I like that Arthur and Micah who are complete enemies at this point are making fun of Bill

[@blax140]

poor Marion she didn't deserve to be bullied by Arthur

[@sourcelad1783]

I mean she was not bullied it’s just banter 😂

[@jytvreal]

micah however

[@Zygothknightlord]

She? Lol.

[@Mamulel]

She's a sensitive lady, after all.😂

[@vermilion6667]

Kinda explain why he was a gay 💀 💀

[@acuyra]

It’s honestly kind of hard to feel sorry for Bill, here. He should’ve known better than to tell Micah that.

[@AK-lx1cr]

I used to feel bad for Bill, then I saw him mocking Arthur for getting r@ped...

[@oldironfarm]

Weird how he still sided with Micah in the end

[@TwistedPhilosophyOfDeath]

@@oldironfarm It was because of Dutch.

[@shooby9496]

Right? He said that and I was like "Oh, Bill, no, what are you doing?"

[@amortality999]

Actually Bill and Javier left right after the pinkertons ambushed them

[@calangoraivoso9921]

If remember correctly this conversation can happen in chapter 3 or 4 because it's oddly out of place for it to be in chapter 6 tbh

[@Raphie009]

It can happen in Chapter 2 as well.

[@IRAZELAST]

My brother got the Arthur’s coughing scene happen to him in Saint Denis while he just started Chapter 6. A bit weird.

[@lfcmuh3528]

@@IRAZELAST it’s normal . He gets it while he is going to meet Sadie to help John break out of prison

[@hippityhoppity5823]

The short is just capping, they were enemies from the very start, did you forget Micah was the one that cussed the thing at black water? Arthur wanted to hang him but dutch insisted

[@ryanhernandez8324]

@@hippityhoppity5823 The short is capping? What does that mean?

[@fighter500mx3]

Micah: Don’t worry your secret is safe with me. 12 years later…… John Marston: Marion Williamson! Come out here!

[@shadowagent6051]

Damn,I thought about that 😂

[@themadtitan7603]

Bill in the fort: Shit, who goddamn told him. Must've been Bell, that piece of shi*t.

[@blax140]

He would of shot john instantly for that lol

[@banijska_krajina]

Actually in Chapter 2 you can find Marion Bill's discharge from the army where it says Marion Williamson in the camp

[@ollikoskiniemi6221]

12 years later*

[@themadtitan7603]

This interaction fits more when it triggers in Chapters 2-5, as that's when Arthur and Micah were rivals than bitter enemies who still had friendly or civil moments with each other like here when they make fun of Bill.

[@KraTu7]

Chapter 5 not fit either.

[@brandondanforth8342]

this mf really be on all the red dead videos lmao thats cool though, you've usually got good takes and can spark interesting discussions.

[@youbaouahdi4358]

I had this happen at the weirdest time ever, the night before the big train roberry. Javier pulled out his guitar and played it and this interaction happened, it felt weird but it also felt good, a break from all the tension, the calm before the storm, the last night they'll spend together.

[@themadtitan7603]

@@brandondanforth8342 Thank you.

[@themadtitan7603]

@@youbaouahdi4358 Yeah, it seems you got an oddly reassuring moment in Chapter 6 before it all comes crashing down.

[@JM-hj3sm]

John Marston standing outside Fort Mercer, 1911: "Marion! Marion, I've come for you!" Random Williamson Gang member: "Your woman ain't here, partner. Best move along now!"

[@themadtitan7603]

I could genuinely see that being a funny moment in the first game.

[@Angrymonkey2489]

John: "I implore you!"

[@foxydoesgaming6385]

@@Angrymonkey2489 JoHN?…INsIsT?!

[@mategetsnosleep3612]

John?... InSIst?!?!?!!?😮😮😮😮

[@AdrianRaki]

@@foxydoesgaming6385 Yeah....! Insist.

[@MineVex]

"Marion, Javier.... think! Think for yourselves!"

[@Leon_S._Kennedy]

Bill..

[@kevinbirmingham8629]

LOL. "They must have hated you before they ever met you....explains a lot". That's too funny.

[@thestonedwitch]

I actually like Micah in the beginning of the game like the guy on your team you’re always competing against. Can’t help share a laugh now and again before going back at each other’s throats

[@yesshh2952]

Tbh tho Micah is also the one guy on every team that is, to be fair an asshole but their outlook things is legitimately a necessary thing

[@thestonedwitch]

@@yesshh2952 very Shane from Walking Dead vibes honestly

[@ΑναστάσιοςΠαπαζαχαρίου]

I can't shake off the feeling that maybe if gang members didn't antagonise micah every chance they got things may have turned out differently

[@user_hellothere]

That's what he wants you to think. He's been conniving the gang the whole time, trying to get them all caught to collect all their bounties

[@friccle_]

Micah as a rival that just kinda contrasts with Arthur was a bit better than him being the flat out villain Arthur is careful and has a code, Micah just does whatever. It shows off the two sides of the honor bar

[@Krystalmyth]

I prefer playing in third person. Arthur talks with his hands a lot and uses body language constantly. Head tilts, nods and the like. His facial expressions too. You're missing half the scene in first person. c:

[@mrcvgamerman]

It's to show the cutscene better

[@bobthebuilder1360]

I only use it when fighting and shooting but i also use 3rd person about the same amount too

[@hangthed]

it’s not that deep, you can see better in first person, not everyone cares about arthurs expressions

[@voiceunderthecovers]

@@hangthedlikewise, not everyone wants to see the cutscene in first person. So chill out.

[@vengeance1450]

@@voiceunderthecovers And not everyone wants them in third person, pretty ironic you're telling him it's "not that deep" while at the same time getting deep about the perspective.

[@kevinbirmingham8629]

Arthur: "I'd apologize but...I don't feel like it...." LOL

[@attackera7167]

İ swear arthur is one of the funniest main characters in video games XD and the best part is he aint even trying hard to be funny he is just naturally gifted

[@tommyvercetti9434]

Unpopular opinion, but I think Arthur really dropped the ball with his treatment of Bill. Had he supported him during the game, I'm pretty sure Bill will had joined Arthur in the end. Dude is desperate for approval from his peers and he only gets mocked left and right.

[@auroraflos2498]

Not unpopular at all, even high honour Arthur makes fun of Bill every time he greets him. He definitely could’ve done better.

[@one-wingedangel5107]

Must've been why Marion took after Micah instead of Arthur. Formed a gang, became leader of criminals who rape, murder and pillage, and got hunted down by Scarface.

[@icelandiccubicle3418]

@@auroraflos2498 Arthur's a bully, a mass murderer, a thug etc

[@EternalVirgin]

They're gangsters, being all roughhousing is par for the course, why are surprised like every main character of an RPG is supposed to be some prim and proper gentleman?

[@SmeagolTheGreat]

Thought the same on my playthrough. But hey, Arthur is not perfect, though we grow to like him, he was a very flawed man.

[@simple-commentator-not-rea7345]

I would have loved to see any moments where Bill actually gets along with anyone. He's the camp clown, everyone loves to laugh at him

[@Бебро2]

Kieran: 🙂

[@YorkusPorkus757]

He gets moments like that. John and him get drunk and have a good time together

[@Zman.gamer.6989]

I feel bad for Bill. I think if Arthur at least tried to be the only one who didn't bully Bill and tried to be his friend, he might have joined Arthur's side against Dutch. Instead, he is treated like the "prize idiot" by Arthur and John, and the only one who respected him was Dutch, so he joined dutches side with Micah

[@anarchistjesus7354]

Hosea, and Uncle are pretty nice to Bill, but they're not around at all in chaper 6, as far as I know.

[@Zman.gamer.6989]

@@anarchistjesus7354 yeah Hosea is killed in the bank robbery while I'm pretty sure uncle abandons the gang

[@MC-wb7cp]

​@@anarchistjesus7354 Hosea wasn't all that nice to bill, he would get shitty at him for being a drunk layabout at camp and even pull out his gun on him.

[@Oppenheimer33]

No Arthur isn't a nice person he was outlaw

[@panspermiapancakes]

Bill actually doesn't side with Dutch and Micah in any traditional sense. During the confrontational scene among the gang members, Bill is the only person in the gang holding his guns sideways into the air instead of pointing them at either side. It suggests he remains mostly neutral and conflicted. People assume he picked Dutch's side because Bill ends up killed in the long run by John, but once the Pinkertons over-run the camp, Bill and Javier head south. Bill keeps contact with Javier but starts his own gang and moves into Fort Mercer. Not only does Bill not actually pick sides, but there was never a chance for him to decide because that is the last time he ever saw Dutch or Micah or even Arthur. Once the Pinkertons came in, the gang broke up almost entirely.

[@ilikepigeons6101]

The ending lmao. I thought the horse sound was Micah's laugh 😆

[@MamaGlock]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@Rexident97]

1:39 bro even the horse’s laughed lmfaoo🐴🐴

[@provingfiber8390]

“He’s a very sensitive lady”

[@zachclawges6932]

I hate Micah with all my soul, but when him and Arthur are getting along they are the perfect comedic duo

[@StuartLugsden]

This can happen in second chapter. For the first 5 the 2 are rivals, not enemies and they there are a few moments where they are civil with each other.

[@AmericanF-16]

the ONE TIME he and micah actually were nice to each other.

[@themadtitan7603]

They have a few civil or even sort of friendly moments in Chapters 2 to 5. People forget that they only became enemies in Chapter 6 and before that they were just rivals.

[@Red0543]

Naah there’s a couple. For example there’s an interaction after “Blessed are the peacemakers” where Micah seemed to be genuinely sorry. I don’t remember the exact words, but essentially he was sorry that Arthur got captured and tortured because of something that was essentially his plan. “I thought that, if something were to go down, they would shot me. Not you.”

[@themadtitan7603]

@@Red0543 I don't know for me, while I agree Micah was more friendly to Arthur in the early Chapters. He did seem like he's acting there to me, Dutch's apology felt genuine while Micah seemed like he just didn't want to get on the bad side of the camp enforcer.

[@Chadorni]

I know i'm a bit late but it's not like Micah knew the O'Driscolls would kidnap Arthur. He probably genuinely chose Arthur due to his ability with firearms and actually was as surprised as Dutch when he didn't return to the camp.

[@VMadnezzYT]

Even the horse at the end thought that was funny

[@dylak4560]

Am I the only one who thinks that Bill had every right to turn into a villain in RDR1? He was always bullied by everyone, even by the best members of the gang. He was actually a pretty chill guy, I liked him a lot.

[@JimmyScalan]

ikr

[@mamamia7942]

fr like “morning arthur” 😢

[@soy4600]

He’s chill usually but he sometimes was kinda crazy

[@2HandHangerDunksOnly]

He’s a criminal lol, none of them with the exception of John and probably Arthur are chill. Dude was discharged from the military for deviancy, not a good dude. Not to mention his role in Rdr1.

[@aladinsane9785]

Don’t feel too bad, Bill. John Wayne’s real name was Marion too.

[@Th3Espr3ss0]

That's why his name is Marion.

[@poultry-lover6665]

Idk why but I feel kinda bad for Bill. He went through a lot and everyone treats him like trash and call him dumb. I mean even Dutch talks shit to him when he was talking about the Indians scalping people. And he obviously has ptsd.

[@alladeenmdfkr2255]

There are few moments where Arthur is nice to Bill and Bill to Arthur. Bill even defended Arthur from Micah before the van horn mission where Bill and Arthur steal the dynamite

[@brandondanforth8342]

Never would have thought that I would enjoy his character so much in a prequel when playing RDR1, like Bill (and tbf all of the surviving gang members) weren't NEARLY as fleshed out as they are in RDR2, which isnt a bad thing necessarily, it worked very well and made RDR2's portrayal of the characters that muc hbetter, knowing how everyone's stories end.

[@funny3scene]

Bill is dumb though

[@eniggaracer]

I think the Indian wars he participated in made unscrewed some parts of his noggin

[@marcusaurelius4941]

that was such a cringey moment with all of the "I understand we're all robbers and killers here but DON'T YOU DARE be a bit racist against people you fought against in what was practically a war!?"

[@ThexDynastxQueen]

Thats no way to talk to a lady, Micah! 😤

[@szyszkarzadzi]

Ah, I didnt know I was talking to the lady

[@CharlesM2]

At least Micah and Arthur can agree on *something*

[@marypalmer00]

Even the horse is laughing at the end 😭 Poor Bill. I remember being bullied for my surname in middle school and it was literally the worst.

[@bekowiec2623]

realy? what is your surname then? 😁

[@Sergazz]

@@bekowiec2623 marionson

[@Literallyryangosling777]

​@@Sergazz nah💀

[@iamerror1699]

@@bekowiec2623 Mine was Obama, also got bullied for that.

[@smileyfawler8454]

Micah looks so slick the way he lights his cigarette.

[@calebstearns5571]

didn't know about this dialogue oh man this was freaking gold, I can only imagine ones I haven't heard yet.

[@finckel2682]

His name is a reference to John Wayne's real name, which is Marion Michael Morrison. And yes, he was very bullied for that.

[@davisbowe8668]

My dad and grandpa were both named Marion, and my dad went by his middle name because people made fun of him for having the name 'Marion'. Thankfully he made the decision to not name me that lol.

[@finckel2682]

@@davisbowe8668 Davis Bowe. Interesting name. Sounds like David Bowie.

[@AK-lx1cr]

@@finckel2682 Who's real name is David Jones. 😂

[@finckel2682]

@@AK-lx1cr Yeah, I know. But he opted for Bowie because there was already a David "Davy" Jones in The Monkees. And, there's also the legendary pirate Davy Jones.

[@AK-lx1cr]

@@finckel2682 That's right! Good knowledge there. 🤙

[@GibGibson]

Makes me wanna look for other friendly interactions between micah and arthur

[@tantemarianne7190]

I like how even Micah seems annoyed with Arthur riding the Joke for too long. Like Arthur is the uncool wanabe-friend of the bully at school.

[@DieHardRedemption]

Black Lung and The Rat is making fun of Marion

[@theundeadwarden3906]

Bill didn't deserve all that hate man, he was just trying to impress Dutch and everyone by showing he wasn't dumb and useless

[@nutball3756]

I wish there were more convos like this where you could get on Micah's better side.

[@michaelbucher9397]

Where Micah could get on YOUR*** better side

[@snnnaaaaaakeeeee4470]

Micah has a better side???

[@josefstalin8815]

@@michaelbucher9397 i think he means micah funny side or something like that

[@Saurophaganax1931]

@@josefstalin8815 Micah’s two sides are playfully cruel and just plain cruel.

[@salembendeck]

Better than William Williamson.

[@reginaldcopperbottom468]

Will Billiamson

[@noahanders7605]

Bobbert Robinson

[@alladeenmdfkr2255]

Yeah,sound so stupid when the surname is a continuation of your name

[@ollikoskiniemi6221]

@@alladeenmdfkr2255 how does Will Liamson sound like?

[@alladeenmdfkr2255]

@@ollikoskiniemi6221 even worse,you want to pronounce it in one go when you read it

[@trismtheprism7186]

I lowkey feel bad for Bill

[@CopperWrappedRocks]

The only time Micah and Arthur get along is when they’re tag teaming clowning on someone else

[@mikeycisar2665]

0:58 Marion: Actually 🤓👆

[@Kira-pv4xq]

It’s most likely because this dialogue isn’t actually for any specific chapter, hence why Arthur and Micah act chill.

[@Vladian100]

It is the point, when Bill decided to make his own gang 😄

[@theorderofthepurplephoenix3321]

Micah just goes around antagonizing everyone

[@lokma1saniyeonce2ylonce98]

woooooooooooow

[@ruadhan5905]

"he's a very sensitive lady." i think i'm gonna be using this lol

[@ShoSho-cq7ct]

I feel like I missed out on fun camp interactions like this! Gotta replay as Arthur and spend more time with my gang family..

[@0ld_Scratch]

"Oh I didin't know I was talking to a Lady!"

[@pajamajohnson6051]

William Williamson would’ve been a funny name. Fun fact: any name with “son” means exactly what you think it means. So Bill’s name could’ve been William William’s Son.

[@jinxthatsme2317]

For 8 years that was his established name. RDR2 retconned it to be Marion Williamson. But if you go back to RDR1 and read one of the later issues of the newspapers, they say "William 'Bill' Williamson."

[@foxydoesgaming6385]

@@jinxthatsme2317 since Micah and Arthur were the only people that knew and they died Bill probably convinced everyone that is real name is “William” not “Marion”

[@thanksgivingday5402]

Fun fact back: John Wayne’s real name was Marion Morrison.

[@JThePervertedSummoner]

​@@foxydoesgaming6385 His real name is in the army's records. It is a retcon

[@marcusaurelius4941]

​@@foxydoesgaming6385You can find a document in the camp about why Bill was discharged from the army, and I think it says Marion there

[@Big-Papa-Smurf]

Bill is the Meg of camp.

[@LordSalazarsRevenge]

Shut up, Meg.

[@NikitaGamer64]

1:07 I am surprised Micah had empathy for Bill, even this tiny

[@VergilGaming283]

The rare times arthur and micah and some liking to each other

[@robfus]

For 30 seconds there was a truce.

[@justamuffhugger6733]

I always thought Micah was a calm and reasonable person.

[@XSaintsXTroopsX]

This might be the only time I ever enjoyed Micah’s company

[@Urge-To-Burn]

I kinda feel bad for bill. He trusted Micah and thought that it was a safe place for him to express his issues, just to get shot down and insulted for his real name.

[@lexx5313]

"...What a nasty momma and daddy you must have had"😂😭

[@devious_rcf]

man oh man what could of been between Arthur and Micah. Arthur being a more tamed version of Micah could of made them quite the duo imo

[@equinosdamaconha2278]

In another time-line where Arthur and Micah are friends:

[@PhantomLantern2814]

Nothing brings vicious enemies together like bullying someone else

[@taski1]

they all like to rib eachother, but from what i've seen Arthur ribs the hardest. Not by far, though, Micah's downright vicious

[@thorn6070]

Never understood why a lot of the gang members taunt and harass Bill he seems to always be minding his own business.

[@MarvinT0606]

He's a bad drunk. Ever seen what Bill does and says to Lenny when he's drunk?

[@rain8767]

Remember that time where Javier almost slit Bill's throat because bill decided to be an asshole while Javier is just minding his business?

[@Chadorni]

​​@@MarvinT0606 He only did that once, they also have an encounter where they return from a robbery and Bill praises Lenny for his talent. He isn't a bad person, he's just socially akward. (Well, before rdr 1 that is)

[@bIuecap]

bill is even worse than micah when hes drunk

[@corabelle388]

"hey there mary" lmfao

[@MrsJasmyn45]

"He's a very sensitive lady."🤣🤣

[@jakeslaughter7201]

Marion was my grandfathers name. I kinda liked it when I first heard this.

[@hylianspectre359]

I love that you can find this out much earlier in the story as well. There is a letter of dishonourable discharge from the army sitting on a crate in Chapter II. It addresses Bill in the letter as Marion Williamson, along with the reasons for his dismissal. The details in this game still astound me so many years later.

[@Mango.fr_]

It Doesn’t Matter How Bad The Camp Mood Is That Doesn’t Mean That They Can Still Have Fun

[@mrlowkey4187]

I'm glad these two can put their differences aside to come together and shit on Mary.

[@luigicavallo270]

"Don't worry, your secret is safe with me!" *8 years later* "Hello, Scarface! Did ya know that Bill Williamson's real name is Marion?" "What the..."

[@sourcelad1783]

That’s why I love Arthur

[@aztecwolf8103]

"Marion? I didn't know that was a man's name."

[@NexTheGreat]

Nah, because Low Honor, cold-blooded Arthur and Micah would’ve gotten along real nice

[@MrsSammic85]

I wish I got your outfits

[@noname-xo5mp]

Micah makes me want to quit smoking

[@Leon_S._Kennedy]

You should

[@Minchken]

Micah's equine-esque laugh killed me. This game had so few moments where Arthur and Micah here palling around. Wish they could have pulled a 180 on his character, like him and arthur slowly start to dislike each other more and more until a certain mission happens where they slowly become very very close friends and end up helping John and Arthur. He'd either Help marston if Arthur decided to get the money or would decide to get the money if Arthur helped marston.

[@jemoder196]

Arthur and Micah could have been a great duo! The only missions I like with Micah are the coach robbery in chapter 2 and the shootout in Rhodes in chapter 3, those 2 missions really showed that Arthur and Micah were a great duo.

[@robbyraystewart6978]

Pretty sure that was a horse

[@roleey1684]

Would indeed be nice if we had more personal quests with Micah to feel the shock of betrayal in the end even more, but there is no need in wattpad stories, remember, they are collegues above all, even banditism is a workplace where Micah is the asshole

[@alladeenmdfkr2255]

That was a horse in the ending if you are referring to that

[@themadtitan7603]

I would've preferred if they made Micah more likeable with redeeming qualities instead of the cartoonishly evil standout of the gang. Keep his wild and violent tendencies but have him be loyal and friendly with certain gang members like Arthur, that way, when he betrays us it'd be vastly more shocking and heartbreaking than it ended up being in the game.

[@matthewryan2060]

The plucked that out of the movie Holes.

[@Kubinda12345]

"My oh my...what a nasty momma and daddy you must have had." - Micah is really savage :-D

[@TheNobleShade]

This conversation can occur at other campsites, and I'm surprised that it's allowed to happen here.

[@deionrobinson7341]

I'm just glad nobody outside my family knew my embarrassing nickname

[@blackflamefegari5756]

Honestly, Micah is a great character in the game as a foil to Arthur. I think Milton lied about him being the rat so that if Arthur escaped he’d be to busy ripping the gang apart instead of warning them to run. Yes Micah is evil but he is a very different kind of evil

[@arthurjohnson7473]

Even the horse laughed at the end.

[@Hexaggram]

the horse laugh at the end is SO FUCKING GOOD

[@P4RK3R1Z3D]

Imagine if this was the line of dialogue that leads Micah and Arthur to talk out their differences and settle everything peacefully.

[@sunvaroya]

Marion is a kinda cool name

[@MrMitchbow]

Nice hide table cover, well done

[@Edwin_TAG2]

John should have said in rdr1 "Marion Williamson! Get out here I've come for you!"

[@_oldoasis_]

Missed opportunity for Micah and Arthur to mutually enjoy teasing people.

[@Khiruji]

That interaction is why I thought they could become somewhat friends.

[@Spidexx]

NAH THE HORSE LAUGH AT THE END🤣🤣🤣

[@BrahmaDBA]

I know a dude named William Williams. We just call him Bill Williams or Billy Williams.

[@bozotheclown_1993]

This interaction can also occur at Clemen's Point in Chapter 3, surprisingly.

[@brazenmarek6195]

This is the common out of sequence camp encounter glitch, this encounter is supposed to be in chapter 3

[@theguywhoasked6858]

Even the horse laughed at the end :Þ

[@coleperna4345]

Marion is the real name of John Wayne the actor! This is really flying over a lot of peoples heads

[@_dsn671]

Out of all people to reveal that too, Bill chose Micah. He deserves to get made fun of for that. 😂

[@nitrolight1778]

I wish there was more stuff like this of Micah and Arthur getting along. I wish Micah could have been a more likeable character because it would have been more of a shock when he betrays the gang. As it is currently, Micah's betrayal just felt predictable.

[@gokufromfortnite5600]

I think that's the point it helps the player in feeling the frustration Arthur feels when he sees Dutch listening to only Micah even though he's so blatantly awful

[@Majg96]

"He's a very sensitive lady". 😂💀

[@inqu2539]

1:40 you can hear the horses laugh at arthur's joke

[@UB13]

John: "Hey Marian, you're f*ckin' gay! As in homosexual!"

[@halfblooddutchprince]

"Say, I didn't know Marion was a man's name!"

[@TheColoneloftruth]

oh this is a reference to John Wayne's real name, Marion Morrison

[@Ray_treks]

John Wayne’s name at birth was Marion Robert Morrison… it can’t be a coincidence 😂

[@nagy1378]

i felt sad for bill when i saw this