I'm changing all the thru hulls, but how to get them out?

Removing the 27 year old thru hulls is a shit job. Would be better if I didn't have to change so many, but thats what you get with an older neglected boat. Watch to see what happens when I call in professionals and the bring a SAWSALL to attack the hull! I'm definitely not comfortable with this...
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Epidemic Sound
00:00-1:00 Intro
1:00-3:23 How to tell if they're bad
3:23-5:01 Removal (take 1)
5:01-8:29 Removal with a SAWSALL
8:29-9:36 Holding tank is FULL!?
9:36-10:15 Outro

[@SailingTalisman]

But did you hear how solid that hull is? Good job on getting them out, and I think the value of having big tools around like the mini sledge and chisels was shown. It sucks about the blackwater hose, and I'll tell you now that you will hate life unless you find a heat gun to have on board. The black PVC hose will be suspect and and white PVC hose won't be that far behind. But warming up the plastic first will allow them to release rather easily. I've seen a lot of rusty hose clamps and a bunch of single hose ones. Two in opposing directions is the typical way to go (as you know). You're kicking ass and I'm so impressed.

[@michaeljohnstone9371]

James , I just replaced all thru hull fittings this year on my C&C 34 and replaced them with Tru-Design glass reinforced and epoxy sealed developed in New Zealand , available in the USA you will never have seized valves again and no corrosion issues again fantastic product

[@rev.jimjonesandthekool-aid4488]

There is a way to use a wet tshirt as a large pipe wrench. It can be tightened just beyond fingertight. We used to use a wet cloth to remove old oil filters when stuck.

[@SB-nt9fp]

That's an insane amount of through hulls. I agree, WTH Oyster? OK get cracking James. ;-)

[@dickdueck6537]

The most important lesson I learned while rebuilding a 50 year old Cal 246 was..."Do it right or do it again" I applies to everything on a boat every time you do it. Love your enterprising attitude. Cheers, Dick

[@psystealth]

good job James....better safe than sorry

[@rowey7777]

I was telling a sailer mate of mine about the effort to replace the thruhull fittings. He said it’s real easy! Drive a block of wood into the fitting. Get a holes saw that is the closest to the thread size of the fitting. Centre the hole saw in the block of timber and drill out the thru hull. Perfectly clean hole. No damage. Upsize or get one with Larger flange. He said it takes a couple of minutes to do!! 🤔

[@th-h6224]

I faced the same problem with my tiny Nordship 808, the solution was as simple, that the job finally took me 15 min. for 5 thru hulls. After having tried with spanners, chissels etc. for hours: Having grinded off the outer lid as shown in your video I used an electric jigsaw with a longer iron blade, cutting each thru hull 4 times from the outside (not too deep, so you don't get intothe fibre glass). It was very easy with a screwdriver and a lesser hammer to hit the split thru hulls from outside in.

[@kz4506]

The pink is the bad stuff so replace but we found most ok well done keep going so pleased I be came a boat builder we don’t stress or panic , we just do it , but good your on to it , it will be afloat in no time , when you going to antifoul Ready for the water and this is a top boat bro

[@mp6756]

Good move replacing them all. You will sleep better knowing the holes in your boat won't sink your boat. I like the format of showing as your going. Thanks for sharing

[@stevejette2329]

Headed north from Puerto Vallarta to Sf, broke a motor mount bolt. Nick had to make a bolt FROM SCRATCH from a steel rod. While bouncing on the water.

[@rev.jimjonesandthekool-aid4488]

Good luck to you my friend.

[@williamlarkin1503]

I think Sally Is Right James you need to hire a little project kit or something to get that thing out

[@vincentwesolowski459]

Great video. UGH...... There must be a formula out there where you multiply the length of the boat by a factor that determines the amount of maintenance and money needed to maintain a boat every year, every five years and every ten years. I only owned a 17’ Scout, bought it used and in decent shape but wow, there was work that needed to be performed every year. Not to mention the improvements I put into the boat. I’m anxious to see the procedure of sealing all of the through holes. Take care and stay healthy.

[@MegaTriumph1]

Now your rolling. One step at a time.

[@Tulasendlesssummer]

LOVE the new intro!!! 👍👌

[@thelastpirate]

Thanks guys! 🤘 Love you two!

[@tarivard]

When I bought my Tartan, they shipped it to my house with a full and leaking holding tank that had been sitting on the hard for 5 years. They trucked it 600 miles to my home and did a great job shaking up the tank. It was the first thing I tore out. Gross. My grass loved it.

[@lowellmccormick6991]

The grass is always greener over the septic tank.

[@belledetector]

LoL

[@richardgooding498]

That must have been a shatty situation. Lol

[@svlulalime9293]

Keep it up!

[@richardgooding498]

I would fix or replace anything and everything under the water line definitely. Nice boat james

[@unclebob6728]

Everything on your boat is broken. You just don't know it yet!

[@RiverWoods111]

There is always a time to hire a project! Personally, I am thinking that holding tank might be one of them! Bleck!

[@davidfrost1428]

It gives me a warm feeling to see those through hulls changed.

[@StephenWalkerAhoy-Boats]

That's just a ridiculous number of thru holes! In my Catri 24 hydrofoil stabilised trimaran there were none until I put one through myself for a forward looking sonar. Maybe I didn't even need to do that. But then we had to have a portaloo :-( But thanks for sharing your experiences. Insightful.

[@sailingalcanzar]

If you grind off the outside flange you could just use a pipe wrench to loosen the inside portion of the through hull by turning it until the glue breaks..

[@sailingviews4056]

I Fing love it

[@benjaminrhodes9611]

Oh joy! This looks like so much fun. Good progress James.

[@toddwhite3217]

Put a water hose in the tank bottom ,turn it on to get all the air out of the hose, then un hook it from the faucet . It will syphon all that crap to the outside of the hull without having to touch it...

[@RenegadeADV]

Through hulls are always a pain, I think with those I would have just stuck a bar inside of em and wallered them around till they came loose since you already went to the trouble of girding the external flanges off, everything holding them was sealant unless I was seeing that wrong. Something tells me you will be putting a valve right where the discharge exits the tank this time! 🤣

[@edwardparkhurst9804]

What an absolutely amazing adventure you have us on that watch your channel. Outstanding job sir. Thanks for sharing your life and times with us that are your fans. Well done.

[@nigeldent3330]

I would carry some firefighters hose bandages for a temporary fix to a poopy leak like that.

[@SirMo]

I watched you since your first video. And then I took a break from sailing videos for awhile. Just went back to see what you were up to. I'm catching up in chronological order. So glad to see you're on your new chapter. Your videos are so much fun and so entertaining. Thank you for showing us all this stuff!

[@duffman825]

Great progress! You got this!

[@mojoneko8303]

Replace those through hull fittings with WilCox Crittenden bronze 1/4 turn seacock's. They are bullet proof.

[@keithmurray5791]

A dremel multitool might have cut through that brass? Pretty good I'm guessing!

[@treychum]

This is my new favorite channel on KZbin!

[@navigatingel6104]

This has been real informative thank you

[@jorgelsanchez4388]

Another job off the list.Well done!!! 💪🤙

[@jonmitch7058]

awesome videos keep them coming! much respect fro you!

[@dukebass4564]

Hell yes 👍 this is your perfect opportunity while in drydock to replace all through holes. You’ll be back in the water with satisfaction and confidence, knowing you did a thorough and complete job.

[@nelsonfarya]

I cannot stop enjoying your videos entry!! Keep safe.

[@albanoabrantes8265]

Yep replace all. In the future you don't have a problem with that.

[@JasperJanssen]

Not for the next 20 years, anyway. You’ve got good access right now, and everything is easily gotten to, and all the tools and consumables are right there. It’d be pretty silly to save a couple hundred bucks only to have to do this again in three years. (Not to mention if a couple of the fittings are a different thread to the rest of them, yikes)

[@lowellmccormick6991]

@@JasperJanssen James, listen to Albano and Jasper.

[@p.t.anderson1593]

A leaky, sinking, boat is like a house with a leaky roof. If either one leaks enough, or at the wrong time/place (which it will, according to Murphy) whatever's inside isn't worth jack didley. Replace them all while you can!

[@itsmePassportBro]

I would make 3 hoses into one thru hull and glass the other holes shut... less thru hulls cheaper and safer...

[@Boomskee]

The level of irony here hurts.

[@shadygrovesailing1157]

I am was going to wait and change out through hulls on my WestSail 32 .. good FYI on the discoloration of the bronze.. this video made me change my mind..My next boat for sure.

[@chuckfowler8875]

I'm sorry that happened to fast was that little turd that came out of that hose from that tank in the head cause I'm sure that just made your day....God bless brother hand in there....your knew subscriber and hopefully your friend.....Chuck F.

[@williambremner9022]

Oh man that's gotta feel good! Onwards and upwards now. Awesomeness!

[@joerocketgsxr]

Really enjoying the new content!!

[@johnbolongo9978]

James is on determined dude......gotta tip my hat to this guy.

[@xpresident]

Oh man! Not a full poop tank! That sucks

[@guymorton2327]

Change them all dude. It'll give you peace of mind

[@hanssolo4ever]

I just replaced my discharge for my toilet, 1 1/2" bronze with Marlon fittings. No more corrosion.

[@jessiebrader2926]

James, the through hole fittings are made of brass, an alloy of zinc and copper. Electrolysis leaches the zinc out of the brass leaving just copper, the pink colour. Make sure the new fittings are well connected to the bonding strips. The best method is soldering, either the actual fitting or the valve you screw on. See if you can solder a wire on before you instal them, that way you can get them hot enough for solder to flow. After instal you can extend the wire to the bonding strip. Have fun, wish I was there to help. Aloha, David. PS I sail out of Honokahau, I know you were here last year!

[@TOMVUTHEPIMP]

No they are not made of brass. The fact that you think those are brass tells me you need to stop giving advice because you know nothing.

[@jessiebrader2926]

@@TOMVUTHEPIMP I know nothing?? I have sailed over 100,000 blue water miles.. How about you? And since you know so much what are they made of? Or is it you that knows nothing and just likes to make ignorant and insulting comments?

[@TOMVUTHEPIMP]

@@jessiebrader2926 100,000 miles? Hahahahahaha!!! Just stop it Popeye. That would mean you have circumnavigated at least 4 times. Id bet you have never been on a boat.

[@jessiebrader2926]

@@TOMVUTHEPIMP You would loose the bet. I have delivered other peoples boats around the world most of my life. Multiple trans Atlantics, so many Pacific's from LA to Hawaii. On and on, all documented. Yes I do know the pointy end from the blunt end. Whats your experience sunshine or are you so full of it your eyes are brown?

[@TOMVUTHEPIMP]

@@jessiebrader2926 LOL Yup. Popeye delivery Captain with 100,000 miles watching beginner video on replacing thru hulls. LOLOL....sure...sure...

[@BijanIzadi]

Fascinating watching boat work happen, so interesting

[@jetdr77]

You need an impact gun and socket for that looks like an 1 1/4

[@MrJeremy22lee]

I have always followed your videos, but only recently have I started to put them ahead and watch them before all of my other channels I follow. I love what you are doing and I am excited for your adventure.

[@stephenmurray9850]

Wow James, are you thinking of glassing some of those through holes ? I mean , you really have to wonder why Oyster used so many? It's pretty crazy .. They could have used a sea chest and cut down on the number of holes in the boat..

[@theslimemolds5099]

So satisfying to watch all that pink popping out. I have this coming as soon as we buy our boat. 🚢

[@joem3556]

One of the best channels!

[@rukpeterson7301]

Love your music!!!

[@maus0292]

Replace all and you will not worry about them. That boat sat too long. Better to be safe. Plus get a good high powered and volume emergency water pump. . I would even redo the hole for the depth finder or transceiver. I watched several videos of boats that had hoes break on thru holes or cracks and were saved by a good high volume emergency electric pump. It will help you clean that bilge.

[@edl617]

Enjoy your vlogs on your Oyster 485. A real eye opener for me since I am planning to move up from my 22 foot day sailer to a much bigger sailboat

[@operator0]

After seeing so many sailing VLOGS where the owners spend a year+ and 10s of thousands on refitting their used boat, I've been trying to figure out if I can just get my 25 foot C&C to the point where I can at least sail her around the Caribbean.

[@boooshes]

Did a little poking around - usually it is brass that dealloys (dezincifies) but nickel aluminum bronze can lose its aluminum and cause failure as well. I'm guessing these were brass and not bonded. A call to the boat manufacturer would be interesting and informative.

[@Andrew-ww7qq]

I think you mentioned the hull is 100% glass and no balsa/foam core right? Just a reminder that if it has a core you need to chisel away some of the core inside the hole and replace it with resin to ensure there can be no water penetration into the core before mounting the new fittings.

[@michaelsenior7858]

If you are going to buy a boat that's been neglected for the last three years and you are going to spend quite a lot of time and money on this is the one to buy ,I think you got lucky expensively well made and built like a tank ..just the type you want instead of a cheaply made poorly put together beneteau, especially if it has a broken back .( I think most people know which channel and boat I'm talking about ) ..the one where you get silicosis just by watching....😳.

[@stephenmurray9850]

yeah I do, been watching them try to fix it.. I don't think I would be buying a Beneteau any time soon.

[@richardpickersgill3434]

@@stephenmurray9850 which boat is that, got a link?

[@stephenmurray9850]

@@richardpickersgill3434 Expedition Evans. .look them up.. young couple who bought a wrecked boat.

[@marcsmith4999]

sounds like you been down this road before. I just started my journey. 6 years on the hard, started the "refit" in august. haven't spent a lot of money....yet, but lots of time invested so far..

[@joesurfer9754]

I really like your channel direction dude. Your new boat is Awesome. After you bought it I did a lot of research on that particular boat model and they are bad azz boats dude.

[@dropthatfone]

Beginning at 6:45 there is just over a minute of tool sounds that have a musicality to them that really compliments the track. So cool!

[@jamesrhodes6462]

Perfect Video Progress that’s what we want. Everyone Subscribe. He should have a million viewers. EX - NAVY Skipper. Let’s do it guys!! Go Go Go!!

[@shadowofpain8144]

Glass over about half those holes, and share the rest, will be safer for the kind of travel you do. Stop to repair above the line bad leak. That many below would be concern, you have more experience than me and might be able to live with what I would not chance.

[@venomguysydney]

Maybe look a seeing how many of these are actually needed and then seal a few up ? What too many holes in a boat

[@charlie6751]

Buy yourself a cordless hackzall James

[@jeremydelerocha6275]

Like removing a pvc solvent joint. You cut 2 sides. Heat it a bit and hit. Comes right out. Again....just need a plumber. Very much like making a transition from galvanized to copper. Allll day. Not a crazy thing to do. It is often.

[@frankferris300]

When you do not have a bonding wire to each metal under water piece going to a zinc plate the Nickel in the bronze leaves the metal and it becomes brittle

[@brandonlerman1540]

I would go with Forespar Marelon no corrosion issues and can handle a 500 pound side load without cracking.

[@armslength2618]

No. Nickel is one of the noblest metals and does not dissociate. Monel (nickel and copper) is one of the most stable and strongest metals as a result. Zinc in brass however dissociates, and that's what we're seeing.

[@frankferris300]

The Nickel atoms are what the electrons remove from the Bronze through hulls .They turn pink and fail monel shafts also fail if you do give it Zinc to sacrifice. Fiberglass is called E Glass because it will conduct electricity. I am truly surprised a supposed quality boat like an OYSTER HAS NO GROUND BONDING WIRES OR DIVERS ZINC PLATE.WHAT ABOUT LIGHTNING PROTECTION I HAVE SEEN NONE ON THIS BOAT

[@frankferris300]

I have been building raceing and cruising sailing vessels for over fifty years both in fresh and salt water , doing repairs to Lloyds and ABYC Standards .I have seen lightning blow holes in boats bottoms and engine blocks when it has no clear dedicated path to ground. No arrestor on the mast head.Shafts snap and fall out at sea. Heat exchangers dissolve from hot water heater elements going to ground. Reverse polarity destroy through hulls from house electricians working on boats thinking green is ground not bonding wire. Hooking. a/c voltage to lightning or galvanic bonding wires. I have forgotten more then most of these book learned so called experts ever have known.Marine surveyors take an open book test pay 500 dollars buy A moisture meter and a hammer. Then charge newbies real money take pictures do an inventory write a report with a disclaimer and create a hazard to lives. You only know what you have been taught and if you do not read the correct books you are a danger .Going to captains school and doing real sea time are two entirely different things. The fact these two people took a home made plywood covered in fiberglass catamaran all over the oceans was GOD having other plans for them. I watched a custom built one ton split in half from gunnel to gunnel when the owner pumped up the hydrolics to much. At 15 sailing the Port huron Mackinac race in 76. Good luck and fair winds .Life rafts are worth the money EPIRBS save lives. When I started ocean sailing loran was new. GPS did not exist Paper charts and a magnetic compass with a back up hand held bearing compass, sun shots and star shots Need to be taught to all Mariners.

[@travelwithus750]

Really enjoying your videos bro. Really like all the insight to the rebuild. I’m not a sailer but love the ocean and anything nautical. Think I’ll stick with the old adage the best boat to be on is one tour buddy owns lol. Safe travels bro🇺🇸

[@frankferris300]

You could have vacumed the holding tank out into a shop vac and dumped it before it filled your bilge .which you will now smell forever until you clean it all out.

[@doug1030]

At least you know when to quit . What a beautiful . Hope you have great journey

[@robertottwell605]

Don’t forget to eat your shrinking! Great job your project videos are the best.

[@telecaststrat]

James did you try to replace those thru hulls with stainless steel , should last longer

[@b-manc9224]

Would be awesome if you were mentioning how much time they spent, how much the charged per hour etc at the end of the day if someone is watching a video on thru hulls we're going to be keen on knowing - Cheers James

[@TheDkolack]

Great New Intro. Keep Going FWD Brother!!!

[@unclebob6728]

It's called a saws ALL for a reason! Not saws some or saws most, it sawsall!

[@naturesjourney6574]

Look at that thick coreless hull !!!!🥰🥰🥰🙉🏴‍☠️😍😍😍

[@operator0]

It's an Oyster!

[@unclebob6728]

The first fiberglass boats were non-cored and were overbuilt to a fault. Some solid FG hulls were 1" thick and strong as a tank! Go Zingaro!

[@operator0]

@@unclebob6728 Oh yeah. Back in the 60s and very early 70s those boats were overbuilt because fiberglass boat building was new and no one really understood how much fiberglass was needed to make a strong boat, so they just threw a shit load of fiberglass on and called it good. Alternatively, as the gas crisis of the 70s got worse, some boat builders started to skimp on resin and/or fiberglass, and it's not uncommon to find boats from that time period where they were built super fragile. Many boat builders refused to compromise, but many others did. Moral of the story; do your research when buying a boat.

[@jacquesleroux5882]

Not sure how you see that in the footage; an over-drilled hole would have been lined with epoxy or glass to seal a core if there was one, before imbedding the TH. However, judging by the age of the boat you're probably right, as they used to over-engineer boats in those days.

[@frankferris300]

If you use a heat gun the 5200 melts and then push right out easy

[@TarpeianRock]

We have a saying here that owning a boat is like having a big hole and endlessly pouring money in that bottomless pit. Basically the sea is a very, very, very hostile environment for everything man made. Consider this : it takes a fulltime, dedicated crew of mechanics and maintenance guys to keep a commercial freight ship running. If anything, anything on a boat is not working at 100% of it’s intended use you can be 100% sure that it will fail you 10 times faster than you ever imagined. An obsessive attention to detail is a life saving necessity when you’re running your own ship : James I feel your pain.

[@mutt1112]

Bring's back Memories of old, the days of cleaning out, CHT Tanks.

[@jayp.1455]

Since the valves are presumably the same age, if a few of them are bad, the others are probably going to go bad soon. Therefore, I think it would be wise to replace them now when the boat is on the dry. A breach of any through-hull can sink a boat!

[@svamour4574]

Just discovered your channel, great job, very informative. As a sailor I appreciate it. Question, I was watching Delos channel and Brian said the Amel only has one thru hull that is used for intake. Have you thought about using the Amel system for thru hulls?

[@leifsteinar9056]

Here is how to get out old throughhulls: From outside knock in a conical wood plug and saw it off flush with the outside. Then use a holesaw with the same diameter as the new throughhulls and saw out the old through hull, fixing the center drillbit in the center of the wood. Not more than 5 minutes per through hull.

[@jiefflerenard1228]

Great thinking,to bad it wont work will go sideway and take hours

[@agentofart5425]

Replace them all!

[@JakeHolman78]

I would fill in a lot of those. Some sailboats that size, like the Amel, I believe only use 1 seacock.

[@multihullminion9201]

Improvised puller out of some all thread, nuts and some scrap steel helps for jobs like that as well. Having a couple cut off discs a prick punch and a small drill set helps a ton to make up a puller if you think you’ll ever need it. But yah those guys did a pretty darn good job. Grinding the flanges off was a big part of the job and no doubt made the rest go quickly for them.

[@anniesauvee4159]

James, do you know about TruDesign skin fittings? If not, do yourself a favour, they are bulletproof.

[@berndm9743]

Did you try to find a shop somewhere there that may have had a socket to fit those large nuts? Just wondering? Those guys did a good job though.

[@joelw2023]

Great vid once again. Yeah man, call in the reinforcements when the labor gets intense. Smart move bringing in the guys who have removed more than a couple of through-hulls in their time. Make sure you have your sonar plan in place as you're putting the new through-hulls in. Even if you're not refitting any new transducers right this moment if there's a chance you'll add forward looking sonar in the next couple of years get a fairing block in place now so you can add the transducer without a haul-out.

[@JosephMullin]

PB Blaster is a penetrating spray that will loosen things up. spray let soak 5 minutes spray again wait 5 then try.

[@trumpetmano]

Not much on a boat stands up to a good hammer and chisel.... or a Sawzall.

[@waynep343]

I wonder if the bronze corrosion is caused by impurities like lead added to the bronze making it easier to machine. Water faucet manufacturers did that for decades without telling anybody till somebody tested the brass because the water kept testing high in lead levels. So recycling brass faucets could be contributing to the failure rates you are experiencing. Or they added lead directly to ease production on their tooling.

[@guy.h]

dezincification the zinc leaches out of the bronze, like an anode - the pink is just the copper left behind & copper thru-hulls are no good to anyone!!

[@johnnyh3451]

Glad I sold my boat this year. I'll do it again as soon as I forget how much work it was.

[@kadammikkelmus863]

Close all thru-holes with fiber glass. Start all over with new. Do not drill 15 holes here and there. A few is enough with new valves. Brass ... plastic valves are cheaper and ok. I have used pro plastic valves and brass thru-holes. My boat have 3 holes.

[@anthonyzky5667]

Hi James, what brand/model sunglasses are you wearing in this vid? Teebsz

[@TheLooseConnection]

Dude your intro is to long. but love it's just you now

[@pisscat101]

For peopke wondering why bronze turns pink. The pink is the copper left behind when it has become dealloyed or dezincified. The fitting or whatever it is will become brittle and can fail.

[@armslength2618]

Not bronze. Modern bronze has no zinc.

[@pisscat101]

@@armslength2618 How old is the boat?

[@MetalDetectingwithCZkidd]

Yep, I got to a point in my life to where I said, life, time to start paying for help. When I ran out of cuss words, then I knew.

[@RomboutVersluijs]

Better safe than sorry right! I mean whats the price of new brass parts vs the complete boat plus gear?!