I had to ban DayZ "FAMILY" (verbal explanation only) - hardest Admin thing Ive done

[@TomatoKingRAW]

discord.gg/yVPXxUTQk3 COME PLAY WITH US! PC, 1PP, Chiemsee map, Official Replica. clothes, weapons, animals, usage tags, vehicles, all spawn rates...directly copied from Official code

[@selftransformingelfmachine6196]

This server is my home. I have hundreds of hours on it, and I love it here. I often stashed stuff in extremely hard-to-find places in the middle of the woods, and this team discovered everything. They found stashes that were literally invisible because of certain glitches. After that, I established a base very far away from their base, hidden in the middle of the woods. This team found it and leveled it. I was discouraged, but I knew that raids were part of the game. I had suspicions, so I placed a small base within 1000m of their base, hidden in the woods with two cars. My small base was raided the very next day, and the cars were gone. Over the months, I witnessed people and teams quit this server because their bases got leveled, but I decided to stay because I love this community. I was highly suspicious of beavers using ESP and voiced my concerns to the admin several times. I learned today that I was correct and that the beavers were not playing fairly. It hurts to see my arch-enemies banned, but it hurts even more to know that they did this to themselves by cheating. I fully support the admin team on this server. They are the most humble and honest admins any player could hope for. I appreciate their time and dedication to making every Dayz player's experience valid and meaningful. Good riddance to the beavers from squirrel.

[@TomatoKingRAW]

i am truly sorry i did not catch this sooner Elf. you are Family, just like i thought they were. thank you for sticking by me, even though i failed you. i will be better.

[@Afterthought419]

Cheating in DayZ is a complete waste for everyone involved. Duping, esp any of it takes away the adrenaline, anxiety and rush that we all get from this amazing game.

[@TomatoKingRAW]

it reminds me of oldschool 'game genie.' ya sure its wildly cool for the first hour...but after that, why even play anymore

[@s3any1977]

Absolutely. It totally defeats the object of the game. It takes away the challenge. I'm garbage at DayZ but it's that challenge of surviving longer and working out game mechanics that keeps me going back

[@Afterthought419]

​@@s3any1977 perfectly said

[@treycurran23]

I wish more dayz community servers had admins like you who actually give a fuck about their community. You sir are an absolute gem. Fuck that team, you'll get ppl back that are there to actually play the game how it's intended to be played.

[@TomatoKingRAW]

this vid is 4 months delayed...come see what we got goin on NOW :)

[@treycurran23]

@@TomatoKingRAW I take it this is a PC server?

[@TomatoKingRAW]

@@treycurran23 yep, we have the info in the description and pinned comment in all vids

[@xxJacket]

Most community admins are just scum and it’s sad

[@Afterthought419]

This guy seems like like kinda people. I'll be checking this server out today.

[@TomatoKingRAW]

afterthought...thats my in game admin name lol

[@AstaZeee]

I love that car throw at the end! 😂 Great job, you can be proud of yourself! 👊🏻

[@drunkskunk828]

There is so much work and things to consider/deal with when running a server. Hat off to you sir.

[@TomatoKingRAW]

being admin is all fun and games...until its not. sad hard day. wish it never came.

[@Shyft__]

Job well done bro, proud to be part (even a little) of the cleaning of the server.

[@TomatoKingRAW]

not done quick enough...but i will be better next time.

[@evs9404]

So these guys bullied their way through the server, whilst making sure to avoid any players using ESP hope they enjoy offical servers where they can play against their fellow cheaters

[@TomatoKingRAW]

i wanna feel as "matter of fact" as you do, i really do. and youre right. but damn...what id pay to never have to go thru this again...

[@evs9404]

@@TomatoKingRAW for sure i know it must be rough making decisions like that, just know genuine players who play dayz to have fun and chill out really appreciate the work that goes on behind the scenes to keep community servers fun and a fair place to play

[@TomatoKingRAW]

i really hope thats true. i dont play dayz anymore, i just manage a home for others. at first i really wanted to play again but now, im very satisfied with what im doing. i just want to be good at it, for everyone elses sake.@@evs9404

[@evs9404]

@@TomatoKingRAW hell yeah keep up the good work man i used to play alot of official servers until i realised how bad the cheating problem is on dayz, i just wanna fish and hunt and find some nice gear to die to wolves 😂

[@TomatoKingRAW]

when i first started playing dayz, it was official. everyone complained about cheaters but my group didnt see a SINGLE cheater for months. we thought everyone was blowing things up bigger than they were. then the cheaters came. every day. every official server we moved to. until we finally took the community leap@@evs9404

[@billymac3rdsDayzAdventures]

It’s a shame that server admins have to go through so much ^^%}{. Had my server public for less than 30 days and our bot has auto banned nearly 100 people. We are a bear hunting, PVE only no base raid server. People don’t get that.

[@TomatoKingRAW]

oh you mean they dont pay attention and just assume you can raid and pvp and what not? i always wondered why i see bans in my admin tools like "pvp in pve server" or "raided on a no raid server" like why would ppl even bother playing on a server where they cant do what they want to do?

[@KayJayDZ]

Love the comments on this, absolutely hilarious, made my day, they shall not be missed. To think I actually pulled you in and convinced tomato to give you a second chance, I thought "more fool me", but now everyone knows, not just public to other owners on CF, public to the players too, so...more fool you, think it may be time to call it quits lads, cheating is is lame as hell..... how trash do you have to be to cheat on a low pop server anyway..... this shit makes my day every single morning, thanks for the laughs in the comments btw, just about the only positive thing you contributed lol

[@moneyjordy]

Should build a pre-fab or watchtower with no steps/no visual to the top, like a water tower or something and hide loot inside of it. See if they take interest in it

[@TomatoKingRAW]

we dont get cheaters much, we are a 30 pop cap server bc our maps are half the size of official. we could always use new creative tips to catch ill-doers

[@EvonyUSA]

@@TomatoKingRAW pc or ps5? im down to join

[@TomatoKingRAW]

@@EvonyUSA pc, discord link is in description of every vid, and pinned comment in every vid, would love to see ya!

[@joshuapowell2516]

Does sound like it took a bit of time but whats important is the result and making the server as fair as it can be dont fully blame yourself for them ruining the game for others they are the ones to blame not you bro chin up and keep doing what your doing

[@TomatoKingRAW]

yeah...youre right but it still sucks. thx for the support

[@zx6angel978]

Sounds like you did the right thing, Tomato! I think it is great that you try to see the best in people and gave that Johnny guy a second chance. Good on you for admitting your mistake and rectifying the issue. Don't feel bad, you did good.

[@TomatoKingRAW]

thank you, i would like to think i did alright. of course i wish things were different...but they say ":hindsight is 20/20."

[@denniscrane9753]

You know you seem like a good man! I personally wouldn’t have apologized for banning them! Like it’s disgusting how people take advantage of other people’s kindness! Cheaters don’t stop cheating! Btw I enjoy your content! I always loved Anarchy’s cheater videos! Keep up the good work bro!

[@TomatoKingRAW]

i know ppl that have been wrongfully banned. ppl that have a 'proof video' that contradicts the exact same footage taken from the admins perspective, and it sucks to love a specific game so much and be wrongfully branded as a cheater, ending up in them not being able to play 70% of the community servers (CF based) ever again, just bc every admin sees "cheater ban" and re-banning, without any evidence.

[@HexKing12345]

good shit mello glad to see you are still the mayor of yappersville keep the grind up 🙏

[@TomatoKingRAW]

i keep runnin for re-election against no one, got this shit on lock

[@pone69]

Very thorough job well done, better to be safe than sorry! Sad that people like this are around, you gave them the benefit of the doubt, which was a very nice thing to do. I'm sure not many would have even bothered to take the time to listen in the first place. But the leopards spots stayed the same and you got stabbed in the back, despicable behaviour. I really struggle to see what they get out of playing like that, surely its no fun? Its interesting to me, i was thinking of trying teaming up, but now am sceptical as how would i know if they are or were cheaters? Im barely competent enough to stay alive, nevermind recognise cheating behaviour lol.

[@TomatoKingRAW]

dude...theres pain everywhere in this world...but you gotta keep your arms open. without love, all there is, is hate. thats no world to live in. someone in the future is going to hurt me. someone is going to hurt our server. but i cant become heartless. i will miss the good in ppl. "there would be no such thing as a Sunny day if it didnt Rain every once in a while"

[@zegikniet9999]

Cringe cheaters ruin everything. Literally everything. And for what?

[@TomatoKingRAW]

they do ruin everything, but the "and for what" part, i actually sympathize with some cheaters. theres a wide range of cheaters, many of them i can totally understand, and i get why they do it...while being 100% against it in every case. example...dudes got 4 kids and a wife, no free time to himself, not enough sleep...just has a couple hours a night to have a couple drinks and play the game he loves. spends 2.5 hours looting only to get domed without seeing a thing and he feels like he cant get any satisfaction in the very little free time he has. so he adds ESP bc he doesnt have the time it takes to invest in dayz to become better. he just wants a LITTLE happiness in his life. see...i get that. i understand the reasoning behind that. but im eternally against cheating in any form. And you can say "play another game then" and although thats true...dayz is something some cannot give up. i went from a variety gamer to JUST dayz. not interested in anything else.

[@zegikniet9999]

@@TomatoKingRAW i don't agree, at all. cheating is for losers. if u have kids n shit, then u should accept that these games are past time and know that when the kid is more grown up ul have more time.

[@TomatoKingRAW]

we are saying the same thing. im agreeing they ruin everything and im disagreeing with them making excuses for cheating, i just understand their though process.@@zegikniet9999

[@jask5097]

Dude it looks like you had all the evidence way before the Johnny and barrel situation. Trust your gut, fk cheaters!

[@TomatoKingRAW]

i know how you feel but i will absolutely never trust my gut by myself, that makes it the 'me' show and thats when lots of mistakes get made. there was never even any suspicion, not a single one (excluding Richard Nasty loot esp), until the "admin view to catch a cheater" vid, the first 'proof' that someone in johnnys team cheated. they logged off fairly fast after that. within a couple days when the team was back on and we were investigating the rest of them, that was the first time johnny was 90% cheating. so the investigation team logged off, then he got up and started working again, then we logged on, and he immediately went to defense without line of sight. i was sure but had to consult our other admin since this was my first rodeo. before he could get on, maybe a day or so, the barrels and then the vehicle dodging thing happened. nail in the coffin. i believe it was the next day but we immediately acted. the day after that was wipe day. btw i say 'excluding richard' bc it turned out i was actually wrong about him, via his hours of video proof.

[@Muddguppie1]

Love you brother!🤘🏽Keep it up!!!🤷🏽‍♂️👊🏽

[@TomatoKingRAW]

its a sad, hard day...but i will :)

[@ConfidentMelon]

The foresight to film setting up bait stashes and having johnny find them on record would’ve been an entertaining video and made a compelling case against him, “To Catch a Cheater” style

[@TomatoKingRAW]

ya its WAY harder than just thinking about a scenario and it perfectly working. when i built a bait base...it took hours before he found it. when i did bait stashes, it took days before he was in the area within 1000m. and when i put other bait stashes but in front of him where i thought he was going, he would change to the opposite direction. and when i placed 3 cars, he did nothing for 4 hours until i logged off and an hour later when i logged on, he was already on the 3rd car. i wish everything happened the way i wanted it to in my head but it doesnt. loot esp is one of the hardest cheats to prove

[@ConfidentMelon]

@@TomatoKingRAW unfortunate because that sort of content is ate up. I’ve practically binged AnarchyHD’s channel because he shows how cheaters get lazy and get caught

[@TomatoKingRAW]

@@ConfidentMelon ya, but im not tryin to be a youtuber or give ppl what they want or feed the algorithm or anything. its why nothing is edited, no thumbnails, etc. im just tryin to show our in game members what really goes down, and coincidentally these vids are watched by more than them. pretty cool to see tho, for sure.

[@coalninja2273]

Good Call. You got your info over time the right way. They are just salty bc they got busted! Lmao

[@TomatoKingRAW]

funny thing, when i banned 6 ppl (3 cheating, 3 playing w cheaters), only the two ppl 100% confirmed cheating w a previous ban of cheating did NOT try to defend themselves. case closed.

[@guysmiley4830]

I recently went on disability leave from my job with some broken bones and thought about starting Day Z to kill some time for the next 6 to 8 weeks. It sounds like the game might be too toxic / shitty to have any fun. Is there really no way to detect cheating besides playing detective as an admin? Why are so many people in the comments upset by these bans? If Tomato is telling the truth, it sounds pretty obvious that cheating is going down. Somebody give me a reason to start playing. I beg.

[@TomatoKingRAW]

regarding the negative comments, most of them are the ppl i banned. i can tell bc their YT names and accounts have similarities with their reddit accounts (they use to support our ads there) and similarities with their in game names that they change every couple days. we have records of all of that ;) regarding the game, there IS cheating. only real way to reduce that the most is to play low pop servers. like less than 10 ppl. it happens, its a part of it. there is software but its kinda useless the way cheats evolve so fast. definitely not being rude here but even if i DID convince you to play, there are 100 reasons a player might quit dayz anyway. its a steep learning curve and in a lot of cases, requires a tough skin. you can do ANYTHING in dayz. there are ppl that will betray. you could spend 500 hours building a base and one team comes in and takes all those hours from you. and then theres glitches bc the games not perfect. but check out the DayZ official discord. although biased, there are plenty of players that will tell you what they dont like about dayz.

[@thedeadwookie25]

It always sucks when this type of thing happens. cheaters poison everything they touch. Allowing any of them to come at all was a serious olive branch and mad respect for not shuttering the door just because of an accusation. These guys pushed their way in and were prepared to lie, cheat, and do whatever it took to proliferate their shitty fucking dayz experience on others. The worst type of people u find anywhere. No morals, no respect, just a single minded obsession with getting loot and not having to work for it. Insane. How many weeks did they play on the server? What were their stats? Hours played?

[@TomatoKingRAW]

a lot of time, and a lot of spectating

[@thedeadwookie25]

@@TomatoKingRAW I'm sure you've got a total somewhere, right? can u ballpark their hours?

[@robingoodfellow666]

I appreciate you tried to give them the benefit of the doubt, and that you tried to be thorough. Bottom line is, you made the wrong call here. I watched this entire video and nothing you listed here is "proof," as it claims-- instead, it appears to be textbook examples of confirmation bias. I don't think you acted maliciously, you had to make a tough call based on the information you had and the methods you used. They were just flawed, and the outcome is a mistake. Further, i think some of the folks cheering in the comments helped poison the well and make sure you made this mistake, because they didn't want this group competing with them next wipe. You've always struck me as reasonable--- I hope you realize this is a mistake and clear these guys' names. They won't want to come back to your server-- they clearly aren't wanted-- so the people cheering for their bans will still get what they want.

[@TomatoKingRAW]

im sorry you feel that way. a large part of me wants to convince every single person and show them every single video and prove my point but simply put, i dont have that time and i dont have to. aside from all of this, chiemsee is half the size as official servers. thats why we have a 30 player cap. and they were 12 of them and as of last night, i found out that number was at least 13, by their own team members admittance. theres NO competition when almost half the server is your team. from the very first day, i told them the player cap was 5. they fought and fought and fought and bc of a few reasons, i gave up. one of them being, they basically said "well if we cant play with all of our friends then we have to go somewhere else." ok. ive watched my server die 3x bc one team has a crushing monopoly and ive watched 7 other servers, including tsb livonia, heroz, cycle, adventurers livonia, get crushed due to an overwhelming monopoly. and if you know tsb chernarus, the main most popular vanilla server ever, for years a 20 man just wipes the server every couple weeks. no fun. i dont want that here.

[@robingoodfellow666]

Those server size and playerbase concerns are fair reasons to take whatever action you deem appropriate as admin to protect your server. They are not fair reasons to publicly accuse someone of hacking when they have not. Take care.

[@TomatoKingRAW]

indeed. thats the icing on the cake. i have what i have. not to mention the very SAME accusations i am making are literally identical bans they have on another server. same ppl too! what a co inkidink@@robingoodfellow666

[@robingoodfellow666]

So you have video proof, but decline to share it. Well, fair enough, I guess... But why go on to explain the team rule and server health? Better yet, why not title this video "I had to ban a "FAMILY" for breaking team size rules" and leave it at that, rather than claiming it's much worse and you have secret evidence you are unwilling to share? I'm not even disputing your right to ban people from your server, just to recklessly claim in writing you have "proof" of cheating when in the video you yourself acknowledge it's not proof-- just conjecture based on "experiments" held by people who seem to have a very specific outcome in mind. Again, I hope you clear their names of the false accusations when your conscience gets the better of you.

[@TomatoKingRAW]

well lets not forget as cool as it is that these vids are getting 1k-2k views, this was ONLY meant for members of the server to see. and they DO have the ability to see the proof. the 'not proof' guy where i saw constant examples, i banned him for exactly that...suspicion. any admin can see i dont have proof for that one. says so in the ban. the other two, the ESP guys, the proof is solid. viewing party in our discord for those who want closure on their cheating teammates, and as well for ppl not involved so they can see how conclusive the evidence was, so the new ppl who DONT know me will learn to trust our judgment like many of our other members have.@@robingoodfellow666

[@HaZal2d0uS]

While I’ve never been as admin of a dayz server, I have admin’d other servers and dealt with the challenge of growing them from nothing like you’ve done and imo your evidence gathering is ridiculously slow…way too much benefit of a doubt considerations being given. Sounded like you took 2+ weeks to determine a solution after finally noticing the suspicious activity?! You listed so many examples. I know taking too long to deal with cheaters on other servers would always be a massive blow to short-term activity. Live and learn!

[@TomatoKingRAW]

besides the fact that it was our first cheaters ever, in over 6 months, there were plenty of pieces of this 'evidence' that was disproven with video. luckily, the so called 'slow' decision had absolutely no negative impact on the server. dozens were relieved, compensated, and started playing harder than ever. we were very fortunate.

[@Christian-fo5nx]

So YOU let a suspected cheater have a 12 man on a 5 man only server until it became too obvious they were cheating? Looks like the admins failed the player base

[@TomatoKingRAW]

"So YOU let a suspected cheater" - no, falsly accused. we had the admin vid from the server he was banned from, and we had his vid, admin vid was edited to look a certain way "have a 12 man on a 5 man only server" - no, 5 man wasnt a rule, it was requested, and the request was nullified after 3 teams pushed hard to have more than 5 so we let it happen "until it became too obvious they were cheating?" - no, there were absolutely zero signs of cheating regarding player esp until the vid i posted titled something like "to catch a cheater" and we verified the proof and enforced the bans in less than a week. only suspected cheating before that was loot esp, which ended up to be false after watching hours of that players personal uncut videos. but yes, admins can fail. not like we have a 4 year degree from Admin School or anything

[@steviebeavy9444]

So used to love northmen, but ever since I heard about the admin abuse, it's not worth playing there to get shared ban , so even if the rumors aren't true fuck that if I can't play dayone I'd cry cause I killed the wrong guy

[@TomatoKingRAW]

ya i get you. ive not seen anything there myself but i cant stop hearing about it.

[@Gerald-c6v]

cheater is always they will never play legit it’s too hard for them to because of some deep reasons they have to always win be the best of everyone no matter the cost. It gos back to their morals taught to them by their parents and grandparents. I have played games from the start of gaming back when pong came out. I’m 64 years old never cheated in any game. I love dayz but I too quite official servers because of cheaters. I would log in in bushes to get shot within 2 seconds. I play Pve servers now . I have been killed well over 100 times and only shot 1 player in 8 years on dayz. I have great respect for you admin doing all your work. Shouldn’t have to have admin having to police this game but there will always be cheaters Thank for your story and keep up the good work. 😊😊

[@TomatoKingRAW]

if it wasnt for cheaters, i would never have created a server and given up playing. id still be a player. luckily, i LOVE what i do now.

[@hazmatt4637]

Man blocked Brazil. Not just a few Brazilians, the whole dang country. That's a hell of a ban.😂

[@TomatoKingRAW]

ya its pretty common for server owners to do, and we never started that way. i will say tho, banned players like brazilians can still try to load into the server, it gives us an alert to their profile, and MOST times they have such a long cheater record its ridiculous. sometimes, some brazilians are totally clean and we 'whitelist' them so they can play

[@KimJung-un4747]

No short version. I could have summarised this in one sentence.

[@TomatoKingRAW]

for random viewers, sure. but for my entire server where most knew these guys, i think ill keep my version.

[@Lkilkenny]

I've heard many stories coming out of northmen about banning people. Even some friends of mine who i for sure know weren't cheating. Not sure how they manage to push their bans through CF.

[@TomatoKingRAW]

if a server has CF and they place a ban, you can keep it local (your server) or public (anyone who uses CF). you write a reason for the ban and everyone can see it. small servers might investigate but SUPER popular server sets like northmens or spaggies or DayOne...they get 20-50 tickets a day...they cant investigate to the end of time. the hard part is, ive heard the northmens stories also and it seems like there might be some merit to wrongful bans...but every REAL cheater would HAPPILY cry wrongful ban to hide among the wrongfully accused. thats what happened here, unfortunately, and im the idiot.

[@modelrailwaynoob]

No one ever knows for sure people aren’t cheating. That’s a daft thing to say

[@TomatoKingRAW]

you cant 100% know ppl are NOT cheating, but you CAN know 100% if ppl are.@@modelrailwaynoob

[@modelrailwaynoob]

@TomatoKingsRAW-ps5px Yes I agree. I was disagreeing with the comment above where the person said they knew, "for sure" that someone wasn't cheating.

[@TomatoKingRAW]

oh my bad, i see now@@modelrailwaynoob

[@GustavoHeinlein]

You said (5) maximum. They went to (12) As soon as they hit (6) you should have jumped all over them. You tried to be fair, they abused your kindness. This is the worst kind of betrayal.

[@TomatoKingRAW]

literally when they went to 6, i DID jump all over them bc our discord was like "what? AGAIN?" bc we had another big team a month or so earlier. i raised the concerns, we came up w a 5 man rule, then i found the previous violating team AND TWO OTHER TEAMS ABOVE 5 that knew better and still did it so i threw my hands up and was like "screw it...you guys wanna do huge teams? fine. go do it." then the server died AGAIN, all parties involved were like "ok...we get it now" so on wipe, we put a hard 5 man cooperation rule.

[@GustavoHeinlein]

@@TomatoKingRAW From reading the comments, what I gather as being the primary animus, is that - they took advantage of your good will. Which is horrible, because you seem to have moved on and no doubt you'll still be willing to offer the benefit of the doubt in the future to different players claiming unfair banning. But... It might make you also less likely - which is sad because it creates a grim sense of distrust when 'cheaters' take advantage of good hearted people.

[@TomatoKingRAW]

@@GustavoHeinlein i am a good guy and i will NOT let bad guys change me. i will NOT. i am who i am and that is not going to change

[@GustavoHeinlein]

@@TomatoKingRAW That's the spirit. Because 'cheaters' idiots and 'bad guys' they only win, if they change your world view, if you become grim, sour and bitter because of their malice, then that is a victory for the knob heads. But, if you remain cool, and just brush of their stupidity as a mild life inconvenience, but remain a good hearted soul, then the cheater loses twice. They lose, because they'll be on Official servers for eternity. They lose, because they had ZERO effect on your good natured heart. Good man, keep going.

[@ancientgruntgaming6646]

I think I had these same fools on my server and had to give them the boot as well, seems like the same mode of operations and names.

[@TomatoKingRAW]

would love to confer w you if you like, share info. hit up the discord link and dm me

[@ancientgruntgaming6646]

@@TomatoKingRAW sent you a dm

[@glerapyglapman4411]

Cheaters? Goodbye. Won’t be missed.

[@TomatoKingRAW]

i miss the guys that quit over the cheaters success. yeah, sure...lots of dayz players are soft and quit after a few deaths or a base being raided...but when its done by a cheater and they quit...who knows, if the cheaters didnt cheat them, maybe the innocent would have played for another 100 hours and fallen in love w dayz and stayed. i gotta stop thinking about this lol

[@ModernSpartan14]

That is facts. Cheaters ruin every game if they are for sure cheating it’s safe to just get rid of them before they do get to loose to many people to cheaters getting to them.

[@TomatoKingRAW]

hopefully i reacted in time@@ModernSpartan14

[@ModernSpartan14]

@@TomatoKingRAW I can’t say anything about your server I was just here to watch the video, I’m an admin on a different server but I was just stating in general blatant cheaters always ruins good servers so I agree I hope you did catch the cheaters in time so you didn’t lose anybody in the server that’s been there a while or generally likes the server a lot until cheaters come in. I don’t even get the point of cheating it takes all the fun out of it.

[@TomatoKingRAW]

youre totally right and i hope i caught it in time but i dont think you ever do. theres always someone that quit that just isnt in the discord and you never know about it. i havent been admin that long so my opinions are based on limited experience. this vid was the first time i had to ban anyone i cared about.@@ModernSpartan14

[@aidandedecker4246]

Wow rick grimes plays with the cheaters too

[@edithboozy1000]

Blocking the entire country of Brazil is wild 😂

[@TomatoKingRAW]

ya, lots of servers do it to brazil, china, and russia by default but our default was not blocking any countries...until we got dozens and dozens of cheaters from 2 of those countries, banned the countries, and 99% of the cheaters stopped coming. we will make exceptions for brazilians if they come to us with their steam id and we can check them out w admin tools tho

[@DemonicAngelKiller]

lol this guy is a dirty cheater you should ban them some people might say you should ban the clan all 12 of them but then some inocent noob might get band too lol hard job keep up the good work. dayz does not need cheaters

[@TomatoKingRAW]

what you mean, how so?

[@DemonicAngelKiller]

@@TomatoKingRAW if they let a new guy join he could be a noob but i dont think so in this case you have been watching them all they all knew he or they were cheating

[@DemonicAngelKiller]

@@TomatoKingRAW a friend of mine had his own server here in south africa but he had to let it go because trying to please everyone was just to many headaces

[@TomatoKingRAW]

@@DemonicAngelKiller incorrect. cheaters RARELY tell their team theyre cheating. they want to appear as if they are very good. and most of the time it doesnt matter how much youre watching someone...they can turn their cheats on and off. player ESP for example. lots of cheaters play like normal w no cheats until they start hearing shots or start getting their ass kicked. then they flip the cheats on, get a kill, and flip cheats off. no admin can SEE that. unless of course you can see a player chasing another player without even being able to see him. even then, you would have to see the victim change multiple directions and the 'cheater' follow without being able to see him. and THEN you would have to get a second example or more. you cant just ban ppl bc you THINK theyre cheating. too much dayz coincidence.

[@TomatoKingRAW]

@@DemonicAngelKiller damn...trying to please everyone was a mistake.

[@skullbones7452]

Next time, record it all and make a video out of it. Cheaters never quit cuz they never lose.Unless they get banned.

[@hazmatt4637]

Why aren't you showing these videos? Cheaters need to be fully exposed.

[@TomatoKingRAW]

i did show one of them, its called "To Catch a Cheater" but some of them corrupted. i might consider throwing a few more up. but server owners can see the times theyve been banned, what for, and the proof so they will know

[@saltyseadogcooper2539]

it can be a hard job

[@TomatoKingRAW]

i wish i could turn my emotions off when it comes to this type of thing.

[@saltyseadogcooper2539]

@@TomatoKingRAW That was my issue.

[@SillaShooter]

Why not show the proof they are cheating? Great explanation of the situation.

[@TomatoKingRAW]

bc it wasnt for the whole world to see. i showed the members interested in seeing.

[@modelrailwaynoob]

So that was their base I broke into yesterday for a 4x4 to take up the mountain. I am disappointed in you. Your behaviour has ruined the fun for lots of people. Cheats don’t change. This puts me off playing this server.

[@iceni8066]

What a weird collection of sentences you’ve managed to cobble together.

[@modelrailwaynoob]

@@iceni8066 If you think that, you need some English lessons. Are you one of the cheats?

[@iceni8066]

Am I one of the cheats? Don’t be trying the English lessons comeback with English like that, lol. I despise cheaters, they ruin games, I actually agree with one of your comments, cheaters don’t change, they’re fundamentally dishonest people who will spin all kinds of stories to admins, like they have in this situation. I imagine once he was green lighted to play the server, he played legit for a week or two knowing the admin would be watching, then reverted to, or brought in his esp buddy once he felt he could get away with it.

[@TomatoKingRAW]

i only know when i know. see, you play for hours and love the game. i have to sit at my comp and watch a bunch of nothing going on for hours and hours. every day. and i have a job. and i sleep. even if i watched 8 hours a day, i have to convince TWO OTHER PPL to sit and security guard watch for the other two 8 hour shifts...every day...forever. official has no admins, you never find out. and i needed real proof, like northmens didnt do. if you dont want to play the server anymore, i get it. but i dont understand me banning cheaters on the server youre playing on and THATS why you dont wanna play.

[@modelrailwaynoob]

@TomatoKingsRAW-ps5px It's because you let known cheats play. It's because you stated a max team of 5 and they said OK and then had 12 but still they were allowed to play on. Teams that big are clearly going to ruin it for everyone else. The most I have seen on the server is 7. I wouldn't want 6 of those to be one team. When I saw the size of their bases, I was suspicious of them. I was an admin, so I know the work involved. I stopped doing it because the owner who I really liked, did something similar and fair players suffered for it.

[@pvpaaron0976]

I would play but I rather play pve server with mods. Sorry my man keep up the great work though.

[@TomatoKingRAW]

i would love to visit!

[@CaptainNeo727]

“Wrongfully banned” never really sounds correct

[@TomatoKingRAW]

i got you tho. what are your thoughts?

[@CaptainNeo727]

@@TomatoKingRAW it just feels like the default story of someone about to be banned on the current server lol

[@TomatoKingRAW]

@@CaptainNeo727 ominous lol ya we put this vid out after it was already handled. just for member closure really.

[@ggomez4573]

Are any of these servers PVE I cannot kill other players.

[@TomatoKingRAW]

they are not, but they are low to medium pop. if you dont want to encounter people, you really dont have to most of the time. and you can always be a part of a team where your job is not in the field, like i use to do. base builder, stash organizer, ninja looter, things like that. but loss in dayz is critical to truly experience dayz. id ask you to reconsider going to a PvE server, in general.

[@ggomez4573]

Thanks Tomato King i will re think my choices over. I was born into DayZ on official L.A. servers and understand the pure adrenaline and thrill of the hunt, and the sadness of the loss. Would not mind trying it out if possible. I will join the Discord asap.

[@TomatoKingRAW]

i can get into vc w you and find out what type of server youre looking for. if its not ours, we have great suggestions!@@ggomez4573

[@ggomez4573]

@@TomatoKingRAW Roger that I was going to see if there was a FAQ on your Discord to not bother you. I play on xbox s and use GEforce for pc games. Im really just looking for a small piece of land to farm and raise a family on. Ty for your time.

[@TomatoKingRAW]

no problem, and we WANT ppl to bother staff, i think its a big part of what makes us different than most staff. relationship with the players.@@ggomez4573

[@AZB2000]

You're a glorified online janitor

[@TomatoKingRAW]

YES lol i love that!

[@DarwinnianTheGreatish]

I love me a good eviction

[@TomatoKingRAW]

JESUS lol you want a job? i really dont like swinging the Executioners Axe lol

[@darthioan]

Most admins do not spend nearly as much time to ban people for blatant esping. And what you are describing is trailer trash levels of blatant. These imbeciles were flat out cheating, and our enjoying themselves dumping all over your server. Ages 14-24, and the emotional intelligence of a fish. I am betting 10 bux their life achievement revolved around that stupid base, while everyone else hated themselves. In my opinion, you need to ban right immediately once suspicious play is detected, and they can appeal afterward, like everyone else handles this. You are hurting your server by treating this as if it was a court of law, and the standard is beyond any reasonable doubt. No, for the sake of everyone else, which is the majority of players, the standard should merely be: more likely this rather than that, and they can appeal. Also, never ever tell cheaters how you caught them. You are only teaching them how to avoid detection in the future.

[@TomatoKingRAW]

ya its tough. they were not detected until very late, even after watching them dozens of times. most cheaters turn their cheats on and off regularly. they turn them on when theyre doing VERY important missions, and then right back off. or they turn them on when theyre getting their ass handed to them. when they WERE detected, we ran a series of tests within a week or so and the other evidence came mostly from them reacting to admins and staff, not players. youll see the first 'blatant' cheating we were aware of soon. its titled "To Catch A Cheater." they never did anything CLOSE to that before.

[@darthioan]

@@TomatoKingRAW I feel you and I do not envy your position. It is hard work and tons of patience. Looking forward to the video.

[@TomatoKingRAW]

@@darthioan so THIS vid that we are commenting on, its the ONLY vid ive ever posted out of order so THIS vid actually happened AFTER the "To Catch A Cheater" vid youre about to see this week. but i HAD to address my server right away so i recorded it and posted it immediately. does that make sense?

[@darthioan]

@@TomatoKingRAW Yes, thank you.

[@InbredJed82060]

You're getting too power hungry. Leaving this lame server

[@TomatoKingRAW]

understood. we have always said, "we just want everyone to find their DayZ home, even if it isnt here with us"

[@Jen-br5hx]

brooooo... what a trash comment. dudes humble as hell

[@TomatoKingRAW]

cant help but think this is one of the 7 that got banned. 4 of the 7 either admitted guilt, or admitted something fishy was going on in the ranks, or at the very least are still having civil convos w me. that only leaves 3 others... i cannot IMAGINE a random other member NOT involved in this at all is leaving OUR server over cheaters getting banned. definitely interesting.

[@TomatoKingRAW]

you have no idea how much i needed this. i know dayz is just a game...but sometimes...its so much more than a game@@Jen-br5hx

[@InbredJed82060]

@@TomatoKingRAW you became admin because you're not skilled at the game and were forced to take on a different role. Everyone says that about you. Insecure.

[@lukejones6813]

admin. ban ban ban ban ban ban, thats why your server is empty now.

[@TomatoKingRAW]

thats what the last 2 groups said. and i took that into account. i looked at the last 3 weeks of all 12 of them, added all of their hours together...not even 100 hours. only a couple "played." more like, AFK in their towers on a server they almost 50% dominate by being half the pop cap, or they were filling seachests so they could start on wipe day and dominate the server from now until november. btw id rather have a dead server for a couple weeks than put up with cheaters and ppl that go against the rules (team max 5) since literal day one. if i never made an exception for them on that rule AFTER they broke it, they wouldnt be here to ban anyway. check battlemetrics in a couple weeks. we are rank 1059 now.

[@lukejones6813]

@@TomatoKingRAW ban ban ban ban ban! thanks for the offer but no thanks i will probably get banned for going to the toilet

[@pvpaaron0976]

​@@lukejones6813Just follow the fucking rules and don't cheat simple.

[@opossumgrylls3275]

​@lukejones6813 start your own server, fool.

[@edawgtroll]

@@lukejones6813 you were one of the cheaters?😂