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[@rothery2]

Despite their "No returns" policy, you can return it due to Amazon A-Z guarantee which as a seller on amazon, they've agreed to abide by.

[@madezra64]

True, but Amazon has been known, and still is, too reject this policy outright. Kind of depends on who you're dealing with at Amazont that day :/

[@rothery2]

@@madezra64 I've never had an issue. It's always been through the automated return process for me. Had one where they told me to keep the item and refunded my money for it not matching the description.

[@robsdeviceunknown]

I sell on Amazon and can 100% guarantee that you can return this. AND SHOULD!.

[@StrengthOfADragon13]

@@wesleymantooth8016 Historically amazon has footed the bill for smaller sellers because it isn't worth their time to fight with smaller sellers. Returns are rare so amazon doesn't really mind

[@scotgarcia9255]

@@wesleymantooth8016 racist much?

[@TachyKusanagi]

Funny that the seller says "no returns accepted!" although it is a "FBA" product. Amazon will definitely accept a return for this, and if the seller marked the ASIN as "non-returnable" then you'd still get a refund by Amazon if you said "it's not what I expected". That's part of what a FBA-seller has to agree to. EDIT: Should add, if the seller also sells the product via a Marketplace-listing (sold and shipped by the seller with the frankly unspeakable name) then a potential buyer would have a much harder way to fight this purchase. Though, most customer-service agents will still file a buyers protection claim for such things and it might go through. But yeah, at least Jay bought via FBA.

[@Just_Pele]

YEP! Sounds like a great opportunity to buy the boxes until you get something and return all the rest.

[@TachyKusanagi]

@@Just_Pele Seeing these kind of "loot-boxes" sold via FBA is very rare. Might be only a thing right now due to the current situation in the world, but I wholly expect this seller to primarily sell them via Marketplace only.

[@TachyKusanagi]

@Billy White Jr. That message is normal when a customer gives negative feedback and mentions that something was wrong with shipping or returns. In that case, Amazon strikes through the feedback (making it not affect the seller's score) as shipping and returns are handled by Amazon in case of FBA.

[@DylanMcCullough]

Amazon products sold in the Marketplace, also known as Fulfilled by Merchant, must still adhere to all Amazon return policies, no exceptions. There is no product in the electronics category that can be excluded from the Amazon return policy. Returns on ALL objects are allowed within 30 days. Marketplace seller only has the option to claw back return shipping charges.

[@sapphireghost2169]

@@Just_Pele problem is the algorithm of Amazon where if you have been getting so much concession, it will make it harder to get refunds or potentially close your account entirely.

[@putzthewondersloth]

I showed this video to a guy I know in Amazon's customer service and he recommended sending it back. He pointed out that despite the bullet point that says they don't allow for returns, a bit below the "Add to cart" and "Buy now" buttons there is a line that says "Return policy: Eligible for return, refund, or replacement." The fact that it was missing that screw, he'd arrange a return due to it missing parts. Other reasons for a return could be defects or damage. Likely you could return it for any reason you want, though there may be a return shipping cost deducted based on the reason for the return. The best part is that if it gets returned and refunded, the seller doesn't get paid for the sale.

[@raven4k998]

I could afford to loose 110 dollar but I won't cause I can put that to better things

[@ralphm6901]

I should have done that with a thing I "bought". The order was for three separate items, one of which was supposedly a two-pack of charger pads for a Fossil Watch. What actually arrived was a 2-pack of Caribbean Spices. I think I was out about $12 so not a huge deal. I did try leaving a low rating and a comment about what I got, but Amazon didn't allow it for some stupid reason.

[@hewster1]

@@raven4k998 Which is the definition of, you can't afford to lose it if you need it for your other things.

[@Tijuanabill]

There is no such thing as a non-refundable item on Amazon. They will refund you themselves, and kick the seller off the platform, if it comes to that.

[@mrcryptozoic817]

@@Tijuanabill And there's always the option to dispute the charge through your credit card

[@SiRTazman1834]

Jay, you need to ask Amazon to audit this seller to see if they even have any current generation graphics cars being sent out.

[@ignoto82dr]

well, if you get the right guy amazon work fast with audit and closing shops. I managed to have a shop close for "suspicious of fraud". Basically I was buying an xmas present for my brother (an epson xp2100) that was underprice. Like it was 70€ instead of 90, but since the xp2200 was behind the corner I said "well, they are cleaning the surplus". Make the payment and in like less than a minute I got 3 email from amazon: the second one was "we got your money, but the product was out of order by the time you clicked "buy". you'll get your money back in 7 days". There were 10 printers ready to go. the first one was about "we tried to get yor money but there wasnt enough on your card. No charge was applied on your card": I did just recharge 80€ just to be sure the third one was from the vendor that said "there was a problem with your order cal me at this number". It was an american phone number, land line. I'm italian. contacted the vendor with amazon self help. sended him screenshots of the payments, of the mails, ecc. He erased the chat history in ten minutes flat. called an operator on amazon with their chat. He recovered the erased chat and screenshot. he did see that a lo tof people got the same problem. He did speed up the refund (three days), put an audit call on the shop and suspended ASAP the shop on "suspicious of multiple frauds". Basically this f**ker had a bot clean the disponibility queque each time someone tried to buy something (so your transaction was canceled), then send a fake amazon message that there wasnt money from another account with a name in ascii characters that resembled the word amazon (so you tough it was your fault) and a message in his shop name to contact him and sell you his things without amazon as intermediary. And of course without warranties nor certain that you WOULD get the things, the cheapest, non trackable, non inusred shipping, etc etc. I dont think he'll ever manage to open another shop in amazon from all the blacklists he will have got on his name XD

[@HumbertoPatricio]

​@@ignoto82drWOWW... This MFs are developing advanced techniques to scam people!! Thank you for sharing your experience !!

[@Fr33dan]

I once had a crashing problem that was completely random, I eventually figured out it was the HDMI cable to my TV (that was disabled as a monitor). Never underestimate the power of a bad cable.

[@boogerfromthatmovie4257]

i have mine setup the same way. ill just extend the displays if i want to use my t.v. if i start to get crashing ill keep this in mind lol

[@berniecolley5524]

Indeed , my monitor refused to display anything , checked all the bits , changed the monitor , changed the graphic card , reseated the memory , still nothing . Brand new build and I'm thinking cpu or board . Didn't occur to me to change the hdmi cable until a day later , and this was a brand new cable too that failed between boot up

[@JasonW.]

@@berniecolley5524 New is Never Ever Worked Once/if it works, it is no longer new.

[@darthwiizius]

@@JasonW. That's only if you buy cheap, reputable suppliers test their cables after construction. The last cable I had fail was a Scart cable just to put into context how long it is since I have had a dodgy interconnect, and my system uses many many interconnects.

[@berniecolley5524]

@@darthwiizius came with the new monitor i got

[@tonyg8471]

Jay, I saw this crap on Amazon two days ago while I was in process of buying parts for a new build. This was such an obvious scam, I spent time to read the whole product description. I just had to see what some idiot was going to buy. I do realize you bought this as a KZbin content creator, not as a consumer like myself. I laughed out loud when you pulled that toxic POS out of the box 😂. Thanks for doing this.

[@scalpingsnake]

I can't believe he put it near that nice build 🤢

[@gabeghiby6935]

Bro'...if I may respectfully ask you...why do you buy parts for a new build from Amazon of all places..??.. what happened to Newegg or the other providers..??.. are they undermined already by almighty Amazon..??.. don't we - consumers generally speaking - help Amazon put out of the business the other guys..??.. and implicitly help Bezos get his billions easier, only so in turn we can complain that the 1% of the elites want to rule the world..??.. For the record, I'm building gaming rigs since '92 and I never once bought a part from Amazon...in my case Newegg helped me build my business so I'll stick with them... so why buy computer parts from Amazon..??.. I mean I can understand buying books - that's how they started back in the days - or buying any other crap, but why buy computer parts from Amazon..??.. they are not a specialized supplier, provider of computer parts..??.. don't get me wrong, but I just don't get it... honestly I never - not even once - purchased a computer part from Amazon... so I genuinely wonder why others would..??..

[@MrGts92]

@@gabeghiby6935 have you been living under a rock?

[@scalpingsnake]

​@@gabeghiby6935 I bought most of my parts from Amazon in 2020 when I built mine. Honestly every time I do I think about how Bezos is getting my money but in reality I have learned to ignore it. I drink coke, eat at McDonalds and use amazon, if I started thinking about if everything I am doing is lining billionaire's pockets I would go crazy and frankly I am too insignificant to pretend like I will make a difference anyway. I am personally in the UK so I wouldn't use Newegg but we do have other places. I am just used to Amazon plus I have prime (which to me is actually quite good as I use it often to watch prime shows/movies). But didn't Newegg have some controversy recently? Specifically with returns? Which honestly is another reason I like Amazon as their returns policy is seemingly really great from my perspective. Not saying all others are bad but can you blame me with sticking to what works? I have a low threshold for stress. Building my first build PC was extremely stressful, even though every where I looked they said it was easier than it looked. It took me a long long time to get the confidence to finally buy and build. Amazon is just an extra thing I don't need to worry about.

[@tonyg8471]

@@gabeghiby6935 I'm an old guy, and I have also been building PCs since the early 90s. Remember Cyrix CPUs? As for the political angle you make reference to: I am all too aware of Amazon's woke cancer and leftist politics. No one is more against that garbage than I am. I buy from Amazon because their market presence is too strong to ignore when I actually have to live within my budget. And as much as I hate to say anything positive about Amazon, I find pricing on all types of products (including tech) is very competitive and their product return policies are generally consumer friendly. As for Newegg (and their predecessors): I also shop and buy from Newegg---including $1000 on this current build. I imagine every tech shopper does business with Newegg? But as GN recently highlighted, their business practices are far from angelic. Very far. I like the fact some consumers refuse to buy from Amazon, and will fight to defend their right to make that free-market decision. My own free-market purchasing decisions are no less important.

[@babathedwarf]

I just realised a lot of countries (especially in Europe) are starting to forbid lootboxes in games as they are compared to lottery but the same logic does not applies on cards deck boosters while the concept is very similar. (you are guarantee to obtain something but it is random so if you want a specific one it could cost a lot of money).

[@Juani_lol]

Claw machines should be illegal

[@StefanVeenstra]

You mean like the yu-gi-oh craze 16 years ago? Used to get for 5 bucks a pack, 9 cards, 5 low tier ones, 3 high tier with a possibility of 1 rare card. My brother got all the useful rare ones and I burned through what little savings I had to get some upperhand on him. Expensive lesson, but it taught me to be more patient and only buy into certainty, not probability. Only thing left for those cards is waiting for them to become vintage.

[@FeArhsma21]

@@Juani_lol WOW Reality, What A Concept. Love that comment LMAO!

[@Juani_lol]

@@FeArhsma21 probably lost more money than I can count on claw machines

[@GERRaze]

It's not "a similar concept", it's the concept of gambling. Everything with a chance to win is gambling, so lottery, loot boxes and card booster packs are all gambling. It's all about the "big prize" that makes you throw out money for shit, even when you always lose more than you win.

[@CobiaCrossink]

Phil laughing and losing it makes these videos so much better.

[@DescartesRenegade]

Really, I find his laugh unbearable

[@CobiaCrossink]

@@DescartesRenegade To each their own.

[@osamu_90]

I'm surprised they even sent a PC component, I expected a box full of cicada molts or something.

[@raven4k998]

what ever reason would you need a usb Random number generator? can't your pc do that with software using the cpu?

[@minirock000]

That's funny, I was thinking something people find almost as useless, an actual book.

[@kuro19382]

@@raven4k998 RNG by your computer is not truly random, a hardware RNG is supposed to offer truly random numbers. There are a few applications where this might be needed, mostly scientific research afaik. Anyway, I doubt what they are selling really does that lol

[@MrMarinus18]

There are laws though. They can't outright lie or at least they need to be careful with that as they could get charged with false advertisement. So companies use vague wording and have use big print on some parts and small print on others to try to mislead consumers without outright lying. The most important thing to keep in mind is that companies are organizations created to make money. So if you are buying a product of theirs you are giving them more money than they used to give you what you purchased. So if you get something that's worth more than what you paid for then you need to assume they screwed over many times that number of customers by giving them less than what they paid for to make profit.

[@oceanbytez847]

@@kuro19382 Even hardware based RNG has it's limit. The truest RNG that exists comes from a tech company that films a wall of 200+ lavalamps and develops numbers based on the of the blobs. The lamps areexposed to sunlight as well so the summer/winter change of daylight hours also factors in and keeps it as random as reasonably possible.

[@andrewfrey6960]

I cant imagine amazon is okay with this kind of thing. Their system should remove listings that contain win, random, and mystery.

[@QoraxAudio]

Yes especially the keyword win, as in WINdows 11 😂😂

[@jeffreyphillips9428]

It is techinically allowed if they list all of the items that can be won. This one clearly doesn't.

[@warmbeer2]

Well they're okay with slavery so who knows?

[@MrLince-hr4of]

why ? amazon is not responsible for the stupidness of people 🤣🤣 lottery or casino is also not illegal😂

[@connorjohnson4402]

Yea i would bet good money that somewhere in tiny font and in legalese on a terms and conditions page or user agreement when you signed in or checked the box that probably makes it so that they don't have to worry about it or think about it or even be adjacent to it and its all on you they are just fulfilling a service its up to you to choose something. Im sure there's also a clause pledging that your would and the souls of your kin shall be enslaved and devoured buy a cosmic eldritch horror who in turn provides them with continual wealth.

[@keeblar209]

Thank you for putting your time into making this video for the public.. Scammers need to understand that they just need to get a real 9-5

[@chrcoluk]

The sellers name is the red flag, there is so many of them now on Amazon I have got to the point where I will only buy from Amazon direct now.

[@dlamborn]

Thank you for this video. I see scams all the time, most of which I don't understand how people could fall for "insert scam here". This one helped me understand it a little bit. While hunting for a GPU in February 2022 I found an amazon listing similar to this. I was tempted, and I now understand how scams prey on peoples desperation.

[@QuantumConundrum]

Like you said, scams always target desperation. I just want to add, sometimes that's desperation for love, friendship, luck, career, etc. Not just a desperation for a GPU lol. Easy to say "if it's too good to be true..." but a lot harder to say "what am I really looking for with this...". Some introspection never hurts.

[@sillu135]

Your participation in that mystery box was so "brave" and "courageous"

[@adamtajhassam9188]

the video label is wrong is a gamble not a scam.

[@legoboy-ox2kx]

The reason the seller has a bunch of random stuff is because Amazon restricts new sellers based on category and so the seller was trying to get approved in certain categories.

[@qllusion]

I agree Jay that Amazon does have an obligation as well in preventing unethical business practices on their platform. But consumers also have an obligation to realize, irrespective of how much they really want something to be true, that you can not get something for nothing. Even if this was a legitimate raffle (or "Adventure About Courage"}, the odds would be so astronomical of winning a $3000 GPU for $110 dollars that it should be obvious that something smells foul.

[@rafaelmarkos4489]

oh, the irony of the first reply here....

[@unmarkedmayhem]

This scam is like the email scam talking about a nigerian prince that needs your help and will award you millions if you can spare him thousands lol

[@aleksazunjic9672]

Technically speaking, it may not be a scam . They could sell 70 junk cards worth $0 for $7700. They could sell 16 cards that cost them $50 a piece with profit of $960. 8 cards could be gt1030/ rx 550 with no profit or loss. This leaves us with $8660 for two 30 series cards (which could be 3060 or 3050) and four 20 series cards (which could be 2060) . Doable .

[@brkbtjunkie]

I suspect it’s mostly kids that are falling for it

[@ADreamingTraveler]

So what if someone creates something so convincing that even more aware people fall for it? So is it the fault of the consumer or the company hosting it on their service?

[@finlandjourney6065]

Scam them back and say the card was broken and you're leaving the country soon so you have no time to wait for a replacement. Amazon usually keeps things simple in such cases to favor their customers over the sellers, because they want repeated customers on the platform, while sellers come and go, so they're far more replaceable.

[@CliffTheDragon]

I just saw one of these mystery boxes the other day, me and my friend were looking at pc parts on amazon and i came across a listing for a graphics card mystery box, knew 100% its a scam, it was from FJBenz and i feel bad there were 11 reviews mad they got scammed

[@CliffTheDragon]

@@choppings54 from what is saw all the reviews said they were going to try refunding so i hope it worked out

[@darealmaul]

I hope they all get denied. There needs to be consequences for stupid actions. Purchasing this is one of them.

[@alricdark]

@@darealmaul So if you walked into Walmart and bought something that turned out to be trash, do you think you shouldn’t get your money back because you didn’t do detailed research on the manufacturer first? No, you’d rightly expect Walmart to take full responsibility for what they sell. Unfortunately a lot of people think the same applies with Amazon There are no prominent warnings on their site of any kind that their policies literally allow fakes and knockoffs to be listed directly next to genuine goods, indeed I spent a week before Christmas trying to get listings for fake graphics cards removed that had been sponsored so they appeared at the top of the Amazon search list. I think that consumer protection legislation hasn’t caught up with Amazon and their equivalents yet, but i hope they do soon so this sort of nonsense is stopped.

[@TheOriginalFaxon]

I just went and searched "gpu mystery box" on amazon and I didn't immediately find one just for GPUs, but for only $34.99 you can get some random shit like a drone or a smart watch, gamepad, "digital computer", cameras, and more! basically a bunch of random electronics or accessories. I'll bet it's outdated smartphone cases from 5 years ago and other crap like that, knockoff electronics that don't cost squat, you get the picture. I doubt anyone gets the pictured gaming PC with buckets of RGB. There's a fake 5 star review, no details of what they received, only WOW so awesome! ordering more today! Then there's a bunch of reviews with photos of the random fake cheap crap they got edit: annnnd i just found the listing you were talking about. 11 1 star reviews lol, defintely a scam. one guy bought 6 of them omfg these people are unstoppable lol

[@SilvaDreams]

@@TheOriginalFaxon There is a reason why the saying "An idiot is born every minute" has been around for so long.

[@fatmanchew909]

The one good thing about it being shipped from Amazon is you can return it back to Amazon as "not as described"/defective and take it to your Whole Foods/Kohls and your refund is returned within hours.

[@bladactania]

Except it's neither of those things. He got a working graphics card as described.

[@benruss4130]

@@bladactania no, he didn't. No modern OS has drivers for that card (well, linux MIGHT have drivers for it still), and is therefore unusable as a GPU.

[@jonmc6573]

@@bladactania You clearly didn't watch the video

[@wildfire5181]

@@bladactania Nope, he got an ATI card from 2007. Nowhere on that listing for the page does it mention ATI cards being a possibility.

[@fatmanchew909]

@@bladactania I've been able to return items with less dings than that video card without a problem. Guarantee if he shows what shape that card is in Amazon won't hesitate.

[@starrynight5633]

This is why I never buy from anything that is sold by random people. Mostly sold by Amazon and a very trusted 3rd party.

[@ReclusiveEagle]

There are also counterfeit products being sold on Amazon too. Point is, read reviews at the bottom. Look for images of the product package to verify authenticity. Also some websites have authentication methods, Stickers barcodes etc *And Always record package openings, Always*

[@Twitch_Fox]

Can't even trust the reviews on Amazon now days, to many fake ones.

[@FireAngelOfLondon]

Reviews on Amazon are censored. I bought a new battery to fit my mobile phone a few years back, marked by Amazon as an authentic manufacturers battery. It was sold by Amazon not a third party trader and it was a fake. It works OK, and lasts nearly as long as a genuine one, but it was a cheap Chinese clone and twice the price of the other cheap Chinese clones. I left a review stating all of this and it was deleted within 24 hours. I managed to get it put back by complaining, but it left me wondering how many other reviews are deleted, and how many other people argue about it to get them put back, as I did. I have no figures but I am very wary of Amazon's review system now.

[@Schmaglow]

As someone who buys cards on TCGPlayer... that last line is 100% accurate. Been saved on a number of occasions when I had proof that I could send to their CS.

[@jstriker90]

Sad thing is, even the counterfeit products have thousands of "good reviews" I just bought Sig Saur a red dot that was counterfeit ( albeit a really good one) but I knew what to look for. Thankfully i recorded the package opening and got ahold of Amazon support instantly so they could issue the seller a return request. Moral is, always google the product you're buying and see if there are fakes, and know what to look for!

[@rothery2]

ran into this last year when my wife needed a webcam. Bought a Logitech from amazon. Shipped and Sold by amazon. Box was good and sealed. product inside was not logitech. Had none of the described functions and the cord was half the length. returned that one and ended up buying one directly from the logitech website.

[@BmoreSince1990]

If you Contact Amazon to do something about stopping this well haray for you man, a lot of respect and thanks cuz that s*** is ridiculous. Can't believe Amazon doesn't screen sellers like that.

[@Woodzta]

For a comparison, I bought a HD 4670 for £35, or roughly $40 from eBay in 2009. That card is a year newer and three times faster than the 'thing' they sent out. We all knew it'd be bad, but no way did I think it'd be THAT bad.

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

Yeah, I would've expected them to throw out a bunch of GT 710 and HD 6450, which are already hillariously weak. I mean, a friend had a HD 6450 and don't even think about getting 30 fps in Fallout NV.

[@mitchhedberg4415]

@@HappyBeezerStudios I think I had that for an old AGP slot Pentium 3.

[@MrMarinus18]

So you're saying that it was a pretty mediocre card even back in 2007? Something like what a 6500 is today?

[@LoneTiger]

After seeing this, went to Amazon to look for these scam boxes, one of them had 11 reviews, all negative of course. Some people are really, really naive.

[@LoneTiger]

Unfortunately, reporting these scam boxes to Amazon itself takes quite some gymnastics too.

[@garrden5583]

Amazon has gotten really sketchy these last few years

[@borrero-md1196]

From around 3-4 years now... It's amazing how much weird generic Chinese stuff is getting there and being promoted or magically showing thousands of positive reviews, when the products are clearly bad... One thing i just can't stand and understand is when the vendors chnage the publication entirely and they are selling something totally unrelated to what's being discussed in the reviews... Last week i was looking for a headlamp and found one that seemed ok... The reviews were about some shoes

[@ChiefsFireman]

Yep, bought a Car radio with Android Auto/Apple Play for like $110 off amazon which had really good reviews, when I got the radio it was nothing like the reviews, it was junk and falling apart, so I wrote a bad review. Within 24 hours the seller contacted me offering me a full refund, in exchange for me changing my review to 5 stars for them (Explains why the radio had great reviews). I told them to stuff it, and kept my bad review, so tired of paid reviews on amazon.

[@Ranveer_sangha03]

Because Chinese making account with fake ids and no one taking action against them I got scammed for 179.99 by Chinese wender but Amazon didt do anything No return nothing

[@brettpeacock9116]

Amazon has gotten really sketchy these past few years.... and so has Bezos.

[@gridtac2911]

Amazon is nothing more than a glorified ebay at this point

[@Spills51]

WHAT I HATE about Amazonb is the fact that a TON OF PRODUCTS send a card with the item you buy stating "HEY, IF YOU GIVE US 5 STARS WE WILL SEND YOU A SECOND ONE/ACCESSORY/ETC ETC.....' So you have A TON on AMZON that are GARBAGE PRODUCTS that have hundreds or thousands of 5 STARS that should have 3 or below....In my mind it SHOULD BE ILLEGAL TO DO SO. Amazon is aware of this but doesnt wanna put the effort in to enforce against this....All types do it but it is really bad with cheap chinease junk who do this.

[@MGlBlaze]

This trick has been all over ebay for a while too. The specific example I know of are magic the gathering 'mystery boxes,' often with rare and expensive cards being marked as 'available' in the description, and some of those cards being marked as 'sent' to add an air of legitimacy to the idea that you might possibly get one of those super money cards. Of course the reality is, all the seller is sending out is a bunch of unsalable garbage, dressing it up by saying you might get something awesome even though you most definitely won't. Optionally, add in a little extra spice by sending curated product to a youtuber or someone else with an audience that does actually have something good in it to advertise your scam and grab the attention of even more potential suckers. In this case, replace MtG cards with graphics cards. Lure people in with the promise of maybe getting something awesome at a budget price, and send out nothing but... well, what you got. Low-end cards from 10 or more years ago.

[@no_nameyouknow]

Isn't that just the entire TCG business model lol. It's actually worse because the "rare" card is not really any more costly to produce or has any value beyond the artificial value created by the people who made it, by only making a smaller number of said cards. Of course, they probably don't straight up lie about what you might get in a pack or whatever cards are sold in now.

[@RogerThat1945]

Even in Japan Amazon have hundreds of Chinese thieves trying to get your money for Electronic PC Parts & such where you never get the product. A fake Delivery number is the usual sign after a week or so. We also got scammed by another major retailer for a high end table tennis table for Christmas; thousands got scammed by that Christmas special.

[@TristynRusselo]

Lootbox or mystery box type of listings are against the terms of service for amazon and ebay. this listing should be reported to be removed.

[@MakeItWithCalvin]

I feel like the mystery box scam is a way to pawn off E-Waste. That card looks like something you would find at TRW for $10 in a bin with 30 others!

[@Irodu]

That is my thought as well. They probably run an Electronics Waste disposal business and are taking everybody's trash and found a way to make money off of it.

[@ItsNightmar3]

no, that card look way more like " phew i really need to clean up that old junk i hoarded for 15years with some crap my uncle gave me" and you come to the bottom of it and find THIS the ever first Video Card you uncle bought in his mit 20s while he still tried to be the cool smoking guy

[@J_Caban]

@@ItsNightmar3 wow that was hard to read

[@QoraxAudio]

Yep I thought the same. It was way too crusty for it NOT to be e-waste.

[@ItsNightmar3]

@@J_Caban yea sorry, my english is a bit rusty. thanks to corona and nearly no outside social connections for over 2 years :x

[@M0rn1n6St4r]

Seller only claims _the current-gen_ cards are _new._ Assume the _cheapest_ option (model + condition) is used _every time..._ 2% == 1 in 50 are NVIDIA GeForce RTX *3050* _or_ AMD Radeon RX *6500* (New: $200) 4% == 2 in 50 are NVIDIA GeForce RTX *2060* _or_ AMD Radeon RX *5500* (Used: $160) 8% == 4 in 50 are NVIDIA GeForce GTX *1050* _or_ AMD Radeon RX *550* (Used: $110) 16% == 8 in 50 are NVIDIA GeForce GTX *950* _or_ AMD Radeon R5 *330* (Used: $16) 70% == 35 in 50 are *ATI* Radeon *HD ????* (Used: $10) Money collected == $110 x 50 == $5,500 Money spent == ($200 x 1) + ($160 x 2) + ($110 x 4) + ($16 x 8) + ($10 x 35) == -($1,438) *Profit **_(potential)_** == $4,062*

[@ChNiNe09]

As someone that works as an Amazon customer service agent... When i see a market seller or a third party seller with those chinese names, i already know there will be an issue.

[@raycert07]

They ripped the 2 heatpipes out of the flower style cooler and then MASHED the fins

[@mr.mcfeely7970]

If that's not against Amazon's policy I'm done using Amazon. That's literally stuffing trash in an envelope and charging people 100 bucks for it.

[@alioshia3576]

most of it is probably the shipping costs

[@agentcrm]

TBH, it's probably a good idea to stop purchasing from there regardlesss. You can normally find the product cheaper by going direct or with other name brand stores.

[@stadtfahrplan]

Like amazon hasn't done worst things. Some people are so reactionary, You know this guy will have it forgotten until tomorrow. Already emotional disturbed or attached by something else by then.

[@juliashenandoah3965]

But it´s the one mans trash is another man´s treasure policy.... :D

[@mr.mcfeely7970]

@@stadtfahrplan what are you on about princess?

[@Americae_Primum]

It's crazy that there are people out there who are so gullible to fall for these kinds of "mystery box" scams, that you even have to make this video to give warning in the first place.

[@PsionicKevin]

Thank you for having fun with this so we can all enjoy it with you 😂

[@karljay7473]

What ever happened to those "don't open the box and you get $X, open the box and you keep what's in it" ? I thought that was this was going to be at first, but now I wonder why ANYONE would do this.

[@mhonella]

I came across this listing as well. Thanks for being the live test subject for this obvious scam. Just hope some kid didn't spend some of his build money hoping to win the GPU lottery. Thanks for your educational and often humorous content!

[@scorch4299]

why does anyone need it tested?? obviously with no oversight, they arent gonna send anything hi value...

[@TheRonwald]

Amazon 3rd party seller rules require the seller to ship exactly what is in the title of the item. If they don't, you can return it for the reason: received wrong item or item not as described. Amazon will require the seller to pay for the return shipping. Amazon sets return policy, not the seller.

[@Zzz-j2f]

I’m just sitting here trying to figure out what knife Jay was playing with the whole time lol.

[@lucidity1230]

Hell, with Amazon, you could probably return it in used rags and still get a full refund. That would be the ultimate smack in their face.

[@lurka1337]

hey jay, as long as you look at it like playing the lottery except that you at least get something even if it isn't worth your money... its better than lottery, at least you recieve something

[@djapothecary]

Thanks for making this video, this predatory marketing needs to be stopped 👍 but I do like the cooler...

[@chrishaugh1655]

How does amazon allow this? It is quite literally against their terms of service for sellers.

[@pandaghostofficial]

Please don't say you're losing money, please don't! Just this video alone made you more than what you expended on that purchase, and you can still probably return for full refund since it's amazons that ships the item

[@Fr0styPage]

Many scams at Amazon. As much as finding a low end graphics card in a high end box with enough weight to match high end so it goes past their SLAM machines👍just to name one scam I know of first hand

[@HebuTheLoneWolf]

when the covid hit there was lots of fake face masks listed. either the mask was useless or super low quality that dint match the pics or description at all. and most of them just copy pasted pics from other similar mask from more high quality mask that costed 3-4 times more

[@briancannam494]

I like how you are subconsciously playing with a knife while talking about scammers !!!! says a lot about how you really feel :)

[@GhostOfSnuffles]

The fact Amazon is complicit in this the worst part.

[@MrSanitor]

Dang Jay. That ad did so well it's on sale now. Can't wait to get my new 3090 for only $99.99! "In all seriousness, I would contact Amazon and get their account banned for misleading customers"

[@MrGrimsmith]

I dunno, you young 'uns are spolied! That's a perfectly good GPU right there! Why, back in my day we had 16 KB with 4 colours and were grateful for it! Kudos to you for sinking some cash in so others don't have to but the important takeaway is that if it seems too good to be true then it isn't true.

[@mycosys]

4 colours? luxury, when i were a lad we had green and green, and played with a knife for a joystick, up hill, both ways.

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

Nah, that card was shite even when it came out. I'd gladly stay on a 3 year old 6600 GT over this. The 3450 is basically what the GT 710 was 5 years ago.

[@Allixria36]

Yayy.. Somebody's older than me here! 🤣 I still remember when I bought my first 128MB ... It was an ATI All-in-Wonder so that I could capture my old VHSs!!

[@igotnoname4557]

Really, there is no need for anything more. That's enough to completely saturate the ISA bus and there is no real reason to make that faster. It does everything: Input and Output all at the same speed as the processor. Perfect. Don't mess with it, I say.

[@diskdrive123]

Amazon free returns 👍

[@oceanbytez847]

I hope Jay talks about how there are basically no reputable computer parts vendors left anymore.

[@Flootyy]

next video: *Confronting Amazon face-to-face*

[@nicksterxo]

Someone tag Steve

[@ahtzee9078]

I recently saw these mystery box scams on Amazon too. I knew they were scams. I don’t see mystery boxes for GPUs now. Hope the victims get their money back.

[@ahtzee9078]

@Billy White Jr. I saw new GPU scam accounts on Amazon today too. They used to be $99. Now they're like $150+ lol.

[@NapFloridian]

Its disgusting to see what these e-retailers do to make a buck with these scams. Being it Amazon or Newegg, they should not allow this kind of stuff

[@Elguapoe]

they technically said in the ad that the box will contain all the nvidia and amd products as well, their typo could technically mean you should have expected to get all those gpu's for that price. They also mentioned what you will get will be equivalent to the purchase price of 100$ or whatever it was and the 3450 sells for 15$.

[@3verland]

Here's the very sad part about Amazon, I've been a Prime member for over (25) years. Though I have never really lost any money on Amazon (scammed), they have a ton of 3rd party sellers using their site as a store front, and some of these 3rd party companies have very unsavory business practices. No matter how much trouble you had with an order, Amazon will simply NOT do anything to crack down on them, or ban them from doing business via Amazon. I suspect nothing changes for (2) reasons, (1) no matter who you speak to at amazon, you word is never going to make it to corporate, the real people in charge that make changes. (2) It's pure greed, Amazon is not going to bite the hand that feeds them. Unless I really know the 3rd party company, the only way I make purchases on Amazon is if...the product is listed as fulfilled and shipped by Amazon.

[@zsorens4570]

I feel like in this day and age buying one of these loot boxes you deserve to lose money

[@markstover984]

Huge kudos to you for putting this out there so the rest of us don’t do something so stupid.

[@Direwolf216]

You can buy one those (ATI Radeon HD 3450) for $5.00 USD today (April 17, 2022). But giving a heads-up to even one person who might have fallen for this scam is priceless.

[@gabrielnelson3400]

When the grammar sucks in the description....RUN!

[@gl15col]

Amazon has gone in the toilet. I have had to send back a couple things that I had ordered before, but started getting cheap crap Chinese copies. I will think very carefully before giving them any more business.

[@ColinWatters]

In the UK you have the right to return any mail order item for 7 days for any reason. Very few items exempt.

[@dsilvermane0]

That 3080Ti reveal had me in stitches. Gave me all kinds of Crocodile Dundee vibes - that's not a 3080Ti, THIS is a 3080Ti XDDD

[@mesmericliliana]

Hopefully, they don't allow this, but considering it comes from the company that was allowing authors to be ripped off by people, I have my doubts. I don't know if it's changed or not, but at one time they were allowing customers to buy ebooks and then allowing returns if it was within 7 days. The problem with this was that people were returning the ebook after reading the entire book. When a Kindle book is returned, the publisher loses their cut of the sale, and in turn, the author doesn't get royalties for that copy.

[@DragonXDrei]

They surely can't sell a broken product. It's not even about returning it because you changed your mind, it's returning it because it is broken and not working. You could also look at the size of the packet, if it is light and shabby looking, just refuse delivery:)

[@Carikenja]

I have run into a scam like this before. I was looking for a rug and seeing the picture assumed it was one size... it was not. They refused the return (because they probably didn't want to pay the restock.) and refunded me instead.

[@BadBrad119]

It's like retro game boxes. It's made to be a gambling game but in the end, it's an easy way for sellers to unload the less popular titles

[@minnow9456]

Phil laughing in the background always gets me

[@MrJaz8088]

Lucky Dips have been around since before my time and i am 55, Back in the Good Ol Day's when people had moral's and cared for the fellow man, you actually got good gift's

[@brianpercival1829]

Probably returned electronics to India for base metal recovery. They have old PCs running Windows XP or 7 to test if boards work and send those out as mystery box crap. Its like the old TV scam, $100 for a 46 inch Flat screen TV for $100. Notice they are all around 100 bucks. TV arrives dead pixels, cracked screens, no power supplies.

[@johnchristopherrobert1839]

Discrete purchase sounds like one of those companies who buys up all the returns from Amazon and then re-packages the items and sells them as a crate surprise boxes.

[@odio3965]

The price paid for this is about 1/3 what I spend on a new card...that will last me for around five or so years (or until the new DirectX comes out). All I'm saying is you got more money than you do brains if you keep investing past the point of where you start to hit diminishing returns...my GTX 1060 by Asus is still killing it.

[@ScarletEyeMoon]

I just love Phil's laughter, it makes your videos fun to watch, and learn some things too, it's great

[@suzannehartmann946]

A. I quit buying from Amazon when the REVIEWS turned into a scam and ONE of the things I bought was a highly rated umbrella that did not even work once and the company refused to even acknowledge my attempts to get a replacment or refund. (promised in the Amazon ad) B. The game of get the best toy has been played with little ones in "mystery" boxes since I was a kid (I am 65) and first my kids now my grandkids have had to play the game enough times to be dissuaded. They will never GET the best in the set only repeats of ones they already have. Even McDonalds plays it in KIDS MEALS!

[@Gaming.And.Yelling]

wow, that is digusting. They clearly lied, it was not worth 109 bucks. This is freaking disgusting. Kinda wanna know what Amazon has to say about that. Clearly that was not worth the dumb gamble. Then again. NEVER GAMBLE.

[@michaelzernie7092]

I'd be contacting Amazon. I've had a seller removed from Amazon for trying to scam people.

[@xFFSx]

anyone who actually purchased this item, deserved to be scammed. so many red flags.

[@SweetLeavesXbox1]

There is no way I would install that crap into any chassis. Even a shoe box would be insulted 😂

[@falcon-ng6sd]

Well, to be fair, there's certainly risk in plugging a suspect device into a motherboard and powering it up.

[@smilingpsycho]

Thanks Jay! I saw an ad on Amazon the other just like what you just did. Its a shame, random crate boxes and random probabilities should be outlawed or at least fall in the category of gambling. We need a politician that can help the common folks. We should hire the guy who came up with the switch-and-bait law because this is very similar.

[@josephfoster3300]

Just a heads up on what seems to be another scam on Amazon. I ordered a 1 TB SSD internal drive and it would not accept a cloning of my original 1 TB WD mechanical drive. The it wouldn't even alow me to erased what was accepted. I used Macrium Reflect 8 first, then tried Mini Tool and AOMEI disk utilities. I was able to get a replacement, but it is now doing the same thing. The second disk was sent as a "Replacement Order" and doesn't allow for a return or a refund. It just allows me to review the first return transaction text.

[@BlkF]

Oh boy, this made me laugh so much. This is the type of videos I love.

[@tomidomusic]

Do not pay that portion of the credit card charge; contact your CC company and dispute the misrepresentation. Let the CFPB (Consumer Financial Protection Bureau) handle it.

[@Sharki_V]

I remember seeing those on Amazon months ago. Even then I knew that was bogus. People like them should be reported and banned from selling on the website any longer.

[@letigidou453]

At this point I only buy if ''sold and shipped by Amazon''. If buying from another company they must still use Amazon shipping (and prime) and must have thousands of customer reviews.

[@ellarpc]

Thank you for your public service Jay.

[@luxaly9510]

8:29 well compared to storage units the company that sets them for auction also dont know what inside while the seller knows exactly what he is sending u...

[@johnrtrucker]

I hope no ones buys this but also really hope you make your money back from the revenue on this video plus Phil's laughter is fucking contagious! 😂😂😂😂

[@xHICKORYx]

The crime, assuming that there are not the actual items claimed available, would be fraud.

[@fredreed2001]

I hate to say this but both Newegg and tigerdirect do it. Walmart also this sells open boxed and sometimes if you order something from Walmart you might get an empty box with nothing inside it. I ordered something from Walmart and when I got it the box was completely empty with no product inside it. Walmart and Amazon are both terrible when it comes to buying products from them. If you report the product to Amazon they refuse to take action on it.

[@lrmackmcbride7498]

They are buying amazon return pallets and selling the crap from the pallet. That is why the stuff is so random.

[@danaparsonsliquidcosmosart2669]

Tried to buy a laptop paid for it only for the seller to message and say they only accepted payment by bank transfer ( but I'd already paid) I contacted Amazon immediately got them to refund my money and made them aware of all the emails. ( The initial sale looked like it was directly fulfilled by Amazon from one of their marketplace sellers)

[@yl3546]

I am really surprised somebody buying this box. Also I am very surprised somebody respond to scam phone calls. But it happens.

[@michaelmcdowell7096]

If u just read the exact list of cards, the list alone make a gtx 1600 seem like the worst case scenario which wouldn't be terrible but u actually got a chance of 70% that u won't even get that.

[@HenryLoenwind]

Why didn't I think of something like this? I have so many old PC parts...maybe my "grand prize" could be an 8-bit serial port card?

[@skvltdmedia]

WHY do people still shop there?? And don't forget return and then re-sale policy where the merch isn't even checked and sold right back to the next unfortunate consumers while Amazon will do absolutely nothing but continue the loop. At least eBay is pretty strict on sellers over the past 6 years and there's little to no tomfoolery going on there.

[@Clu_3x]

lot of scamming recently kind of sucks

[@Erdie5]

My mother bought my wife and I gift cards direct from Amazon. One was matte, one was shiny. The shiny one, according to amazon they had "no record of the number and it must have been a printing error" and offered to issue a refund. I told them no, it is clearly counterfeit, someone is swapping them either at the warehouse or elsewhere. Is this not a concern? "No, it's just a printing error. We'll issue you a refund." Guy absolutely would not acknowledge that it was counterfeit. I deliberately asked a few questions to get him to say the word and he did everything possible to avoid doing so. Must be policy. Can't have a counterfeit problem if you don't acknowledge the word, right? That's some big brain thinking there. Long story short, I doubt they do anything in this case. Even if it's against policy.

[@tobyrock7194]

False advertising is a crime.

[@HiImGrymey]

Thanks Jay! You're the best!