i love *STAR WARS: EPISODE VII - THE FORCE AWAKENS* why all the hate?

[@mjhart68]

I'm a lifelong Star Wars fan. The first movie came out when I was 8 years old. I wore a homemade Jawa costume for Halloween. I like all the movies to differing degrees, but I don't feel hate for any of them. (As Yoda said, hate leads to the dark side.) Hope you continue to approach these movies with an open mind and enjoy them. (Can't wait for you to get to Rogue One.)

[@UnhandyCandy280]

I liked this movie a lot. It sets up all the questions that the next two movies should answer... Who is Rey ?, Why did Finn gain a conscience ?, what is going on with this 'First Order' ? With the new republic capital gone, what happens to the galaxy's peace ? Why did Luke's sabre call out ? This is plenty for the next two movies to solve... buckle up there are some surprises in store.

[@tofersiefken]

I'm here for any of the live-action Star Wars content you react to. I hope you'll react to the stand-alone movies, the Disney+ series Obi-Wan Kenobi, The Mandalorian, The Book of Boba Fett, etc.

[@bartsimpsonsimpson3367]

The hate starts with the next two films. This one is ok.

[@rastarapha]

Nah, he's the begining of all this shit

[@rastarapha]

@RM618h no, it was

[@frankducky6130]

Saw this movie twice in theaters when it came out, liked it quite a bit.

[@kevinarnold7957]

At first you may like it. Most of us did, because we automatically assumed anything Star Wars at that time would be timeless and generational. At the time of release, nothing SW had been released at the time for years and this was the first with the big Disney wallet behind it. We were all excited and ready for the new Star Wars legacy to begin. Once the newness, excitement, and anticipation had worn away … we were able to think about what we watched. And realized EVERY Jedi had and has to go through years of training to be attuned to and use the force. Even Vader “the chosen one” had years of experience and training. Yet Rey immediately is an expert pilot, ship maintenance expert, electronics expert, robotics expert, force wielding mind control expert, picks up a lightsaber and needs no training. Imagine being the best at everything after being dropped off on a desert planet as a child. No wonder the first order was doomed right from the start as soon as Rey entered the screen. She doesn’t need Finn, Han Solo, any Skywalker, training, or anything. I am surprised she simply didn’t destroy the First Order in the first movie with her mind without any equipment, ships, sabers, people, or knowledge of the “First Order”. Next, Luke: this isn’t the Luke Skywalker we all know. The Luke we know was hopeful beyond all odds. Yet, faces one downfall in his new school and runs away “forever”. It makes no sense in a character arc of being the hope of the resistance.

[@losingstreak1138]

This is such a fun movie. I'm glad you enjoyed it. I look forward to seeing the rest of your Star Wars journey! 😊

[@bensneb360]

I may have criticisms for where the trilogy goes but this is a solid and very fun movie, one of the best Star Wars movies

[@benjaminroe311ify]

That's very fair. I think this is the best one of the sequel trilogy. I've decided to speak out in defense more often of the sequels because I think they get undue hate. They aren't as bad as being 1/10 stars or "completely ruined" the story is OK and some of the characterizations and cinematography are top notch. They aren't masterpieces and they aren't as good as the Original Trilogy. But I do place the sequels on par with the Pre quels. Better in SOME ways, worse in others.

[@moabman6803]

The sequels aren't near as good as the prequels.

[@henrytjernlund]

A great movie on par with IV. Ignore the haters. Thanks for the reaction.

[@henrytjernlund]

Yes the movie is similar to IV because IV in turn is the classic Hero's Journey theme like many other stories. Not a new thing.

[@moabman6803]

It's a terrible movie. A 3rd death star thing? Really?? How cheesy can you get?

[@slinkyduck-sg1po]

Allow me to properly explain "the hate" without just saying, "it's just a horrible movie" or saying, "there is nothing wrong with this movie and you should like it". This is the one of the sequels I'd say is genuinely good. People don't like it because, Rey is bit op for having not trained with the force,the mane story beats were taken from a new hope. But it's not this movie that's bad it's the next two they visually are beautiful movies and the surface level story is all right but deeper meaning and reasonable force power strength go out the window.

[@myfootballjesus]

this was a good film to start up the story again !! lots of people liked it and i enjoyed it ! unfortunately they had no clue what to doing in the next ones with different writers and directors and no direction and no imagination at all, they kind of fall off and very unsatisfying

[@greggybada]

false... jj abrams had no clue what to do from the start... if he did, he wouldn't even hire kasdan... have you seen his LOST series? it's 1 bullsht over another for 6 seasons..... 😂😂😂😂😂

[@rogeliolarronda]

The hate comes from the movie being a rehash of Episode IV: a youngster on a desert planet with an untapped power, tasked with delivering a droid containg an important piece of information… it even includes the destruction of a planet-destroying giant weapon!🤗 People took the bait; it’s a cute, entertaining Disney movie; made with extreme care out of fear of screwing up their 4 billion dollars purchase of Lucasfilm, so they played it really, really safe, simply giving the fans the movie they knew they like, just re-packaged in a flashier wrapping paper.

[@EndlessMike1987]

They sent him away to train with Luke, he was training a new generation of Jedi. The next movie explains it more. Also, Harrison Ford wanted Han to die.

[@raybernal6829]

You can watch Rogue One and Solo at anytime since you've watched both the OG trilogy (they are not referred to as the sequels since they were released first 😊) and the prequels. ❤

[@benjaminroe311ify]

I like the sequel trilogy ok. It's not my favorite Star Wars trilogy but it's good. I just wouldn't call it great. They would have done better to use the same director or same screenwriter for all of it instead of switching teams. The whole thing doesn't flow as well as the earlier trilogies. Although they have some great moments and great visuals and such. They get so much undue hate from old school fanboys and girls that don't like that their childhood franchise took a bit of different direction. I will admit as an older fanboy myself there were things I didn't like but I ultimately have sided with the fans of the sequels, especially when I realized a lot very young Star Wars fans I know liked these ones.

[@moabman6803]

It doesn't flow because they had no plan. JJ actually called George Lucas and asked him what he should do for episode 9 after he saw episode 8.

[@glennwelsh9784]

The movie's biggest criticism is how it plays so much like a retread of A New Hope and Empire Strikes Back with a lot of the same story beats. Because of this, critics felt that it leaned too much into nostalgia for the movies in the Original Trilogy. People also didn't like seeing fan-favorite legacy character Han Solo go out like that, even though it was originally planned for him to die way back in Return of the Jedi. Some felt robbed of the opportunity to see Han, Luke, and Leia all back together again. It's probably the least derided movie in the Sequel Trilogy though, as each movie gets progressively worse, largely due to a lack of a solid overall plan for the new trilogy. After you watch all three movies, you get a sense that they really didn't know where they were going with the series.

[@harley2704]

Actually, it was more like whining than criticism. People need to learn to just enjoy things.

[@willfanofmanyii3751]

@@harley2704 "just turn your brain off and consume"

[@benjaminroe311ify]

@@willfanofmanyii3751 It's not about turning your brain off. Many people like the sequel trilogy. Just not people that you interact with in your echo chambers online. That being said. I do respect many of the criticisms. It's certainly worse than it SHOULD have been. I just still have fun watching them. Although they are my least favorite trilogy.

[@harley2704]

@@willfanofmanyii3751Enjoying something doesn’t mean people turn their brain off. There seems to be alot of nitpicking and hate out there. To me, that’s not what being a fan is all about. There may be certain things that happen in the story that I wouldn’t write, but I’m not the writer and it’s not my story. If I wanted it my way only, I would write my own fan fiction or make a fan film. It’s like reading a book a throwing a tantrum because your favorite character dies ( Annie Wilkes vibes). Fans aren’t supposed to dictate what happens in a story. It’s supposed to be told to us. It may not be the story I would tell, but I can appreciate and enjoy it anyway. That’s what being a fan is to me. I will always be grateful for any new Star Wars movie or show.

[@arcadeinvader8086]

@@harley2704 somehow palpatine returned

[@xDarthSTYXx]

Your criticism of the humor makes me feel like you ignored the Prequel trilogy...otherwise I loved the video.

[@scottaznavourian3720]

Alot of hate for this movie is retroactive. It was beloved in 2015...then 2017 and 2019 hapoened

[@BobbyMoore2-mp8wb]

Star Wars episode 7 was awesome 😎

[@danamarvelstar]

Rey is like my counterpart in fiction. I love her. Why she’s my counterpart is a long story 💛

[@moabman6803]

How? Rey is a Mary Sue. Nothing happens to her in the movies. She defeats everything.

[@Doodchillbro]

loved this

[@user-ol4qz1cx3j]

The real hate comes from fans forgetting that this franchise was meant for 10 year olds. As adults it doesn’t make sense to them. Then they become infuriated when the story doesn’t go like they want it to. Why do you think Disney bought it? It’s meant for kids.

[@kaygee2121]

Exactly. Failure to manage expectations, and losing that sense of childhood wonderment.

[@kaan9254]

Kids didn’t like it either…

[@MaxArch]

for kids ? with woke stuff ? really ? go away bot

[@boobaooo]

@@kaan9254 those same kids that were probably influenced by the internet to hate the sequels ? As someone who grew up up while tcw was airing, the internet definitely groomed me into hating the prequels and believing TCW to be the only good thing from that era

[@markroxas7104]

I was waiting for you to recognize General Hux. He was the guy in the film you recently reacted to, About Time. Also, the Storm Trooper Rey mind tricked was Benoit Blanc .

[@bucknasty6288]

Same

[@middlegrounds109]

Hello. Love your red jacket looks cool.

[@starlord3496]

Let's go

[@pflanzenfr3ak]

❤Love the new characters

[@X90080]

I personally don’t like it because it completely messed up the story, there were so many cool things with Luke and gang in the novels after the sixth movie, but instead of adapting that, they decided to leave those stories in the dirt

[@teddyj5187]

Just wait for it. The force awakens the only one that's decent.

[@slumpzlovell]

Watch a video on Star Wars lore and you'll see why everyone hates these movies, they had so much to use and yet they failed miserably I personally like Reys character and her story but my god they just did her no type of justice If not for Dave Faloni Star Wars would've been dead a long time ago.

[@eschiedler]

There are lots of reviews online about the hate and they are fairly sincere. Most have the same concerns, a) Rey is a Mary Sue, b) the original characters are mistreated, c) the plot is a copy of New Hope, d) Kylo Ren is super whiny and unlikeable. You can disagree, of course. However, just wait for the hate of the next two sequels...... it's on another level and the box office crashed....

[@eschiedler]

Follow up: people who love Star Wars love visiting Star Wars at Disneyland... this movie is part of that experience and nostalgia, so there are tons of fans.

[@eschiedler]

@@idiot_city5444 Interesting take.

[@greggybada]

@@eschiedler another level???? yeah, Last Jedi was on another level so much so that they didn't even wanna bet on making a toyline for the Rise of Skywanker... imagine that? a star wars movie without a toyline??? talk about another level.......... 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@da-vidcargill4975]

@@greggybada u done crying

[@starwarsbigfan06]

I appreciate your perspective and understand that the Star Wars sequels have been a topic of much debate among fans. It’s clear that these films evoke strong opinions (just like the prequels in the past, and I think it’s important to recognize that everyone’s views are shaped by their own expectations and experiences with the franchise. a) Regarding Rey being labeled as a ‘Mary Sue,’ I believe that every character’s journey is open to interpretation. Some may see her abilities as unearned, while others might view them as a fresh take on the hero’s journey. I personally don't see her as a Mary Sue as she does make mistakes and lacks some control in using the force since it is now surging inside of her. b) As for the treatment of the original characters, it’s certainly a challenge to balance legacy with innovation. I can see why some fans feel the original characters deserved different arcs, but I also think that introducing new characters and stories is essential for the saga to evolve. I view them as the Kenobi of this trilogy. Here to pass the baton along to the new trio. c) Concerning the plot similarities to ‘A New Hope,’ I think there’s merit in both honoring the roots of the series and in forging new paths. It’s a fine line to walk, and not everyone will agree on the execution. I think this film did a good job in balancing the new with the familiar. d) Kylo Ren’s character has been polarizing, but I find the complexity of his internal struggle quite compelling. His flaws make him a different kind of antagonist, one that some viewers might relate to more than others. He's someone who is really trying to prove his worth without being undermind by his allies of his family. As for the reception of the subsequent sequels and their performance at the box office, it’s a reminder of how diverse the fanbase is and how varied their expectations can be. It’s okay to have differing opinions, and discussions like this can help us understand the wide array of viewpoints within the Star Wars community. I disagree in the box office crashing as all three films made well over a billion dollars with even two of them being the number one films of their respected years. Ultimately, I think it’s the passion for Star Wars that brings us together, even when we disagree on certain aspects of its storytelling. What are some elements of the sequels that you did enjoy?

[@Pinkielover]

actually, they didn't hate this. Movie It's the next 2 that sucked

[@waynet1022]

I think the lens flare in your outro was fitting for a J.J. Abrams film reaction.

[@BB-9EZ]

TFA has always been on of my favorites. I hate all the hatred it gets even tho when it first released it was more loved. The haters ruin it for people starting their Star Wars journey too.

[@theuncoveredlamp]

i hated from the beginning. i almost wasn't allowed in to see it because my family bought 21+ seats and i didn't have my ID. After the movie was over i was regretting arguing with staff to convince them to let me in

[@BB-9EZ]

@@theuncoveredlamp Welcome to the low percentage of people. At the beginning at least.

[@08191906]

To each his own. There is no cookie cutter recipe for how to respond to Star Wars; the sequel trilogy included. The box office success of this film had almost nothing to do with the Star Wars-ness of it. After the long time between this and ROTS fans were GOING to pay to see it. However, after the first week the fidgeting started. The primary complaint was the decision to deconstruct the original SW trio of Han, Luke & Leia; that, of them all, only Leia was allowed to maintain a semblance of her former self. Han Solo, the loveable scoundrel with a conscious, was transformed into a deadbeat dad. Luke, the actual "hope" referenced Ep IV's title, was reduced to a self-absorbed, curmudgeonly, cynical hermit. But the most egregious wrong was not ALLOWING them to do scenes together. It was clear the leadership of Lucasfilm made this movie's goal a means to usher out, very unceremoniously, THE FAN'S "old" and usher in THEIR "new". It will be interesting to see what you think of the rest of the movies.

[@juaneliasartaviamoya966]

They are good movies 7, 8 and 9!!!

[@OptmiusPrime114]

“Why all the hate?” Because passionate Star Wara fans like myself feel that the Sequel Trilogy does not honor nor respect the lore and the legacy the previous films established.

[@DarthChosen]

the film got hate because it destroyed alot of the ideals of starwars, it made the force and other concepts simplistc and unimportant. fin can somehow use a lightsaber and even was able to harm kylo with it. ray with barely any training pilots ships and beats kylo in both a saber and force combat. rey can randomly understand wookie. and ofc lightsabers never kill anymore, and kylo took a bolt from chewbacca's bowcaster with minimal dmg somehow.

[@Pinkielover]

The hate is in the next 2 movies.. I actually thought the movie wasn't too bad.. but they trashed it with the next two movies bad choices

[@raybernal6829]

The comments here Ashna are a prime example of the fandom .... Smh 🙄

[@raybernal6829]

@@idiot_city5444 oh look at you couldn't think of anything so just repeat.. be more original... 🤡

[@dylan8058]

The new films are outstandingly good in their own way. Don't let the cantankerous old men scare you off, they're just stuck in the past.

[@auntvesuvi3872]

Thanks, Ashna! 🌌 Ignore all the hate and haters. There is *always* stuff to love about STAR WARS. Absolutely watch the stand-alones and the live-action series. They've always been made out of order, so you'll pick up on what's happening and we're here to help. 🫂

[@LifeisANovel]

I mean there's always "haters" in any topic damn near. I guess you call wm haters or people who don't agree or like something. Literally everything one on this at one point is "hater". I said watch and choose for yourself. But everyone does the same stuff. Just in different categories.

[@claymccarthy6198]

The animated shows are amazing too ... especially Rebels and Clone Wars

[@auntvesuvi3872]

@@claymccarthy6198 That's true. I even loved RESISTANCE and THE BAD BATCH.

[@claymccarthy6198]

@@auntvesuvi3872 yes those are great too and the tales series ...

[@claymccarthy6198]

@@auntvesuvi3872 rebels is my favorite

[@srwilson3s2k14]

this one was ok allbeit a recopy of new hope but the next two are disgraceful VIII is the worst! Just remember as you watch this they literally had NO IDEA NO PLAN what was going to happen in 8 and 9 its insane to me that for such a massive IP to have nothing planned out!

[@patrickvoorhees1725]

The Hate is because of what came after that and that made Awakens worse. There was no plan for that trilogy and thats so shameful

[@EndlessMike1987]

I'm not a big fan of the new trilogy at all, but honestly I think this was the strongest one in it, even if it was basically just a retelling of a New Hope

[@willfanofmanyii3751]

The movie is hated because it literally turned Luke, Han and Leia into failures. - Luke's Jedi order was destroyed and he's in exile. - Han and Leia got divorced. - The Skywalker heir is evil. - The New Republic is destroyed. - The Empire is still running around full power. - Just a worse retread of Episode 4. - Anakin's arc was tarnished. - And then you have Rey being miss perfect one movie in.

[@da-vidcargill4975]

u mean the same luke skywalker that legacy was greater after death and by their stupid logic yoda and obiwan were failures as their jedi order was destroyed as well and u mean the same leia that helped rescuse her son from the dark side, yea ppl can show they know crap about stuff

[@raybernal6829]

You can watch both Rogue One and Solo at anytime. IMHO Rogue One is one of the best in SW universe along with ESB and RoTS ... Enjoy Ashna❤️

[@raybernal6829]

@@idiot_city5444 it's an opinion ... Relax ...

[@raybernal6829]

The fandom are a bit much... I enjoy their idiocy for the humor.

[@raybernal6829]

@@idiot_city5444 the pendejada is a bit much payaso.

[@rastarapha]

If you want to see Lucas vision you need to watch eogue one and andor

[@quoniam426]

Remember the state of Luke's aunt and unle when he found them? Burned alive. So seeing a flame thrower in action seems legit. Lucas didn't like the movie because it was a rehash of episode IV and there was no technical innovation in it, contrary what he was doing or even what Rogue One dit. The movie seems exciting at first watch but give it time and you'll see that it is far from what the others you already know are. Ren's saber is more unstable than normal. How did they get through the shield? Phasma just deactivated it under threat, silly ! Oh yeah, Luke appears for 30s and doesn't have any single line !!! ARE YOU KIDDING ME? Even Hamill was disappointed.

[@Zuckuss79]

Also if you watch his interview when Disney bought Star Wars, He had Rough Drafts for 7-9 and Disney threw it away to write their own version. Which is why I won't watch the sequals.

[@kaygee2121]

The sequels get hate much like the prequels got hate. Haters gonna hate. Don't get me wrong, I totally understand where that hate comes from BUT All the star wars installments are flawed. All of them. The point is too pick out what you do like. Star Wars was meant to first be enjoyed through the eyes and wonderment of a child. It's still enjoyed by children at heart and has become a generational thing. Nostalgia is also a seriously powerful lens to view Star Wars through, that a lot of people tend to way underestimate. 💖

[@christopherplummer1299]

It's not hate for this movie alone. Force Awakens gets dragged into the overall disappointment and dislike of the whole trilogy by the end of it. You also have to take into account the decades of books, comics, etc that have explored this time period of Star Wars before these movies were made. They go off in such a vastly different direction it is hard for older fans to accept Disney's alternate timeline and lack of well known and loved characters from 20+ years and 100s of books.

[@frankducky6130]

Exactly, this movie made 2 billion and has an audience score of 85 percent, smashing success.

[@LapisAndroid17ParkRanger]

This one was ok on its own, the problem is this becomes bad because of the next 2 movies.

[@FierceDIO]

😟

[@op66op]

Bad writing and bad characters😢

[@greggybada]

W H Y A L L T H E H A T E ? ? ? ? you watched all star wars movies once in a matter of weeks... real star wars fans watched each movie 5000 times for 3 years before the next one came out, and then watch everything again a billion times after... what do you know?.......

[@ISavant]

that "real" star wars fans like you are wildly toxic and unhinged?

[@jeffreymcmahon3627]

Yeah, I mean why should anyone new to SW form their own opinions about, let alone enjoy them for what they are? How awful. You two would thrive in 1930s Germany.

[@ISavant]

@@jeffreymcmahon3627 go easy on him, he's the mayor of idiot city 🤣

[@langleyh8243]

Bro why are you so emotional? Relax😆

[@greggybada]

@@jeffreymcmahon3627 jj abrams had no clue what to do from the start... if he did, he wouldn't even hire kasdan... have you seen his LOST tv series? it's 1 bullsht over another for 6 seasons..... that's his writing style...

[@pretax3366]

This one’s not that bad mainly because it’s a new hope 2.0 but the rest suck

[@Samrski85]

well for one it does its own thing not really respecting much of old

[@SwiftJustice]

There there. It's okay. You're okay.

[@Samrski85]

@@SwiftJustice brother what? i aint even mean hate by it im just sayin that old fans aint like but that don't mean new ones didn't or just don't care

[@LordCartanya]

There are lots of things done wrong here, starting with the plot, that it was already created from many content of lucasarts throw the years, wich they discarted and did there own things. They changed completly some characters from the originals, and people without any training in the force can do amazing shit from nowhere.... those are few reasons of the many...

[@theuncoveredlamp]

This was the worst movie i had ever seen untill i saw the last jedi

[@SwiftJustice]

More crying from the sniveling right

[@World-Maker]

why all the hate!? because it's BS this is not Star Wars and never will be.

[@SwiftJustice]

More crying from the sniveling right

[@oneironaut420]

Keep in mind that this is not the story George Lucas intended to tell. In fact, when Disney bought Star Wars from him, he had story treatments already written out but Disney actually rejected them in favor of letting different directors make up the story of each film as they went along, and it shows. The story George Lucas had in mind was much more interesting and original.

[@oneironaut420]

@saimonfullah Who's clinging to what? Just stating a simple fact. Why do facts offend you?

[@raybernal6829]

Remember people ridiculed the prequels when they first came out. Especially Ep2

[@oneironaut420]

@@raybernal6829 There wasn’t anything that bad about the prequels. It was people’s expectations that made them hate those movies. The movies themselves, while flawed, are sound, and are consistent with the mythological and psychological themes George Lucas has always tried to convey with Star Wars. The sequels have no such intention. They exist solely to get fans’ money by appealing to nostalgia. The prequels expanded the story; the sequels go backwards for no reason other than to make people remember the OT, reducing Star Wars to lightsabers and pew-pew with nothing to say.

[@raybernal6829]

@@oneironaut420 you're preaching to the choir though I disagree about the sequels. I enjoyed them. Looking for something will lead to disappointment. That's my opinion and thoughts... Everyone has one no one is right or wrong. 😉

[@raybernal6829]

@@idiot_city5444 awwww I'm devasted how can I continue on with my life. Smh like I care what somebody living in their mom's basement who works at Taco Bell 27 hours a week says. 🙄😂

[@facelessman9224]

Seven was OK, but it all goes to crap by episode 8.

[@franciscoantonio5306]

The Disney content isn't Star Wars

[@SuperKingash]

because Rey has to win at everything and has no character development (a mary sue)

[@benjaminroe311ify]

She's not a mary sue. This is one of the criticisms of the sequels that is perpetuated in echo chambers and although she is very powerful and quite skilled at certain things easy things to point out is the first time she fights Kylo she loses and is captured and she also lets her friend/mentor die (Han Solo) She also fails at first to convince Luke to come back, she also succumbs to the dark side tempations and is only rescued from Snoke by Kylo otherwise she'd be dead. Also quite socially awkward. So yeah... not a Mary Sue.