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Here are the parts I used in this Mic Setup
* SHURE SM7B - (currently reduced in price from $499 to $399) amzn.to/2ywL8Er
* Cloud Microphones Uplifter - (I said price was $100, its actually $140) amzn.to/3bvdwoZ
* Yamaha MG06 - amzn.to/34Xglwm
* Scarlett Solo DAC - amzn.to/34V7TOc
******Grand Total: $758 (as of the making of this video)
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Here is stuff I recommend instead
Mics:
Audio Technica AT2020 - amzn.to/2yBVcf4
Audio Tehcnica AT2020 (XLR/needs interface) - amzn.to/2KneQOP
Blue Yeti - amzn.to/2KmGiw6
Amazon Basics USB Mic - amzn.to/2KmES4C
EQ/Interface (For XLR Mics only)
Scarlett Solo - (For Condenser Mics, not Dynamic) amzn.to/2Vs60FC
BEHRINGER U-Phoria - amzn.to/2VuC8IY
Blue Icicle - amzn.to/3awfUKN
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[@Jayztwocents]

A LOT of people have recommended the GoXLR Interface since I want to use this setup for livestreaming. I think I will give that a try... its pricey though at $500. If it works out I will give my Scarlett and and a mic to Phil since he wants to stream too. Thanks for the suggestions!

[@JRaze]

Yeah if you are trying to simplify your setup, nothing beats one device to handle it all!

[@georgiospappas]

I would like to know which microphone and camera you are using for your videos. It seems you have 1 microphone on the top of your shirt and another one on top of your camera. Those seem to be doing the best job out of all of them

[@bigworm380gaming3]

@@maverickLIVE I went with the mini and I'm real happy with it. I also use the shure sm7b. works great with the goxlr.

[@playthreetwo]

Not going to lie, sounds like you didnt do enough research to the microphone. i reccomend the channel booth junkey for mic information. no hate love your vids and keep them up!

[@mogwix]

Cool! I'm not sure the GoXLR will have enough preamp gain on its own, you'll still need the cloud lifter with the SM7B. I'd love to see a video though!

[@Innosint]

The warmtone comes from basically speaking right in front of it (within an inch) The SM7B It’s not the the right mic if you plan to set it far away from you

[@Danthrax66]

Yep, this is why it's important to reach out to companies that sell and test this stuff and talk about goals you want to achieve and not just going with a product that works for other people. Especially if you aren't going to use it like those other people did. edit: also I find the focusrite gear to be not great, I use Shure's XLR to usb interface.

[@nickloper2542]

Yep, proximity effect is notable on this mic, just like its other SM cousins. Great mic, but kinda wrong application.

[@NicD5150]

Spot on, and what I was about to comment. The SM7B, being a dynamic, is low-sensitivity, you need to speak (or sing) right into it to get the proximity effect (ie the big low end). Which also is why in another video I commented that getting a better interface with better pres instead of the Solo would help the SM7B a lot. Basically anything NOT USB bus-powered. An Audient id22 would be perfect, and not too expensive...-ish. Audio stuff isn't cheap. Focusrite interfaces are fine (I like my Clarett 8Pre a lot), it's just that the 7B is super picky about what pre drives it, and it requires massive amounts of gain to deliver THAT sound.

[@blondiejoe]

Yeah that is a weird choice for streaming. When you sit in a radio studio or you're singing, you are meant to talk/sing right into it. It's not meant to be far away off axis like that unless you're belting it out etc. If you used it as you "should" it would probably be blocking your face or maybe making it hard to see your monitor. I agree that was a huge waste of money for the purpose haha. Live and learn though.

[@henry67278]

Also the orientation of the microphone matters I use mine verticaly and it sounds great

[@anthonyvolpe5221]

Sound engineer of about 20 years here: You have to be CLOSE to the SM7B to get that sound you want. I do agree that it needs more gain, but with more gain comes more noise- especially in lower end preamps like the one in your Focusrite interface. At the end of the day though, if you're happy with your sound then you're doing it right! One final note: the SM7B is $399 everywhere, up from $349 just a few years ago. I know this doesn't make your point any different, but its still a decent amount less than $500 :) Cheers!

[@PrimeRsoul]

I'm definitely not a sound engineer. I'll just keep throwing SM57 and SM58 at everything (you can literally throw the SM57 at anything and it will most likely survive. After all of humanity has gone, you will only find cockroaches and SM57s.). Even though the SM57 has a slightly different spread than the SM58, I prefer the SM57 (if needed with foam) since you can easily EQ it and use it for almost everything, getting it extremely close to the SM7B. And 99 out of 100 people won't even notice the difference, especially if you only use it for simple vocals. Maybe this has also to do with the fact that the SM7/57/58 are all based on the Unidyne III capsule design. Then again, I'm not a sound engineer, so maybe I am talking poop. Aaaaaand you can easily find an SM57 for $100 or less.

[@Easy_Skanking]

Also sound engineer here...The SM7B was an old broadcast mic. Emphasis on old. Rode has better sounding mics for the same application for a good price point. If Jay really wants a great sounding mic, the Neumann TLM-103 has a far superior sound. Is it cheap? Hell no. But you pay for quality and the difference is easy to hear. Also speaking as a former Pro audio salesman, the only way to get what you want in a mic, is t try them out in person. Your ears are your ultimate guide.

[@sanjacobs6261]

I'm frustrated that KZbinrs keep defaulting to the SM7B instead of any decent condenser microphone, without any idea what kind of sound it delivers. There is a reason why the SM7B is the default choice for extreme metal vocals.

[@RealLex]

Yup Jay, what this man said. I use the SM7B into a Triton Audio Fethed (gain booster like your cloudlifter) into an RME Babyface Pro. I keep the mic no further than 4-6 inches away from my mouth and it gives you THAT sound you're looking for. If you want to REALLY get that proximity effect (you know the smooth deep sound) you basically have to have it right next to your mouth. The Mic is great. Your technique and placement of the mic need some improving, as well as the focusrite is just a scarlett is just a mediocre pre-amp/AD interface. But your point of the Yeti is still valid. For the money it's a good mic. I used to own one. I like the Rode NT-USB better as a USB Mic, but once you cross a threshold the returns on quality for money spent are very diminished.

[@grrkaa8450]

@@Easy_Skanking for death metal vocals it still works incredibly well - it's not just an old obsolete broadcasting mic

[@Kickstandsup83]

"I have no idea what I’m doing..." basically

[@MattPicsET]

The SM7B works for people who know how to use it. 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@JamieFenn]

This guy has 2.5 mill subs and makes a video like this?! 🤦🏼‍♂️

[@reverendglitch]

Definitely not an audio guy XD

[@JakePendleton]

@@JamieFenn I'm saying. Jay is too smart for his own good 🙄

[@JakePendleton]

@@hikhuhvhh7883 Um, yeah I did lmao

[@Lutzsolar]

Yup

[@romero1337]

Jay just pissed off alotta sound engineers lmao

[@bdhale34]

Watch him piss off even more by getting a GoXLR and paying that $200 or more extra for their name. Is it good, yeah maybe but it's for sure way overpriced for a mixer of it's size/feature set.

[@Kevinmatharu15]

He wouldn't be pissing off more audio engineers because the goxlr is by T.C. Helicon, a pretty reputable name in the audio world

[@bdhale34]

@@Kevinmatharu15 they aren't reputable for a $500 four channel toy mixer though.

[@angelopanzera3946]

Nah, we cool... Actually the GoXLR is specifically designed for streamers rather than focusrite products that are intended for audio enthusiasts. As an engineer I'd say the GoXLR fits jays use case better, though he still may need that cloudlifter handy since I doubt a streamer targeted product will have any more gain/level than the focusrite.

[@MARUKU]

@@bdhale34 midas preamps for that price... tell me HOW is it overpriced ?

[@MaxdFunk]

F to pay respects to all audio people shaking right now

[@BasicFilmmaker]

🤦 Sigh. The SM-7B is a mic that is properly used close to the mouth - inches away. This is like taking a shotgun mic and placing it on top of your camera and talking from 6-8 feet away, and saying it is not a good microphone - no mic (camera, light, screwdriver, etc.) will work well when it's being used improperly.

[@wm1573]

All the streamers are buying this mic these days and they keep it so fucking far.. shows you that people just buy whats popular and do zero research

[@myname7021]

1.) it is a dynamic mic, you will need to have the mic literally in your face. That is what it is designed for. If you want to have a mic that is further away from you, then buy a condenser mic. 2.) 2min of research let's you know that the SM7b needs lots of gain, which can often be an issue with dynamic mics in general when used for low volume sources - such as speech, acoustic guitar e.t.c. 3.) Don't buy cheap crappy gear expecting it to improve quality of expensive high-end gear...

[@Aberusugi]

For number 2, he said he bought and is using a cloudlifter for the gain issue. Which is commonly what engineers suggest for the SM7B anyways.

[@sam-dn9hr]

I agree with you 100% Cant believe someone of Jays intelligence would pair a $400 microphone with a $80 worst on the market interface!

[@Gamekanaal-net]

Basicly he needs a cloud lifter

[@myname7021]

@@Aberusugi That is a perfectly fine solution if you already own preamps which do not have the headroom for an SM7B. But the point I want to make is that he found out that this is a problem after he had already bought one of the cheapest audio-interfaces on the market, and then blames the microphone for not meeting his expectations...

[@LunchboxDOTinc]

don't forget, throwing 9db of eq @20hz will solve everything... EQ fixes everything!! hell throw another 6db of both "bass" and "treble" gain at it on the mixer too... that will will fix the short comings of this terrible, terrible Mic.... i wonder if he has the bass cut circuit on the SM7b switched on at the same time...? lol

[@phfatband]

The closest analogy I can think of for what you've done here is buy a sports car chassis, plonked in a lawnmower engine, screwed on some biscuit wheels and gone "man this car drives like cr@p" It is literally the mic that Michael Jackson used for his lead vocal on thriller. It SH!TS on that blue POS. I've been a Sound Engineer for years and unfortunately you did a lot wrong to come to your conclusions. (and I say this as a big fan of your other videos). Please don't give up on the sm7b 1: The sm7b likes to be eaten. 1-5 inches away and speaking directly into it. It's a cardoid mic which has a beautiful proximity effect (Ie. it adds low end/bass as you get closer) Most people using an sm7b are wearing headphones and this helps them to hear themselves 'feel' where they are in terms of the low end response 2: Your eq setting was horrrrible. I don't know an engineer on planet earth who would add low end to an sm7b like that. If anything people would do a slight lower mid-range cut (160-320hz) and do a broad boost the upper mids (1-4khz). 3: The SM7b is NOTORIOUS for being gain hungry. Generally needing around 55db of gain to be useable. You don't get that sort of gain cleanly enough out of an entry level, all in one interface. Most radio guys and the big podcasters and radio stations are using a microphone pre amp that costs upwards of 1000$ a channel, and those channels are connected to other bits that cost much more. Now, you don't need that to get there for your uses maybe. But you do need a decent pre amplifier that costs at least as much as the sm7b per channel. 4: You've completely ignored dynamic compression. Also a huge part of the radio sound. In all, unfortunately once you get to the more professional side of sound, costs rise exponentially (and the sm7b is considered a bargain in the sound world!).

[@erikheijden9828]

I also get bored in quarantine

[@joshuamckown3145]

+1000 this post. Pro audio is not something you just start doing by plugging in crap you got from Amazon in whatever order it occurs to you. If you don't know what you're doing and don't seek the help of someone who does, it will (1) be very expensive and (2) not sound any good and (3) be entirely your own fault.

[@phfatband]

@@erikheijden9828 hahaha You better believeit . Bored... AND PASSIONATE GOOD AUDIO DAMMIT.

[@TheAcorn96]

PHFAT Wish I could upvote this 10 times!! Just a common case of not knowing what you're doing. Combo-ing a, not necessarily "high end" microphone, but a fantastic sounding mic with budget and entry level equipment is just simply a bottleneck.

[@udfbino]

your comparison with the car is so spot on,it made my morning coffee taste better

[@flowscreation3741]

Musicians, this is the best mic you will ever purchase at the price. He is using this mic completely wrong.

[@Leonidas909]

Please don't listen to that, this is purely subjective and situation based. The SM7B is proximity low sensivity mic, unless you plan on screaming into it or puting it inside a bass drum I don't see why you'd use it. There's of course the huge headroom before saturation that's cool in broadcast when you have thousands of $ in outboard gear to control the SM7B level without noise and distorsion but this is besides the point.

[@saturnGEEK]

This is not a good microphone for musicians. SM57 or SM58 is a much better microphone for musicians.

[@Eekolooginen]

@@saturnGEEK you clearly dont know what you are talking about. Im a musician and have used all of those 3 mics and plenty more. You could record just about anything with the SM7B. Would not use on drums overheads but its suitable for anything other than that. The SM7B is all you really need. Electric guitars, kicks, snares, vocals you name it..

[@Leonidas909]

@@saturnGEEK if you're talking about live sound then yes they're dope, but for studio sound they're kinda trash especially in the high frequencies

[@comrade_marv]

@@Leonidas909 you don't have to spend thousands of dollars on on board gear. A flathead does the job just fine.

[@Rubiks_LIVE]

That smooth tone you were talking about has a lot to do with the SM7b's proximity effect. From what I see and hear, you're simply too far from the mic IMO.

[@sebdhaese]

Could be, radio hosts are usually right in front of their mic. Streamers aren't.

[@Rubiks_LIVE]

@@sebdhaese for a dynamic mic, you absolutely should be. Especially, with an SM7b.

[@RocketDragons]

This is exactly it. That Yamaha is the only waste of money here (for this application, at least).

[@Naminooo]

This. You are too far away jay. Dynamic mics wants to be close. Proximity effect is something dynamic mics suffer from

[@lawnytoast7399]

Proximity effect is HUGE on these small sensor/diaphragm mics. Personally LOVE playing around with my Blue Ember and its crazy proximity effect.

[@happydudesbeingfun8842]

“This sm7b sounds terrible” as he is a foot and a half away from it. Knows ‘tech’, but not audio tech smh

[@jamesshort6856]

The sm7b is actually renound to be a quiet mic, so normally you would need a lifter or a high end preamp

[@kalijasin]

@DrOshawott, right. Knowing computers and technology in general is NOT the same as having knowledge of computer audio and audio setups.

[@CookieAsArrow]

@@kalijasin Yeah, knowing technology in general and focusing in computers is not the same as specialising in audio or camera stuff or any of the thousands of other technology fields, that's why linus for example hired camera people with experience. Most tech channels usually don't pretend to know much about something outside of their field of expertise, as long as they do that, everything is fine.

[@moristar]

It still sounds better than Yeti to me. I love Blue mics, but come on...

[@Dyingtoliv]

*gets dynamic microphone* *puts microphone far from mouth* *microphone sounds bad* jay: *surprised Pikachu face*

[@JRaze]

Things to mention: SM7B is generally used from an inch away to get that nice smooth proximity effect... helps achieve a warm sound. GoXLR Mini could have handled the SM7B in terms of gain needed and also provided EQ, compression, gating... for $250 Using the SM7B is useful for many over the Blue Yeti because it is a dynamic mic. Dynamic mics are less sensitive and reject noise better picking up less fan noise, reverb, and anything else you can think of. I did notice a hiss or fans coming through the background music which could have been avoided using a dynamic mic. With that being said, there is more cost effective mics out there but the SM7B is hard to go wrong with. Might be too dark for certain voices or perfect for smoothing sibilant ones.

[@somasora7]

Yeah, not sure why he didn't just go for the GoXLR. That plus the SM7B would've been lethal, and less expensive. The GoXLR Mini would've made it even cheaper

[@pa693]

@@somasora7 i got the goxlr mini and i had to purchase now a tritonaudio fethead to gain the SM7B better... but the fethead costs prox. 70$ and not 140$ like the cloudlifter..

[@JRaze]

@@pa693 what kind of distance do you have from the Mic?

[@Alllvii]

I bought the Go xlr mini and paired it with a Rode Podmic and I love it. i paid less then what i would with the sm7b. I played with the EQ a bit and my mic sound just like the sm7b now. Mic aside the Go XLR mini is a game changer

[@m-tech1816]

SM7B is too dark for certain voices? yeah i guess so, its pretty much black.. In that case the Rode Podcaster is the best, that mic is white;)

[@LiraeNoir]

Buy (by mistake) the right microphone for the job. Pair it with one of the cheapest interface around. Grumble. And worst of it, doesn't frickin learn how to use it. As it's been said a lot in other comment, the mic (like 99.999999% of microphones, by the way) needs to be CLOSE to your mouth. The distance from your lav to your mouth is already very much pushing it, for a dynamic mic for example. As for the tone of voice, the SM7B is a very smooth, and quite dark microphone. Unless you had an operation, I very much doubt you'll need more low end through EQ. Learn to use the gear, before throwing more money at it. And before complaining. Let me put it in terms you may understand easier: you bought a Ryzen 3900X for your gaming pc. And your paired it with a GTX 1050. And since it wasn't fast enough, you got an upgrade and a X570 motherboard for it. And since it didn't make any difference, you added an Optane drive because everyone knows Optane is fast. That's what you did for audio.

[@kyleconklin1472]

I love it when these mainstream tech tuber who dedicate so much time to their builds and gear still make terrible decisions especially when it comes to audio. It took Linus Media Group YEARS to get a true set of converters, preamps, compressors, and mic for their WAN show broadcasts, and their audio is still terrible. However it is nice that they are using hardware limiters now so when linus screams it keeps it under deafening clipping levels.

[@LiraeNoir]

@@kyleconklin1472 Well the thing is, it shine the rest of it in a new light. If someone can say something stupid with authority on one subject you happened to know and recognize the bullshit, how can you trust them to be good source for other subjects you personally don't know as much? I know, audio is hard. If you think there are a lot of subjectivity and tribalism and fan boy wars in PC gaming, you've seen *nothing* until you tiptoe into audio. But still, here we're talking about _extremely_ basic stuff.

[@emmata98]

@@kyleconklin1472 LMG has done also a mistake regarding their "Red" Cameras. Corridor did a good job of explaining, what they did wrong.

[@featheredpaws671]

and the worst part is he is telling everyone that these products are just a waste of money?

[@thomasr7129]

@@featheredpaws671 - wasted for his use.

[@crowdx422]

This is a case of, you should have asked someone how to use the SM7b before buying additional stuff.

[@Mateusz143]

one throws money at their own lack of knowledge...if they have any

[@Kblender798]

What you're referring to when you're comparing the Shure to the "radio" sound is proximity effect, you have to get your mic a lot closer to your face in order to boost the low end of your voice, without using EQ. A lot of streamers or content peeps don't speak directly into the mic when recording, and these professional mics operate best when the presenter is talking on axis to the mic capsule. I work in radio and we use the Sennheiser MD 421 mics in our A studio. By using the proximity effect to your advantage and adding compression as well, this setup will sound very decent. Compression is another tool I would highly recommend you use. Another issue could also be the Solo interface. Even with the Cloudlifter, sometimes it's just not enough gain to drive the mic, even with other dynamic mics like the RE20. Something like the new MOTU M2 would have been a better choice to pair with the Cloudlifter in this scenario. It makes me sad when others have an audio related issue :(

[@tiresomeandy507]

hence why Joe Rogan (who I believe uses these mics) is constantly badgering his guest to put the mic closer to their face.

[@JohnM-og5rt]

I hope he sees this. As an audio engineer this video was kinda hard to watch...

[@masterseanwit3594]

@@JohnM-og5rt This is exactly what I was thinking. How are you holding up with events being canceled btw?

[@alexr.8397]

I cannot wait to get myself a Motu m2

[@AlexValliMusic]

An MD 421 in Radio? Interesting. I've never heard the MD 421 used in Radio applications. Usually, it is the SM7B or RE20. In my home studio, I do vocal recording for local rappers and I'm trying to get actual bands to come through, but I've got some pretty high-end stuff, although my level of clientele isn't equivalent to the gear I have lol. I've got a Mojave MA-300 in my ISOVOX right now that I use as my primary vocal mic and if that doesn't work for the particular singer then I switch to my Neumann TLM 102. I run through a Heritage Audio HA73EQ -> Golden Age Projects Comp 3A -> Scarlett 18i20 2nd Gen. Decent setup for sure.

[@zellers4]

I personally use the SM7B for my home streaming setup and love it. I have the SM7B running to a Cloud Lifter and then into my scarlett 2i2. (also remember you can change the way the mic sounds with the tabs on the back, alot of people forget to make adjustments according to their wants. I made my a little bit brighter sounding by changing the one slider. It really does help) Makes for a phenominal setup. I sit right on top of the microphone as well like 1/2 the time im touching the mics spit guard. Its a great mic just gotta get into the mic itself. Its annoying at first but its the correct way to use it.

[@Moove_Studio]

I find it interesting that Jay said it himself: This mic is used worldwide in major studios and national radio stations creating amazing results. So why question and bash the quality OF THE MIC instead of thinking - "maybe it's a user error?" o.O It seems a bit naive IMO and surprises me coming from Jay.

[@JakePendleton]

THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I THOUGHT

[@Elwon20]

Several points to make here: Would loved to have heard you do some typing and mouse clicking and stuff... That Yeti will pic up everything in the room you don't want it to. The dynamic mic shouldn't. Also you should deffo be closer to both of them especially the Shure. Thirdly,... The Shure still sounds way better even when playing this video through crappy phone speakers.

[@LiraeNoir]

HEll, the Yeti as most condensers will probably pick up noisy kids and dogs the floor below. A condenser mic is, most of the time, destined to a studio. A room in a residential house or an office isn't a studio.

[@jboo8966]

I don't have this problem with my Yeti. /shrug

[@gamerbidd]

But that's why you use a noise gate, to prevent any background noise that you don't want being picked up from being picked up. I use a Blue Snowball on a scissor arm... which is half the price of the Yeti and in my opinion, just as good. Add the noise gate, a small amount of noise suppression, a small amount of volume compression and an EQ to get the tone you want... you're onto a complete winner! For $70 all in! (or in my case, £70)

[@sanjacobs6261]

Not if he doesn't move it as close as everyone is telling him to. Dynamic microphones don't reject background sounds better than condensers, they're just more often used close up, giving a better signal to noise ratio. Which means the yeti would also reject equally well if he used it closer up.

[@ghty56222]

my friend has a yeti and i fkn hate it. i can hear his neighbour 4 houses away close a door. its so fkn annoying for gaming

[@joshuamckown3145]

1. That tone you're looking for is called proximity effect, and it starts kicking in about three inches away from the mic, maximum. 2. You cannot achieve what you're looking for by just throwing a mic at the problem. You need proper preamplification. The mistake wasn't buying that particular mic, it was attempting a professional microphone setup while knowing nothing about pro audio. 3. You should be cutting EQ bands rather than boosting. Take that curve you've made and move it all below the 0 dB mark. It's not a volume knob, for pity's sake.

[@thisen1146]

I was about to make a rage filled comment. Thank you for your restraint.

[@ronnieryanpc]

11 months later this got recommended to me and it immediately, immediately reminded me of the Verge PC build guide guy

[@ryancox2134]

This just sounds like a lack of microphone proximity effect combined with a cheap preamp that doesn't have enough juice for the sm7b. It doesn't make a lot of sense to expect a $400 mic going into a $100 interface to sound absolutely incredible. It also just sounds like Jay doesn't quite know how dynamic microphones differ from condensers. I would also recommend that if you can use VST plug-ins with OBS, add a compression plug-in and it will help you greatly. As a sound engineer, I almost always use a compressor with a dynamic when vocals are involved.

[@TheSengard]

One lesson to learn: Inform yourself about the right application and how to use it, before you buy expensive gear.

[@youridv]

the mic you've got in your shirt sounds more natural to me than either of the other mics

[@jorenvangoethem343]

He's just complaining about an awesome mic because he doesn't use it the way it was intended to, he should've gotten a condenser mic

[@rob1253]

Yup. This entire video, the tie clip mic is the cleanest audio.

[@SabentHD]

@@rob1253 I'm assuming they cleaned it up but the other ones are raw eq because it's about live streaming which is harder to clean up than pre recorded

[@mados123]

@@SabentHD when you say cleaned it up (regarding the lapel mic) what's a typical workflow for something like that? Is it possible that is also on a mixer? Thanks!

[@flo4650]

The SM7-B is really great and as some other people said, the proximity makes the warm tone.

[@ralentinovossi8081]

Lol when you said you didn't wanna go cheap with the audio interface, I was expecting something really nice, and then you said Scarlett Solo

[@thecaffineman]

Haaa! Thought the exact same thing mate.

[@Jhakaro]

Yeah like Scarlett Solo isn't bad. it does its job well for most people's needs but it's just weird coming from the guy that spends like thousands on custom water cooling loops that is as he has said himself, more or less completely unnecessary. He'd never skimp out on computer parts or expect an i3 processor to be capable of intensive workstation loads so making out that like 200 or whatever for the scarlett is a lot of money when you can look out there and find ones for 3000 plus (not that you need those by ANY means for good sound) seems a bit mad. It's like going to buy an office chair and saying I didn't want to skimp out so I got one for 120 euro when proper office chairs all exceed the 300 mark at base entry level. That said though, its more than enough for his needs.

[@MrTVintro]

@@Jhakaro that's the thing though. Price wise it *looks* like an i5. As a noobie looking for a mic setup you see the $50 mixers and shit and the Scarlet Solo looks like the i5 option.

[@crazybigball82]

You gotta eat that mic! Don't treat it like a condenser. EAT IT!

[@JohnSmith-wx6yp]

I know right LOL its meant to be at your face..... SMH

[@synthjorisendedraak]

Yeah... That mic is waaay too far away from his mouth.

[@MrDifferentTV]

I feel like your doing something wrong in your set. I have the same Mic the Sm7b and just the cloud lifter with no mixer just an interface. And My sm7b is nice and warm and in your face. I feel like you might have the Highpass filter on your mic one that will cut out the lows starting at 300hz and below. Because that mic with no eq is has a great low end. And also you need to be up on the mic as well your far away from it so yea it's going to sound less bassy. don't be scared to get all up on that mic that what is was made for. Do more research before making a video about a great mic calling it a waste of money.

[@UrThysis]

Hey Jay ... i feel like you're a bit far away from the mic and we can hear the room reverb a lot .. maybe with less gain and closer to the mic it would sound better because of the proximity effect too , the closer you are to a mic the low frequencies are brought up more

[@DerrickRG]

All that noise is covered by the gameplay anyway.

[@LS-oh8kv]

SinikkaL It is covered by gameplay but that mic was designed to be less than 3 inches from your mouth to get proper sound qualify out of it. He should’ve either went with a condenser mic to have it further away, or he needs to eat the mic way more

[@AmusementMachine]

Jay, I've watched your content for years, but I have to put my own two cents in on this one. Everyone else has already touched on the major things here, mic distance (I keep my SM7B about 2-3 inches from my mouth), choice of gear, etc. I've been saying for a long time that condenser mics like the yeti are a poor choice for livestreaming. They're more sensetive by design, picking up background noise much easier, as well as catching room reflections of your voice, giving a "ringy" or "roomy" kind of tone in an untreated space. They're designed for use in treated studio environments, and are excellent for that. I would personally use an SM58 with a low end USB interface before ever considering one of my condenser mics in close proximity to a mechanical keyboard, mouse, PC fans, and AC unit. Condensers are by far cheaper, and more accessible, but marketed way too hard at the gaming and livestreaming crowd. If I had a treated room, a condenser might find its way into my setup, but for most people's situation, a decent dynamic mic is always the better choice.

[@KatalistProductionsKozzySasha]

That Shure mic is one of the best of all time. Some of the best albums ever recorded used it, not to mention podcasters like Joe Rogan and many others use it to do shows. Quality wise the mic is great for many things, BUT.. you do need to have it CLOSE to you and it has been known to need a good amount of gain. Might be to much for some people, but used right it is the GOAT of mics for many people. More for recording instruments and doing podcasts than streaming on twitch. I would say try the mic closer and get something better than can give it the gain it needs. If used right that mic will blow you away. Not needed for most people, but if you do anything audio related it is well worth the investment imo. Been to many studios over the years and dealt with many mics, this Shure mic is my personal favorite overall.

[@CheesyMcBeard]

You forget that the it isn't the mic alone. It's the tube preamps too that they used to get the sound.

[@FritzGillis]

People don’t realize how much the, you know, Neve, SSL, API or wtvr broadcast quality Preamp has on the mic

[@sybilreichlan6117]

The SM7B is great for what it's meant for..... close proximity sound. It's really designed for radio and vocal performance.

[@IceeFanta]

I changed the comment so people don’t know what I originally said.

[@rickyrigatoni]

i am a mathemagician and there can be as many firsts as you please if you can contain them.

[@stronkde]

Schrodinger does and doesn't agree with this statement

[@wil-fri]

@@rickyrigatoni in an array

[@joetowers4804]

Depends on what girl you ask.

[@WookieWarriorz]

than*

[@whatskraken3886]

the SM7B is a great mic, but yeah it's meant to be used really up close and personal

[@ronknight1010]

Jay if you need to do anything sound related Very Highly recommend talking to someone at Sweetwater. I'm a live sound engineer and they are my goto for everything and anything audio. They are extremely knowledgeable and there customer service is second None.

[@JohnPaulHare]

I only buy my gear from Sweetwater. No one else is better at this stuff. And I freaking love my sales engineer, Kenny. The man is legendary. I miss chatting with him on the phone now that everything is shut down.

[@zulegmat]

Hey Aaron, THANK YOU! I’m a sales engineer at Sweetwater and when I started this video I immediately face palmed. I REALLY wish he would’ve called us because I know anyone of us would’ve have gotten him setup correctly from the get go. Also, I appreciate you coming our way for audio / music needs, thanks for the shoutout my friend!

[@zulegmat]

John Paul Hare Kenny is awesome man! We’re actually not shutdown right now, just most of us are working remotely from home. Thanks for the shoutout, we appreciate you! I’ll tell Kenny you say hi haha.

[@JohnPaulHare]

@@zulegmat dude, that's awesome! Happy to hear you guys are working from home. It's tough not being able to plan gigs where I might find myself needing something in a pinch and being able to call up Sweetwater and have that piece in a couple days. Anyway, give him my best! Hope you're all doing well.

[@Midnight_Nihilist]

Sweetwater has been my goto for hardware since I bought my first amplifier as high school rocker in the 90's. Save for a few small pieces of hardware and my string instruments they've been the company that built me and my business. Every time I get with gear heads we end up discussing at least breifly who each person has as their personal engineer. Mine is Stewart.

[@CrackerSnifferBurger]

Man, imagine being this wrong

[@FlammableAirFreshener]

Hi Craig. I'm Craig.

[@ariadne2746]

you're too far from the sm7b! pro sound engineer here.

[@dharvell]

Rule of thumb: if a product works great for literally everybody, but doesn't work for you, it's probably that you're doing something incorrectly.

[@Nathansomething]

Na.

[@Latzi]

@@Nathansomething yes it is. He clearly uses it wrong. Who tf talks into a sm7b as a shotgun mic? OMEGALUL

[@beurksman]

Sound engineer here tearing my hair out

[@thesidekick6]

while not the biggest audio misstep, anyone else still waiting for his list of popular broadcast mics to mention the RE20

[@adamgeorge8327]

Join the club, there seem to be a lot of us......

[@emmytmo4914]

Guys, Help me get an even warmer AT2020 usb mic, pretty please

[@LS-oh8kv]

Not a sound engineer but I minored in music technology and took a few classes on the physics of sound. I’m also pulling my hair out. 100% user error, if he wants the mic 18-24 inches from his face, he should’ve gotten a nice condenser mic. He needs to eat the mic, and he should’ve gotten a proper preamp as well. This whole setup is what it looks like when you don’t do enough research on a topic and then spend a bunch of money on it. Sweet water has excellent sales reps that could’ve gotten him set up properly the first time.

[@jarno414]

On my HiFi setup, there was a huge difference...

[@root9065]

Turns out Jay's two cents are worth exactly that.

[@AndreaZaffanella]

Jay, just a bunch of advices from an audio recording affectionate, (I also used to make yt guitar based videos)... this type of equing you did is not the smartest idea in my opinion, for these reasons: 1: no lowpass, no highpass.. therefore alot of noise. 2: by removing the midium end of the sound spectrum, you're making it so that yeah it sounds good by itself, but as soon as you're gonna play a game while talking... you're gonna notice that your voice is gonna disappear. 3: Also please, please NEGATIVE EQUING is the way to go, don't boost frequencies, cut the ones you dont need instead, it will prevent you from doing alot of mistakes like this extreme of a boost on the low end.

[@Aberusugi]

100% He's cutting his mids in a direct way, as opposed to logarithmic like the pattern a typical mid sweeps dial would. He's amplifying the noise, like you said, and negative eq'ing should be standard from what I've learned, before you really know what you are doing.

[@ghomerhust]

i'd never really thought about doing the NEGATIVE gains for sound quality, i'd always gone the other way. ill have to play with that on my diaphragm speakers since they reproduce sound soooo clearly

[@thedarkbeast100]

YESS I was so triggered when I saw the curve of that EQ he is overboosting the low frequencies and damaging the original signal.

[@threepe0]

Didn’t need a physical mixer to get the eq either. Could have gotten a decent interface with built in routing and DSP like an RME babyface, or even used something like virtual audio cable if he didn’t want to replace his interface. The mixer isn’t the best quality and is almost definitely going to add noise, and does definitely add unnecessary gain stages/components. The babyface has better headroom, eliminates the need for cloud lifter altogether, and eliminates the need for mixer for eq. May have saved money that way depending, but would have definitely had better results

[@Skrenja]

That’s just flat out false. There’s nothing wrong with boosting frequencies provided it’s done after compression.

[@valtervincere]

This happens when "buy" goes first then "research" comes second. I recommend watching Juan Carlos Bagnell's response video to help you out in case you still don't acknowledge the helpful comments here. kzbin.info/www/bejne/opjYd5ifaq6GZ5Y

[@johndomulot1431]

blah...blah..blah, as a sound engineer, to get the sound you're looking for you need to be right up on the mic, as some have already mentioned the proximity effect (closer you get the increase of low frequency response), also unlike most dynamic mics the capsule for the SM7B is further away then most dynamic mics hence why u need to eat the mic, giving it that legendary sound we all look for. Anyway that was my two cents there's tons more id like to say but I'm shure other people are on to it, keep up the content!

[@FelipeVinhalMus]

So, even being super close to my sm7b I dont have much gain. My interface is the Behringer UMC202HD. What do I need to do to improve the sound? Thanks

[@ohduck]

hey jay, Shure SM7B has been $399 as long as i can remember

[@Sparksman23]

Nugu Yeah he definitely overpaid for it if it cost him $499.99.

[@rBusabrotha]

They even went for $350 back then.

[@LiraeNoir]

It was even cheaper than that, like $349 for quite a lot of years before that. $499 is more expensive than the RE20, and that one was always more expensive than the SM7B.

[@Deathignator]

I’m listening to this on $5 headphones...

[@bogartwilley]

I'm on a broken free phone lol

[@sujimayne]

And I'm listening to this on €300 headphones... and I have a €10 mic.

[@pr0xZen]

Hey Jay. Jay. Observe footage of other users with the sound you're after. Jay. This is a _really_ "Up close and personal" mic. Like, pop-filter-is-slobber-guard close. Jay.

[@tims4654]

Jay

[@DanielStevenMusic]

THIS. He keeps talking about how they use the 7b in every radio station, then sets it 2 feet from his face and wonders why he doesn't sound like the guys who chew foam all day.

[@Mebzy]

"Keep it about a fist from your mouth" -Joe Rogan

[@MrJesseforsell]

@Michael Hansen well Joe rogan uses that exact mic and it sounds good on his podcast at about a fist away from his face

[@komarms3465]

Michael Hansen other way around chief

[@shavenne]

You should take a look at Equalizer APO!! Its EQ or VST plugins even work with Skype etc. then. Also very useful for output

[@lutboy2909]

Wooo I don't know that

[@huskypetersen5124]

Yes.

[@clementlebarbenchon4173]

"DAC - Digital Analog Converter" -> it's actually an ADC :D Also, listening with good headphones, one should be able to easily tell the difference between the Shure and the EQ'd Yeti. The Shure's tone is more natural, more like you hear in professional radio studios. The Yeti ain't bad at all, but it doesn't have that 'pro' timbre.

[@LiraeNoir]

I'm listening on average one (Audient dac & amp, Meze 99) and even through KZbin compression I can hear the difference, night and day.

[@kenzieduckmoo]

but ADC is Attack-Damage Carry :P

[@LionStark]

i'm listing to it on a macbook and even trough the normal macbook speakers the difference is night and day haha

[@KnowBotty]

Honestly I can hear a yeti a mile away and it makes me cringe every time. As a former professional streamer I have heard them so much that they make me cry.

[@DrakkarCalethiel]

@@LionStark It is even noticeable on a bloody phone.

[@2ndAveScents]

I'm almost positive you have the bass roll off switch turned on on the back of the SM7b. You should double check the switches on the back.

[@gibek2600]

He's just way to far from the microphone

[@evm7368]

Cardioid pattern means that if he isn't right on it, the lows will naturally roll off

[@cassiothird]

I think the warm tone effect you're looking for is in part thanks to the proximity effect so you need to have the mic a lot closer to get it (without EQ).

[@alexverbaan]

I can feel all the other sound and music people watching this getting annoyed by what Jay has said. The Shure Sm7b is a fantastic mic for many reasons. You just need to know how to use it.

[@StrayMedicine]

07:28 You can get a few GOOD standalone EQs for roughly $20-50, or you could just get iZotope's Ozone 9 Elements for free from Sweetwater (free version doesn't come with standalone), then get VB Cable, and route the audio from OBS into whatever program you want using VB cable. Also an oldschool style EQ vst like the one you're running might not be the most useful unless you run a separate spectrum analyzer alongside it to see where your levels actually are across the entire spectrum. Always trust your ears first while EQing, but a spectrum analyzer helps a lot still for precision.

[@hsfilms9999]

I currently own the HyperX Quadcast. Very nice USB microphone for around $130-140. It's in the same range as a Blue Yeti classic, and some of my friends debate that it may be better. To me, it's personal preference as they both have their pros and cons. Must I saw though, it's very cool looking. LED light that internally lights up when the microphone is active and turns off when muted. Built-in shock mount and pop filter are an added bonus!

[@4DXTProductions]

I would recommend GOXLR with Shure SM7B you wont need cloudlifter and GOXLR has EQ software

[@Ketonomics]

so instead spend another $500 with your $500 mic. Got it. Haha.

[@4DXTProductions]

@@Ketonomics GOXLR is £300 you can get a mini version 2 My original set up was SM7B cloud lifter and Audent id 14

[@KryssN1]

If you want just good Mic Pre-Amp with DSP on a budget, get a Channel Strip like DBX286s or Behringer MDX. You need some space for that though. If you don't need effects then GoXLR is way better value for starting streamers. Audio Interface that are better than Focusrite SOLO: Audient EVO 4 and NI Komplete Audio and AI that is better than Focusrite 2i2: Motu M2. Just my 5 centz

[@lyianx]

SM7B isn't necessary for PC use. Hes right, Harris (Alpha Gaming) pretty much proved that if you spend much more than $100 on a mic, you're basically wasting your money as you can get $100 mics to sound great, and the additional coast of something like the SM7B you WILL NOT HEAR though a PC, especially if you are posting that content on Twitch or KZbin, who compresses that shit Anyway, so the extra 'quality' just gets tossed out regardless.

[@4DXTProductions]

@@lyianx the 2nd mic in this video is £100 you can hear the difrence and Harris uses a £2000 mic in all his videos. I like Haris though hes the reason i got the GOXLR

[@ColdSouth]

you bought a mic designed for high end audio production and complained it was overpriced for streaming and KZbin videos. It's not overpriced whatsoever, what it offers is above and beyond the quality a yeti could ever achieve. Sure it's not required for a KZbin video or a stream, but to call it overpriced because you're not using it for its intended application is a bit disingenuous.

[@braydennturner]

The point is, for people who are streaming, gaming, and using it for home applications, its not worth the investment.

[@ColdSouth]

@@braydennturner So you just didn't read the last sentence of my comment or...?

[@bjerrum4921]

I bought a Blue Snowball Ice about 3 years ago and still use it.

[@daegan00]

Bjerrum ayyy me too I got it at sams club for a great discount. It sounds good but it picks up almost everything

[@Thrashman138]

Gross. What an awful microphone.

[@twitchyg1373]

Yeah I got mine at Kmart before closure and dang it's so good for the price. I have never even touched settings on it but it's crystal clear.

[@sanjacobs6261]

Aaah, but Blue has so many other, better microphones! D:

[@twitchyg1373]

@@sanjacobs6261 true but when I'd just started college and wanted better than a normal headset that was the go to

[@thatrealba]

TLDR: Jay dumb. Don't be a Jay. :D

[@natehaiden]

For recording industry professionals the 7B is not "A waste of money" because they can notice literally every aspect of how every part of a signal chain makes a perceivable difference in the final product and most normal people are not like that. If you're trying to solve problems you don't even have by buying a microphone not intended for the general consumer market because other's are using it then yes you have "wasted your money" . However your setup in fact does perceptibly sound a lot better than the Yeti!! Try using a DAW with some compressors and tube preamp simulators and use the output from there :). - The professional musician who watches your channel.

[@mogwix]

I've tried the DAW output route and that's way too much complexity IMO. SM7B with a decent outboard channel strip (286s isn't too expensive) and a cheap interface = great sound and super easy. You're right though. I've collected a ton of mics over the years for my project studio, and I've tried a ton of them for voice over and streaming. I always go back to the SM7B. There's too much bleed and room noise when you use a condenser mic for streaming, especially with a clicky GAMING keyboard. I'm not sure why he boosted the lows so much in his EQ though. I always have a high pass filter set on the 7B to stop it getting muddy with speech. I guess he wants that RADIO SOUND but you sacrifice clarity and it's much more difficult to get it to cut through a mix such as heavily compressed game audio.

[@themessenger1680]

I'd if you're willing to dish out the money on a Yeti, you should instead get an Audio Technica AT2020 it's a much better USB mic for similar price range

[@Sasasala386]

Since I got some headphones from Audio Technica, I will NEVER even put into consideration another audio hardware from another brand. Their quality/bucks is superb!

[@josephstalin8684]

You could also consider the neat king bee or any of mxl v67g

[@KryssN1]

I will chip in, if you want to go instead with warmer sound and if you got noisy background, get a Samson Q2U microphone (it can be used as USB and then XLR down the line). In terms of Mixer/Audio Interface for Streaming good option is to go with GoXLR mini, it has DSP EQ, Gate, Compressor, a Great Pre-AMP for Microphone (73dB gain, -129dB EIN , 108db DR) and also quite decent DAC and okay AMP for 150ohm headphones. You can also use it with headset (3.5mm jacks) at start and apply EQ, Gate, Compressor for great sound System Wide, not only OBS and recording. You also get 4 Faders for Virtual Channels (discord, spotify, headphones etc). If you want good Audio Interface DO NOT GET Focusrite SOLO (it's mediocre in comparison to alternatives), get better Audient EVO 4, Native Instruments Komplete Audio 2 at same price range, more I/O better quality, and over Focusrite 2i2 get the Motu M2, like the best budget AI currently. Better I/O, feature set, PreAmps and Headphone AMP. You can thank me later...

[@andy14169]

i was literally just about to make the same comment! AT2020 FTW!

[@doublevendetta]

AT2020 is legendary in all its forms

[@Zach0451]

I wish there were more videos on setups like this. I've been wanting to get into the KZbin/video making sphere but there are so many different opinions and I don't have the money to spare to troubleshoot these things myself.

[@raveneff]

Harris Heller aka Alpha gaming is an excellent source. Also I could recommend Booth Junkie. He's more into professional voice over work but he has tons of videos covering microphones and their value as well.

[@djr8585]

Yes, I third that.

[@Zach0451]

Thanks guys!

[@Skipper-1031]

As an audio engineer, this is what pro audio costs. But the SM7B is $399. If I were you, I’d really look into mic placement techniques. The sound you’re thinking of is achieved by one being right up on that mic. With a dynamic mic, you probably want to be about 2 inches from it as much as possible. Also nice job with the cloud lifter, I always use one with those mics! If you ever want a better interface, checkout the Apogee Duet, it sounds amazing!

[@Broganshire]

That sweet warm sound you want comes from compression, saturation and EQ all together.

[@Tacet137]

*that you dont want

[@Scart]

@@Tacet137 thats the joke

[@StevenJPiper]

Indeed, proximity effect at its finest. EQing it would likely leave it thin

[@RocketDragons]

That's actually not correct. The warmth comes from proximity effect. Jay was waaaaay too far from the mic to generate proximity effect, and that's where dynamic mics shine. The SM7B into a Cloudlifter sounds lovely out of the box, *if* you're "eating the mic". Tape saturation is only used to make digital audio sound like has been recorded on tape. Irrelevant here. And if you're using EQ and compression *properly*, it won't change the characteristics of the audio very much.

[@Broganshire]

@@RocketDragons it's all those things put together. I'm an audio engineer.

[@carbon_no6]

There’s a HUGE difference between the 2.. the Shure setup sounds AMAZING! If it’s the sound you’re looking for then it’s worth it. You did great when it comes to the sound clarity with Shure!

[@Jeremy_Kinsey]

You're out of your mind! The SM7/Scarlet setup is MUCH better than the Yeti setup.

[@DerrickRG]

Much nicer, no. Especially for the price.

[@trashsombra2793]

will smb is a good drum over head is and good vocal mic yeit sucks

[@JohnSmith-wx6yp]

I got my SM7B its been almost a week and its Dope....... the needed to do his research.. ... Long story short be close to the mic and its all good

[@Derek5272]

"Extra free time" *cries in essential*

[@angelcruz2576]

OrpheusPhD “extra free time” cries on furlough

[@tofu.delivery.]

*cries in broke overworked college student*

[@CNC-Time-Lapse]

I use the Blue Blackout Spark XL ($199) with a Yahama MG10XU ($199) connect to the Rode PSA1 arm and I love the setup. Warm sound with nice tonal base. I use to have the Blue Icicle XLR to USB but needed a way to monitor the audio over XLR since there is about a 200ms delay over USB. Glad I chose the MG10XU for monitoring and power. Gives me options I need with room to add more mics as I build out my studio. If you're interested in having faders per channel on your mixer, I recommend the MG12XU or higher.

[@jaytea509]

Imagine it being 2020 and listening to this guy.

[@teh12man]

What are you doing on his videos then?

[@MaxdFunk]

"downsample the bitrate"

[@Pepingco]

I had to question my own personal knowledge for a while. I was so confused.

[@agarceran]

If you use Voicemeter Banana + Virtual Audio Cable you can route all your audio inputs/outputs and use VST effects on any program. It even has internal EQ. It is mostly free if you don't need really very complex setups.

[@m00ndancer]

Pro tip: Voice Meter Banana. Donation ware with all the EQ you'll ever need.... Virtual mixer. Works with Skype, OBS, Teams and so on.

[@9mmhobbes]

my stream rig: - Line 6 Pod HD Pro X - BBE 882i Sonic maximizer - Focusrite Scarlet 212 - Rode NTK microphone i have my microphone nearly three feet away and you can hear it clear as crystal. the preamp in the pod enables me to compress the sound and boost it while still using a noise gate. and BBE is what we musicians call "the anti-suck button" it's pricey, but it works like a champ.

[@break1146]

I was watching this video and my head just hurts. You should've done some research before buying the Shure SM7B... I've used this mic to make radio shows and the quality is beyond anything if it's in a decent setup. You should've gotten a condenser mic with the distance and the way of using it seriously. Like the RØDE Broadcaster, very similar in price and a good mic and I guess a little more user friendly. Or take advice from people that have a lot more audio experience than me. The thing is, the Blue Yeti is a great mic. Very easy, plug and play make it sound good. More professional mics just need more experience. I've made setups that took me a long time to make anything sound good. It's all learning and experience. See this a money spent on learning and some nice gear I guess. But don't you dare attack the greatest mic in my heart.

[@Critical3rror]

he never attacked the microphone and said that he screwed up and got caught up with the microphone. all he was saying was that for streaming setups there are much better alternatives. i understand your frustration and it would be completely valid if he said the mic was a bad buy no matter what but he didn't.

[@CheesyMcBeard]

I agree the Yeti would suit him better.

[@break1146]

@@Critical3rror Of course he wasn't attacking the mic directly. I feel like he was going on about the Yeti being much better value and overall I would really disagree with that sentiment. There is so much potential to a Shure SM7B that a Yeti can't even come close to. For streaming and ease of use the Yeti does have great value. Just like the Blue Snowball sounds like fucking headset mics in most videos. So terrible, but it really doesn't have to with the right precautions. If you want studio quality you must invest in studio skills. That also means buying useless shit or spending money on things you don't need after all if you miss out on research you might have not known you should have done. Honestly, I'm not as salty as I might come across. :-) Also Jays content is usually great and we all make mistakes. Honestly my fan and RGB setup in my PC is so stupid, if I had just spend the money better, right? 🤷‍♂️ We learn and overcome. :)

[@break1146]

@@CheesyMcBeard As I said maybe the Broadcaster as a nice upgrade as it is easier to drive. But the Yeti is great either way, might as well stick with it.

[@lyzrchllyhvd]

why not just go with the goxlr that does all of the things, but in one. and the audio quality is fantastic (anyone who says otherwise has never tried one)

[@SpuddyIRL]

You say its fantastic but 90% of audiophiles hate it

[@ilpatongi]

It's not that great, a dedicated interface is MUCH better.

[@dashofawesome64]

its only 44100hz and all is digital control. You can better buy UMC202HD with voicemeeter potato and use plugins.

[@ilpatongi]

@@dashofawesome64 They're both bad options. Also, 44.1Khz is plenty fine for voice recording, please don't bring up 192Khz/24Bit nonsense

[@LichValken]

@@SpuddyIRL 90% of audiophiles also barely if at all know what the hell they're talking about and just parrot shit they hear or read.

[@marlonhyre]

Lol you payed 500 for a 400 dollar mike🤣

[@unknownpickleman]

Yes he payed 500 for mike

[@InfinFox]

@@unknownpickleman for a mic that should cost $400

[@kayshell66]

Literally coulda got a GoXLR Mini for $250 and skipped the cloud lifter and all that other stuff altogether. The Midas preamps in that thing are MORE than enough AND you can EQ on a 6 band, 10 band if you get the full size. I use a Rode PodMic with a GoXLR Mini and EQ’d it for a couple hours to get it to sound like a properly used and EQ’d SM7B and the PodMic was $100...I obviously don’t have as much thickness and presence, it’s definitely lost, but at a quarter of the cost, you could have had a VERY solid setup. But you spent almost $1,000 to use your equipment improperly...

[@jeremyh1270]

I have the Behringer U-Phoria UMC202HD and the Shure SM7B and I've never had to go this complicated. I true, do get the hiss on the mic cause I had to turn up the gain to about 60% but no one's ever commented on that. There's also the switches on the bottom of the mic to adjust the frequency response(I think). Then I use Voicemeeter Banana(or Potato) to put in a slight gate and a slight boost on volume and bam, everything sounds great. This program also has an EQ as well! The program is technically donationware. You need to contact a streamer who has a Shure SM7B on how to set it up.

[@gaborcsiszer5150]

Jay, i love your videos, but watching this as a sound tech, this feels like The Verge pc build guide only with audio.

[@SkullAngel002]

2:23 - Can't proceed with the video until we see moar pics and video of your husky..

[@SMAAAASHTV]

SM7b is a gain hungry dynamic mic. You need either a mic booster, like the cloud lifter or an interface with really good preamp. Since you already have the cloud lifter, there's no reason to buy a GOXLR. You need to be about 3-6 inches away from the mic to get good sound and that's literally the point, as it will block out most background sound and only capture the signal right in front of it. Scarlett interfaces and almost all interfaces under $400 have to be cranked to get enough signal for the SM7b, without the booster. Long story short, keep what you have and move the mic closer to you.

[@blacklightftw831]

As a low end streamer, voicemeter has saved my pockets 😂

[@raveneff]

I've been messing with voicemeeter for a while. can't get it to stop having a double feed from the audio. I've gone through and reset it all multiple times but keep getting the same thing.

[@TheDarkPreacher65]

@@raveneff Have you tried using virtual audio cable as well? Get a little more direction for your audio, and if you spend a little money to get the extra cables, that's even more places to pipe audio through. Also, with Voicemeeter, there are tons of tutorials here on KZbin to get it set up for your setup. Just need to find one that would work for your setup. and if you are still having issues, hop over to the Voicemeeter forums, see if anyone else has been having the same issue, see what they did to fix it.

[@DarkShak]

@@raveneff kzbin.info/www/bejne/h5ynh2uBpJiHhbM easy way to fix your problems

[@DrakkarCalethiel]

@@TheDarkPreacher65 VAC is great, saved my ass a couple times!

[@Danocaster214]

I've been using Voicemeeter for years! I have a little recordings studio that I also use for gaming and voicemeeter and equalizer APO make it all happen :)

[@YHRS]

As a public service, I would happily take the SM7B off of your hands 😊

[@ericbonanno5214]

Ah, the wonderful world of sound engineering. I noticed Jay likes to have his mic a bit muddy with the added lows while streaming compared to the audio of his lav mic for videos.

[@steviej5054]

I think you would see a massive difference using even a free compressor plugin. A compressor is used to level out the dynamic frequencies but also used as a tone shaper. Personally my favorite compressor plugin is called bus driver. It's very simple and it's only $10. I think that it was unnecessary to buy a mixer just for the use of its low quality eq when you could get something cheaper or even free that's better. I should add that I also own the sure sm7b and Scarlett solo and don't have any of those issues. Higher quality audio gear can be finicky if you're not super familiar with it.

[@Bang-Smash]

you got caught on 'gamers/streamers gear' hype with piss-poor choices because it's trendy. sm7b is a class on its own when used correctly, not from half a meter away. DBX 286s instead of the cloudlifter and mixer combo, then your DAC (cloudlifter is useless anyway as the mg06 has very decent preamps built in (in fact far better than what's in scarlett. solo and 2i2 are popular not because of quality but because it's 'affordable' and 'every streamer uses it'. kinda like dxracer chairs, some free samples for big names and everybody wants it and praises it). I'd rather go for yamaha ag03 or 06 to use as audio interface. In the end people will listen to it on a 'gaming headset', so it really doesn't matter how much you spent on your setup, it will sound like a pile of garbage anyway for the 99% of audience.

[@jfergzr1]

I will give you some incite, I repair focusrites units for a living (before the virus started) from solos and beyond. The solos are not that good of an interface and does not have a good pre-amp to boost the signal and get good gain staging. The SM7B is MAINLY used for recording, and doing post production stuff in a DAW, it is not a good mic for livestream etc. The mic has an extreme amount of head room so you can sing or have an instrument be stupid loud and it would be able to handle it and also still sound good. I have similar setup (interface is a Clarrett 4pre usb) and my audio sounds great once the post production is done. Chatting in games or live stream not so much. I hope this was helpful, I can shed some more light on post production if you would like.

[@lyianx]

The Sure SM7B, as far as streamers go, feels far more like a "status symbol" for steamers than used for actual quality. Sure it sounds good and all, but as you said, you can achieve that same sound with $100 mics (i personally use a Rode Podmic with a GoXLR). My total setup cost like $350. The GoXLR has the additional benefit of splitting up my sound sources on the PC so i can control those volumes individually with physical sliders. Its Very handy.

[@MonoWheelCroatia]

Yo should try voice meter potato. It is a amazing peace of free software.

[@MonoWheelCroatia]

And try RTX Voice! It is Amazing!....

[@bykaminokage]

I went an Audio-Technica AT2020 road as I think it has a very fair price for what you get in terms of sound quality. I currently have RODE arm + AT2020 + Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 (2nd Gen) and I'm very happy with it, BUT there was a problem for a long time with Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 (2nd Gen) and Windows drivers. After some time your mic started to "glitch / crackle ". The problem was connected to the buffer size and it was only solved with a last version of their drivers (it took them for more than a YEAR to fix it).

[@Tomlinsky]

Stick with computers or learn something about gain structure before blaming the tools.

[@Ruhjuh]

Listening on genelec monitors and that yeti with the digital eq doesn't come even close to the sm7b setup

[@DoesNotInhale]

Hes a boomer and this video has ruined all his credibility in my eyes

[@AoDude]

I got a streamer kit from best buy on black friday that included a blue yeti and a logitech c922 pro webcam for $130 usd. Added a cheap arm mount and pop filter from amazon. Couldn't be happier with the setup. All in at around $160 at the time. Not sure if those deals still exist today, but i am sure they will come around again if they arent.

[@xtr3mecoder]

Jay, there is a difference between DAC and ADC :D

[@DanielStevenMusic]

Also between an EQ and a Mixer lol

[@vintageyamahasquid]

Oh god Jay, I think you pissed off the audiophiles! They are screaming at you for not mortgaging your house for audio equipment. Anything under $1000 for your pre-amp is not even worth it apparently. Honestly I could tell the difference even on my cheap speakers. I liked the sound of the SM7B much much more than the Blue Yeti. Is it worth $800? I don't know, I guess that's up to you. But for what it's worth it does have noticeably better sound.

[@AudioCraZ]

In radio, all of our microphones are running through a mic processors. This mic is absolutely great, but you have to have something with a really good mic preamp. I have not seen any usb devices with decent preamps. Yamaha is a good mixer, but you can do real good with a dbx286 for not a whole lot. Then that output to any DAW or mixer. There are much better analog or digital mic processors, but the 286 is a good budget mic processor.

[@Iam_Dunn]

As an audio recording engineer, my only little pet peeve is the way he “added” eq to the signal. Generally, eq should be subtractive. Lowering unwanted frequencies as opposed to boosting signal frequencies you want to be more prominent. This type of eq’ing can lead to signal clipping too easily, resulting in a poor sounding mix.

[@sneakerpharm]

Late to the party but sm7b is an amazing mic. It was used by Michael Jackson on the thriller album etc It does require a lot of gain but the legendary sound you're referring to is achieved through coupling this mic with a good mic preamp. Can I suggest an sm7b into a neve 1073 spx into a higher resolution dac like a universal audio duet. The neve is THE preamp and it'll add a lot of the weight, gravity and tone that you're after, not to mention an amazing eq and clean gain for days. Its not a cheap set up but it'll let you get the best out of the sm7b.