I'm Back to HotS!! Azmodunking is As Fun as Ever

[@shanemoody529]

God I wish blizzard would support HotS again. Easily the most fun moba I've ever played

[@panbaiye]

It’s had a few patches recently. It’s been getting more than 0 support lately

[@anthoniebouchard2448]

Hopefully Microsoft will

[@Squashylemon]

It was fun but, way to simple of a Moba that's why it failed.

[@panbaiye]

@@Squashylemon if failing is objectively becoming the best MOBA, then I guess yes that’s the reason 🙄

[@Squashylemon]

@@panbaiye It was a boring Moba that couldn't stand up to League and Dota because it didn't have the same complex concepts for the gameplay. Blizzard is a shitty company these days but, HoTS failed because it wasn't competitive enough in terms of what you could do with the heros.

[@fletchthebirb]

I'm so happy to see this. I play HotS almost every day, and it's kind of like being in your own dark corner of gaming in a game that doesn't get attention or updates. You could very easily have done a "return to blizzard month" without including HotS and it wouldn't have mattered to most. But when I saw it, I was so excited. I knew you were gonna play Zagara and Azmo haha. Thanks so much, and take your time learning the little details. There's lots of backseaters, but you only get to learn a character once.

[@byronavihai3787]

Best MOBA by far: amazing hero design, team xp (which encourages teamplay), fun side objectives, superb and varied maps, short games (no games that drag for 1h), and a possibility to come back from a bad start if the team works together really well Such a shame that the game never blew up

[@panbaiye]

There’s been recent balance patches, even without those, it’s still objectively the best MOBA

[@draakisback]

Biggest problem with this game was always the lack of snowball and player expression. Being somebody who really loves dota and always plays solo, I just never got into this game because of that.

[@Assywalker]

No, team XP is really what holds this game back... There is just no way to ever have a match where the best player can truly carry and that is just a big L.

[@Chubbajawa]

@@draakisback Player expression is on the talent system rather than buying items. This makes the game way easier to balance.

[@draakisback]

@@Chubbajawa except it doesn't really work that well. In Dota you can have a carry that has started to snowball meanwhile the enemy team can completely destroy them if they have enough mechanical or strategic skill. In HoTS, your team snowballs rather than an individual player which means that many of the games become extremely one-sided.

[@NotTheWheel]

I love Hots because it actually does so many original things with the Moba idea. I cannot understate it as being a classic and fun game. It's competitive but not sweaty. Every character feels pretty good. Games are quick - I also don't stick with it a lot but it is a blast. Favorite Moba by far.

[@kamikeserpentail3778]

No, it's as "sweaty" as anything else. Just that the skill floor is nicer, and the skill ceiling less boring.

[@thejubbinator1065]

"There's no turret ammo anymore?" It really has been a while Day9

[@kiloneie]

Thank the esports push blizz did, that's why that is gone, and many other "casual features".

[@marcocapitani4474]

@@kiloneie I would not describe the turrets having ammo as "casual". I think it rewards methodical and efficient play, like clearing your wave 10% faster with a burst of structure damage after 2 minutes. While right now it's just like 10 damage to the gate and then waves reset. In fact, it being one more thing you have to take into account macro-wise or you lose a fort out of nowhere feels the opposite of casual.

[@ramstab]

I was about to say the same thing, last i remember they had ammo

[@kiloneie]

@@marcocapitani4474 Well i wasn't describing them as "casual", that's what Blizzard advertised the game as. Maybe the game is a bit more casual, but really all of those features were just great quality of life features. No i don't want to spend ages learning to last hit, when that means learning all the projectile speeds on ranged champions, when the damage will be enough to kill one, the items modifying that... that is literally hundreds to thousands of hours to properly learn that in such a way that it ceases to be a problem. But when you can't do that well, you can't do anything else well, because it's taking just so much of your focus away from NOT getting ganked, actually playing the game for fun as in fighting and winning etc. And they decided to erode such features(not last hitting, that they improved further, by making it less punishing to miss collecting exp there). The game is actually more hardcore than league and dota2 is. It demands to be constantly moving around and skill shotting, positioning etc. While in those 2x games, that is FAR reduced, because grind your ass last hitting/micro managing minions and their gold income -> mundane non sense everyone has at work already. The only reason those 2x games work as much as they do, is because of superiority complex, people love doing well in a game they mostly suck at. And then people say that HoTS prevents individual skill expression. Yeah sure buddy, Alarak doesn't exist does he ? Nor does absolutely circling your opponents and killing an entire team with the likes of Valla, Hanzo etc. There is so much individual skill expression that it's insane. But they don't know it, because they suck and never gave the game a chance because Blizzard advertised it horribly and then instead of improving it, worsened it. TL DR The game is probably more hardcore than any other MOBA out there, but you can't tell because that is NOT how it was advertised, which was terrible and not enough people played, or cared after shuting down the forced esport of players that were hired to play pro, instead of players loving the game, then going pro. That esport had no life, and so the game rapidly declined after that forced nonsense was removed. The game would of been just fine if they didn't say they won't support the game like they did, and if the esport was actually organic and not forced.

[@Trazynn]

Removing the turret ammo is actually a nerf in disguise. It used to be that waves upon waves would pile up on depleted towers, making it easy to reap their xp infrequently. But now that the towers don't ruin out of ammo, they can waste all that xp before a player can get to it. This means lanes have to be managed more frequently and it's not all about immediately brawling in the middle.

[@joeblow2069]

Thanks for playing this bro.

[@qpSubZeroqp]

I have been waiting for this since he started doing the Blizzard games tryout

[@justinwalker4037]

Seconded! I think its rad that he would bother to play hots. Proves that sean is the man.

[@XIIIX_0]

Finally HOTS!!!! Still love this game.

[@Phelix22]

The fact that the phrase "Yah Avoozl" was spoken in this video literally made me go back and play all FIVE Quest for Glory games...because that was my childhood! Seriously...thank you GOG 🤣

[@joshfatal]

God love you. I missed this game so much and it warms my heart to see there'll still people keeping it alive.

[@mohamaddelkhah]

"Is this a bad idea?" * Drops Demonic Invasion on 1% enemy core about to regenerate its shield * I laughed so hard it still hurts! XD

[@justinwalker4037]

1:21:07 once you have the exploding lazer at 7 you do press Q first E second (place E on the center minion). The Q will put them all to near death and once the minion being lazerd dies, the AOE damage will clear the rest of the wave. When done this way you will find it much quicker to clear the wave, and you will get all the stacks in the wave when done correctly. Hope that helps if you play again! Edit: 1:35:23 NVM you got it XD!!!

[@kamikeserpentail3778]

I would solo lane vikings. Totally doable against most heroes. To me the RTS experience is all about positioning, and prioritizing. Vikings just go heavy on the positioning aspect of micro, like I did with my Zergling heavy starcraft play. But the most complete RTS experience in my opinion comes from abbathur, If you blame him in the way that I think it's the correct way. That involves switching Pat targets like every 4 seconds rather than just sitting on one person. Spreading mines out rather than clustering them all in one spot. Positioning your body aggressively so you can soak experience while objectives are going on and maximize locust timer. Last hitting may not usually be necessary, but there's still some aspect of it. Certain character talents benefit from it, and last hitting can remove the need to physically go get XP orbs which can make rotations quicker or make laning safer.

[@dfg12382]

Much more fun than clicking mobs for 20 minutes just to get oneshot by a fed Irelia.

[@KnownAsKenji]

I feel that. People called it the 'Smash Bros of mobas' partially jokingly, but Smash is popular partially because it just does things other fighters don't and is more enjoyable to some for that, so yeah, I think it's got that Smash spirit.

[@JimmyStruthers-lb3sn]

Skill issue

[@dfg12382]

@@RealEuropeanPatriot Nope, HotS has stopped development because Blizzard can grab more cash on other games while Dota2 and LoL are their producers main cash cow. It's so weird that people can't see this crystal clear correlation.

[@flaviodelhusza8320]

"Hey, you wanted to play a 5vs5 team game with heroes with unique abilities? Here, do this tedious minigame that makes no sense for 20 minutes and if you are lucky you can finally start playing the actual game and your actual character." Meanwhile in hots: If you dont go 5v5 on level 1 ur a pussy.

[@kamikeserpentail3778]

Yeah, I much prefer HotS. In Dota and League low levels you have 1 skill, and mana is very limited. So you're not expected to use your abilities on minions or towers. In heroes, you can throw out all of your abilities a couple times before you run out, there's still that pressure to be sparing with your abilities, but it's not so restricted. I also really hate the idea of a carry. In the other mobas, if you pick a specific character and go in a specific lane you expected to just be stronger than everyone and carry your team to victory. It neglects the fact that it's a team game. And if your carry sucks, your team is basically fucked. In heroes you can carry as a support, not by being overleveled and over farmed but by being more skillful. I would argue there's higher opportunity for more fun skill expression.

[@drocksaint]

DAY 9 PLAYING HOTS WHAAAAAT you're the best, I'm going to DEVOUR these vods lmao

[@KnownAsKenji]

Always wish he gave it more of a shot, felt like he dropped it real quick despite loving every moment he was in it. Similar to Dota, there's a lot of subtleties and interesting things to consider for playing the game more seriously and long-term, including optimizing the Azmodunk if that's your thing.

[@mahockey3]

HotS is the best MOBA and it's not close. I despise how badly Blizzard mismanaged it.

[@dmitryhookins4654]

The big problem is camps and tournament matches are really boring

[@angamaitesangahyando685]

01:11:00 I love HotS, but how is Day9 lacking the geberic RTS reflex to Shift-queue commands? And that is a setting in Dota2 (which does make it one of the most customisable games, admittedly). - Adûnâi

[@georgplatzer8213]

"There is no turret ammo anymore?" hahahahaha. Damn it was a long time ago you played this awsome game!

[@kamikeserpentail3778]

I still miss the ammo. But I also kind of miss the random weather events

[@anikolaidis]

This is the game! it drove me a bit crazy how he was almost actively avoiding taking regeneration globes!

[@kamikeserpentail3778]

Can't complain about there not being last hitting, while ignoring a more fun laning skill mechanic... The one that encourages players to not sit back like bitches just poking minions from max range all day

[@Opno]

Hell yeah dude, love this game. Still playing it on and off with friends

[@Applestoroger]

Dude! I love hots, I hop on some arams every now and then and queues are still quick!

[@kiloneie]

Thank you for reminding me to visit this game again after so many years... first game mvp. Hail to the highlord.

[@tbcfrankee]

I'm so happy to see Day9 playing this! Khaldor and Grubby must be so excited. F*** Blizzard for abandoning the game due to corporate greed.

[@hemmydall]

As soon as I see Azmodan I instantly hear "arrogant Nephalem" in my head.

[@Kassidar]

Day9 on the 3rd game: >Reguards a regen glob "is this like a health potion?" >Continues to ignore them thereafter

[@qpSubZeroqp]

I have so much fun watching you play HotS!

[@TheCHEESE333]

Hands down one of the most fun games ever!

[@bigmanspook]

Wish my friends weren't already so into League so that we could play *this* all the time instead. Leoric is my favorite MOBA hero ever omg. The death mechanic is so much fun, man. So many fun heroes in general, honestly. Him, Uther, and Medivh were my perisnal top 3. Even when I lost (unless it was a total stomp where I can't even play lol), I was still having fun.

[@Savvasthekiller]

Man i miss this game so fcking much! People give Blizzard a lot of shit, but i personally will never forgive them for pulling the plug on this game, it was by far the most fun MOBA out there!

[@blakephotographytexas]

It still is, and they have been doing some patches lately. Can always still play

[@JimmyStruthers-lb3sn]

Why do you need to be so vulgar ?

[@Blackbaldrik]

​@@JimmyStruthers-lb3sn Did you really just go on the internet, and ask someone in a KZbin comments section, under the video of a streamer who casually curses very frequently, to be less vulgar for using two swear words? 😂

[@Blackbaldrik]

@@RealEuropeanPatriot Judging by your pfp and name, you're either a troll, or a literal N@zl (or both). Regardless of which, your opinion can be fully disregarded.

[@vexienroe]

them never clearing creep on a nydus zagara was driving me fucking insane.

[@bibity74]

So happy to see you playing my favorite game since SC2. Are there vods of you playing it in the early days?

[@CAPTAINCHAOS_]

This is still around? Wow. Awesome!

[@proddreamatnight]

Let's fucking GO dude this game is all I've been playing the last 2 years

[@kurtstar5425]

watching these globes disappearing just beneath your feet - truly frustrating experience !

[@ButterButNotCookies]

1:50:39 IT IS DEHAKA! SC2! YOU FAILED US DAYNINE!

[@MyManMako]

Finally back to the best MOBA ever, you handsome bastard

[@villefere6968]

I miss this game, I played in alpha

[@wernerlindorfer3693]

Just install and play it.

[@bigmanspook]

hell yeah alpha profile icon gang

[@megatron1384]

Been playing consistently since 2017. Almost lvl 300 Butcher. Love that very low tier monster

[@DCAMM720]

Makes me sad they aren't continuing anymore content for this. It's one of my favorite MOBAs and deserved more players

[@DCAMM720]

@@RealEuropeanPatriot I disagree about it being garbage. I'm glad they tried something new and unique in the MOBA space. The focus on different maps and cool objective play was kind of refreshing, and with the reliance on items removed and focus on builds instead was wonderful. As a result, it was the most fun in the genre imo. The issue is the virtual monopoly LoL and Dota2 have on the market. Why play anything else when 90% of MOBA players play these two games? It's happened several times now when studios try to make something new instead of the normal slop that League/Dota players take every update simply because these are the games to play. Oh well. Game is good and I had fun during my time with it. Back to the same old same old with the others I guess.

[@DCAMM720]

@@RealEuropeanPatriot I don't really care about consensus, and I doubt 1% of MOBA players ever even played the game to have the experience to even have a valid opinion on it. Sounds like you have it figured out, though. Maybe you should head the team that made it and make HotS great again, lol.

[@DCAMM720]

@@RealEuropeanPatriot I haven't even disagreed with anything you're saying, I've only said that I think it was a fun game and deserved to be supported more. Obviously monetarily that didn't make sense for Blizzard. You're arguing with a brick wall. I'm glad you feel so passionate about hating on things, but maybe spend that energy enjoying some games instead. Now if only Blizzard could make a good RTS...

[@DCAMM720]

@@RealEuropeanPatriot Ohhh you're trolling. Thought we were serious for a moment. Yap yap yap

[@kurtstar5425]

>Day9 makes build to fully split push >Half of the game figuring out what buttons do >partakes in teamfights instead of push >Using ult to deal dmg to heroes instead of destroying keeps >"I'm not doing this build anymore"

[@UnownXYZ]

Ragnaros "Do the thing I want you to do" Also Ragnaros "Dont tell me what to do"

[@Heresor]

Meanwhile your perception about the worst thing about this game (the lack of last hitting) is why I prefer it over any other MOBA. Not only allows it me to not be overwhelmed by the game, focusing on hitting the enemy, hitting minions, not getting hit by skill shots, keeping my distance up; I also like to play supports and tanks, so it frees up more of my brain to actually play my champion and help my team mates. Do I take care that someone soaks the lane? Yes. Does it have to be through last hitting? Absolutely not. I feel so much more impactful in HotS, because I'm not behind everyone else in XP and Gold just because I play a role I actually enjoy.

[@BrendanBeckett]

Dang I might need to crack out the ol' Sgt Hammer. Haven't played this in over 5 years

[@shanedestroyer]

i used to love playing this game, good times. probably still would if i could get friends to play with me.

[@bancai1517]

HoTS, such a great game. Was fun to watch ty Day9!

[@whiteorangesportster]

Many people refer to hots as a dead game. I prefer to think of it as undead. Glad to see you back in the nexus!

[@stagtite]

Hots has some of the most fun characters ever. I have played a lot of league, and I still assert that the least fun character in hots is significantly more interesting than the most interesting character in league.

[@5chr4pn3ll]

I forgot how fun this game was.

[@quintensteffens1942]

Hi Day9, I think Cursed Hollow is the only map you can play until level 75 (in quickmatch)

[@Aaron537_UNIQUESTRING]

I had no idea you played hots man. Love this game

[@Squashylemon]

I won't lie I forgot this game even existed which makes me sad because I used to play this when it first came out.

[@Rudepetsclub]

God I miss playing Garrosh, one of my favorite heroes of all time.

[@cocolana4687]

Loved watching you play HOTS !! Merci jour neuf

[@kurtstar5425]

If 'm not wrong in dota u must set option to make right click to not interrupt tp. At least It was like that before, mb now it's a default option.

[@DaKloneLiving]

Hey @day9TV - What do you use to record? I've been using NVIDIA experience, but I'm curious about your setup (:

[@kurtstar5425]

Guy in a chat who said him to use Q than E - you are good.

[@MaiBoA38]

How did he only get cursed hollow? Is that a "welcome back" training thing, or dumb luck?

[@onkelpappkov2666]

The former. Putting newbies on the closest thing to Summoner's Rift so they don't get overwhelmed by the 14 or so fundamentally different battlegrounds.

[@AverageSilenceEnjoyer]

Day 9 plays hots, a delicious delicacy.

[@dawinchhi]

Hearing Azmodan talk about TRIBUTE makes me want to play SOLIUM INFERNUM!

[@Jhamantheshaman]

love ya day9. love Hots too

[@thaddaeusareswolf]

Day9 refusing to pick up regen orbs is super triggering for me. He's complaining about mana and its like just pick them up you dingus.

[@razzed1310]

Every second game I played of this at least one of my teammates would go full tilt then just throw. Uninstalling this game was the best mental health move I have made in years

[@tsalbeci]

Kinda fun see Day9 play a game he is horrible at 😊

[@8thlvlMage]

"Kinda fun to see Day9 play a game that isn't Starcraft." 😄

[@Squashylemon]

When I saw Hots I thought he meant Heart of the swarm at first lol.

[@sseetthh]

hots has the best kit design of every MOBA and its not even close

[@Morgan_Black]

First of all, I fucking love seeing Day9 play Hots, still the most fun Moba out there. Second, how the hell did he manage to only get Cursed Hollow? What are the chances??

[@onkelpappkov2666]

100% because putting new players on Cursed Hollow was an early design decision. It is the map that most closely resembles other mobas' layouts and playstyles. The idea was to ease the transition.

[@Unga_Bunga]

What aboot Day9 going through his most favorite funday monday videos and maybe talking about the SC2 scene that was taking place during the time those videos were recorded? Something like that? Pretty please?

[@Tyrgalon]

Azmodan and Tyrael where my go to heroes when I used to play the game.

[@KnownAsKenji]

I was a Lili guy who did dumb very-non-healer like dives with Kung Fu Hustle (getting hit twice basically clears all of your cooldowns, leveraging that to go near-invincible with heals and hopefully not over-extending), fun derpy build.

[@AtrociousNightmare]

Watched it live, loved it! What a great game

[@MTweedC4]

Asmongold introduced me to your channel and im ever so glad he did! Very pleasurable stream/vid

[@DazedandInsane]

Had to re-download. Havent played this in years

[@xianritchie]

Dirty secret, none of the people who get the acid joke have done acid either :D

[@kamikeserpentail3778]

I was curious to try it, but then my fool of a cousin let me eat a 50mg weed muffin as my first experience. And that felt near mind breaking.

[@joshybgoode]

Demon Lt. is global and can soak exp, so you can join your teammates when they need you. 😅

[@Mrlaged]

I do not Miss waiting 20 minutes to load into a lobby to have somebody drop out immediately

[@GregCandel]

HOTS LETS GO!

[@jasonweibel9107]

Dude we still have a group of 4 guys that runs HOTS once every week. In the year of our lord 2024, haha.

[@kamikeserpentail3778]

Envious. None of my friends played it for long, so I kind of fell away when they announced they were done with new content. It was very fun

[@CenJohan]

I don't think this is Heart of the Swarm. I mean, I see Zegara and Abathur, but something seems off.

[@fixcon46]

Wooo lets go

[@michaeltelaak1452]

Love HOTS!

[@tekamer6566]

i sometimes wonder what wonderful things would hots have released if not for it being stalled this way

[@DavidTomasini]

The nostalgia thooo I remember slaughtering teams game after game with bullshit Nova and the stealth assassin dude with the stasis ultimate XD

[@missbelled6700]

Phantom Lancer is SO cool, man.

[@rdmctague]

I should spend some time in hots, I have been playing a ton of League and could use a more low key experience.

[@Wywern291]

The idea with talents like greed vs gluttony is that azmodan is already a monster with pushing lanes, so the idea is focusing on getting stacks from enemy heroes as well as improving your damage to them will allow azmo to have a big impact on teamfights as well, and won't fall behind on stacks by participating. He does this so well in fact that he is arguably the most broken hero in ARAM, where he is able to constantly farm stacks from and heavily damage the whole enemy team.

[@Mene0]

Absolutely love Hots. Unfortunately I can't support Blizz anymore :(

[@Kalleosini]

I haven't supported blizzard since diablo 3 released. yet I play this game on and off every year. blizzard doesn't support hots so I don't see me playing their only good game since starcraft 2 to be a support of blizzard, more of a spite really 🤣

[@Squashylemon]

Can we get a world where Starcraft, Diablo, Warcraft, Hots and hearthstone were still as popular as they were when they came out?

[@guilhermemarquesfenstersei3720]

1:10:45 god damn that game was intense

[@wer227]

God i love(d) jumping around with orphea...

[@rukinohi]

I like that even HotS has a better client than League 😅

[@kurtstar5425]

Master of Destruction - op to clear waves and gain stacks.

[@UyeGaming]

Hots is soo fun.

[@Massacr3_RC]

Heroes is still a banger, loving the wow and heroes content

[@Randomluck]

Perfect timing! I need a new MOBA after LoL forced us to install Vanguard.

[@Erbmon]

I have not played this game in years it still pains me to see how he never uses e when someone uses his CC and its in mele range

[@scottburgessmedia]

Wait, didn’t Sean have a tough time w edibles where he couldn’t stop "wiggling"…?

[@MalRabbit]

wait, what year is this? LOL

[@scoobs06]

Sub'd for hots content, love watching people come back to this game

[@freekingfreaking246]

Why does he always get cursed hollow? So many cool maps

[@onkelpappkov2666]

New accounts in Quickmatch play on Cursed Hollow to give them a static background while they still figure out the buttons.

[@Sinthioth]

Welcome to Cursed Hollow

[@infinati]

This game still exists?

[@colinpritchard2067]

More of this!!!

[@devanwc23]

Always love me some hots

[@slowbro-]

Yessssss ❤❤❤❤❤