I'll never stop playing modern games like it's still 1998

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I still game like it's 1998 - even with modern games. 4:3 gaming just scratches a particular itch that nothing else does, and the reduced input latency I get in games like ‪@Splitgate‬ is unmatched.
The improved motion clarity, the zero added input latency - CRTs just beat out LCDs in nearly every way. Don't just read this, let me show you.
Enjoy the ride.
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[@ErockOnTech]

Two questions for you. 1. How does this compare to an OLED? Correct me if I am wrong, but OLEDs claim instant response times correct? 2. How would I connect my PC to a CRT? I have a 3080 with HDMI 2.1.

[@lostsaves]

Both answered in the video essay on main! kzbin.info/www/bejne/jXqnloF_qdlpb9U ;)

[@RandomUser-tj3mg]

Oled is fast but not as fast as crt. And crt's still have much better motion clarity

[@adamplechaty]

Use a VGA to HDMI converter. Better would be VGA to USB-C tho. Bigger bandwith. And no OLEDs still can't be CRTs in response times.

[@juanme555]

I bet you already watched the vid but i wanna leave this written here just for posterity: 1) OLED has deeper but more uniform blacks. 2) OLED matches CRT Input Lag but still cannot match its motion clarity, to get an OLED close to CRT Motion clarity you need black frame insertion, which always dobles input lag, but in your case, that would still match CRT because for you to use a CRT you'll be needing a displayport or hdmi to vga adapter, which adds a bit of input lag. Both techs, including OLED with BFI enabled and CRT using a digital to analog adapter, will still be A LOT faster and clearer than ALL ips and va monitors, the only thing that comes close to that level of speed and clarity on the lcd market is the Zowie XL2566K which for you, if you're looking into OLEDs and CRT's , will not be worth it because it has colors that you will find physically repugnant. Both technologies will be doing sub 1ms input lag, at their best, oled may be 0.80ms input lag while crt may be 0.13 or 0.20ms , but both will be noticeably faster and smoother than a +9 ms lcd, basically, 120hz on OLED or CRT will feel like 360hz on led unless its the Zowie XL2566K, which feels like an oled or crt, but looks like cardboard. As for how these monitors compare to each other in real singleplayer games, that's an entirely different topic, but basically, OLED is like a perfect light, whereas CRT looks like a candle in the dark, they're both beautiful but for different use cases, Resident Evil 7 looks a trillion times better on any CRT than on any OLED or lcd, but Cyberpunk 2077 looks best on an OLED than any other display tech, but plasma does get close.

[@alexfrideres1198]

since CRT's create the image by literally projecting a stream of light directly onto the phosphor coated glass, you are basically operating on the input latency of light itself lol, an oled is alot faster than an LCD but nothing compared to a CRT

[@bradenyovich6139]

Props to this guy for uploading the video in 4:3 to make it easier to watch on my CRT. Cheers!

[@lostsaves]

Of course!

[@Sombre____]

He don't have something else than a CRT, i don't think than he is able to record a video in another format than 4:3.

[@Skittlespillygog]

@@epluribusunum5318 >shows him using his options >he has options, but choose not use them

[@niclaskrause7717]

​@@Sombre____ there's 16:10 CRTs tbf

[@DrangusKahn]

What is the game at 3:21?@@lostsaves

[@bj0urne]

If companies just started to make CRT options again, I'd buy such a screen instantly

[@prebenjaeger]

"Just"? The factories and production behind these things were insane.

[@KenjiFox]

Unfortunately, they were almost a miracle. We will _NEVER_ see something as advanced or complex as a CRT sold to the public or manufacturer at all again. Period. Most people completely misunderstand how insane and complex they are. To manufacture such a thing, it was only possible due to scale. These days, it would cost literally millions each since you'd never sell more than a small few thousand of them. The mass adoption allowed the perfect storm to make them fairly cheap for what they were. The mass and size alone would make them impossible to distribute and sell these days. At least large ones.

[@sassyMcpussy]

@@KenjiFoxill settle for an oled monitor than!

[@stephensalex]

...and I'd be standing in line with you, wallet at the ready.

[@jinz0]

​@@KenjiFoxnah they are not as difficult as you think and with modern technology you can make the parts and materials a lot easier

[@Nick930]

I love how you rendered the video at 4K60fps but the footage is (mostly) 4:3. Awesome haha

[@lostsaves]

2880x2160! Gotta get that high bitrate encode, papa bless AI upscaling

[@maltoNitho]

Mostly? Pretty sure all lol

[@lostsaves]

Mostly is probably right. I think Infinite only renders 5:4 despite being set to the right res so I stretched it a tiny bit and BF2042 was technically rendering in 16:9 720p just squished to the monitor

[@Nick930]

@@lostsaves I said mostly because you captured off screen footage using what I assume was a 4k camera

[@christiangottsacker6932]

@@Nick930 dude haha move along and hand in yer book report ( ͠° ͟ʖ ͡°)

[@onogrirwin]

One of my personal fantasies involves Sony realizing they have a mothballed CRT factory and reviving the Trinitron brand to offer fresh new CRTs in the modern day. Imagine being able to use a CRT that's new, has a warranty, just works out of the box, has the geometry set perfectly, is actually bright because it's not 25 years old, and has modern inputs on the back...

[@tikkasen_urakointi]

If "modern inputs" mean something that is digital, then it completely ruins it because it adds latency. DVI, HDMI and DisplayPort also all have DRM functionalities in their protocols.

[@onogrirwin]

@@tikkasen_urakointi I understand, but what's the alternative?

[@tikkasen_urakointi]

@@onogrirwin Analog.

[@onogrirwin]

@@tikkasen_urakointi Modern GPUs don't have analog outputs...

[@tikkasen_urakointi]

@@onogrirwinThen they cannot have zero latency, and they will always have DRM enabled. Everything is converted to analog before it is physically shown on the screen.

[@Schmidteren]

CRT was amazing for FPS games. I remember switching to LCD. Man, what a shitshow regarding motion handling compared to CRT.

[@InnuendoXP]

And just responsiveness. Also forget about playing at sub-native resolutions. Lower resolutions on CRTs don't even look 'bad'

[@parkmallbaby]

Too bad I realized this too late. I was a CRT monitor user until 2012 when I switched LCD playing FPS gave me eye problems and migraines.

[@HiltTilt]

OLED is the future

[@Schmidteren]

@@HiltTilt Yeah. But I still want to play 1080p on my monitor, and there are no 1080p, high hz oled monitors out there. :D

[@KenjiFox]

@@HiltTilt No, the only thing that will ever take on and beat CRT is uLED. Micro LED is everything OLED wishes it could be. True individual LEDs per each sub pixel complete with instant response times and basically zero wear or image retention. It will be a while before we can get the dot pitch where it needs to be (there goes the CRT lingo) no matter whether they are arranged in shadow mask or aperture grill. These will be the brightest, fastest, and longest lasting displays ever. LEDs can react faster than phosphor can, but the control system can't be as fast as analog CRT. They are the ultimate display tech to finally replace CRT though.

[@CubeAtlantic]

CRT's are so high-quality & pleasant to eyes sometimes i miss using these they were amazing in the 2000's doe :D

[@mikkelkirketerp4884]

Just get a good OLED lige the Asus pg27aqdm

[@yourfriendlyneighborhoodsc1447]

I'm trying to convince as many people as possible to live their lives as if it's the late 90s / early 2000's. so this video brings me great joy.

[@127Kronos]

Tbh, same. We need to go back to CRT screens, old phones. The style of fashion and the music was great then.

[@adrnacad3434]

@@127Kronos We all need to go outside and touch grass.

[@127Kronos]

@@adrnacad3434 BRO I SWEAR LMAO

[@floatingdisembodiedhead8975]

I'm late to this but I'm in. Late 90s/early 00s was legit the best time of my life. How do we start though?

[@alexs_music_lab]

@@bitchface235 I was born in the early 2000s but I feel like the 90s is more my thing than anything modern. Most things were just better, such as video games, aesthetics, music, tv shows, movies, etc.

[@lolizorz]

So you're telling me this is the main reason I became worse at fps games, and not the fact that I got older?

[@iclicklike3397]

Used to playing q3 and cs on 100hz CRTs for over a decade. Switched to 16:9 LED for screen space in EVE online and some MMOs. Tried quake live on it and just couldn't get these perfect 180+180 turns. It's weird, pretty sure there is more to it than response times. Perhaps only the very high end flat panels work. On a cheaper LED anything first person just feels shit and unplayable.

[@devilshadow8913]

Yes it was and getting older didn't help on lcd

[@WMan37]

2 added benefits: You don't need to buy GPUs that are anywhere near as expensive. Though you may be paying more for your power bill by using a CRT, your PC needs far less power to render in 4:3 1024x768 since even modern entry level cards are often rated for at least 1280x720 performance. The second benefit is that if you do a lot of emulation, or play a lot of older games, you don't need to use "scanline filters" to make them look as intended.

[@gruntaxeman3740]

Older games content were actually designed to lower resolutions so it looks terrible if looked at some 4k resolution. I always set game resolution to match with prerendered cutscene resolution or some other hint that reveals what resolution content was designed. It looks better then but of course you can crank up antialias / anisotropic etc. settings from graphic driver. That also means image aspect ratio.

[@GouShin1]

1440x1080 would be the default resolution which is 4:3 1080p.

[@gruntaxeman3740]

@@GouShin1 1600x1200 was optimal high resolution to 21" CRT. Very same reason wide screen professional LCD displays are 16:10 aspect ratio having 1920x1200 resolution. That is excellent for playing games for various aspect ratios and resolutions. Older games it makes sense to use 640x480 (I use that on PSX emulator), 800x600 worked perfectly on 1920x1600 screen when playing Prince of Persia, Sands of Time or Syberia 1&2. That is the resolution for original Xbox era games. Penumbra series worked best on 1024x768 and that was released 2007..2009. Usually games made for Xbox 360/PS3 era looked good in 1280x720 when using PC.

[@todesziege]

I really can't be stressed enough how much better low resolutions look on a CRT.

[@Jvk1166z]

i still get the top of the line hardware. why? because then i can crank up the super-sampling, which looks godly on my CRT with a little bit of sharpening thrown on in the drivers, and then crank up the raytracing. raytracing with supersampling and sharpening on a properly calibrated CRT just outright shits on every other display technology. for reference i've ran 1600x1200@85hz on my g220fb for years, i cant imagine how amazing a fw900 running at 1920x1200@95hz would be, i've come across several great specimens i could have bought, some day in the future i'll also have the money available to do so at the same time.

[@KageMinowara]

I still have a couple of CRT TVs. Lately I've been re-playing my collection of PS1 & PS2 games on it. They look so much better being played that way than modern port versions on a flatscreen.

[@Minty1337]

this is basically how i've been gaming for the past few years, thanks for the 4:3 btw!

[@TeaOS]

Gods you're gonna turn me into a Retro collector aren't you

[@lostsaves]

Mwahahaha

[@blunderingfool]

There's a 3rd reason for using a CRT... You're hopelessly nostalgic like me and just love CRT glow.

[@ClaytonCLF]

I'm glad I found both of your channels! It's a bliss watching someone, specially in such a great quality, pouring out their love for CRTs! I've been daily driving 17" PC monitors since around 2015. They're nice for high resolutions and refresh rates and all, but people seem to forget that they can go pretty low as well! I love me some Quake at 320x200. I've asked around, and it seems Quake, and just about any 320x200 game, were never supposed to have scanlines, since they were almost always line doubled to 640x400 (60 or 70Hz, to match 31kHz), but having 320x200@144Hz set on my GPU driver settings, just works (in DOOM, also)! Not to forget emulation: 1280x224@130Hz, 1280x240@120Hz, and even a custom 256x192@150Hz (yes, crazy) are all resolutions I use on my emulators! Arcade games look so sharp, since it's very easy to match the odd resolutions most of them had. My only wish was to find a bigger screen, because most of the text in modern games simply wasn't optimized for anything lower than 20", and even at something like 1440x1080 (the max res my monitors can reach), it's very hard to read most of the text on a 17" screen. Here in Brazil, people have been dumping PCs along with their monitors since around 2011, because of smartphones and all, but just when I started looking for a CRT in good condition (2015), I was too late to the party. I had a 19" Samsung that lasted me a month before getting color issues. I also came across another, more recent, 19" with crazy resolutions, but I let that go simply because the colors were weird. Had to kick myself many times in the butt a little while later for realizing that it had to be because it simply wasn't degaussed, and it was also sitting on a metal bench when the owner showed it to me...

[@lostsaves]

Low res Quake is such a vibe!

[@fthprodphoto-video5357]

I sadly had to trow away 3 Eizo Flexscan CRT monitors. They had all RGB, and VGA connections, superb quality. I grabbed 12 of these screens from a Bank who switched to flat screens for free and sold them around 50-100€ a piece to video makers and hardcore gamers. I kept 3 of these for myself but my parents didn’t want to keep them because they took too much space…

[@thegeforce6625]

Feel for ya heaps dude. :(

[@Grandmaster-Kush]

It was the norm man, we threw away two top line CRT monitors one 60 and one 75hz, alongside two CRT tvs they were E waste during mid 2000s no one thought we would go back.

[@RockinEnabled]

I have been always curious how people happen to come across such a thing as an organisation giving away their old tech...

[@fthprodphoto-video5357]

@@RockinEnabled a friend of mine used to work at this bank called me to pick them up : they literally put them outside on the street in Geneva

[@RockinEnabled]

@@fthprodphoto-video5357 oh, that's what I thought. It's good they put them outside for everyone to indulge though :)

[@redgouf]

This video is even presented in 4:3. You are an absolute legend.

[@Vegatablez]

I finally got a couple crts over the last few months, WoW classic on them is an absolute nostalgia tidal wave. Im happy with this little 17" NEC diamondtron, but im hoping I can find a 21" some day. I missed a listing on a 21" dell trinitron for 20$ last week 😭

[@Jacev_]

This video just popped up on my newsfeed and the title absolutely intrigued me. I thought, "What the hell does that even mean??" and had to watch. As someone who never really paid attention to things like input latency etc, my mindset was always "git gud" or "a poor worker always blames his tools" - but watching the video and listening to you explain your points made me actually read up on this more and I gotta say. Throughly enjoyed watching your vid. Learnt something new today, gained a newfound appreciation for things such as refresh rate etc and overall, enjoyed everything about your video. Glad that this video randomly came up on my feed.

[@mrmerlin6287]

Took me a few years after the advent of flat panel monitors to realise why games felt better before... Had a stash of CRTs now for years and years and my friends think I'm a weirdo for hoarding these things and taking them wherever I move to rather than giving them up.

[@SundreeOFFICIAL]

Glad this video popped up in my recommended, made me decide to get my old CRT back out of my closet once again to use for my computer setup. I like using it for stuff like Discord and other online feeds but it's also super awesome for games like Classic Doom and some 90's/early 2000's visual novels.

[@6bIgJIo]

Thanks for the vid! I remember playing first PC games back in 2001. My dad bought a fresh PIII 700 Mhz, 128 RAM, Riva TNT 2 Ultra 32 Mb PC, with a fantastic (almost) flat 17" Samsung 753DF CRT. Man, I was amazed. I mean, UT '99, Quake 3, Serious Sam, Soldier of Fortune 2, all those games really did look stunning.

[@lostsaves]

Hell yeah!

[@netnomad47]

Thank you for making this video in 4:3. It looks great on my Pixel Fold without having to zoom in and cut off the sides

[@RobertAragonIsGhxst]

I remember gaming on a big crt tv when i was a kid with my gamecube and i loved the glass screen

[@BBKDRAGOON]

Absolutely awesome video

[@lostsaves]

Thank you very much!

[@DhinCardoso]

You absolutely nailed it! CRT is the way to go. I have five of them until the death (mine or them)

[@ofoosy]

Thanks for rendering this in 4:3

[@harryhalfmoon]

How do you not have more than 5.2K subscribers with such production quality? Your narration style, your voice, the writing, the pacing - it is. So. Good.

[@SP95]

I watched it on a big 4:3 monitor 😎 Thanks for the HD captures as it spared me the time to see how they looked like after install lel

[@lostsaves]

Glad you enjoyed!

[@rouhee]

Just upgrading from 60hz to 75hz led monitor helped me drastically in OW back in the day. was High Silver, climbed up to High Gold and even Low Plat.

[@miamidademtb1357]

As someone who grew up with CRTs and 4:3 formats, i still feel like 4:3 was the best ratio

[@rahckut8634]

Picking up a SONY GDM-F520 from a friend who had one forever and never really used it; super stoked especially after digging up one of my old dell crts and booting up the quake remaster and playing through that

[@lostsaves]

Oh hell yes!!!!

[@themblan]

There needs to be a new display-technology with the lightness and thinness of LCD and the benefits of CRT.

[@lostsaves]

OLED

[@zvndmvn]

Protect and cherish the humble CRT. They are a dying breed.

[@Kyle1444]

CRT is so amazing, nothing has matched it still. Not even OLED. I miss mine every day. I had 5 different ones, one 17" 160hz died, two were lost from moving around, a 15" 60hz 1024x768 and a 17" 160hz 800x600. The forth really needed repair for being too blurry and i still regret throwing it out. A sony trinitron 19", and a viewsonic 19" i sold when i should have kept it today

[@ChiefKeith.]

montage at the end was sick af

[@gamagama69]

watching this on my crt. as god intended

[@RogueBeatsARG]

The FPS increase of a 1024x768 screen would be insane

[@aodfr]

Facinating. I keep this mind my game dev stuff and I know that its possible to query the hardware for display options in code.

[@guysmiley4830]

The day I replaced my CRT with an LED was the day I stopped being competitive at CoD. I can't express the frustration and disappointment.

[@SaItyStudios]

You are deadly accurate with that CRT I wouldn't wanna be in a ranked match with you I'd break my PC. This makes me wanna get a CRT so badly.

[@matyi1656]

An ultrawide's center still has all 4:3, it just got extra on the sides which is better for FPS games since you have more visual periphery information. In FPS games, left and right periphery holds extremly valuable information, top and bottom is just sky and ground, both of those are irrelevant mostly (there are games of course where people can jump on you from up, that coud be an exception). In other games, like for an RTS, flight sim, space sim, 4:3 might be better, since valuable information can also appear on top and bottom as well.

[@NicholasBrakespear]

Actually, not particularly true. The peripheral visual fields are not particularly relevant in an FPS game if you're good at the game and paying attention; in a well-designed FPS title played by someone who doesn't suck, if something needs to be visible? The player already has it vaguely centred in their vision. If peripheral visual information is actually relevant? It usually means someone got the jump on you, and you weren't paying attention to other environmental cues, or weren't correctly tracking the movements of targets. Meanwhile, unless you're playing a game that lets you reposition all the HUD elements so they're clustered around the middle of the screen, the increased distance between the crosshair and your health bar etc means that moment to moment, your brain and eyes are having to do a lot more work to take in all the information on the screen. At 4:3, you don't actually lose any significant information, and the information you're receiving is far more efficiently delivered. And that's leaving aside the fact that 4:3 resolutions achieve a higher pixel density at lower performance cost. For example, 1024x768 is a higher clarity resolution than 1280x720, despite the fact that 1280x720 = 921,000 pixels, while 1024x768 = 786,000 pixels. I'd say there's perhaps a slight advantage to widescreen for console shooters, because turn speed is much slower so you need more warning of targets entering your field of view (again though, you should know they're there before they enter visual), and the FOV tends to be much, much lower.

[@RicochetForce]

@@NicholasBrakespear That's nice and all, but most developers prevent the use of 21:9 in competitive environments because it absolutely presents a tactical advantage over 16:9 users. Especially if the game is played in third person. You see so much more game environment that it affects your planning and awareness.

[@NicholasBrakespear]

@@RicochetForce In games with inferior audio feedback I'm sure that's true. But given the basic limits of peripheral vision (that it's mostly good for spotting movement), the actual number of situations where the extra screen width is genuinely the deciding factor? Is incredibly small. For example, let's say you're in a space that's big and open enough that you have direct line of sight at a wide angle on targets - well, that also means you are in literally everyone else's line of sight. So the tactical advantage there is rather heavily offset by the fact that you are wide open. In Battlefield-style games, the only time you'd ever open yourself up to this scenario is if you're playing sniper, and you're on a ridge you can duck below. And then of course, you're using a scope due to the distance, which utterly negates the wider vision anyway (and that's leaving aside the irony of using a wider screen when the majority of modern shooters have heavy use of iron sights, and have a depth of field/blur effect/FOV reduction when doing so). Most good FPS level design simply does not feature the kind of wide open spaces where you'd even make use of the extra screen width - the average shooter environment will involve solid level geometry on at least one side of you the majority of the time. And in these closer-range engagements, if seeing a little extra to the side has decided your fate? You sucked. It meant you weren't checking your corners, and you weren't paying attention, because nothing should have been so close to you without you knowing exactly where it was and what it was doing. Of course, what also rather dumps on the apparent "advantage" of a wider screen ratio is the issue of FOV... and the fact that you can have a large FOV with a narrow screen ratio; that field of view and screen width are not connected. In fact, when it comes to processing a wider visual field, 4:3 with a high FOV is far, far more efficient; your eyes literally don't have to move, and you're not relying on peripheral vision. Everything you need to see is within an optimal vision cone. In fact, due to these basic issues of distance and environmental design, I really can't think of any scenario in which having a wider screen genuinely affords the player a tactical advantage. I mean, has everyone just forgotten about "slicing the pie"? There's a reason that's the preferred technique in real life, rather than standing in the doorway and using the full width of your vision to identify threats when entering a given space.

[@RicochetForce]

@@NicholasBrakespear Thanks for the discussion, Nicholas. Unfortunately, we disagree here on a fundamental level and I've heard some of your points argued with TOs regarding the use of ultrawide monitors. They absolutely refuse and cite legitmate advantages to that game presentation that either most be mitigated (but doing what Overwatch does and cropping so it robs it of its advantage) or restricts the game render output to 16:9. And while you're speaking strictly with regard to FPS, I'm talking about advantages across the board in all genres. To say nothing of the immersion advantage Lost mentioned.

[@NicholasBrakespear]

@@RicochetForce Well it's a little disappointing that you have nothing to say about the rather irrefutable issue of FOV not being connected to screen size, other than "disagree", and maintain a rather vague reference to "advantages", but okay.

[@Iearnwithme]

Not sure what I was expecting but I definitely did not expect this video to have such a crazy montage

[@andrewb.4075]

I still got a 19" monitor, in this ratio as you have. Great times indeed. Todays 16:9 27" is just totally modern, but some games are just soulless / or have too complicated (sickening, depressing) backstories... Gaming must be a fun time.

[@meleniumshane90]

CRTs are definitely nice if they were made by a good manufacturer. A lot of the consumer CRTs were garbage. It's kind of funny to see trash sets being listed for high dollar amounts with "retro" and "gaming" being referenced. I have 20 CRTs currently, mostly SD Trinitrons, but I recently grabbed a 21" Sony GDM-5410 tube that I'm reconditioning right now. I completely forgot that the 60hz flicker drove me nuts. I remember changing the refresh rate on any monitor I used to 75 or 85Hz back in the day. Anyhoo, back to WIN DAS calibration videos!

[@lostsaves]

Plenty of consumer stuff was great, too! Just only the cheapest of the cheap was pretty limited in bandwidth. And yeah, thankfully 75hz was usually the minimum default back then. Can’t even get my Windows 98 and XP installs to let me set 60 on some of my CRTs atm

[@meleniumshane90]

Maybe something with the EDID data. I had to use CRU to manually add the resolutions & refresh rates in Windows 10 on my laptop. I am limited by the MiniDP to VGA adapter. I'll find out once I put this C2Q / 9800GT build together & install XP.

[@lostsaves]

Yeah the converters can be hit or miss

[@mothcub]

I miss having a CRT so bad ;____;

[@lostsaves]

Time to get another!!!

[@bestopinion9257]

My CRT Philips 17'' is dying. ;(

[@cpl.barbarusc4814]

Wow, CRT takes me back when I played PS2 and GameCube games with my friends. And my early days of PC Gaming with Age of Mythology/Empires 2, Aliens vs. Predator 2 and the time my cousins gave me their most precious possesion, a cool as hell N64.

[@paulvallejo]

I´ve been after a CRT for a while. The degauss feature is amazing for demagnetizing mechanical watches

[@rob0nemusic369]

I love retrogaming on a CRT TV. I never used a pc CRT and I would love to try this. I remember having a CRT at 6, but can't remember how does this looks or feel. The point you gave about 4/3 is interesting. 21/9 doesn't necessary mean wider, it can feels like a 16/9 beeing cropped. I use a 27inches monitor for gaming, and often find the HUD hard to read. The 4/3 ratio helps to focus on more information within a smaller space. I also have a question : how do you plug a modern pc on CRT without latency ?

[@RicochetForce]

His point about 21:9 is actually dead wrong. 21:9 isn't cropped 4K.It's the 16:9 resolution with 50% more image on the left and right. It's not "narrow".

[@lostsaves]

People really misunderstood that point to hell and back, huh? I was talking about comparing an ultrawide to 4k. 3440x1440 is nearly the same width of 4k, but missing a ton of height. I’d rather just have that height. Same with 2560x1080 - that’s just a 1440p monitor cropped down, I’d rather just have 1440p full sizw

[@RicochetForce]

@@lostsaves But why are you comparing a 4K display, which is 16:9 to a 3440x1440p display, which is 21:9? The correct comparison would be a 1080p 16:9 to a 1080pUW 21:9 monitor or a 5120x2160 display (ultrawide counterpart to 4K) to a 3840x2160 panel. Anyone who liked the benefits of an ultrawide (and had the wildly deep pockets to afford a 2160p UW) would spring for that over 4K.

[@lostsaves]

How is that the "correct comparison"? You're not limited to only those choices. For the same footprint/cost/etc. You compare to the closest size. Because again, with a 5120x2160 monitor, I could get a proper 5K monitor and still have more screen real estate lol@@RicochetForce

[@iwakurasape]

4:3 will always be superior

[@anaguma90]

The death of 4:3 was a travesty

[@polycube868]

When I was a kid and widescreen was slowly getting popular I thought widescreen TVs looked like a really wide short fat man.

[@mrhenky42]

Playing old point and clicks on these screens just hits different.

[@sligacheese6470]

I’m great full to have my old computers win xp crt monitor and over 300 games from 1995-2007.

[@bendanzi8338]

I'm looking to maybe add a CRT at some point to my room but I also was thinking about finding a way to place a modern monitor inside the frame of a wider CRT body simply for the aesthetic. I'd love to have a desk area that looks straight out of the 90s but with all the modern features just hidden in other devices

[@grizzlyindustries7593]

CRTs were definitely an interesting set to play on. I'm happy your interested in playing on CRTs and take advantages from it. Yet, for me, I like better visuals and colors. Now, I played on CRTs again. During the beginning of covid, I gave my PC to my sister so her and my mother could make videos for my mother's church(and they also took the camera equipment as well). When that happened, I was only left with my phone. Luckily game streaming from your phones and things like Genshin Impact came out(when it wasn't intensive enough to play on low end phones unlike now). Sooo...I had to find games, consoles, and a set to play on. Luckily my brother is amazing at preservation and keeps everything in nice areas like you do(it's like walking into a retro store). So I visited him. I got my PS2 Slim and GBA SP. And I was making money at the time building computers for others with mostly used and some new components. However, covid immediately put that business when everything shot up in price to a halt. So, I used my understanding of local sellers and customers. I ended up getting three CRTs for free! And after experiencing each, I must've got a bad batch of different kinds. The first one being a pink Disney themed tv. It has speakers built-in and it has pretty great sound. Until it literally exploded, fire and all when playing FFVI on the PS2. Then then HUGE and I mean GIGANTIC kinda flat screen CRT. It stopped working and turns out it's bulbs where on the brink and of course I destroyed it. I thought it was absolutely my fault cause I was trying to be careful, yet it's bulbs burnt out and crapped the rotary. And finally, a CRT monitor which I was wanting to use to play FPS such as yourself. It's cables where too old and when I started using it literally with my CRT expert next to me. It popped! And that was it. It fried everything. So with my experiences of CRTs. It extremely hard to find them in good albeit usable condition. Yet, I found a monitor without any stand and a broken DVI port at a thrift store which I got for $3. I fixed the DVI port with zero knowledge of soldering. And you know what, it's fantastic and it's colors are actually really good. I also have a Xbox 360(free), PS4 slim($40), and Nintendo Switch v1($200 with a bunch of games) which I fixed cause they were "broken". All they needed was tlc...and rubbing alcohol with right amounts thermal paste and pads. I learned that there are many things I can enjoy that I can fix if broken. Yet, CRTs are not one of those. Once they are gone. They are pretty much dead. Which is sad cause they really weren't built to last. Yet, I do understand the enjoyment even if it was short lived.

[@lostsaves]

That's upsetting to hear. I've collected over 25 CRTs in recent years, even one that was rained on, and the only ones to have died were just packed horrendously and had the neck break during shipping. The one with the "bulbs" would have probably been a DLP rear projection TV, not a CRT. CRTs don't have bulbs :)

[@grizzlyindustries7593]

@@lostsaves Main reason my buddy, Andrew, told me was the fact that we live in the southeast USA. The humidity here...is insane. And even if you are indoors in a dry room or well air conditioned room in a sealed space ship like cave. The humidity WILL get into the electronics and it WILL kill it. Which where as modern(well 2000s to today) components can be dried out and reused with rubbing alcohol and tlc. Something about older technology in this area just all die eventually. It's why not only the CRTs given to me died. It's why the majority of all CRTs die faster in this area than most. Or even older audio equipment or older computers and server racks. It sucks but it's the truth. I hope experience CRTs again in some way like I did when I was young to teen years. But, for right now, it's not happening.

[@lostsaves]

That’s also where I live lol

[@grizzlyindustries7593]

@@lostsaves Okay. So you understand. It's that moment where I could go to hell and I'll be like, "Hmm. It's chilly in here."

[@spideyz64]

I just love that this video is in 4:3. Btw I am viewing this on a crt

[@lostsaves]

Yesssss

[@-Conn-]

I remember starting a job and seeing a CRT on my desk. I laughed at the archaic dinosaur until I downloaded a game to play during my downtime. Blew my mind.

[@Sonyboj]

I have a shitty VA 144hz panel and its so bad ;_; Black smear all over the screen.

[@JellyFix]

Thats why i play worse.

[@RohanAirsoft]

I used to have a 24” widescreen CRT that was deeper than it was wide and so heavy that 16 year old me could not physically carry it alone. Did something like 1800x1440 at 80hz.

[@Aardcore]

I'll be honest; I'd do anything to have my CRT's again. I had a Fujitsu 19'' CRT and this unknown monstrosity I bought off some dude on my local Craigslist which was like maybe 22'' and weighed probably 50 pounds!! I didn't care, dual monitor setup with those was awesome and I still regret having handed off to a Goodwill donation center. Gaming on a CRT was good, real good. Dated? You bet your ass off it is, but there's still nothing like it. Nearly 20 years later and I still feel the pain of those valuable milliseconds of input delay playing on today's LCD's. In gaming, that actually matters, and I miss it so much.

[@mesfigas]

glad i discover your channel my 1st PC was at january 1998 intel pentium mmx 166

[@lostsaves]

Thanks for watching! And rad PC

[@valentin7318]

Great Video. Awesome voice, you can easily broadcast sports on tv with that voice.

[@MrSheduur]

yeah I still remember playing Team Fortress Classic on CRTs. When switching to a TFT it always felt a bit weird at first due to the almost ghosting effect in motion, but modern flatscreens are in a much better place now than they were in 1999. The biggest problem I had when playing on CRTs was the headaches I would get after playing for longer stretches, this was the main reason I got a flatscreen. No more headaches :)

[@cap1gaming]

this is awesome, CRT FTW 🔥

[@Revenant_Knight]

Nice. I still play on a CRT for some games as well.

[@florentalicevlogs543]

I also played tons of Halo PC on my CRT back in the days. I also was BLOWN away by MAX PAYNE. The slow mo + CRT is just crazy. I remember when my CRT died, i was so happy to get a flat LCD screen, i was 14 in 2004 and I didn't know so much about monitors, but I felt that something was wrong. It was the pixel response time, horrible. I miss my CRT much.

[@josiahferrell5022]

If anyone is having trouble finding the song starting around 0:23, if you follow the link, look for the song "Starstream Returns" on the album Synthrock Expansion Pack part 1. The song at 6:17 is "Midnight Racer" from the same album

[@lostsaves]

Songs in order (FREE from backingtrack.gg/ Stream & Video Safe): 1. Vaporwaves 2. StarStream Returns 3. Neon Nights 4. Midnight Racer

[@Jvk1166z]

I've been playing modern titles on my Viewsonic g220fb for years, and I've also had a SGI GDM5011p for longer! Well before the craze started! Right now my g220fb is connected to my 3080ti. My friends say I'm crazy and that their OLEDs/LCDs are so much better than my heavy, hot, power hungry CRT. I don't care though, I'm never getting rid of it, even when I find a fw900 that I can afford, I'll just push it to the side as a secondary monitor. The aspect ratio support thing though I'll never stop complaining about, I've found it weird that arbitrary aspect ratio support has all but vanished in a lot of games, they don't even offer UI safe zone controls anymore most of the time, I'd like to see that change. Personally, I actually like 4:3 a lot more than 16:9, for screenshots and photographs, which I take a lot, and for gaming as well. For me, you just cant beat a CRT, on high resolution modes with modern games, or low resolution modes at crazy refresh rates on lower fidelity games new and old with those SEXY scanlines. And with their incredible repair-ability they last forever, and those bulky chassis' really do make for a great place to stick stickers, and make it tell a story of my life. I could go on and on, I love CRTs, and truly hope they make a comeback.

[@PEBELtbk]

Great video!

[@lostsaves]

Thanks!

[@kebman]

OMG gaming on flatscreen CRTs made for color correction. It's SO overkill but... need headshots.

[@That-Ai]

thank you for your videos! you inspired me a lot to start my own channel!

[@lostsaves]

Rad! Enjoy the journey!

[@Sagarthauhbilayaceliosperiod.]

Nice!

[@luizfellipemariano1515]

I have a Samsung Plasma TV til this day and It still rocks. Very little input lag compared to LCD or LED TVs and way less blurry in fast movement images (like racing games). For me, a 4K plasma TV starts to feel like a great Idea.

[@Richard_Biggs]

Looks like I'll be digging my bros old crt out of the basement

[@MaybeTiberius]

i miss old tech so much. honestly besides screen size and over the years, coming down to image quality, nothing comes close to the crt i had back in the day. i also found the crts to be less straining on the eyes somehow and the overall representation is something we kind of lost forever with flatpanels. modern displays look too clean, and too 2dimensional artificial. looking at a modern display, your brain knows its just a super thin sheet of paper you look at. crts had a way more natural look. like: look outside of your window, looks nice right? now take the most expensive camera on the planet and take a photo of your window and print that on a flat surface and hang it to your wall... doesnt really look the same right? you immediately know, its just a picture and not an actual window you watch through

[@juxt_aposition9935]

bro this is so cool

[@kuabarra]

Love the aspect ratio of this video ;)

[@quinnmiddleton3082]

I watched this video on my CRT that I use as a second monitor, glad I did too, because now i'm ultamitely convinced I should game titanfall 2 on my CRT

[@MiBrCo4177]

recently came across a sony trinitron 24in crt and have fallen in love with my ps2 again. I almost forgot how crisp and clear the games look and how the nostalgia hit felt when i turned it on for the first time. the 'click, and hum' when you hit the power button, to the sound from the ps2.. the speakers are great and the games look just as good as they did 20 years ago!

[@lostsaves]

Yessss

[@white_mage]

nice frags

[@CommanderCOOL45]

Always wondered why I like playing crisis 2 on 360 with the CRT monitor. It always just felt right

[@devonmarr9872]

I love 4:3 big tv for the 360 era because split screen gave you 2 widescreens

[@lostsaves]

I always found it annoying playing them on widescreen TVs and some just gave you a 4:3 cropped view of the splitscreens anyway haha

[@haydenshortley]

I still use a CRT for my photo editing. The blacks and contrast can't be beat for what I paid for it. FREE!

[@lostsaves]

Hell yeah!

[@tiborreszegi6185]

This is why i play FPS games in window, in 4:3 ratio resolutions still today.

[@transformlifemusic]

i have a 48' inch OLED with apparently 0.1 ms response rate. it feels fast and i sometimes turn down resolution and scale to 4:3 on certain games just to feel like im playing it back in the day and its really enjoyable.

[@Artyom64824]

Sick with it.

[@norriizzTV]

Subbed! ❤

[@lostsaves]

Thanks for subbing!

[@TylerLarew]

I was literally born in 1998 😂 i do remember crt computer monitors though from the early half of my childhood. And my family didn't see our first flat screen tv till 2008.

[@ValHazzard]

Nothing compares to gaming in the 90s and 2000s. You might think I feel this way because I grew up during that era, but when I see young gamers today, I just don't see the same enthusiasm in their eyes-they seem so jaded. In the 90s and 2000s, we experienced something truly special in the world of gaming.

[@Aintyourbuddy_guy]

totally agree, 4/3 screens are more comfortable on your eyes too, and i do miss that vertical resolution you don't get on a 16:9 screen

[@Geeler]

Kudos to you for using 4:3 for the video

[@Quake199]

I remember a Viewsonic 19 inch monitor I had growing up. You could overclock it, so to speak, using a custom resolution and refresh rate. I could take it to close to 100 Hz on the lowest possible resolution. it was glorious.

[@DaLEGOmaniac]

Split gate is very fun. Looking forward to the next game from them.

[@evilgrandmaofficial]

Before I built my new gaming rig with a 40 series card I was still playing on my dusty but trusty ol’ PS3 for 10+ years. I had bought a cheap but nice 4K TV for it tho’, advertised for gaming. I also have this tiny Gründig CRT TV with a built in VHS player my dad took home from one of his work travels MANY years back. It even says “Made in West Germany” on the side. For nostalgia reasons I decided to take it out of the attic and hook it up. I was so surprised by how responsive and smooth playing on it was that I kept playing on it for 5+ months. Nowadays I play with my tower on a high HZ 4k QLED TV but after seeing this I might just hook up an old CRT to it some day.

[@MageZeroOne]

Years ago I wish I never threw out my CRT. Playing gears of war 1-3 on it felt like they looked miles better than when I got a newer TV, I even felt that way the moment I switched and turned the games on but I stuck with it because new = good in my mind.

[@alecatttheman896]

new equals good and most peoplr mind just look at comments during console reveals its full of people going nuts

[@adawg3032]

I think it would be epic if we could get a 4k CRT on the market that has the benefits stated of CRT but also having the visual of a modern monitor

[@socksonfeet8125]

I went through like 15 crt monitors over the years back in the day, they would just burn out eventually or the hud would burn into the screen lol. I'm not going back to that tech, I really just don't need to. I never play fps multiplayer games anymore, all my CS/UT days are way behind me. I'm good these days playing on 4k tv from the couch. Its still cool some folks are still using it, we cant get rid of the 60s mustangs either :D

[@matthewwilliams3827]

Same, I don’t play multiplayer anymore. Games like Day of Defeat (2001) on PC and rainbow six 3 on Xbox live I used to play so much. Those were magical years of gaming.

[@Mayday.Aerial]

4:3 is god tier, even in FPV drone racing we do it, lots of straight forward view with little to no eye wandering

[@ChrisVsRPG]

Sick 🤘

[@flouserschird]

I was gaming on a CRT monitor until around 2015. Only thing I didn’t have was widescreen. The picture looked great.