I Love This Wrath And I Love Drafting Control | Foundations Draft | MTG Arena

  Рет қаралды 17,546

Paul Cheon

Paul Cheon

Күн бұрын

Пікірлер: 86
@biakko6433
@biakko6433 2 ай бұрын
I heard you say on one of the recent Patreon videos that you try to post the more successful drafts on KZbin - totally makes sense that the numbers are higher that way. But I just wanted to say, I appreciate the less successful drafts because a huge part of Magic is getting into tough spots and losing situations, so I learn as much from these as the trophy decks. Thanks for the great content!
@haumph
@haumph 2 ай бұрын
thank you for watching!
@Manic-Main
@Manic-Main 2 ай бұрын
Howdy, I’m just getting into magic and found your channel from LR podcast. This is exactly the content I’ve been looking for to get better at drafting. Keep it coming and thank you!
@haumph
@haumph 2 ай бұрын
Welcome aboard!
@davidbielsa5188
@davidbielsa5188 2 ай бұрын
It speaks volumes of you showing these results and not only trophies. Keep it up
@NathanCrandall-y8o
@NathanCrandall-y8o 2 ай бұрын
Agree 100% love to see wins and losses from the pros
@minorcase2
@minorcase2 2 ай бұрын
Just chiming in saying I've gotten a ton out of watching your drafts. I started drafting in DSK and now just got to diamond in foundations thanks to your videos! Joining the patreon, and please keep doing what you're doing! Your commentary and insight is awesome to learn from.
@TirelessSlacker
@TirelessSlacker 2 ай бұрын
I think twice now I've heard you do combat math as though ambush wolf has trample. The trufflesnout does, but ambush wolf does not. It hasn't been relevant either time, but I figured you'd want to know.
@moocowp4970
@moocowp4970 2 ай бұрын
Phew, I thought I was missing something, I was trying to figure out how that game 1 game was lethal
@fuzbuzz00
@fuzbuzz00 2 ай бұрын
I've also had a great control deck beaten by a faster mediocre deck for an underwhelming 2-3 loss in this format. The best decks I've drafted were both BR beatdown decks that went 7-1 each. I think it's really important in this format to have an early board presence. The number of common cards that make 2 bodies or replace themselves is really high and you don't have time to wait for your value engine to go off. Both the beatdown decks I drafted had 16 lands and a curve that topped out at 5 mana with gorehorn raiders. Combat tricks and equipment are also punching above their weight this format from what I've experienced
@YourAdHere4
@YourAdHere4 2 ай бұрын
paul, i feel u on that game 1 flood. I swear every game i’ve played recently has had 12 lands in the top 20
@lockjaw00
@lockjaw00 2 ай бұрын
It was getting so bad I just stopped playing Bo1. I know there's not as many ways to filter through cards in this set, but I think I lost more games to screw/flood in the first 2 weeks than I did in the entirety of Duskmourne. I honestly feels like something is up with the shuffler in Bo1, because my winrate is almost 30% higher after switching to Bo3.
@HJOTech
@HJOTech 2 ай бұрын
i had a game the other day where i got 16 out of my 17 lands out. Opponent also appeared to be flooded or was playing full control and I scared him by not playing anything?? it was brutal
@Mitch_Feral
@Mitch_Feral 2 ай бұрын
Also, I think Fleeting shines in the UR tempo deck, bc it fires off all the Second Card Draw and prowess creatures on the cheap - and it blanks stuff like big spider letting you swing with impunity. But it seems to do almost nothing in a control shell, just bc of the sizes of this set's beatdown creatures, I always end up cycling it, rather than blowing people out.
@bakarogers7146
@bakarogers7146 2 ай бұрын
Paul, I always appreciate how you take the floods and bad beats without being overly salty while still showing enough emotion to be relatable and human. The sign of a great content creator is producing videos that are still valuable even when their draft goes sideways. Thanks for making all of us feel seen out there.
@haumph
@haumph 2 ай бұрын
No problem. Thakns for watching!
@fabio.correia.30
@fabio.correia.30 2 ай бұрын
Nice video. Run away togheter is nice with burglar rats. Regards
@user-xb4ig7un4e
@user-xb4ig7un4e 2 ай бұрын
36:16 I think you should have attacked with the faerie even if it dies only to dig something with Gutless Plunderer, you might put think twice/skeleton on the graveyard and dig deeper for wrath/removal/arcane epiphany
@_Tizoc_
@_Tizoc_ 2 ай бұрын
the game vs unicorn you used stab to kill the wary thespian and i think that was a pretty major misplay. if you'd saved it for the very next turn you could have killed the unicorn and ruined their entire gameplan. i don't think thespian was that much a threats based on your hand. love watching your videos and i learn a lot from you but i think that was a super interesting game.
@i_noahdrunk7969
@i_noahdrunk7969 2 ай бұрын
I feel your pain. Today I drafted GW go wide with overrun/claws out. Proceeded to play against GW, GW and Mono Green who all went wider and overran me better for an 0-3. Them are the beats!
@haumph
@haumph 2 ай бұрын
Oof sorry!
@dangregory-ys2li
@dangregory-ys2li 2 ай бұрын
I feel like the vampire soulcallers were important to include in this deck due to lack of win conditions. Add some evasion and reestablish the board post edict.
@RaptieFeathers
@RaptieFeathers 2 ай бұрын
Paul, you went 17 lands with that many cantrips? Daaaaang. Also, to y'all in the comments complaining about the "shuffler"; it's not that, it's that we have a hard time understanding that randomness means sometimes you'll get flooded out. Happens IRL too. Heck, the more Magic you play, the more it happens!
@Vito95mc
@Vito95mc 2 ай бұрын
that flood was insane. I thought I had bad luck
@Mitch_Feral
@Mitch_Feral 2 ай бұрын
This is my average experience with Arena - on the draw, unkeepable hand with 4 lands of one color, and 3 expensive spells of another. Mulligan to six, keep three lands and some spells, then draw nothing but lands til I die. I've started documenting it, bc it is so common to my online experience, and bears no resemblance to any countertop magic I have ever played. Last week, I had three different games where I saw 11 lands and one spell after a keep six with three lands. It's why I dont pay to play the game - it stings to lose when I am unable to play and I'm just spending currency from daily quests, the notion of putting actual money into this slot machine of a game is absurd to me.
@popey747
@popey747 2 ай бұрын
Ong brother I've had a similar experience it's ridiculous. Once I draw a land I know the next 4-5 cards will also be lands. Very strange, particularly in foundations draft
@Alex2099-
@Alex2099- 2 ай бұрын
Positive vibes only!
@NathanCrandall-y8o
@NathanCrandall-y8o 2 ай бұрын
That flood game 1 was absurd…
@haumph
@haumph 2 ай бұрын
it sure was
@rayswift5711
@rayswift5711 2 ай бұрын
You found your sweet spot
@bocageue
@bocageue 2 ай бұрын
It's so painfull losing to flood sometimes, but there's always next draft.
@dominicnzl
@dominicnzl 2 ай бұрын
I noticed Arena can be so harsh when it comes to screw or flood. Great deck though!
@haumph
@haumph 2 ай бұрын
TY!
@justinblechinger6723
@justinblechinger6723 2 ай бұрын
Started playing 16 lands because of land flood. I only go to 17 lands if I have a high top cmc
@pumpkinking446
@pumpkinking446 2 ай бұрын
Think the two Pilfers was too many, otherwise there was nothing you could do better with that pile of cards. Well played 👍
@WPS578
@WPS578 2 ай бұрын
Good to hear that this is happening to everyone and not only to me I dropped from M#40 to the M#300s after been flooded and land screwed in almost every game. Ain't playing this thing enymore.
@inkjorbas
@inkjorbas 2 ай бұрын
37:05 what am i missing, doesn't Plunderer have deathtouch? Why didn't it block the 6/4? Scratch that, inspiring paladin, sorry😢
@rapidfiregeekforhire9275
@rapidfiregeekforhire9275 2 ай бұрын
I’m a believer 7 wins incoming!!
@TenTiggers
@TenTiggers 2 ай бұрын
Played a green white anthemcorn deck into dimir control by except after I ate the edict and twiddled my thumbs rebuilding my board I got hit with a Rise of the Dark Realms x.x
@haumph
@haumph 2 ай бұрын
Dam
@stefanoderosa9506
@stefanoderosa9506 2 ай бұрын
At 40:25 the greedy play was actually wrathing, you could have chumped with cuttroath and having them overextend, then you would have probably won that game by wrathing 4 creatures
@05xpeter
@05xpeter 2 ай бұрын
I think this was bad luck for the most part. But you passed the 0/6 wall that surveils. It could have done so much work in your deck. In retrospect the lands distribution of 8-8 should probably have been 8-7 in blue's favor by cutting a land, because you have 3 one mana cantrips and no mana zinks, you should consider 16 lands. I looked at the 0/5 turtle and considered if it was playable, since i could work very well with the wrath.
@ZacharyBurr
@ZacharyBurr 2 ай бұрын
Game 2 he says that he did end up cutting a land for the second pilfer.
@coolerdaniel9899
@coolerdaniel9899 2 ай бұрын
I think I would have spec'ed on the Koma p2p1, only because of effects like zombify, and maybe you find the fixing for it, also because the next best card wasn't impressive.
@binscent1
@binscent1 2 ай бұрын
10:38 No consideration for Dismal Backwater? I think it's just what the deck needs and not worth risking it not wheeling EDIT: yeah wow, Bake into a Pie, Arcane Epiphany and Nighthawk coming up really drives home the need! EDIT 2: It tabled?! you're a genius, ignore me
@jahs3897
@jahs3897 2 ай бұрын
The flash wolf doesn’t trample you had 1 more draw step to his big fin bouncer or bake into a pie.
@kameronlebel1038
@kameronlebel1038 2 ай бұрын
Welcome to our lives with screw and flood
@bluejene2146
@bluejene2146 2 ай бұрын
You undervalue the trigger on the 2/2 deathtouch. In many cases it is "raid, scry 3 cards" in cases where you only need a specific few outs removal etc. As soon as you saw the 3/3 paladin with unicorn on board and bunch of cards in op hand you shouldve instantly recognized you need your wrath or lose.
@seant2432
@seant2432 2 ай бұрын
You could say this way less rudely.
@bluejene2146
@bluejene2146 2 ай бұрын
@@seant2432 ok. Didnt think I was being rude.
@seant2432
@seant2432 2 ай бұрын
@@bluejene2146 It's because you're speaking about variable ideas as absolutes. "You undervalue..." Maybe to you, but you can't be sure Paul doesn't share your priorities. "You shouldve instantly recognized..." This is dismissive and is a rude way to present a different idea you have from someone else.
@bluejene2146
@bluejene2146 2 ай бұрын
​@@seant2432ah I see. So I must lead with "in my opinion" for someone like you to recognize that my statement is my opinion, else someone like you may be "offended/triggered". Sounds like a "you" problem.
@limabean8948
@limabean8948 2 ай бұрын
​@@seant2432 get real
@RepTuneRepeat
@RepTuneRepeat 2 ай бұрын
Frank Karsten says for 40 card decks, you can cut a land once you have 3 cheap cantrips. By playing 3 cantrips you also have almost a full extra source of both colors. I would play 8 island, 7 swamp, 1 dismal backwater in this deck.
@haumph
@haumph 2 ай бұрын
noted
@RepTuneRepeat
@RepTuneRepeat 2 ай бұрын
@@haumphYou drew very poorly, but I do think that the deck has too much "air". You were often drawing low impact cards in the mid-game.
@haumph
@haumph 2 ай бұрын
@@RepTuneRepeat yeah too many fleeting distractions. would have loved to replace them with think twices.
@mindbuilder2147
@mindbuilder2147 2 ай бұрын
@@haumph this is quite interesting. I have an old "Duelist" magazine from when Ice Age was released, the set with the first cantrips. Strategic advice was "by playing with cantrips, you essentially have a reduced deck size, but also a reduced hand size." Rarely have seen this principle working so clearly like in this draft, almost 30 years later!
@ChrisSchliewe
@ChrisSchliewe 2 ай бұрын
Hey Paul, what do you think about Inspiration from Beyond? I noticed you didn't mention it as a viable option but I've found in control decks where I already have either Edict or Day of Judgement, it's pretty nice to have a way to buy it back once or twice.
@haumph
@haumph 2 ай бұрын
Not a big fan. Too slow and clunky in most instances.
@tylerblalack6684
@tylerblalack6684 2 ай бұрын
cant get fleetings and think twice coming around ever anymore
@Deathmperor
@Deathmperor 2 ай бұрын
Any chance we could see some quickdrafts while it's also foundations?
@haumph
@haumph 2 ай бұрын
I would never draft with bots when I can draft with people!
@carlpalacios
@carlpalacios 2 ай бұрын
Quick drafts are more "build up your collection thing" than an actual game of draft. Or at least that's what I use them for XD
@reishadjessup9828
@reishadjessup9828 2 ай бұрын
Everytime he passes Koma I die a little inside
@haumph
@haumph 2 ай бұрын
It wins at roughly the same rate as bigfin bouncer. I'm okay passing kkoma.
@WPS578
@WPS578 2 ай бұрын
Unfortunately, UG sucks in this format. and Koma by itself is not enough, you have to pair it with the best UG cards of the format to make it work. Otherwise by time you cast it, your opponent has already overran you.
@davidbielsa5188
@davidbielsa5188 2 ай бұрын
If i had 3 1 mana cantrips i would have cut a land
@tychoMX
@tychoMX 2 ай бұрын
Man, this was harsh. I've drafted fairly good decks recently and just had a miserable experience through flood/screw. Not my favourite format so far.
@carlpalacios
@carlpalacios 2 ай бұрын
I belive you entioned this on a different video, but this is a flood format where the best cards are mana sinks
@fredt1983
@fredt1983 2 ай бұрын
Last 6 years of Magic "Draft aggro 1/2/3 drops and win" C'mon Paul.
@haumph
@haumph 2 ай бұрын
I’m not entirely sure what you’re trying to say. Come on Fred.
@boowilbury
@boowilbury 2 ай бұрын
Came here after several 0 -3s to see if I can absorb anything😂
@boowilbury
@boowilbury 2 ай бұрын
Oh no
@daniduc
@daniduc 2 ай бұрын
I disagree that you couldn't have done much about the deck with the anthem - I think that firing the stab at the 3/1 was premature - it was just turn 2m you had a high life total, and the very next turn opponent casted the unicorn, that should have been stabbed instead. Obviously that doesn't mean you would have won _ but for sure would have had a better chance. (Obligatory - I'm a fan and enjoy very much your content - and congrats on qualifying for the arena championship!)
@haumph
@haumph 2 ай бұрын
Stab really isn’t the kind of removal spell you sandbag. You fire it off if you don’t have other good options to preserve your life total. If it’s a hard removal spell like downfall or bake then I agree. In this instance I’m stabbing every time
@YoShoyJosh
@YoShoyJosh 2 ай бұрын
Arena has been unplayable latetly with that shuffler, a lot of lands or no-lands. Tha game 1 was stolen by the shuffler
@SirLeoR_
@SirLeoR_ 2 ай бұрын
17:51 Not dead on board, rage concede.
@msarsur
@msarsur 2 ай бұрын
Great deck ruined by the Arena shuffler. Too bad!
@TMidander
@TMidander 2 ай бұрын
Oh no, control deck plus under 1 hour runtime :S
@ubirajaralopes8415
@ubirajaralopes8415 2 ай бұрын
Arena Shuffler is one of the things that makes me not want to play the game anymore.
@vohbovohborian28
@vohbovohborian28 2 ай бұрын
"If that's not tilting I don't know what is" is correct. "If that's not tilting I don't know what isn't" is probably not correct. Just like: "That's not the right pick *I THINK*" is correct, but all you people keep saying "That's not the right pick *I don't think*" which is stupid and incorrect and sounds weird.
@Kikoberserk
@Kikoberserk 2 ай бұрын
this format sucks so much
The Best Band 😅 #toshleh #viralshort
00:11
Toshleh
Рет қаралды 22 МЛН
It works #beatbox #tiktok
00:34
BeatboxJCOP
Рет қаралды 41 МЛН
coco在求救? #小丑 #天使 #shorts
00:29
好人小丑
Рет қаралды 120 МЛН
These 8 unpopular cards keep winning me games
19:55
Unpopular MTG
Рет қаралды 40 М.
YES I WOULD LIKE 9 ANTHEMS, WHY DID YOU ASK? Historic MTG Arena
23:46
MONO BLACK MAGIC
Рет қаралды 11 М.
I Forgot How Broken Ashiok Was | Pioneer Masters Draft | MTG Arena
1:23:49
Two-Color Combination Tier List | Commander Clash Podcast 175
1:05:39
MTGGoldfish Commander
Рет қаралды 74 М.