I just found the other Glamrock Freddy

When Ruin came out we were given the question: Are there two Glamrock Freddies? This resulted from our Freddy having the word prototype labeled on the bottom of his foot. While the community, including myself, came to realize that they were the same Freddy, Steel Wool didn't want to drop the topic. By looking at the cold storage minigame in Help Wanted 2, we can see that there might just be another Glamrock Freddy after all. By comparing the two Freddies, and looking at clues left in Security Breach, I came to the conclusion that they were not the same.
If you take problem to my findings, or found that I got something wrong, please let me know in the comments in a respectful manner.
#Fnaf #fnafsecuritybreach #fnafruin #fnafhelpwanted2 #fnaftheories

[@franchezq_1665]

Freddy: *on the verge of a existential crisis and is about to break it down* Gregory: "L ratio didn't ask, stfu"

[@Lightning.S]

To think the fnaf community has to think so much because of a different FOOT really goes to show how dedicated someone can be. But please Steel Wool, start making stuff make sense.

[@fortunecookie4080]

would that be fnaf though?

[@PandaSlothProductions]

MatPat started out by looking for differences on the animatronics feet and now we’re doing it again. We’ve come full circle💀💀

[@michaelcoldwater7147]

There is 2 Charlie’s and many same names Some times there is punctuation and misspelling or lore errors in the books

[@Mocha_haze]

no it does make sense

[@Lightning.S]

@@fortunecookie4080 I mean, I don't mind having to solve puzzles to understand the story, that's why I love fnaf. But for this kind of system to work the games must be consistent (like fnaf 1, 2, 3 and 4). But now they change the lore in every new game, that's not how you do that imo.

[@jayfox8765]

I adore the joke where you asked prototype Freddy if he got a new haircut then cutting straight to the death animation without saying a word. You get a like for that alone.

[@richardkirkland6805]

The thing about Freddy's hatch being for birthday cakes... He specifically stated OVERSIZED birthday cake. I don't know about you, but the cake holder in HW2 looked to hold a more standard sized cake to me.

[@AngelDelight69]

Perhaps there are three versions then One for smaller One for oversized Prototype Or maybe it's just Fazbear Entertainment calling small oversized

[@UnderseaRexieVT]

I mean, it's a longshot, but maybe he has some programming from Funtime Freddy, where an oversized cake is also the approximate size of a child.

[@d3str0i3r]

@@UnderseaRexieVT you're close to my theory, we do have an animatronic in sister location with a chest hatch, known to carry cold treats, who is about the right dimensions to hold a child what if prototype freddy is a freddy built on the circus baby endo?

[@CalamityEvermore]

"Just a little off the top" I said -Glamrock Freddy

[@supercat765]

An interesting theory. But I am not sure the lack of ice-cream cake storage equipment is that strong as evidence for it being a different Freddy. It could reasonably be a removable compartment. Freddy does not need an internal freezer when on stage, the last activity he was doing before the start of security breach. So to enhance mobility they would probably just disengage the freezer compartment. to put back in when it is to be used next.

[@lexus9642]

This would also make sense as it’s not just birthday cakes the stomach hatch is for. He says it’s also for piñatas. It would make sense if the inside could be removed to allow for other things to fit in. Also, if the technology is faulty, they would probably only use it when needed to save on maintenance

[@theslaya1576]

​@@lexus9642what about the coils tho?

[@lexus9642]

@@theslaya1576 I took that as being part of the removable section, possible the part that connects it to Freddy

[@HackerBilly13]

I actually didn't even know about that dialogue in Parts and Services! Noone ever brings that up. That's so cool! I wish more people brought that up! That adds so much more to Glamrock Freddy

[@KaliTakumi]

I'm pretty sure Game Theory already brought that one up

[@enderking3031]

Matpat looks at the amount of toes he looks at everything

[@cleaveuntome42]

Also Freddy says "am I special" !! I wonder if that matters

[@i.m.b4398]

Considering the whole “what makes you so special” line beeing repeated over and over..i bet it’s important!!

[@TheCollector2401]

This is a really good video, however there is one problem with it. The Prototype/Ruin Glamrock Freddy has sharper spikes on his arm bands than normal Glamrock Freddy. He also has sharper claws on his endo’s hands and feet than a normal Glamrock Endo. Making it impossible for the Glamrock Freddy from SB and HW2 to be the prototype.

[@TheLogicist]

I wasn't saying that Help Wanted 2's Freddy was the prototype Freddy.

[@TheCollector2401]

@@TheLogicist Oops misspoke there, but my point about the shell and endo of prototype Freddy being different from normal Freddy still stands.

[@syweb2]

@@TheCollector2401 Roxanne's wires change color between Security Breach and Ruin, Roxanne and Chica's lower endo jaws change from a bent metal rectangle with hinges to "standard" endo jaws both during Security Breach and between that and Ruin, and Ruined Freddy's hand claws look very similar to Monty's exposed endo claws in Ruin. I think at least a couple of Ruined Freddy's details can be chalked up to results form his upgrades (claws) or minor design inconsistencies similar to the other glamrocks (armbands and feet claws).

[@Jamiera475]

I personally think the prototype Freddy and our Freddy are not the same Freddy, the bracelets on the prototype have sharp spikes, our freddy lacks such spikes, and if our Freddy was the prototype and the prototype text was just painted over and it faded over time, the text wouldn’t be nearly as clear as it is

[@kkplushproductions]

The lightning bolt on his torso is also thinner.

[@OcarinaLink24]

Yooo the spike thing is actually pretty damning. I didn’t notice that before.

[@jan_harald]

to be fair, that is just the shell...which as he comments, can be just swapped onto another endo... just like you can swap out freddy's eyes, claws, etc during game, it'd be expected that a proper technician could just replace the whole shell, we know the endoskeletons are literally the bare skeletons trained to become a character, and suited up, just like the mimic learns by itself, and wears its own costumes

[@strawberryjess]

Also it takes more time to put that on the foot then not and u have to go out your way to do that also along with the other differences and people in the comments mentioned I agree it can’t be can I explain why it’s a different Freddy no but I’m sure there is one

[@GuyllianVanRixtel]

@@strawberryjess Punctuation my guy, punctuation.

[@Rat_Disease]

While the theory of the reason Freddy breaks down is pretty good one of your bigger pieces of evidence has an explanation. The frozen Endo was actually planned to be in SB’s Cold Storage as Gregory has an unused line mentioning a frozen Endo. It’s likely that they just put the unused model there for no big reason, but the connection would be cool if intentional (pun intended laugh now)

[@iswearimnormal6681]

Not sure if I fully believe it, but it's a great theory. I haven't seen any other theories answer the frozen endo and "I am not me" as well as this one did

[@aedaniammx7559]

Honestly I was thinking you would say that the ORIGINAL Freddy was the one that broke down on stage, and the prototype is the one that wakes up in the green room, but honestly I still think this is an interesting idea. The only real gripe I can find with it is that in this scenario, the “prototype” words are on his SHELL, not the endo, meaning the word prototype would’ve been on the original’s shell too, since it’s implied they keep the shells and just put them on new endos

[@TheLogicist]

Yeah, I definitely think there's more to the word Prototype showing up on his foot. A lot about the animatronics and the pizzaplex itself changes between the base game of Security Breach and Ruin. There's a good chance there's a time period in between, witch Help Wanted 2 seems to indicate, where this word would of been written on Freddy.

[@matthewmartinez3550]

My theory is that it is tied to the Vanni mask. It is a tool for technicians, so having a function that gives a label to shells holding a prototype endo would seem convenient.

[@efad3215]

​@matthewmartinez3550 But the VANNI mask is disabled in the maze when you first meet Freddy

[@matthewmartinez3550]

@@efad3215 Ah, got mixed up then. Still, I'm pretty sure I recall some AR objects kinda blending in with the real world, and we can still see Helpi out of the mask, so there is a degree of real vision alteration.

[@higueraft571]

@@matthewmartinez3550 >and we can still see Helpi out of the mask Yeah, there's a chip jammed in Cassie's head

[@paranaenselol]

Btw the cake holder in freddy is not part of the endo, its a sepparate piece in the game files. Also all the glamrocks have coolant, theres some blue tubes in all animatronics to transfer coolant, and a coolant box in the back of their chest, so it functions like a AC or fridge refrigerant liquid

[@jefesusmuel8392]

you know the theory gets good when it has the fnaftuber explaining how fridges work to you.

[@electrobob992]

I just hope steel wool will just directly answer things in the next game. Like is the Mimic and Burntrap really the same thing, or is one afton and the other a mimic based off him. Did Roxy actually die, or did she survive. Was gregory truly the one to break the elevator, or was it something done by the Mimic and possibly the blob.

[@ThePr0_PL]

gregory: casualy breaks the Elevator using his radio

[@AngelDelight69]

And how does Cassie use the elevator when Freddy says if won't survive another trip. It's so inconsistent. Mimic is similar to burntrap And an elevator that was said to only be used once works again. It's things like this that start to make me question if ruin is a prequel to SB. There's so many various inconsistencies that don't make sense. Like daycare tiles that don't even appear in security breach. The welcome sign is different. The elevator is usable. But surely it can't be a prequel because of the drawings

[@higueraft571]

>Like is the Mimic and Burntrap really the same thing Absolutely not. The endos are just completely different, not to mention different areas. If they WERE the same, there'd have to be some kind of hint like bits of Springtrap or flesh, but there isnt. >Was gregory truly the one to break the elevator, or was it something done by the Mimic Very likely seems to be the Mimic, considering it has a panel to access RIGHT THERE, that hooks into the Elevator and likely the full network (and it has nothing to fend it off now). The Speaker squeals before the final segment where Greggory tells you he cant be followed and kills you, implying it changed channels or such. There's even lines in the code for a DIFFERENT chunk in exactly that place which implies this. (Used, presumably the Mimic speaking) "It's not your fault. I know you did it for me. To save me… but we can't risk being followed. I'm sorry." (Unused, presumably the "real" message cut off) "It's not your fault. I know you did it for me. To save me... but make sure it doesn't follow you."

[@higueraft571]

@@AngelDelight69 >And an elevator that was said to only be used once works again. Admittedly, this DOES assume they used the Elevator, or that this included not bringing an extremely heavy animatronic down with them. If it were just Greggory and MAYBE Vanessa, that'd be far less weight to put a strain on the Elevator, extending it's lifespan. More so if it's just Greggory. >Mimic is similar to burntrap Really isnt, gonna be honest. The only similarity is a single hand which still has some differences.

[@PATIENTX790]

:definition of the FNAF lore and franchise: ...meat pretzel

[@henrigatos2010]

finaly someone who says that glamrock freddy from security breach isn't the same from help wanted 2. freddy in sb is so nice when in hp2 he's super sassy for no reason (i mean sun's also preety sassy in that game)

[@rexspecificallyredrex64rem73]

That is very consistent though, all of the animatronics in security breach are way more hostile, or just rude and impatient with the actual employees, which is very consistent to fnaf lore. From day 1, the rules have always been that the animatronics are Friendly to children, Wary of Adults, and outright Hostile to staff. The reason why is more so because of the missing kids searching for their killer, and being unable to differentiate who, having never seen the purple guy's face. They're like this in general though, see Roxy's reactions to Cassie vs Gregory as it's been memed. Sun in particular is a very big example, it's almost as if he actually hates you in help wanted 2, to the point he actually threatens you. Which is probably just him not liking the staff messing with his stuff, as my assumption. The books also note that the glitchtrap virus exaggerated the glamrock's character flaws, and Glamrock Freddy's was that he acts like a spoiled brat and throws petty crybaby tantrums.

[@mrnaibcampbell]

its consistent, theres a cut line where freddy gets sassy with gregory over a vent, id hust say SW wanted to keep him friendly towards gregory in SB

[@higueraft571]

@@rexspecificallyredrex64rem73 >The reason why is more so because of the missing kids searching for their killer They are not haunted by the MCI. If anything, the MCI is the feral blob of Remnant and scrap down in the FNAF 6 location that's probably damn near gone mad between the soul splitting and spending nearly *50 years* as they are :V

[@Sp00kyBones]

This is a very interesting theory, though I wouldn't take the HW model details too seriously. In HW 1, all of the FNaF 1 animatronics have alternate models that drastically change the endoskeletons and even suits to add many new details, for the sake of the gameplay mechanics. Otherwise, you do have some fairly strong points here!

[@ИльяНедбаев-у3н]

1st hw is game for in universe people to "clarify" myths and legends as not true so they won't represent animatronics 1 to 1. 2nd hw is for new employes so they will have idea what works and how so i would say that company would represent internals more carefully

[@Sp00kyBones]

@@ИльяНедбаев-у3н I'm not taking from a lore perspective, I'm talking from a *gameplay* perspective. The changes look to have been made for gameplay purposes, as the original SB models were not made with the intent of HW repair-esc minigames, and of course would require being altered to work properly in the minigames. Overall, I don't think there *is* a lore reason for this design change, because it was not intended as one. (I should note, this is my personal opinion, and I don't want to force it upon you. I just felt the need to explain my reasoning)

[@higueraft571]

@@Sp00kyBones Honestly, could even argue a bit of the same for Ruin Animatronics too i'd say. Slight design changes if not errors (like the SLIGHTLY thinner bolt on Freddy), to general overhauls that are unlike anything in SB (eg Roxy and Monty), especially since there's going to be a lot more Endo showing. What DOES feel more convincing is the fact the torso and head match *exactly* what we'd see if Princess Quest was the Canon ending... Really, the only outlier is the Present in there, but apparently Freddy just *has* those. (One big detail everyone ignores when it comes to this is the fact that Greggory was inside Freddy's chest, then on-demand he spits out a gift with a Fazwatch in that same torso, not to mention he even has a Pass lying around if you continue past 6 AM, stored somewhere after you've been in there)

[@biscutboi813]

I don't grasp how that solves the problem with the word on the foot. The Freddy in Security Breach doesn't have that on his foot, and the rest of his paint isn't worn off so I don't see why it'd wear off just on the bottom of his foot to reveal the same color underneath?

[@frostbitetheannunakiiceind6574]

Exactly he never answered that

[@Mustangconcept]

Yea, like whats the point of all the bare endos and the whole endo "school" to teach them not to hurt kids if they aren't there to replace the existing glamrocks when they malfunction. If it was just the glamrocks themselves they would repair the existing ones instead of reshelling the newer endos

[@SnarkyTeaSipper]

That is literally my thought too. Those endos must be here for an actual in universe reason rather than just a gameplay one. And unfortunately, this is why I cannot fathom the missing Glamrock Bonnie storyline at all. Yes, replacing him with Monty would be easier, but in the long run, remodelling the entire Pizzaplex to accommodate Monty instead of Bonnie is just going to be a bigger sink of time and money. Why didn’t they use another endo and make another Bonnie from scratch? What was the point of the cover up? If there’s two Freddy’s, why no duplicates of literally anyone else, if or when they also malfunction?

[@TheLogicist]

I think it just has to do with the actual casing for the animatronics. We see in Ruin that Bonnie's casing is heavily damaged, so they wouldn't just be able to put in on another endo. The same thing could of happened with the HW2 Freddy. It seems the endos are just there to receive past down casing, as their are no duplicates located anywhere in the pizzaplex. As far as we know, the actual endos of the characters could have been replaced several times without them, or us knowing.

[@SnarkyTeaSipper]

@@TheLogicist I suppose that does make sense, considering the state Bonnie was found in. However, for example, the message log MONTY MISCHIEF suggests that Monty had been knocked down by the hurricane bucket and had his legs broken before. I’m not entirely sure if that means his leg casings were shattered like in the game, or his endo legs just snapped at the joints, but he had been fixed before. Not to mention that every part of Bonnie, except his head and his cape, is more or less a copy of Freddy or Monty’s base shell (why he’s not depicted with claws, despite needing claws to play bass, is beyond me). So there must at least be a pool of basic shell parts to work from if Monty’s legs were able to be repaired the first time around. It would take more time and money to make a new head piece from scratch, but at the start of the base game, the announcement said the Pizzaplex was temporarily shut for scheduled maintenance anyway. Choosing to completely renovate the Pizzaplex for a new character just seems like the more expensive, time consuming and intrusive conclusion they could have gone for, and doesn’t seem like the “sweep it under the rug” or “fix it with duct tape for cheap” tactic Fazbear Entertainment would go for. The only way I can see them completely erasing a character like that is if they are liable to get Fazbear Entertainment another lawsuit from causing disturbance or harm to the public (i.e. Fredbear, the Toys esp. Mangle) Although, did the staff actually ever find Bonnie’s body after he was axed off, or was it actually hidden from them this whole time? Sorry this is so long

[@JinxD4Jester]

I see it a bit differently. The freddy that gregory bonds with, is the stage performing one. The one with the cake, is for birthday partys. Thats my theory :)

[@psychedelicfr0g]

this video is AWESOME. I've put over 100 hours into security breach but I have never taken freddy to the room with the endoskeletons. (i avoid that section like the plague) this video REALLY calms my brain because the foot is just, so hard to explain otherwise.

[@SouMorse]

Maybe the "I found myself when I cleared the path." is the Mimic's memories, like Baby in the books that remember being both Elizabeth and Baby. Freddy had animatronic parts infected with the Mimic, maybe he's remember being the Mimic trapped and also being Freddy and clearing the path and finding the Mimic, which is why he remembers finding himself, and why he says he's not himself.

[@SpadesG]

In ruin when Cassie finds "ruin freddy" he has proto type marked on the bottom on one of his feet. I think the headless freddy is are freddy, and the help wanted freddy is the finished version of are freddy. Man i didn't think you could take freddy to those locations ive only taken freddy to bonnie bowl.

[@Birdsong231]

I was gonna ask who in their right mind lets a _prototype_ run loose, but then I remembered...this is Fazbear Entertainment we're talking about. Ethics is not in their list of priorities. Nevermind! 😂

[@TheNeuroticnathan]

i like this theory and it makes me think of when freddy sees the endo warehouse he questions if he is the only freddy, and we know a frozen endo was scrapped as a challenge in the game what if freddy was going to meet his prior version in the original game concept.

[@alexxkenshin]

Technically, the prototype would have to be the one frozen because we don’t see the body frozen. We only see the head and prototype. Freddy is missing the head meaning the one that Gregory does bond with is the official Freddy finalize version made too replace the prototype

[@Joshchive]

I think I know what you are going for, but I want to try and layout a timeline of events in a more cohesive way. So before the events of Security Breach, *our* Freddy was not originally Freddy, as he was simply just a spare endo (after all in Parts and Service we are told twice that Endo's are easily interchangeable. "Monty will run the shows till we can slap your casing on a new endo." and "What if I am not the first Glamrock Freddy? Am I a Monty with a different shell?"). Freddy originally was a spare endo, but specifically while he was a spare endo, he was used to clear the path in the sinkhole (we know spare endos were used fo clear the path, obviously he wasn't Freddy yet when he did it, we can also see spare endos still in the sinkhole during the Burntrap ending). He was used as a spare endo to clear the path. However, later the Glamrock Freddy that was being used had cooling problems, causing him to be put out of service for the time, and the prototype spare endo, now *our* Freddy is made into the new Glamrock Freddy as a replacement. However, it appears he was given new memories from the previous Freddy model (A La Glamrock Bonnie, Cake Hatch etc.). Anyways, Security Breach takes place, our Freddy doesn't have the proper functionalities as the original Glamrock Freddy, causing him to error and crash. Security Breach takes place and by the end of the game, Freddy slowly regains his memories of what he was before Freddy (at least if you do the Burntrap route) and he realizes, he is not him, he is not Freddy, was simply a spare prototype endo used to clear the path and later repurposed as the new Glamrock Freddy after the original couldn't function properly. Even though the Princess Quest ending was the canon event, the backstory still applies and by the time we find Freddy's remains, his mark of what he truly is is now on full display.

[@TimothyGonzalez-qd9jg]

Makes sense that there are multiple, in case one gets the mangle treatment.

[@Wolfpack611]

Hm, so maybe they ended up putting the program of the freddy that crashed trying to run a code it couldnt run into the prototype freddy's shell, and so when you find it in ruin, because its been doing nothing but sitting there, it finally got enough resources to run the code, which caused it to attack

[@otkucorner8274]

I mean, it kinda makes sense, because of Freddy's existential crisis line when in the daycare's endo room

[@shortfnafhead]

blud got a haircut

[@GlitchCableYt]

Nah it’s a head cut 💀💀🙏🙏

[@estebangutierrez160]

He got a haircut, Happy Tree Friends style.

[@HatMeister]

These are all very good points and you've convinced me for now, but I have one question on my mind. The question is simply, "Why?" What is Steel Wool cooking that this would be a detail worth finding? I'd like to think they didn't just do it so they could have the one Help Wanted 2 minigame. I have some cool ideas of things they could do with this. I just hope they do it right if they are going down this path.

[@marioalbertomoreno3819]

Of course there are 2 Freddy's, Markiplier already discovered them in his playthrough, the second Freddy is behind the level 10 security door at the main hall xD

[@tenchihira]

It’s also not too hard to believe that there would be multiple copies of the animatronics at the pizzeria. Take Disneyland, that place is too huge to have just one of the more popular characters, so there are a few at least so that they can be seen in multiple places. Them still having the prototype around makes sense with the scope of the pizza plex and the Enzo daycare.

[@suhaylcarvalho3563]

Not a bad idea, makes sense too for Freddy not being controlled by the Afton virus.

[@ThethreeBrosShow-br6vw]

Now instead of opening and closing my fridge to see when the light turns off, I’m not gonna look for these wires now. Thanks New MatPat 😂

[@jaxdagamer7594]

This makes me happy, it would be so sad to see the SC Freddy get so damaged like the one in Ruin, he doesn't deserve that fate.

[@TokyoDrift456]

i mean the canon ending seems to be the princess quest ending yknow the one where vanny orders the staffbots to dissassemble freddy, and by the end the only thing left of him is his face

[@kennedylo]

Doesn't Roxy's faceplate have a different design than the original? If so, using the faceplate, eye socket, or face construction should not be used as evidence since it's possible Steel Wool is just changing designs. (At this point, the constant change in design is just a FNAF brand and a reminder that FNAF grew into a franchise built to keep people interested in backstory that is constantly changing. I think the intention is just to make FNAF a game without a clear end just to milk the name of FNAF). My thoughts aside, pointing out the stomach hatch could be evidence that Gregory is a robot hacker/engineer. Or Security Breech Glamrock (SBG) Freddy's missing stomach cake could be proof that SBG Freddy has been tampered with for far longer than he is aware. Although I am not fully convinced, you have a point, staff could upload code into endos for replacement purposes.

[@zeltech-alpha]

The different faceplate is shown in HW2 as being something Roxy herself attached and is not original to her design in any of the games.

[@kennedylo]

@@zeltech-alpha Ah, thanks for mentioning Help Wanted Roxy! Even if one considers HW Roxy, my point still stands, FNAF as a game franchise is known to retcon or change things from its earlier games by "fixing lore" in the next book or game in the series.

[@Datswagfella.]

Although there most likely is 2 Freddy’s there’s one small problem with your theory…Freddy in security breach doesn’t have the prototype label on his foot that is really easy to see every time you upgrade Glamrock Freddy

[@romywilliam8591]

The one in security breach is just a prototype, maybe they were testing for errors. Roxy got a whole redesign in Ruin.

[@Nightfoxx444]

Roxy used a mask.

[@romywilliam8591]

@@Nightfoxx444 no, her Endo doesn't ever have a spek of her original, not because of a mask, but because she got redesigned.

[@romywilliam8591]

@@Nightfoxx444 I am not in the mood for a long debate over a small redesign.

[@MPie-zh6tp]

The problem is it’s supposed to be the same Freddy because for one he’s not on the security grid in the first game, which is why he can’t see Vanny and doesn’t wanna hurt Gregory so when you put the Vanny mask on that’s why he disappears. Also, the princess quest ending is canon which is why for one his body is found where it is and also he has no head.

[@amon7843]

Freddy 1: funtime Freddy Freddy 2: the prototype glam rock Freddy Freddy 3: the non prototype but basically dead if this theory is true.

[@GuavaMarshmellow]

As soon as you said "Where else have we seen a frozen animatronic?" I had a revelation. It was like I solved all of fnaf even though i did absolutely nothing and I'm just watching a video explaining it to me.

[@TheFoxdaWa]

The "prototype" thing on his foot is just an explanation of how every animatronic was affected by the virus except him

[@TA_Flame]

If all that was the problem with the 'original' Glamrock Freddy was the endoskeleton, why would the 'new' one be using a 'prototype' casing/suit? Wouldn't it be using the old casing? For a company who covers up past events, something as small as the word "prototype" on the sole of a suit may not be much, but I think it's unlikely they'd just overlook that. Plus, if they had the old casing, they could have just used that.

[@TheGamer-mb8gr]

Right after the last princess quest game you go strait to the ending witch means the gift box could not be replaced

[@xxartsyxx1208]

The ruin Freddy also has a different color palette when compared to the normal Freddy His red parts are more pink And the teal parts have a more blueish color as well Just wanted to point these out to possibly show that they are different characters

[@CosmicStardust2025]

That fact is due to having parts fade in color overtime. It can happen to how they lose their color

[@higueraft571]

Considering most things are faded in Ruin...

[@Adventist1997]

Seems pretty logical to me. But how do you explain this!? Points to Freddy's present in Ruin.

[@higueraft571]

>Points to Freddy's present in Ruin. He can just Make Them, apparently. Like the one at the VERY start of Security Breach. Greggory was inside his chest, yet after getting out there's magically a whole gift with the Fazwatch in there. And if you choose to stay, he just HAS a pass, in the chest cavity you've absolutely been in, with no gifts or items visible.

[@nicolafone776]

I thought I was the only one who thought there were two Freddys.

[@callibor3119]

This is proof that Cassie’s dad is not dead. Everyone is assuming that he is dead, but he was behind the fixing of the animatronics during the events of Security Breach. ‘Was’ was assumed by many as him “passing away” when the events were happening since the very prototype was glitching out. It is because he glitched out and was given a new AI upgrade from the others is why he was not as affected by Glitch Trap’s hacks like the other’s did. And I think Cassie is in the same scenario as her own father and she is going to realize that soon enough that they are under a secret operation of their own by Michael himself.

[@SuperDead82]

i mean in one of the golf levels there is a freddy in a trash can i always saw as: they throw the one from the into the trash can took the one from there to freddys room and that is why he is on safe mode

[@ComicBoi11]

I still think Security Breach would be so much better of the story focused on manufactured consciousness

[@ikirbeeburgr]

This is actually a poppy playtime crossover and they’re teasing that the prototype is actually Freddy fazbear

[@katiequeen2275]

i personally took the prototype marking to mean the shell is a prototype (making ruined freddy a different freddy) since vanessa says they’ll just slap his shell on a new endo, meaning they only have one proper freddy shell, and the prototype shell was a proto-look for freddy

[@Taro_Yanada]

Cake Freddy's "death" is so 1000 Ways to Die xd

[@rainbowbrony12]

1.) I don't think its a fair comparison to compare the base Freddy from SB to the one used in a minigame years later. There will of course be additions or differences so that the minigame Freddy can be adapted into it. 2.) This is just a nitpick, but refrigerators DO pump in cold air. Yes, they keep heat out like you said, but your refrigerator isn't just magically cold inside. That's why they run on electricity to begin with.

[@TheGamer-mb8gr]

The Freddy in ruin is different then the Freddy in the base game because when you get caught by the Freddy in the dlc you will see it still has its gift box but the one in the beginning of the base game gave us his gift box Witch was the faz watch

[@Gamer_Doge-doesStuff]

Not me comparing the computers teeth to geometry dash wave sections

[@witherboss_8784]

While I do agree that there are two Freddy's, I think it's a little different than how you put it. I think the Freddy from Ruin and the Freddy from SB are two separate Freddy's, and in reality the Prototype label on the foot is the nail in the coffin for that. The one piece of evidence for me that makes your theory about two different Freddy's during the stage accident is that Vanessa calls Freddy out for it right at the beginning of the game. She was aware of the crash, so she would've been aware if they switched out a Freddy. I don't mean to rain on your parade because I like the evidence you point out. The whole cake thing is really interesting and might be important. Keep making theories, in my opinion theories are just made to make people think critically.

[@buzzingamer8326]

When Freddy says " I found myself for the first time" some people think that he means he found his human body down there, and the frozen end was a scrapped model that's why it was in the box, it was meant as an Easter egg. I don't think there are two Freddys but that's just my personal opinion. Great Video!

[@Puddor]

As much as using endo details should be possible, we have the FNAF 2 Withereds > FNAF 1 Cast and Springtrap > Scraptrap. Design details like this can’t really be used as substantial evidence, sadly…

[@jakneez]

It’s actually the same Freddy. They changed the Glam Endo design, so they could’ve changed Freddy’s design too.

[@DerFalke86]

Okay i see your point in pointing out the the old freddy prototype is in the box and got dismenteled and they replaced him with a new version how ever that would explain though why they would take the old freddy out of the box and put him in his old malfunctioning shell again with the prototype on the foot, or maybe the true ending is actually the animated one and thats why they took the old freddy out again because the new one was missing, if we had the 3 stars ending where gregory takes the head of freddy with him then why not just replace the head and replace the entire animatronic that would make much sense would it

[@stijnVDA1994]

I remember that steel wool said that the prototype is actually not the freddy from the the base game..

[@Yeepingmonkey]

Actually in my opinion the endo he talked about that was frozen was yes an endo with the same memories but freddy said “am I a Monty in a diffrent shell” meaning they can be switched out so the one that’s frozen over is his birthday endo with the birthday cake compartment and the one we see freddy using in security breach is the preforming endo since he has no reason to put anything in his hatch it is simply empty to save on weight to allow him to move and preform better and the one we see in ruin could be his replacement after he was destroyed but since they didn’t have any other freddy they had to use the prototype one

[@sakura368]

the fnaf community is very very dedicated

[@generaltage4936]

I believe! But do the Game Theorists know about this?

[@theprinceofawesomeness]

I 100% belive this, i just wish we would have more clear awnsers

[@PandaSlothProductions]

“I am not me.”

[@cleaveuntome42]

Makes 100% sense. Also, isn't Help Wanted 2 story before securty breach?

[@TheLogicist]

It's weird. The ending of Help Wanted 2 is after security breach, but the mini games happen at various different times.

[@electrobob992]

Pretty sure it was after considering some mini games occur after Gregory left. Like Roxy/Chica being broken. But before Ruin

[@daphnetrodon]

I always assumed that Help Wanted 2 happens after Security Breach and before Ruin, since it explains how Roxy got her mask and the origin of Maskbot. with that in mind, maybe the Freddy in the HW2 minigame IS the prototype we see running loose in Ruin having lost its head somehow, and SB Freddy already left? that would explain all the differences in design, and the word ‘prototype’ being stamped on the foot could have been put there to hint to the audience that it wasn’t our Freddy.

[@higueraft571]

@@electrobob992 Pretty sure before, during, AND after

[@BunBit_]

While the arguments sorrounding the Help Wanted 2 endoskeleton are fair (although I personally disagree), the frozen Endo in the office is not a good piece of evidence. Why? Well, the pieces dont match HW2 GlamFreddy, for one, but they also come from a scrapped section of the game where a boiler room would be explored. In a room above it, a frozen endo would be present, holding a FazCam. This is just reusing assets. My issue with the Burntrap ending monologue being about Freddys self discovery is that it is clearly meant to be a big reveal, while the "Prototype" storyline isnt actually present in Security Breach beyond some obscure hints that might not even be hints.

[@dhlabsgaming1065]

I actually agree with this! It makes sense!

[@zgmfx-09a]

What makes you think the circles on his arms were there for gameplay reasons but the simon says minigame(also the reason why the display cables aren't colored red) is an actual thing on the real robot

[@higueraft571]

>is an actual thing on the real robot ...for gameplay purposes, like HW2

[@zgmfx-09a]

@@higueraft571 ?

[@higueraft571]

@@zgmfx-09a The Simon Says Minigame is for Gameplay Purposes, not part of the actual Design. Same as the Gameplay Elements for HW2

[@zgmfx-09a]

@@higueraft571 Yes that's what I said, verbatim, I'm asking the youtuber why he thinks the wires which are likely a different color due to the simon says minigame aren't just a gameplay change. If the wires WERE colorful like they are in HW2 they would likely interfere with the color oriented minigame.

[@ratman5858]

"I just did something already Uncovered in the launch of the dlc" the whole "I DID THIS!" clickbait is so damn plaguing

[@Begalfridays]

Bro is the new matpat

[@ainthappening3029]

I wanted to point something out that kinda irks me about the cold storage minigame. Freddy claims his occular fluid is frozen and he can't see you, yet he scolds you when you pick up the other cake when you're not supposed to. I know it's just a little joke/easter egg thing, but how does he know you're touching the cake if he can't see you? Also, what do you think of the theory that the three OG character Glamrocks (Freddy, Bonnie, Chica) used to be their toy varients? I think Roxy might also be included in that, as she has a Funtime Foxy plush, and it's theorized Funtime Foxy and Mangle are the same. (I think it's canon? I mean, we see it in a book but those aren't canon-)

[@Margyleediaz112]

I mean u do get multiple endings in the game to get a “good ending” when really the story is just getting started and it’s getting more good and more good mystery’s to solve.

[@dousc7579]

Honestly, the minor physical differences don't mean much when looking at the other similar minigames. In HW1 Bonnie, Chica, and Freddy are all given random red buttons and unique endos for their specific minigames that just aren't there usually. Security Breach's repair minigames also add a bunch of stuff to Freddy that's also not there normally, especially the voice box change which should be visible when we see inside his hatch normally. Steel Wool just adds necessary pieces for the minigames to work, and the cake in HW2 just needed something to actually hold it. Same reason he's got the keyholes on his arm casings, its just like the buttons in HW1s repair. The frozen endo in the box is a reuse of a puzzle asset where you'd need to warm up the room to melt it enough so you can grab the Fazcam. Doesn't necessarily go against the theory but it is important context. The rest of the theory was pretty cool though! The analysis of his crashing was interesting and i think you're onto something with him trying to access code he doesn't have (Due to being the wrong model) but i think there's another answer. The rest of the screen shows him scan someone in the crowd, and he seemingly receives a warning that it's someone highly dangerous. To the right it appears as though he receives a message and runs a test 4 times, while the bottom left shows his falling integrity levels. I believe this might be the Prototype Freddy responding to Gregory's virus which was triggered when he spotted him. His "true" system is issuing a warning since he knows Gregory is dangerous hacker, but like you said, he's simultaneously trying to run code the prototype doesn't have, likely the GGY hack that allows Gregory to control him. I'm not entirely sure what integrity levels mean, but i think it has something to do with the level of permissions pieces of software need to run on a computer. In this case, Freddy's falling levels makes him susceptible to viruses or untrusted commands, which makes sense considering Gregory previously undermined his whole security. So basically what's happening here is that Freddy was swapped out for the Prototype version, It was placed on stage, It scanned Gregory in the crowd which triggered it to issue a threat warning while attempting to run the commands Gregory hacked in at the same time, it can't find the code, it's security is falling, and it all just becomes too much conflict so his entire system crashes. Then When he boots up later on its in safe mode, this is what prevents him from crashing again as well as connecting to the nighttime security protocols. The incongruity of GGY Gregory/Freddy and SB Gregory and Freddy is confusing (Especially considering the therapy tapes do show the "Correct" version of Gregory who i doubt steel wool even knew was him) but if it is intentional then this crash might be the cause of their amnesia.

[@LemonTheLogan]

Hw2 freddy also has a visible endo neck unlike sb freddy

[@Bonnie_Da_Bunny]

Ah yes they somehow replaced freddy gave him the same damage left him in the same spot, we all should know fazbears entertainment is too lazy for that.when will fans learn.

[@Brandon-jf9cv]

In parts and service, Vanessa says his casing could be put on any old Endo so why would they use a prototype if they have like 50 back up endos

[@AngelDelight69]

Why with bonnie was it different? Why didn't they have backup cases. They just destroyed bonnie as a character.

[@AngelDelight69]

There's gotta be a different reason why they do t want a single association with bonnie. Perhaps something tragic happened

[@Dork692]

nice theory bro

[@Luckydude20221]

in help wanted 2, everything is just a simulation, not real.

[@Joe-yx1gq]

I do like this theory it does give way more reason why are main Glamrock freddy is the Prototype Freddy but also Explains what happen to the Standard Glamrock Freddy with the hints in Help wanted 2

[@xdotolotl5366]

This is a great explanation except for saying that the prototype isn’t meant to use the cake hatch because in security breach there is a message I believe it’s the one on the fountain in the entry that mentions that Freddy was supposed to bring a girl her cake and sing happy birthday before he broke down

[@TheLoganIsBetter]

So I get the part that there are two Freddy’s but the one Security breach is the prototype or the new replacement model?

[@TheLoganIsBetter]

I just want it be more clear 😅

[@TheLogicist]

Yeah, no problem! I'm saying that Security Breach Freddy is a prototype, and is replacing the Help Wanted 2 Freddy.

[@LetsPlayKeldeo]

Prototype isnt nessessarly "first" of something there are revisions that are labled prototype aswell. Like the DS Lite had prototypes even tho the original DS was already out.

[@megawwr8922]

The porototipes logo was t on the trailer. So I think that it was the same boddy as the normal glamrock freddy but then the DEV s change that or they forgot to put. I think the fnaf lore needs to be solved in DEV s perspective.

[@BennybeanA2B3]

So I'm guessing if we was to make a animatronic smaller to the one in security breach it would be a ceremony between a refrigerator and a CPU. huh😢 it so beautiful the ceremony🎑😁. Good examples that everyone should know we'll at least the one who is interested in that type of stuff.

[@bluepenguinx12523]

the frozen endo was meant to be how you get the camera in older versions before release : )

[@cloud1871]

Actually there is scrapped files about a cold storage section in base game (security breach)

[@Bun-621]

Also with the animatronic casing, Freddy in HW has no casing on his neck, unlike SB Freddy. If what we know is true, the different Freddy models have slightly different personalities, as well. The Freddy in HW is sassy and lowkey kinda rude, but the Freddy in SB is kind and gentle. Aint no way the two of them are the same character. I could understand Sun being sassy and short tempered, as he has to deal with little kids contantly (little kids are VERY annoying) but I don't see any case where Freddy would be rude. Vannessa straight up threatened him, and he seemed kinda fearful of her when in parts and services. He never talked back to her, and he really doesn't seem capable of talking back to anyone. (especially not rudely!)

[@Bananafone10]

Bro is the next MatPat

[@Cosmic_life926]

Back when you fully upgrade Freddy and go to leave and you do the vanny ending when glamrock Freddy gets destroyed you can either do princess quest or the other ending in the other ending glamorous Freddy's Jaw is destroyed but when you do princess quest Vanessa and Gregory bring a fixed Freddy's head out of the pizzeria even though it was broken and the other quest which is the exact same time but princess quest will take a minute to finish in game time Gregory is using the prototype Freddy's head and the one in the base game is actually not a prototype because when he malfunction he's probably detecting Gregory but somehow Gregory got into Freddy's chest which means Freddy was experiencing errors cuz he detected an unauthorized personnel in the pizza plex

[@henrysliss]

i just dont understand why they would make it a prototype it was so pointless to do so it would make so much sense to just be our freddy like cmon man

[@higueraft571]

...unless our Freddy WAS a Prototype. This *is* FazEnt.

[@noahespineiravigil9928]

I think there's another glam rock Freddy in FNAF 6/pizzería simulator

[@Ozeglion]

Help Wanted 1 used different models for the FNaF 1 gang for different minigames: in the Parts & Service minigames, they have many details and mechanics within them, most of which are relevant to the minigames themselves, but some not. Due to this, it is absolutely excusable that Freddy has inconsistent design elements across multiple games if other characters have different elements within the same game As proven by unused dialogue and models, the original the player would’ve been able to obtain the Faz-Cam was through a frozen endo that was holding it. They actually made the model for this frozen endo before deciding to instead have the camera be in Monty Golf, so the endo that the parts in the office belong to originally had a completely different purpose, one that is less consistent with this theory Freddy saying that he’s not himself likely has greater lore implications than him just being a prototype, instead possibly implying that he is possessed, though this remains unconfirmed Anyways, I really just don’t see this theory being true

[@CursioNeptune]

I think you're on to something here, especially after having seen the interview John from the channel FuhNaff did with Steel Wool.