.

[@nguyenkhanhhung91]

@@lbbmogley1527 Even the best challenger with a "never give up" attitude will end up 60 plus % win rate. That's the fullest potential for everyone.

[@FlamingBugle]

There is no argument for supporting people to have a give up mentality. Even for a video game. Even if you play League as a pass time off work. You can, over time, find more enjoyment in it from not surrendering. Instead of it being something you do out of boredom or frustration, it could be something you look forward to and actively enjoy. I know because that's what happens to people that take the time to learn something. Even if that something doesn't mean a whole lot to them in the beginning. Even for League, which is an incredibly tough game.

[@nguyenkhanhhung91]

@@FlamingBugle what are you talking about? There is an option in game for you to surrender. Doesnt it support the need to surrender sometimes. Nonsense

[@nguyenkhanhhung91]

@@FlamingBugle also, the reason why people playing games is to be entertained. Having to play when your teammate feeds, trolls or sucks make it like hell. If i want to be stoic like you then i do it in real life, lmao. Why do you even play game?

[@Dylamos]

Cryler1 back at it again crying about shit because shit don't go his way.

[@tannior392]

I mean Tyler1 has a point and is right. Many other big names in the scene agree, such as DL here and Nemesis.

[@Dylamos]

@@tannior392 He's also a massive hypocrit.

[@antony1397]

@@DylamosHe's also the face of league, so your crying into the void here lmao

[@Dylamos]

@@antony1397 Ain't nobody cries as much as Cryler1. Especially so since that's his void.

[@lbbmogley1527]

Talk more when NA pros actually give a heck about winning. I don't know if you're na but we're all sick of pros just not caring anymore 🤷‍♂️

[@chatubarecords]

Ah yes, the pro scene is dead because players don’t tell each other to get cancer every other game. Very smart take from Tyler.

[@schnitzelfritzel7198]

what kind of thought on his take is this? He clerly means he rather them say stuff like that to show they have passion for the game and not grief instead of just run it down and not care in solo q.

[@nauti31210]

@@schnitzelfritzel7198 this^

[@apheligoat]

@@schnitzelfritzel7198the guy who made the comment couldn’t tell cereal from soup apart

[@drcheesecak3]

tell me you didnt watch the video without telling me you didnt watch the video. get new eyes, yours clearly are damaged

[@isoreii5062]

Doublelift constantly has bad takes lol

[@lbbmogley1527]

Double stuck to his guns tho. NA pros are dogshite and will stand to be until they get their heads out of their egos.

[@buschcory]

Tyler is a jerkface, hard to get past people being so aggressive about their opinion and deliver a grounded response to that. I like you coming back to adjust your position, that is noble, but you don't have to give Tyler any room on this because he's just a trash talker.

[@drcheesecak3]

and doublelift isnt a trash talker? do you actually watch any of DLs streams? lmfao

[@buschcory]

@@drcheesecak3 nope, I don't watch them. Maybe double lift is a jerkface too I dunno? I just commented this after watching the vid and being surprised by the tone of Tyler. Didn't mean to imply DL was some lord above, my mistake =)

[@danielchu2363]

first B)

[@Crodas535]

Esports so dead, they don’t report LCS or LEC, they report Tyler1 flaming people