I Just Changed The Bouldering Game FOREVER!

[@BetaClimbers]

The World Premier of the OSH 🤣 what do you guys think!?

[@vengal6251]

Have a look on YT at HoonSolo was just an April fool but looked like a fun concept and could be used for bouldering

[@AZDesertExplorer]

Pretty hilarious, but it works! Way bigger, way cushier, why has this not been done?

[@ryannicholson5927]

Genius idea!!! Looked like a great day of climbing with the family. Really love the channel. You are hilarious and make the videos fun to watch. Keep up the good work!

[@50StichesSteel]

@@AZDesertExplorer Probably because in order to make it durable enough for multiple uses and to get rated and all that climbing nonsense, they would cost and weigh a metric shit ton...The ones made for camping get mystery holes like crazy and leak all the time....That would be awesome though.

[@AZDesertExplorer]

@@50StichesSteel Didn’t think about getting rated

[@TaliwhakerRotmg]

The part with your kid is just so wholesome holy shit I can't get over how happy you must have all been

[@airyllrockwell66]

If they created an air mattress with a Kevlar outer cover this would probably be the greatest thing in bouldering history!

[@BetaClimbers]

Now we’re talking!

[@matthewjswider]

If you take a tarp to put under it you’re pretty much set. This dude isn’t the first to think of this. Not even close.

[@NailSpitt]

only works in flat terrain though

[@Ilbriccodellorsosat]

It would cost trillions

[@benerauchthase4205]

You should do that

[@tonyslewis]

super convenient until a gentle breeze steals your crashpad on a sketchy hiball project hahahahaha

[@Lalaland.001]

unless you add some tabs on it and secure it to the ground with some tent pegs and you are good to go. Also if they would use some extra thick rubber underlayer or better yet, make the whole thing of extra thick 3 mm rubber and this thing could truly change the game.

[@M0dElite]

@@Lalaland.001 The weight though...

[@tomtom4405]

@@Lalaland.001 no tent pegs not needed, you could just pile rocks on top of it ;)

[@MichaelAdamsStory]

Wrap it in tough marine carpet and it's not flying away - see kzbin.info/www/bejne/ioeXq2uQhsuSY9U

[@evanbarnes9984]

I mean, that happened to me with my Organic big pad, so they aren't immune to that either. That was an absolutely awful feeling! Good motivation to make that last move though, damn

[@masonmoen2712]

Dude you're a genius. If someone actually made a super durable, inflatable crash pad then it would save so much space and weight. Plus you could carry one insanely massive pad rather then having a group of five people each bringing a pad for highballs

[@Thrusthamster]

The problem is that it's so comfortable I'd never get up again after my flash go

[@tkevin6643]

I had the same thought . And I believe it is the future. . With an air escape valve. Tell black diamond that ,they could have a bigger logo on this climbing air mattress.

[@RubinKlein25]

I thought the same thing, I believe fire fighters also have something like that to save people from burning buildings (but in a larger size obviously)

[@Bubelmanen]

This video made me a little emotional seeing you play around with your kids. That's the type of relation bonding I wish I had with my father. Nice video!

[@FineLine-Media]

Thoroughly enjoyed that. Hope Black Diamond answers that love call.

[@snoopy23acab]

Sounds like a great idea! The only problem could be that it gets holes, but if you put a hard plastic sheet under it it could be useful.

[@R2_D]

Bro, I'm so addicted to your channel, love your content, love them feels. Only thing that trumps your cool tunes is the sound of kids the laughter. So good man.

[@DrRyanWexler]

This was frickin awesome. I hope this becomes an official climbing product with durable materials and safety ratings

[@danieljensen2626]

TBH that's a pretty good idea. Just needs a durable bottom, and a release valve so it just deflates a little instead of popping if you fall too hard.

[@joshowen88]

Instead of a release value, you could a have stretchy piece going around the pad.

[@huy801]

Or you could have a secondary chamber which fills during large falls, but then allows you to replace the displaced air from the primary chamber.

[@gordonneverdies]

I can see my girlfriend and I behind you!! Haha. Nice meeting you out there man. Best wishes to you and the fam!

[@charak953]

I'm the girlfriend!

[@kronstadt84]

@@charak953 what the fuck? He told me I was his one and only

[@diegoteixeira2003]

@@kronstadt84 same

[@Weeabruh]

This is probably the best climbing youtube content I've ever seen

[@austinthrowsstuff]

A high pressure valve would be awesome. So it makes the oshhhh without breaking it

[@BetaClimbers]

Turbo charge it!

[@iliakatster]

Like an air bag! Although, blowing it up again after every attempt would get pretty annoying

[@kaimcguire5086]

@@iliakatster constant inflation like a bounce house?

[@StoufSto]

@@kaimcguire5086 Sponge on the inside so the pressure re-inflates it.

[@MegaVagus]

Thank you, man! This episode is a pure joy 😊 you have a teleport AND a time machine?! Better not tell anybody...

[@tothepast]

Aah the sound of the forest. Birds, the wind trough the leaves of threes and people blowing up there pads everywhere

[@ohioflyer_12]

I'd recommend only filling it 90-95 percent so it's not so bouncy

[@branthansil]

That thing is already wanting to break an ankle. Making it softer will definitely break one.

[@gestaltungwolff]

The idea is absolutly fascinating we also tried it but the problem with such air beds is that if you land whit your feet first or from a great height, you will bounce off uncontrollably and crash next to the mat. Its is more like a trampolin .

[@markbryce9074]

Thoroughly enjoy your content regularly, but the absolute best part of this vid is that kid laughing!

[@shanemoney2415]

New to climbing and this was honestly my first thought as an alternative to an expensive pad.

[@rec-re-ate8723]

I love climbing...combine that with your carefree attitude and overall great vibes and ya end up with one of the best damn climbing channels out there!!! Thanks for your rad videos, BrotherMan!

[@BetaClimbers]

🤙🏻

[@timothybrodie9278]

i've been doing this! I'm pretty new to climbing and I didn't want to buy a bouldering mat as i'm mainly a rope climber so I've been taking out 2 air mattresses, not as big as yours but they do the job pretty well! i still don't really like falling, I think somethign to consider is having yours which is very high off the ground is much nicer to fall on than say camping air mats which are lower. Other weird ideas i've had include car footwell mats to wipe your feet on before climbing, if you're driving to the crag, you've already got them with you so why not put them to use. love your channel btw

[@BetaClimbers]

Lol that’s awesome I only wonder how long they will last. 🤙🏻

[@reneehudgins1964]

Don't know anything about climbing but I could listen to that baby giggle & laugh all day...

[@sexyaznboy70]

They probably have been thinking about the design of an air mattress of some kind but what a lot of people don't consider are the following: manufacturing process (how to efficiently make and process these products to the masses), design parameters (durability, ease of use, transportation, carry weight issues, and etc.), and like you said use. Cause pads right now are generally able to stack and fold onto of features that are unique but an air mattress is pretty limited with the current design. Sure you can take out some air to make it conform to the feature of the terrain but you run the risk of that deflated mattress landed really hurting when you fall on your feet. Overall I do agree that would be a great idea and concept to look into but the comparison of carrying weight & mass from a small pad vs the air mattress was huge. You definitely had to carry more stuff and required more equipment for the airmatress then just the pad. Lots to consider when going to the craf we carry our gear and other necessities

[@derKischda]

Several chambers that can be inflated individually could solve the adaptation problem.

[@raiemie7365]

I think most issues are easy to figure out exept the masse and volume this thing could take in your bag, if it's not significantly less volume and same or less mass than a crashpad, people would rather take the crashpad bc of convenience

[@drewshane5431]

Been holding off on watching this one for awhile but wishing I hadn’t. So funny and the edits are on point!

[@xmnemonic]

This is a GREAT idea, normal pads are so huge and expensive. If the air mattress and air pump are lighter than the foam pads, this could open up more backcountry areas for bouldering. There are many bouldering fields that are unused just because the approaches are too long.

[@SnowingNapalm]

actually talk to "air ups" they have this high quality material and make all sorts of paintball barriers they could make your extreme durable air mattress I don't work for them but i wish i got a commission for suggesting them

[@JohannRosario1]

You should stitch up, or glue together, two big brown tarps into a giant fitted pillow case, so that you don't puncture the mattress. Maybe use velcro to lock the mattress in.

[@cannonsovercharged]

New subscriber. I thought I recognized one of my fav scramble spots in Dagunks- but was wrong. Your fail analysis vids are awesome too. I never knew you Never Pull Out!-Congrats Brah!

[@TheRadDabber]

If you want a truly lightweight revolution, bring no pads and just never fall

[@joergbeigang]

Finally something that really helps with sit starts

[@lawleight626]

I'm 58 we have used beds, couches, cushions, air beds, water beds , bean bags , you name we've tried it . We didn't have crash pads then wish we did . Fun idea looks like a family good time . Would advise tying the bed to some rocks or tree .

[@PKNEXUS]

The way I would engineer it is, a thin crash pad base, with an inflatable air mattress built into the top. So it can handle 100s of falls, have a blow out system to release some air on impacts.

[@847MicRoss]

You mean like what a stunt person would use. Then it would require a fan to constantly blow air back into the mat. Where are you getting the power out at the crag. This is an old idea that climbing companies tossed out years ago.

[@PKNEXUS]

@@847MicRoss Exactly, Lipo batteries are fairly energy dense i.e. you can achieve 20 min flights with a custom built FPV 7'' drone on a 4200 MAH 6s battery, so could easily push air for hours.

[@rec-re-ate8723]

I use a blow up mattress when deep water soloing...not as a crash pad but to rest on between climbs and sometimes start climbing straight from the mattress.

[@Litch04]

Don't want to rain on your parade, but I need to mention some massive safety issues you and your viewers are overlooking. Firstly, because this is so squishy, there's incredible potential for a climber to roll and ankle when landing straight down (as opposed to falling on your back on an overhang like in your video). The reason pads use a layer of closed-cell foam on top is to provide a nice, sturdy landing area. If your foot can sink into it, your ankle can roll. Secondly, with any talus in your landing area, there's potential for you to just bottom out and get injured on the rocks below since this is so squishy. Pads also have closed-cell foam on the bottom to prevent this from happening. Thirdly, the thickness of this thing causes some problems. At 4:42 your heels bounce off the ground after your body already hits the pads. Obviously, you could maneuver the placement a bit better, but you still run the risk of clipping the edges of the mattress and injuring a leg, or tilting backwards off of it and hitting your head. Pads are not made thicker than 5" partly because of the potential for rolling your ankle on the edge of them. The bounciness associated with the thickness also means that if you were to fall from a higher place or with more momentum (say from a dyno) there's potential for you to bounce clear off the pad and into a potential danger zone. Not to mention issues with feasibility (such as many boulders having too tight of a landing zone to even fit one of these to begin with). Funny video, but I hope none of you throw out your crash pads.

[@MythAvatar]

I have a Snap wrap, it's more than 5" for sure. It uses an air trapping system whereby, the faster you land, the less time the air has to escape, the slower, the more. Meaning that it's more firm the larger the fall. It's perfectly designed. When he says he feels safer falling onto that blowup mattress, i think he's never fallen on a decent pad. Fallen on it from 5 meters and it was totally fine. Like being indoors. I agree with you completely.

[@mohammadhijazi4498]

The issue with it is that it's bouncy so a smaller one inflated to a higher pressure should work. Potentially with airsacs inside it instead of one large chamber to help it withstand falls on it better

[@angelobryant7947]

Was awesome to recognize the boulder. My first v6!!!!

[@angelobryant7947]

Referring to the buddha ofcourse. Andrew's roof shut me down haha

[@WaltHeenan]

Saw you guys out there on thurs. Thought the mattress was for your little buddy. Fun video. Thx.

[@lester44444]

it'd also only need to be protected on the bottom and a bit of the sides too, from rocks :O could even just be a thin layer of tarp or something!

[@alexworks9659]

Actually a quasi self inflator like the older thermarest pads with blowout vents would work as well. Not too reliant on needing to be puncture proof. Similar to a stunt fall air bag.

[@mw5360]

I've always thought that this seemed so obvious and really really ridiculous that inflatable tech isn't use. Nice one proving it works.

[@BetaClimbers]

I think there was just never a convenient way to blow them up. And no one wants to pump or blow lol

[@ShellShockedFarms]

I've literally thought this would be perfect for so long. Great video👏👏🤙

[@sendit2873]

love it man hearing the little one is awesome

[@ShallowPlane]

That crash pad is legit

[@somanayr]

The main issue I see with this is that a failure is catastrophic -- if you pop it, you go from expecting tons of cushion to having exactly zero. Perhaps this could work if you did multiple independent, vertically stacked cells?

[@britttttt_]

I think a lot of your falling energy would still be dispersed before you hit the ground, a lot of energy would already need to be transferred into the pad in order for it to pop.

[@johannessporer]

I think the idea is not bad but pointy things from below and high falls where you land feet first are it's enemies...I think an inflatable pad with a quite stiff foam layer on the top and the bottom would be great

[@J_punkt_O_punkt]

I think there was a interview w/ someone from mammut(?) in the german "klettern". When i remember correctly, they hit multiple problems: They think the pads need to be re-inflated after serious falls and are not sure if climbers would do that. If the mats are too bouncy, you introduce the very serios risk of resulting injuries (from bouncing off and from sprained ankles), ... If i remember correctly, they were experimenting with valves, that release air on big impacts. But i think a air-based product will hit the market sooner or later. BD, with their avalance-bags, should be in a good position to bring a product to market. We've seen how far inflatable products evolved with the G7 Pod Portaledge...

[@raiemie7365]

many problems I see with this alternative that should be looked into: you need something to blow it up which take space and weight in bag, the mattress when put on rock will not resist like thick fabric does and could pop, and if you make it stronger how heavy will it become, the thing doesnt really adapt to shapes but if it doesnt break its not really a problem, also does falling on pressured air feels as safe as foam ? I imagine if you dont overblow it it has to be confortable those could be easily addressed and it could be so good if it was lighter and took less place than a crashpad although having to carry a bag filled of this is not rly the best thing idk might be into something there :) you guys are so cute

[@ToyschoolsAA]

I use one to practice lj and hj and it hasn't popped yet. I put a blanket and a few big pillows down under it so it doesnt get damaged.

[@samsmith182]

this was surprisingly funny, wholesome, and cool. nice vid man

[@bentleysuper8]

This is genius. I'm looking into building a play gym in my garage and this could save me hundreds of dollars. Crash pads are so expensive.

[@Lorenz_Neumann]

Already any long-term experience? Maybe also on worse surface? Looks really good 👍

[@caspersmith3504]

As an indoor climber I always wondered why people didn't do this lmao

[@847MicRoss]

Ask yourself that when the mattress blows out and you twist your ankle.

[@sxanep]

^^^ this. It's good until if fails. When a mattress fails you are essentially hitting the ground without any protection.

[@SuperNeo]

Could you even fall from much higher if you would leave the valve open. So when you hit the mattress it would empty a little bit and allow softer landing? Of course you would need to everytime put more air to it but just thinking about doing maybe like backflip from 3 meters? :D

[@roycethompson3386]

I used to sleep on 2 different air mattresses over the course of a year. “Good ones”. Both of them, with 100% normal sleep use indoors, broke and left me on the ground in the mornings. Worse yet, if they are broken and pressure isn’t put in them for long periods of time, they can look inflated but hit the ground the moment you put pressure on it. There’s a good reason people don’t use these for climbing falls; and for anyone who values their safety, they shouldn't start

[@blastfromthepast7119]

Obviously you would keep it sufficiently inflated

[@krishbhaskara8969]

What song is playing during the montage? I would love to know it. Thanks in advance!

[@joshuaperry2388]

One hundred times -lakesha nuget

[@marathuzula9024]

Your little one geeking out bouncing is amazing, only topped by them trying to bounce you later in the video. I wonder if you could better protect it from rocks with a fire blanket base.

[@iliakatster]

I think the main issue is that if you take a big fall, you'll just bounce right off the pad onto the ground.

[@dustinnance6817]

Maybe slap your traditional pad on top? They have high density foam and I imagine everyone here has at least 1-2

[@slippi1]

Awesome video dude. Cracked me up. Plus that idea looks awesome! Crash pads are so pricey.

[@BetaClimbers]

🤙🏻

[@jakubszczeniowski8333]

You should read or watch something about mointain bike suspenson to find solution to absorb hit energy. It should be walve that will realese air when you fall on it.

[@samsneed7979]

I've owned inflatable kayaks that ran ashore over all sorts of jaggedy rocks and stayed afloat. So it's totally possible. It would be a good idea to have several chambers that ran horizontal as well as vertical. ...Also it would be a good idea to wear a helmet.

[@Donzw]

We need one that only deflates when enough force is applied to avoid popping and further cushion the fall

[@klettern_24]

That time travel thing😂😂❣️

[@dereinzigwahreRichi]

How about a big self inflating pad, like a camping mattress? They're available in up to 10cm/around 4" and should be lighter than the crashpads I know of. Actually some "pillars" of foam inside might be enough to self inflate it as thermal isolation isn't a big concern here. Or some inner structure of air filled pillars that you forcibly have to inflate but with little volume and that lift up the rest of the structure. My textile engineers mind is at work here already... :D This way you wouldnt need to bring a compressor but only blow in a few more times by mouth to fully inflate it or with a pump sack like the camping air matresses come with. And it'd need to have a valve for pressure release as stated before.

[@CoNkOrE]

I really wanted to try this for the convenience of it. It would be so much easier to pack in than big mats but I was always afraid of popping it

[@alvarosandin9784]

most wholesome video ive seen yhis month

[@jamesfennell7887]

Love it 👌 and loving ya videos here on the Isle of Man dude..... putting some of your techniques into practice.

[@sorensmrebrd1150]

need some bouncing protection, and probably not suitable for sitstarts. But for sure a good and cheap solution!

[@michaelsudak6559]

Ha! I have no fewer than 4 air mattresses that we used for camping that my pre teen kids thought would be fun to bounce on inside their tents.

[@waspgaming9077]

You're turning into the Rudy Ayoub of the climbing world.

[@TONOCLAY]

Make it about the same size with a structure inside that can compress to store but when you open it, it inflates rapidly and then when you crash it lets a bunch of air out then it auto re-inflates again. That way you don't have to care around a pump. And also stealing from someone elses idea below Kevlar or something similar around the bottom at least to keep from having to carry a blanket with you.

[@fuyiy]

I don't think fully inflatables like that would work well in many situations, but I hope they make some pads that auto inflate a bit so they could take up less space. If they'd be at maybe 40-50% inflation that'd make a huge difference. All of a sudden you could carry double the amount of pads...

[@MarkusSojakka]

Its nice but it should have 2 air leayers so if one pops while you are climbing highball u still safe. And I think that this is only good for overhangs.

[@wyliesmith1653]

Head out the bag was funny as hell!! 😂😂😂

[@firetip198]

"cloud 9" for high jump and pole vaulting had a fan and when you landed on it the air would gush out of the fan and then the fan would refil the pad... they were replaced by foam pads... maybe you need some air to escape through a relief valve... then fill it and go again!

[@TerjeMathisen]

This is a small version of the snowboarder's Big Bag, large enough to catch the landing after a failed jump.

[@davidrajchman7162]

maybe try it with slightly lower pressure to make it more absorbent of those crashes

[@TheRelaxingInukshuk]

Baby laughs are priceless. And this is a pretty nice boulder :)

[@50StichesSteel]

I would love it if a climbing company made one durable enough to use like that...The one you have looks like nice quality too...Problem with using the cheap air mattresses is they leak like Edward Snowden on Wikileaks. It could be fine fine one camping trip, then you store it for a few months and go to use it again and all of the sudden the thing won't inflate for shit lol..Air mattresses are notorious for getting magical leaks out of nowhere and for no reason..It would be awesome if a company made a heavy duty one though.

[@BetaClimbers]

Hey skateboards break there $50 Dollar decks all day long and have to buy new ones 🤣 it’s about time boulders pop some bags! It’s the cost of doing business out under these rocks lol I really think I need to thoroughly test this idea out to Failure now 😂

[@awkwardturtle77]

they're pretty durable. My nieces have abused two inflatable mattresses for over 3 years and they've still got no holes. This is with them landing on them from cannonballs and belly flops off the couch.

[@phillipwaters7716]

That was a great video man! Black Diamond will be calling you if they are smart...

[@hwangmic]

It looks nice and fancy, but I just have a couple concerns with using this before it become mainstream. How do you prevent it from flying away in the breeze when you aren't able to tether it down? What happens if it fails by bursting or leaking? What do you do if there are sharp fragments of rock that get stuck inside when you carry it around once you've folded it?

[@cffmailbox]

The haul bag scenes are GOLD brother

[@realrockkerry2239]

Would less pressure in the mattress provided a softer fall? ... but probably blow the valve or seams!

[@Emil_Ortiz]

Haha great vid man. Really good content!

[@outdoorrackbuilder9509]

Black diamond Impact dimensions in the vid description should be: 39 x 45 x 4 in

[@YannCamusBlissClimbing]

Great vid man! Loved the edit, music, everything!

[@bigchickenking9576]

Talking about music, do you by any chance know the name of the song that is playing during the climbing montage?

[@YannCamusBlissClimbing]

@@bigchickenking9576 I have no idea! Maybe @betaclimbers can tell? Cheers!!

[@tobimathi2941]

Just do it like the locals in Fountaine Bleau and put a little towel on the ground to start from 😛

[@paulgaras2606]

this is the daddest climbing video on youtube.

[@joepvanderven4882]

I was just thinking about this couple weeks back. If you can make a blow up pad with an extra reinforced underside and extra strong seams you should be golden right?

[@tylerweddel4337]

Just use a high drop pad. Like they use in movies "its out of frame" when they jump or fall from 100' +

[@jdpmov]

I NEED TO KNOW THAT SONG, perfect vibes

[@N1ceM8]

great video...just wanna ask what's the name of the song

[@BetaClimbers]

One Hundred Times-LaKesha Nugent

[@mountbeckworth1]

Been doing it for years, in Australia. Also Ikea make a kid's gym mat that folds out into 5 sections, Australian $21, so yankee $11.

[@adibanerjee6975]

Your kids laugh makes this video even better haha

[@bowlcut880]

3:41 I've never seen anyone start Andrew's Problem that way. Is that like a sit start that increases the grade?

[@BetaClimbers]

I didn’t know what I was doing I was just playing around never really did much of the bouldering in the gunks.

[@rockclimbing3844]

HahahahHHHHHHH... that's the one thing I'm always nervous about falling when bouldering is the thickness of the pad and where it's at

[@H1Hummer]

Very cute video with the kids. 💕