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@zaftnotameni Жыл бұрын
reminder that pre-orders are a despicable anti-consumer practice, don't fall for that, wait for it to come out and then judge if you should/want to spend your money
@VertFirstQuestion Жыл бұрын
Recently played a 8 men FFA game and one of the guys literally had a pure great bombard army + bunch of Castles he used to "agressively defend" himself against 4 players and killed half the lobby with it.
@Corvinus1 Жыл бұрын
Oh no.. I RUINED DRONGO AFTER ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GOD DAM OTTOMAN IMPERIAL
@Rafael-c9c Жыл бұрын
You broke the game, I'll be forced to play imperial ottoman now
@sofianosss Жыл бұрын
So it was you, I was sure someone made a guide for this, I have played 3 games against fast imp ottoman in the same night
@traductus3337 Жыл бұрын
The Malian player did the same mistage the HRE player did in that one Salami Video, and that is he stopped making units. You dont need to be in imp, your dont need culverin or roller shutter trigger spingals, you just need springals, 5 to be exactly to one shoot a great bombard. You kill the Great bombard befor it is ready to shoot. Just never stopp making units in age 3, burn down the Militry Schools and its gg for you. With Militry Schools alone, he can never outnumber you, if you just let him stay and build up an amry of free units you lose, going up to imp means you have to stopp making units, then you need to make techs or culverin, by that time he already has multiple great bombards and an amry to protect them.
@thegorn Жыл бұрын
That's right. I go for MIA first if I am able too, as I'm super worried about those mangos / megabombards taking out my trash army of spearman. Once I take that out I pull back, then go back in for round 2 to take out the military schools.
@ecpgieicg Жыл бұрын
He just needs units. Springalds are waste of time. By all means, 14min imp is super early. You should be ready as Malian since you are undisturbed. But your intuition is probably with a 16min readiness. Plus you may have some innate fear towards jans. Regardless, the opponnet just didn't play well having no sofa nor jav rushing through Drongo's eco by 14min since, again, he was undistrubed, and unopposed. Drongo shouldve died by 16min. A single bombard doesnt do anything when the Malian units are all scattered and killing vils all over the places. Incidentally, if you are super ahead and you want to kill but you dont want to build siege to slow you down, scattering for multi-prong attack is key for avoiding massive loss by inopportuned mango shots from fog of war. This last point is not obvious but is also nothing special for a Conq 3 player.
@jalalljumnbhjk10 ай бұрын
27:00 COW ATTACK 🤣These cows seal the deal for me.
@iceykid2 Жыл бұрын
Been using this build love it . Any advice on the variation of this build to defend against a feudal rush from French knights or English . I’m thinking of just assigning more villas to wood instead of gold to pump out some defense while going to castle behind it. Any advice ?
@Bivakk Жыл бұрын
Where can i find these opponents that let me simcity for 20 min?
@jkb16036 ай бұрын
LMAOOOO
@wilssantos2 Жыл бұрын
Goodness gracious, that's powerful. In a certain moment there you had only 17 villagers and 102 (ONE HUNDRED AND TWO!!!) troops! That's absolutely insane. And also it shows the power of siege + handcanoneers. Rus with springalds, mangonels and, yes, bombards (for which Rus has unique improvements) surrounded by a small, but sufficiently numerous, detachment of Streltsy also decimate opponents. Three or four bombards destroy enemy buildings, four or five springalds destroy enemy springalds and mangonels, and two or three mangonels kill massed enemy units. Then the streltsy just defends the siege surrounding it and staying still, since it has improved attack rate AND an insane melee damage (I think it's 60) when units come closer. Your other units will be there just to disrupt more of the enemy's attempt to destroy your siege. Well, I can see this works amazingly well for Ottomans too, but in a totally different level. Thanks for the video!
@darkagerush3098 Жыл бұрын
Honestly the mistakes made and how close to death this was just show even better how good Otto's are
@dcorzo Жыл бұрын
Drongo, do you ever end up using the vizier point that allows you to train knights and janissaries out of the military schools?
@viscondederioclaro Жыл бұрын
Ok if the Great Bomard is good, why didn't MarineLord, Beasty, Bee and Lucifron basically NEVER use it in ANY of the last competitive matches?? Several went to Imp
@AussieDrongo Жыл бұрын
my favourite ottoman bot
@MisterLucidDreamer Жыл бұрын
You just saw how he saved the game in conq xD isn't it enought ? And after his little buff I think, anyway, in your lvl it should be more than ok tu have fun with it ^^
@carlossime6572 Жыл бұрын
did u watch the last tournament call to arms? Lucifron teach us how to use the great bombard + janissary vs LoueMT in quartes... go watch it and stop crying X)
@tmog-gaming Жыл бұрын
I just want a game where I don't get attacked for 13 mins, and when I do it's 8 weak units
@Nicr0nRo Жыл бұрын
anychance the build order imgur is incomplete?
@TheMrYadrian11 ай бұрын
Do the 1st landmark must be with bushes? Isn't the 2nd option which gives you 28 golds per minute for each trader better?
@shareholder1408 Жыл бұрын
Drongo, would you recommend a beginning player to play Ottomans instead of Chinese? I used to be pretty good at aoe2, but the Chinese in aoe4 are hard to play. I do think it's the most fun civ for me though. I'd like to improve myself as a player no matter the civ though.
@trcoach3008 Жыл бұрын
u should play ottomans
@portman8909 Жыл бұрын
Beginners should play the English or HRE.
@trcoach3008 Жыл бұрын
ıts possible and french too@@portman8909
@jasonharter4876 Жыл бұрын
I think you would have been in even more of a pickle when he was in your base. If your opponent focused on taking out all the houses and military buildings then you wouldn't have been able to print units until you got more wood. With 8 vils left even having the MIA isn't going to save you from the next wave. He was trying to LM snipe you which I think was his mistake.
@NoClueforreal Жыл бұрын
I've used this build to make 60 Great Bombards in a ranked game and just posted a video about it! Thank you Aussie Drongo
@Pananananananananify Жыл бұрын
Oh my, this replay was killing me inside
@szyszszysz2062 Жыл бұрын
im nab plat 1 player but beasty thought us u select middle infantryman in group for mangonels to do magic. yet i love u drongo great content
@Torq83 Жыл бұрын
Anyone have a link to an opener to use against english longbow rush.. this opener doesn't work at all when ur new lol.
@Sadeyr3 ай бұрын
Does this stuff work or has it changed now?
@divergentlife493 Жыл бұрын
Why Ottoman? What about England?
@BoredImmigrantCanada Жыл бұрын
why twin madressa if the whole army is free isnt trade network better for the gold and then use farms and hunts for food?
@giorgospeppas9464 Жыл бұрын
In most of the games I play the enemy will rush at feudal/castle. How do you defend against that?
@JuHim92 Жыл бұрын
Surrender
@FolKlorExXX10 ай бұрын
this strat works well when you have A.I. Easy against like orange
@QuartQuin9 ай бұрын
does it still ''work'' as of this day ?
@guerreirodaliberdade7800 Жыл бұрын
Top players quite simply never (I mean NEVER) use the Great Bombard in competitive games worth $$$. After patch no change, because it's still super weak. Simple as that
@AussieDrongo Жыл бұрын
no wait THIS is my favourite ottoman bot
@mnmmnmm Жыл бұрын
@@AussieDrongo secret unit rolling out from the Imperial Armoury; The Ottobots
@Joek9100 Жыл бұрын
Beasty hosted a pro ffa and they used great bombards
@drksoft38829 ай бұрын
MEGA LIKE BRO. IS EPIC WAR ;)
@spiritologus11 ай бұрын
lol malian 100% won the game - he just needed to focus schools - he made a mistake - thats the only reason you survived
@kj3686 ай бұрын
It’s not the strategys that wins games or rank you up. It’s how good we multi-task and how fast. I can never get out of gold with just this strategy, i have to learn all the other stuff and do them faster.
@FlockeGaming Жыл бұрын
Hey Drongo, thanks for that. i can say it works :-) could defend myself vs 2 Plat player one Mongol and 1 Malians..... he great Bombars are INSANE :.) I love them. more than the Elephants from Dehli :-)
@LeDrPsycho Жыл бұрын
How do you heal with imams?
@a1xhuncho59 Жыл бұрын
its auto heal
@JoseEdivaldodeMoura Жыл бұрын
If this strategy is so great why MarineLord, Beasty etc never use it? Because it’s 100% impossible in real high level
@tevfikemrebesiktepe4066 Жыл бұрын
I agree. Devs make Ottomans so lame.
@alexaagerger3695 Жыл бұрын
"if this strat is so good why is not literally the best in the game?" 🤓🤓🤓 go outside vini you clown
@portman8909 Жыл бұрын
Just do the best strat for your league. You'll never become Beasty or top players. Their APM can make anything work.
@numannnnnnn Жыл бұрын
How do you do tc hop ??
@lewisbright805610 ай бұрын
Select villagers. Right click your villagers to go to a resource. Press G to garrison them. Select TC. Press D to "Return to work". Note: This won't work if you just right click your villagers on the ground, or if you send them to build something
@lucaxtshotting2378 Жыл бұрын
6:00 what?
@kostisssssssssss Жыл бұрын
i tried this and won against a guy who needed one win to go Conqueror 1 and he flamed me :D . Another guy got confused on how i was able to keep up and win. When game finished he had almost in all resources double mine.
@joeygk29903 ай бұрын
all he had to do was build rams which he didnt for some reason...
@mohaglade489210 ай бұрын
stone first for military schools , smart
@JoseLeybaDiaz Жыл бұрын
nice game!! fantastic!
@Acanis8711 ай бұрын
Thats absurd... lol :D Nice Game!
@fenrissilverfang8419 Жыл бұрын
Had some success with ottomans as well, but im wondering, how do you counter aggression if people just rush you down? With ottomans at least you have some units out due to schools, but theres the risk of something like a royal knight + archer feudal push from french, mass men at arms from hre as soon as they pop age 3 before youd have mangonels, and just as annoying you get english longbows age 2 which will snipe vills and any military you have cause they outrange towers and get dangerously close to your tc, denying you any gathering. When playing other civs you dont get your free training either, so its even harder to keep up with numbers.
@formd7593 Жыл бұрын
Ive made the same experience so far. Ottomans is a great civ, that can even turn so many games which were in favor for the enemy player (as displayed in this video). BUT: if you play against an aggressive english main with lots of archers, that is staying in the 2. age - you will get destroyed. Same goes if you play vs an strong and aggressive hre player, he will spam man at arms/landsknecht/waffenknecht and some rams and you will def. get destroyed. There is no counter against that
@tauri938211 ай бұрын
Impressive 🤟
@CouchTomato87 Жыл бұрын
2-in-1 guide and fun replay. Love it
@awaabkhakwany5731 Жыл бұрын
dear drongo, what if the opponent all-ins you in feudal?
@Von_Maverik Жыл бұрын
This is not effective. It's effective as scout rush is. This guy forgot about making units.
@williamdaniels8383 Жыл бұрын
@@Von_Maverikits 100% effective…the simple fact that it forces u to produce units means u can kiss fast imperial bye bye
@hounddogzepp Жыл бұрын
Drongo playstyle is all about naked greed
@TheAussyboy27 Жыл бұрын
@@hounddogzeppit reminds me of the naked greed he did in his AOE3 Portuguese builds 😮
@KemalCetinkaya-i3q Жыл бұрын
@@williamdaniels8383nah it wont work for top 100 never
@Reflection_Wave10 ай бұрын
This game is so addictive 🥰
@Riku936110 ай бұрын
Too addictive to be honest
@Sky-kz4yw Жыл бұрын
cool game
@skald-0_09 Жыл бұрын
土豆哥?Brother potato?
@andreacanali8860 Жыл бұрын
Look very strong ,maybe Need a Little buff.
@rj950110 ай бұрын
and they say bombards are useless
@cx6894 Жыл бұрын
11:12 bro forgets to pick up the relic
@Enternalsin Жыл бұрын
Just inspecting the goods!
@maheerali5319 ай бұрын
after seeing this I would say you should have a nerf to ottomans
@jawdr0pping5109 ай бұрын
15min imperial wtf?
@Abcd_efghijklmno Жыл бұрын
Amazing display of civ strength😊
@bitcoinatlas6295 Жыл бұрын
Drongo, i love your build! personally i prefer to play this with 2tc.. feudal age up with 2 and gather stone+wood meanwhile. i manage everytime to get up to imperial under 14 minutes. While having 5 Military schools + blacksmith up! AND i go for early Wheelbarrow asap when i reach feudal. What do you think about this? (i am a Diamond player so i think you could do it even better)
@bitcoinatlas6295 Жыл бұрын
in my opinion its so much stronger cause you have much more eco running for you when you reach that imperial age. you could look then to build production, or walls and keeps, or trade. But with 24 Villagers you have to really try to keep your head above water
@zaganim3813 Жыл бұрын
only in this game can the line " sofas killing mangos" mean something thats not insane.
@samsonabbott2105 Жыл бұрын
Hey Drongo, can you talk a bit about the pros and cons of walling in in this build order? You seem pretty strapped for wood/surplus stone and I can't tell if walling would have given value.
@kaiholding3958 Жыл бұрын
With the patreon is it live face to face coaching?. And how would I submit videos?. Because I’m interested in possible doing it
@true5844 Жыл бұрын
path finding is a joke in this game, melee units get stuck that's why u win lol
@FitzBro Жыл бұрын
Drongo OP
@spartan4243 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the guide! Btw i think imgur link doesn't work
@thegorn Жыл бұрын
That was a pretty sketchy game. Down to 5 vills in Imp is not a guide I want to be following lmfao!
@traductus3337 Жыл бұрын
Its just setup for failiure against every civ that tends for early aggresion. Just dont stop making units, you dont need to be imp to kill the ottoman player in that setup.
@hienhoangminh2567 Жыл бұрын
I am fully believe that Ottoman isn't trash anymore. Thanks Drongo
@williamengland1816 Жыл бұрын
Love watching drongo play!!
@muhammetfurkan9295 Жыл бұрын
You are realy bad gamer 😂😂
@OptimusCrime4444 Жыл бұрын
Doesn't this get countered with blade55555's anti fast imperial strategy? He has a video on his channel where he demonstrates it against HRE fast imperial. The moment after the initial slaughtering of the villagers the enemy builds siege and trebs you down from a distance. He will have always more units because he stayed castle.
@hounddogzepp Жыл бұрын
Every strat has a counter that's why you need to scout constantly
@OptimusCrime4444 Жыл бұрын
@@hounddogzepp i know I know, but I always see people saying that this strategy is overpowered and that it will lead to nerfs. And meanwhile it seems to me that this strategy is countered by making two trebs instead of going to imperial...
@tetefather Жыл бұрын
It's not overpowered but it's unrealistic and probably unintended to have a very strong army with only a handful of villagers so yeah there's a good chance that it will get nerfed.@@OptimusCrime4444
@chrisnewtownnsw Жыл бұрын
@@OptimusCrime4444 I don't like the mindset of finding an exploitable weak point in the design of the game and then teaching people how to capitalise on it. But if it brings it to the attention of the devs who can then nerf it then I guess its all good
@yz8520 Жыл бұрын
Drongo’s account 土豆哥 literally means “Brother potato” lol
@BTWatson1 Жыл бұрын
This is almost the same build order I have been using since the Ottomans came out. I’m too slow to do anything more than an AI match though. Good to mix in Jans
@MiroslawHorbal Жыл бұрын
How do you tc hop?
@AdamJDMartin Жыл бұрын
That was absolutely absurd lol. If you hadn't lost all those vils too imagine how insane the army value would have been. I'm actually blown away lol.
@Tombino-nd6px Жыл бұрын
Great video to show the power of free units, thx that you picked this close game!
@bashtinator Жыл бұрын
You know the little one is sleeping when Drongo does not blast your speakers with the intro XD
@NieRizz Жыл бұрын
My men clear the berries so quick how did you sustain it so well xD The sheep?
@dm514 Жыл бұрын
First thing you should ram is that mehmed imperial armory landmark because thats where the bombard pops out you need to delay that bombard mass as long as you can, so do age 2 ram push into age 3 MAA +archers for the jans
@Mehmetwehbe Жыл бұрын
you are the Sultan now
@aminyt3019 Жыл бұрын
That was hell of a match But u made a loooot of mistakes 😐
@tevfikemrebesiktepe4066 Жыл бұрын
There is no strategy while playing with Ottomans. We only rely on military schools which is so lame and boring.
@jinz0 Жыл бұрын
Ottomans still need a buff, also he should stick to just being a commentator not a player
@jeromemartel3916 Жыл бұрын
He is a player 1st and a commentator second.
@jinz0 Жыл бұрын
@@jeromemartel3916 better commentator than player
@SeigmeyerFreud Жыл бұрын
And you should stick to just being a viewer and not a commenter
@jinz0 Жыл бұрын
@@SeigmeyerFreud you should stick to being a nobody and stay quiet
@davidkroon971 Жыл бұрын
Don’t agree, conq 3 in 16 games is pretty good!
@daniel0912chen Жыл бұрын
Let's go with 馬鈴薯哥 next time Drongo! it's a better way
@AsianTomato9773 Жыл бұрын
What a comeback
@cannibrel Жыл бұрын
cool comeback, shit showcase of the build
@PythonicMethod Жыл бұрын
Remember when Drongo hosted not one but two FFA tournaments with special rules called "Everyone Should Play Like Szalami?" Drongo is just continuing this tradition. Everyone SHOULD play like Corvinus because it's cool.
@Kakashiblackbelt Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@alexaagerger3695 Жыл бұрын
Damn the turkbot got quiet with this one
@wilson9102 Жыл бұрын
gotta nerf the ottomans! how quickly the tide has turned...
@darkmoon7316 Жыл бұрын
interesting. In theory, it seems very weak. It has little specific research and almost no economic advantage compared to other nations.
@jasonsmith1950 Жыл бұрын
The economic advantage is this: you can produce a large army without spending anything on units. In other words, once the military schools are built, the only thing you theoretically need economy for is upgrades (which can be quite expensive, but you don't need very many of them - I think his relics were providing him with all of the economy that he needed). Hardly something that I'd consider weak in theory, given that the opponent is spending thousands to match the Ottoman military. Certainly appears to be strong enough in practice, given that he won with most of his economy consisting of 4 relics.
@arkloppiola Жыл бұрын
what the hell. how did you win this with only 10 vills in imperial XD XD
@theodoreroosevelt3143 Жыл бұрын
"siege dance" We all have AoE3 living in our heads
@gojimoji9085 Жыл бұрын
This is like an aoe4 version of fast fortress to falc shipment LOL
@WalrusJones185 Жыл бұрын
Honestly this just makes me think of how age of mythology had a button to repeat the current build Que.
@ladrianyu2637 Жыл бұрын
why potato bro
@JamesJohnson-kl1eu Жыл бұрын
Where are the buff ottoman people at?
@tevfikemrebesiktepe4066 Жыл бұрын
Ottomans still needs buff. Drongo is commentor not pro player. Ottomans rely on only military schools that is so lame and boring. There is no strategy here.
@JamesJohnson-kl1eu Жыл бұрын
@@tevfikemrebesiktepe4066 I'm pretty sure he got the idea FROM a pro player. and he got to the highest ranking there is in game.
@michaelsiagian8417 Жыл бұрын
Interesting IGN choice 土豆哥 ---> Potato Bro
@chrisnewtownnsw Жыл бұрын
ffs my last 3 fights were verse this ottoman fast imperial. Every noob under the sun is relying on it now and we have to wait for it to be patched
@The_RollModel Жыл бұрын
Keep this a secret 😩😩😩😩
@coyotesweg3129 Жыл бұрын
Now a video on how to counter it
@eristaviserbia Жыл бұрын
I played with the Ottomans yesterday in a skirmish against the Mongols [AI]. The Ottoman gameplay, i.e. going into fast Imperial, is straightforward and allows for a lot of versatility when building up a military force, without the need to heavily invest into the economy. And then you can go in with your large (and free!) army to crush any opposition at your leisure!
@Nil-js4bf Жыл бұрын
Lmao, Drongo saw Corvinus throw his Jannisaries away without covering them with great bombards so he decides to show him how it's really done. Feels so wrong that a civ can win when down to 5 villagers but free units are pretty good.
@fredo9341 Жыл бұрын
lol
@d4rw897 Жыл бұрын
I'm not sure whether I should be a fan of this or not