I Love Sonic 06

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It'sNickForShort

It'sNickForShort

3 жыл бұрын

No matter how hot this take is I needed to get my opinion out there on why I love this game unironically as a genuine Sonic fan and hopefully whether you agree or disagree we can all hope the best comes to Sonic soon!
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@EnerJazzOfficial
@EnerJazzOfficial 3 жыл бұрын
this game is really something special, honestly everything about it's production is a tragedy because of all the potential it had
@chandlerkarter8841
@chandlerkarter8841 2 жыл бұрын
i guess it is quite off topic but do anyone know of a good site to watch new tv shows online ?
@ccelite3782
@ccelite3782 3 жыл бұрын
Iblis is Solarisis' body and Mephiles is his mind. It's simple, how are people confused?
@ccelite3782
@ccelite3782 3 жыл бұрын
@@DerpaTure9503 it is the case 😐 it literally is. Otherwise why isn't Solaris just one form? Why go through the trouble of making two enemies form into one? Mephiles controls time, and Iblis can spread himself. Iblis shows no traits of speaking which means he's clearly not intelligent enough. Mephiles managed to decieve everyone so he could be with Iblis one more. What's the point of Mephiles wanting that if he isn't the mind of Solaris?
@lpfan4491
@lpfan4491 3 жыл бұрын
Iblis is the raw power, not the body. Solaris has no real physical body in the way we understand one.
@evdestroy5304
@evdestroy5304 3 жыл бұрын
Mephiles is the brain, Iblis is the brawn. Pretty obvious.
@papuel
@papuel 3 жыл бұрын
Shadow being a part of GUN makes perfect sense if you take the events of Shadow the Hedgehog challenge mode into account. Basically, after the Super Shadow story in that game, both GUN and Shadow come to terms, and he starts some training under them (there are plenty of voice-lines about this in that mode, with the general even inviting Shadow to his grandchild's birthday). When you consider that GUN doesn't trust Shadow completely, and Shadow doesn't trust GUN completely either, it makes sense for them to work together, to keep an eye on each other, and make sure the other keeps doing the right thing. From Shadow's point of view, after letting go of the past, what's the best way to keep Maria's promise if not joining the very organization that is meant to protect humanity? And if they ever show any signs of doing anything similar to what happened in the Ark, he'll be right there to stop them.
@arcaniumdragon2444
@arcaniumdragon2444 3 жыл бұрын
Perfection
@riot6721
@riot6721 3 жыл бұрын
Actually no. It would be much more logical if Gun was reformed but in shadows image where the main Gun personnel are taken into custody and face lawful justice after their crimes on the colony ark being exposed to the world leaving shadow with the duty of leading the corporation with an iron fist or under someone else with good deeds, all while maintaining his promise to Maria. He could also oversee the space ark that works as a base for him and the rest of sonics gang like the justice league satellite.
@antg2183
@antg2183 3 жыл бұрын
@@riot6721 What happened with G.U.N was like 50 years ago Sonic time. Whoever ordered that shit on the Arc was either retired or dead. Even if Shadow managed to do what you claim he should, he’d at best probably get like 5-10 old retired guys arrested and certainly not anyone from the actual Shadow the Hedgehog game
@riot6721
@riot6721 3 жыл бұрын
@@antg2183 Mabe so but Gun are still responsible for those murders, so someone will still need to be held accountable, especially that Gun coverd it up and tried to frame sonic during SA2 so no one finds out who shadow was. I mean its in dire need of redemption so I feel shadow especially for his multiple heroic acts should get to decide its fate, therefore shaping and reforming gun into his own image with the aid of others.
@antg2183
@antg2183 3 жыл бұрын
@@riot6721 Yea but again, you (and I maybe wrong about this) are making it seem like Shadow is going to arrest someone that we see ingame. Yea they could add that line in as some throwaway dialogue but the General was a victim of the same accident, the President more then likely know jack shit about the accident, and the people who did it either more then likely covered it up and then after some amount of odd years retired or died. Shadow would literally have more luck spotting someone at a concert from 50 miles away then actually finding out who ordered it. Now I’m not saying that they don’t deserve to stand trial but the actual likelihood of finding those people are slim (again anybody with even a lick of sense would definitely cover up their part in it and combine that with the amount of years that went by and yea very very hard to find that person)
@freyaljones7368
@freyaljones7368 3 жыл бұрын
I want sonic to go back being serious with character development and better stories and no mandates
@Kinomiyasan
@Kinomiyasan 3 жыл бұрын
Basically dbz
@MadSociety-uy6zg
@MadSociety-uy6zg 3 жыл бұрын
Same here I miss this so much.
@riot6721
@riot6721 3 жыл бұрын
We all do. Except for the Dbz thing since I don't get were that guy pulled that idea from?...
@cerebralmalsey
@cerebralmalsey 3 жыл бұрын
@@riot6721 Pretty funny how they still get away with it. As a matter of fact, since they tied it into the lore and Sonic is recognized for it, it will be really difficult for the guys who made Dragon Ball to sue Sonic Team.
@riot6721
@riot6721 3 жыл бұрын
@@cerebralmalsey like I know there are slight similarities between the two mediums but there still completely different and I don't remember any of the earlier sonic games with lore even coming across anywhere like dbz. Its only some of the silly fan made sprite animations that overuse the dbz vibe as well as the fans cross overs.
@StephanuSneed
@StephanuSneed 3 жыл бұрын
Shadow's backstory from SA2, Heroes and Shadow the hedgehog is still canon in 06. In ShtH, he works with GUN to defend against the alien invasion, and after that, he decides to work for them with his friends Rouge and Omega. Him forgiving GUN for killing Maria and deciding to collaborate with them to safeguard the world is part of his character arc, like deciding to help save the planet from the Space Colony Arc, forgiving humanity, or fighting Mephiles even if he will be betrayed in the future.
@orlandofurioso7329
@orlandofurioso7329 2 жыл бұрын
And this is the best part of Shadow's game, a great part that people ignore because of the edge that, to be fair, would be normal if you had amnesia and everyone hunting you
@jennisgurung2760
@jennisgurung2760 3 жыл бұрын
Sonic 06 is the closest thing to Adventure 3.
@TrueMachwind
@TrueMachwind 3 жыл бұрын
it basically is adventure 3
@Jill-pc2ho
@Jill-pc2ho 3 жыл бұрын
I always thought of sonic adventure 3 as sonic heroes idk why I just do
@AdamSelvig
@AdamSelvig 3 жыл бұрын
It’s actually is a reboot
@dreamcastdazia4753
@dreamcastdazia4753 3 жыл бұрын
@@Jill-pc2ho Takes place right after SA2 and no matter what anyone says the gameplay is rather similar to the speed stage aspect of the SA games. It also had this whole 3 thing going on with the logo and emblems making it feel like the third game if you put it side by side With SA1 and 2. The logo aesthetic for heroes js the same as the adventure games too. And it was the last game with the original adventure voice cast. So it feels like a natural third game. Despite what anyone says the game is essentially the speed stages with 3 characters at once with new gimmicks
@joshuanyasuluthecontentcre6231
@joshuanyasuluthecontentcre6231 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah it's true
@marcusmoore4819
@marcusmoore4819 3 жыл бұрын
Man this game has so much potential! That’s why I will always support it. The music alone proves it.
@Noway976
@Noway976 3 жыл бұрын
That’s all it will ever be, potential :/
@GodittoC
@GodittoC 3 жыл бұрын
69 likes, make a wish!
@BlueSmash_404
@BlueSmash_404 2 жыл бұрын
The music is the only good thing of the whole game. That potential existed,they killed it. And btw,the quality of the music doesn't make the game good nor potentialy good.
@pinhe4d321
@pinhe4d321 Жыл бұрын
@@BlueSmash_404 Go play some crap like unleashed or colors bruh, if the only strength you can point out is OST, it's really goofy
@blueaero3284
@blueaero3284 3 жыл бұрын
I always thought that the reason why Shadow joined G.U.N was a way of showing that he let go of his past even though they invaded the ark and killed the professor and Maria, he put that behind him, forgiving them and thought joining them along with Rouge was good place to start fresh.
@traegiggers50
@traegiggers50 3 жыл бұрын
It also helped that one of Maria’s best friends was now the leader of G.U.N.
@Nothavinit00
@Nothavinit00 3 жыл бұрын
That is the actual canon. You have to play ShTH all the way through. In Expert mode, he is an agent in training.
@gsph4816
@gsph4816 3 жыл бұрын
I rember when I was younger I absolutely LOVED this game. But I acted like I didn’t so people didn’t make fun of m 😔. But over still love this game!
@ItsNickForShort
@ItsNickForShort 3 жыл бұрын
Never be ashamed of a game you enjoy! Everyone is different and if you like 06 then you’ve got your own unique taste and there’s nothing wrong with that!
@Skye2993
@Skye2993 3 жыл бұрын
@@ItsNickForShort See this is why I love guys like you in the fandom I liked this game too it is a fun little buggy mess but if there's one thing I will give this game that it did perfectly and outstanding besides the music is Shadow's character my God they got him right in this game (no amenisa and no oh look I'm edgy) he cares for the new friends he made in Sonic Heroes and Sonic Adventure 2 his ark was truly handled well throughout these games minus (Shadow the Hedgehog) not to mention he was sort of a mentor to Silver. Man I really wish Shiro maekawa comes back to write Shadow again he wrote him in this game and SA2 not to mention one of my favorite Sonic stories Sonic and the black knight I know the storybook games have bad controls cause of the Wii but man the stories alone are worth watching on KZbin in both English and Japanese
@chrange9714
@chrange9714 3 жыл бұрын
@@ItsNickForShort Lost World is a good game, don't care what anyone says. A simple plot is not a bad plot. While I would like to see Sonic return to stories like in 06, Lost World's story was good and the Deadly Six are good villains. Especially Zavok, who is up there with Mephiles as one of the darkest Sonic villains. They can be expanded upon even more if they're brought back, especially in a story setting like 06. They shouldn't just be left to rot. No character should be. THAT'S wasting potential.
@lpfan4491
@lpfan4491 2 жыл бұрын
@@chrange9714 While I agree that Lost World is a good game and probably the best story in modern games,(Not counting japanese scripts) I have to greatly disagree. The Deadly Six only work decently as a unit, because they are very underdeveloped as individual characters. In general, the characterwriting is the weakest part of the game by far.
@chrange9714
@chrange9714 2 жыл бұрын
@@lpfan4491 I partially disagree. Some characters were a lot more weakly written than others. Imo, Zavok, Zazz, and Zik were the best written of the Six. Zazz being the least well written of the three because he's mostly just "the crazy one," but he's also established as a great and loyal warrior to Zavok. Zik is the second best because he's the actual leader of the Six passing down that position to Zavok. He took Zavok in when he was young and trained him to be apart of the Six. Zavok obviously has a lot of respect towards him. Then there's Zavok, the best because not only has he proven to be worthy enough to take Zik's place, he's very serious and dark. Zavok is fine with slowly killing a planet and every civilization on it just to get back at Eggman. One guy. He could've just fought Sonic, but he wanted to mentally and emotionally crush him before physically killing him. I agree that the other's writing in the grand scheme is pretty weak, but they're still fun characters. You're right, they're still very underdeveloped. That's mostly because Lost World was their first appearance and they haven't officially appeared since. If they were brought back and expanded upon, they could all become even better. Just look at the comics, the Six are very developed there and it's amazing.
@calistusjay60
@calistusjay60 3 жыл бұрын
Every time Elise blows out the flame, I sob. Like full on sob. No other sonic game has ever made me genuinely cry. Say what you will about the "dark age". But that was the last time Sonic truly made me care.
@stefanplays7857
@stefanplays7857 3 жыл бұрын
@@DerpaTure9503 ur still rambling geez it’s a fuken game chill out dude seriously
@babatunde352
@babatunde352 2 жыл бұрын
Bruh wait what, I frickin enjoyed it cuz I hate that they tried shipping a hedgehog and a princess who's triple the height of his😂
@calistusjay60
@calistusjay60 2 жыл бұрын
@@babatunde352 it’s not about the romance. It’s just about a character who had to be strong her entire life finally found someone she can be herself with and has to choose to forget him. It’s sad.
@MrJerkdude1
@MrJerkdude1 2 жыл бұрын
@@babatunde352 Damn, didn't know you were the type to use height as a basis to evaluate someone in a relationship.
@bunsmasterbunny
@bunsmasterbunny Жыл бұрын
@@calistusjay60 Elise is a really good character that gets hated on for stupid reasons.
@maggiesaunders9713
@maggiesaunders9713 3 жыл бұрын
Also, I actually really like sonic, shadow, and Silver’s models in this game
@kozato7748
@kozato7748 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly the models are fantastic-
@lootria
@lootria 3 жыл бұрын
same, always thought they were better than a lot of people said (aka "looks weird, weird proportions long legs aaa")
@XENOEATSSALAD
@XENOEATSSALAD 3 жыл бұрын
@@lootria the only thing I think is weird is the renders
@tuser8
@tuser8 3 жыл бұрын
I think they look great, but their actors don’t do the models credit, they weren’t made for mocap
@stefanplays7857
@stefanplays7857 3 жыл бұрын
@ELI BONHAM the model itself is good it’s just doesn’t know how to use it to it fullest
@spectre2318
@spectre2318 3 жыл бұрын
This video just came by my recommendations and, boy, was it a good watch. I used to hate Sonic 06 and what it represented and what it did to franchise back then, but recently I just wanted to start over and come with this game with an open mind. Sure it has the flaws, but one thing that was charming was the level of love and effort Sonic Team gave to this game. To be honest, I cannot find that love and care replicated since Unleashed and maybe Generations. I really wish Sonic Team just needs to look back in the Adventure games and find out what made them so special. Time will only tell when that will happen. Then again, amazing video. I can't believe this channel was under the radar. You just earned a sub!
@Lightning-ig2do
@Lightning-ig2do 3 жыл бұрын
38:40 The instrumental version of His World is freakin' amazing! If there's one thing Sonic games always get right, it's the music.
@runningoncylinders3829
@runningoncylinders3829 3 жыл бұрын
I love ambition where it was visible in this game, and I feel like its pitfalls casted a lot of doubt on the company to discourage them from retaining gameplay and tone that gained a following in the Dreamcast era. The Boost games are good too, yet it's always easy to see what seemed to end in 2006 that only really needed some good trimming and a polish.
@jay-yi9im
@jay-yi9im 3 жыл бұрын
I rather play this than forces
@chrange9714
@chrange9714 3 жыл бұрын
Who wouldn't?
@Sileak0130
@Sileak0130 3 жыл бұрын
Sonic forces is good and sonic o6 never happed
@lpfan4491
@lpfan4491 3 жыл бұрын
@@Sileak0130 forces and good. Funny
@traktor420
@traktor420 3 жыл бұрын
@@DerpaTure9503 actually you can play 06, cus unlike forces, you actually control sonic, meanwhile in forces you just hold a button and press a sometimes, your opinion isn:t objective, so just stop
@acousticslayer5883
@acousticslayer5883 3 жыл бұрын
Gnostic28 "you can move at free will" when you aren't in a scripted section, you know, 80% of the game
@espinoth9913
@espinoth9913 3 жыл бұрын
Shadow is the character who benefits most from including '06 in canon instead of considering it a reboot. Him working with G.U.N; the people who murdered Maria in the first place? It shows he's completely let go of the past, and shows he values his promise to his first and best friend over any personal grudges; he's working with a government agency that would make his mission to protect the world easier, giving him a support network and access to resources and intel that he wouldn't have otherwise. He learns in the game that using two Chaos Emeralds makes time travel possible; and doesn't even hesitate to help Sonic and everyone else use that knowledge to solve the current crisis and save the world. He could've easily tried to twist the portal to the past even further back and to a different location. But he doesn't. In previous games, his urge to go back to the ARK of the past and save Maria would have been overwhelming, but he's now far more mature. He doesn't want to derail his own promise, everyone else's friendships, risk giving Silver an even worse future, or everything else that could arise out of the potential butterfly effect of what saving Maria could cause. He's completely put aside his own desires for the sake of the world and his friends. At that point, he's the most mature character in '06, and most likely the entire franchise. And the ending of his own third of the game? Well, you know that chef's kiss meme? Yeah, that. Using the inhibitor rings, protecting Rouge and Omega as they get out of there instead of trying to fight every last clone like how modern Shadow & Omega would, not letting Mephiles' words get to him, being a biggity badass and just using his pseudo-super aura to slap aside what few clones are in his way... And that LINE! Like I said in my first point, he's only working with GUN because of the convivence it offers his mission, he'd still be completely willing to protect the world even without government support, and even with them actively hunting him down. Even if public opinion turns on him, he knows he'll always have his friends; and he won't stop protecting people just because some have started resenting him.
@SplotchTheCatThing
@SplotchTheCatThing 2 жыл бұрын
I always found the music production style they used for this game (particularly the in-game tracks-- the cinematic music is more "traditionally" orchestral) to be really interesting. It's not just as simple as having a live orchestra to back all the game tracks -- although that certainly helps -- there seem to be a lot of subtle techniques they used (and, more importantly, didn't use-- you'll see) to make all the songs in game sound like they're being performed live. I can't speak to everything they did but from my own music and production background I do have some pretty good ideas of how some of it was done. Warning, this is some technical discussion, but it might still be interesting for some people :P The emphasis was clearly on real instruments and drums -- depending on the song those real instruments were either the full orchestra or just electric guitar and bass. Sometimes the still one had the other in the background, sometimes not. Synthesizers and drum machines were still used plentifully but their tones were, outside of the few songs where electronics were the main element, kept extremely simple. One thing it almost never did was to have the focus of a composition on a mix of those elements -- saaay, for a totally definitely not-at-all-from-sonic-unleashed example, a song where the main elements were a rhythm guitar playing chords and a string section playing lead. I can only think of one level track from '06 off the top of my head that came anywhere close to doing something like that, and even in that one the bass is really the dominant instrument. This sets it apart from later games in the series that used full orchestras, where the symphonic and rock elements were always mixed much more freely. Very few audio effects were used apart from a few delay throws and the odd bit of additional reverb. Instead, it all seems to have been recorded "dry" in a concert hall emphasizing the room's ambience. What really makes this part different from the soundtracks for previous and subsequent Sonic games is that almost no compression was used at all. Stereo fields in the final recordings were kept fairly wide, which is also unusual compared to past games. One of the most interesting parts is how most of the synthesizers and drum machines seem to have been routed through amplifiers and recorded with microphones, rather than being routed directly into the sound system like you'd usually do in a live or studio setting. I would imagine that they were still largely recorded after the other musicians had finished playing, to avoid feedback (since the main reason you'd plug them into the sound system in the first place is to avoid feedback). All of this combines to make a soundtrack where even the most obviously synthetic parts sound like they're grounded in reality-- and arguably it sells the game's aesthetic better than the visuals do. (If anyone has any ideas for what else they might have done, or thinks I'm wrong about some of this, feel free to say so. It's my best guess based on how I think I would achieve a similar sound if I had access to the same resources.) TL;DR the composers and producers on the game's music took extreme care to make each of the gameplay songs sound not just cinematic, but as if it was actually being played live.
@Someguyhere111
@Someguyhere111 3 жыл бұрын
I played this game LOOOONG after it came out, and literally my impression of the game can be summed up with: "THIS is what people get so bent out of shape over?" It's like the reverse of seeing a mediocre movie that's been praised by everyone around you - it had flaws, sure, and it was clearly unpolished, but it was a still a decent - I dare say GOOD - game. Perfectly playable, any glitches you run into normally (i.e. not forcing them) are weird and funny, but not obstructive or inhibitive, and it's got a solid amount of content and replayability. I love the story, and am just sad it's never gonna get expanded on now. The gameplay isn't my prefered style of Sonic gameplay, but it has its own merits and the levels are designed well around it so even if I'd prefer the gameplay in the Adventures or in Shadow, I can't say '06's is bad. And I have no idea how the fuck people find Soleanna to be confusing, it's such an easy place to figure out. Overall, I went into expecting an unredeemable dumpster fire because, well, that's what people refer to it as, and I just got an enjoyable experience with some little nitpicks and areas of mild annoyance. The only things I outright hated were the second ball puzzle in Silver's Dusty Desert, and the Car Festival mission. It doesn't even fall into 'bad but I can appreciate what they were doing', it's just a good game that is let down by a lack of polish.
@FireFoxGaming_
@FireFoxGaming_ Жыл бұрын
YEAH SAME WITH ME!! Sonic 06 was actually the very first sonic game I had ever played as a kid. i was probably 6 or 7 at the time So I possibly played it in 2010 or 2009. I loved the game. Like honestly loved it, as a kid, I thought people genuinely like 06 but years later coming to find out it’s being hated on, I was just..so confused. Like, why? Then I saw videos on the reasons such as glitches, story writing and ect, and then it hit me. but OMG sonic 06 is tolerable compared to sonic boom and Colors ultimate!
@ccelite3782
@ccelite3782 3 жыл бұрын
11:55 You missed the oppurtunity to put in Silver's "PERFECT!"
@WanderingWaddler
@WanderingWaddler 3 жыл бұрын
These are some really well made videos dude! And I can definitely agree, 06’s OST is better than it has any right to be XD
@ItsNickForShort
@ItsNickForShort 3 жыл бұрын
It’s music is up so high in the soundtrack rankings for me only black night and unleashed compare in terms of original tunes in my eyes. Maybe adventure 1 too! THANKS FOR THE SUPPORT!
@ccelite3782
@ccelite3782 3 жыл бұрын
@@ItsNickForShort Adventure 2 had decent tracks too, especially Live and Learn and Escape From The City
@gooolixx
@gooolixx 3 жыл бұрын
definitely!
@mesousagaby740
@mesousagaby740 3 жыл бұрын
In hindsight, one thing Sonic '06 does right is that everyone actually does something in this game. You actually get to play as the characters, they're actually important, they matter unlike, say, in Sonic Forces, where it SEEMS like a game where everyone would matter, but instead you get two Sonics and a random OC. Everyone else? NOPE. Ditto to Sonic Boom at least giving characters other than Sonic something to do.
@CAVFIFTEEN
@CAVFIFTEEN 3 жыл бұрын
My favorite line from Sonic is “it was never about chivalry for me. I just gotta do what I gotta do, that’s all” This was always so impactful to me cause he’s saying he doesn’t care about any code. He just wants to do the right thing. Even if (as it almost did at that moment) it killed him. That is the mark of a true hero imho. Unfortunately 06 got such bad reception and Sonic Team and Sega learned all the wrong lessons from it. I’m sorry but I’d rather 10 more of these and 10 More years of “the dark age” over even one more year of “the meta era”. Colors was fine enough but the problems showed through in that game too. From 2013 with lost world it was just down hill from there. Things look like they’ll be getting better now though. We can finally say goodbye to Pontac and Graff and I’m confident that Prime and the game series moving forward will be finally getting back on track with the franchise. Time to stop being so scared of 06 and move on. Great work dude, earned a sub from me. Keep it up mate!
@chillax7345
@chillax7345 3 жыл бұрын
This is great content man you definitely deserve more subscribers like at the very least 1K and also I agree with all your points especially with Shadow. And also your Top 3 Characters are literally Sonic, Shadow, and Silver!!! The definitive trio back then especially in Sonic 06 since Sonic represents the present, Shadow the past, and Silver the future and now when people think of a trio they think of Team Sonic, or Team Dark but for me the original three the Trinity are Sonic, Shadow, and Silver!!! And well I'm hooked so I'm subscribing cant wait for future content and now it's time to watch your back catalogue of videos!!!
@ItsNickForShort
@ItsNickForShort 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!! Right now I’ve been exclusively sonic but I’m going to branch out into other comics and games but I can say for sue sonic ain’t leaving the channel anytime soon!
@chillax7345
@chillax7345 3 жыл бұрын
@@ItsNickForShort I am still going to watch your videos it doesn't always have to be Sonic I watch KZbinrs who make a lot of Sonic content and sometimes branch out to other topics and thank you for replying I cant wait for the next video!!!
@GaeaRage0798
@GaeaRage0798 2 жыл бұрын
I never thought of this game as a reboot at all, because I can perfectly see it happening after the Adventure duology, Sonic Heroes, the Advanced Trilogy, and Sonic Battle. In fact, it also serves as a logical follow up to the ending of Shadow the Hedgehog. Also the character interactions in the game imply that these characters already had history together.
@trythelight8319
@trythelight8319 3 жыл бұрын
“Just smile.” Honestly, I dabbled a little bit with SA1 as I found a Dreamcast during a family vacation in 2000-something. It was pretty fun to play! But I remember watching Sonic’s Story as a compilation somewhere on KZbin. It made me biased towards his character portrayal, how his compassion and friendliness worked alongside his do-good-ism and bad-egg kicking. I didn’t get any of the time travel stuff back then, but I didn’t need to. I wasn’t playing the game when solely seeing the videos; I was only along for the ride. And I think that’s what Sega wanted for the kids playing the game... if only it wasn’t rushed.
@sevenchaos7156
@sevenchaos7156 3 жыл бұрын
Some part of me would argue that Sonic was out of character but 06 should not get the hate it gets. Great vid bro :)
@lpfan4491
@lpfan4491 3 жыл бұрын
@@DerpaTure9503 It literally gets called the worst game of all time and the most broken game of all time. And neither of those are true.
@Commenter717
@Commenter717 3 жыл бұрын
@@lpfan4491 You mean it's rightfully called one of the worst games of all time. Sonic fans are downright pathetic, any other franchise having a game in this state would have its community consider it unacceptable.
@lpfan4491
@lpfan4491 3 жыл бұрын
@@Commenter717 1: I never said that, read please. 2: The soniccommunity at large DID react like that, so bite yourself. 3: It literally is not the worst game or the most broken game, even if it is one of them. That is what I said and it is true. Unless you want to argue stuff like Superman64 is less trash and Pokemon Gen0 is not stupidly bad programmingwise. At least 06 has something. 4: Most people who like 06 like the ideas it brings forth more than the broken execution. That is a completely reasonable response, you nut. I didn't know people hate the entire Fallout-series(example) because the devs made a few pieces of crap along the way.
@stefanplays7857
@stefanplays7857 3 жыл бұрын
@@lpfan4491 I agree people tend to see it broken state it’s the worst game in the world because they don’t see it to often so by that logic cyberpunk77 would be the worst game right,I fricking hate these people that spout this shet
@burlapjack1464
@burlapjack1464 2 жыл бұрын
@@Commenter717 no its not even close to the worst games of all time lmao
@Zhavyne
@Zhavyne 3 жыл бұрын
One thing I liked about Mephiles looking like and being connected to Shadow was that, in a raw sense, Mephiles could totally be what Shadow could have become if he let himself be hardened against humanity, and having the potential to become the destruction of the world, like some of the non-canon endings in Shadow's game, and the "30 Years Later" arc in the Archie comics. _Also, the time travel in the game was serviceable; it's just one of those cases where you have to just go along with the ride for the narrative. I think the one series that did time travel the best, and is my favorite series in general, has to be Legacy of Kain - now THAT is how you do time travel._ *Also*, are you playing this on Xenia? I noticed the graphical glitches at around 31mins and remember that happening in that emulator XD I have and completed the game on the PS3, but played it on Xenia to try out mods like Legacy of Solaris. Anyway, always nice to find someone else that enjoys this game; definitely one of my favorite in the series to replay (I personally enjoyed Silver's gameplay), despite its issues; it was the last in the series that I truly cared about and was sad that they never revisited the Adventure formula or the tone.
@squidguy1420
@squidguy1420 3 жыл бұрын
13:15 Actually the reason why they can remember Silver is because after the events of 06 got erased, the characters met him in Sonic Rivals which is where the current Silver originates from.
@ItsNickForShort
@ItsNickForShort 3 жыл бұрын
Ahh I’ve never played the rivals games, but the meeting explanation mentioned the erased timeline or was it just another meeting but NO ONE remembers 06?
@squidguy1420
@squidguy1420 3 жыл бұрын
@@ItsNickForShort It was just another meeting, they don't even mention the erased timeline, Silver was looking for Eggman Nega and stumbled upon Sonic which they had their first introduction.
@squidguy1420
@squidguy1420 3 жыл бұрын
@@ItsNickForShort You can watch the cutscenes for Sonic Rivals if you want, each character story has about 5-10 minutes worth.
@ROT695
@ROT695 3 жыл бұрын
@@squidguy1420 Then I’m the sequel he ends up somehow working with Espio haha
@Llmonty_
@Llmonty_ 3 жыл бұрын
@@ItsNickForShort blaze calls crisis city familiar in generations
@sour_gamer_1
@sour_gamer_1 3 жыл бұрын
for how much critics and people rag on sonic 06 there are a lot of people who do like it...
@StephanuSneed
@StephanuSneed 3 жыл бұрын
I can't speak for everyone, but I can try to explain why suddenly more and more 06 apologists are coming out. Sonic 06 is a bad game. It was rushed, came out full of bugs, and before fixing games with patches after launch became a common thing. But it had ambition. It tried to make a decent game, but to make THE sonic game of the new generation. It tried to use the adventure formula, several playable characters, a serious storyline, a new main character, hub worlds to try and make Soleanna feel like a real place, bigger stakes with Solaris as the final boss... And sadly, it failed. Now, we live in the post 06 world, and we have seen what it leads to. I've seen a lot of people praise Unleashed, Colors and Generations, only to criticize Sonic Forces and wonder why after such "quality", this last game is so mediocre and bland. And I don't get it. Forces is the logical endpoint of the boost games. A mediocre game relying on stupid gimmicks to even engender interest. No ambition, no desire to bring the franchise into a new era, the bait of a more "serious" story only to be one of the worse yet. Since Unleashed, we have seen the storylines become blander and blander, or even virtually non-existent (Generations). We have seen fewer and fewer characters interact with Sonic, let alone the plot, let alone be playable. The werehog was a nice try to mix things up, but after it, the only new playable characters have been classic sonic (how new and original!), the avatar (sonic with a gun, and a shitty customizable gimmick), and shadow in a DLC (sonic with a paint job). Every new character has been an embarrassment: Chip (altho I'll admit it had a decent end I guess), the Deadly Six, and Infinite. Compare them to actual decent characters: Tails (Sonic 2), Knuckles (Sonic 3), Tikal and Chaos (SA1), Shadow (SA2), the Chaotix (Heroes, where they were reintroduced and fleshed out), and Silver (06). Now on the gameplay. Boost games have been becoming lazier and lazier, and as i said before, Forces is the logical endpoint of that. Sonic has never been (mechanically at least) a game only about speed. It's a platform game that allows you to go fast if you know what you are doing, with some set pieces that force you to go at high speed and maintain it. Sonic Team understood that up until 06. After that, the games have been turning into lane runners akin to Temple run and other mobile games, or (since Colors) into 2D games, which shouldn't be in mainline 3d Sonic games. Both of these styles of design are so prevalent because designing 3d maps to navigate while being able to go fast is hard, and Sonic Team doesn't any of it. Instead, they just give you 3 lanes to run in and (maybe) some obstacles, or turn the game into 2d stages. Sonic Generations was even worse: the game was already half 2d because of the nostalgia gimmick, but then modern Sonic is also half 2d because of what I said before. That makes SG, a mainline 3d sonic game, a game where 3/4 of its gameplay is 2d. And that's not all. No new stages, no story. No ambition at all from the developers. And that's how we got Forces. The community or fanbase or however you want to call it didn't lower the bar. They just threw it into the ground, and when Forces came out they wondered "What happened?". That's why, after 15 years of stagnation of mechanics, shitty plots, flanderization of characters, decaying level design philosophies, and cutting out of everything that could be a risk (extra characters that aren't literally a slightly different version of Sonic), some people are coming back to 06 and appreciating what it tried to do but failed. Sonic 06 did fail, but not because Sonic Team (back then) were hacks. They were working with new hardware, their team was split in 2 to make a Wii game at the same time, and they weren't given more time. The game HAD to come out for Christmas of 2006. No one will deny the game came out unfinished. But at least it had ambition and soul, and you can tell the devs tried to do what they could up until the last second. Forces and 06 are fascinating to compare because they are both failures for completely different reasons. 06 had really high expectations. It was expected to be the next adventure for a brand new generation of consoles. Forces had barely any, people only expected it to not be a broken mess. Forces spent more time in development, didn't have to make any big technical leaps like 06, and had a far less problematic development, and it still came out as a mediocre 2-3 hour-long game, overshadowed by what is essentially a fangame. And that's why people are starting to admit or realize that 06 while still a mess, deserves more than what it got. Also, Sonic 06 has the best music.
@hydrochloric007
@hydrochloric007 3 жыл бұрын
Don't trust the critics with any sonic game. IGN called Sonic Unleashed "A big piece of garbage" while giving it a 4.5/10 IGN gave Sonic Forces a 6.9/10 and called it "ok"
@jdawson7877
@jdawson7877 3 жыл бұрын
@@hydrochloric007 IGN is the definition of garbage a pile of poop is worth more than them
@TimDespairBear11
@TimDespairBear11 3 жыл бұрын
@@StephanuSneed I agree with your comment 100%. I don’t necessarily hate the boost games but they’re so fucking lazy compared to sonic 06. 06 feels LESS rushed to me than games like forces and generations. Don’t even get me started on forces. The levels literally last ONE MINUTE. I don’t know how that’s acceptable at all.
@jdawson7877
@jdawson7877 3 жыл бұрын
@@TimDespairBear11 yeah the boost formula started off great with unleashed but as it went on its just kept getting worse colors boost gameplay was a HUGE stepback from unleashed it focus was less on speed and more on blocky platforming and generations was much better not as great as unleashed but its pretty close and then there's forces...do i even need to say it
@demaunix2723
@demaunix2723 3 жыл бұрын
32:27 I SEE IT! I SEE IT NOW! IT'S ALWAYS BEEN INSIDE OF MEEEEEEE!
@maggiesaunders9713
@maggiesaunders9713 3 жыл бұрын
I love it too!! Amazing concepts and OST! I grew up playing this game. It took me 3 years to finish all the mach sections and when I did it was so rewarding! I could never get that enjoyment out of an easy “polished” game like Forces
@ianshere2465
@ianshere2465 3 жыл бұрын
I’m just glad people can respect your opinion. I’m looking at the like to dislike ratio and it seems not many people are pissed off
@sonc07
@sonc07 3 жыл бұрын
i know for sure gnostic is one of the dislikes ;)
@Sonic171K
@Sonic171K 3 жыл бұрын
Guilty pleasure game.
@acousticslayer5883
@acousticslayer5883 3 жыл бұрын
This game is more fun than forces... to me at least
@ItsNickForShort
@ItsNickForShort 3 жыл бұрын
Forces practically plays itself I relate completely
@acousticslayer5883
@acousticslayer5883 3 жыл бұрын
Gnostic28 you do know that fun is subjective, right? I enjoyed 06 and don't think the game is all that bad, that's my opinion.
@lpfan4491
@lpfan4491 3 жыл бұрын
@@DerpaTure9503 Did you literally just come to this video to crap on everyone?
@stefanplays7857
@stefanplays7857 3 жыл бұрын
@@lpfan4491 yes he did
@WaterKirby1994
@WaterKirby1994 2 жыл бұрын
This is the only game that Shadow is an agent for GUN for some reason. Team Dark not appearing in Unleashed & the entire 2010s Decade caused all the progress from 06 for Shadow to be abandoned with the exception of Sonic Chronicles which was made noncanon because of Ken Penders. As for Silver it should be noted that he's separated from Sonic & Shadow by time (as well as the backlash of 06) which makes him more of a 4th Hedgehog in a series that started only valuing Sonic himself. Blaze had a much more impactful role in the Rush Games that made her every bit Sonic's equal to where it seems more likely that Silver would be her sidekick.
@RayalWorldConz
@RayalWorldConz 3 жыл бұрын
Sonic 06 just needs a remake man. I love this game even though I haven’t played it, the game story wise?? Super good.
@lpfan4491
@lpfan4491 3 жыл бұрын
@@DerpaTure9503 Yeah, Sonic 2 where you get randomly screwed over by random nonsense you could not predict and where the final boss is basically unbeatable unless one knows how to beat it.
@lpfan4491
@lpfan4491 3 жыл бұрын
@@DerpaTure9503 It is multiple zones, just that one zone is especially garbo. And "just do this" is not an excuse when the bad design comes from it not being obvious what to do. Every other boss made it clear how to beat it.
@RayalWorldConz
@RayalWorldConz 3 жыл бұрын
@@DerpaTure9503 I didn't mean to say story wise.
@LAZY-RUBY
@LAZY-RUBY 3 жыл бұрын
If there's one thing I've learned getting older, it's that even "bad" things have artistic merit. I liked this game well enough as a kid and even today I would take something that failed but clearly had a lot of heart than something that functions but is otherwise boring (i.e. Forces).
@bakedbeans5494
@bakedbeans5494 2 жыл бұрын
🤡
@ShadowDante7
@ShadowDante7 3 жыл бұрын
I love Sonic 06 too, it’s one of my favourite Sonic games and games in general. I feel like Sonic 06 actually has more pros than cons.
@genevieve2845
@genevieve2845 Жыл бұрын
I can't believe that you managed to put everything I loved about this game into words. Something I couldn't figure out for myself for a long time. As a sonic 06 fan, I am so so grateful for watching this video.
@noahmations1425
@noahmations1425 3 жыл бұрын
Same...
@TimDespairBear11
@TimDespairBear11 3 жыл бұрын
To be 100% real I always loved sonic 06 and I seriously think people exaggerate how bad the game is. It’s not even that glitchy besides the ones you do on purpose. It’s some weird band wagon of people who think it’s cool to say sonic 06 sucks without even giving the game a chance. And what’s fucked up is, sega will never make another adventure styled sonic game because of all the people who hated 06.
@stefanplays7857
@stefanplays7857 3 жыл бұрын
Don’t mind him he’s been trying to shet on everyone that talks about 06 positively
@cerebralmalsey
@cerebralmalsey 3 жыл бұрын
Sometimes I forget that Sonic, Shadow, and Silver are teenagers.
@lpfan4491
@lpfan4491 3 жыл бұрын
@@DerpaTure9503 Just that at least 49 years of those 50 were spent in cryostasis where Shadow wouldn't change. So he is actually the youngest of the three if we go by actual time he experienced.
@stefanplays7857
@stefanplays7857 2 жыл бұрын
@@lpfan4491 I’m pretty sure sure shadow doesn’t age I’m probably going to search to be sure
@captainkid-100
@captainkid-100 3 жыл бұрын
I love Sonic 06 as well and for the first time I am not afraid to admit it. Thank you.
@classclown6ya
@classclown6ya 2 жыл бұрын
Hate it or love it, we can all agree. We will never get another sonic 06. A final fantasy-sonic crossover visually. A story this serious and dark and a vibe like this. Never again
@dinotastic9235
@dinotastic9235 3 жыл бұрын
i had the exact same experience! i was expecting to hate it but then i ended up streaming it and loving it
@SSJasonX
@SSJasonX 3 жыл бұрын
I disagree, Sonic's character feels sort of wooden in 06 and him not being the least bit curious of why Sliver is suddenly on good terms with him is strange.
@melon6444
@melon6444 3 жыл бұрын
I would disagree with the Silver bit. Sonic is easygoing and carefree. In SA1 Chaos had been trying to kill Sonic the entire game, and while they did fight, Sonic never seemed to have any animosity or grudge against him. In SA2, Sonic and Shadow had a petty rivalry for the entire game that culminated in them admittedly growing a mutual respect for each other, but still having an all out fight on the ARK, with Shadow outright intending to kill him. Despite this, Sonic doesn't really question it much when Shadow has a change of heart. Even in Heroes, after defeating Metal, Sonic is relatively friendly and chill about it. Sonic just accepting that something caused Silver to be on their side now isn't out of character, at least not for the portrayal of the character at the time.
@rickyrackey7930
@rickyrackey7930 Жыл бұрын
That opening scene where Sonic takes down all the Swatbots and saves Elise never fails to give me chills.
@CheddarVG
@CheddarVG 2 жыл бұрын
This game is the perfect example of really fun glitches, and is in fact one of my favorite Sonic games. And quite frankly, the fact that it's unfinished makes it even better.
@Eldarin
@Eldarin 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video! This game was the whole reason I sold my Gamecube copies of SA1, Gems collection, Heroes, SA2, and Shadow (i still am angered at my 5 year old self about that) back in 2005 for an Xbox 360. I personally think this game has the best if not some of the best level design, in the franchise, especially for the adventure era. People forget that because of its negative reception, unfortunately. Very excited to replay this soon enough, also if you haven't checked it out....P-06 is a quite sexy remaster of 06, highly recommend it.
@RotcodFox
@RotcodFox 3 жыл бұрын
26:30 I completely agree with this, time-travel already causes tons of paradoxes, so it's never gonna be perfect in a story
@ashketchum6585
@ashketchum6585 3 жыл бұрын
Well, actually Shadow joined GUN because he figured why not if they provide him with extra support to do what he already does, or something like that. I forgot, but the complete explanation is in the comic somewhere, when Rouge asks him why.
@ItsNickForShort
@ItsNickForShort 3 жыл бұрын
I haven’t looked into tie in comics for explanation but I wouldn’t be surprised if that was the 06 canon universe but it’s all up for interpretation in my eyes cause sometimes it’s better using og continuity for me. Thanks for the comment!
@christianwelch4206
@christianwelch4206 3 жыл бұрын
I assumed it was because he considered it the best way to earn their trust. Just because he gets along with Rouge and the Commander doesn't mean they *_all_* like him. Remember, he was manipulated into trying to destroy the world not once, but *_twice._* Their fear of him is totally understandable. Perhaps he thought they'd be more comfortable with him running around if they knew where he was and what he was doing at all times.
@ashketchum6585
@ashketchum6585 3 жыл бұрын
@@ItsNickForShort How did I not see this until now? Sorry! I don't see the comics as cannon but they are still the same characters with the same motives and back stories, so the explanation is cannon.
@Dansam04
@Dansam04 3 жыл бұрын
I think they referenced this in Shadow the Hedgehog’s expert mode. Everyone there said that he was doing some sort of training, and the only conclusion I got from it was Shadow training so he could join GUN. Proof: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qZCUmmugjcuYec0
@ashketchum6585
@ashketchum6585 3 жыл бұрын
@@Dansam04 that too, I guess
@galaaxcy
@galaaxcy 3 жыл бұрын
Nice vids dude, you deserve way more subs
@hanezutchins2786
@hanezutchins2786 3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you said Silver was one of your favorite characters. Mine too, along with Tails and Vector
@randomfox12245
@randomfox12245 3 жыл бұрын
I just want to say first that I appreciate you went through this video WITHOUT needlessly shitting on any of the other Sonic games. I am seeing that a lot with these "[Sonic game that people malign] was actually good" videos that people are making now. And it just makes it impossible to take the praise seriously. "People say suchandsuch Sonic game sucks, but I'm going to prove it doesn't suck and that their complaints are wrong!.... by saying this OTHER Sonic game sucks and complaining about it the same way people complain about this one." It's a weird, dumb trend, and you managed to make a video lifting Sonic 06 up without putting some other Sonic game down, so good job with that. I also agree with all your praise. I would add that something I love about Sonic's story is he never learns ANYTHING about the wider conflict with Iblis and Mephalis. To him, the story of Soleana was just saving a princess from typical Eggman shenanigans. And yet his influence helps Shadow and Silver solve their own conflicts which bring about the savior of the world and timeline. I just love The Man Who Knew Too Little style protagonists like that, Evil Within had vibes of that too. My personal view about Sonic 06 was that it WAS an alternate universe/timeline considering its reboot origins. But then Generations MADE it part of the Prime timeline, because the Time Eater was a 5th dimensional entity that dragged it into alignment with the normal timeline. Like taking two rivers running parallel, and diverting the land so they combined together. (If you know Elder Scrolls lore, basically Generations was a The Warp In The West style dragonbreak for the Sonic universe?) Shadow becoming an Agent for GUN always made sense to me after Shadow the Hedgehogs events. The commander of GUN was someone who was close to and loved Maria, just like Shadow. Shadow blamed GUN for Maria's death, the commander blamed Shadow for her death. When they both came to the truth of what happened, they managed to put aside their blame and grief and move on. So it always figured to me that the Commander would WANT Shadow to join him in GUN, and Shadow would want to become part of the organization to put his skills to use protecting the planet, ect. Shadow is definitely the best part of this game too. I love imagining Shadow having to do taxes since he's an employed government worker as a GUN agent =P (not sure how sonic twitter supposedly makes him an edgy meme when in that same clip he talks about opening a cat orphanage and shit like that) Also they don't need an explanation of why the cast "remember" Silver because they met him in Sonic Rivals btw. He's got a really fun characterization in Team Sonic Racing that I hope they stick with for him. I don't think he needs to be "explained" for why he's around. Rivals establishes they just Have Time Travel in the future, so he can just show up whenever for whatever reason. He's basically a combination of Future Trunks and Cable in terms of story functionality. He definitely deserves his own game. Maybe a child friendly version of Psi-Ops the Mindgate Conspiracy or something. Overall I definitely think this game gets a bad rap, and it's not nearly as bad as people say it is. Like, it's bad. but it's not nearly as bad as people say. I get to say it's bad, because I've fucking beaten it and even S ranked most of the levels. Some chucklefuck lets player who spent his entire 2 hours of playtime for some meme video, with the controlled shoved down their pants during the entire playtime, doesn't get to tell me this game is bad, and I'm sick of hearing this game constantly being used as a punching bag when there's COUNTLESS games that are far far worse. In an industry where Fallout 76 and Cyberpunk 2077 exist, people are officially not allowed to act like this game is somehow special in deserving the reputation it gets. Like every Sonic game it has more to love than to hate, and even if I get annoyed at the form it takes, I am glad to see a new wave of people voicing their appreciation for this game. (but no seriously, stop saying Sonic Forces is worse than 06 cuz "at least Sonic 06 had heart" or whatever, that shit doesn't help your case you're literally just doing to some other sonic game the same thing people do to YOUR game of choice and putting some other game down isn't how you lift another game up stop it)
@thefurry7165
@thefurry7165 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to finally see somebody calling out the hypocrisy of most of the fandom when they use "other game is worse" as their main argument for defending a not so good game. Like, dude it's totally valid to like and enjoy a game that's not so good, that's cool, but you don't have to say that "this game is actually good because I like it and because other bad game is worse and I don't like it"
@MrBryanvarela
@MrBryanvarela 2 жыл бұрын
Man you gotta admit that Cutscenes are amazing
@chrange9714
@chrange9714 3 жыл бұрын
I like Sonic 06 too. Honestly, the only things bad about this game is that it's very glitchy and Elise kisses Sonic.
@bunsmasterbunny
@bunsmasterbunny Жыл бұрын
There’s nothing wrong with the kiss.
@chrange9714
@chrange9714 Жыл бұрын
@@bunsmasterbunny Yeah there is, twas weird
@melon6444
@melon6444 3 жыл бұрын
Personally, I think Shadow working for GUN makes sense, even despite what GUN did to Maria. Maria didn't hold any grudges, nor did she want Shadow to hold any grudges, and Shadow holds Maria's wishes above all else. Yes GUN did Shadow wrong, but having close connections to GUN gives him easier access to fulfilling Maria's wishes. I think it's 100% in character for Shadow to put his grudge aside for Maria.
@hazukiwarrior9218
@hazukiwarrior9218 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty much everything that you have been saying in this video... I have been feeling towards this game recently. Growing up, I used to have a love/hate relationship, with Sonic 06. It was the first game, that I have ever played, to cause me such legitimate anger while trying to get through it. I haven't touched the game, in such time, until the beginning of this year, 2021. Well, I still can't fully believe this, but playing the game again, it's as if all those past feelings that I had for it, have been flown out the window. And my current feelings for this game, are pretty much 100% in sync with yours. It's not my favorite Sonic game, but it does have a lot to love about it. And, it has surprisingly aged pretty darn well. Thanks again, for making this video.
@NovikNova
@NovikNova 3 ай бұрын
13:15 Dude, he's used in Sonic Rivals. That's how Sonic and Shadow meet Silver without the events of the game being erased.
@RealHyperHedgehog
@RealHyperHedgehog 2 жыл бұрын
I love this game too.
@ryujinpopo5616
@ryujinpopo5616 3 жыл бұрын
Bro this is an amazing video all my opinions of this game are voiced and it’s amazing to know there are others that feel the same as me and I love this game it positive outweigh the negative drastically for me and I love everything about it it was my first sonic game and it’s still to this day my favourite sonic game
@justmyopinion1797
@justmyopinion1797 3 жыл бұрын
6:58 If I remember correctly, Rouge actually was an agent for the president first in Sonic Adventure 2, then worked for the government in Sonic Battle, and had just become an agent in Sonic 06, but I could be wrong. 7:05 The canonicity of a lot of things in Shadow the Hedgehog are questionable, but some things like the Shadow androids seem to be canon due to the dialogue in the Devil Doom (Final Doom?) boss fight and other things, insinuating that the canon route leading up to the final ending is a mix of a few or all of the paths in Shadow the Hedgehog. In the semi-hero paths, Shadow meets the G.U.N. commander who also loved Maria a lot, so they have common ground there. The G.U.N. commander believed Shadow was responsible for everyone's deaths aboard the arc and forgave Shadow, as Shadow didn't even remember doing so, and if the commander was right and Shadow was responsible for their deaths and was a danger to humanity, then Shadow would find the commander once again and respectfully accept his fate. In the semi-hero hero ending, Black Doom tells Shadow that their deaths were Shadow's fault and he was a monster, so Shadow defeats Black Doom and walks off in a deep depression (and the situation and the credits music for that ending also imply he may or may not have been going off to have his life taken away from him by the G.U.N. commander.) But I don't think the G.U.N. commander would have killed him. I think he would have taken pity on Shadow for being a depressed amnesiac and thought Shadow might not be all that bad from how he handled both interactions. Anyway, in the expert mode of Shadow the Hedgehog, the president talks to Shadow almost like a friend, but more importantly, the G.U.N. commander radios in and talks to Shadow as well, saying, "Shadow, do you read me? First, I... I want to... apologize, for the other day... Actually, I just became a grandfather last week, and I was thinking of maybe having you over. I know that training is tough... but try and do your best." But again, the canonicity of this is questionable, but I think everything involving the G.U.N. commander is relatively canon or has a modified version of it canon due to Shadow working for G.U.N. in the exact next game. It just makes sense. Anyway, I hope that clears it up a little bit, but I apologize for my rambling. I really liked your video, thanks for listening, and have a nice day.
@heftyrumble
@heftyrumble 3 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU! A lot of people who play Sonic Adventure 2 are confused and keep on saying that Rouge works for G.U.N. during the game's events, but that can't be the case. If she was a GUN agent in SA2, then GUN would've recognized Rouge when she was trying to get the Chaos Emeralds.
@justmyopinion1797
@justmyopinion1797 3 жыл бұрын
@@heftyrumble Yep.
@lpfan4491
@lpfan4491 3 жыл бұрын
It is people literally just being dumb. The president wanting information that GUN has already makes clear that they are not working with him in that game despite technically being supposed to be in the same system. Only in shadow did they join forces. About rouge, she started working for GUN around the time of Shadow too, so maybe they hired her because of her prior history.(Afterall, there is no way they know she was part of blowing up prison island, because only a few people saw her on a very busy day and everyone was blown up a few minutes later)
@justmyopinion1797
@justmyopinion1797 3 жыл бұрын
@@lpfan4491 It's less of dumb, more so that they didn't notice small details. But I digress. I thought so, thanks for helping clear that up.
@lpfan4491
@lpfan4491 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I was probably overly harsh. I am just a bit frustrated with how people think they are going to call the president asap about an emeraldthief that was already contained, while everyone else is also on the loose attacking robots and storming the base.
@likeahorse
@likeahorse Жыл бұрын
yeah i fully dislike the "story is too melodramatic and tried too hard to be epic" when that's exactly what sa2 does. it taking itself seriously is what *makes* the story fun for me
@hudsboy1049
@hudsboy1049 3 жыл бұрын
Anyone else realize seeing people starting to like Sonic 06?
@GrinnyVT
@GrinnyVT 2 жыл бұрын
13:20 "Like Shonic and Shadow"
@ItsNickForShort
@ItsNickForShort 2 жыл бұрын
You don’t gotta do me like that😭
@LouiSwagula
@LouiSwagula 2 жыл бұрын
From what I’ve seen Silvers gameplay style shines a lot more during speedruns where it basically becomes Breath of the Wild and you’re just finding creative ways to launch yourself into the sky
@s3studios597
@s3studios597 3 жыл бұрын
One thing I've noticed about time travel plots is that the ones that only work in one direction seem to be much better received. Stuff like Madoka, Steins Gate, Re:Zero, One Piece, and I think Groundhog Day all have time travel, but it only allows for going backward or forward in time. All of these series are loved, and I've never seen anyone complain about the use of time travel.
@theidiots7675
@theidiots7675 Жыл бұрын
I remember beating the game and feeling so special that I was in the 1.6% of people who have beaten the game, then wondering what to do with my life. Then I picked up Unleashed. Still playing to this day. (Not because I haven't finished it, but because it's so fun I can't stop)
@littlestudioplanet7568
@littlestudioplanet7568 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Nick, recently rewatched this video. As someone who has always appreciated the positives of Sonic 06, I'm glad to see you and others take the time to share and explain your own positivity towards the game, in spite of its negative reception and status as the biggest punching bag in the franchise. With that said, I also wanted to say that I've really enjoyed your channel and look forward to future content. And speaking as Sonic fan, I'd also like to see you talk about other franchises you may be interested in. By the way, I've recently been playing Secret Rings, and I'm actually having a lot of fun with it, in spite of its flaws. Even if you don't like them, I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts on the Storybook Series. They had an interesting formula and unique worlds and stories in the franchise, and it's a shame that we may never get another game in that style. I would've loved to see Sonic in the Wild West or in Alice in Wonderland. Or heck, Frankenstein.
@fikridroid
@fikridroid 7 ай бұрын
Same, I myself look forward to Storybook games that take place within Norse mythology or the Three Kingdoms period of China haha
@KoKoYoung
@KoKoYoung 2 жыл бұрын
20:32 I have a tattoo of this quote on my arm. My favorite quote from Sonic franchise.
@Titanxzero1
@Titanxzero1 3 жыл бұрын
Have you seen "J's Reviews" of Sonic 06? I think you two have some pretty decent points. Sucks Blaze don't get much moments in this, at least she better treatment in the Rush games.
@monosurgeedar
@monosurgeedar 3 жыл бұрын
Where can I find the source of that thumbnail
@Hynotama
@Hynotama 2 жыл бұрын
The characters as portrayed in this game are simply likable. Sonic isn't an annoying chatter box that keeps regurgitating bad, kindergarten level puns, Knuckles isn't an idiot, Tails isn't a coward, Shadow and Omega aren't edgelords, Rouge isn't a backstabbing b**ch. Even Eggman, as bad as his design is, is NOT a total joke of an antagonist. You're not inclined to ignore him to focus on a clearly more threatening villain. He's not "baldy nosehair". He's a real threat that forces you to split your attention between Mephiles, Iblis and himself. Forces, though flawed, has a vastly better attempt at story telling than anything Pontac and Graff ever attempted. In Forces, Eggman can't even compete with one extra villain, which is supposedly his creation. In Sonic 06, Eggman competes with not one, but TWO villains, born of a God. I keep hearing people get annoyed at the phrase "Sonic 06 at least tried" and telling me that it doesn't make the game any better. Yes, actually it does. Likeable characters and real stakes can pull you through a bad game by tickling your curiosity. You know what Sonic Colors did? It annoyed me from start to finish, it's the only game where I just skipped the cutscenes and I had to force myself to go through those horrid levels to justify the money I spent on that trash fire. So Sonic Colors has bad levels that make the polished gameplay utterly useless, horrid controls that should exist on modern consoles and a story that not only bored me to tears, but actively annoyed me and made me feel like I was having my time wasted. Notice that I'm not talking about issues specific to the "Ultimate" version, aside from the controls.
@Alexis-yc2ti
@Alexis-yc2ti 2 жыл бұрын
If you do like sonic 06 well you can play the fanmade pc version sonic 06 called p-06!
@jillevers1432
@jillevers1432 11 ай бұрын
I am glad that there is more than me who love this game as well. It's because of this game that I got into the franchise more, outside of Sonic X that is. You made great points about your love for the game especially when you called it a serious story, which makes sense now because with Frontiers changing the characteristics of their characters then, makes me wonder why everyone else would hate a serious game like this. As for Sonic's story, I love that about this game. It may be weak to you, or others can say other things, but I love how heroic, selfless, devoted, loyal, and a bit charming he was. People can call out "it stupid, he shouldn't have to rescue her" or something, but he's the HERO. He has a big enough heart to know if someone is in trouble, "someone has to help." (From Big Hero 6) Don't know if you see a Disney Show "The Legend of Tarzan," basically if you know Disney's Tarzan, it follows Tarzan, his love Jane, and all their friends and family's adventures after, but one of my favorite episodes is one called "City of Opar." It kind of follows a Jane plot where she is insecure about how Tarzan always saves her and how she can't hardly match his jungle exterior. But Tarzan and friends soon become trapped, and it was up to Jane, and thought of a plan without having jungle traits, just smarts and outwits. At the end, Tarzan is grateful and calls out "Jane is the best." It shouldn't matter how tiring or repeating a hero saves a loved one, for when you know someone is rare and loves someone as crazy as you, you would do anything for them. Plus, if jungle strength isn't what they are attracted to, maybe someone likes you for your clever mind and kind heart, those kinds of strength matter the most. Above all, I love Sonic and Elise's relationship, even done romantically. Why not have a kiss be a strong key to resurrect the dead? Unorthodox, but I mean it's sweet; love conquers all you know. I believe that to be the emeralds power. And if anyone points out "he's a hedgehog and she's a human," then why does Disney promote human Belle with her cursed prince as an animal type? Bottom line, very happy with your review
@SwampLad1019
@SwampLad1019 3 жыл бұрын
If polished and a better story with the sonic and silver parts, this game could have been the greatest sonic game of all time. And while I’m here Ima do a short explanation of shadow, he joins gun because he forgives and accepts his past, shadow knows he can’t do anything about the past but he understands he can do good for the future. Every if the whole world is against him
@nazo7090
@nazo7090 3 жыл бұрын
I agree with everything u said in this video and also sonic unleashed is my fav sonic game too
@traegiggers50
@traegiggers50 3 жыл бұрын
Currently making a sequel story based on 06. And have a timeline that could explain a lot of the timeline aspects that this game opens up too. Would love to share, on the main point though... But this was a amazing watch and a amazing game for me, even though glitches were and underdeveloped gameplay was pretty bad.
@shadowsansvii8715
@shadowsansvii8715 3 жыл бұрын
I wasn’t expecting to agree with you. But I do and your content is good so you’ve earned yourself a new subscriber.
@khahimsipple7722
@khahimsipple7722 3 жыл бұрын
26:36 Uh, Mephilis,why are you looking at me like that?
@Senju259
@Senju259 3 жыл бұрын
Let’s replace hate with love 06
@Senju259
@Senju259 3 жыл бұрын
@@DerpaTure9503 yes
@shadowsonic2912
@shadowsonic2912 3 жыл бұрын
This is one of the first sonic games I got. and this is also the game that made me a sonic fan.
@anonymousnobody326
@anonymousnobody326 2 жыл бұрын
What this game comes down to is everyone parroting opinions they heard online. Got it for Christmas 2006 and honestly didn’t think it was that bad. Sure, I noticed the glitches, but I also noticed tons of them in SA 1 and 2 as well. I remember one time playing Radical Train and realising that I was having as much fun as I did playing SA 2.
@BlueJack222
@BlueJack222 3 жыл бұрын
29:12 There's a reason why tails wasn't perfected in 3D, he's too broken, he can just fly wherever he wants, skipping a lot of level, that makes it too easy
@EdgyQueen
@EdgyQueen 3 жыл бұрын
This is super easy to solve. Just create aerial platforms. Also, Tails' flight is limited, at least in gameplay
@Dansam04
@Dansam04 3 жыл бұрын
@@EdgyQueen I would say that’s the only thing they did right in 06 (for tails). They limited his flight ability. Probably too much though since Tails drops like a rock after letting go of the jump button during his flight.
@melon6444
@melon6444 3 жыл бұрын
I would say the only reason Tails doesn't work in 3D is because they kept putting him in Sonic stages with little to no changes.
@Dansam04
@Dansam04 3 жыл бұрын
@@melon6444 Yeah that too
@illmindent1052
@illmindent1052 3 жыл бұрын
Man The ups n Downs I Had Playing This Game Loved It
@raechuu4887
@raechuu4887 2 жыл бұрын
i am obsessed with this video and i agree with basically everything here. although there is one thing i cant let go, even though i definitely can understand and even agree with arguments in favor of it, is shadow working for GUN. it makes sense if 06 was a hard reboot, but i really cant understand why he would work for GUN after what happened on the ark. i think theres a way he can keep maria's promise, and my ideal version of that is him and team dark working as a sort of vigilante group thats foremost goal is doing good no matter what. they take on their own missions and do what they need to do. i think shadow can still maintain that kindhearted heroism in this sort of role. but again i definitely love 06's characterization and its my favorite in the series by far.
@Argent_Void
@Argent_Void 3 жыл бұрын
I love Sonic '06, too. It has my favourite Sonic character, Silver. It has an interesting story and it was a great ending to the Adventure series. If you don't get what I mean, depending on how I group the games, Sonic Adventure, Sonic Adventure 2, Sonic Heroes, Shadow the Hedgehog and Sonic the Hedgehog belong to a single canon, being the Adventure arc.
@YamiRequiem98
@YamiRequiem98 3 жыл бұрын
i don't mind if u never see this comment but i feel like i should say thank u for saying everything i wish i could say about this game im terrible at explaining things so the fact that u said everything i wanted say is so good i really love this game too and i really hate the hate this game receives i wish so badly sonic games nowadays could be just as good as this one cause as rushed as it was u could somehow still feel the heart and soul put into this game and i love that so much this is how i will always remember these characters forever thank u thank u so much for this video nya!
@foolproofgaming4866
@foolproofgaming4866 Жыл бұрын
Understandable, have a great day
@thevarietypacksnaxx405
@thevarietypacksnaxx405 Жыл бұрын
I honestly really liked it. Just needed more time to bake including a chao garden, a good multiplayer mode and call it adventure 3
@calebstephens6059
@calebstephens6059 3 жыл бұрын
This game is starting to age like wine
@traktor420
@traktor420 3 жыл бұрын
@@DerpaTure9503 yeah, and you, in contrast to wine, aged like milk
@x-mighty7602
@x-mighty7602 3 жыл бұрын
Name: Mephiles Subtitles: Mephalus
@mikedanielespeja6128
@mikedanielespeja6128 3 жыл бұрын
My phallus
@x-mighty7602
@x-mighty7602 2 жыл бұрын
@@mikedanielespeja6128 what?
@ghostrider4109
@ghostrider4109 2 жыл бұрын
I kinda like how Sonic’s spikes were longer in this one. That and the huge eyebrow ridges made him look pretty stylish
@auxilirious
@auxilirious 3 жыл бұрын
This is great honestly!
@undeadbatman9762
@undeadbatman9762 3 жыл бұрын
I love sonic, shadow and silver. To be honest I like them better than team sonic. Team dark is still nice though.
@alexarivas5239
@alexarivas5239 3 жыл бұрын
Sonic 06 is honestly a great game. One of the best in my opinion. I will never forget the entertainment this game brought me.
@leasebergfladstad167
@leasebergfladstad167 Жыл бұрын
My Known Sonic '06 Positive Opinions 1. Is is my second favorite Sonic game of my six favorite Sonic games. 2. The game was just made for 15th anniversary and intended to be a reboot for the Sonic the Hedgehog franchise. 3. Adventure/Open world gameplay than just linear gameplay. 4. The other characters than only one character are also playable in the story. 5. There are similarities, elements and references just from my best favorite Sonic game Sonic Adventure. 6. Some of characters '06 designs are better than the Modern designs and 3D graphic are better than most other Sonic games' 3D graphic. 7. The characters sharing one story from each perspective of it. 8. Darker and edgier. 9. The soundtrack. 10. One of the longest Sonic games. 11. Silver the Hedgehog, a new hedgehog with telekinesis powers and his design. 12. Mephiles is one of my favorite Sonic villains, who just killed my favorite Sonic character Sonic. 13. One of the rare child-friendly media I have seen a human is romantic attracted to an anthropomorphic animal I wanted to see and just learned why I have rarely seen it because of Zoophilia/Bestiality. My Known Sonic '06 Negative Opinions 1. Were some glitches. 2. The loading take time and even loading for small town missions. 3. The humans are realistic and not semi-realistic or anime-esque style. 4. Sega didn't finish the game because of 15th anniversary. 5. No Sonic '06 remaster. 6. Cream the Rabbit didn't also appear in the game. 7. Amy still had shorter hair than in later games. 8. Some of the characters don't also use some of their other known skills and moves. Tails don't use tail combat and driving plane, Knuckles don't use digging, Amy don't use other hammer attack moves and Rouge don't use kick combat and digging. 9. Sonic '06 didn't become a reboot which was just meant to be for the Sonic the Hedgehog franchise and Sonic the Hedgehog: Awakening which probably both was just meant to be a sequel of Sonic '06 was cancelled because of the poor reception of Sonic ’06.
@sheriefwoodard8686
@sheriefwoodard8686 Жыл бұрын
I can actually explain why Shadow is working for G.U.N in canon. He actually started working for them in the Shadow the Hedgehog game many overlook this. The G.U.N Commander actually offers Shadow to join to patch up the things that happened to Shadow in the canon story Shadow then becomes allies with both him and the President. This dialogue is unlocked in the extra Shadow missions after you A rank the Shadow stages. As for Shadow being an android this is also explained in the Shadow game not in cutscenes though however for some reason. In the final boss against Black Doom if your fighting Black Doom for long enough Eggman will admit that he lied about telling Shadow he was an android and that one of his robots had saved Shadow after the Ark incident. 06 kinda continues the story of Shadow being his own man that the Shadow game introduced. Black Doom manipulated Shadow with the past and Mephiles uses the opposite tactic the future after Shadow vowed to not be affected by the past anymore. Mephiles probably could have tricked the Shadow from the Shadow game but Shadow by 06 had matured and refused to be manipulated again
@Angel_Kittichik
@Angel_Kittichik 3 жыл бұрын
Yah know, after thinking about how Sega's attitude became, in reaction to the consumers' opinion of this game, had influenced the later games, I wish someone could've gone back in time and either, 1 Somehow convince Sega to make it StH 2007, or 2 Give a warning about overblown reactions causing longterm damage. Don't get me wrong, Sega shouldn't have rushed the game for the holidays, but considering some of the latest games we got didn't have the charming stories we craved, it could've been a better reaction. I'm really happy you shared your opinion, it gives me hope that not everything can be all bad, and I'm incredibly thankful for it. I just wish they did more with Silver because he's my favorite character.
@charleskruger8607
@charleskruger8607 3 жыл бұрын
I love Sonic 06, my favourite sonic game and 3rd favourite game of all time
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