I hope you don't need internet.... - PfSense Router Update

[@quiethours1818]

This whole time, we thought we'd been watching linus tech tips, when in reality we were watching a real life version of the office.

[@ericsysmin]

Just need a party planning committee and lots more office pranks.

[@wallofriogrande]

what are you talking about twit?

[@AussalBurn]

And a Pam

[@ralphthefanboy]

Parkour Parkour!

[@luigiistcrazy]

@DONT READ MY PROFILE PICTURE you mean ”DONT READ MY COMMENT!”?

[@bobsaget8791]

there's gotta be nothing more terrifying as an ltt editor than seeing linus and jake walking around handling any kind of server hardware

[@derteater]

aren't you dead

[@ForeverHobbit]

tbh all the storage is local they were working fine, just couldn't use internet

[@blakehealymusic]

Burninating the countryside, burninating the peasants.

[@Hepglon]

@@blakehealymusic burninating all the peoples!

[@I_Like__bananas]

I think the time he came in the editors room with the multi-editor on one pc was more terrifying

[@avic9060]

Jake is the guy all HR people want. 22 years old with 30 years of experience.

[@chrise.9748]

Yeah, he has a great breadth of knowledge for a 22 year old!

[@truestbluu]

bread

[@nyan5000]

@@truestbluu i agree.

[@LavenderSunrise]

so Jake is basically real life Ash Ketchum

[@Mr_Sprint]

Yep, talking about a transit vlan rather than media converter. That’s something I didn’t first come across at till years into my networking career! His got the right mentality for a sysadmin.

[@alexhenry4480]

" No don't...well he's doing it..." must be the company mantra in regards to Linus at this point

[@mrincrediblememesuper257]

Ye definitely

[@gregoryp203]

linus is his own change control

[@jeffclark9918]

The benefits of being the CEO. 🤣

[@CesarinPillinGaming]

@@gregoryp203 Damage control you mean?

[@Spudmechanic]

Probably said every Friday about 5 minutes into WAN

[@himaro101]

"That's for Later Jake to figure out" "Screw that guy" Genuinely love their on screen chemistry.

[@truestbluu]

haha yeah

[@jsonWho]

yes! the way they banter - it's great!

[@TTV_JammerGaming]

Jake and Linus' work so unbelievably well together. Their chemistry makes videos with them together so entertaining that I end up forgetting the point of the video

[@ForeverHobbit]

ye thank god they are gonna move together soon, can't wait to see them with linus' 3 kids and yvonne moving out

[@MRJMXHD]

@@ForeverHobbit weird

[@bknighty28]

Absolutely agree but it's not just them. I try to comment on every video how amazing the entire LTT team is these days. Linus, Jake, Yvonne, Nick, Colton, Brandon, James, Riley, Sarah, ANTHONY?!?!, Alex... There is legit too many people to count these days. They've all really grown into something amazing. Absolutely world class ;) EDIT: How could I possibly forget Luke :'(

[@5at5una]

lol.. i remember early days of Jake was full on cringe and people were hating on that dude whenever he came up in the video

[@ForeverHobbit]

@@5at5una he has improved a lot, matured a lot as well. He was literally an annoying ignorant kid when he started you gotta give credit, it's not that people hated on him for no reason he simply improved a lot and people acknowledge that

[@tylerharris1085]

As a former lab technician, this server rack triggers my PTSD lmao

[@mrmsarmo-zw3qs]

@DONT READ MY PROFILE PICTURE okeh

[@1BigBen]

sorry but that is why I love Linus servers room videos they Trolls and Triggers the OCD most of the iT professionals around the world.

[@MrFluffyBunnikins]

As a former data center tech, that server rack is very neat and organized compared to our network rows. And I worked in some of the biggest DCs in the world.

[@olifranc4]

I work for a ISP, if you are trigger by this, you don't want to see our lab 😂

[@XDin4D]

My company has 5 racks and that thing is pristine compared to what we're working with

[@justinvanroie7113]

Linus: "This should still be running 10 years from now, 15 years from now" Jake: (five years from now) "Our router is soooooo old"

[@Koraun1]

SERIOUSLY how does Linus of all people not get that everything current is going to be hardcore outdated before then. I've got full 1GB in my house from AT&T that I'd upgrade if I they had faster. Eventually if you have 10GB in your home it will be too slow for the crazy high pixel real life looking VR we're all streaming 24/7 for work AS WELL for fun and everything else. Assuming the modern world doesn't end before then, haha.

[@jackkatogh]

Still here existing on mobile hotspot..... just barely enough.

[@Koraun1]

@@jackkatogh Ouch >

[@PredictedDuje]

Well my guy, he said "It should still be running (as in working) 10-15 years from now " not we will still be using it 10-15 years from now or it won't be old for our needs ...

[@Koraun1]

@@PredictedDuje Very true, good point. The way he said it though did sound like he was shocked at the idea of needing more even in 10-15 years. As someone in tech he should never be shocked by how things get outdated. Moore's Law may be dead, but it still represents a solid point that tech grows and changes very quick.

[@xaco18]

That they haven't moved that server room in any of the 5 expansions they have had in the last few years is mind bogling for me,

[@RagnosUTzone]

Moving all that stuff without breaking something, or in their case probably everything, would be a miracle, and this is business critical so its completely sane to play it safe. But they should absolutely do a second server room for redundancy.

[@Bartimayus]

Everything in the building is wired to go through that room. They can't move it (although they should have made it bigger)

[@nephrium]

@@RagnosUTzone Yeah at their size a setup ready for a warm swap with stuff on the shelf for swapping would make more sense than planning for 25bg internet at some unknown future date.

[@nickolas46572]

@@Bartimayus could become a network room only and the servers could be moved to a secondary room link with a 10gb or more uplink.

[@RK-tx5lb]

@@nickolas46572 Yes indeed. Good thinking. Would be safe to do that and in a later stage they can add an internet uplink for redundancy to that secondary room.

[@6point5]

i've been a sysadmin for over 25 years now. I've watched Linus since he started at NCIX. Can we all agree here, it's about time they built a proper server room. Do the HVAC properly and separate server / network infra cabinets? For all the money you spend on random stuff, I would have expected a revamp / build out by now, heh.

[@lkchild]

Or buy a modular datacentre to put in the new building.

[@tomsite2901uk]

Also considering that the entire business depends on these servers and the Internet. I wouldn't be able to sleep with this mess.

[@jordanwardle11]

If it ain't broke, don't fix it

[@iacopomattiello8100]

i think they are planning to move it to the new lab

[@bootskirusso1704]

When you count the millions of views and sponsor spots on the server room failures/upgrades plus the dollar outlay to do a massive overhaul(and salary for a system admin if you're doing it right), it's probably a financial loss to do it the right way. At least I hope that's the reasoning, because why else would they NOT have done it by now. Maybe saving it for a video series down the line?

[@boanerges5723]

A label printer is an amazing tool for labeling both ends of a cable...like a power cable or a patch cable. It's time consuming but pays off during maintenance or upgrades. You can even color code it.

[@javaman2883]

Wish the electrician for my home builder knew of label makers. 14 cables in a box, 3 different colors of cables, none labeled. I paid $150 per ethernet outlet, and don't even get labels. The builder says just plug them all into a switch and it should work. Good thing I have an ethernet cable tester, I'd like to know what I'm sending PoE to before I plug it in. In my electric panel, I have 3 breakers labeled "???" and only 2 of the 4 bedrooms are listed on breakers.

[@DeviloftheHelll]

@@javaman2883 well if its not passive poe, its needs to ask for power. in a passive way, otherwise it wont get it. look it up on poe specs

[@pixelspy5791]

I desperately need to do this with our servers at work. Our racks are an embarrassing rats nest from the previous IT guy and it takes so long just to trace cables. One day I really just want to take a weekend and gut everything, slap labels on every cable, and organize it properly.

[@ragerancher]

"This will still be running 10 years, 15 years from now" Jake in 5 years time: "It's OLD!"

[@pjohnson21211]

it could be running in 10 years but for a critical piece of network gear replacing after 5 makes sense.

[@ArmiaKhairy]

@@pjohnson21211 but not replaced in this way lmao

[@MeatPoPsiclez]

@@pjohnson21211 If it were truly critical in their network stack, it would be redundant. In their shop, if it suddenly died they could have a kludge in place in under an hour (grab random server, load pfsense/opensense, restore config, plug in media) and that's good enough🤷 Besides, I'd bet that equipment hitting 5y+ is pretty rare there just because everything gets poked and upgraded for the content so often.

[@NickF1227]

Jake also is like 20, so for him 5 years ago he couldn’t drive a car :P

[@johngaltline9933]

@@MeatPoPsiclez Why kludge anything together. The 5 year old box is already there as a perfect mirror of what they need for functionality. I'm sure opnsense has the same functionality for failover that pfSense does.

[@SaperPl1]

That server rack is a very precise representation of what is the difference between the front-end and back-end software quality.

[@rolf-smit]

This comment is absolute BS. I have seen many instances of better backend software then frontend. In fact some of the software I'm currently working on is frontend and in a horrible state, but the backend is relatively speaking way better (not saying perfect). In software development there is no such thing as to say frontend is usually better then backend in terms of quality. The reverse would also not be true.

[@buffcode]

@@rolf-smit I... I think it may have been this amazing social phenomenon called a joke

[@AlbusRegis]

@@rolf-smit Do not forget good looking frontend that is actually a Rube Goldberg machine under the hood 🤣

[@Rincewind-Wizzard]

With all their building expansions why did they build a new server room with room for a few rack where they can walk around it? They could use both if needed, split the equipment. The don't seem to plan for the basic things.

[@rolf-smit]

@@buffcode problem is most jokes are funny because they are based on something that is partially true, or a truth that is hugely exaggerated. If you get to know the software industry you will soon enough find that this joke therefore starts to lack the "funny" aspect.

[@AlexADumbDumb]

As an IT professional of like 12 years, these videos are some of my favorites since these are all things I might have done 10 years ago

[@realzyxtomatic]

As an enterprise network engineer, you guys are killin' me here. But for small-business/home stuff, I love it. :)

[@perksie]

misuse of the word trunk to say they can etherchanel/link aggregate got me.. 15:00

[@aaronriggan2373]

@@perksie I mean.... technically true, but plenty of network vendors use Trunk and LAG interchangeably (looking at you Fortinet & Ubiquiti)

[@L0rdPie]

@@aaronriggan2373 HPE Procurve switches and the original Aruba stuff based on that are also guilty of the trunk=LAG sin

[@engineeringvision9507]

Back when they stored backup hard drives in the bath

[@shadowfx7]

As an ISP NOC engineer who works on Metro-E, the video where they discussed Ciena made me die inside a bit…

[@neretilderem7029]

Jake: "it's really old, like 5 years old, that's why i ordered the new one" Linus 10 min later: "i want resiliency, that's why i choose Optane, so we can safely use it for 10-15 years"

[@TrippSC2]

I love that Jake has went from Linux's "sidekick" on these projects to a very competent network engineer. Using the VLAN switch as a media converter to work around missing NIC was a good call.

[@Miwna]

I love Jake, he's the best. But combined with Linus they're unstoppable. Their onscreen chemistry is unparalleled.

[@RK-tx5lb]

Agreed.

[@DuyNguyen-yx2vd]

Jake is holding this entire company together with bubblegum and shoelaces.

[@Uncle_Smidge]

Jake gives off mad Guillermo from WWDITS vibes, chasing after Linus and trying to mitigate the shitstorm he creates. I love it.

[@timplett1]

I honestly do not like Jake when he is the main host of movies, but when he is Linus' heckler it is gold lol

[@DominicRusso17]

They are the epitome of "There's nothing more permanent than a temporary solution."

[@exploshonz]

Jake: “That’s for a later Jake to find out” Jake & Linus: “Screw that guy” 😂😂

[@bland9876]

Reminds me of how Matt Parker of Standup Math actually has Future Matt as a character on his channel.

[@therealcrisis8439]

F for later Jake! That guy is so screwed...

[@Alex-gj4vr]

Hahah it’s from How I Met Your Mother, Marshall and Ted

[@kentslocum]

It's a testament to how entertaining these videos are that I watch them, even though I understand about 1% of the jargon.

[@marklee6538]

I feel like that server rack is a representation of day to day life with Linus. The finished product looks great from the front, the back end where Linus spends his time is pure chaos.

[@Herbertti3]

I would say that's most people.

[@bossshoang]

Business in the front, party in the back

[@DSCKottawa]

I would say the same about most software, end product is nice, code is a freaking mess

[@rakdosrok5816]

@@DSCKottawa Amen to that bro.

[@RashidTak]

Yvonne would agree

[@MeriaDuck]

15 years ago, when reconfiguring a router with a colleague, I started a count down from 10 when internet became unavailable. At 5 someone already entered the room complaining about a lack of internet 🤣

[@BrianGriffinQuahog]

24 years ago I worked as the IT guy for a school. A scheduled server downtime was announced once a day until the day of at which point a network message was sent every hour till the hour before then every mins, last one at 5 mins. Server was disconnected and almost immediately my office phone rang with a teacher screeching she'd lost her lesson plan for the following day.

[@ValexNihilist]

@@BrianGriffinQuahog there's always one lol

[@aznwierdone]

linus: "wow our current router is five years old. it needs to be upgraded." also linus: "our new router will last 10, 20 years."

[@Algenhirn]

to be fair if there's not a big spike in internet speeds in the next 10 years this one will easily last them 10 - 20 years

[@MrMarcetLP]

@@Algenhirn XD Thanks for future prediction. What stock should i buy? Can you help me with this too?

[@kevin65731]

trans rights

[@thewarmwind6171]

I think he meant for a theoretical client. Not for LTT.

[@robot3266]

The first one was made by jake

[@jpalmz1978]

I like it how they had a detailed written timeline on the days upgrade, including “Plan B” procedures 🤗

[@SpherionOS]

This channel is literally "We do what we must because we can". Amazing

[@squrrll]

It's hard to overstate my satisfaction.

[@Jono997]

And now they're making an actual testing facility. Next thing we know Yvonne's gonna be the base for GladOS.

[@dekzYT]

I’m glad despite his name being on the company, he still follows the rules and checks hardware out of inventory before taking it, even when the internet is down

[@wiebowesterhof]

Very true. I work in logistics and that was very good to see. It was part of the story too here, but they have impressive tracking and their internal team should get a shout out too. The volume of gear to check out, sponsors, lots of projects and their store, that's hard work. Kudos.

[@koyima]

He has to, to make people understand that everyone else has to do it too. Obviously they have a lot of hardware floating around and it is possibly an accounting/logistics etc nightmare

[@austinfarley4971]

Network and security admin here, at 17:01 can confirm. Exactly why I make backups before I make weird, possibly breaking changes. Also so happy most enterprise grade network switches forces you to to a copy running-config startup-config to save any changes. So worst case you just run really fast, unplug it, and plug it back in. (and then wait 5 minutes for it to power up making the running part a little stupid) Also yes, Router should be at the top if it's rackable. Our order is Router Core MDF switch o3x office switches rack with random ISP crap 3x big ass battery backups which we could scale down now since we have a generator now. Our patch panels are in a separate rack next to this.

[@woswasdenni1914]

^better would be patchpannel / switch alternating, allowing for ultra short patches, saves room and provides better airflow, fiber cross connect to the other shelf with core and or aggregation.

[@Albert-wk8ts]

I think they should consider having an actual server room in their new building. That would allow them to have a larger room and a couple of racks.

[@jeepdog5]

Who needs proper cooling, redundant power, hot air containment, cable management, expandability 🤦‍♂

[@JoshThiedeJT]

@@jeepdog5 dinkleberg…..

[@RealIV2]

I believe they already do have a room planned for that

[@TheLocoBoomer]

haha, this guy gets it -->>@@jeepdog5

[@jeepdog5]

@@TheLocoBoomer lots of time spent in data centers

[@blacksunshinegaming9315]

Honestly, at this point I feel like everyone in the office, when the internet goes out probably just thinks, "Linus must be upgrading something"

[@himaro101]

Or at least "What's Linus done this time then..."

[@blacksunshinegaming9315]

@@himaro101 exactly, but even like when they had their server go down like next thing he did was upgrade it lol

[@Miniac]

This is likely already a video that you guys want to make, but I'd love to see you guys build an enthusiast/small business pfsense router walking through the basics of hardware selection, software setup, etc.

[@dall3n88]

Not the corner of youtube I expected to find you! But that does sound like a great video.

[@S3ANZ13]

You might find Lawrence Systems already has you covered.

[@Miniac]

@@S3ANZ13 thank you!

[@MayaPosch]

Love how the front of the server rack looks quite neat and tidy, presumably for the guided tours, while the back is a horrendous and completely unlabelled mess. Kinda like a mullet: business at the front, party at the back :)

[@bheinks]

as a mullet-wielding sysadmin, I approve of this analogy 👍

[@Noticerofthings]

Hehe how true

[@comedyreliefguy5112]

*Better Call Saul theme plays*

[@graemejohnson9025]

only idiots put their server in such a small room, then try to cool it with air con.. the reason data centers are huge is? because natural airflow... grab a office with a window, set it up as a server room.. and let nature do half the work.. I wonder how much, Co2 blurting power LTT is using now? Yet Promote Electric cars? That is a truly ammerture server room..

[@Joescotterpuss]

The front end vs the back end of any website.

[@slartibartfast2649]

I love watching Linus messing around with really expensive enterprise gear.

[@mrincrediblememesuper257]

Ye

[@harbl99]

Yep. It's like he's a replacement goldfish for Jeremy Clarkson. Jake: "No! Don't bash on the delicate machinery with a hammer." Linus: "Sometimes my genius astounds even me. POWAAAAAAH!" James: "Sebastian!!! You utter oaf!"

[@DarkAbyss9]

But then uses pfsense on it 🤦‍♂️

[@sschroeder8210]

I don't, it gives me anxiety...

[@StrokeMahEgo]

@@DarkAbyss9 could you please explain your dislike of pfsense?

[@rallyadventure4321]

"because why not". It's so much fun watching your adhoc setups and money spent just because. You all just love new toys. And I love the genuine excitement. Best channel ever.

[@avlinrbdig5715]

since they do so much server content, they should have a larger server room with good lighting and room for people to film and rails in the roof for cameras and top views and an openable roof for those lovely server-drone shots

[@johngaltline9933]

Why? What they have is already twice the space that most home server folks have.

[@littletimmy7057]

what they need is an it department

[@RedHeadForester]

It's such a nice day, why don't we just do the server room upgrades outdoors? (Cue incoming baseball...)

[@zyeborm]

that wouldn't be nearly as much fun to watch though

[@Syokool]

I'm seriously worried they will f up something major if they are allowed to tweak more servers. Don't give them more space to make an even bigger mess.

[@BrandonTisor]

I built my own router a year or so ago and decided to go OPNsense. An unexpected surprise to see LTT talk about it and actually switch to it at the end of the video.

[@Hittares]

Yep, did the same thing about a month ago, got an old dell sff desktop with ivy bridge i5 and use it as a opnsense+jellyfin server, virtualised in proxmox. Rock solid.

[@MostlyPennyCat]

I built my own router back when you didn't have a lot of choice. We'd just got a 1 MEGABIT connection and routers weren't a thing outside Cisco and businesses. Spec was: Pentium 75 32mb EDO RAM Dual Intel PCI 10baseT NICs Dual 1.44Mb floppies for the boot ROM (LRP Linux), giving us QoS and OpenVPN on top of routing and MAC spoofing. I think it was about 25 Years ago.

[@rybaluc]

@@MostlyPennyCat 25 years ago wasn't even openvpn. Must be added later. It's sad that back in those days i not even had flat rate landline and had to visit school which had just 32kbit circuit. Cost was about 300$/month. But still cheaper than dialup ( we never got real flat rate possibility).

[@MostlyPennyCat]

@@rybaluc Uh, maybe we added openvpn a few years later. First we had a 1.44mb floppy "ROM" Then, I added another floppy which gave us enough space to add TCP/IP QoS to keep latencies down for gaming and browsing even when using the megabit for downloading through Traffic Shaping. That also gave us enough space to run a local DNS cache which, at the time, gave us a massive perceived boost while web browsing. I suspect it was only later that we added OpenVPN routes to each others houses.

[@MostlyPennyCat]

@@rybaluc I'd just graduated from University in London. The technical universities, like Brunel, had access to JANET, the Joint Academic Network. When I joined I went from a 56k modem at home to quad T1s there. We saw download rates of over 1 megabyte a second. MP3 had just become a thing and suddenly we had instant access to all the music ever made. Good times!

[@xXPazifistaXx]

Im currently a trainee as a system integrator and its soo much better once you understand all the acronyms and what does what in these videos. It really adds to the experience i gotta say!

[@DSP1337]

I remember the days where Jake was new on the team and the audience just couldnt deal with his sense of humor back then. He has come a long way since then and the Linus + Jake videos have become one of the most entertaining things to watch over the last couple of years 👍

[@rogueanuerz]

agree

[@justindavis5960]

That's past Jake. Screw that guy

[@craiggerhardstein7305]

I think it has to do with Jake basically doing a lot of the work on linus new house he is in all the videos of it

[@udittlamba]

they have great chemistry together.

[@oriwan3786]

I moved to opnsense after 8 years of pfsense. The main reasons are hardened bsd os, more frequent updates and very friendly community. Let’s not forget the predatory drama from pfsense.

[@Thats_Mr_Random_Person_to_you]

Agree with opnsense. They are planning to move away from the hardened bsd as its less helpful now than the past. I only installed opnsense last yr, but reading the whole pfsense drama totally made me ignore them.

[@denxos]

what drama? i'm out of the loop

[@Thats_Mr_Random_Person_to_you]

@@denxos TL;DR many many years ago just after opnsense forked from pfsense due to dev disagreements the then leader of the pfsense team started doing a whole smear campaign against the opnsense devs to the point of cybersquatting the opnsense domain (ie they boight it before the opnsense devs could) and hosting a webpage smearing opnsense and talking up pfsense. A court forced the pfsense dev lead to hand the domian over to opnsense and there was a bit of a change of leadership team at pfsense. But it was just such a douche move that it STILL hangs over their heads years later, and as such when looking at the two options I refused to support pfsense. Opnsense is also more 'open' license wise but thats only of marginal benefit.

[@p_serdiuk]

And opnsense has a zerotier plugin.

[@p_serdiuk]

@@denxos pfsense is very strongly interested in selling their boxes, to the detriment of the community.

[@Oscarcat37]

6:39 "This was supposed to be a very short side-quest" You just summed up the entirety of networking

[@flameraker6824]

LMG is the only company where an employee can get away with calling the boss of the company an idiot Multiple times a day

[@jamesdouglass6251]

In front of millions of people!

[@geroldmanders9742]

And you think that this doesn't happen anywhere else? Granted, name-calling won't happen in earshot of that particular boss (or his/her tell-tale lackeys). Pretty important distiction to make though, hahaha

[@tomsite2901uk]

Nope, I call the boss several times a day a blithering idiot and worse.... When I stand in front of a mirror....

[@TurntableTV]

Man, it must be so fun to be an actual employee of this company. I absolutely love their interactions!

[@RK-tx5lb]

That is the outside. The reality is, that you have to do that every week, and you have to work very fast, because you have deadlines: the filming has to be done and to be complete and uploaded. It's certainly not all fun and games, although it may seem so. It's hard work. But it pays well. 🙂

[@jamiepilkey]

@@RK-tx5lb Down in Logistics, we manage to accomplish a lot of stuff every day and still have a good time. I agree that it is not all fun and games, but I am far less stressed and overworked at LMG than I have been at any other company I have ever worked for.

[@Beakerbite]

@@RK-tx5lb it sounds like the deadline stress is why Taran left. He's freelancing now and taking less work.

[@abqalhamairi]

The chemistry between these two is unquestionable! love them!

[@PWingert1966]

It's like watching Dean Martin and Jerry Lewis in the old days of the 60's and 70's. Classic!

[@mihaitha]

Great idea Jake, throw the power meter at Linus and say "catch!". Because we all know how good Linus is at holding things, let alone at catching things hurtling towards him.

[@PH96Official]

OMG, I literally just saw this.

[@ranualfhunter1869]

Linus is like a cat on the desk- stuff just ends up on the floor.."because"..

[@craig3856]

The chemistry on set between Jake and Linus makes there videos just great to watch those 2 crack me up when they have a shoot together BIG LOL

[@Nur__]

On the other hand, I would love to see a series where these guys clean up the server room and that mess inside. Maybe move the storage to another room and have the internet there or just expand the whole room and just go balls to the wall like they like to do.

[@tams805]

The problem is that the return on that investment is going to be very low. The space needed and the disruption it would cause would be significant. And while they spend a lot of on other stuff, things like Creative Warehouse produce profit on each product sold. A better server room with better equipment (that they often don't pay for) would only really offer savings, not generate revenue.

[@ericvogt5460]

@@tams805 A propper server room setup with all things sorted out and organized wouldnt make revenue but is the basis of the revnue they get. If this whole setup they have goes off by overheating through the air conditioning, power things or no planed redundancy the couldnt make the revnues they do now

[@cxdeblue6055]

As someone that works in IT, these infrastructure videos are my favorite :)

[@shlokbhakta2893]

As a hobbyist, same

[@thelegalsystem]

Same. I got to help set up a Cisco ASR 9000 once and it was the most stressful and exciting thing I've done in a minute.

[@RK-tx5lb]

Same here. I LOVE these episodes! I have pfsense running here at home and also 2 Fortigate routers. My son also works in ICT but still lives at home with us, so that explains it. Hobby got a bit out of hand here. His, and mine. 😂

[@Time4Technology]

They put me in pain - they have the hardware resources to build a nice redundant load balanced network infrastructure with high uptime, but they hack it together instead of hiring a professional for a week. I get its fun and games to play around with the gear for them and it doesn't have to be all "super professional", but they run an office for people and there's no reason for them not to split it into one "playground LAN" and one professionally set up "corporate LAN".

[@nathanielrand3630]

They are my favorite and at the same time, the worst thing ever.

[@factorjay2100]

DId not expect the transition to OPNsense at the end, well done on seeing the light

[@JWSpradlin]

I love OPNsense. I swapped to it as my first "custom built" router earlier this year after rocking an ASUS RT-AC3200P for a few years, which is now just my AP. I'm still only using the dual gigabit ports on the SuperMicro motherboard, one for WAN and one for LAN, but I plan to upgrade to 10gbit eventually. I think I have two full 16x slots available.

[@RK-tx5lb]

In time, i also want to upgrade to 10Gbit, but it's still a bit too expensive to do that now. Besides firewalls and routers, i will have to replace at least 8 gigabit-switches and, to obtain full bandwidth, upgrade all cabling to cat7 or fiber. So, i wait a bit for prices to drop some more.

[@pjpleiss]

Good on you for paying attention to hardware lifecycles. It's all fun and games until you find out that the router you have been using to service 15,000 homes hasn't been rebooted in 8 years.

[@thelegalsystem]

Honestly impressed with that uptime. That's a reliable electrical grid!

[@desoroxxx]

@@thelegalsystem ups

[@thelegalsystem]

@@desoroxxx yeah every commercual UPS I have seen allows the device to safely shut down after a loss of power, not keep it on throughout the outage.

[@kingsavage2272]

"I'm tired boss"

[@pjpleiss]

@@thelegalsystem In that case it was a full rectifier/inverter ISP Central Office setup with a battery bank and backup generator. Someone in our network operations center only noticed the excessively long uptime after a tiiiiiny memory leak started causing issues. Cisco had to push out a custom hotfix to correct it. I was just the sad sack who had to come in at 3am to install some RAM upgrades and load the new config.

[@m.junaidmahmood4209]

Probable issues, 1. No labeling on cables 2. No air flow in racks back due to cable mesh 3. Is the airflow of all servers, switches aligned i.e. intake from front and output from back 4. I see that there are gaps between servers with no fillers. This causes cooling issues in the rack 5. Use redundancy in routers(active/standby) , then no internet down time..

[@nilleftw]

It's a great example of DIY and self taught people. Their server room always makes me cringe. Sure it works, but my god is it a jank fest.

[@javaman2883]

OPNsense supports redundancy. If one router of the pair goes down, the second picks up. That does require two incoming fiber lines, however. But the second one could be a much cheaper 1 gigabit, as it's only a backup.

[@MrGregsRnR]

Jake's excitement at 20 cores is infectious. I dont have any need for this level of hardware, but seeing what is available definitely helps with looking at future upgrades

[@THETACHIchris]

Neither do they. Netgate's 1537 is capable of passing 20Gbps and runs a quad core.

[@only1gameguru]

Father and son work so well together... I couldn't think of any other person Linus could easily force into cramped work spaces.

[@theverylastsurvivor]

Always love the mutual respect/competition from Jake and Linus

[@HTDutchy]

Yay for OPNSense! I can recommend their business license as it gives you a way more stable repo and easy management of multiple instances. I also manage 2 of their hardware routers, pretty good kit!

[@toddosty]

I can't imagine using pfsense after all the shenanigans they've pulled (see Wireguard, for example). OPN for the win.

[@StrokeMahEgo]

@@toddosty what's wrong with wireguard?

[@rpavlik1]

@@StrokeMahEgo nothing just their initial implementation of it. See Wikipedia.

[@denxos]

@@toddosty The current Wireguard package is solid tho

[@toddosty]

@@denxos Missing the point, though. This is a case where the journey is just as important as the destination. And this isn't anywhere near the first time Netgate pulled shady stuff.

[@Cobinja]

2:15 Jake: "Hey, we're not gonna kill their internet, are we?" Linus: "Sorry, to kill everyone?" Jake: "No, their internet" Jake the lifesaver 😅

[@nicknorthcutt7680]

My dad worked as a project manager at Cisco Systems for 15 years, its really cool to see newer routers and networking systems! I miss the days he worked there, so much cool stuff to ask him about

[@unclesammedia]

I don’t know why, but the thumbnail of: “The System is Down” immediately brought me back to the Homestar Runner days 😆

[@slartibartfast2649]

It actually made Chop Suey! by System of a Down play through my head..

[@WaffleClap]

"They're TAking OVer"

[@mikeymaiku]

TROGDOR

[@UpperCumberlandGamers]

The font and font color choice reminded me of iCarly

[@jessicagray8852]

Im still learning networking at a proffessional level, LOVE videos like this that teach me quite a bit, but also keep me entertained so i dont feel depressed watching it after work like video lectures lol

[@BloodyIron]

I'm really glad you're showcasing OPNSense! Yay!

[@winters-rp]

Linus must be like a proud work dad seeing Jake become such a core part of the channel

[@Norhaxu]

I can't say I understand much of networking, but when I see Linus and Jake, I'm here for the reality show.

[@GTDScala]

I love the chemistry between Jake and Linus. Makes for such good videos.

[@toronaldaris]

I feel bad for Later Jake, don't let your boss push you around when it comes to change management!

[@nephrium]

I think most bosses would want a better excuse than "Cuz it's cool man! lmao" But you can wave some extra cores under Linus nose and he'll bite.

[@RK-tx5lb]

Screw that guy. 😂

[@rarekid740]

@@nephrium Most bosses have to pay for upgrading gear, I'm sure supermicro was more than happy to send this out for free

[@chrisb.7787]

@DONT READ MY PROFILE PICTURE to pull the plug or not to pull the plug? That is the question.

[@GOWvMatchstick]

@DONT READ MY PROFILE PICTURE okay

[@mvarns]

I actually went straight for OPNsense and skipped pfSense when I setup an old R210II as a router for the homelab mostly due to WireGuard support at the time. Nothing to brag about compared to that beast of a router, but it is interesting seeing hardware like that and more people switching to OPNsense!

[@zyeborm]

r210's were a cool form factor. The shallow depth on them is afaik still unmatched by anything in dells current lineup. I had a whole company running off a pair of those running ganeti as a VM host all sitting in a wall mount rack. Was awesome to live migrate and screw around on ones hardware while there were still users running RDP and phone calls live through the asterisk VM. Came in really handy when they had a hardware failure once and the "next business day" service was more like "the next few days" I could have pushed and they would have made it out at like 7pm but meh everything was still running lol.

[@toodarkpark]

Same, I went OPNSense on my personal network after deploying many PFSense boxes to other companies. Why? The leadership at Netgate are petty, childish morons. I don't have time to put up with that. Frankly it is embarrassing. I am very happy with OPNSense. It is better in many ways, and just as good in most of the rest. The community is smaller, but much of the PFSense community solutions apply as well. And the leadership are not dicks. Bonus.

[@dinosaurandnapkin]

My favourite moment was when Linus heard "what if we had 100 gigabit internet?" he just looked up, dead in the eyes, a man who had grown up on dial up, looking at the rest of us "oldies" who know how insane the thought of 100 gigabit internet as an idea actually sounds.

[@1idd0kun]

It's gonna be a long time before that kinda of speed can be useful, since most websites and cloud services don't have more than 1gig of bandwidth. You might go fast on your end but you're bottlenecked on the other side.

[@cube_head]

I like how the last video Anthony said “we have to stop filming anytime someone opens the door to the server room” then literally the next video is them filming IN the server room literally screaming haha

[@flamingscar5263]

When Linus's company router is more powerful then your entire PC

[@nephrium]

When his old router that he's giving to an employee is faster than most peoples gaming machines.

[@Maurice2]

I love watching the server upgrade videos because I never have any idea on what they are talking about and I find it funny

[@MaverickX009]

I ran into the same dilemma when I was on Pfsense where feature parity was slow and updates seemed to be only when the OS gets its major update, but as you said, parts like the underlying OS may still not be updated to the latest. I had used both but switched back to Opnsense for faster updates and security patches as well as support for the latest drivers/features. Not looking back. Glad to see you came to the same conclusion pretty much.

[@FinlayDaG33k]

7:23 should have just said "DNS"... because as any network admin should know, it's always DNS.

[@scottdotjazzman]

The number of times I have been surprised by the truth of this statement is astonishing. Machine tombstoned from the domain controller? DNS. Random internet outage? DNS. Lost a Halo match? DNS. Girlfriend left you? DNS.

[@WhiteG60]

Our go to was 'It's the load balancer! Has anyone looked at the F5s?'

[@RK-tx5lb]

Correct. DNS issues can kill your whole network in an instant. That's where you should always look first when there's an outage.

[@zyeborm]

even when it's not dns, it's still dns

[@JJFlores197]

LOL. I came back from a month long vacation several weeks ago. My home router was up and running but we couldn't access any websites. Wasn't sure why until I realized that my DNS server somehow died. DNS is the culprit.

[@WaffleCake]

Jake's pretty good at his job. Manages to be knowledgeable and a good co-host.👍

[@aikusan1727]

Now I feel better with my server cable management by just seeing this.

[@Burnman83]

I like how those guys are literally running a metric ton of servers capable of hosting a container and/or VM, but are still running a UBNT Unifi Dream Machine Pro as an absolute all-in-one device as a controller only. This is where you could safe some power, Linus =)

[@wiebowesterhof]

They have some interesting gear. That said, I haven't been able to get the NVR pro and thus udmpro for me. It is fairly power efficient. With the number of access points, switches etc, it is an easy solution. They could probably self host it on a different box, but it was likely sponsored a lot hehe

[@Fetrovsky]

The editing of your shows has surprisingly still improved.

[@Tricumulairdesigns]

Over time Jake has become A great host! Used to not like Jake as much at the beginning of his career at LTT, now he is a big part of core LTT! Love you Jake ❤️

[@emraef]

after having lots of trouble with my ISP issued router i installed opnsense a couple of days ago, and i love it.

[@jfbrasch]

LOL! As a network engineer, I find these videos hilarious. They remind me of my time installing T1/Frame-relay/ISDN back in the 90's. Most ISPs will provide the router for business solutions connected directly to their fiber termination switch. Technically knowledgeable engineers can (and do) bypass these routers all the time (less points of failure?), but it impacts the ISPs ability to access/monitor their on site equipment (like LTT did). Personally, I use the ISP's router. I don't want to be responsible for PD of their circuit. I appreciate being able to plug my laptop directly into the router and test if it is an ISP problem or my (FW) equipment.

[@TheBloodypete]

I love seeing these Father Son projects come together, so heartwarming! 😂🤣

[@issaciams]

Lol

[@EricBangalish]

IKR?! I wonder how far they are on getting that doo doo out of Jake's house slippers!

[@yaseen157]

Did I miss something or did they never elaborate on the power draw of the new PF sense router beyond "it probably consumes more than 68 Watts"

[@captiannemo1587]

you didnt, they never covered it again.

[@calbert167]

Casual Strongbad reference in the thumb-nail. Love it!

[@imBeyondThis]

jake and linus are like the real house wives of the tech world, I love these jake and linus goofing around with expensive tech videos

[@evancombs5159]

They are my favorite videos from LTT

[@markstott6689]

Whilst creating a new and bigger server room makes sense I suspect finding somewhere where it won't distract half of the office won't be that simple. Plus it would be a whole weekend job no doubt. Fitting that into Linus' schedule and making peace with Yvonne would be another issue. All the rewiring, soundproofing and cooling won't be straightforward. Yes it would probably make a good two to three videos I'm sure. As any general knows - Logistics Logistics Logistics. Regardless I would love to see it.

[@rajismiley8937]

Best naturally presented infomercial seen to date

[@ShadowSync]

Not TWO minutes into this video, right after talking about "killing everyone's internet", my home internet went out for a few minutes. I think Linus has hexed the electronics in my home from the great frozen north.

[@jaxton7280]

Man if that's what LINUS' server room cable management looks like I don't even want to attempt my own lol

[@RK-tx5lb]

I had to clean up such messes for several companies in the past in the time i was a network guy. 20 years ago. It's actually easier than it looks. Trick is to document exactly what port is connected to what port. Then you're safe.

[@johngaltline9933]

That's what any server room looks like where hardware gets swapped in and out with any kind of regularity. They are only neat if no one is touching them, cause the moment you change gear and need 8 network jacks where you used to need four, any organization goes out the window, and it is not worth the time to redo everything just to make it look neat.

[@peteratkins7383]

@@johngaltline9933 it was neat and tidy once :) lol

[@jaxton7280]

@@johngaltline9933 that does make sense

[@driftlx]

3:23 very exquisite cable management 🤌

[@faysalkhan8p]

I used to run a i3 7th gen 8 gb pfsense for a 100+ user office. It was unnecessarily overkill. But it does offer packages like wireguard.

[@qpSubZeroqp]

This is so awesome to see the network side of Linus' setup

[@F16Jap]

@18:17 Yes you are making your own media converter (y). It's indeed smart to utilise the equipment you have. As long as you mark it well + it's temporarily (like if :D)

[@opinionshurt2905]

Linus: “This will still be running 10, 15 years from now.” Intel: “Here’s a bag of money, upgrade your router.” Linus, in like, 2 years: “Y’know, 30 cores is more than 20. And now a word from our sponsor!”

[@nicholasshields5662]

I’d like to see a full break down of their current network. They’ve deployed soooooo may severs in the last year.

[@bradenmatcham9772]

this stuff is my whole job so it's nice to hear you explain some of it and finally understand what I do and why

[@bradenmatcham9772]

(I have no training, everything I know was learned on the job)

[@avdpost]

You know it's going to be a good video when Linus learns he's going to be making a video while he is making the video.

[@RK-tx5lb]

Hehehehe... well done, you're a good observer. 😉

[@aqua-bery]

Your staff if they knew what you're doing: *sweating profusely*

[@zborhbeimk1409]

when i look at all these wires...man you are so organized :)..

[@Thats_Mr_Random_Person_to_you]

Ive found only minimal terminology changes in the UIs between opnsense and pfsense. So I've found that at a real pinch reading a pfsense forum post for an issue can be easily 'ported' to an opnsense box. So thats really helpful in my mind.

[@JimtheITguy]

I hope I'm not the only IT guy who just wants to go in and tidy that cable mess up and sort things out, also UDMP and UNVR in the rack aswell is an interesting, but running the incoming internet via a production switch that's got internal networks running on it is a big no-no for security, should be on a standalone switch for WAN traffic

[@raiden72]

Is this a bad idea because of VLAN hopping?

[@JimtheITguy]

@@raiden72 yup, also going on "lots of Vlans" and how things are very easy to change on Unifi switches could cause a misconfiguration and potentially expose allsorts, just alot of risk factor which a standalone switch would solve, at least they have swapped to Opnsense and got rid of the switch passthrough

[@daveyks1]

Jake and Linus have great chemistry...they should host a call in show on high end computing...

[@austinwilson930]

Would love to see LMG build a whole new server room with multiple racks.

[@bg73]

They'll be doing that in their new premises...

[@Outland9000]

Who knows, once the Lab is up and running and some currency is coming in from the backpack and screwdriver? Might be the next big project.

[@wheezelcolley]

as a network engineer this made me so nervous when they were pulling cables randomly

[@godfadger]

I love it. I mean who's going to complain? He is the owner of the company. 😆