I HATE This about The BICYCLE INDUSTRY!

[@GCPerformance18]

At the end of the day they will sell the first ones that trickle in slowly, but still to me I have no idea why the industry does this with release dates with no products on hand to buy when they aim these at consumers for massive price points

[@blackjackpinoko]

Colnago was sold to an Abu Dhabi-based private investment firm in 2020. I guess they have a very different business model than in the West.

[@galenkehler]

You cant justify a 500% markup on bikes if you just make them available to readily buy 😂

[@diehardbikes]

Its unfortunate that January is actually a pretty fast estimate. Even April isn't that bad back in 2022

[@hippiebits2071]

IMHO they shouldn’t announce a release until the product is in stock at the warehouse and available to dealers. If they want to announce a pre-order thru dealers ahead of release, with the customer’s only expectation being first in line at the time of release, that might be a better way to go. Someone is far more likely to speak and feel positively about something when they feel ahead of the game rather than left waiting in limbo. *edit for clarity

[@galenkehler]

@hippiebits2071 totally agree. Making this announcement now just means that by the time we actually see these bikes they're last year's news. Someone shows up to a race or ride and we're all like "oh you got that bike they brought out back in 2024?"

[@danielsemyonov]

16k interest free loan AFTER getting fleeced with a 10k markup - thats a big NO THANK YOU

[@kpblasko]

You do realize this is an incredibly low volume bike, right? Like, they have to recoup years of R&D labor by well-paid engineers, tons of prototypes, expensive tooling that will likely only be used a few hundred times. Of course there has to be a $10k markup. This is how businesses work.

[@michaelg8168]

@@kpblaskoWRONG! /s

[@NoahStephens]

Yeah! And when will they make affordable Ferraris?!

[@danielsemyonov]

@@kpblasko chill bud they are not giving you one for free, you can defend someone else😊

[@Jacob99174]

Getting wool covered!?

[@zonoskar]

Pay 16k now, get in April and could have gottin in august for 9k because next years model is announced with a slightly different color. That's the problem.

[@Mapdec]

So right Grant. The supply chain is a mess. Waiting on so many brands to deliver parts. By the time the bike is ready, The wheels or groupset will be out of date.

[@jamesmckenzie3532]

You are so correct Paul. I loved how I had to wait six months for a 2013/14 S-Works Roubaix due to SRAM hydraulic brake issue. This is a continuing issue. This needs to end.

[@cup_and_cone]

I would say the main issue is so many of these bike companies are struggling to stay afloat that they simply lack the liquidity to go ahead and order product, then warehouse it before launch, ready to ship to dealers. Most brands probably need the pre-orders to use that money to pay suppliers and stay above water. I doubt many Western brands can easily order $30 million in product on credit anymore, given how many still have large sums of debt.

[@Mapdec]

@@cup_and_cone excellent point.

[@jamesmckenzie3532]

@cup_and_cone We are going to witness several long term brands go under this year. Canyon almost died but somehow received a cash infusion to stay afloat. I'm speaking of brands that were established when I was young. Specialized looks like a good victim, but they might squeak through.

[@larryt.atcycleitalia5786]

@@cup_and_cone Colnago's owners have nothing BUT petro-dollars. What is it that prevents you from understanding this? IMHO it's almost a money-laundering issue for them though their money is "earned" legally....unless you count raping-the-earth as a crime.

[@gazmo147]

So true. Having worked for a dealer that sold all the big brands it’s so frustrating, and brand managers say “we are trying to create hype and exclusivity around the product” the industry needs to realise we aren’t selling supercars, these aren’t investments or things for social media clout. Riders want to ride, they will buy what they can ride not what they have to wait for.

[@GCPerformance18]

yea it sucks and also it is not something that is that special there are so many other brands who have bikes ready to go in that price range too so people are just ready to look else where

[@timowen5772]

It’s a Colnago thing! Colnago and lead time = min 6 months. I’ve had both a V3RS & a C68. The V3 (which I ordered just before the v4 was released) took 6 months. The C68 took 3 months. On a very positive note, I just ordered an Orbea Orca. They made the frame, custom painted it, & shipped it around the globe in 2 weeks!

[@slowcyclist4324]

Depends on your distributor 😂. My local Orbea distro would tell you it’ll take half a year earliest, then throw a tantrum when you import it in yourself with the week.

[@larryt.atcycleitalia5786]

Yeah, ORBEA...are the petro-sheiks lining up to buy them? Marketing, marketing, marketing.

[@lambertduong6490]

Yeah, this can vary depending on your region. Colnago USA doesn't seem to have be as efficient as Colnago Italy. I got my C68 in a month, but I imported it from an Italian shop that built it up for me.

[@radtony1720]

Availability is why I bought a Litespeed and built up a Seka Spear. These bike companies SUCK! Not gonna give your company a 6 month 0% interest loan…

[@Ober1kenobi]

For real, this point right here. There needs to be some changes to the legalities. As he mentioned, Apple, and they're not short of their own lawsuits, but again, product availability. That 16,000 could have accumulated for me nearly $600 in interest. Which is a "Free" component upgrade, but no, we have to trust these companies. One just had to hope they don't go bankrupt etc whilst youre waiting for your bike

[@larryt.atcycleitalia5786]

Yeah, like the petro-sheik owners NEED a loan? Get real.

[@Yamaha_Bolt]

Just fyi your review of the Yoeleo wheels convinced me to buy. We have Yoeleo Canada and they honoured your code even though it's not technically available in Canada. All in $1317 CAD. Service has been 10/10 Patrick Lino and you should know the Canadian Yoeleo has really stepped up the customer service.

[@dcv9460]

Bike prices are HILARIOUS 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@ariffau]

Nah, our salary is.

[@ItachiUchiwa2025]

😆​@@ariffau

[@javiersantiago7642]

No one not get paid to ride a bike should be investing that kind of money for a bike...

[@GCPerformance18]

It happens all the time where I am from. But that’s the problem. The rich who have that money. Want stuff now. They will take that money and put it into a new hobby or something

[@andrewcockburn7484]

No one getting paid to ride a bike will be getting the bill.

[@larryt.atcycleitalia5786]

Nobody should buy a Ferrari either? How 'bout a Richard Mille watch? Who put you in-charge of this s__t? I'm sure if you were rich you'd still be riding the POS you're riding now and giving all the rest to charity.

[@rangersmith4652]

@@larryt.atcycleitalia5786 How do you know he's not rich and just wiser than the average new-money jerk wad?

[@Timtimzi]

Finally someone who understands. Top end flagship bikes are hard to get right away. Pinarello is famous for half a year lead time . Ask me how I know 😅

[@georgehinds9104]

YOU are spot on my man. The bike industry needs to do something about this. It's annoying to us the consumer. They put a brand out, we as consumer wants to buy the bike, all of a sudden it takes 6 months. Thats crazy!

[@Ober1kenobi]

I don't buy $16,000 bikes However, for me at my local store, Giant is generally half decent at this. There's still a wait, but it's more like 6 weeks.

[@duffyrides]

Great video man. It definitely is frustrating that some manufacturers do this. I noticed that Trek and Specialized don’t seem to have that issue. The same day the new Madone came out all over KZbin , I checked with a shop in Florida and they already had them.

[@GCPerformance18]

yea trek killed it with there launch but specialized it was the same thing with the sl8 it was so hard to get at first tasking us like two or three months to get a frame in stock and it was only one frame so we lost out on customers but they kept alot of there frames online to sell to consumers direct

[@TheRideXperience]

I completely understand where you’re coming from. As a Colnago dealer, I’ve had customers show immediate interest on the Y1Rs but as soon as I mentioned the potential wait time ”maybe April” it quickly turned them away.

[@GCPerformance18]

yea exactly, its not like some wont come back when the bike comes available, but it is so hard to sit there and say to secure it with full payment or deposit because things change, like delivery dates or family emergencies in that time

[@larryt.atcycleitalia5786]

"Turned them away" as in they walked out OR bought something else? Sounds like they decided to wait...and my guess is that's just fine with the folks in Cambiago and in the UAE.

[@Stealthwealth1001]

Tadej will win races on this bike and cyclists who race and buy race bikes know that it’s not because Colnago have a new revolutionized aerodynamic bike. Racers spend money on their physical performance first, travel to races second, nutrition third, what’s left over goes towards the bike. I rely on used bikes and parts to race due to cost.

[@charliedillon1400]

Tadej would also win races in 2025 on a 2015 bike.

[@markmcinnes8244]

Racers don’t pay for bikes

[@elviracatherinetalaoc2070]

This bike looks weird

[@aaronhamlen8215]

$9K for a bike, no way. upgrade if you can or buy used . I waited months for my car in 2022. If the companies don't have the bicycles available, how can you take a down/full payment?

[@Rose.Of.Hizaki]

or buy used and upgrade 🥳🥳

[@paxundpeace9970]

9 Grand is a great price for used bike. Jokes. Considering how many top Consumer bikes get sold between upper mid range 3000 and 7500 dollar. 15 or 18 Grand doesn't sound that bad. No sane person would buy it you need a truckload of money anyway.

[@stephenbrown1136]

Diggin the industry insider insights content. Helps me have better sense of awareness when I stop in a local shop.

[@TroggyPK]

what makes it even worse, is these media outlets end up knowing more than the shops actually selling the bikes WAYYY before the shops even know these bikes are coming to market. its a an absolute mess. really they need to not be releasing and announcing 2025 bikes in mid fucking june 2024.

[@JeanFrancoisDesrosiers]

Yes! Worst: this marketing work, sponsors, etc costs at least 50pct of the retail cost, in the end paid by us, then letting us frustrated negating their own market milking with ridiculous delays. Uber incompetence. I encourage happily the chinese guy's sweat that happened before asking my money.

[@larryt.atcycleitalia5786]

You should teach them a lesson...by not buying one. But you were gonna do that anyway...no matter when the thing was previewed OR delivered. Fauxtrage I think it's called?

[@LaBestiaHumanaMX]

good point. Why release bikes that won't be available for a few months?

[@GCPerformance18]

they lookse the hype and wind behind there sails

[@BrianMcDonald]

With a bike like the Colnago, it would be acceptable to wait till mid march if it meant that you would get a truly customized bar stem where you gave your fit information and they made handlebars for you that put the shifters at your exact position while preserving the slammed stem look, and it would have your ideal bar width/bar flare/having a short or long drop extension. This should be normalized for all high end bikes and it's shameful that the metrics of customization in the industry is so limited.

[@michaelg8168]

Project One enters chat

[@BrianMcDonald]

@@michaelg8168 are they offering/manufacturing custom made handlebar/stems that accommodate for stack height or do you still have to utilize spacers?

[@paxundpeace9970]

You wouldn't ride until March/April either except you life down under or reside on the sunny side.

[@galenkehler]

Those 16k bikes are for the whales who don't really care about riding. Apparently there are lots of bikes on store floors ready to ride (if youtube personalities are to be believed)

[@tbcuprat]

2022 Scott Addict Gravel 20. Ordered August 2021 - Delivered November 2022. (Europe). This needs to change! They have had years to fix this but haven't.

[@paxundpeace9970]

This was crazy during the pandemic.

[@mmurmurjohnson2368]

Hope you're paying attention Big-S. Venge time baby! Let's get back to business. Let's go 💪

[@Luke-c]

Exactly!!! The new Venge will be insane

[@fabianmolyneux2308]

I now when I purchased a C60 Colnago it was a 6 week wait for the frame only and then I had to spec out saddle, groupset, handlebars, wheels etc etc. I think it’s even worse now as all the additional spec-outs all have their own time-line deliveries. Nothing has been right since before Covid. Stock-lines are just hit and miss. Having a good bike shop that understands the client and is able to guide in the process is critical. At the end of the day you rely on them for getting a bike optimised to perform at its best. If you know you’ll get that result at the end of the wait, it makes it more bearable

[@robbiek4400]

So glad to hear you say this. It’s total bs and ESPECIALLY with the Italians. I went through this with my Oltre RC frame. 7 months and a million follow up calls. Room so long the BMC came out and I tried to get that. 6months maybe. Tried the Scott 6months. That was 2023. Bianchi finally came in and is amazing but I am never ever going through this kind of thing again.

[@davetravis8994]

Similar story to some of the others. In April 2021 ( yes, I know it was Covid so that had something to do with it. ) I ordered a Trek Emonda SL6 with Rival AXS, beautiful crimson color. Delivery date was moved out at least three times. Fortunately LBS never asked for a deposit. Almost a year and half later I called Trek directly to inquire about the bike and they said we're not making that color any more ??? I call my LBS to ask and they said yes. we just got that info. as well. To their credit they said you've waited long enough and we can get you the SLR ( the next level of carbon ) and get you a Project One and give you a discount and we can have it here in a week and a half. Needless to say they treated me very well but wasn't too pleased with Trek.

[@nerigarcia7116]

It's not just cycling, that's how premium luxury items work-custom bike, luxury home, supercar, Hermés handbag, etc. Heck, I've been waiting for the VW id.Buzz to show up in the US for over 5 years and it was presented long ago, and available in Europe already. If you want the latest, the finest, the luxury, the custom, you have to be willing to wait. Otherwise, get something that is a production item. I bought a custom steel Speedvagen, dropped a lot of money into it, waited about 4 months, but it's the nicest riding bike I own, and a one of a kind bike. I bought the Bianchi Oltre XR4 when it first came out. I had to wait a few months but again, it was one of my favorite bikes. There are plenty of bikes out there but the luxury ones will require a wait, that's how it becomes premium. It's different if they hold out for marketing purposes but I suspect the new Colnago takes time for production purposes. There are probably only a handful in existence at this time and once they ramp up production, it'll be more readily available, but also lose a little of it's panache. Scarcity lends to luxury and exclusivity.

[@cup_and_cone]

To be fair, the auto industry does the same thing... Product launch and then first deliveries are several months out with a dealer pre-order. The difference is most people are buying a car to keep for several years, likely as their primary transportation... Bicycle buyers are making sporadic impulse buys for something they'll sell off in a couple years and don't really need, so not having a product is ruining that spur of the moment purchase for dealers.

[@littlegoobie]

sort of. a lot of car buyers waiting on later deliveries are also waiting on custom builds with hand picked colors inside and out, different interiors, different engine/chassis options and trim levels. ...a bike is a bike is a bike.

[@simon1cz]

I experienced the same thing. But with an American brand for Europe, the Trek brand and their then-released Madone SL6 GEN7 priced at over 6 thousand dollars. Bike ordered in October 2023 and delivered in May 2024. Unbelievable waiting time of 8 months. Disappointment after delivery. Terrible assembly, missing parts and damaged paint. I still took over the bike, I didn't have another one and the season was already running. And the point is, after one season (exactly 6 months of use) I can say that I really don't need a modern and super aero bike. Next time I won't buy a rabbit in a bag.

[@tomrodriguez9052]

Everybody is talking about how different and cutting edge the Conago is but all I see a Cervelo S5 with an uglier seatpost setup. Is there a function to that seat post ?

[@JimUe1]

just watched peaktorque's video talking about that, my take aways from his comments: 1) horizontal, rather than sloping, top tube increases stiffness; & 2) the sloping seat post angle increases the length, which increases 'deflection', which i took to mean compliance.

[@realmagnetics799]

Thats because cervelo did the optimization before Colnalgo. This bike affirms Cervelos engineering. The Y shaped seat tube is kind of silly cause it increases the surface area exposed to the air compared to cervelo. Even in the white paper colnalgo gets almost identical results to cervelo

[@DaveCM]

It looks like an S5 and 3T Strada had a love child

[@tbone-ip5fi]

You're absolutely right; the bike industry has been like this for years. Happened to the the two last times I ordered a bike (several months of delays). Makes me think that the bike industry is an unprofessional industry.

[@oldie9090]

Got a new Canyon Endurace. Ordered online Wednesday, got it the following day. Great experience with Canyon.

[@GCPerformance18]

wow, nice one!!

[@christopherbrown9618]

I’ve pretty much become used to this waiting game with the bike market. And for me I don’t mind waiting because that way I don’t have to drop a significant amount all at once. I can pay in increments until it comes in. I’m currently waiting on two bikes, and one of them I’ve been waiting since August. So for me I’m a patient customer, but I definitely understand from the other perspective of customers who want everything right away.

[@simonwoodthrillerwriter]

I went through this with Specialized for a crash replacement. After a year of waiting, my local bike shop still couldn't tell me a delivery date. I got my deposit back and bought 2ndhand bike privately.

[@anthonyhebert-trudeau6995]

Yes that’s valid. I would actually buy more bikes and frame if they were available when they are announced but they never are. On another subject, you can buy a car with a 6-18 months waiting period by putting in a 500$ refundable deposit so the bike industry has no reason to ask for full payment before.

[@GCPerformance18]

yea a lot of these bike purchases are usually spontanious, ill call my customers and say I have it right now in stock, no one wants to jump the gun on a 5k fr5ame and have to wait for two months to question if it is worht i ti

[@tonyp4536]

I had same experience with a Giant that I ordered and 4 months later they still could not tell me with any certainty when I might get my hands on the bike. Heard multiple dates it was on the way but it never showed up. So I ordered in early March and ended up cancelling it right before the 4th of July. Got a Trek that released its bike and I got my bike less than a week later. When I ordered I knew the bike was available and got an estimate of a week or two and I had it in 4 days. Would never buy a Giant again unless it were on the rack. But hearing I would have it in several weeks in March and that same statement happened every day. I will never suggest a Giant and a friend of mine ended up with a Trek because of my experience.

[@ariffau]

You are absolutely correct on this one. 👍

[@charliedillon1400]

I'd love to know exactly how many of these wild high end bikes get destroyed by the company when they don't sell. Somewhere there is a guy sending these frames through a bandsaw and into trash can. Keeping them rare is part of the pricing strategy.

[@Livlifetaistdeth]

Is there a weight limit on that setback seatpost and frame?

[@paxundpeace9970]

Probably but should be okay for serious cyclists. Probably 195 pounds 😂 for guy like nils Polit

[@BodieOutdoors]

I had good luck with my local shop having a Madone in stock during the first week of its release. However, it did take a couple of months to get my aero bottle and cages.

[@johnnyjensen8805]

The joy of anticipation is the greatest of all joys!

[@krsvbg1989]

I think all manufacturers and distributors just learned from their pandemic mistakes of increasing production and carrying inventory bloat. They would rather work with pre-orders rather than excess inventory that they will eventually have to discount.

[@SandSanta]

For my Dogma XC - I ordered in September 23 and didn't see it until september 24. The lead times are pretty nuts.

[@prof_writer]

Do you think the forced order process might be intentional? To understand the demand and to find out the specific sizes that are ordered? That would constitute the three to five month delay. And keep all the risk out of it for the bicycle brand.

[@Datboyvideo]

They do it so they don’t end up with Dead stock. Colnago waits to confirm the demand is high before producing enough framesets to actually get to the consumer. Same with BMC. The Teammachine R is relatively easy to get your hands on now, from tons of dealers. Trek on the other hand is big enough that they can sit with dead stock if need be, and sell on their Red Barn site. It’s pretty backwards, but the companies don’t want to spend the money to mass produce a product until they know the demand is there, which ends up with the situation we have now. Scott is on the other hand, notoriously bad at supplying to the US,

[@workshopninjathe1st]

Car industry do this all the time… I was into the idea of buying a VW iD Buzz - I saw it IRL in the UK last summer - still can’t get one here in Oregon over 9 months later.

[@Chan1881]

My wife was set on a bike that had been released by the manufacturer with fanfare 4 months prior. The dealership could not guarantee she would even get the bike within the next 12 months. She decided to go with another company that ended up underpromising and over delivering (estimated delivery in 12 weeks; bike arrived in 6 weeks) The first brand not only lost 1 sale, they also lost future sales. She said to me, “If this company cannot even get me the bike within a year after I first pay them for it… what kind of service will I get if I actually need something from them in the future (e.g. warranty service)??”

[@naf2579]

These companies should have an entire run available at release. They spend big money on the hype and marketing then things completely cool off by the time they are actually available.

[@tongotongo3143]

That’s done on purpose to protect people’s money. It’s never a good thing to buy such an expensive items on the spot being hot headed.

[@naf2579]

@tongotongo3143 corporate America and shareholders would say the opposite. Get then to purchase on an impulse.

[@tongotongo3143]

I don’t believe it’s the case, sounds like theory of conspiracy, because this would be an open unquestionable crime against humanity.

[@Raymond-Farts]

I've been waiting 10 months for the frame builder to get my bike done. Just this week I had a conversation with him and was told the painter is coming to pick up the frame. So I'm looking at probably another month. It's a good thing I didn't need a bike because I would have found another way to get something to ride. I say don't wait until you need a bike. Plan way ahead and have patience. I the case for that Colnago, it's so friggin ugly I wouldn't have wanted it anyway. I would have settled for a C68 instead.

[@talibe801]

the bike moves on the strenght and power of your legs,the rest its just a matter of the clients preference and great marketing.Pogacar can ride a 10 year old road bike and win.I remember back in 1999 when Lance was racing and wining the tour that year for the first time,my friends and i,all went to buy the US Postal Trek OCLV.😄

[@WhaJMc]

I assume bike shops would suffer from low volumes, especially with high end bikes. An Apple store could easily order large volumes of the various iPhone models and be confident of selling at least the majority of them. A bike shop might order a couple of bikes of a certain model for each of the common sizes. Plus a bike is bigger and much more awkward to ship. About this time last year I reserved and paid a deposit on a Specialized Roubaix Comp in size 56. The bike shop had already ordered the bike from the supplier. It took three months to arrive. My old bike sold within a couple of weeks, so I ended up having to buy a cheap old road bike just so I had something to ride. I live in New Zealand so unless it's air freight things can take a long time to arrive. However it doesn't sound like these wait times are all that unusual in other countries as well.

[@jbrc1322]

My guess is for these high-end bikes, the mfg is trying to get an idea of how much demand there is before producing batches.

[@MerlinMan1579]

I spoke to a guy my age(62) the other day who said he just dropped 16k on an Sworks….I just nodded thinking I’m so past those bikes now.

[@larryt.atcycleitalia5786]

At 62 how many more bikes is the guy gonna buy? I might think $16K is a waste of $ for anything sold by the Big-S, but it's NOT my money, so..

[@JimUe1]

Some companies have gotten used to covid supply chain issue wait times and assume that it is the new normal even 5 years later. There's plenty of other options out there, most of the time they end up being better rational options.

[@mohammadtaufek5529]

I will wait and see if these bike win races …. then I’ll think of purchase it. May be 12 month down the road after it is release ….

[@charliedillon1400]

Riders win races. The pros change teams and change bikes all the time, and their performances don't vary based on bikes; they're all basically equal. Tires and wheels make more difference than anything.

[@kpsig]

I got a second hand Cube Litening Aero before losing that extra fat. It makes me feel ashamed of myself, then I bought aero bottles. Now I do not even dare ride my bike :-)

[@GCPerformance18]

thats amazing the cube bikes always look great I wish I could get my hands on one over here

[@davepgt3]

If I can't get a bike pretty much straight away, then I won't bother at all. Due to that, a shop lost my money this year because it was at least a 3 month wait, if not longer

[@jaasun71]

I ordered the SW Aethos when it first came out. Waited over a year and still never got the bike. Meanwhile , It was in stock in the Specialized website but I was screwed because I ordered thru a dealer. Never did get the bike.

[@josephzimmermann]

Totally agree but it seems that for now, essentially the whole industry adheres to the same practice. You'd think that at least one manufacturer would grasp onto this as a competitive advantage.

[@charliedillon1400]

Same as guitars, they mostly all come out of the same few factories.

[@SamuelBlackMetalRider]

Happens with CANYON too! Ive had friends who waited +than 1 year to receive their Aeroad

[@basdevaan517]

Just bought an Aeroad, two days later delivered! Happy days.

[@joekawasaki]

I think this is a question of scale. The bikes people are having to wait for are basically boutique items sold in the low thousands worldwide (iPhone in the billions & some probably still have to wait). Once you get to the lower models there's no waiting. In a perfect world there'd be stock allotment in all markets at launch but it's not that kind of product. You order a car from Singer & it takes 4 or 5 years.

[@georgedickinson8822]

Also, good luck getting the correct one piece bar/stem combo that you desire. That's even more time and $$$.

[@charng]

what you said at the beginning reminds me the good old days. in 2017, i paid the full amount in advance for a trek project one with customised paint. in about a month, i was called it was ready for pick up. that was great compared to now a days three or four months uncertain wait. do you think it's marketing strategy? something like "hunger marketing"?

[@dianam3288]

Colnago is horrible. I’ve had 2 bikes that both had issues. After the second one (V3rs) , they offered me a a new V4rs…6 months later and I’m still waiting and they upped the price! And now ghosted the local bike shop trying to help me. Insane.

[@tonygenovese6239]

So true they should have stock right away but I get it auto makers they’ve been doing this for years and it works for them the thing is that these are custom bikes and hand built so you can’t rush it because you can have major issues and then it looks bad on them but 3 months should be the most you get your bike and not I don’t know …

[@neilfox9540]

Ordered my Trek Madone Gen 8 at the beginning of August, almost 5 months later and I'm still waiting. What is up with this industry?

[@eduardoschneider2010]

one company releases and also has bikes the same day to sell. CUBE, they released their new 2025 models, they had many bikes for the early birds and they got sold very fast.

[@jamesmckenzie3532]

This is an ongoing issue with all industries. But what it's doing is killing sales. People aren't going to buy a dream when they they can have something now.

[@skidooboondocker]

Grant do you provide a full refund when the bike doesn’t show up at the said time? Or do you charge a restocking fee?

[@GCPerformance18]

no we give them the money back in full, its not there fault. now if they want the money back sooner then we told them the arrival date then we discuss a fee because they were the ones who initiated the ordering of the bike and we have to pay the processing fee on the credit cards and also go to the company to cancel the order

[@Razieldurgaming]

Hi @GCPerformance18 between Polygon Strattos and Polygon Helios, what would you recommend for me as a beginner cyclist looking for first road bike, for long rides and possibility of doing some races & beginner triathlons? What size should I be at, for 1.75m tall?

[@GCPerformance18]

Helios all day. They have great value and performance

[@mrteefoursix3440]

I bet now no one laughing about my Cervelo S5 Frame. 😂 The Colnago is one ugly looking bike. Same League as the Bianchi.

[@joelfr023]

Cannondale all the way! I bought the Yoeleo deal in 50\60 and I'm gonna put this Wheelsets on my SSE gen4 with my 30c GP5000! Cannondale is easy to have bikes and parts and Trek is in my opinion to about easy to ordered a bike and have an easy customer service in Canada

[@ChrisCapoccia]

the volume is completely upside down for bicycles compared to iPhone

[@JamesCanavan-wl5ev]

Bicycle Companies are right on the mark! Get the money first whether the consumer eventually gets the product or not!

[@stefanozurich]

Bike brands are so bad at keeping new bikes secret. We’ve seen leaks months ahead of the launch. Now brands are releasing so early to get ahead of the leakers that you completely forget a product exists by the time you see it on the road.

[@mtlaprade]

Very similar to high end cars. You want a new ZR1 corvette or ferarri? time to wait.... I do a number of custom bikes (custom frames, custom paint) high end clients don't mind waiting if it's worth it.

[@carlospetricioli]

This is probably related to the UCO rules having to be available within 6 months of when pros get to use them

[@znalniaskas]

You're right. Apparently the new Chinese Astana bike will be presented tomorrow

[@Yamaha_Bolt]

Is it just me or are there never any parts in stock for Shimano Di2 drivetrains

[@davidbrock6263]

When the Raleigh Pro went from $475 to $525 I thought the prices had gone crazy. Then my friend bought a Colnago for $575

[@GCPerformance18]

hahaha

[@denisspratt926]

The bike industry is quite similar to the car industry in that way. Cars can take a while from they get launched until they reach the dealerships. Just look at the Tesla Roadster they launched that in November 2017 and still haven´t delivered any to customers that put down a deposit. So the car industry might actually be worse.

[@onlycoolnameleft]

To be fair many other industries suffer these paper launches PC parts for example. The thing with those is there's only one top dog for GPUs for example and the big spenders have to wait like it or not, so really these "launches" happen just to drive up hype and stock prices. High end road bikes actually have a somewhat competitive market in comparison, so they should be careful to not let the marketing department be the ones that dictate the timelines. Honestly with the Y1Rs they could've waited until March, 1 they would've had stock at that point and 2 people are actually riding at that time (or at least starting to). Launching in December is just strange to me. I get some parts of the world Summer is now, but somehow I doubt Colnago are targeting that market specifically.

[@hobmarg]

they are forced to launch publicly though because of team training camps. Well really they have a choice, have the team riding them but no public release/info and then do consumer launch when they have produced enough to sell, or launch early before the bike is publicly ridden but then have a long lead up to being available to purchase.

[@onlycoolnameleft]

@@hobmarg Exactly, the way I see it is with the current approach the risk is being buried by other new hype bikes by the time you do have enough stock and people are actually buying things. The other way around has the downside of having to compete for media attention more but this bike specifically would've broken through given it's unorthodox style (also after a potential build up of "leaked" photos from team camps and after Pog wins some Spring classic on it).

[@dhodges1911]

Sounds like my No22 Reactor Aero (3d titanium print) that I ordered with an estimated delivery date of 4th quarter 2025 😮

[@RB-xv4si]

I think the bike industry in general is moving more toward a made-to-order business model. Bike brands having stock on hand with framesets this expensive is good for the shops and the shop’s customers, but bad for the brand’s business. Would you, as a bike shop owner, tie up $60k of your own capital to stock 5 of these new bikes in your shop in the hope that you quickly sell them? In the hope that they’re the right sizes for your interested customers? Probably not.

[@ΣκιστειςβάρβαροςαποτηνΣκωτία]

16k???? Lol I think I cam build something fast as this with 5k

[@marcinstyle85]

Easily and more important way better looking for sure 😃

[@ΣκιστειςβάρβαροςαποτηνΣκωτία]

@marcinstyle85 important thing it's the money at the moment I have build 7.350 kilo road bike without pedals for the price of 2500 bucks and it's amazing

[@brockjennings]

Monday you're new, Friday you're through! By the time you get the bike, it surpassed by yet another new kid on the block. Lather, rise and repeat.

[@Kiwisail]

I got so pissed off w/ the Scott Sports AUS/NZ distributer about the Scott Gravel Tuned who couldnt say if they would be getting any despite my LBS have 4 customers wanting one...I ended up w/ a Wilier. Scott lost me as a customer and i sold my Addict.

[@rejickmukherjee9154]

After waiting 4 months for a merida reacto I went with a giant propel. The dealer wasnt even talking money as he was unsure that it will. Come in my size. It arrived in my size 2 wk after I bought the propel 😂😂

[@robertpiche5167]

For bussiness it's not correct , but for the costumer it's not easy to . The compagnies have to know to respect the costumer but the costumer have to wait sometime to receive is new toy's....😊

[@carl90210]

Pogacar is the only pro currently who can sell bikes. If Pog is riding it, I want it!

[@rmb_dev]

I think Canyon has the best launch & delivery in the industry... Winspace also.

[@znalniaskas]

They are pretty much DTC companies, so they need to have this one figured out.

[@JimUe1]

canyon is always out of stock to me

[@Millicente]

I would understand if their reasoning was "we don't know how many people will buy this super expensive bike so we haven't made that many." But it seems like it's more that they're announcing these bikes before the factories have even started pumping them out which is stupid. If it'll be March for the first batch, do the press release and stuff in March when you have stock and THEN tell people they'll have to wait until May if you've sold them all. Supply issues due to high demand can be excused when it's something this expensive, but just straight up not having it available for all your markets is silly.

[@klx-y]

Some bicycle shops like yours, when you check on their website, show the availability of some products. When you buy these, they say they have to come from another part of the chain shop because it is not in their shopat the moment This is just unacceptable.

[@Rose.Of.Hizaki]

Yeah, this is just plain bad business practise if they are doing this. A lot of the mainstream retailers here let you know that an item is ordered from a manufacturer on request i.e they dont have it in stock but can order it for you if you want it but there will be an extra few days/weeks lead time. Some websites will advertise that they 'X' amount of units in stock and ready to ship but actually dont have any and wont tell you until youve paid, waiting for it to get shipped and get curious about why the status of your order hasnt changed to despatched and go and contact them yourself. I usually dont bother shopping with retailers like these as you cant trust them..

[@klx-y]

@ I bought a rear roval rapid clx ii from a well known specialized retailer shop the wheel was made clear evident available on their shop to pick up them. the day after they told me I will have to wait cause the wheel wasn’t available actually, and I had to wait 7 working days for the refund if I decided to cancel the order completely unacceptable.

[@olegkurovsky3198]

Is this me? The ENVE wheels on Colnago aren't 4.5 (more like 3.4). Too shallow. Although it says so. Weird. The ones with white decals are 4.5

[@Cortes19882012]

Bike Science is going to have alot of phone calls about that Y1RS. Have you stop by there Grant ? It's not far from Bicycle Generation.

[@GCPerformance18]

yea I know!!! trust me I was already asking when they are going to have these in stock but everyone is waiting for them, I want to fo get my hands on one for a video

[@tryhardpker]

The new venge will be out by the time my new y1rs comes in

[@clp91009]

Marketing claims and marginal gains

[@motta021]

Here in brazil this is even worse. I'm tall, 192cm, and it's even worse again. Almost a year to get a bmc teammachine R. Bizarre.

[@justincartwright3559]

Never ever pay in full for anything until its in your hand. Any company could fold then good luck getting your money back.

[@GCPerformance18]

think about people buying anything online, everyhting now is paid in full no matter what, and that said person has to wait for there product to arrive