"I guess I'm authoritarian!" - Debating a hypocritical Conservative

[@MisterRorschach90]

So basically this guy wants free speech for the right, but not the left, while also claiming that the right needs free and unfettered speech on private platforms to keep it from turning into a left wing echo chamber. He also likes how communists were deported back in the day. So in conclusion this guy wants a right wing echo chamber where anyone who doesn’t think like him is deported. I bet he will end up saying something about wanting smaller government, while also saying he wants government to control social media, and to go around policing everyone making sure they aren’t protesting or saying anything he finds offensive. It’s so weird, ever since getting into politics and actually reading things myself and looking at the evidence myself, I have not met a single intelligent conservative with good tales on anything.

[@apgaismiba]

bro thinks he is stalin 💀

[@ingibingi2000]

If I spew hate in the public square people won't like it I'm so oppressed

[@d.r.parsons]

All I said was that the worst thing to ever happen in America was the abolition of slavery and women being given the right to vote. I feel so attacked for just expressing my beliefs. How dare they!

[@buggz7862]

as a bi person. i felt to be an outcast by most straight people in my town and it highly contributed to my thoughts of suicide but somehow there is "little pushback" "mostly accepted. what a clown, give me a break

[@miguelconamor6687]

I don't like how Hunter puts 'hypocritical conservative' in the title. . . . . . . this implies that most conservatives aren't already hypocritical

[@nondescriptcat5620]

Redundancy Department of Redundancy energy

[@kerbalproductionshideout5398]

I beg your pardon? Calling the right out on their actual bullshit I understand, but calling “most conservatives…hypocritical” no. That’d be like saying “Thats implying that most leftists aren’t already communists who hail to Xi Jinping.”

[@yoredeerleader]

Sin is not a thing. It doesn’t exist.

[@FelisImpurrator]

Technically, it does... Alongside cos and tan, in trigonometry.

[@JuliaAurelias]

​@FelisImpurrator I hope you don't mind me borrowing your comment. It's perfect, all round.

[@markharrison6498]

This guy seems to care more about the idea of America than actual Americans. Super strange

[@mechanomics2649]

I don't think that's true though. The idea of America is a place of freedom. Freedom of speech, religion, and to pursue happiness. This guy cares about the right's idea of America, which is goes against the true idea of America.

[@markharrison6498]

@@mechanomics2649 yeah, true. That’s why I thought it was super strange. His position is ultimately contradictory. America would be an absolute hellscape if this guy got his way

[@markharrison6498]

@@mechanomics2649 He seems to have conservative brain-rot honestly. Views improvement to people’s lives and freedoms as a negative and would be happy to send us all back to the dark ages. I don’t understand how a young person gets this way

[@lunsen402]

Behold the dishonesty of conservocucks. Hunter really brought his dad energy out in this one.

[@mikeparker7631]

Lol...as a leftist you have literally zero idea what you believe on any topic until one of your masters tells you...its how you change opinions every couple of years...yet have zero recollection of that complete 180. You don't hold a rational or even explainable stance on ANY issue...but we're dishonest? Turn off CNN and turn on your fucking brain...

[@robertcincrest2019]

Fun fact, burning a flag is actually how you're legally meant to destroy a flag that is "in such condition that it is no longer a fitting emblem for display", it's true, look up 4 U.S. Code § 8 (k).

[@nondescriptcat5620]

conservative "follow the United States Flag Code" challenge: IMPOSSIBLE DIFFICULTY! (d) The flag should never be used as wearing apparel, bedding, or drapery. (g) The flag should never have placed upon it, nor on any part of it, nor attached to it any mark, insignia, letter, word, figure, design, picture, or drawing of any nature. (i) The flag should never be used for advertising purposes in any manner whatsoever. (j) No part of the flag should ever be used as a costume or athletic uniform.

[@Theoldenmage]

Yeah we learned this in boy scouts, ironically it's seen as a way to respect the flag, these guys are total idiots

[@gordonstrong5232]

What's with the freaking Matt Walsh ads on every video now, holy shit KZbin just stop

[@thesaltybeard1793]

"play the game" This isn't a game to us and it isn't a game to trans people, gay people queer people in general, or just... Humans in general. Treating this like a game that you need to win because you're already on one team and you don't think you can just change teams is evidence that you're sub human as far as I'm concerned. That goes for anyone who treats this shit like team sports. Left or right. And they exist on the left... Just in fewer numbers.

[@mikeparker7631]

They exist exclusively on the left....you people have ZERO worldview...you just supprot your team no matter how hypocritical and incoherent the issue. Pick ANY two leftist views and odds are virtually 100% they are directly in opposition to one another. Folks on the right have a consistent system of beliefs that holds true regardless of the issue. Just because you aren't intelligent (or honest) enough to even comprehend the beliefs you're told to have, that isn't a good reason to project your insecurities and irrational beliefs onto those of us who actually care about every issue you pretend to give a shit about. There's a reason you people never...as in ever...agree to a debate with folks on the opposite side...we understand your own arguments better than you do...and it would never occur to you to even try to understand ours.

[@KlaireMurre]

"Takes away ability to have children" yeah its almost like they consent to that knowing full well.

[@nondescriptcat5620]

conservatives don't believe in consent.

[@RugSenpai]

me on the highway listening to this 👁👄👁

[@moresnqp]

@@RugSenpai bros typing out emojis going turbo w one hand

[@Wetley007]

Not to mention the fact that alot of trans people freeze their sperm/egg if they want to have their own biological children in the future, that's been a thing for decades now

[@fionaskittle]

I wish I knew being trans was an option when I was younger. Instead of desperately trying to bury all my shit deep down, which caused far more pain. Transitioned 20 years ago, I guess it's not a phase.

[@mikeparker7631]

Sorry you didn't have anyone around you to help you through your difficulties...you could have been happy if someone had cared enough about you to be honest and get you the help you needed.

[@KK20191]

Be happy that you are still here. It's sucks that there weren't people there for you but you still persevered despite the terrible circumstances

[@roxycauldwell544]

Republican: "Big corporations like KZbin are a liberal echo chamber" Hunter: *literally dedicates his channel to allow Republicans to debate*

[@withinthrall1445]

I knew about trans people at around the age of 6-7. Never made me want to “become trans.” Most trans people aren’t going around interacting with kids or forcing this on kids. I found it out from cis people.

[@rustyshackleford1697]

I'm barely 13 minutes in and I can say I'm very glad he's not in any position of power. I hope he comes to his senses one day and learns to disagree with something but to not outright censor harmless things.

[@d.r.parsons]

Don't jinx it. People like that dude get elected into positions of power all the time (e.g. MGT).

[@Derpalon]

I was screaming into my phone listening to this convo. Jesus, this guy's worldview is so incoherent and he can be so nonchalant and smug about it at the same time.

[@kasterborous903]

Same!!! I’m arguing with the air over here.

[@commoncure3335]

I think burning the american flag can be an act of patriotism

[@trevorbeaverfan]

Well before January 6th if people saw you burning the flag, you would be viewed as some piece of shit and were told to leave America if you didn't like it here. I think rioting and trying to overthrow the election results via a coup is more disrespectful to the country than burning a piece of cloth like the American flag that can be replaced.

[@mechanomics2649]

17:15 Well hold on, telling people to explore their sexuality is not in anyway promoting the sentiment that "being gay is the way to go", and there's nothing inherently wrong with that.

[@wilfredtwitchthrust7688]

Nothing this guy says makes sense. He makes a bunch of assumptions that he very poorly post-hoc rationalizes. And he's not even consistent. People like that get so boring so fast that all I'm really listening to now is Hunter using the guy's own logic against him and watching him stutter as he argues against his own reasoning. That's conservatism in a nutshell.

[@thedukeofburgundy7432]

“Debating a hypocritical conservative” well that’s pretty vague isn’t it

[@yoredeerleader]

Translation: the government must impose my particular conservative values and make everything else illegal because my particular conservative values are so bad that in the marketplace of ideas, my particular conservative values would be lying gutted and exsanguinated on the floor of the marketplace of ideas.

[@longlivethesheet4561]

It’s the party of feelies my friend

[@chronitonfluxcapybara4231]

@@longlivethesheet4561 So true.

[@wolfythewolf9691]

Censorship for thee, but not for me.

[@brokenguardianangel8575]

Hold on. Being trans or gay doesnt mean you cannot have children the typical way. Not all trans people do get bottom surgery bc they might want to have biological children. (Which is cheaper than freezing eggs ofc). And so what if being trans means that the person will not be able to have biological kids? Not everyone wants to. People have conditions that can be passed down. People might not know if they can handle a new born so they skip right to a toddler. Just because you think it is important to have a family doesnt mean every single person agrees. Just because you think it is important to have biological kids doesnt mean people will agree with you. Not everyone is like you and that is okay. (Well, technically no one is like you bc you are a true snowflake. No but literally. Every human is unique. You will probably never find a person who agrees with you on every single topic or theme.)

[@moresnqp]

@@chrisrevel2801 ??? ok and coke is more popular than pepsi, but some people prefer pepsi

[@kristopherlawrence6476]

And I'm so tired of hearing people make this argument then get so triggered by pregnant trans men or by trans women calling themselves mothers or gay people adopting. We just want to live without fear or harassment. Why is that "pushing an agenda"? Ugh.

[@brokenguardianangel8575]

@@chrisrevel2801 love, just because something is done by the majority doesnt mean it is the right thing. Most nazis hated jews. (Ended up aiding the holocaust) Most Russian soldiers have been destroying Ukrainian homes, raping women. Yes, most people are heterosexual but that doesnt mean that a gay couple who adopt is somehow wrong. Just because something is done by the majority of a group does not make it right. Like majority of right-wing is still homophobic. They are also trsnsphobic. Let people live their lives. Neither being gay or being trans is something you can teach a child so it wont matter is a gay couple adopts a child or a trans person has a biological child (or adopts)

[@brokenguardianangel8575]

@@chrisrevel2801 okay. What is a normal heterosexual family? Was my family one of those bc I had a mom and a dad who lived under the same roof. Had 3 kids. ?

[@brokenguardianangel8575]

@@chrisrevel2801 does it mean that a family where there is step children or that has 2 moms is somehow wrong? Just because something is the majority doesnt mean it should be desirable.

[@jstambo478]

I love the you holding his feet to the fire about how much his ideas are harmful

[@profoundclarity8497]

This guy epitomizes the right in america and why we will never progress....

[@kaziem]

Tell me you don't understand what a right is while telling me don't care what a right is.

[@garywebb2432]

Debate Lord Hunter Arc continues

[@kaziem]

When was he not... a... debate... lord? I'm confused.

[@garywebb2432]

@@kaziem he's leveled up

[@Revan058]

@@kaziem He was just a debate _bro_ before.

[@sataniccabal4276]

Hunter with that closing statement, lmao.

[@thenotsodiscretewolf2098]

Unironically he is anti America for thinking the flag shouldn't be burned "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.". 😂 Hunter look in to worker coops. can we at least make you for democratic socialism?

[@mikeparker7631]

No such thing as "democratic socialism"...socialism is by literally every conceivable definition a complete take over of the economy by a fascist government. Anyone who doesn't get that has less than no clue how economy OR government work.

[@thenotsodiscretewolf2098]

@@mikeparker7631 a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole. Worker democracies fall under this. Now I'm way far left of socialism I'm am a communist which is a stateless, classless and moneyless society, which is kinda the opposite of a dictatorship or "fatcist".

[@mikeparker7631]

@@thenotsodiscretewolf2098 Right...so you have literally no idea how economies work...or you've just never actually met a human being. Socialism (communism, literally the same fucking thing) can not...under ANY circumstance...exist without total control by the government. I'm sorry your grasp on reality is so tenuous that you can't comprehend this truth...but contrary to what your woman's studies "professor" told you, facts DO matter. Even if communism (socialism, same thing) could somehow exist without enforcement by a strong arm...theft, strife and laziness would be so commonplace, the economy would fall apart within months. Hell...even WITH fascism keeping it running, this tends to happen...while the fat cats soaking all resources take way more than the economies can handle. \Yo ucan;t point to a single example of your idiotic economic theories working in the real world. Its ever happened... Guess what though...unlike you leftist idiots...I understand your arguments. I know exactly what examples you'll try to push as being indicative of your glorious, fantasy utopia. All of them are incorrect...either rampant with corruption and suffering...or economies made so strong by CAPITALISM that their later usurpation by the evils of communism has yet to completely crumble...though in every example the weakening of those economies is obvious to anyone with more than two IQ points to rub together. Turn off CNN and turn on your brain...a degree in basket weaving sponsored by the Russian government doesn't make you eduicated...it makes you propagandized.

[@LaurenElizabethYT]

I’m curious, in his mind, how exactly the specifics of this law would work. Like if an American flag gets burnt in a house fire, is the homeowner charged for flag burning? Or if it’s only illegal in cases of *intentional* burning … then how do you determine if the flag burning was intentional or not? Do we need a full trial? Hey, maybe this guy just staged a house fire so he could burn the flag and get away with it 😅 What about something like a candle designed to look like the American flag? Would such a candle be illegal to make and sell? Or maybe only illegal to burn the candle? Does the flag have to be the exact design? What about a more cartoonish design where the stars are just dots, or there’s not the right number of stars or stripes - is it still illegal to burn when it’s not the official design? Or what about a scribbly kid’s drawing of the flag?

[@Cory_Springer]

Holy shot that kid has a lot to learn! Great vid as always, Hunter.

[@oliviamoore3426]

Gay people and trans people existing isn’t pushing an agenda

[@oliviamoore3426]

@John Collins lmao i see Your 2 braincells rubbet together to. One up with that response 🤣😂

[@Spectra651]

When this guy brought up the case about that Canadian parent supposedly having their kid taken away from them because they kept misgengering them, I couldn't help but wonder what he'd have to say about all the legislation conservatives in the United States are trying to pass as we speak that would essentially consider parents reaffirming their trans child's gender as child abuse and having *their* kids removed from them.

[@nickcarlson2881]

Thanks

[@Froggsroxx]

10:10 without a shred of irony the conservative describes why a tos is necessary after complaining about censorship

[@Roob_the_Noob]

Guys like this demonstrate how civility politics is brainrot

[@redjr2832]

Conservative BrainRot

[@longlivethesheet4561]

Genuinely this is just a great deconstruction of the actual (lack of) thought behind Conservatives’ two-faced position on free speech

[@malonee]

*pretends to care about high suicide rate* "Where do these things happen" *brings up court case where a parent literally does the thing that hunter was talking about* Me: 👁👄👁

[@benji9107]

19:53 Alan Turing and the Enigma machine? Bruh he literally was pivotal to ending ww2 he should be taught about in schools

[@julius7539]

Ahh yes, what a gifted thinker: "goberment allow people say good thing, goberment stop people say bad thing."

[@V-V1875-h]

Authoritarian when it suits me

[@goodneighbor9753]

I grew up in a small town, first trans person to come out in my high school (at 16) Prior to coming out for years i was hardly allowed on the internet. No tumblr, no twitter, nothing. I only understood trans people as a joke on TV Since the age of 14 i knew i wasnt cis but i didnt think it was possible or had the right words for it I cried all the time over it, i was so confused and i felt like i was trapped When i was 16 i went to comicon and met a trans man for the first time I had never even really heard of trans men before then He explained to me a little about how he felt, and it clicked with me that this is what i had been feeling my entire life This person also tried to convince me that i wasnt trans After i met him i did what little research i could on our limited internet access at school My family is also very unaccepting Its extremely funny to me when people accuse trans people existing being a way to groom children I spent my whole life being told no I was the one who finally said yes. Not society.

[@FuzzyImages]

This guy deserves a gold medal with these mental gymnastics!

[@royalcass]

the message i gained from the caller is, it's okay to censor so long as it's something I don't like

[@themadmanescaped1]

This dude's view in a nutshell: Freedom for me less for you.

[@ethanthefrank2973]

This guy made me wanna burn a flag

[@EvilGuacamoleGaming]

Gotta be real, I just... enjoy the spectacle sometimes. Hunter beat the rhetorical shit out of this guy. I'd gladly have listened to more of just this. Fish in a barrel. Humiliation of these types gives me hope about the world.

[@yoredeerleader]

From Wikipedia: The paradox of tolerance states that if a society is tolerant without limit, its ability to be tolerant is eventually seized or destroyed by the intolerant. Karl Popper described it as the seemingly paradoxical idea that in order to maintain a tolerant society, the society must retain the right to be intolerant of intolerance.

[@runningbetweenspaces]

Basically "Being nice to fascist doesn't work"

[@gordonstrong5232]

True, I throw the tolerance paradox at right-wingers whenever I hear them crying about not being able to be racist on Twitter or whatever

[@StainsAndGrains]

What's hilarious is that old flags are supposed to be disposed of.......by burning them. So now we're quibbling about the intention of the flames?

[@Cory_Springer]

My local VFW is hosting a community-wide flag burning this weekend

[@StainsAndGrains]

@@Cory_Springer buncha commies

[@nonmnone613]

Geezus. Correct me in the comments, but I'm pretty sure when it comes to the Suprem Court ruling on matters like burning the American flag, the standard is "does this right directly cause and/or result in the harm of others and/or violate others rights?" Buring the flag does not meet this standard, but yelling "FIRE!!!" in a crowded theater does.

[@siffe3336]

I am soo confused over this dude, like he is saying that there is no discrimination or mistreatment of lgbt people in America out of all places... Totally ignoring that America is pretty damn religious (not that all religious people are anti lgbt but it's more likely), also ignoring Fox News popularity. Like where I live maybe some stuff he could have said would be a tad bit valid, because like let's say someone spreads a harmful message like "homosexuality is cancer upon society." That is technically against the law, and a pastor went to court for just that though he is freed by EU courts because the EU courts decision about what is within free speech is above our laws.

[@brokenguardianangel8575]

It is weird that the US doesnt allow burning of the flag. (Or should I say the right doesnt) It is a symbol of respect to get rid of the Finnish flag by burning it when there is no use for it or it cannot be used anymore. (Has a hole, the colors have faded too much) of course you are not required to get rid of it like that but I would think most Finns would do it like that still. The other way is to cut it until it cannot be recognized to be the Finnish flag. I would burn any kind of flag bc it is a sign of respect when I do not have use for it. Funny also that it tends to be right-wing that has clothes and such made of the american flag (with the pattern, not literally made of a flag). It is actually kind of frowned upon. It is a violation of the federal Flag code. It is considered to be disrespectful to the flag to wear it on clothing, apparel, ...

[@nondescriptcat5620]

4 U.S. Code § 8 - Respect for flag (k) The flag, when it is in such condition that it is no longer a fitting emblem for display, should be destroyed in a dignified way, preferably by burning.

[@lilyl8927]

“I’m a polite bigot so I’m not really hate criming, I just actively support it”

[@quasi8180]

Flags are just fabric.

[@sanorii9573]

Why is it so hard for this guy to believe that gay/trans/queer people are treated horribly JUST for being who they are???? You see it everyday. Ignorance

[@mechanomics2649]

Because people are mean to him on twitter when he says dumb things.

[@gooseberree4955]

I had no idea that we would need to demonstrate the harm being done to transpeople for...ever basically.

[@beleakswordsteel]

It's scary how close this sounds to shit I said not that many years ago. Minus all the bits about God

[@jordanmacleod3688]

No burning the flag is a political statement so is protected under the constitution.

[@brianmccarthy890]

Hunter, thanks for your support of the LGBT community!

[@truthseeksme9994]

You seem like such a gentle heart, and it's absolutely beauty ❤🌹

[@mogscugg2639]

Got an ad for Matt Walsh's child pornography documentary before this. It contains child pornography.

[@arby327]

Im not even surprised considering Matt Walsh made it

[@theletterm1787]

Wait really?

[@theobsidiansimp8626]

I keep getting ads for it too, I wonder why. It’s not as if we’re the intended demographic.

[@mogscugg2639]

@@theletterm1787 yeah, he uses footage of a nude child pre-transition in the documentary He's already sued Matt for defamation iirc

[@mogscugg2639]

@@arby327 when will we invent spawning vats to create humans at age 26 I must anger Matt Walsh by depriving him of children to groom

[@enok-hansen4635]

Hey man, cool vid havent watched any of your vids since 2017. Hows life

[@kaziem]

Well... Some things happened.

[@enok-hansen4635]

@@kaziem really? What?

[@samuelwestlund3386]

Flag burning is cringy, and people who burn the flag ought to be black-listed. But that is as far as government involvement over the issue of flag-burning ought to go, and that is as far as it does go. Nobody should go to jail, nobody should get deported, but they sure as hell need to be watched, and that is exactly how the system currently works in this country. People are allowed to hold and express whatever political opinions they want, but if there is evidence that said individual is subverting the system then it is fine to deport the person--but not because of their political opinions. Gay people and trans people exist, and it is only amoral to introduce kids to topics of sexuality before puberty. After puberty, they need to know about this shit because some of them like the opposite sex, some like the same sex, and some do not define their gender by their biology, and these aspects of their psychology and biology start manifesting at puberty. Religion is fine, but not the literal interpretation of religion which is what this guest appears to believe in. There is a trend towards social revenge on the west coast when it comes to racism, but that is a phenomena that is entirely unique to that part of the country because people there are weird, like this guy. This social revenge trend is what is responsible for the high suicide rate, take it from a man who has been out there during the 2010s. In fact, this guy might be from Washington state. If he is, that might excuse him of some of his rather authoritarian view points and his lack of motivation to look this shit up or read the information that Hunter is showing him during the video. As for me, I was bored enough to sit through something political and comment on it tonight. Very democrat of me. Maybe I'll be republican again tomorrow and not give a shit about politics.

[@shirubaseishin3065]

I keep getting these stupid matt walsh ads and it’s driving me insane.

[@shirubaseishin3065]

@John Collins are conservatives censored and being canceled?

[@tomw9739]

Was wondering if anyone else was getting those ads as well. It's seems like TDW are actually targeting users who consume leftwing content, probably increase viewership through outrage or something.

[@Tayvin4042]

God this guy is insufferable. Like talking to a brick wall.

[@jabbarmuhammad8804]

Nobody should have their freedom of speech taking away rather it's from the right or left

[@deltabot6550]

If that speech is harmful, like this kid's I'm fine with them being shunned.

[@limitbreak2966]

39:10 hunter thinks that because you repeatedly claimed white men are HEAVILY discriminated against while talking shit about BLM

[@sandersGG]

Bro transitioning it not the removal of genitals it takes puberty blockers

[@tonylenzi166]

He was right about being able to have your kid taken if they identify as the oppisite sex and u dont support it, which is rediculous, i coupd care less is your gay bi trans, but how can u take someones child from them for not supporting them being trans at 3 that i dont support

[@wilfredtwitchthrust7688]

Hunter already proved it wrong. Repetition is not validation. Anyway, what you're talking about is transphobic parents abusing their children and the law removing them from the abuse.

[@C-shadow]

lmfao he didn't get that the reason you were calling him stupid is that he couldn't understand the simplest analogy and thought it was just cuz you disagreed with him

[@jcdelgado3727]

Anyone else get the pro life ad?🤣

[@CollagenExpert]

Hunter is on a role

[@jirojhasuo2ndgrandcompany745]

Conservative refardation is funny

[@maalrules]

A BUNCH OF GIBBERISH, once again😐

[@foramoreperfectamerica8490]

Hunter, congratulations, you found a Conservative to the Right of Antonin Scalia on this issue. Even Scalia said that Flag Burning is protected speech regardless of how we feel about it. Does this chuckehead of a caller know that?

[@nathanandsugar5252]

I have to go hard against Hunter on corporate censorship. Facebook, Twitter should be subject to common carry laws. This makes it so the moderators can only take down illegal content.

[@michaelk.jensen1611]

So NO social forum can make rules to further a very specific type of conversation style? All social media platforms, MUST be a free for all?

[@thedukeofburgundy7432]

Things was going good until Hunter turned full Reddit atheist, then I started cringing.

[@Youtubesuckscock]

Good I hope he'll do more often then just to spite you.

[@thedukeofburgundy7432]

@@KZbinsuckscock Nah cause I can sit and laugh at his cringe

[@MisterAHouse]

Hunter, I'm sorry, but these videos are TOO LONG!

[@pysduckfanforever]

I disagree

[@ottoernst6707]

Again he’s bi and in denial

[@theletterm1787]

M

[@mogscugg2639]

O R B I U S S W E E P

[@drcringe7873]

Hunter is such an aweful and immature person.

[@maddyc2412]

What is he in awe of?

[@vnine542]

One thing I’ve learned in politics 1. Never trust people like Hunter

[@runningbetweenspaces]

Very harder fascist

[@hopeintruth5119]

One thing I learned in politics. 1. Trust people like hunter as he is the epitome of facts dint care for feelings. He's literally bringing evidence abd analysis. If you don't have any. Don't bother debating as you will be talking out of your emotion and a*s.

[@Neon_Plasma]

🤡

[@hopeintruth5119]

@@chrisrevel2801 it's hilarious that you don't think studies and analysis are data. Which he brings up and you could look up yourself. Which I think you haven't. Stop listening propaganda/rhetoric and call it facts. Look at the very studies about it. At least do that.

[@hopeintruth5119]

@@chrisrevel2801 really? Have you read those studies? Again you haven't proven your point but state claims. Most data on this proves Hunters points. You say methodology then prove it. Instead of constantly finding excuses, antidotes, and claims to push ideology. Also even if it's made by activist the data can be right and we deduct parts of it that can be false. Instead you made a broad claim with no evidence or analysis to defend it. This is why why look ay you as someone who is far more politically charged and hyper partisan to the point tahtbyou can't see the very large holes in your claims and arguments.

[@JasonDrennen]

I heard the other day that this psychiatrist that talks to kids said half the kids he's talked to was either trans or gay. You can't tell me that there's not a movement pushing trans and gay propaganda to our children. When I was young there was one kid I knew just one that was actually trans. True trans where he had breast and a penis without hormones therapy. He had to make a decision on which way he wanted to go. He decided to go female. Nobody picked on him and they addressed him as her after all that. I say him now because I knew him when he was a boy where other people might have met him as a girl. Nobody cared but now it's pushed everywhere so all these kids think there's something they're not. True trans have x and y chromosomes. Maybe that's how it should work. If a doctor tests you and you have both chromosomes then you can pick your gender. But you can't just do it enchilantly to get attention in school. Anyways if half the kids are either gay or trans how do we sustain our population to be able to fight and protect this country in the future?

[@theodorevibritannia7988]

1. We have a term for the person you were describing, it is called intersex, not trans in the sense that we are using socially. In addition, you insisting on calling this person "him" while they has decided to be a woman - which was a decision that they MUST make in order to have a normal and fulfilling life - is rather disingenuous at best and downright bigotry at worst. 2. About your hearsay of what a psychiatrist have said, do you even consider for a single second that may be queers and trans people are looking for psychological help because of what their religious family are doing to them? In fact, were you to pick any random Christian (or Islamic) country on this planet, queers and trans people are OVERWHELMINGLY persecuted to damnation and beyond just for being what they are. To me it's no wonder that most of (if not all) them are seeking help because of what being done unto them by people like you, while you sat there, with a gigantic stick up your own rectum, thinking about meaningless conspiracies that don't follow any logic and rationale beside confirming your own biases.

[@Cory_Springer]

Cool anecdote. There's a reason personal anecdotes aren't the same as "actual data" though...

[@hopeintruth5119]

Cool story, where is the data and the analysis around that? If you can't find any than you must be just listening to propaganda and people with biases that allow you to be blind to actual issues happening in this world. 50% of kids aren't gay. Most teens I have met have been heterosexual. There are some I have met that are gay, bi, or curious. Transgender is one if the least I have seen or even heard about. To me it just sounds like people over exaggerate things about trans and gay folks. They are lgbtq kids but its not at an extremely high level that every other teen you see is identifying as it. If you say large claims, back it up.

[@syl3924]

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[@vermilion6966]

And Ive heard the other day that this psychiatrist that talks to kids said half the kids are praising a flying spaghetti mosnter.Very concerning See I can write bullsht like you do, its very easy