I love them but it feels weird.

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Open Mike Eagle

Open Mike Eagle

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@MonkJordanMusic
@MonkJordanMusic 2 ай бұрын
Hip-Hop Hall of Fame seems like a logical step.
@open_mike_eagle
@open_mike_eagle 2 ай бұрын
how we get the funding tho
@jakoblawrence34
@jakoblawrence34 2 ай бұрын
@@open_mike_eaglerap is the most popular genre on the planet…surely between the popularity and the amount of money in the industry, there’d be a way?
@MonkJordanMusic
@MonkJordanMusic 2 ай бұрын
@@open_mike_eagle that I don’t know. I’m guessing some major sponsors would need to step in. Honestly I agree that Drink Champs is a bit wild but has the right idea and message at heart. Get some brands that are owned by some people who love this genre and want to see it develop a historical precedent.
@MonkJordanMusic
@MonkJordanMusic 2 ай бұрын
@@open_mike_eagle I feel like there would need to be some major sponsors involved who want to see the community flourish. Seems like there could be a potential festival structure tie in. Like “see the legends being inducted this year”
@idolgray
@idolgray 2 ай бұрын
Theres is one opening in the BX soon. More of a museum. But I'm sure a hall of fame type of ceremony would eventually be added.
@TsunamiSkweek
@TsunamiSkweek 2 ай бұрын
you're so incredibly thoughtful, I can't tell you how much i appreciate and the eagerness with which i approach every upload. i think one of the key things is that it feels like you have such a keen sense of your place in these things -- either in your unique perspective of expertise or in your lack of a broader perspective, posing your questions outward with the audience. this combined with your wealth of knowledge feels like more times than not, you create something whole.
@open_mike_eagle
@open_mike_eagle 2 ай бұрын
thats incredibly kind of you to say. I strive to bring my full self more into these conversations and truly discuss my idea of my place in these things
@kcorstel
@kcorstel 2 ай бұрын
That’s a really beautiful thing to say, and it also matches what I feel about Mike but just haven’t been able to express quite so well. Nice one.
@SmokinAcesProd
@SmokinAcesProd 2 ай бұрын
The Rock And Roll Hall should've NEVER been named the Rock And Roll HOF. Among the first inductees was Sam Cooke, James Brown and Fats Domino. It was ALWAYS the Music Hall Of Fame
@kcorstel
@kcorstel 2 ай бұрын
Damn I did not know that!
@jacquelinea8719
@jacquelinea8719 2 ай бұрын
the details of DOOM's death are so depressing. he and so many others deserved better
@Cdr2002
@Cdr2002 2 ай бұрын
100% facts, the UK government’s handling of COVID and the health care system was horrendous; I watched a video about the whole thing and how it related to DOOM’s passing the other day
@kcorstel
@kcorstel 2 ай бұрын
Amen.
@emceeunderdogrising
@emceeunderdogrising 2 ай бұрын
Midnight Marauders is also my favorite Tribe album. One of my favorite albums ever. I heard it right after discovering Hip Hop. Huge influence on me. It's why I make Psychedelic Rap. There are a lot of preservation societies in Hip Hop that hand out lifetime achievement awards. I always prefer those over the Rock Hall of Fame. Hip Hop was half-ass put in once it started making more money than Rock music. It's sales focused. I just don't care about sales. Now they are putting in Kool Herc to correct the mistake. There's no real criteria there either. It's so random.
@justsehlim
@justsehlim 2 ай бұрын
the love movement!!! it hits different, i be in my mental bag to that album more than any other tribe project
@LogicOverEverything
@LogicOverEverything 2 ай бұрын
I was 8-9 when I first seen the Bonita Applebaum video in my auntie house. Tribe made me feel like it was ok to be ME. My fav group of ALL TIME
@kcorstel
@kcorstel 2 ай бұрын
Hell yeah dude
@rundajulesproductions7735
@rundajulesproductions7735 2 ай бұрын
First verses I ever wrote were over the instrumentals for the We Got The Jazz and Scenario remixes. I got the maxi-singles bc they had instrumentals. I didn't like their first and last album as much, but everything they did is classic.
@GreatistheWorld
@GreatistheWorld 2 ай бұрын
time to put some meaning to the words “hip hop institution” You speak really well about music in those autobiographic terms. Creating a reality for yourself with an album is a beautiful framing, or liking ‘the imaginative parts’ of wu tang is so wonderful distinction to seem obvious in hindsight, about that group specifically. Its crazy how just a couple words can unlock doors
@tjkrueger2655
@tjkrueger2655 2 ай бұрын
The weirdness to me is Rock n Roll HOF in general... they feel like they are trying to be this mainstream gatekeeper regardless of genre, but excludes the influential rock, R&B, soul and Hip Hop acts that 'heads' know and love.
@ossiejon-nwakalo8644
@ossiejon-nwakalo8644 2 ай бұрын
I was confused how Missy Elliot got inducted and was introduced by Queen Latifah. But then Queen Latifah gets a Kennedy Center Honors the same year. Weird.
@rongbips024
@rongbips024 2 ай бұрын
god I love hearing you talk about music. need you on Danny Brown’s podcast so bad! would be an instant classic.
@maad1670
@maad1670 2 ай бұрын
frrrr
@rbiznezz2
@rbiznezz2 2 ай бұрын
Yeah you definitely ought to check out The National Hip Hop Museum based outta DC. It’s in its nascent stages of being a Rock N Roll HOF for Hip Hop. Everyone from Sugarhill Gang, Melle Mel, Sha Rock, Lisa Lee, Kurtis Blow, Shante, and Grandmaster Caz to Bun B, Big Daddy Kane, Devin The Dude, Scarface, Beatnuts, DJ Kool, DJ Cash Money, Biz Markie, and Audio 2 to Rakim, Pete Rock, DJ Clark Kent, Masta Ace, Sadat X, Funky 4 + 1, Whodini, UTFO, Slick Rick, KRS, Kool G Rap, Coke La Rock, Sweet G, MC Globe, Grandwizzard Theodore, Dres of Blacksheep, Nice & Smooth, Kid Capri, Diamond D, CL Smooth, Heavy D, and a slew of others have been given honors and have been inducted into the Museum.
@vibesandstuff76
@vibesandstuff76 2 ай бұрын
I was in middle school when I discovered Tribe and De La/Native Tongues. Now, I was always into music because my parents were always listening to stuff like the Doors and Neil Young, but somehow I got into breakdancing in elementary school and Grandmaster Flash/Bambaata. Then came the Beastie Boys, Run DMC, NWA and the Posse, and Public Enemy. But Tribe and the Natives were just on a different vibe. 3 Feet High and Rising and Low End Theory changed my world, and I started seeking out artists more like them, which led me to groups like Organized Konfusion, KMD, the Beatnuts, LONS, etc. Growing up in Utah, the only way I could learn about hip hop was through YO! and reading the shout outs in the liner notes. I learned about a lot of groups in the 90s just by reading those shout outs. Like, for real, I really got into your music, Quelle Chris, etc. because you guys seem to be an extension of what the Natives were doing, but still sticking to your own thing. It doesn't feel weird to me that Tribe is in, but I wonder if it has anything to do with the fact that Tribe were just never as mainstream as some of the others that are in. I feel like groups like Tribe and De La laid the foundation for other groups and artists to be more independent and do things outside of the "normal" rap box. Other guys who should be in the HOF: Funky 4+1, Treacherous 3, Slick Rick, KRS/BDP, Kool G Rap, Big Daddy Kane, Juice Crew, Geto Boys, De La, Wu-Tang, Outkast. I mean, I don't really know their criteria, if they have any. I would put Organized Konfusion and Souls of Mischief in because I know how important they are, but I highly doubt corporate America will ever know that.....or care. I don't know why they can't just have a hip-hop hall of fame.
@rbiznezz2
@rbiznezz2 2 ай бұрын
Check out the National Hip Hop Museum which has been inducting hip hop luminaries and pioneers since 2019. Slick Rick was inducted in 2022.
@dharmavision7
@dharmavision7 Ай бұрын
tribe made it cool to be/dress eccentric, jazzy, off-beat but accountable at that time. hip hop was so angry and dark, we needed to chill. bonita applebum was my intro. native tongues always.
@leereddy6295
@leereddy6295 2 ай бұрын
This is the conversation rock fans have been having for years. There is a long long list of rock musicians who deserve to be in the RnR Hall of Fame but aren't.
@open_mike_eagle
@open_mike_eagle 2 ай бұрын
yeah I dont love the idea of the rap conversation running up against that either
@crnkmnky
@crnkmnky 2 ай бұрын
The Grammy performer snub is real. It happened to MJ in 1988. He performed two songs… 10 minutes with dancers and a church choir. Michael sang his heart out. Bashed his knees into the ground three times. Then he got to sit through: Best Pop Male Vocal: Sting (live) Best R&B Male Vocal: Smokey Robinson Album of the Year: U2 (Joshua Tree) Pop Producer of the Year: Narada (Whitney Houston) The album's recording engineers (Bruce Swedien and Humberto Gatica) won though. 🎛️
@dn30001
@dn30001 Ай бұрын
A cool little nugget about that tribute medley at the HOF ceremony was how they worked in the Scenario Remix before the original Scenario. Kool And The Gang was inducted that night as well. The Scenario Remix uses that Kool and the Gang sample and I'm sure that part of the tribute was a nod to their fellow classmates that night. Dope.
@amduck
@amduck 2 ай бұрын
bit of a side bar, but there is something so formative about the first album you remember buying. also cool to see you unpack why midnight marauders resonated so heavily with you at a time you didn't have the "language" to really dissect it or find some kinda meaningful process. the beautiful part is that even without an interest in making music or writing, I think it's easy for people to still pick that up and understand whatever they're listening to is important and meaningful.
@rh176
@rh176 2 ай бұрын
No Ali, no Bueno. Ali's sister looked annoyed on stage too. Hopefully I just misread the body language.
@open_mike_eagle
@open_mike_eagle 2 ай бұрын
ah see I didn't even know that. still need to watch the ceremony
@scarecrowzw
@scarecrowzw 28 күн бұрын
Hey Mike, I agree with you in that we need a way to separate ourselves as a Hip-Hop culture and honour the definitive greats of Hip-Hop without any corporate whitewashing. I would hate to be swallowed up in the R&R HOF, whilst neglecting how nuanced Hip-Hop truly has been. It does feel as though there is a begging for permission to be acknowledged and it lends power to forces that haven't a clue about this artform. I do think we need more categories of Hip-Hop beyond the limited genre space awarded. Grammy nomination are not where I would gain references on what I ought to listen to and neither are the BETs/MTVs/VMAs. I am from the older generation and I do not mind digging through crates to discover an artist. I just know this corporate machine is completely ignoring all sorts of different versions of this culture in an intentionally subversive manner. I wish there would be a creation of a database to which we could all submit our music and it be listened to by an alternative audience. I know there are redundancies because sooner or later, sponsorships show up and it becomes about the business. Just an incomplete thought from a Hip-Hop artist. #scarecrowzw
@mucktown
@mucktown 2 ай бұрын
I copped Do u want more??!!! with 13-14 cause it was the only one that was on a 5€ offer and all other CD's cost more than double. Best decision ever
@BLKBKLN
@BLKBKLN 2 ай бұрын
We seem to have a very similar experience regarding our introduction to Tribe as well as our taste around 94. I have two older brothers so I heard Rakim, NWA, EPMD, BDP, Kane etc. Tribe was the first group I discovered by myself and they became MY group. Midnight Marauders released when I was 12 and I played that album more than any other recording in my lifetime. Common’s Resurrection also received so much play from me that following year and to your point, I was also initially disappointed in Beats, rhymes, and life when it dropped. The industry was undergoing a pivotal shift during that time and it seemed like Tribe were trying to find how they fit into the new landscape. I always refer to 96 as the fork in road for the soul of hip hop. De la’s Stakes is high was one direction and then you had PAC’s All eyes on me, Jay with Reasonable Doubt and Nas with It was written serving variations of the other path. De La was warning us of the direction towards hyper consumerism and violence and nearly 30 years later, it was pretty damn prophetic.
@protectourfreedom8221
@protectourfreedom8221 2 ай бұрын
Rock and roll Hall of Fame will never encapsulate the full scope of who are the real influential artists. It's like the Grammys. Meant to be taken with a grain of salt. As long as the culture and its followers know, that's all that really matters. The wide mainstream audience aren't meant to f with Chino XL or Doom.
@RadicalEagle
@RadicalEagle 2 ай бұрын
I love listening to you preach.
@PjStekhovenSmith
@PjStekhovenSmith 2 ай бұрын
Love Movement holds a special place for me too. Just captures a time in my life. My first intro to the production of the late great J Dilla which then led me to Slum Village.
@BrillianceProper
@BrillianceProper 2 ай бұрын
This is perfect. This needs to happen.
@robertgardin4971
@robertgardin4971 2 ай бұрын
Yo, mike. So glad I found this channel. Loved you since cobra commander with Danny
@open_mike_eagle
@open_mike_eagle 2 ай бұрын
man thats a long time. thank you ha
@krypto37
@krypto37 Ай бұрын
I agree that the Rock Hall is ill situated to celebrate hip hop in any coherent way-as much as I like to see Tribe spotlighted, and I understand the Hall’s desire to focus on mainstream superstars, but it’s still hard to understand any post-1990 act get in ahead of Eric B. and Rakim, just to name one glaring example.
@NickScott86
@NickScott86 2 ай бұрын
Because of I Left My Wallet in El Segundo, I thought Tribe was from California for years until I saw their documentary 😅 But I don't care about the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame because it was made by the Rolling Stone magazine guy. All of their lists are trash made by people who thought pop culture peaked with the Beatles in the 60s; they're not exactly on the pulse of things.
@munganduchivubwe
@munganduchivubwe 2 ай бұрын
Love all the albums
@bryehn
@bryehn 2 ай бұрын
I started with El Segundo as well. At 12 I want to say. I found De La Soul around the same time through their videos. Love from Ontario Canada
@Vandalio_Saez
@Vandalio_Saez 2 ай бұрын
I think it's age brackets that deem which one of tribes albums is your favorite for me it's low end theory I was a freshman in high school and by the time midnight came out I was into more hard-core dark hip hop but midnight is dope too R.I.P Phife Dawg 🌹
@Quandryification
@Quandryification 2 ай бұрын
the question is what is the criteria? I felt like De La was more successful and just as impactful. QTip is the father of a lot of producers (J Dilla, Kanye, Pharrell etc). But overall, what is the criteria.
@bklyncrook
@bklyncrook Ай бұрын
VH1 used to have that Hip Hop Honors, wonder why the stop that.
@zachhannah8927
@zachhannah8927 2 ай бұрын
I'd like to hear what Hanif has to say about it, but i love listening to you feel out, man
@open_mike_eagle
@open_mike_eagle 2 ай бұрын
now that you mention it, I'd like to hear what he has to say too
@sayerovrhymez4321
@sayerovrhymez4321 2 ай бұрын
If you remember when rap music was called black CNN and not in those terms, we need one another salaams Open Mike Eagle
@easystreetphoto2401
@easystreetphoto2401 2 ай бұрын
tribe kinda changed the way music is made, across genres
@donflo3
@donflo3 2 ай бұрын
Nas has a foundation for rap legends. Providing healthcare and financial support. I imagine he doesn’t want himself to celebrated all crazy like for that, but I think it’s relevant and crucial to the lifestyle, art genre that we love. With that said, Open Mike, you have a similar focus. I would say. You should reach out to his people and further this mission. Hip hop humanitarianism.
@lampsew5047
@lampsew5047 2 ай бұрын
The Love movement is my favorite It sounds greatt out the car
@ferdis7
@ferdis7 2 ай бұрын
Much ado about flowers, need a music family tree xD
@withatilde
@withatilde 2 ай бұрын
chat bro wanted kool g rap in the rock n roll hall of fame 💀
@open_mike_eagle
@open_mike_eagle 2 ай бұрын
I ain't mad at it. I know it aint happening but I aint mad
@asunthegreat5893
@asunthegreat5893 2 ай бұрын
Peace fam much respect 🫡.
@roboslothful
@roboslothful 2 ай бұрын
My bad you did mention public enemy and beastie boys. Whoops
@lifeisbriefWatanabe
@lifeisbriefWatanabe 2 ай бұрын
We need 2 Hip Hop Halls of Fame, East Coast, and West Coast, and they both need to work together and share installations. Give space to graffiti artists. It should be able to give honorable mentions to young people in the game. You should start a Hip Hop Hall of Fame, or Rap Hall of Fame. Whatever you want to call it
@mfknrmxthebangmessiah6012
@mfknrmxthebangmessiah6012 2 ай бұрын
Ice Muthafuckin T needs in. 💯
@89reasons4steeze
@89reasons4steeze 2 ай бұрын
12:15 he starts talking about ATCQ in the Rock N Roll Hall of Fame
@open_mike_eagle
@open_mike_eagle 2 ай бұрын
none of that pesky personal journey
@Dkvizu
@Dkvizu 2 ай бұрын
Are y’all’s attention spans so shot you can’t watch a video how the dude put it out? So context is considered bloat now?
@89reasons4steeze
@89reasons4steeze 2 ай бұрын
@Dkvizu that's exactly right. The internet, caffeine, and high fructose corn syrup have made me clinically impatient.
@almightyEsquilax
@almightyEsquilax 2 ай бұрын
Hell ya for your shoutouts to Roxanne etc!
@kbrown3787
@kbrown3787 2 ай бұрын
isn’t that what the Source Awards or BET Hip Hop awards were supposed to be?
@tmsphere
@tmsphere 2 ай бұрын
Its called the Rockn'Roll Hall of fame and like 0.001% of the inductees play Rock'n'Roll.
@ka9202
@ka9202 2 ай бұрын
Ice Cube?
@uncvic1
@uncvic1 2 ай бұрын
Valid points
@joerivera6011
@joerivera6011 2 ай бұрын
New sub here, 😃👋🏼 this does seem different 🤔
@roboslothful
@roboslothful 2 ай бұрын
What about Public Enemy and Beastie Boys?
@roboslothful
@roboslothful 2 ай бұрын
Didn't really say anything bout you that, they're in
@roboslothful
@roboslothful 2 ай бұрын
Nevermind
@lifeisbriefWatanabe
@lifeisbriefWatanabe 2 ай бұрын
I just wonder... Do you think the industry, keeps trying to stomp on positive, novel, and absurd creativity in the black community? Why did music get darker again in the 90's, weren't things getting better? Why is the dark mumbly stuff more popular again... I know Trump... but, it is still getting better, right?
@mikenoface
@mikenoface 2 ай бұрын
I respect you like MM best, but ... Low End Theory is better, respectfully.
@briansherwood1912
@briansherwood1912 2 ай бұрын
The Love Movement is my favorite Tribe Album
@IFrickenLoveRamen
@IFrickenLoveRamen 2 ай бұрын
finally got a copy of this and listened to the album for the first time a couple weeks ago - excited to hear it many more times
@jfc4798
@jfc4798 2 ай бұрын
When it was first released it was pretty much dismissed as a weak album. Definitely a grower but not up there with Low End Theory or Midnight Marauders imo.
@CoreyBockerTV
@CoreyBockerTV 2 ай бұрын
Busta is a tribe member but he needs his own induction
@mfasiscrackbeats3543
@mfasiscrackbeats3543 2 ай бұрын
love Tribe, big fan and inspiration since day one, anything Native Tongues will always love. as happy as i am for them being inducted, which they rightfully deserve, i understand what you mean by how weird in a way it feels and why so is they’ve been the underdogs who rose to prominence and were snobbed by the Grammys a few years back which wasn’t cool but hey, they’ve rarely if at all ever get it right. but i’m very happy for them either way. great episode, brother🫡
@the_boss45
@the_boss45 2 ай бұрын
Is Ye not in your hall of fame? I think because he said the offensive things he’s said so publicly people think of him worse. Which is fair I guess, but it’s even worse than people who first hand did evil stuff. Anyway he’s a living legend, he did all those great things he did, he paved the way for all the young people out today, and he pushed the boundaries of what hip hop artists could be and do
@open_mike_eagle
@open_mike_eagle 2 ай бұрын
he's a legendary artist but he's done himself no favors with a lot of the antics
@SmitzPNK
@SmitzPNK 2 ай бұрын
Creed sucks!!!
@Leafhurr1cane
@Leafhurr1cane 2 ай бұрын
Rock had to embrace us on a surface level rock been dead for years ever since Prince died. Teezo touchdown brought it back but he black so he is trash to them.
@Jon-BEDM
@Jon-BEDM 2 ай бұрын
I feel this comment. Purple Rain is the greatest rock album of all time imo, the guitar work on it the best rock guitar playing of all time, too.
@Leafhurr1cane
@Leafhurr1cane 2 ай бұрын
@@Jon-BEDM Let's not forget Jimmy Hendrix though he could play with his member *pause that's a bad dude 😎
@idolgray
@idolgray 2 ай бұрын
​@@Jon-BEDMas a massive prince fan 🤣🤣🤣🤣 what??
@jfc4798
@jfc4798 2 ай бұрын
Purple Rain is Prince's mainstream (white middle america) album, Thats the only reason most people champion it. If you talk about Dirty Mind, Controversy or For You they don't have a clue what you're talking about.
@mateodavidgutierrezgonzale6556
@mateodavidgutierrezgonzale6556 2 ай бұрын
I don't blame you for loving Prince but that's definitely a super reductive statement. On the other hand, I would definitely not let teezos name get anywhere near Prince in quality.
@YouCorny
@YouCorny 2 ай бұрын
Why everybody so thirsty for flower's?
@open_mike_eagle
@open_mike_eagle 2 ай бұрын
they are a symbol for something, you see
@oophorror2251
@oophorror2251 2 ай бұрын
Rappers don’t belong in RnRHoF except outliers like Run DMC and Beastie Boys. It’s an insult two both genres. Johnny Cash and Charlie Daniels band are country outliers.
@martinderek13
@martinderek13 2 ай бұрын
Damn, I was with you until you talked against Trump.
@open_mike_eagle
@open_mike_eagle 2 ай бұрын
glad you ain't with me no more
@Ironman79
@Ironman79 2 ай бұрын
The rap hall of fame I’m with you but this is the rock n roll hall of fame which is basically the music hall of fame. All of the artists you’re naming won’t get in. A few of them will.
@open_mike_eagle
@open_mike_eagle 2 ай бұрын
that was kind of the point
@Ironman79
@Ironman79 2 ай бұрын
@@open_mike_eagle my bad for jumping the gun. I was commenting as I was watching. Now I’m too the part where you’re saying it. My bad fam 🤘🏾
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