Please reshaft them to test the heads, love the vids man!
@callebakke-erichsen500711 ай бұрын
So, the shaft is a joke, would be interesting to see how the heads would perform on same shaft as the original P770.
@firemedic105ns11 ай бұрын
I agree. Head to head comparison to be sure.
@vertstang12311 ай бұрын
Exactly what I was thinking...bad comparison.
@flyingbullseye11 ай бұрын
Beat me to it. Would be an interesting comparison
@Supra_Rankin11 ай бұрын
It's a rip off club it's only made to look like the real thing weighting and tech will have nothing from the real thing
@callebakke-erichsen500711 ай бұрын
@@Supra_Rankin sure, but how much is really in the tech? Speed pocket speed foam air. etc etc.
@Trouty500011 ай бұрын
No need to say that you got scammed. As a pro golfer you can tell from the pictures they were fakes, just say you bought the fakes to make a video comparing the fakes to the real ones.
@M440iUK11 ай бұрын
My Mum told me that waggling my shaft like that would make me go blind! Funniest thing I've seen on a golf channel ever.
@isthereanavailable11 ай бұрын
That pitching wedge flopping around like that reminds of the gforce or lagshot swing trainers. LOL
@BebertAharonsonАй бұрын
I bought the Lalage Beaumont Fontyn in medium tan last week at kislux and since receiving it I have been using it and neglecting my designer collection (honeymoon period maybe) , but I was really impressed with the quality and timing, right down to how they used it. Will wear it. I wish they would make this bag in a variety of pinks (i. e. sakura pink). There are actually many options to choose from.
@YohandraPoellnitzАй бұрын
I use my kislux as a work bag and have had no issues at all. Itâs a comfortable bag, fits a good amount and hadnât lost its shape. With that being said, I also take care of all my bags and donât carry a water bottle, pens, keys or anything that can damage the interio.
@captainsnake740611 ай бұрын
wonder what the results would be If you changed the shafts out. The head seem to be performing.
@X0000037011 ай бұрын
Years ago, more like decades ago, I bought a "knock off" driver. I don't remember what brand, but the claimed titanium head passed the magnet test, which was nice, but the shaft was like a kid's fishing rod in flex. The finish markings were poor, and I don't remember what I did with this experiment in knock-off clubs. A failed test and lesson learned. Well sort of, I did buy a set of Takoma irons and they are pretty good. So much so I'm considering taking a chance on their driver and 3 wood...
@mksmith71310 ай бұрын
Takomo irons are supposed to be premium, direct to consumer clubs?
@AncarMolleur2 ай бұрын
kislux I love you so much and watching your videos makes my day brighter
@mattrollman1311 ай бұрын
You should put regular golf shafts and see how they perform
@bobber2211 ай бұрын
A guy I know bought a complete set of Ping irons, woods and bag while he was in China. When he went to pick them up the guy said that would be a total of $210.00! The guy said “Are you sure”? The Chinese guy said “Sorry, is that too much?” The head flew off the three wood into a pond the first time he hit it.
@michaelchingman737611 ай бұрын
I about fell out my seat when he was wiggling back and forth 😂😂😂
@pastorjason433711 ай бұрын
My second set of clubs was a Callaway clone of the Hawkeye's I think. It was 20 odd years ago and I wasn't a good enough player to tell any difference in those days. These are something to see, the huge waggle in that PW was hillarious.
@TokiMadeira4 ай бұрын
HEY kislux !! I have been watching you for years and im so proud of where you have made it! I love you so much! Also thanks for making my day
@Lovetheducks11 ай бұрын
I’m curious how they would perform with a decent shaft in them and not ones it comes with. I’d never buy a knockoff but I am very curious.
@donkee911 ай бұрын
How is wish legal
@firemedic105ns11 ай бұрын
The legal controls in China and other parts of Asia are not the same as in most parts of the world. Odds are the companies just have to say that buyers should know they are knock offs and voila, their likely off the hook
@AntonaLewandoski4 ай бұрын
you’re literally my comfort person i love you kislux !
@donnawhitfield682011 ай бұрын
Give the iron head covers to Chris to give to Dave Harrison. Could the heads be 2nd’s or TaylorMade rejects that didn’t meet the TaylorMade standards?
@julia-619511 ай бұрын
No. They're counterfeits sold to people who don't know better.
@davidrobbins193611 ай бұрын
Would be interesting to see.. if you stuck a simple standard shaft in there like a dynamic gold or something... I bet the performance would VERY similar.. SCARY actually.
@kellycoates502711 ай бұрын
Put those heads in a comparable shaft (steele stiff) flex and see how they compare then.
@larryd435211 ай бұрын
Very interesting! Those "Wish" clubs, and especially the graphite shafts version, I don't think they would last very long for a younger golfer. Maybe for a Senior Golfer, like myself, might be able to use them without any problems. At 66 years old, I don't swing anywhere near as I did in my 30's up until my early 50's. I change changed my shafts from Tour Stiff Rifle shafts to Regular steel shafts. They fit my swing speed , and with my lower back, left knee & elbow problems, I need something a bit easier to swing. My 8 iron only carries about 110 yards, but with an easier, more controlled swing, I am a bit more accurate. I will stick to my current clubs...I still love my Nike irons, and once and a while I pull out my 1960's vintage Wilson Staff Fluid Feel irons! They are still fun to play!
@AlejanMacazaga4 ай бұрын
I love you so much! I recently just found your kislux and i’m in love!! Your videos are so fun and you energy is just MWAH! keep living your life
@SuhpremePizza7 ай бұрын
Hi James, does the counterfeit irons still have serial numbers lasered on the hosel or are they absent?
@shawntaylor744211 ай бұрын
I would imagine those irons are about the same quality as a pkg set. I had some as a kid and kept caving the face on my 3i. Cheap alloy instead of stainless steel
@gabstevens111 ай бұрын
How about fitting a regular set of steel shafts on them, like a true temper? Would that make it a much better set?
@andyfrizzell435211 ай бұрын
Instinctively I would guess knock offs with steel shafts would be more consistent. It's only fairly recently graphite iron shafts have become something really worth considering. They aremore complex to make and steel has the chance of at least a basic model from a real manufacturer
@ianburton922311 ай бұрын
I think there may be many golfers, like myself, that do not have the experience and skills to tell the difference between results from inconsistent swings or inconsistent clubs. From the images the "stiff graphite" shafts on the cheap imitation clubs look floppier than my senior graphite shafts, but customers will not detect that before purchase. It basically goes to fundamental principles of "buyer beware". If it appears to good to be true, then do not buy. You remarked that the stiff graphite shafts in the imitation set normally sell for £150 each. That alone should be ringing alarm bells. But people do love a "bargain".
@2222skinny11 ай бұрын
Are they the original p770
@richardprosser502611 ай бұрын
I’ve had a 12 year break from golf and so far have only played on range. I purchased the Taylormade 790 phantoms 4to sw ( 8clubs). For 256.00 complete with kbs 8.0 stiff shafts. They feel really good to me. I asked the local pro to hit my 4 iron on the trackman. He hit it nearly 200 into wind slightly. He did comment it didn’t go as far as his club but he couldn’t tell just by looking that it’s a fake. Bearing in mind these clubs retail at 1300.00. Purchased from Ali express a few months ago.
@samuelknott558611 ай бұрын
Yes the real ones retail at £1300, makes me laugh when people buy fake then say these are ££££££ in the shops. No shit that’s because the two things aren’t even comparable one is real.
@richardprosser502611 ай бұрын
@@samuelknott5586 close enough for me mush. I certainly ain’t complaining
@richardprosser502611 ай бұрын
@@samuelknott5586 close enough for me mush. I certainly ain’t complaining
@sucitilll11 ай бұрын
Those are the real set of p-770 irons but, they are an older version.
@edwardbrown624511 ай бұрын
Very different .. it’s sad to spend that much money for knock offs with no consistency
@rockrugbyref11 ай бұрын
The Wish set are based on the 1st gen P-770. The 'tungsten' logo looks more similar to the 1st gen. These could very well be overstock old iron heads, or factory defects.
@JamesRobinsonGolf11 ай бұрын
100% they aren’t.
@travissnyder155311 ай бұрын
@@JamesRobinsonGolfthose are the 2019 versions. You should do a comparison with the 2019’s in looks. And maybe change the shafts out to kbs or dynamic golds. I bought a set of 2023’s and hated them. They just looked to dull and were very inconsistent. I went back to my Ben hogans.
@dougiekara11 ай бұрын
The equipment is getting crazy prices, which is putting off new people to the game. Golf courses closing, 300 members paying £1500 a year or 550 members paying £750 and stay in business?????
@unclejim233011 ай бұрын
Hard to control a whip, put some good shafts on them and see what happens.
@mrgc100111 ай бұрын
I've seen more structural integrity in a plate of blancmange than in those shafts !
@harryfleming962211 ай бұрын
Hi James don't know if it's you our if I am getting scammed got sent email saying won prize asking me to pay shipping costs for 50 dollars I entered your videos on the eleven hybrids can you please confirm it's you
@ConfusedCurling-ob5lo11 ай бұрын
Hi James! Never used wish and probably never will. I’m not paranoid but I won’t even buy off eBay or the likes in case these type of things slip through the net . If it can be faked it will be !
@tomlyckowski670311 ай бұрын
The heads look like the old version vs the new version. The shafts might not be up to specs though.
@barrymuller513111 ай бұрын
I hear you say “a little draw in there” but shot tracer usually doesn’t really show draw. Usually shows a little fade.
@DMKFACTOR11 ай бұрын
Sometimes that’s the angel of the camera. If you look the angle is never directly behind James more off to the side which affects the shot tracer apps.
@JamesRobinsonGolf11 ай бұрын
It’s usually I’m trying to hit a little draw and end up hitting a fade lol but if I try not to hit a draw I hit a huge block 😂😂😂
@barrymuller513111 ай бұрын
@@JamesRobinsonGolf You play well
@milton35911 ай бұрын
I've never bought a club in store or on internet that didn't have an ID label with several numbers lot numbers etc. I didn't see anything like that on those.
@samuelknott558611 ай бұрын
The fakes do have serial numbers etched or lazer printed on like the real thing.
@gordonbragg81011 ай бұрын
Ive got a tietliest 54 degree wedge. I bought from Lazada. I knew it was fake. ( Just curious)1240 baht. Im a decent golfer. Been down to 4 handicap. I cant argue with it. Very consistent in length. 94 yards. Nicely weighted. I have 2 genuine. And it dont scuff golf balls up. Im obviously one of the lucky ones.
@Thealmostaveragegolfer11 ай бұрын
Surely they shouldn’t be allowed to sell stuff that isn’t real, it’s not fair on the brand or the person buying them
@samuelknott558611 ай бұрын
Lmao. Anyone who goes on wish and buys anything with a brand name knows it is fake, they sell nothing real which is why it’s so cheap
@SharonGeorge-gu8lz11 ай бұрын
We ordered a set of these same clubs but heads only at a much better price. We then installed a set of new KBS 115 gr. R-flex shafts which had been pulled from another set of irons. After testing them we put them out with other rental sets. Being new looking Taylor Made 790 they were rented often by people looking to rent clubs for a round of golf. Thus far we have not received a single complaint about the clubs not performing as expected and one person who travels here on business rents them every time he comes to the club to play and he shoots in the mid to upper 70's which he says is the same as he shoots back home with his set of Titleist clubs. As for your video, you often will say after hitting clubs outside you will need to get them inside to really test them. But on this set after not seeing a great deal of difference between sets indoors you said you needed to get back outdoors to test. Should this lead us to believe that indoor testing may not be all it's cracked up to be?
@ChukkieB0Y10 ай бұрын
Well said.. I love James but his bias is showing. Also these are not the 2024 p770s as clearly look more like 2020 p770. Issue is the shaft and he says that in the beginning
@slicerjohn189711 ай бұрын
They are more like the flex shaft training aids.
@stephenfowler411511 ай бұрын
Is there any simple way to authenticate a set of clubs?
@samuelknott558611 ай бұрын
Yeah look at them next to a real one.
@stephenfowler411511 ай бұрын
@@samuelknott5586 circular reasoning Doesn't answer the question
@intarat35514 ай бұрын
You should try to fit with real iron shaft and get the result to your channel again.
@MembersMclees4 ай бұрын
All dat kislux bags sssssoooooooo gorgeous
@CharlotteK200811 ай бұрын
For average joe not wanting to pay £1200 plus for a set these look pretty damn good
@boatbuilder78111 ай бұрын
Got burned once, always be aware who you are buying from. If they won’t take returns don’t go there!
@ericjencson948911 ай бұрын
They make wiggly shafts like that as a training aid
@royclose94611 ай бұрын
Gotta watch what you are buying I always buy from a pga pro or shop 😊
@guywhittern280011 ай бұрын
Is there anyone who would not think these were fake before they bought them?! I don’t get it
@rockrugbyref11 ай бұрын
That description of the clubs from Wish, "...Half Knife Back High Fault Tolerant Long Range Iron Set." Wow. Knife instead of "Blade" maybe. "High Fault Tolerant" maybe is "game improvement." "Long Range" maybe is "Distance." That's a very bad translation from English to Mandarian or Cantonese.
@TheNy11511 ай бұрын
there's a famous saying "buy cheap, buy twice"
@grahampatching271711 ай бұрын
Thanks James this is what the world has to be aware of the rip-off merchants in the world the ones that are trying to make a quick buck on the people that are not sure, so cheers to you my friend and I'll see you next time.
@colinmurphy829811 ай бұрын
If you’re looking golf clubs at the right price golfbidder or clubs for cash I hate people getting ripped off
@AzizzKhirallah3 ай бұрын
En el momento en que vi el bolso kislux , supe que tenía que tenerlo.
@Pud5611 ай бұрын
Hope you reported the supplier to Trading Standards and TM, OEM’s do masses of R&D, some of the direct to consumer clubs are close to the clone mark, those Sub70 prototypes are an example, but clearly they meet copyright qualifications, these are deliberate fraud of both the buyer and the OEM.
@BrandonGavin_EDC6 ай бұрын
Nothing they can do about it, they have no power in China.
@wajopek267911 ай бұрын
Try bending the lie angle and see if they snap. …or at least prove they are forged.
@yongminkim654411 ай бұрын
Like another comment, it's a bargain if you consider them as a full set of lag-shots/ gforce swing trainer irons. Might end up with a super smooth tempo swing! 😅 To be fair I'd a full set of swing trainers! 🤔
@marceporcello282511 ай бұрын
You get what you pay for. One should know that knock offs are terrible and can not compare to the original design
@michchadwick6811 ай бұрын
Bloody hell,not a club I would feel safe hitting shots with ha ha ha would be my luck the club head would shoot off&go further than the ball 😂 you deserve a award for danger risk james playing with them 😨
@craigforecast916811 ай бұрын
Auto flex wedge lol 😂
@Simon-iv3gq4 ай бұрын
James - re-shaft the fake and this way the two comparison can really be compared properly. Right now it is lob-sided Dude!
@christopherchavez615511 ай бұрын
Thanks
@robertgray175611 ай бұрын
A third of the normal price and buying from a dodgy site should really be the tell tale signs of dodgy clubs for 99% of golfers. Interesting vlog though.
@matthewjarvis327611 ай бұрын
Is it more like you brought these clubs from Wish expecting to be scammed rather than buying the clubs to be what advertised. Its not like you haven’t done this kinda video before. Its great that you highlight what to expect from buying clubs from these types of websites but be truthful on how you title your videos.
@djmitch111 ай бұрын
those shafts! lol!
@deancollison509311 ай бұрын
That golf shaft identifies as fly rod
@ronmullard571811 ай бұрын
IMO I would go for a set of used genuine clubs ...certainly will never buy new genuine with todays ridiculous prices.....
@davegregory280911 ай бұрын
They look a bit bendy 😂
@whf102311 ай бұрын
They flex like the Lag Shot lol
@JT-xs4br11 ай бұрын
I think “half knife back, high fault tolerant long range iron” is a dead giveaway away that they are fake😜
@texmex69711 ай бұрын
I pity the guy who buys them 2nd hand in the future
@robertott992510 ай бұрын
I wish there were fake LH clubs more availble
@milton35911 ай бұрын
Maybe that's on of those lag training clubs
@JustinW7111 ай бұрын
If I was on a budget, I would shop for a good used set instead of knowingly buying a replica set.
@JamesRobinsonGolf11 ай бұрын
100% buddy. My worry would be the guys who think/hope these are genuine
@davidmcdermott341511 ай бұрын
Dying to see this! I have a fake Ventus TR Black 6S in my driver that was better than my stock shaft. And how do the Wish clubs compare to Costco?
@dan.promedio11 ай бұрын
That doesn't suprise me. There is so little quality control in the stock shafts that they are practically knockoffs of themselves lol
@paulstephenson581511 ай бұрын
Who buys stuff from Wish thinking they’re real 😂 , embarrassing
@JamesRobinsonGolf11 ай бұрын
For who?
@il51653 ай бұрын
@@JamesRobinsonGolffor you, dunce
@onlychangeiscertain11 ай бұрын
The design is not similar at all …
@milton35911 ай бұрын
Bet those heads are chrome plated
@josey777cat11 ай бұрын
Just change the shaft.
@JamesRobinsonGolf11 ай бұрын
😂
@whocares398611 ай бұрын
@@JamesRobinsonGolf It would be interesting to see if the head is as bad as the shafts.
@mengtastic833711 ай бұрын
Wish likes more waggle than compression. LOL
@grinnders11 ай бұрын
You would have only been ‘scammed’ if the fake clubs you bought were actually real. 😂 It’s Wish after all - not Real 😊
@tedrstedrs669011 ай бұрын
I wonder if the mfrs are making some money on these? Like gucci never went after the fake gucci bags becasue they were making some money somehow on them.
@donwalton632511 ай бұрын
Have you told TaylorMade?
@MrAshtute11 ай бұрын
The fact they were on wish meant they were fake to begin with
@JamesRobinsonGolf11 ай бұрын
Tell that a 65 year old buying in good faith
@finnguzz644811 ай бұрын
Shake it til you break it 🥺
@johnnewcomb51625 ай бұрын
The real and the fake ones are both made in China, it can be hard to tell sometimes.
@BacktoGood111 ай бұрын
Wow.
@tommiethatcher726511 ай бұрын
Definitely stay away from wish
@JamesRobinsonGolf11 ай бұрын
100% TT. Did you enter the eleven giveaway btw? (This isn’t one of the scammers it’s me). Don’t worry. I’m not asking you for postage 😂
@mayathebutterfly8 ай бұрын
You didn't get scam you trying to mislead the public. Why would you buy graphite shaft and not a steel stiff shaft? Video is a disgrace. I will do a video and let us see if this hapens 🤔🤔🤔
@SteveFromStockport11 ай бұрын
Clearly counterfeit, but try to seek legal redress against a Chinese company. Good luck!
@thetangoman11 ай бұрын
How did you get scammed? You knew they were fake before you bought them.... scammed means something that happens without you knowing.... content for the sake of putting up a daily video...
@bighaus22411 ай бұрын
I hate your clickbaity titles. Come on dude. You don't need to do it anymore.
@JamesRobinsonGolf11 ай бұрын
Explain to me what’s clickbait about this title… it literally does what it says on the can. I feel like you’re complaining about something you don’t understand and have just heard banded around.
@bighaus22411 ай бұрын
@@JamesRobinsonGolf "scammed" lmao. You can't get scammed on wish when everyone and their brother knows it's fake Chinese crap. Scammed implies you were lied to or dupes. When buying on wish you are knowingly purchasing fake items.
@JamesRobinsonGolf11 ай бұрын
If my dad bought these irons or my mates grandad bought these irons they would have no idea they were fake… so it would be a SCAM… I appreciate you watching and your feedback. But you’re massively clutching at straws with this title mate. In the past yeah I’ll give you a few baity ones. But that’s also how the game works. Anchorman 😂👍🏼
@DMKFACTOR11 ай бұрын
My granny use to say if it looks to good to be true, believe it!
@MolinaFarler2 ай бұрын
you’re literally my comfort person i love you kislux !