I Learned Piano On Meta Quest 3: PianoVision Review

PianoVision is one of the best mixed-reality experiences I’ve tried so far on Meta Quest 3. It helps you to learn the piano by placing a digital overlay on your real piano, showing you what notes to play, providing feedback on your performance, and has lots of features to assist your learning.
This video will cover all of the features of PianoVision on Meta Quest 3, including the main pros and cons. Can PianoVision help you to learn to play the piano? It's time to find out.
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[@alifuatyuvali9912]

Imagine trying to explain to an 18th century composer we will watch someone learn their piece by staring at colorful notes that magically appear in the air

[@VRLowdown]

I know! If you'd explained this to me even a few years ago, I would have thought this tech was decades away.

[@alanbanh]

I’ve always found learning piano hard because it’s difficult to memorise all the notes and timings but I feel like using this would really help a lot because you can see when the notes are coming and play them, which after a while, you’ll master through muscle memory.

[@VRLowdown]

Using apps on my tablet was a big revelation when I started learning piano. It made it much easier and more fun. PianoVision takes things a step even further. For anyone wanting to learn the piano for fun, it's really good.

[@dr.meshaalalmalki3052]

@@VRLowdownbro I just ordered meta quest 3 just to learn piano. I have had a 1.5k piano keyboard for 3 years and unfortunately 😅 it’s full of dust. Now the time has come to finally learn how to play it.

[@dalenharris7549]

​@dr.meshaalalmalki3052 how has the first week been? I'm on the fence 😂

[@dr.meshaalalmalki3052]

@@dalenharris7549 I haven’t tried it yet, it’s an exam period. In 2 weeks i’ll be sharing my initial experience here if u r interested.

[@dr.meshaalalmalki3052]

@@dalenharris7549 First day impression, it’s still hard to learn it even with VR but I guess it became a little bit easier with PianoVision.

[@alexgoriatchenkov]

10 month since started learning piano playing. All by KZbin and progress is all depend how often and how long playing/learning. Thinking starting sight reading and playing and now your video makes a great idea to help my learning. Will buy this app today (using Quest 3) and update soon my first results. Thank you a lot for great show how this new miracle APP.

[@VRLowdown]

Hope you enjoy it. It has definitely made a huge difference for me. Definitely learning much faster and really enjoying it.

[@alexgoriatchenkov]

@@VRLowdown Unfortunately not working for me.....

[@LezMarwick]

I've been thinking of picking up a Quest 3 primarily for this app. I've had PCVR since 2016 and was regularly upgrading both my PC and my headsets until the Valve Index released. Since then I decided to wait until there was something significantly better before upgrading again. Since covid I decided to get back into music after a 30+ year layoff! I could never play keyboards even then, but I had everything MIDI'd up and could get by. Recently I've invested money in buying multiple synthesisers and am now very tempted to finally learn how to play a little, rather than just program my music on PC or play and record using 2 fingers!! This on a Quest 3 looks like it might be the perfect solution for me with the advantage of the Quest 3 also giving me a PCVR upgrade as well as a wireless alternative for a few games I enjoy such as Walkabout Mini Golf. I would be interested to know what your daughter thinks of this app too, as it sounds like she is quite dedicated to learning how to play.

[@VRLowdown]

I've let my daughter try this out for an hour or two so far and she totally loves it. Amazing how quick she picked up how to use it. We've both been loving learning the piano for the last few years and this app makes it so much more fun.

[@TheModeRed]

You answered all my questions well! Bravo! Subbed!

[@VRLowdown]

Delight to hear you found the video helpful!

[@AlvaroALorite]

I'm a musician. My mother isn't, but she has always manted to learn piano. I've just discovered this app and made her buy it, SHE IS LOVING IT! She gets to have fun while getting results! We all know apps like this won't get you to really learn piano, but this one is an amazing first close experience with music and piano!

[@VRLowdown]

Totally agree. It's loads of fun, and isn't that the most important factor in learning piano. Make it fun and you'll want to practice, learn and get better.

[@tomgreeley]

Great review. Thank you.

[@VRLowdown]

Glad it was helpful!

[@firewulf1]

this looks so fun, always been mesmerised by pianos and i know a few melodies but thats all

[@vetisu_7719]

Are you able to upload other songs from other people or midi files so You can play songs that are not part of the default list of songs in the app?

[@ThiccHarambeGaming]

This is pretty awesome. I play piano, not an expert or anything, been playing since I was 11-12 but I love playing my piano using a program called Synthesia, you plug your piano into your computer and the Synthesia program takes midi files and allows you to play the songs note for note and this is what it reminds me of. Really awesome.

[@VRLowdown]

I'm checking out Synthesia now. Looks pretty good.

[@apfrogerio]

I loved this video! I bought a piano five or six years ago, and tried to learn, but as I am an old guy, I quickly realized that serious study of piano requires much more effort than I want to make. Even though, I still like to sit at the piano from time to time and give it a try. Sometimes I am more willing to study and other times I am lazy. And I was convinced that this was the relation I would have with the piano for the rest of my life. And just the other day I started to get interested in buying a MetaQuest 3 when I watched some youtube videos about it, and this piano learning application was something that I saw but didn't consider to be so interesting untill now that I saw your video. Now I start to think more seriously about buying VR goggles! Can you make a video showing how you connect the cable from the digital piano to the headset?

[@VRLowdown]

Glad you enjoyed the video. Connecting you headset to the piano couldn't be easier. Your piano will have a USB-B connector and/or a MIDI connector. You just need a cable with the appropriate connector on one end and a USB-C connector on the other. Once you connect the cable, it should work automatically to detect your notes.

[@mrmeireles.rigger]

@@VRLowdown I'll star looking for an entry piano in order to learn using this app. My question is: is MIDI widely available in every model or how should I check if a model has what it needs for this connection? Also, is the number of octaves relevant?

[@markwilliams1516]

Might buy this just for the pianovision , it's really great

[@VRLowdown]

It really is fantastic.

[@AllAboutUFC]

Hi, I have yamaha Clavinova piano and only thing I can plug in is headphone jack, will this still work with quest 3?

[@jade6801]

I have a question. Is there a mode in this app where I can express the scales I play freely as well as piano lessons?

[@amorgan5844]

6 months later, do you find it still useful and are you able to remember any songs or chords without the headset?

[@EvgenMakein]

What type of piano it's need? I saw many with different number of keys

[@mikesmith1290]

Is there a way to reduce the latency? I have the keyboard plugged directly into the quest 3, but the latency makes it almost unplayable

[@thatfeelgoodfeeling]

I have the RockJam Keyboard..can I just follow along using this keyboard vs buying a MIDI? PianoVision says "Connect a MIDI keyboard or play on a flat surface with the Virtual Piano!", so why not use regular keyboard instead of flat surface..even if it doesn't plug into the headset? I've never played piano and I got it for a steal on Amazon for under $60 (USD). For those using a MIDI, any suggestions? As a newbie, I really don't want to spend a lot of money on one, especially since I'm not sure if it's something I'll continue with. Thank you for your help! AND of course, for the helpful video! I've been wanting to learn piano for a couple decades, thought this would be a fun way learn.

[@soniik2239]

This is amazing

[@VRLowdown]

It really is. So much fun and a great way to learn.

[@noybiznatch]

I have a Williams Allegro 2, which does not have MIDI, but has USB. Did a little bit of research, seems like i may be able to make it MIDI using a MIDI host device. Wondering if there's any further instruction on of this would work or not.

[@VRLowdown]

I'm not 100% sure, but I see the the Allegro 2 has a USB-B port and I think you can connect this to your headset using a USB-B to USB-C cable. From what I have read about your model, this should allow MIDI to work without any additional hardware.

[@Thegooob95]

Can it record piano input? If I’m writing a song will it record the notes I played to help me remember and form the song?

[@VRLowdown]

I don't think so. I've only used it to play songs rather than record.

[@jameshiggins.openworld]

looks good just ordered a quest 3

[@VRLowdown]

Enjoy!

[@johndoe-yw7eb]

Aside from the songs, are there any sort of training modules for stone-cold beginners that would teach them hand placement and other rudimentary basics?

[@VRLowdown]

Not really. This is one area where it is lacking, as it just focuses on songs, although they are grouped by difficulty.

[@eparizzi]

I'm a huge fan of Synthesia so this alone makes me want to buy the Quest 3. Question: Can you add more songs (via MIDI files) to PianoVision or you're limited to the collection they have?

[@VRLowdown]

Yes, you can add more songs by connecting your headset and piano to a computer. The PianoVision Discord is a great place to start if you want to do this.

[@ellensamir374]

You are right, I’ve tried it with virtual keyboard but the hand tracking is a bit lousy.

[@VRLowdown]

Definitely agree.

[@TheGAMESHARQ]

What type of cable do I need to connect my headset to my real MIDI piano to use this app on a Quest 3? Also, will the audio play through my real piano or through the headset speakers?

[@VRLowdown]

You need a Midi to USB-C cable. Your piano may have a traditional MIDI port, a USB-B port or both, so you'll need to check your piano to make sure to get the right one. You can hear the sound of the piano through the headset and also from the piano depending on your preference.

[@hankk8526]

I have a 52-key electronic piano. There is no provision for this in the setup menu. Is there something I'm missing?

[@VRLowdown]

Although there may not be the option for 52 key in the setup, you can still choose an alternate number of keys and then manually map the keys using the adjustment controls. It should still work perfectly well.

[@GirGirGirGir160]

thank you i was wondering about the midi piano

[@VRLowdown]

Hope you got it sorted.

[@MrKlawUK]

do you know if you can connect a MIDI bluetooth adapter to the headset? I have one of those for use with the laptop so would save me buying another cable

[@VRLowdown]

I think this would probably work, but I haven't tried it.

[@hrmehrfar]

It's so cool

[@VRLowdown]

It really did blow my mind.

[@kayleighfantoni1883]

I have a Yamaha Arius electric piano. I’m not sure I can connect by USB. Can Meta use my piano to hear the sound?

[@VRLowdown]

It can use finger tracking to register the notes, but the accuracy isn't good enough to make it actually enjoyable to use. I had a look online to see what your options are, and I think you may need a USB to MIDI host device to make your piano work with midi and connect to the Quest 3. It looks like the CAMOLA USB MIDI Host Box might be an option, but it's pretty expensive.

[@Hammorrison]

If I’m just interested in the piano app do I just need the 128 gig option for the quest 3?

[@VRLowdown]

There's a 128GB and 512GB version, so the 128GB version is plenty if you're mainly planning on using PianoVision.

[@jonathankim1999]

Self taught pianist here of 8 years, and this is amazing. I'm actually kind of jealous because I can clearly see people learning so fast with this app when I had to struggle through the traditional method haha. Quick question: one concern I have when looking at this is I'm wondering how easy it would be for people to play the songs they learn through this app without the headset on. Do you find you're able to remember what you played even without referencing the original midi track? I ask because I'm worried having the piano tell you exactly what notes to play when might cause you to only be able to play when you have that visual aid (I know a few people who can only really play piano songs if they have the sheet music in front of them because that's how they trained). great video btw, thank you for sharing. I have an old Oculus Rift, but I might have to upgrade to the Quest 3 now just to check this out (even though I already know how to play the piano, this seems like a super cool way to learn more songs).

[@Joke44444]

There are options to display the sheet music as well to follow along. And there is a memory mode that causes the midi notes to slow disappear. Also there are multiple scales and exercises to warm on.

[@VRLowdown]

Relying too much on the MIDI track/MR indicators does definitely impair your ability to memorize the songs. They do have a memory mode though, where the note indicators disappear over time as you learn the song, and this really helps me to actually memorize them, rahter than just relying on what I am seeing.

[@UuU1001.]

But isn’t it better to learn the traditional way (music theory, reading notes)? I heard learning by memorizing where to press without technique and theory (synthesia type “learning”) is not such a good route. But I’m not the expert and am a current self learner.

[@jonathankim1999]

Yeah idk. It’s up to your style. I definitely disagree with the idea that there is only one way to get good at the piano. I know a few people who can play highly technical songs through Synthesia alone. TLDR yeah it’s good to learn how to read sheet music, but don’t let it stop you from playing

[@janirobe]

@@jonathankim1999 if you want to play at a random piano, you need the headset. If you are able to actually sight read... you just need your phone to bring up some sheets... A bit naive to think this will lead to anything substantial

[@FERNANDOPENAS]

Strangely I can not find this app in quest 3. I ve searched in all ways and it never return the result. Can anyone help?

[@VRLowdown]

That's odd. You could try Googling for PianoVision and go to the Quest store page in this way. Alternatively, have you tried searching for it on the phone app?

[@ninpauline]

iv got an old technics keyboard with midi out to a usb 2.0 adaptor, can i use a usb 2.0 with the quest using a usb c adaptor ?

[@VRLowdown]

Yes, this should work totally fine.

[@ninpauline]

thank you@@VRLowdown

[@Tube2097]

How long can you practise for, though, considering the cable for charging is taken up by using the Midi connection? The Quest 3 has a dire battery life!

[@VRLowdown]

Good point. If you're using the USB-C cable for MIDI connection you only get about 2 hours battery life.

[@Tube2097]

@@VRLowdown I just corrected my misspelling. Haha. A fire battery life. Let's hope not. Haha.

[@Louise-xr5ok]

Ive just got piano vision i am having trouble aligning the keys even with the extra controls.Also disappointed to see the songs are not in full they are just short passages from the pieces

[@VanillaVanilly]

This also works on the quest 2 but in black and white which feels a little bit different

[@VRLowdown]

You're right. I haven't tried it yet on Quest 2. Is it still good with the grayscale pass through?

[@starcountry02]

@@VRLowdownIts just a bit annoying but it works

[@leonardogodoy8687]

@@VRLowdown Lot of warping, horrible image quality, and really hard to check the piano keys without standing up. It works? yeah, kinda, but all of this plus the neck pain you get after looking down with the quest 2 for a couple of minutes makes it not worthy

[@myrobotmower]

​@@leonardogodoy8687Doesn't sound great. It's not perfect on Quest 3, but it really has blown me away.

[@jeffn1215]

​@leonardogodoy8687 Honestly, if you have terrible lighting in your place, Quest 3 passthrough is just as unbearable.

[@tommyreusse3858]

literally what some of us always imagine for the future

[@VRLowdown]

Agreed! I couldn't have imagined this application existing a few years ago.

[@AldiBilahdin]

It's free or must buy bro?

[@tardis4125]

As someone who can already somewhat play piano. I downloaded songs I already knew how to play. And I just can't keep up with the song on the app. I find it harder to see where my fingers are, and I loose track of the timing which makes me miss a note and the notes will stop moving till I go back and hit the right note

[@VRLowdown]

You can change a setting in the app so it doesn't pause when you play a wrong note. The finger tracking isn't perfect due to the limitations of the front-facing cameras, so a MIDI piano is pretty much essential. Are you using an acoustic piano?

[@tardis4125]

@VRLowdown I have a Yamaha keyboard, that I plug my headset into. I tried songs that I can play without the headset, and it was harder for me to play. I think it's because I'm focusing on the colored notes, trying to hit them at the right time, instead of looking at my fingers

[@nathanielwilliams1318]

Ima get this and a piano

[@VRLowdown]

Enjoy!

[@xxleofsxx9307]

its like playing guitar hero but in a real piano, its super cool!

[@VRLowdown]

That's exactly what it feels like.

[@gothicvillasgaming]

Can i use my 32 key midi kb?

[@VRLowdown]

Yes, there is an option to use 32 key keyboards, so this should work without any issues.

[@gothicvillasgaming]

@VRLowdown i bought it yesterday and it works indeed :) actually, i have midi with 25 keys but there is this option too 👌

[@alejandrorishmawi7605]

can i use a regular piano?

[@VRLowdown]

Yes, but it doesn't work nearly as well, as you need to rely on the hand tracking alone, rather than the MIDI input.

[@fieryphoenix586]

I was planning on getting a Quest 3 if I didn't get one for Christmas. I learned piano as a kid and at the age of 32, I keep trying to get back into it. This app is really tempting me to want to get one now.

[@VRLowdown]

It really is fantastic. Its made learning piano so much fun for me.

[@matthewbrookes4277]

Hey I’m picking up the quest 3 for Christmas and I have a Yamaha p125 how would I connect it to the headset to make the app worth it like you suggested thank you. Great content btw

[@VRLowdown]

Your Yamaha p125 has a USB-B port on the back that you can use to connect to your headset. I use a USB-C to USB-C cable (DigitalLife 1.8m USB-C to B MIDI Interface Cable for MIDI is the one I use). It's as simple as connecting the keyboard to the headset and you should be ready to go.

[@franciscoguardado773]

Piano - Hero 🎶

[@VRLowdown]

Thanks for watching.

[@pianomusic_64]

Is it possible to get an update for a lefthanded-piano? Because I want to play the melody with my lefthand as lefty. For lefthanded-people it makes much more fun and it is easier to play! Geza Loso has an inverted Instrument.

[@VRLowdown]

You should contact the developers to see if this can be implemented.

[@Louise-xr5ok]

How do you get the piano ? Does it come with it or do you need to purchase it separately?

[@VRLowdown]

Sadly, you need to get the piano separately.

[@renatododge99]

What piano do you have

[@VRLowdown]

I have a Kawai KDP120 Digital Piano. It's awesome and is a great mid-range option.

[@renatododge99]

@@VRLowdown do you need anything else. You said something about a midi cable, does that come with the Piano?

[@eelofthemist]

Can you upload your own songs into the app?

[@VRLowdown]

Yes, but you need to connect your headset and MIDI keyboard to your computer to do it. Join the PianoVision Discord and you'll find loads of info and music to use.

[@adsolutions-plusmarketinga8918]

Hey what kawai piano is it? Br

[@VRLowdown]

It's the KDP120. I'd highly recommend it. We started with it as beginners and I think it will be good enough until at a very high standard.

[@adsolutions-plusmarketinga8918]

@@VRLowdown Thank you very much, I bought the CN 201 from Kawai yesterday. very nice to play

[@nerdzsk9837]

I've tried this application but it's not really suitable for integration with a real piano. The application captures the side keys quite inaccurately. For a short keyboard it would perhaps be better. You also have to have the keyboard exactly horizontal in 180 degrees. Just a small deviation can cause the keys to not sit exactly.

[@VRLowdown]

I totally agree. Finger tracking just isn't good enough to use it seriously on an acoustic piano. MIDI input is pretty much essential if you want to use this as a tool to learn piano.

[@Louise-xr5ok]

So the sheet music comes up as well ?

[@VRLowdown]

Yes, there's an option to display the sheet music. It works really well.

[@robertrose3068]

I played clarinet in school for 8 years and was really good at it (all-regional band grades 8-12) so I know how to read treble clef music easily. I've always wanted to learn piano, but it was hard and even harder for the bass clef. I had a keyboard and even used a permament to write notes on keys. But it didn't help so I gave up. I came across a Facebook ad (different program) and found this in a search. I'm definitely getting this. It seems like a much easier way to learn it. 👍

[@VRLowdown]

You'll get up to speed in no time with your musical experience. It is so easy to learn, and because it is so much fun to use, you never lose motivation to play.

[@kgaia]

Have you found that it's helped you out without the goggles on?

[@VRLowdown]

Yes, definitely. The mode where the note blocks disappear and you're forced to remember the notes makes a huge difference. Without this mode, it suffers the same issue as when using the piano learning app, Simply Piano, where you learn to follow the notes and play along, but struggle to actuially learn or memorize them.

[@Maulex-nq6eu]

fyi if you are wondering this is 10 dollar game it is NOT free

[@VRLowdown]

Thanks for clarifying this. Def good value at this price.

[@christalbott450]

Hi. Breathe air. To life. God made everything. His son jesus pardoned all of all wrong doing.

[@SigmaElement]

Bible Jesus is a fictional character

[@sunnymon1436]

Some really obvious features seem to be missing.

[@VRLowdown]

There's definitely a lot of room to make it better, and I'm sure improvements will come in time.