I'm Flat Out Worried - OneTigris Scaena Backpacking Tent - First Look at the Cosmitto Replacement

OneTigris has been working hard on a new version of the Cosmitto Tent and this is what they have come up with.
To be honest, I am EXCEPTIONALLY WORRIED....
This might have been a huge mistake.....
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OneTigris Scaena Backpacking Tent - First Look at the Cosmitto Replacement - Preview
What it is :
My friends, what i have here is the Scaena (sky-n-ah) tent from OneTigris; remember the Cosmitto tent that I reviewed previously? If not you should check out my videos on that tent as it was a very interesting product; it had a lot going for it but unfortunately the design of the tent meant that it wasn’t waterproof.
After the testing done on my channel, the company recommended that the Cosmitto be only used in light rain.
How useful is a tent that can’t weather any sort of weather? Not useful at all.
Anyways, after my testing videos and review went up for the Cosmitto tent, OneTigris told me that they were working on a new version of this tent, one that addressed all of the issues that I had and to make a long story short, here we go!
This is the Scaena tent which is essentially the new and improved Cosmitto tent. While it hasn’t replaced the Cosmitto as it is still for sale for some reason, based on what OneTigris has told me, it is the new and improved Cosmitto tent.
Agenda Free Link : www.onetigris.com/scaena-backpacking-tent.html
Colors : Coyote Brown
Materials :
Fly : 20D silicone Ripstop nylon treated with 3000mm rating
Body: 40D silicone Ripstop nylon with 3000mm floor
Poles : 7001 Aluminum
Zippers : YKK
Weight : 5.3lbs
Dimensions :
Stored : 15.5” long x 8” wide
Setup : 6.8’ long x 4.1’ wide x 3.7” tall
Included :
Groundsheet
5 guy lines
10 tent stakes
Poles
Storage bag
Price : $250
Features :
This is a 3 season tent,
2 doors
2 vestibules
Angled poles - 120 degrees - this provides campers with a bigger, more open tent space. Also, it gives the users a better view from the inside of the tent as well as better ventilation.
Fly can be set up with the floor to make a sort of quick setup shelter when the inner tent isn’t required or needed.
Inside Flaps can be used to block wind - this can be incredibly handy in the summer months in certain situations. For an example, lets say that you are at the beach or maybe you are camping in the mountains and you have wind coming in one way, you can setup the tent with the flaps towards the wind so you can control the amount of air flow into the tent while having the benefits of mesh on the other side. It’s a really smart design
Impressions :
Quality and Construction :
Setup :
Design :
Large two person tent
It is slightly heavy for a 2 person tent but it is feature rich
Well thought out stake out points - points on the sides for additional airflow
Cosmitto Tent :
Going back to the Cosmitto tent for a moment, OneTigris really does deserve a round of applause for the way that they handled all of the issues concerning that tent. As a summary, they released the Cosmitto tent, through testing problems were revealed and the company owned up to the issues and made some changes on their web site and also issued a warning - the tent is designed only for good conditions with nothing more than light rain. While they didn’t pull the tent from the market they did make those changes which can be seen on their site to this day.
From Here :
This is a preview of the Scaena tent and from here it is going into testing - rain testing is coming up with a Test Night Video and in also, I will have a video dedicated to the setup process of this tent which will show you how to do both setups that this tent is capable of.
I will be filming adventures with this tent and ultimately my review will go up.
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[@Baddy187]

With OneTigris, I always have the feeling that I want their tents to succeed harder than they do.

[@ArcticGator]

For real, i really wanted to get their backwoods bungalow 2.0 but the reviews showing the leaks was a deal breaker for me

[@Baddy187]

@@ArcticGator Yes, that is a shame. I bought the "backwood retreat" and it is awesome. Works great. But other producs at this point I cannot recommend

[@Funkteon]

There's three kinds of products in the world, and here they are in order of quality from best to worst: 1) Designed in the west and manufactured in the west. 2) Designed in the west and manufactured in China. 3) Designed in China and manufactured in China. OneTigris is the third on that list...

[@cyrilhaessig27]

The Iron Wall and the Smokey Hut are pretty much the only 2 models which get positive reviews.

[@phasmata3813]

It is more profitable for these kinds of companies to just invest in strategies of convincing you that they are caring or innovative rather than investing in actually caring or being innovative. You're just a mark to them.

[@TheePIB]

I think what we're seeing here is tent design by graphic artists, not backpackers … or even people who have ever been inside of a tent, let alone slept in one overnight, let alone relied on one to keep them alive on trail. Like the marketing department took a list of features they wanted to be able to put on the ad, then designed the tent themselves without consulting anyone who has used a tent for more than five seconds.

[@ArcticGator]

im pretty sure the cutting off of a whole half of the tent fly was sime kind of cost cutting measure, ridiculous when you consider how much it costs when you have sub 100 dollar tents with a full and often generous rain fly

[@taterhater7419]

obviously not backpackers. the thing weighes 5 LB.

[@TheePIB]

@@taterhater7419 Fair enough. I hadn't even looked at that aspect of it 😂

[@tplambert]

Don’t blame us graphic artists, this lays purely with marketing and their bullshit ideas 😉

[@emsp8]

Once he got to the point where he put the rain fly on I was waiting for him to add the part or pull down the part with the vestibule. I was kind of shocked that there isn’t one. This thing will leak like a sieve. When it rains and if the wind is blowing the right direction it will hit the mesh, go through and run down the panels that are inside of the tent. Seriously, this made it past their “testing”?

[@just_a_nother_Matt_on_YouTube]

I'm wondering what all is involved with their testing? Do they use a garden hose and a high-powered fan to create wind if nature won't provide it, or did they set it up on a sunny day and call it good?

[@vitaflo]

There doesn't even need to be wind. The front doors are staked OUT from the tent! Rain falling straight down with no wind will fall onto that mesh.

[@judyrobinson9556]

@@just_a_nother_Matt_on_KZbin haha yes!

[@emsp8]

@@vitaflo Agreed. Very poor design.

[@snowysnowyriver]

That brings a whole new meaning to "bathtub floor"!

[@Ian..]

That’s a very strange design departure from version 1. All everyone wanted was for them to make it 100% waterproof.

[@megrim8292]

I bought the original, glad I didn't send it back for this version.

[@lunaticyoshi1]

Yeah, I thought the overall design for version 1 was well received. I'd think about purchasing a fixed (non-leaking) version of it for myself. However, I don't think this design is an improvement and I'd never buy this new revision.

[@danielkutcher5704]

In my neck of the woods, the average local would call it "Wicked stoopit"!

[@holyeti3553]

@@danielkutcher5704 Daft is another way of putting it , wicket daft ....

[@lavenderlilacproductions]

A can of flex seal spray or little heavier fly is all it needed

[@badnewsBH]

I don't understand why the front of the tent, where the fly has been removed, is designed to be staked *out* from the rest of the tent. Won't that expose those centre seams to rainfall even more?

[@ewengillies9826]

Spot on. Bushyboy Oz.

[@soonerfrac4611]

The tent needs a larger vestibule area and a redesigned zipper system. That I think would be spot on.

[@PhotonChief]

Yes, but it seems to provide a small slope for the rain to run off, as opposed to a flat sheet that doesn't direct the water or wind.

[@jasonhaney108]

Where has plain and simple common sense gone in the design process of these tents?? Thanks for your completely honest reviews!!

[@mikeshelton5629]

It'll be fine.......in the desert. Great review

[@trikelife4960]

Oh man, I was getting really interested as you were setting up the inner. Especially when the cross pole went in and you could see how spacious it was. My heart literally sank when you showed the installed rainfly haha. This tent has so much potential! But I just don't see how it could keep a storm out. Even without wind, the rain will most likely get in at the bottom corners of those inner panels or run around the fabric where it meets the mesh and drip inside. Strong winds will most likely push rain right into the tent, both at the velcro'd edges of the inner panels as well as around the tent inner to the mesh behind the fly. A proper vestibule on that side, even if it had a big gap to the ground, would have made this a solid design. I can't wait for your follow up episodes Luke. I really hope this tent is somehow waterproof lol.

[@steventhomas729]

I agree with you about the fly. I've never been camping in the rain when the rain was falling straight down. Blowing wind will cause rain to get inside of the test like you suggested it might. And the Velcro enclosure instead of a zipper is a big mystery to me. Luke, thank you very much for your continued input on camping equipment.

[@susiehamm216]

GREAT video! I really appreciate your honesty! Looking forward to the final tests! We appreciate you and your videos so...much! Thanks Luke!🥰

[@KimberlyGreen]

On the positive side, a re-designed fly would let the other good features Luke mentioned take center stage instead.

[@frostriver4547]

Completely correct. Seems like they just wanted to be different. Will never understand why they didn’t make both door sides of the fly the same

[@johnblaze8092]

Agreed.

[@erikcarey215]

Sometimes I think one tigris is so focused on design and innovation they forgot practicality, but we’ll have to see how it holds up in your testing

[@TYOUNG0168]

Nice Job Luke. Looking forward to seeing the results. Thanks !

[@schulzbrianr]

I really hope this tent performs well, the design looks like it has every feature I could want, very well designed. EDIT: That lack of a fly is concerning....

[@andredeketeleastutecomplex]

lol

[@leorguevara3622]

Maybe should have been a vestabule🤔

[@AJHart-eg1ys]

At the very least, be on the look out for a less expensive Chinese version that has corrected the rainfly issue.

[@casperchung1159]

@@AJHart-eg1ys Wouldn't it just be a regular tent? This tent looks ordinary to me, aside from the fact that they took out the vestibule

[@jameshoover492]

@@casperchung1159 the way the poles work allows for more vertical walls. It should be quite a comfortable interior space.. if its not raining. Additionally, in the right climate, without the rainfly, the abundance of mesh panels will give a better than average ‘sleeping under the stars’ experience. Those are the things I notice which are different from the majority of tents out there. Not to say you CAN’T find other tents with those features..

[@phdeez565]

After watching your review, I would never trust this tent without packing a tarp. However, the inner by itself seems decent for fair weather stargazing.

[@kokopelauwebb5731]

It's cheaper to buy a 2 person bug net if that is what you want

[@forrestgreene1139]

Even though you drive me nuts sometimes, these really are the best outdoor gear reviews on You Tube. Thank you.

[@jodyprivee2774]

excellent video. We have learned so much from you. Keep it going! Can't wait to see further testing of this tent..btw, if I went a head and bought this tent now, I would be sure to use a tarp to cover the fly less area. One of the first things I cleaned from use is to always bring a tarp or two!

[@Mrsandriss2011]

I'm really looking forward for the rain and wind tests for this tent. I know very little about these things but I would be surprised if it did not leak in some form. Thanks for your awesome videos, Luke! Greetings from Roger in Sweden!

[@giftedfox4748]

There is a lot of good design choices that makes this tent very desirable. However, with the possible big flaw of being a bathtub makes me wonder if I need to put a tarp over the big hole. It does seem like a big design flaw with the zippers not being water sealed and just a tiny bit of Velcro.

[@scuba5k]

Oh man, this is odd. I can’t wait for the rain test. Edit: I usually think during these rain storm test it would be fun to hangout with Luke. But I think Luke should keep the truck cab close.

[@ThePatrick42044]

I feel so sorry for Luke. I don't see it going well. Hope he brings a military modular sleep system so at least he stays dry... Lol

[@heathereusden3029]

Thank you for your very thoughtful honest, in-depth reviews.

[@kellybeatty4623]

Thank you for all your hard work. Stay safe. Stay free

[@yoshimasters1]

In this same style of tent while writing. Rained and snowed on us. No leaks. Odd design, but works. Fits two adults with cots. Have not had any water leakage. Two rain storms. We have been camping once a month through out the winter with this tent as well. Held up fine at -15f wind chill. Being able to strap ground tarp to rain fly is hugh plus. 1 person can set up but less frustrating with two. Keep up the good honest reviews!

[@mikeroy6713]

Because I know this channel is the real deal I find myself more entertained by the massive failures . In that regard this tent is a classic and deserves everything it’s got coming.

[@pchelloo]

Keeeep us updated please, Luke. Your unbiased reports and tests are needed and appreciated.

[@bernielamont825]

My idea with One Tigris is that the designers are "book smart" that means to me that they don't actually camp in them! "But they look good, thats all they have to be"

[@slick7209]

I run in to a lot of book so called smart and they have no idea what they are doing or talking about. It would had been a great tent if Luke was on the design board or for sure had input on the new tent then my friends it would have been a number 1 seller

[@phasmata3813]

That's generally the best case scenario for these Chinese companies. It only gets worse from there.

[@stuarthatton1973]

Loved your first thoughts on this tent and i think your right it will leak at some point , im not quite sure what they were thinking not having the flysheet cover the door also , cant wait to see the outcome

[@lindawoods6841]

Your reviews are the best and honest,, I so thank you Luke for the testing of this tent..

[@earlshaner4441]

Hi from Syracuse NY brother thank you for sharing your thoughts and adventures on different items

[@MagicPrepper]

I am flat out worried for you haha! Looks like my search for a budget friendly yet capable tent is still landing on the litefighter.

[@ronaldrose7593]

Hello 👋 Luke, thank you for sharing this informative review. I look forward to the 'rain test' review. Stay safe out there. 🤗

[@jpwhiddon]

Thanks for your videos, and saving us money. Your experience helps us know which items are worth investing in.

[@joshlindsey296]

Thanks Luke for all your information and what you give us.

[@OutdoorsWithCWest]

hey Luke. i just received my Scaena from OT and took it out in the rain. Leaked in multiple areas. just a weird design. You hit the nail on the head with this review

[@baay66]

Just bought one the other day after I sore the rain test. can not wait.

[@livableincome]

Wow. I am so glad there are independent reviewers like you on youtube. Thanks.

[@sammybrown4680]

Really enjoyed this video can't wait to see the full review of this tent.

[@robertwedge6431]

I really want for this tent to perform well, but I don’t have high hopes after the set up review. I can’t see how this tent is going to not leak. Thank you for this vlog.

[@FlyWithMe_666]

OneTigris watching this: “Hey google, what is a “fly”? Hey google, should tents be waterresistant?” Oh…

[@elteescat]

🤣🤣🤣

[@jeremy8715]

😂😂

[@adastra5346]

Thank you Luke. You're keeping these companies on their toes....and providing all of us outdoor people with better products.... you rock man.

[@thistoshallpass395]

My favorite Mountain Hardwear tent had an interior zippered "wall" that covered almost the entire upper surface. It's been discontinued for over 10 years. Wild horses in Wyoming hooved the rain fly made it unusable. Got a great replacement from Mountain Hardwear but have had issue with the lack of interior zip up "rain fly". I've been woken up in the middle of the night with rain setting in and being able to zip up a protective layer until I got the rain fly put up was quite nice. I was happy (yet sad due to application) to see another interior "rainfly" used by someone.

[@RichardHorsfield]

So the tent is actually more waterproof without the inner! I always work to the "keep it simple" method... the outer keeps the rain out so make it bigger than the inner.

[@Cowdog-oz1uh]

Thanks for the great info.

[@MarksShrimpTanks]

The improved combat shelter has internal fly on its large mesh doors and mine has never leaked but then again they are not out in the open so much.

[@KungFuTweety1]

So close... yet so far... they must extend the fly...looking forward to your tests!

[@mikekraut7643]

My first though was that you had the fly on backwards and the open side of it was supposed to correspond with the solid body wall side

[@MrWipex]

Oh my oh my. They made a "fair weather tent". It might actually make a really nice tent/tarp combo tough.... Thanks for an interesting first look vid Luke!! great as always.

[@daadadda]

would that ground sheet stand the test of an improvised tarp I wonder? And how would the bare tent floor perform then?

[@mike_outdoors4918]

Uh-oh I sense trouble, looking forward to the rain test, cheers Luke 👍

[@jacky4u3]

Luke, I would LOVE to see a Haven hammock tent review in the future. Keep the good content coming!

[@MrAlphafang]

Looking forward to the follow up on this Luke. I like the look but if it leaks then in my book it's a no go.

[@marjiecleveland]

Mind blown for sure. I do hope it passes your testing. OneTigris makes really good products.

[@MikeJones-xw3te]

Luke, the One Tigris tent may be new, but in jungle monsoons, hot arid conditions, I've been happy with an OzTrail mozzie dome with a fly or tarp set up. The mozzie dome has 2 zips that meet in a corner, but OzTrail have a small flap of material covering the gap /hole. My whole up would cost only a fraction of the cost of the tent you're trying out. Remember the expensive gear isn't always the best. Good luck .

[@mausball]

That open side is kinda funny. It's a decent idea, but the execution looks extremely iffy. I look forward to a heavy rain test. My prediction is that in light rain it'll be fine. Maybe even medium rain. Heavy blown rain will push through that semi-open center rib. High wind with even light rain will probably soak the inside.

[@brnrecluse2946]

I think you might be right Luke. I think I'm very interested in seeing how it does in a storm. I'll be looking for your review. Strength and honor.

[@OHWRDAMI1]

Luke I love that jacket. Is there a video on that? Thanks for what you do reviewing gear. Love your work man!

[@philiphill1499]

I also agree with randall... companies must take notice....we use these products. We spend our hard earned money on them ! Who better to get corrective coriticiszm from than you. You have tons of experience and it shows. Keep up the great work and videos. Love them all! God bless you and your family...

[@runclimbrepeat]

That "open" side is going to be the deal breaker for this tent.

[@roypaulcarter4654]

Good looking out

[@deepfish4432]

The next expierience! Oh yes yes Thanks my Friend and Friends!😊😎!

[@christopherhall406]

Great video brother that’s bad when a Colman tent out does a 250 tent lol

[@mazdamaniac4643]

I had such high hopes for the Scaena but thanks for the honest review Luke, brilliant as always. Really looking forward to seeing how it fairs in the testing, fingers crossed mate! I've had an Iron Wall from Onetigris for some time now and in all my backpacking trips with it, it's never let me down. Rain, high winds, sketchy conditions, it's weathered them all without any real fuss. I've been hoping for a decent dome-type tent from Onetigris as an option for a while, almost bought a Cosmitto but held off because of the rain leaking issues, now the Scaena. Really got to ask, _what is going on with Onetigris lately?_ Such good ideas, very decent product quality for the price, but also such crazy problems... My questions for Onetigris would be: Why put door flaps on the inside? On the outside would make sense. _Haven't they learned anything from the Cosmitto?_ Most people may be thinking that after the Cosmitto's issues, with their next new tent they'd spend some serious effort into ensuring that it absolutely would not conceivably leak, or place features into it so that you could quickly and easily storm-proof it up when conditions change. _Was it meant to have a roll-down cover for the front, with side zips, that was omitted for...reasons?_ I'd be tempted to add my own out of their 82x67'' footprint, even for piece of mind. _Why is it so heavy?_ Rough and tough is great, but 2.4kg is asking a bit for a backpacking tent, especially for solo use. That reason alone makes me want to reach for my Iron Wall instead simply because it's a kilogram lighter. Yeah as an overnighter, okay, but a solo multi-day trip?...I can already feel my aging knees aching at the idea of it.

[@visnuexe]

I figured it out! This is a great fun tent for a couple to have a memorable adventure where they get rained on in their tents! (Assuming it will leak.) They can talk about how it was for years! LOL. Otherwise this tent is designed for people who don't stay in their campsite whenever they get rain. They just pack up and go home! Kind of typical if you ever camp at camp sites. When the weather gets rough the weekenders get going. Simple!

[@marineshtf9954]

Gotta love those USMC Diamond brand 1 and 2 man tents!😁

[@prmath]

Luke, these companies need to bring you on board as an engineer/tester. I know I certainly would😄

[@Biggrizz777]

I can not thank you enough so glad I watch your channel 😊 I would have made a huge mistake

[@rolling-home]

This shape is so amazing 😍

[@bigjonsadventures9537]

That would be a awesome tent if it had a vestibule over the door to protect it better, with a stove jack in the vestibule for a stove to make it a hot tent ! Then and only then would I pay $250 for it ! Ps I melt homemade fixing WaX in the seams of all my tents as soon as I buy them ! Thanks Luke 4 all you & Susan do !

[@promiscuous5761]

Thank you.

[@allenwegener4798]

I've tent camped since 1968 and had several layouts on different tents. Still have an old coleman cabin that doesn't leak. It gets wet where fabric stretched at the front door. This OneTigris tent would have been an awesome tent had they added a 2nd vestibule. But not this way. Note my old coleman besides having door and window panels inside also had exterior flaps and on real windy wet conditions were very nice to have. HOOKUP THE GARDEN HOSE AND SPRAY the Tigris. YOU WILL SEE HOW GOOD VELCRO WORKS. Maybe set it up underneath an 8 x 10 tarp to keep rain out.

[@theodoredicks3305]

Well I think that there should be a tie off point in the top center to pull the fly out away from the tent front door. Or a flap like what is on the back to protect at least half the front door. That's just what I see. Great video thanks for the information.

[@happyguy61]

I agree it’s quite astounding that there’s no external vestibule and fly. A redesigned fly would make this a viable proposition for sure! Good review Luke. Keen to see what (if any) water ingress occurs in rainy & windy conditions!

[@liamsorensen5897]

I feel like most of these budget companies just make similar quality Chinese made products then change the tent shape and say it’s better. The bottom line is the waterproof rating. The AquaQuest Defender tarp is rated to 20Kmm waterproof. Just buy that, buy a big net and learn some configurations.

[@WardenWolf]

We'll certainly see how it goes in rain. Though, as an Arizona native, I like the extreme ventilation.

[@judyrobinson9556]

I agree with your assessment of the tent. I dont care for how it's made. Makes one wonder how much this company knows about tent making and weather conditions. Good that you test equipment and keep us informed. It will be interesting to see what happens when you test it out in windy rainy conditions.

[@BakerBaker1-9]

Thanks again !

[@michaelzimmerman8959]

Well luke, it looks like they tried, but I agree with you. Thanks for the video.

[@RangerPhantomSAS]

You are right, I'd be worried too. No quality tent would not have a fly that fully covers the opening(s), to keep rain out. I'm guessing when they mean three seasons, they mean in the best possible weather. You would need an additional fly or tarp to keep out the water.

[@BrosephRussell]

It looks stylish that's for sure and size is great just worried about the front being exposed like that 😳 for my area in the Desert it be great as we don't get much rain but still . You never know with weather.

[@jayextarys8616]

I love that brown color!

[@MrTowton1461]

Top marks to you Luke. Tigris needs to pay you a consultancy fee. it's clear they don't have a clue.

[@GruntProof]

"a tent that isn't waterproof is practically useless." Exactly

[@Joe_HamRadioGuy]

That rent looks like a good design. It may be great with great weather. I would like to see it with a better zippered door and a full cover as well. But we will see what happens after your test.

[@donleonhart274]

Always solid-- HOWEVER-- found alot,alot of repeat comments this time!! This video could have easily been cut in half

[@Fishy1764]

Ive gotta say i can see it leaking but regardless of that front the overall colour and shape i like alot.If they put a propper front on it id be very tempted to buy one the quality looks very good. Love the channel and all the best to you and your better half mate 😊👍

[@djn1k]

I have 2 onetigris tents and love them. However this one really misses the mark considerably

[@danieljones2183]

Looks like another tent that could be excellent when used in conjunction with a tarp, but as a standalone product may be somewhat lacking. I'll be watching for the storm testing.

[@smokesandalloy9487]

Just need a tent for the tent

[@iamnobody9542]

They NEED a front vestibule, either an attachment to the fly or built in to the fly. I have a timberline and the separate front vestibule. Works. Love it. There are mods that you can do, like extend the fly farther to the ground. I recommend that you do that. Tape or seal those seam lines, as well. Jerry

[@JJ-JOHNSON]

Thanks Luke

[@mountainson8688]

I LIKE the internal fly for the same reason you do - Air (and heat) control... But the outer fly on that side needs a vestibule. It surely does. Even just for cooking in intemperate weather.

[@briargoatkilla]

If they would put dual vestibules on it I would probably buy it whether it leaks or not. I can always stop leaks myself with a good spray and seam seal. I love the head room inside.

[@Mxp198]

Thanks!

[@TheOutdoorGearReview]

Thank you for your support Mark. S&H - Luke

[@johnniemagallanes3141]

That front door not having a fly is super interesting! Even if it is waterproof I would think that the mesh would get wet and cause issues later down the road

[@nnnnnnnnnick5557]

Looks like it'd do really well in the desert!

[@Kez_abi]

Iv'e slept in a handfull of tents and when you showed this I was like no this is basics! no on more levels than one

[@nc_mtbmedic1399]

Going for the Ozark trail tent

[@willall8103]

Actually i liked the sweater fleece full-zip jacket more, i wished you mention it too but good tent review , thx.

[@ogbobbye]

I really like the concept of this tent and wish they would have put more thought into rain proofing. I would never expect 100% protection in server condition, but in heavy rain and moderate to gust of high winds you need the tent to perform. I'm not like you testing myself in the extremes, but we have all been out when that chance of light rain has turned into a frog drowning down pour with colder than expected temps.

[@ferebeefamily]

Thank you for the information Luke. Yes Sir. I suspect it’s going to leak.

[@mixmediaproductions]

I had an a-frame tent that had an inside zippered panel front with a zippered mesh that was great because the zipper was offset, and the panel was outside. So, you got protected, and only deal was to unzip the mesh to open the doorway zippers.

[@kerrybay7995]

I have a couple small One Tigris pieces of gear (stove, radio pouch and molle glasses case), and they're cool. Not sure I'd get anything as serious as a tent or tarp from them. All seems like 'weekend warrior' type stuff. They do market heavily to the mil-sim crowd.