I'm Happy Apple Is Getting Sued - WAN Show March 22, 2024

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Timestamps (Courtesy of NoKi1119):
0:00 Chapters
1:01 Intro
1:36 Topic #1 - DOJ sues Apple over alleged monopoly in the mobile market
4:14 "Apple Watches can't work with Android," Linus calls bull on this
7:40 DOJ's list of issues, Linus on CarPlay & no interest in Tesla
10:40 Apple's statement, ecosystem & walled garden firmware updates
13:55 Parallels between this & past lawsuits, anti-competitive behavior
17:13 Luke recalls Steam's 30% cut, XBOX games, Apple blocking the FP app
26:51 The knock-on effect, "you want the Apple that's hungry"
32:12 Luke mentions ThioJoe's arguments, Linus hopes DOJ wins
37:20 Luke on Microsoft's AI, discussing monetization
44:35 Topic #2 - The Minimal phone, E-ink display with QWERTY keyboard
46:07 Linus's not a fan of "laggy QWERTY," Dan misses BB swipe navigation
49:10 Luke on YT's recommendations, Linus on "secret meets"
50:24 Luke is interested, app time limits, Linus's product idea
1:04:14 Free shipping on orders with LTT retro screwdriver until March 29th
1:05:10 Tech sack back in stock, MCM ft. Magnets can open a fridge
1:07:32 Merch Messages #1
1:07:40 Has your opinion on DRAMless SSDs changed?
1:20:33 What do you guys think about nonmajor brand GPUs?
1:21:45 Topic #3 - LinkedIn to add games on LinkedIn
1:25:50 Topic #4 - Glassdoor caught no longer being anonymous
1:29:52 Sponsor - Jawa
1:31:14 Sponsor - UGREEN ft. Suddenly, Linus
1:32:53 Sponsor - WhiteFox
1:35:11 Merch Messages #2 ft. Linus struggles to enter the dashboard
1:40:20 How did the GPU pandemic affect the sales of peripherals?
1:40:46 Has LTT Labs influenced your decisions yet? ft. Japan
1:44:44 History of the WAN Show streak ft. "Hospital cam"
1:48:06 What's an appropriate fine for customer data getting stolen?
1:54:12 Topic #5 - Steam Family, play different games at the same time
2:02:38 Topic #6 - Smosh's "Submissive & Breedable" references Linus
2:07:33 Recalling Mome Boys' "Still Beat" lyric, LTT's cultural influence
2:12:02 How does Linus feel about this? ft. Dan's hot bars
2:15:13 Topic #7 - The first Neuralink user can play games using his mind
2:17:14 Topic #8 - Toronto restaurant renames menu to write them off
2:19:18 Topic #9 - Apex Legends hacks players mid tournament "for fun"
2:24:49 Discussing how Baldur's Gate 3 isn't planning to get DLCs
2:28:28 Topic #10 - Flipper Zero responds to Canada's ban
2:29:40 Topic #11 - EVGA PSU RMA kills 22TB over pinout changes
2:33:15 Floatplane "Spring Break" exclusives & giveaways
2:35:36 Luke shows battle paper airplane video teaser
2:38:57 Linus's trip to Japan ft. WAN Show After Dark
2:40:54 Linus went into a packed Japanese train
2:42:15 Luke asks what went good, Super Nintendo World trip
2:45:16 Pokémon Café reservation, Linus on the food's lack of quality
2:48:56 Other cafés & family experience
2:50:36 Linus covers the high tech society, tickets, checkpoints
2:56:33 Linus enjoyed SMW's detail, Luke on signs & his experience
3:00:50 Linus isn't a fan of traveling or seafood
3:01:44 Merch Messages #3 ft. Technical difficulties
3:02:28 Luke on playing Anno 1800
3:05:06 Any proud dad gaming milestones?
3:05:49 Do you see Apple making a Beats-like Android app for AirPods?
3:06:10 How is Microsoft still able to aggressively bundle Edge?
3:06:35 How did you learn to let go of your privacy as a public figure?
3:09:45 Have you found a good wireless solution for the Valve Index?
3:10:18 Anything you or your professor did that helped with Luke's dyslexia?
3:13:58 Thoughts on the many YT scam ads? Should Google be held liable?
3:14:46 Does Linus use Plex? Competitors? Streaming recommendation?
3:16:50 How would Linus react if he caught his kid cheating, V.S. exploit?
3:17:58 How does Luke keep a fully remote team motivated & successful?
3:21:50 Are Luke & Linus satisfied after working on LMG? Childhood dreams?
3:26:12 Linus on cost of things & quality in Japan
3:28:45 Outro ft. Double outro, scenes overlay

[@NoKi1119]

-Timestamps- [0:00] *Chapters.* [1:01] *Intro.* [1:36] *Topic #1: DOJ sues Apple over alleged monopoly in the mobile market.* > 4:14 "Apple Watches can't work with Android," Linus calls bull on this. > 7:40 DOJ's list of issues, Linus on CarPlay & no interest in Tesla. > 10:40 Apple's statement, ecosystem & walled garden firmware updates. > 13:55 Parallels between this & past lawsuits, anti-competitive behavior. > 17:13 Luke recalls Steam's 30% cut, XBOX games, Apple blocking the FP app. > 26:51 The knock-on effect, "you want the Apple that's hungry." > 32:12 Luke mentions ThioJoe's arguments, Linus hopes DOJ wins. > 37:20 Luke on Microsoft's AI, discussing monetization. [44:35] *Topic #2: The Minimal phone, E-ink display with QWERTY keyboard.* > 46:07 Linus's not a fan of "laggy QWERTY," Dan misses BB swipe navigation. > 49:10 Luke on YT's recommendations, Linus on "secret meets." > 50:24 Luke is interested, app time limits, Linus's product idea. [1:04:14] *Free shipping on orders with LTT retro screwdriver until March 29th.* > 1:05:10 Tech sack back in stock, MCM ft. Magnets can open a fridge. [1:07:32] *Merch Messages #1.* > 1:07:40 Has your opinion on DRAMless SSDs changed? > 1:20:33 What do you guys think about nonmajor brand GPUs? [1:21:45] *Topic #3: LinkedIn to add games on LinkedIn.* [1:25:50] *Topic #4: Glassdoor caught no longer being anonymous.* [1:29:52] *Sponsors.* > 1:30:14 Jawa. > 1:31:14 UGREEN ft. Suddenly, Linus. > 1:32:53 WhiteFox Eclipse keyboards & LTT keypads. [1:35:11] *Merch Messages #2 ft. Linus struggles to enter the dashboard.* > 1:40:20 How did the GPU pandemic effect the sales of peripherals? > 1:40:46 Has LTT Labs influenced your decisions yet? ft. Japan. > 1:44:44 History of the WAN Show streak ft. "Hospital cam." > 1:48:06 What's an appropriate fine for customer data getting stolen? [1:54:12] *Topic #5: Steam Family, play different games at the same time.* [2:02:38] *Topic #6: Smosh's "Submissive & Breedable" references Linus.* > 2:07:33 Recalling Mome Boys' "Still Beat" lyric, LTT's cultural influence. > 2:12:02 How does Linus feel about this? ft. Dan's hot bars. [2:15:13] *Topic #7: The first Neuralink user can play games using his mind.* [2:17:14] *Topic #8: Toronto restaurant renames menu to write them off.* [2:19:18] *Topic #9: Apex Legends hacks players mid tournament "for fun."* > 2:24:49 Discussing how Baldur's Gate 3 isn't planning to get DLCs. [2:28:28] *Topic #10: Flipper Zero responds to Canada's ban.* [2:29:40] *Topic #11: EVGA PSU RMA kills 22TB over pinout changes.* [2:33:15] *Floatplane "Spring Break" exclusives & giveaways.* > 2:35:36 Luke shows battle paper airplane video teaser. [2:38:57] *Linus's trip to Japan ft. WAN Show After Dark.* > 2:40:54 Linus went into a packed Japanese train. > 2:42:15 Luke asks what went good, Super Nintendo World trip. > 2:45:16 Pokémon Café reservation, Linus on the food's lack of quality. > 2:48:56 Other cafés & family experience. > 2:50:36 Linus covers the high tech society, tickets, checkpoints. > 2:56:33 Linus enjoyed SMW's detail, Luke on signs & his experience. > 3:00:50 Linus isn't a fan of traveling or seafood. [3:01:44] *Merch Messages #3 ft. Technical difficulties.* > 3:02:28 Luke on playing Anno 1800. > 3:05:06 Any proud dad gaming milestones? > 3:05:49 Do you see Apple making a Beats-like Android app for AirPods? > 3:06:10 How is Microsoft still able to aggressively bundle Edge? > 3:06:35 How did you learn to let go of your privacy as a public figure? > 3:09:45 Have you found a good wireless solution for the Valve Index? > 3:10:18 Anything you or your professor did that helped with Luke's dyslexia? > 3:13:58 Thoughts on the many YT scam ads? Should Google be held liable? > 3:14:46 Does Linus use Plex? Competitors? Streaming recommendation? > 3:16:50 How would Linus react if he caught his kid cheating, V.S. exploit? > 3:17:58 How does Luke keep a fully remote team motivated & successful? > 3:21:50 Are Luke & Linus satisfied after working on LMG? Childhood dreams? [3:26:12] *Linus on cost of things & quality in Japan.* [3:28:45] *Outro ft. Double outro, scenes overlay.* Side note: Sorry about the delay. Unsure whether I will be able to do next week's or beyond due to health issues, last week has been a roller coaster of emotions but I sure am addicted to timestamping and begged the nurses to keep my phone lol. Donations are in my channel's about page.

[@keshavbhanu5788]

Finally thank you

[@HaroldKuilman]

Get well soon, we ❤ you! 🙏🏻

[@JJRicks]

Thank you Noki! Stay safe and I hope you feel better soon

[@musasleeps]

thanks a lot hope your ok

[@Deinorius]

Hope you'll get healthy again.

[@MiloMurphysLaw]

It is ridiculous that they didn’t just make it possible to update the firmware on AirPods or Apple Watches by plugging them into a PC and using iTunes to download and install the update

[@basiicbid8032]

@@pigybankThat’s not really an equal comparison because Itunes is made by apple and is already used to update apple devices on a nonnative platform

[@wydra9-1]

⁠​⁠@@pigybankI’m sorry but that’s a bit of a Braindead Take (TM) that’s not how software works. AirPods are hardware, firmware is machine level code and is updated typically using a bootloader, those are typically secured using keys and connected to via standard protocols (uart over usb or straight usb). Apple makes iTunes, they could fairly easily transpose the code from their firmware updaters built into a Mac into a PC. It would be closer to saying “it’s ridiculous that I can’t update my switch controller by plugging it into my PC and using a Nintendo provided app to update the firmware." If you said that, you’d be right, it is ridiculous, or do you think Nintendo has a giant room full of switches to make sure their controllers are up to date before they ship?

[@Balgoriusis]

​@@pigybank I do not agree with that analogy. Headphones are platform agnostic device. Controller is not.

[@MiloMurphysLaw]

@@pigybank​​⁠first of all, I want to make it 100% clear: I have an iPhone, an Apple Watch, AirPods, an iPad Mini, several AirTags, I use Apple TV+ and Apple Maps and CarPlay, and in a perfect world I would also have an iMac and a MacBook. If it was possible, I would probably only own products made by Apple. So, I’m not saying this to hate on Apple at all in any possible way. But the example of connecting a Nintendo Switch controller to an Xbox could not possibly be any more different from what I’m talking about. I’m talking about using iTunes (WHICH IS MADE BY APPLE) to update AirPods (WHICH ARE MADE BY APPLE). Why is that not a possibility? If you wanted a more accurate comparison, it would be like if I buy a wireless mouse that works totally fine with my computer, except every year it requires a software update or else it’s slowly going to start lagging more and more, and the battery will start to die faster and faster. So, simple solution, just make sure the software is always up to date and you’ll never have a problem. *But* the only way to update the software is if you also buy a keyboard from that same company, which then includes a download key for their special software, which also requires a separate purchase to be able to download, then requires a monthly subscription payment, and you also have to pay extra for each individual time that you download a software update for your mouse or keyboard. And again, if you choose to just not update the software, they’ll slowly start to lag more and die faster and eventually just become completely unusable after a few years. Please just explain to me why I can’t use iTunes (MADE BY APPLE) to update AirPods (MADE BY APPLE). Why does it have to require an iPhone? What is the logical reason for that?? Please explain.

[@pigybank]

@@Balgoriusis then why do I own some platform agnostic controllers that ironically work both with my Apple TV and my Mac, and my switch? Of course they’re 3rd party but still platform agnostic. But of course Nintendo doesn’t make their controllers to work with competing devices. It’s not in their interest. Meanwhile Apple does make their headphones work with 3rd party devices with the sole exception of the firmware update. Regardless I own many tech products that are hard or impossible to update. Apple is being held to a standard here that literally no other company is forced to live up to.

[@gamingmarcus]

"The lawsuit threatens who we are" Uuuhm...yeah that's kind of the whole point Apple.

[@prawny12009]

Digital communism, you must share your platform and allow compatibility with all other platforms. It make unique products and software pointless, why even have intellectual property, parents and licensing anymore.

[@MasterCraft_48]

"This will hurt me" Yeah... that's... that's the point of being sued for that sort of thing...

[@metallurgico]

Imagine soldiers complaining to get shot

[@geebster.]

Honestly what makes them unique as a company and service is that they do this BS. Linus is right, it truly is who they are

[@colt5189]

But Apple isn't a "monopoly". I think the DOJ is acting more like a monopoly than Apple.

[@josir1994]

How did Linus managed to get the worst internet connection in the whole Japan?

[@lupolinar]

WiFi in hotels can be really crappy. Japan is no exception there. We had reasonable priced room and the WiFi was rough - not even 720p was possible without let the video buffer for quite some time. 🤷‍♂️

[@Frizzy9000]

@@lupolinarI have noticed the same. I don't do a bunch of hotels but whenever I do, I often see one maybe two APs (not WiFi 6 either) in the hallway to support like 30+ people though upwards of 15 walls if you are at the end of the hallway 🤦‍♂️

[@yensteel]

​@@lupolinarAgreed, Wifi in hotels and airports can be horrible, even in highly rated ones. They often have a special log in method, and would constantly drop connections or throttle. Latency is also pretty bad at times, so audio could be skipped. I've got a few ruined meetings in hotels and resorted to using hotspot wifi on my phone. It's quite a hit or miss depending on hotels.

[@AstonGryffynn]

How did he get the worst room in Japan? What's that behind him? A fridge?

[@davidgoncalvesalvarez]

@@lupolinarThen just don’t use WiFi?? With holafly you can get UNLIMITED DATA for 6€ a day. And data in Japan is excellent (at least Softbank’s), only two time I’ve been without cellular, and both times were on an elevator.

[@josephalbert-ey6xh]

It's not even that apple doesn't voluntarily support things outside of its ecosystem, it's the extra steps and effort they take to actively make being outside of that ecosystem worse

[@jamiewilliams3179]

thank you!! that's the point people are missing

[@Riley_Christian]

@@jamiewilliams3179 Yea lol, keyword searching apple in these comments is horrendous. They are exactly the type people enabling this behaviour

[@lzrjck69]

Just make them iPhone only accessories. No issue there. But they want the extra profit without paying for the support. That and drawing new people into the walled garden.

[@BlueEyedVibeChecker]

@@t.n.-js6ei Apple made the latest Mac OS incompatible with pre-2017 Macs at the same time Microsoft did with Windows 11, but Apple got a free pass and went completely unpunished while Microsoft got shunned into oblivion for the exact same thing. Short answer is no.

[@bigfootnz]

Japan oddity explanations: The Trashcan thing in is because a saran gas attack in a bin, so the authorities removed all the bins, people just carry trash or get rid of it at a combini. Vending machines, the expectation is to drink the drink at the vending machine and there's usually a bin nearby. or carry the trash. You can drink on the street, prob not walking and doing it. Overpackaging, tis due to food safety regulations, even fruit that has a protective skin, in a bag it goes.

[@RycoonGalloy]

a WAN where luke talks more than linus, we should do these more often

[@joaocordeiro198]

Hey Dan, next time set up linux desktop to use a FEC (forward error correction) udp based vpn FEC will send 3 udp packages for each 2, in a kind of raid 3 style. While it used more bandwidth, it is much more package loss resident without re-asking for lost packages like tcp. Perfect for live-streaming over high package loss links, like hotel wifi.

[@heni63]

Sounds like a nice info!

[@FabiVoltair]

I imagine they did nothing at all to try to improve the quality. Linus didn't even bother to plug in his headset for the mic to maybe not be ass. But great suggestion. I hope they put some effort in the future into better WAN Call-ins

[@arpytrooper2604]

​@@FabiVoltair It's a wireless headset...he walks away sometimes and the mic stays the exact same volume

[@ChristopherAndersonPirate]

@@FabiVoltairLinus is in the “idgaf” mode now

[@Kipper_Ace]

Basic timestamp: 1:37 - Apple sued 44:35 - Minimal, like a Kindle but it's a phone? 53:35 - Lock box for peripherals idea - Linus 1:02:38 - Merch messages 1:21:45 - Everyone gets to game at work 1:25:50 - Glass door not 100% anonymous 1:29:49 - Sponsors 1:40:00 - Merch messages 1:54:13 - Steam families 2:02:44 - Smosh song 2:15:15 - First human to receive neuro link 2:17:15 - Restaurant renames menu items after office supplies 2:19:20 - Apex legends hack 2:24:50 - Balder's Gate no major DLC 2:28:28 - Canada ban on flipper0 update 2:29:42 - Evga power supply issue destroys 22tb of sata drives 2:33:17 - Announcments 2:39:00 - After dark That's all I will do upto, hope it helps until the usual timestamp guys is done :)

[@EarthSettler]

Thank you

[@beardsntools]

The minimal phone is a joke. If there are any devices worth bringing back from 2000s it's the pocket pc. No-one likes physical keyboards on phones.

[@MasterCraft_48]

Thank you

[@auraxio2944]

thank you very much

[@anthonyjudd231]

​@beardsntools literally millions of people love physical keyboards bro. Get real.

[@torchlord11]

The fact that it is legal to buy and sell people's information is wrong and that should be illegal.

[@jonatanrullman]

That sounds really hard to achieve. There's a thousand ways to get around it and the unforeseen consequences might be kind of bad. There isn't a shortage of those kinds of examples neither.

[@alexstergaard3551]

​​@@jonatanrullman Both yes and no. It should be easy enough to legislate against if the political will is there. Like we've seen in the EU, they aren't afraid to write legislation like: "You are not allowed to transfer or sell any information obtained to 3rd parties who, directly or indirectly, may use said information for marketing or other commercialization". I'll concede that it'll be hard, if not impossible, to govern and the push back might be significant from both tech giants and data brokers alike. But my point is it shouldn't be hard to legislate against - that operationalization though. 😮

[@JrockProject1]

@@jonatanrullman i think companies need to be told "no gatekeeping services behind information consent"

[@Dracossaint]

​@@jonatanrullmanIt's hard to nail down every loophole but setting up a few can set a precedent at least and make it known it's frowned upon legally

[@larsrademakers6070]

It should be legal as long as the user gets informed by it, or maybe the user has to opt in. Because most people dont care about privacy

[@Jeffmylife]

I’ve got a billion dollar idea… a headset with a mic that doesn’t sound like a 1920s telephone

[@omega1231]

It's not as much a quality problem as it's a form factor problem. Components are not small enough yet to fit enough stuff in there to make it a good mic. That's the entire difference between Luke and Linus' microphones. Also, when it comes to sound engineering, size does tend to matter. Microphones at the size of a headset mic will likely always lack bass for example

[@HyviaVideoitaMansenlale]

​@@omega1231Yeah, no. Phones have amazing microphones nowadays, and they are way smaller than grain of rice. There are good headset microphones, but you need good codec and enough bitrate to go along.

[@EazLP]

​​@@omega1231it totally is though. Lav mics exist, everyone in video uses them quite often and they are tiny. This is just about headset brands saving a buck on that. (Also there is the antlion modmic, which literally is a clip on headset mic that sounds great compared to this.)

[@LennertK]

​@@omega1231size has nothing to do with it, the Sennheiser standalone mics I use at work (part of their wireless EW-D system, idk what they are called) are much, much smaller and plenty high quality compared to what we hear here. Used on stage and for corporate broadcast. I think the issue in this case is much more a combo of the mic hardware + ADC/software setup + connection, I don't think the bad mic is doing all the damage by itself

[@parabolicpanorama]

wait until this genius learns about compression and video streaming

[@brittb1696]

Antitrust cases are an absolute win for consumers. Taking down AT&T in the 80s gave us the Internet as we know it today. Taking down Microsoft in the 90s gave us the browsers we have today. Who knows what taking down Apple will create.

[@benwu7980]

Being in EU, we are more used to seeing companies getting hauled in to court over anti-consumer stuff. I don't quite know what the USA anti-trust commission has been doing for the intervening 25 years when there's so much obvious work to be done. At least they are starting to wake up again, so maybe they'll target others.

[@Funkykryptonite_]

The FTC is a joke. Might as well be the BBB.

[@Joe-cm5kl]

"The browsers we have today" don't exactly fit the model of a healthy market.

[@brittb1696]

@@Joe-cm5kl Can't completely disagree. (Though my hatred of this market is more pointed at the market share of a platform-exclusive browser like that POS Safari.) Still, doesn't take much to imagine the shit-show we'd be in if the 'market' was still dominated by Internet Explorer. (Assuming there'd be a market at all. Imagine if your choice was exclusively Microsoft or Apple. /shudder)

[@danieltober8574]

you should set up a screen where linus would be sitting so Luke can actually look at “him” without having to look next to the camera

[@Mr.Fishward]

“Workout and Click On Heads” t-shirt when?

[@9804Dracon]

Most tourism in Japan is Domestic tourism and the gifting culture is huge so that is why you can buy souvenirs everywhere. It is expected you get souvenirs for even co-workers.

[@Metal_Maxine]

All your co-workers. Linus should be glad he isn't hauling back 100+ tourist keyrings.

[@elone3997]

Whoever perfectly lined up Linus's stream to the studio cutout deserves a raise ☺️

[@jackielinde7568]

"...and would stop Apple from making the kind of software people have come to expect from Apple." So... This would stop Apple from making anti-consumer and anti-competitive software?

[@LinusTechTips]

Sounds good to me - LS

[@amigang]

The Apple lawsuit is long overdue, as the browser one is interesting as I don’t get how Apple got away for so long blocking the full version of Firefox being ported over. Microsoft rightly got into trouble over explore and some sever level compatibility crap they tried to pull, plus I think it can be proven that it harm competition in the browser market not allowing full Firefox. Plus it did kinda kill Adobe flash, which I know not many where a fan, but I liked it.

[@amigang]

Just for people who don’t know, Firefox on iOS has to be chrome based not Gecko base and restricts some JavaScript engines

[@ParasAryan]

​@@amigangWebKit based*

[@crocsnosockz]

​@@amigang not just firefox. Every browser has to be webkit(safari) based including chrome, edge etc

[@hollyc5417]

it will go no where and you're all idiots for thinking it has any basis in reality.

[@burhanbudak6041]

MS still allowed other engines, Apple is worse. But the Adobe thing could cause Java/Adobe going after Apple for losing market share.

[@daniwalmsley611]

4:56 The Apple Watch Wifi + Cellular, works independently of your phone. Once you have paired it to your iphone you can put your iphone in a draw and never touch it again. The fact that you have to pair to an iPhone, and can't even use an iPad or Mac to set it up is evidence enough that it is a deliberate choice, and not a limitation of the watch

[@SethSchiffino]

Unfortunately, no. I have to not only have an iPhone, but also WiFi, or I cannot install an update to my Apple Watch series 9. I do have an iPhone, but I don’t have WiFi. I can’t update.

[@HypedLama]

iPhone can do WiFi Hotspots ?

[@davidscann]

​@@HypedLamahow do you figure it couldn't?

[@CanIHasThisName]

@@davidscannSome countries apparently allow carriers to limit hotspot functionality.

[@CanIHasThisName]

There's a bit more to it. The Watch isn't a regular phone and carriers typically don't support it as such. You generally need to get a service that shares the same number between the phone and the watch. In other words, in most countries you couldn't just buy the watch as a replacement for a phone. Additionally, I don't think Apple is in any way special, AFAIK it works try he same with other manufacturers.

[@glenorrett6181]

The fact Apex made the wan show, shows how bad the cheating situation really is

[@artemisDev]

Apex deserves it for taking Titanfall 3 away for so long.

[@aflyingmodem]

not really, it's just a big isolated incident, they aren't talking about the state of apex games in public matches, the hacker had a wild cheat that made bots load into a match all with the same name and target the streamers, and they aren't talking about that

[@dragorocky2]

I stopped playing online competitive shooters. It doubles down on wasted time after playing against cheaters.

[@DarkNia64]

​@user-ny3sk1ur8s A better comparison would be an alternate reality where TES6 got canceled because the devs went all in on ESO.

[@marhier]

The irony of their discussion on the 10-minute time limit for apps, on a 3 and a half hour podcast, lol.

[@boneappletee6416]

​@@dftfire I get you 😂 But I don't *watch* the WAN show, I listen to it in the background during my weekend downtime playing video games.

[@TestarossaF110]

eh, not really

[@hiddendrifts]

there's a difference between a lengthy podcast that concludes eventually and a social media app that's designed to get you to stay on it for as long as possible...

[@marhier]

@hiddendrifts Yeah, I was just joking dude.

[@hiddendrifts]

@@marhier >joking< it's getting harder to tell these days. it's why i sometimes use a tone tag ["/s" or "/j"] if i feel like there's some ambiguity in what i mean

[@prod999solo]

Hearing linus casually say "As a bit of a Alpha myself." Is one of the funniest things ive seen on this Channel.

[@mschwachterizer]

Hilarious

[@RubelliteFae]

Regarding Japanese cultural things: - You take the drink to where you are going-or if it's one of those little glass bottled health drinks you down it in front of the place you bought it and toss it. - There are garbage cans at conbini & train stations, but really you are meant to take your trash with you. (Make sure to sort it properly.) - I'm majorly lol-ing at "objectively terrible" food. I only ran into food I didn't like when ordering something really traditional (i.e., a taste I had not and had no desire to acquire, like chicken cartilage skewers). If you want good things there's a tone to try: udon, ramen, soba, gyudon (one of the few beef dishes I enjoy), kare ("curry," but don't expect it to taste like actual curry, it's its own thing), hiyashi chuka is one of my favorites, onigiri, oh definitely go out for okonomiyaki! Dude, there's so many things. I can't really explain how to find the right places to go, but if you aren't enjoying the food you're clearly doing something wrong. One thing to keep in mind is most dishes are seasonal. I'd estimate there's about 8 different "food seasons." But, I can't think of any bad ones. Maybe go to actual restaurants? lol Or even food stalls. - The idea that Japan is "high-tech" is a Western picture we paint onto them because they have really strong corporations (basically still zaibatsu, but technically not), so they are able to create great tech. But Japanese people are very reticent to try out new tech. Most people never jumped onto the home computer craze like we did; they don't really use credit cards (or when they do, they pay it off the next month.. not even as a cultural thing, that's just how Japanese cards usually work... You have to specifically tell them when it's a "revolving line of credit card"); my bank's ATM was only open the hours the bank was open, plus one hour before, after, and during their lunch shift which they all took at once; anything you want to buy online you usually give cash to someone at a conbini for the exact amount and then use the card they give you to use online (but you also pay most of your bills by having the conbini scan the bills barcode and give them cash, which is nice) honestly, living in Japan made me better at managing my finances because of having to keep enough cash on hand for everything; but yeah, basically they don't trust that tech will just work for the most part. On the other hand, when I moved there in 2008 they had HD TV on flip phones & NFC for train/subway passes on flip phones as well as keyless cars, so it's hit & miss. Another example of weirdly low tech was we were still using faxes, on a daily or even multiple times (per worker) per day when I left in 2012. Oh, and smartphones flopped when they were first introduced there, so Apple adapted emoji and they sold well (then they messed with them too much, misunderstanding what many of them were meant to convey and they've since gone out of fashion from what I've heard). - I've never seen a kaitenzushi (conveyor belt sushi) place where you don't stack you plates near you and they count them at the end. I have no idea what you were sending them down. - Regarding trains, if you don't live there you should always get the All Rail Pass, it simplifies the whole experience for tourists (and if you do live there you just swipe your phone because the ticket software is built in and you pay it monthly or more often your job does). The All Rail Pass is also cheaper if you are traveling a decent amount. - I think there were two tickets because you were taking a train between two different private train systems. - Osaka (or Kansai in general) is just weird period. It's not like anywhere else in Japan. - If you go back, try Nagoya. Sakae neighbourhood always has something going on, but there's other cool areas, too. Osu Kannon, the castle, Atsuta Jingu. Plenty of like touristy, but traditional as well as modern things for locals. Great city! Tons to do. And if you snowboard / ski Nagano (prefecture) is great, but you can find really fun slopes for better rates in Niigata (prefecture). Some are right on the bullet train line. My favorite was Shiga Kogen. It's not so much a ski-jo as it is a complex of 20 ski-jo that you can go between all day, then relax in an onsen after. A few times I even found ones that were completely empty besides me and one had a lovely outdoor one. Was so nice sitting in the hotspring outside seeing the blankets of snow with little snowflakes falling all around. Very peaceful end to a day.

[@RubelliteFae]

Another hot tip that Luke mentioned before is if you stay at a hostel, you'll get great recommendations. And Japanese hostels are the safest I've ever been in (everything in Japan is the safest, TBH).

[@U1TR4F0RCE]

The Japan Rail Pass did get a price increase so it’s not necessarily worth it for most now, though my mom and I used it on our trip.

[@Nameless_JPN-ENG]

For the kaitenzushi it is probably Kura sushi where they have the plate returning hole for you to do so.

[@RubelliteFae]

@@Nameless_JPN-ENG Oh, I didn't know about them. Looks like it's even connected to a Gacha system. Interesting! Thanks

[@laned1042]

This is the closest I’ve been to catching the wan show live

[@MiloMurphysLaw]

Same

[@itsnotmeme9765]

every european guy can understand

[@anthonyjudd231]

Bro same and I live in a pretty good place to catch it

[@ClowdyHowdy]

The android e-ink devices are extremely useful for language learners. Many of us love to read in a foreign language, but utilize various 3rd party software that makes language learning easier and more effective, and reading on e-ink is way more confortable. Custom dictionaries with pop up displays, known word tracking and language parsing, automated flashcard creation to use in spaced repitition programs like anki. This stuff is getting more popular and better made all the time. Im using kimchi reader to read korean books, and i can use it on mobile android devices (as well as desktop for books, netflix, and youtube). Im eagerly awaiting more devices like this, and will consider buying this one. My only gripe is the physical keyboard. I can touch type korean on a full size keyboard but it would take time to get used to that with a physical thumb keyboard... The boox might still be king in this area.

[@Harrison.13]

Luke did a great job at semi-solo hosting today!

[@dataterminal]

2:15:49 The best part about this is while the mouse cursor is restricted to 'thinking' about the moving of his hands, it does mean that with more practice and more effort on he user's part to train using the systems, they might be come very proficient at it.. and what I find more interesting, the idea that VR could give some of these disable people movement again in the very near future. While physical machines to make it happen might be way off, a VR based game just being able to move around freely in the open worlds would be crazy fun for some of them who may have not been able to move to 10, 20 years or more.

[@kg4wwn]

If you can do it in VR, you can do it with machines. It might not be quite as smooth, because the VR world can cheat to have the objects that are being acted on reacting in ways that are not pure physics, but robotics are very sophisticated now. We have robots that can walk on their own, reach out grab things manipulate them, play musical instruments like humans do, perform surgery etc.

[@yensteel]

There's a popular video where a woman said she is stuck at home with a condition, and VR allowed her to travel and socialize with others. There were a lot of things she couldn't do in real life but could do there. It was a strong point for metaverse. Sadly, the excitement of metaverse lost steam.

[@3xceIIent]

​@@yensteel I think it's less about losing steam and more that it was just way more hyped up than it should have been at the time. When all the hype was in the news and everyone was talking about it it was just a pipe dream. Since then Mark Zuckerberg has dumped more than $46 billion trying to make the metaverse a reality and what is there actually to show for it so far? Practically nothing, which is insane considering how much money that really is. They have shifted directions more than once and the demonstrations have been laughable. I am sure they have made some big developments behind the scenes that we don't see that will someday help to make a metaverse a reality, but as it stands we just don't have anything close to a metaverse and we don't know when we will.

[@BHBalast]

​@@yensteelThe metaverse is alive and it seems it is here to stay, it's just a niche for now. Im curious what's the future tho as computing power and form factor isn't there for non gamers yet, but in 10-15 years it will be.

[@yensteel]

@@BHBalast Yes, computing power is getting pretty good for rendering and it's going to improve much more. Graphical fidelity doesn't seem to be the critical factor for an immersive experience though. It seems the interfaces and latency are what's holding it back. If people can *redacted * with other people, in real time, without stutters nor lag, everyone will jump in.

[@Ziip47]

Luke's effort to get Linus to mention some positive things about the trip is funny. I think he regretted bringing it up at all by the end. 😂😂

[@alanhilder1883]

4:30 they spent 3 years working out how to block every conceivable way for the things to work away from their control, not trying to make it work.

[@testthetech5820]

Between that and the latest, that Apple M-Series chips leak encryption keys and can’t be fixed by software updates, they’re in a tough place right now.

[@liamphillips2339]

I keep on seeing people use the argument that you should know what you're buying if you are paying over $1,000. And that's fair. But the price is not the issue. It's the business practices. Remember this. Imagine if Amazon only allowed you to sell your products on their store. banned you if you used another ecommerce platform, and claimed that it was for privacy or ecosystem reasons. On the one hand, they are a company that doesn't legally have to let you use their platform, but when they make up most of the online shopping market, it would be hard to do it on your own. Yet Apple does this to apps that use third party payment systems, and not only will your app get banned, but you won't have the option to sideload/use your own platform on their devices, and most people don't bat an eye. These types of practices are the whole reason that monopoly laws exist.

[@attemptityourself5662]

As a little added detail that "efficiency" number Luke was speaking about was $/employee/HOUR and valve just stated they were more efficient than MS at the time who was making 780K$ per employee per hour at the most efficient spot. Valve didn't actually state how much they were making.

[@Mr.SausageFingers]

Watching linus try to align himself with the cardboard cutout has been the best thing I've seen so far today 😂

[@Dalia-hd6tk]

timestamp?

[@neolution]

Ironically , the Microsoft antitrust settlement helped make Apple the company it is today. Time for Apple to step aside.

[@the_expidition427]

Suit probably a nothing burger

[@clansome]

There are so many things worse about Apple than Microsoft I'm amazed it hasn't happened sooner in the US. In Europe we bashed BOTH of them and they BOTH had to change. Unfortunately one aspect of US law that can be postponed almost indefinitely.

[@agenttechstreams3891]

Windows is the worst os for long updates keeping you away from doing what you need to do sometimes for hours if it crashes at first attempt

[@LogicalError007]

​@@agenttechstreams3891Long updates? It takes 2 minutes, 1 time a month.

[@upunvo6743]

techin on my tip

[@udaysingh9_11]

Edgin to that 😊

[@lilkidsuave]

First name like Linus

[@SpaceTimer369]

Bros tryin to quick his bit

[@mohidmeer2597]

Just did

[@thanos879]

She teched on my tip

[@chrisc359]

My continuum power supply had something similar. When I got a replacement sata cable, The pinout changed, but the parts number of the sata cable had not changed. So according to the parts list, it should have been fine. It only fried the fan splitter and I did not need it. the disturbing thing was that the customer service, when I wanted to warn them, just meant: well it is an old power supply, so they can't help me. Following the bitcoin mining many higher power power supplies went in the used market. No idea how many people could be effected. The conclusion is:check every cable, no matter where they came from.

[@TheCalifornianeskimo]

The discussion on searching for thumb drives just showed how maddening it is to look for anything tech related, chargers, thumb drives, cables, fucking anything

[@sprocket1536]

When is Dan getting added to the intro?

[@weltenkrank7807]

Glassdoor needs to be sued until they are bankrupt.

[@Undertak2000]

If Linus Tech Tips can’t stream from another location without lag, what hope is there for any of us?

[@BlueEyedVibeChecker]

My 5G went from 250Gbps to 340Gbps, then down to 55Mbps in the span of three minutes today. His connection is poor, but still lightyears ahead of most of ours. Linus as a measurement is already a death knell for the rest of us lmao.

[@grn1]

​@@BlueEyedVibeChecker 5g has a lot of limitations that can't be fixed with a mobile connection. Certain implementations rely on frequencies that can be blocked by a sheet of paper but when they do work they have low latency. Other implementations use more mid-band frequencies which isn't as good for latency but tends to be more stable and can have the same bandwidth. Mobile also has to deal with a lot of people trying to use a fairly limited range of frequencies at the same time.

[@chrismcgraw3399]

i remember windows phones used to have an app where you could see and interact with a local pc and the reverse of that was also possible and the same is also doable with an android phone. Apple wants to be the one and force customers to them in their closed proprietary ecosystem where you are punished if you don't buy enough and if you do it is not enough yet because they're pushing you to get stuff you don't even need and even newer products they might end up not supporting in the long run .

[@zac-1]

it's just a phone lmao

[@RobertFall]

So just don’t but Apple devices?? It’s bizarre to me that so many people don’t just buy the alternatives

[@CanIHasThisName]

@@RobertFall The alternatives have their own issues.

[@timmitchell9021]

It's baffling that Linus has to spoon feed people the problems with Apple's behavior

[@nickwallette6201]

It can be hard to tell from inside. I agree with the sentiment here, I just wasn't aware of most of the problems. I DO use a lot of Apple stuff, and it all works pretty well together. I considered an Android phone ages ago, and didn't like the UI, so I have absolutely no idea what the experience is like trying to use some Apple devices with some non-Apple devices. Part of me says, "eh, what do you expect them to do? They're not running a charity." Another part of me remembers that we've built modern society on the backs of open protocols like TCP/IP and SMTP. Imagine if the early Internet pioneers had the mindset that they would rather license than give away, and better still, keep to themselves rather than license, if that was an option. It is crappy behavior, and it should stop. I hesitate to say it should be _law,_ but I do understand the motivation, and the argument has some merit. I would rather they just be better citizens than change by decree. But I suppose that's fantasy.

[@bha1959]

I watch this show exclusively on spotify, but I came and found this KZbin video so I could leave a comment. PLEASE continue (for the remainder of all WAN shows for the rest of time) just randomly eating one of those roulette jelly beans during the show. Man, that's entertaining.

[@EarthKuma]

2:53:21 lol in Switzerland we just have one app for all the public transport 😂

[@Youhaveaname]

The only reason I've ever stopped a Civ Game or any other 4x for that matter is when I need to recharge, i.e. Sleep because I have work the next day. Too many times I say to myself. "Just one more turn"

[@jaihayes9647]

Yeah Civ is a Dangerous time vacuum lol

[@joaomendes3907]

They should Collab with music KZbinrs of different genres to make Christmas album 2. Have 1 lmg employee or more Collab with a creator for each song. That'd be amazing

[@arjunyg4655]

So here’s a hot take in the form of a question? How many platforms are hardware makers required to support? Is Apple required to support Apple Watch on Windows phone? Does this apply to software too? Are video games required to have Mac and Linux support? I don’t really see what the distinction in reasoning is between “Apple should support my Watch on Android because I have an Android and I want an Apple Watch” and “I have a Linux system and I want to play GTA so Rockstar needs to support me.” There has to be some balance here right? What is the justification for skewering Apple on development costs but not everyone else who makes anything? I just don’t see it as anything other than an unfair singling out without a proper universal first principles basis. Why is iOS not required to work on Samsung phones? I think it really comes down to what the boundaries of a product are, and I don’t see how the customer or the government gets to decide what that is. The manufacturer is the one making the product and they get to decide it, and it’s interoperability IMO. It comes down the manufacturer getting to make engineering tradeoffs, not the government. Like imagine if some years back Thunderbolt were basically outlawed because USB (3) C is more interoperable? Idk seems stupid. I want manufacturers to make the best tech they can.

[@666Tomato666]

Steam provides Cloud Saves (Hi Nintendon't!). Paying 30% for that kind of services isn't crazy.

[@TNH91]

That's not all either. Valve takes care of the content delivery (letting you download your games), they develop features to make it easier for developers to have multiplayer, and a host of other things. Still, those features they've developed are mostly locked to the Steam platfor, AFAIK, so I kinda dislike those parts of it. I try to get all my games from gog (or directly from the developer) if I can. I'm actually trying to _actively_ avoid buying games through Steam (or Epic, god forbid). But yeah, the stuff developers and/or customers get for those 30% Valve takes of a game price is probably worth it for the vast majority of people.

[@ZedDevStuff]

​@@TNH91some said even if Steam had a higher cut, they would still get a lot more money from sales there, which makes sense. People absolutely hate all the other launchers so in terms of pure sales, you're gonna see the majority on Steam

[@Fetrovsky]

Linus was 12 in 98... that means he's closer to my age than I previously thought. Linus, you still look pretty young!

[@THE_Game_Mental]

I'm already seeing a new meme format with video call linus 😂

[@RaLo4]

2:51:40 I live in Japan and this is just wrong! You can definitely buy the seat reservation and the basic fare ticket at the same machine. This is even the default way for buying tickets at the automated ticket machine, so I don't know what Linus did. If you do so you will even get both in one ticket and don't have to put two tickets into the machine! I think this whole thing was just a communication issue. Which does happen in Japan. Japanese are notoriously bad at English.

[@SirSicCrusader]

about an hour in... linus lining himself up with the cut out is kinda adorable...

[@Frizzy9000]

My goodness the Linus train rant around 2:52:00. I skipped ahead several times and Luke is still patiently listening with different stances 🤣

[@tobygroves2112]

What a shocker - a totally free market doesn't lead to healthy competition and self-regulation, it leads to a few monopolies running everything

[@badshoes]

The market is far from totally free.

[@zeus1117]

@@badshoesstill. If you don't introduce some morality into it to safeguard soon you will end up in a system where your free will is already manipulated so that you have no idea you will chose that is actually bad for you. What is going on in the US is utter crap on every level.

[@badshoes]

@@zeus1117 I don't disagree.

[@jaspermooren5883]

Freedom is not a lack of regulation. Otherwise Anarchy would maximise freedom and it doesn't. Most freedoms are 'freedom to' not 'freedom from'. A free market is a regulated market. A monopolistic market isn't free and that's what happens when you don't regulate.

[@daze8410]

Outer Worlds is actually the outcome of a totally free market, a good example too. In the game, Roosevelt never passes monopoly laws and well that is the outcome as the devs see it

[@gonzostwin1]

37:16 I'm stuck using edge with ie compatibility, IT is trying to convert but the browser needs Silverlight. It's 2024, why?

[@sharpless]

I missed the complicated part of shinkansen tickets, bought the rail pass instead, made it really easy to travel.

[@geebster.]

Instead of making the best possible product or one that is actually better than others in the same price segment, they instead try to degrade your experience with any other product. Thats not legal. Thats precisely what anti trust is for. They arent required to make other companies' products work as well as their own does, but going out of your way to degrade the experience isn't OK.

[@alexmayer8943]

You're on Crack and clearly have no clue that all big companies do exactly what you just said and not only APPLE.

[@Hoekstes]

Ironic screen time discussion 😂

[@hallsofvalhalla1749]

Why can't I uninstall edge from windows? Why can't I turn off web search from windows? There is a lot of anti consumer practices being conducted by microsoft. I'm really close to installing linux on all of my machines. Even, if I can't play all of my games. We'll see what happens with windows "12".

It is not the same thing. You can install any browser on Windows and use it as default. On ios there is only Safari Browser and other Safari Browsers with another names and templates. You can install any software on windows without paying 30% commision to Microsoft. The company who is selling most paid softwares on the windows platform is Steam not Microsoft.

[@TNH91]

I hear you. I'm probably going to just be using Linux going forward as well. I'll continue using win10 for now, but I'm not liking what Microsoft is doing with Windows (enshittification might be a fitting word) so I'll be _very_ sceptical of them going forward, beyond what I'm already.

[@SimonVaIe]

You can turn off web search through a group policy (if you have at least windows pro) or through the registry on win home. Not very user friendly, yes, but it doesn't take much time anyways. I recommend it especially for slower machines.

[@ZedDevStuff]

Edge has the remnants of Internet Explorer in it. It's basically there only for compatibility with whatever needs it. Granted I haven't seen anything actually need IE outside of the older AMD adrenalin installers which used it to display stuff. Most likely some enterprise stuff use it but then you'd need to be in such a place to know for sure

[@hallsofvalhalla1749]

@@ZedDevStuffI can't help but feel like they do this by design. I wonder if it makes it easier to argue to lawyers, when your software is integrated into the OS.

[@JarrodsTech]

Cool to hear the take on Japan, I'm heading there on Monday. The Shinkansen 2 ticket thing sounds dumb as hell, saw that in a few videos I watched - can't wait to deal with that :)

[@graemepennell]

This episode was THE PRIME TIME for Luke to take charge and choose the discussions, and also disconnect linus due to signal loss 😂

[@AdamKiraly_3d]

When I signed up with Steam to sell my game there was limitations on how cheap you can sell it. You're also not allowed to simply pull a bunch of steam keys and sell it cheaper on other platforms. Humble is a special case included in exceptions. You can sell your game off steam too for less as long as you're not selling steam keys. Idk if this changed since 2017 or not but I'm fairly certain this was part of the contract I signed

[@faeranne]

I was the lead dev on a game that almost sold on steam. Internal issues killed the game, but we did go through Valve's requirements, and as far as I can tell, there were no real, hard limits on price. Steam keys were limited till a certain number of units were sold, but where they were distributed was not.

[@AdamKiraly_3d]

@@faeranne where was never limited, but iirc there was a clause locking sale prices to be the same. Would like to see a recent agreement TBF my signing was a while ago

Luke would need nearly a month to watch one WAN show on the phone 🤯

[@Validole]

On android, in Digital Wellbeing, under Chrome, it allows settinud limit per domain (at least on Oneplus 8T, Android 13)

[@Validole]

Mind you, it only seems to show pages used today, so you have to go and get one hit in before blocking...

[@anthonyjudd231]

Ehh, you buy a playstation you get the playstation work around. You buy the xbox you get the xbox work around. Thats far from the same as "buy my phone or never see your family clearly again"

[@anthonyjudd231]

Describes the problem with touch screen keyboard, continues to say youll hate the other option instead

[@waisetsubunsho7934]

Linus getting frustrated about how Japan can screw up the simplest things and make them a disastrous web of unnecessary hoop jumps was a good reminder of why I moved out of there after almost a decade. It killed my nostalgia real quick, thanks

[@Spazza42]

The difference between Valve and Apple is that Valve allows you to access their app/store however you want. All Apple have to do is make an application that allows you to update and use your products how you want on any device. It wouldn’t be difficult at all.

[@danielbricker7204]

sorta related but only a bit: one of the merch questions asked Luke about dyslexia. Im left handed and ive never gotten left handed tools. for scissors i do have to get ambidextrous ones but for all other things i just learn to use the normal tools. and i dont move my mouse over to the other side of my keyboard either. games and things are designed for right handed people so its just been easier to use things that way and work through it. it does mean i tend to suck at FPS games because my right hand is just dumb but im not really into FPS games all that much anyway.

[@3xceIIent]

I can't imagine honestly. As a right handed person I know how dumb my left hand is. But there is also basically nothing I have to try and use my left hand for so in the rare occasion I try it just doesn't function much. Perhaps having to try and adapt like this all your life might have gave you slightly more control over your right hand than I have of my left, but even still it doesn't sound fun.

[@TNH91]

@@3xceIIent I know that some people actively train to become ambidextrous (I've done _some_ attempts at it myself, try eating with the fork and knife switching hands) so I'm sure I _could_ get to a point where I could use a mouse well with my left hand. It's just not something I'm used to. But for guitar most people do the strumming with their right/dominant hand and the dextrous work of pressing down on the correct frets with their left/non-dominant hand. That seems to indicate to me that it's mostly what we're used to that matters. But then again I have _no_ scientific knowledge on the topic and haven't looked into it beyond just lay person opinioning.

[@IxXDOMINATORXxI]

I would love a good hybrid phone with a pysical keyboard but also still has the touchscreen. The Original Motorola Droid and Droid 2 were GREAT phones and a perfect example of this. They even had D pads with a center button !

[@matt5721]

Yep. Phones don't need to be small or good looking. Give me chonk and functionality.

[@autumnvolume4181]

@@matt5721Sounds like you might be interested in what Unihertz has to offer - QWERTY phones, phones with ridiculously huge batteries, etc.

[@MarioNotBros]

Glad to hear Linus enjoyed his trip to Japan

[@WolfBeard0104]

Sad part is, there is a way to update AirPods by plugging them in, but it’s through a specific Apple program. I work for an AASP, and we have software provided by Apple for just this. Updating firmware on AirPods and iPhones manually through recovery modes and such. The amount of hoops we have to go through when changing out even just a speaker or display is insane.

[@zerker08]

2:14:30 that's chip the ripper not biggie smalls

[@alfufu]

Gm to every one waking up in EU

[@AgencyNighthawk]

GM fren

[@MihkelKukk]

Gm dude!

[@ChristopherAndersonPirate]

The happiest thing I heard in this entire wind show was the quadriplegic being able to play civilization 6 for 8 hours straight. That just feels my gamer heart with joy.

[@Kazyek]

48:12 I hate touch keyboards and touchscreen in general SO MUCH, I'd be really glad to see a return to physical keyboards!

[@gravtex]

This was a rough episode - I know you’ve got a streak to keep alive but as someone who typically listens on headphones while doing my Saturday morning chores, I had to stop - couldn’t listen with headphones on - audio was terrible. Not sure what the solution is but home you can find a better way when one of you is traveling in the future.

[@heni63]

Home?

[@rothevisualist]

One thing that baffles me is how majority of apple device owners truly believe that apple devices not being interoperable with other devices like the rest of the market is a great thing and anything else is somehow impossible or will make the apple device user experience worse. It’s just silly. Apple can be competitive and have some objectively superior experiences WHILE still being interoperable at the basic level. My partner and I bought a HomePod mini for our Apple TV and to our surprise, we couldn’t set up a speaker (a speaker!) with the TV Box, it MUST be an iPhone. WHY!??!?! THAT’S DELIBERATELY DESIGNING A LIMITATION THAT SHOULDN’T EXIST. Same thing with my AirPods I bought after my Galaxy buds pro (first gen) went missing and I thought ‘huh, let me try the AirPods Pro, they could be cool’ only to find out I couldn’t update the buds or even connect them to my Apple ID in any way without getting the tablet or phone. Bruh, come on, these are Bluetooth earbuds ffs 🙄 I like their experiences like any other company, but that behaviour irks the hell out of me and people that defend it irritate me.

[@ArthurIVA]

Is everyone else now only able to see the WAN Show on YT Music up to June 29, 2018? Typically listen to the show there because it keeps track of listen time better than traditional YT.

[@JamesWendel]

2:50:00 when I vacationed in Japan, I basically just hung out in the middle of Tokyo. Not near anything. All the food was absolutely amazing, even at the most hole-in-the-wall place

[@stoogel]

So I take it Linus is loving Japan?

[@YouTubetail]

😊 hi

[@Emoralis]

Everyone is fun size like him.

[@falsemcnuggethope]

Linus loves to complain so yes.

[@oskarrrw]

@@Emoralishahaha

[@nuclearchef-san8304]

@@EmoralisNo we Japanese are not all fun size ,I am 6 ft 1 in , my wife is 5ft 6in ,and all Japanese born and raised here and countless generations of family history going back over 1000 years.. but the stereotype is funny!Even in Ww2 many were surprised to find that Japanese were as tall and heavy as they were..

[@sanguineel]

I am extremely interested in switching to a dumb phone. I'll be watching minimal. However, I also am not a fan of the keyboard.

[@sebastiantaylor6236]

Checkout the nothing phone, sounds like what your looking for

[@ple7y]

Here's one for Luke, I just did 20 pushups while in a loading screen listening to you guys! 😁

[@zednik8956]

Leechblock is exactly what linus is after, I use it to block twitter, reddit, facebook etc

[@kidShibuya]

Yeah can back up what Linus is saying about Japan as I currently live in Tokyo and have lived here since 2015. For one, you don't go to themed anything. They are junk. Also the food scene here is massively overrated. You need to hunt to find anything good and the range is limited. But people argue very passionately about the food being excellent... i don't get it. And yeah my tiny apartment has zero space, that is why we all buy Muji storage boxes and racks. I am currently playing house tetris trying to make a film studio in my apartment. And note everyone has a bag... That is where your trash goes. What is great about Japan is the ability to go anywhere without a car and how safe it is. Apart from that though...

[@AusKipper1]

If you like sea food apparently the seafood in Japan is very good so says my wife, I however do not like really seafood generally. I survived on Ramen and Tonkatsu (I think thats how its spelled, some kind of battered fried pork with some veggies) and where available chicken sushi which was all decent but I would rather be at home eating fish, chips, burgers and pizza myself.

[@uss_04]

Went to a Japan just last year. Was a great trap and it’s just so comparatively affordable, especially to a Disney trip. This is the best time to bring yourself and family to Japan, never know if there will be changes to tourism next year given the current rush and pent up demand.

[@lifeisgood12341]

Woah that minimal phone is definitely something that I have been looking for in north America

[@MatthewWright001]

The shrug pose for Linus works for basically any time he is talking lol

[@eidodk]

IF a lawsuit threatens who you are, perhaps you should consider changing who you are.

[@galasitygaming]

Depends on the law suit and who you are, but for Apple’s cases? Hell yeah

[@BlueEyedVibeChecker]

Depends. There was that lawsuit in the US that sued a fuel company for charging LESS than the competition who were overselling the product to car owners. And since the US likes money more than people, it let the good company take the fall. Pretty sure Shell was involved if I remember correctly.

[@Agsotro]

As an Apple user - f**k Apple as a company

[@matt5721]

Yep. I learned computers on a Performa and am a sys admin for an all-mac company. I tossed their shit out of my personal life 15 years ago cause it's trash.

[@noahjaybee]

I didn't realize it was weird to turn off haptics for typing. I swipe to type on Android so haptics would be weird, but even when I i was iPhone I hated it.

[@robertcook7144]

No one will see this but I can say I said it so....In regards to the limiting of screen time piece, I listen to the WAAn show while working out. Yeah I get funny looks when I suddenly burst out in laughter but it works.

[@LeanderLoomans]

I saw this :)

[@chadlecraft4971]

I am evaluating mobile device management software and one issue I am in running into is I must own a Mac to use their Apple Configurator software. Why don’t they make a windows version.

[@R6ex]

I'm Happy Apple Is Getting Sued too! 🤩

[@beardsntools]

Apple should get sued out of existence and it would be 100% deserved lmao

[@hollyc5417]

@@beardsntoolsnot going to happen and you will have to cope with macs being 30% of the pc platform in the US and 65% of mobile phones.

[@matt5721]

​​@@hollyc5417lol children making false claims about market share while not understanding that even if their lies were true it wouldn't matter. Macs are inside 5% of PCs you muppet.

[@ODDEROTTERS]

Hearing Luke fighting Linus to just have any kind of positive conversation about his trip was exhausting.

[@fender10g]

"I'd rather sit in economy class on a newly retrofitted plane than business on an old plane" is absolutely the correct position.

[@Namamiri]

Those themed cafes are more for the experience not for the taste of the food

[@eichen97]

Re-watching because came late to the show gang.

[@falsemcnuggethope]

I would just start watching the stream from the start if I came mid-stream.

[@stratonarrow]

“You guys have never done art, have you?” might be one of the most brutal questions ever asked on the wan show lol

[@mskiptr]

Open the bootloaders on every device!