I'm Addicted To Strongboxes

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[@subtractem]

First map after posting the video: x.com/subtractem/status/1829957855254028663

[@rosecorone5977]

Twitter just got banned from my country xdd, what were the drops?

[@birofree2601]

@@rosecorone5977 2divs

[@ajHikaru]

@@rosecorone5977 x2 div

[@RodneyAndradeJr]

cant acces it, x got banned in brazil, censorship #freebrazil

[@credodolcevita6555]

@@rosecorone5977 2x div, 2x chaos

[@SpookySkeleton738]

the pillow behind you has a dunes map on it

[@maybe1day373]

😂

[@panamera0607]

you're cooked

[@WillCheadle]

Youre so addicted

[@catedoge3206]

Lol

[@maybe1day373]

Yes, please make a video for bulk selling/buying maps, especially 8 mod maps and T17s. I have recently sold my 20 ziggurat maps for 120c each and I just realized that i could have sold them for more. Also thank you for the alternative lacerate build, this is the first time I have been able to get out of my "freezing pulse totem shell" and try another build for the first time in 4 years ❤

[@subtractem]

Love the warcraft pfp!

[@therealsketchh]

I buy over 20 div of t17 per day. I pay 1 div per zig map add me

[@MikeSakaru]

A good place to start for bulk selling anything: Use Awakened PoE and make sure you select a high "Stock" count. That'll show prices from people who have a lot of stock of the thing they're selling, so you'll be able to get more accurate bulk prices. Then just remember the first few are always price fixers, and pay attention to when prices start to "even out." As that's likely the real bulk price. Wealthy Exile is also an option now days, it works like the trade site but for bulk stuff the trade site doesn't do (and for % prices based on market value, rather than you selecting a specific price.)

[@semihamf1385]

Just right click on ziggurat map tab and enter 1 divine. People will message you sooner or later.

[@Tomzkk]

I'm sorry to hear that. Hopefully you get better soon

[@MrPsykopeta]

00:17 oh well, if steve is right under 19k then the filiming is close to our timeline lol

[@campd73]

Thank you so much for this Atlas planner. I'm relatively new to PoE and this is the first atlas tree guide I've used that made a HUGE and appreciable difference to the drops I am getting. I tried following countless other guides but would not have the same results. This is the one. Thanks again.

[@matijatrajkovic6496]

I legit dropped 4 valdo's puzzleboxes from a single box following this guide, so thank you

[@philophobic8023]

pretty easy way to maximize your t17 sell price is just list the t17 public at 2 div and every couple maps put just one chaos on each of the maps , some people have perma running live search for specific regex for t17's and i made like 300 div extra this way so far (also if you get insta like 15 messages just put /dnd and check the map cuz some of them sell for even 4+ div)

[@Shanopla]

great tip ty!

[@ajHikaru]

Wait why would they buy it at more than the suggested price? Is it because the maps can roll high on more currency/scarab/maps thing or the mods?

[@philophobic8023]

@@ajHikaru that + combination of mods , people Pay well to be lazy

[@ajHikaru]

@@philophobic8023 ty :)

[@Shanopla]

@@ajHikaru probably that and a combination of modifications that are easy enough for them to run my guess is certain modifications that are harder give you more rarity and quantity so getting combination of high desirable effects and low undesirable effects is probably hard to achieve

[@Pipnotiq]

Boss dropped 4x House of Mirrors off pilfering strongboxes, it can be cracked. I dont even want to continue because i wont top that ever lol.

[@knotesoft]

Peak of aRPG game design... Opening boxes

[@Goldern]

Peak EA games, lootboxes are all the rage

[@x710xTitan]

plz make the video on bulk selling maps 3 leagues in and the inner secrets to the trading site is literally like the content in Juns forbidden vault; nonexistent. Spill the beans please!

[@totallynottrademarked5279]

Be a streamer and have people buy stuff off of you. Or sit around posting in TFT and PoeExchange and never get a single whisper to sell stuff in bulk.

[@ajHikaru]

@@totallynottrademarked5279 it's pretty fast in TFT tbh, just need a big supply and/or something with huge demand 😅

[@CodexGB]

@x710xTitan - Try WeathlyExile it's super easy to do. and sell fairly quickly. t17 sell almost instantly with 130% increased value set (around 1 divine per map)

[@Dane_law-t]

Yea the discord is probably where most people are..I buy off the bulk site when I do buy..but also can't figure out how to list there :/

[@TheAdsfasdf4]

To help with the Amber, you can cast enduring cry and the enemies will attack you instead of the tree.

[@user-ll4fl9cf9i]

So I tried this out a bit and I gotta say, it seems like the Beyond doesn't do much. Like 90% of our profit and gold is coming from the strongboxes. It's good but the beyond doesn't feel like it adds anything edit: in fact I tried dropping the beyond and just doing cartography and you still net roughly the same gold (and I am able to clear about 2x as fast because no beyond mobs)

[@Waggabagaboo]

Beyond kinda sucks. Honestly I’d focus on beyond boss portals for the tainted currency and not for the generic mobs

[@user-ll4fl9cf9i]

@@Waggabagaboo I actually got a good amount of tainted currency from regular mobs but honestly I think the beyond bosses would slow this strat down too much to be worth

[@KevinWatt13]

@@Waggabagaboo Tainted currency is cheap this league too, I'll try putting those nodes elsewhere. I wonder if ritual is worth much gold...

[@IEgOImkAwx]

@@KevinWatt13 I would avoid ritual with boxes. For my deck farm it works well because it's dropping 20+ more decks a map for me.

[@sneakyfart1337]

thank you man, was looking for a good strat and this works pretty well

[@colehalvorson1307]

I would love to see a vid on how to bulk sell maps!

[@Waldoz53]

i had a double divine drop from strongboxes a few days ago and its a hit of dopamine to the brain that just feels different lol

[@matijatrajkovic6496]

Great strat. What I love about it is that I can actually get enough xp to lvl up, compared to the rippy Ritual strat I was running (that was also killing my PC). I dropped 4 Valdo's puzzleboxes in a single map the first day I tried this :D

[@mrmozao]

you know subs is cooking, when he takes his time to upload something new. and its always worth it!

[@josephsmith7023]

I'd personally drop one of the ambush scarabs for the deli scarab that says "maps drop with layers of delirium." I farm all my 8 mod maps with layers of deli.

[@CrystalStearOfTheCas]

he has an empty slot anyway

[@kkplx]

The issue is you don't want more than 1 layer for most builds, so you brick some maps.

[@ajHikaru]

@@CrystalStearOfTheCas it's for the map...

[@Theevilrhino]

Have you tried doing this? Do people still bulk buy your maps with delirium or does it make it harder to sell the maps😊

[@josephsmith7023]

@@Theevilrhino I usually run the maps myself or chuck them at my runners if they have mods I can't do (no regen and reduced flask charge gain - coruscating elixir build).

[@xXDEUC35Xx]

I would love to learn how to bulk sell maps. I've always ended up with more maps than I know what to do with, but never knew how to price them properly.

[@darthj_der7447]

Thanks dude! This is sweeeet! Like a catfish doin the backstroke in a kiddie pool.😂😂

[@KevinWatt13]

I've been blasting strongboxes for the first time this league, having a blast too. Twist of fate + vaal temples is sooo fun with this. I love alva so added that instead of some of the beyond and +map tier. I leave out the 8-mod scarab for a 15% reopen chance (it feels higher?) and run another strat to generate the 8-mod maps

[@touchmygoat4908]

Oh Baby, new player here been trying all the strats, first run 2xdivs and 2xValdos. Im hooked...

[@ITAngel]

Thanks for sharing your strategy, love the explanation. 1+ Sub

[@GankoInitiative]

Thanks for the shout out Sub :-)

[@madhatten5123]

This is the coolest version of lacerate I’ve seen Sub. GGs

[@gcpa7539]

Does it matter to get those nodes "T1-15 maps have % chance to become 1 tier higher" even if you have the 4 voidstones?

[@BigDogHaver]

Yes, because behind the scenes the game still calculates when you would've dropped a map lower than t16, and that contributes "points" until you hit a cap, dropping a t16 when you otherwise wouldn't have

[@hiddenpixels9558]

if i'm running strong boxes... do use magnum, or blue steel?

[@arckmage5218]

I've been playing this build. Thank you for the guide, btw 😁 I've found harbinger very good for gold.

[@namakak]

Awesome vids again, learn a few tricks And yes, I'd love a video on how to bulk sell maps specifically :)

[@ThePhillShow]

4:35 dude I'm losing all my free time to Deadlock too it's SO GOOD

[@jimmyg3005]

Wouldn't this also make all the T17 map drops you get corrupted 8 Mod maps?

[@seikojin]

Blightheart blighting is noms.

[@Kozlack]

your scarab setup in the video is different from the maxroll guide you linked

[@nostradame60]

How to counter with -'monster have 300+% critical chance' and -monster have #% physical to elemental damage' in map mod. I always get one shot by them. I have 4k hp and all elemental resistance capped at 78%

[@subtractem]

The defense you have listed is the basics for roughly late white maps. You need much,much more for juiced red or purple maps. Crit immunity, spell suppression, evasion, armour, damage taken as, etc. Many layered defenses are mandatory for modern end game Poe.

[@sedateisland1419]

Oh gdi on the quality for dust. I've just been corrupting them thinking it helped lol

[@imover9999]

I may be wrong, and I'm sure you know way more about this game than I do, but when I had singular focus (different atlas) I was not getting any T17 drops at all. I looked online and saw others saying it prevents t17s. Took the point out and started getting a decent flow of them. So yeah, it's wise to avoid that point for sure. Even if it only reduces it, it must reduce it but quite a large amount.

[@subtractem]

Correct, you should not use singular focus. It reduces the dropped T17s by 24% or so.

[@xenoaurora]

Something seems broken with the atlas you linked, I don't see any of the shrine nodes, and you take the quant nodes through the middle but the tree has you pathing outside when I look at it.

[@subtractem]

I don't have the quant nodes in the middle. I double checked the link and it looks fine to me.

[@RIPFPSDOUG]

This was my atlas for a bit. Dropped beyond and just added more modifier bonuses and blocked a few mechanics. The beyond mobs arent profitable. Im convinced the beyond mobs dont count as packs for the map. I don't focus maps though. Just massive SB's rarity scarab and deli my map for divine. I clear 7-9div an hour.

[@UschiGlas-nl9qq]

Video about Bulk Selling/Buying : +1

[@Metallian2112]

LET'S GO STEVE

[@hristokaishev4665]

no joke, did about 20 maps - 0 tinks :d

[@beefchampion2792]

Thank you very much for sharing your tree! Why don't you have Fiendish Opulence picked up from the beyond passives? Isn't it worth using for one extra point?

[@jammuu]

Great strat! Need to try it!

[@Beardymanlol]

Kinda weird, I ran 20 8-mod strands and gave this box variant a shot and went negative entirely, and saw no div or valdo's and maybe got 1-2 t16 mans per run and 2 fortress. RNG?

[@subtractem]

20 maps and not getting a single divine, valdos, and only two T17s is incredibly bad luck. Make sure you don't have singular focus and that you have all your voidstones.

[@subtractem]

For example. Here's a pic from the discord of people sharing their results and having a great time with it: i.imgur.com/rP2Y5Zw.png

[@Beardymanlol]

@@subtractem yea, it's all set up properly, just hilarious rng. that said i was wrong about going negative. Still havent seen any div or valdo's but its like +9.6div/hr in bubblegum even being unlucky and that of course accounts for the ~60c cost per map

[@Beardymanlol]

@@subtractem One last update: first divs on map 37, started on strand with apothecary, and worked in jv with brother's gift. It feels like jv gets more out of beyond so I'll probably target jv. Also, strangely ive seen only 2 fortress and 0 abom so I might just go singular cause stocking up on sought after maps will help the sales with this rng :P

[@MyNameIsSalo]

@@Beardymanlol you feed undesirable maps to your atlas runners. not worth taking singular focus

[@BigDogHaver]

my 2nd map I dropped 2 puzzle boxes lmaooo, even that tink aside what a fun ass atlas

[@lordofchaosinc.261]

Without the operator strongbox (scarab one?) it's not the same for me. I always start with this but quickly found that "revives with onslaught" is an instakill after you open the box a few times or even nearby boxes. The screen just freezes for a second and it's over.

[@aLiveKidz]

looks fun i'll try that ! thanks

[@Square_nothing]

What exactly does he mean when he says "unique to dust" ?

[@dionje5TV]

At the highest tier of disenchanting you can disenchant uniques and the amount of dust they give at base depends on their rarity, some uniques only have worth because they give a lot of dust. (Also you can quality items to get more dust, once you unlock that of course, only worth it on armour and weapons though)

[@XplicitContent94]

you can get additional strong boxes from the niko nodes btw

[@foodforthegods]

Farm-newbie question here; I thought the big Quant circle in the middle with its little brother inside would be more or less mandatory for strats like this. Is there a rule of thumb on when to take those nodes? And just to throw out a guess, are you not taking them here because Altars tend to have quant as one of the upsides?

[@CrystalStearOfTheCas]

@subtractem since you have an empty map device slot, you should run a beyond scarab to free up some atlas points for more quant

[@samgreen8582]

Your build is awesome, but this is my problem with strong boxes, nothing drops but crap, unless your specifically looking for maps I guess...

[@Senny_V]

Uhhh... maps sell pretty well, by the way. If you are undervaluing maps, that's on you.

[@sunderdance]

just got an apoth dupe after running this strat for a while off a diviners on summit my league is saved!!!

[@1984WillC]

im respeccing my tree right now

[@echoheadxx]

I'm a vet in game but I know nothing about POE exchange so that would be interesting

[@illfate757]

Completely off topic but do you think cold Reap occultist is still powerful.

[@GOLDWYNPRICE]

I dont know man, been running this strat for some hours now, with scarab prices its like 200c to run 7-8 maps and all i get is 8 mod maps and bubblegum currency. Feels like a hoax

[@akutooth]

Why not use scarab of potency?

[@Mallows_28]

maybe its with the loot filter of the build I'm using but tried the strat but all I'm getting are bunch of divination cards

[@subtractem]

You should be getting tons of divines, valdo boxes, And t17s if you're doing this properly.

[@dimensionaldot]

What effect does higher tier map chance have when you have full void stones? Does it affect what maps drop based on their natural tiers? And if so how would that affect T17 drop rates? Edit: realized it probably just map equity in which case, nevermind!

[@JezzyHsu]

More chance for a map to be promoted to T16 means more chance for the map to morph into a T17

[@jaymesgraham1013]

prices skyrocketed for everything on this build lol

[@benbroeckx1905]

What build are u? Can it do all content? Pretty tanky? Can use mageblood?

[@alexgabriel5877]

yes how to sell maps and heist contracts would be nice :) somehow I gathered like 500 contracts lol

[@Dislukee]

i would love a video guide on how to sell 8 mod maps

[@KarLitoDE_TV]

The Nodes with "Maps found have 15% chance to become 1 tier higher". There is highlighted "Tier 1-15". So my question. Does it count for T16???

[@c-tothefourth4879]

Not directly

[@dansopel335]

No, but that's why he explained that the roll for T16s to become T17's comes after the tier is decided, so the more you have being upgraded to T16s, the more chances you have for T17s.

[@KarLitoDE_TV]

@@dansopel335 thanks. didn't get it while listening. so if a map t15 would drop it could become t16 and THEN it could be t17?

[@dansopel335]

@@KarLitoDE_TV Yeah exactly. That's how I understood it at least.

[@MiiTsY]

does item quant from altar not affect strongboxes? If yes, isnt it better to clear map first?

[@blackjackbob3]

Hey all. Love the content as always. I need help. I was on console (yes, lol) but i can now start on pc. But i am a month late. Hiw would you all suggest i get into the league starting late? Ia there a build of the league or anything i should play? Mever started this late (usually would have quit by now but this has been the most fun league, maybe ever so want to play more. Thanks in advance!!

[@elsiecharlot]

some of t17 maps are corrupted, should i take off corrupt strongboxes to avoid that?

[@subtractem]

Naw it's pretty rare in my experience

[@andrewmccann2296]

Does carto scarab of corruption also corrupt t17 map drops? I've realized all t17s from carto strongboxes are corrupt, which are a disaster to sell..

[@Comuniou956]

its because the cartographer strongboxes are corrupt.

[@Mazeingpower]

good vid

[@TheThornicator]

Not sure what is different, but the atlas + scarabs that are linked in the description don't really match up with what you've got in this video.

[@ThePainqT]

What is the easiest t17 map to do , looks like i need to unlock the 5th slot for that .

[@subtractem]

Fortress by far

[@VortexMagus]

Fortress by far. Just toss in random ambush scarabs, take strongboxes, scarabs, shrines, and map modifier on the atlas tree, roll it with some chaos to avoid scary mods, make sure to chisel. Boss stays in one place and all you gotta do is dodge some lasers and flame dash/blink/leap slam out of his slam.

[@Gid-J]

3:42 You want 4% ajacent map over 6% scarabs?

[@subtractem]

I don't really care about scarabs here

[@davidmaltais2912]

Scarabs isn't important for strongboxes .. it's pure currency and div cards

[@SuperArc13]

Please make vid how to bulk sell corrupted maps. I have too many

[@Comuniou956]

isnt it pretty bad dropping corrupted t17 from the strongbox?

[@alexriemer6476]

The 8 mod corrupted scarab doesn't corrupt the t17

[@Comuniou956]

@@alexriemer6476 no but the cartography boxes are corrupted. so all the t17 dropping from carto are corrupted

[@zmattchiasson]

Those boots specify elemental ailments, so you're not getting the aggravated damage, right?

[@subtractem]

I use artic armor chilled ground to proc it

[@zmattchiasson]

@@subtractem ah sick, thanks.

[@damonblack1495]

I feel like I have tried so many different strats this league and been having a hard time finding one that I can handle for more than a couple days. The problem with this one is having to use tft or some external resource. I've used tft in the past. Absolutely hate it. Selling things on it is total cancer.

[@num2007]

could you share an atlas with red exarch instad of blue?

[@zackiz]

The atlas you show in the video and the one you linked are not the same. Which one is it?

[@zackiz]

I copied the on from the video, works like a charm. Great xp as well if you arent 100 yet. Thx for this!

[@xanosche]

bro wtf happened my fortress maps were like .7 a few days ago now their a div? what happened to zig being the best and being .9

[@chrispierce1454]

Wish console had so many fun tools

[@madhatten5123]

I got two divines altars this league one at the very start of a Jungle Valley and instantly a double basic currency altar…. Ended up with 44 divines the most I’ve ever gotten from an altar by far. The second one was lame only 6

[@larracis]

I got 2 raw divine alters. And a boss drops 6 divine alter.

[@kari_on_fire9996]

I've had zero. Big fat zero.

[@madhatten5123]

@@kari_on_fire9996 I hadn’t had one in almost 3 leagues doing tons of blue altars every league they are very rare.

[@madhatten5123]

@@larracis that 44 Div one was insane. I have the “divine orb” voice on my loot filter and he couldn’t even finish saying it before another two, three, four nore would drop. Dopamine overload.

[@larracis]

@@madhatten5123 I never thought to put a different sound for divine drops lol. I hit the alter three times total, think the most I ever got was like 19. 44 is wild

[@AlphaKappaRon]

where do you put the last 2 atlas pts

[@num2007]

is it me or you barelly made a profit on that map?

[@subtractem]

This was an example of a low roll map. I opened up the video showing a high roll.

[@jordanmessec5332]

Cheers

[@KotaruSintoma]

Do you have a map you prefer running on?

[@num2007]

why does ur atlas says scarab of escalatio bu in the vidoe u using scarab of corruption?

[@subtractem]

I'll clarify in the description. You do want corruption most of the time but escalation if you want to focus on t17s.

[@ReeferSmoker]

what build are you running

[@itscout594]

What build is this? Looks solid :)

[@subtractem]

My leap slam lacerate gladiator. Build guide last week

[@VoiDukkha]

shaping nodes dont increase t17 drops? description says its only up to T15(+1)

[@matthewalvarez6884]

T17 only convert from t16s that drop, so that's why you're wrong.

[@jdRamza]

Shaping nodes = more t16. More t16 = more chance for t17.

[@Kevfactor]

Is it even worth investing in alters if it bricks your maps?

[@subtractem]

why would it brick the map? just dont click on ones that you can't do. build choice is very important here but if you can't click on red or blue altars there are likely things you can do in that regard to have a stronger build.

[@Kevfactor]

@@subtractem I usually get by the skin of my teeth on these maps 16 and 17 so like all of em but like 2 are usally are pretty rippy for this noob hehe. the double downside node i realized i can skip though so makes it a bit better for the rips. I think like Sap and no crit strikes is about the only ones that don't make things harder so idk i skip the mechanic most of the time to try to level past level 96 one day hehe :)

[@subtractem]

Things are definitely much spikier than they used to be. I'm pretty spoiled this league with Gladiator defenses. Been struggling to make another build that feels as good as that one. Honestly just recommend trying that out if you're having an issue in regular T16s.

[@Kevfactor]

@@subtractem Actually I use bleeed gladiator lol. The class is good, i think im up to about a million dps, and even takes hits well even in t17, but for some reason I just randomly die every now and then out of no where even in t16s with no alters. of course im sure i made a mistake somewhere.

[@Eqnotalent]

Please make a video on selling 8 mods. I have over 1000 8 mod maps. With public selling quad tab no one wants to buy them.

[@Firasgamer69]

MAKE A VID ABOUT POE EXTCHANGE

[@user-oq6el6ru2x]

I was just about to buy the containment scarabs after they finally almost got to 1div for 1 but now it's back up thanks a ton for making yet ANOTHER useless video on strongboxes telling us what we already know UHHHHHHHHH

[@enjoythelegend]

lmao this vid is almost 2 weeks old the fuck are you talking about. he doesn't even use containment scarabs

[@IEgOImkAwx]

Simple calc. If scarab prices are too high for avg return avoid the strat.

[@kkplx]

It's a shame it' so damn expensive to run each league.

[@MyNameIsSalo]

how is it expensive if it makes you money? its for profit, it doesnt cost anything. Expensive is like making a build or buying challenges, but doing a mapping strategy that profits you cant be expensive by definition

[@PringlesCan-y7m]

what's the point of this vid if the prices skyrocketed and we can't really use it?

[@subtractem]

Knowledge? Also this won't change prices at all. This is already a meta strategy...as I said in the video.

[@MyNameIsSalo]

mate people have been spamming this since literality 10 hours into the league. Box scarabs are more expensive than any other common scarabs by a lot. Always been like that. One video cant change that

[@charlesiphone5765]

Are u related to Mark Wahlberg lol?

[@luqtiz1]

Rip prices i guess

[@subtractem]

No, this is already a meta strategy.

[@ReeferSmoker]

prices have been the same since the start of league

[@samgreen8582]

With a 150c worth of scarabs and a 90 c map ya they are...

[@subtractem]

???

[@RichardCMongler]

he shows buying the scarabs in the video my guy, they were 0.313 divines at the time of the video when 1 divine is 144c, so about 45c on scarabs, not 150c. He used a regular t16 8 mod map, of which multiple dropped during his run and they only cost 10c at most anyway.