I’m in America! Visiting The National Railroad Museum In Green Bay!

[@neuparadigm]

Fun fact: That old-timey looking steam locomotive that lacked a display placard was just recently returned to rail at the museum. It doesn't have a placard because it is -not- on static display :) Shortly after your visit, the museum took the UP dome car seen near the end of your video into the restoration shop to be fully restored. It is estimated that it will take three years to restore that dome car. It is inside a huge tent inside the restoration garage because it has to have all the asbestos removed. Pretty interesting stuff. I got to see the restoration area during a behind the scenes tour not long after your visit to the museum. Thanks for visiting Green Bay :)

[@Victorian_steam]

@@neuparadigm great to have been there! How cool!!

[@thunderbird1921]

Couple of fun facts: One, the Big Boy you looked at here (4017) was one of three engines in that class Union Pacific considered restoring to operation before 4014 was eventually selected. Second, the sign with the A4 you showed mentioned Eisenhower's 1952 presidential campaign here in the US (which of course he won). One of the engines that was assigned to pull his campaign train that year actually still exists, and occasionally runs in tourist service: Norfolk and Western 611!

[@Victorian_steam]

Some awesome stuff! Thanks for the watch!

[@ИринаРатникова-т7п]

Спасибо за интересную экскурсию😊 живу в россии и мне очень нравятся американские паровозы❤❤❤❤

[@Mr.E723]

Great video! If you get the chance, try to get to the Illinois Railway Museum in Union, Illinois. It’s even bigger, it’s the largest railway museum in the country. They don’t have a Big Boy or an A4 but their collection is huge and very impressive.

[@Victorian_steam]

@@Mr.E723 on my next trip definitely!!!

[@Rheilffordd]

Great video, eagerly anticipated this one! You pretty much got to see all the world’s greatest locomotives, in the flesh, under one roof! Always loved a GG1 as well as A4 and Big Boy! And it’s humbling to see, how very common railway museums are with each other irrespective of where they are in the world

[@Victorian_steam]

Cheers for the watch!!! Nothing beats that tiktok video though haha !!!

[@joelpaltzer8732]

I miss this museum. I went from being taken here by my grandmother to taking my girlfriend of 8 years to our first date here. It truly feels like a special place. Now that I'm out in Colorado I really miss this museum. Thanks for giving me a glimpse into how things have changed in the last few years, so happy to see you enjoyed it as much as I have!

[@Victorian_steam]

Thanks for watching!!!

[@TheAreotrain]

The railway post office is accurate to the way it was in operation, they would catch mail on the move with a hook on the side of the car and a crew would sort it while in motion. If they could the would drop the mail off at stations on the move as well. Should be noted that while the RPO's were painted to and maintained by the railroads, they were government ran post offices. Glad you enjoyed the museum, have been there many times!

[@Victorian_steam]

@@TheAreotrain thanks for the info!! and thanks for watching !!!!!!

[@drewzero1]

I think they recently finished restoring the RPO car, and I was hoping to check it out when we visited in June... We got a bit preoccupied with all of the paw patrol activities 😂 the downside of going with kids, but darn, we'll just have to go back in the fall for the great pumpkin train! I was a little sad to see they swapped it with the dynamometer car in the outside covered storage. It was really cool to see all of the measuring and recording equipment in there.

[@LionkingCMSL]

The car with the plow is not a brake van, it is just a snow plow. The wheel in the center operated the flanger, a device that cleared the sides of the rails of packed snow so the flanges didn't ride up and over the rail. The flanger had to be raised at switches (points), rail crossings, and road crossings. Later models of plows had air-operated flangers.

[@Victorian_steam]

Cheers for that!! Some very cool stuff!

[@JohnSchuster-yc6dp]

Welcome to Wisconsin, be careful of the always braking drivers and the drunks. Tips and tricks from a wisconsian.

[@BadgerlandRailVideos]

Truth.

[@Victorian_steam]

Back home but cheers!!

[@jacobschahczinski1441]

This the the truest thing I’ve seen in a while

[@JohnSchuster-yc6dp]

@@jacobschahczinski1441 thank you

[@AL-pc6bl]

You're forgetting to say stay out of milwaukee and you'll be fine

[@paulzeigler7616]

Ive never visited this museum, so thanks for the tour. I think you have a very pleasant voice and very professional way of narrating without going overboard and talking too much. Excellent video! This museum has a very diverse collection representing early railroading from all across the US. The US Mail coach they have is awesome. In the latter part of the 1800's and the early part of the 1900's most of the mail in the US was collected, sorted and carried by rail....and mail was sorted on the fly. The Sleeper car was also interesting, there aren't a lot of sleepers that have been well preserved. If you have more time in the US ...in my view, some of the most comprehensive "static" display railroad museums in the US are the California RR museum in Sacramento, the Illinois RR museum, and my two favorites, the B&O RR museum in Baltimore and the Pennsylvania RR museum across the street from Strasburg RR museum. Honestly, I'm kind of getting tired of all the KZbin hype on the UP Bigboy. That engine represented such a small percentage of locomotive types used across the US. As far as historically significant operating steam railroads, if you ever get back to the US, Id recommend the Cumbers & Toltec, Durango & Silverton, White Pass & Yukon, and especially, East Broad Top here in my home shop. Of all the places I've visited these museums and operating railroads were the most amazing.

[@Victorian_steam]

Thanks so much !!! Glad you enjoyed! The American history is absolutely fantastic!! Will Be back and be doing a train focused holiday one year !!

[@sf87yomata]

LOVE this museum, always go to their events!

[@johnwayneaquaria8770]

Love to see it, I’m local to the museum and really love going there to check out their stock. So much history and heritage preserved. Glad you enjoyed it 👍

[@Victorian_steam]

Cheers!!

[@MygrandpasTrain]

Thanks for the video of the museum! I'm a local and have visited many times, but not recently. Looks like they are finally expanding!

[@Victorian_steam]

They absolutely are!

[@Tundraviper41]

As a Resident of the State of Michigan, I had to pleasure of being able to ride the Pere Marquette 1225, or best Known as the Polar Express! History: 1225 is a "N-1" 2-8-4 "Berkshire" type Steam locomotives, the Pere Marquette and her sister train 1223, are the only two Engines of its class left in existence. (of a Class of 12 total Locomotives) Built in 1941 in the month of October by the Lima Company, she and her sisters would serve active careers on the Pere Marquette Railway Company, who used the Trains by moving Freight and war Materials between the industrial cities for the second world war, and would continue to shuttle freight until 1951 where the Engines were decommissioned. Many of her sisters would eventually be scrapped however, leaving 1225 and 1223 sitting in the Scrapyards. In 1957, 16 years after they were built, The University of Michigan's university of engineering would then be approached and offered to be just GIFTED the Locomotive, as a result a group of MSU students would Form the Michigan State Railroad Club to take care of the Engine. After a Few years of Hard work fixing up and Fabricating Parts missing from the Engine to get it working again (for context the parts needed to fix 1225 were no longer in Production, and the people entrusted with 1225's sister, 1223 refused to allow parts to scavenged from the train to fix 1225. So they set out to manufacture the missing parts as the Club was Also in luck as they were also gifted the original blueprints of 1225, including even a prototype blueprint of 1225s class, which would later be used to inspire the Movies Polar express train.) To this Day, the 1225 still runs a few excursions a year, famously starting in 2004, she started running excursions from Owaso Mi, to Ashley Michigan as the "Polar Express" of Which the Engine was the real life inspiration for the Film. Her Sister Train 1223 proudly sits on Public Display in Grand Heaven Michigan and is maintained and preserved. Although a terrible side event regarding 1223 happened as of 2020, when the Train was Vandalized along with a Vintage Pere Marquette company Caboose which was provided to be displayed with the train, was also damaged by the Vandals.

[@Victorian_steam]

Awesome! Thanks for sharing

[@NicholassTrainChannel]

Nice video mate. What an awesome museum there are some very iconic locomotives such as the big boy and the A4. I like how there is a rail loop around the museum very cool and I wish more museums had that.

[@Victorian_steam]

Absolutely!!! What a place

[@Letshavefunwithcheetah]

Love this video my dad if he seen this would be absolutely mind blown and will think he has went back to his childhood playing with trains back in the 70s

[@Victorian_steam]

That’s amazing !!

[@Jamestravelclass]

Absolutely fantastic video mate

[@Victorian_steam]

Many thanks!

[@kclassproductions]

Everything looks awesome mate! Great video.

[@Victorian_steam]

Cheers!!

[@DavesTrainsAndAutomobiles]

Awesome video of everything. I was there last month and you right it was so breathtaking to see and touch the big boy. I'll be going back again soon 😎👍

[@Victorian_steam]

Cheers!! I wish I could go back!

[@Balerio2357]

Nice museum with quite a collection of rolling stock, really liked the drumhead section, excellent video! I enjoyed the entire video and have also subscribed to your channel : ) Greetings from Southern California; - Larry

[@Victorian_steam]

Welcome to the channel!!

[@maxwellwalcher6420]

I have some Future Steam Locomotives to steam and did you saw Dwight D Eishnhower.

[@adriaanboogaard8571]

It was nice to see the French gratitude car. There's one in Utah at the Ogden railway museum. Sadly, it's not so well cared for. It used to be identical to the one in your video but it was at a Veterans memorial park but was relocated and badly repainted and sits outside.

[@Victorian_steam]

Wow!

[@drewzero1]

I've never tried the open car because my kids love the bilevel car so much (and to be completely honest so do I) but I can't believe the view I've been missing! The windows facing the inside of the loop are clouded, which was and still is a common problem for commuter trains that operate back and forth every day facing the same direction.

[@Victorian_steam]

Thanks for watching !! Loved the open car

[@mfee2079]

If you havent, you need to see the 4014 bigboy in action. Seeing one on static display is nice, seeing that monster running is something you will never forget.

[@Victorian_steam]

I was planning to go see it but it just didn’t fit in my schedule !

[@YJRail]

12:18 So what you are looking at is a Pershing class, these consolidations were essentially USATC-160s but for the First World War. You're looking at one of three survivors out of 1500 built for that class. Number 101 here served in WW1, WW2, and the Korean War and served for the Korean National Railroad until 1958 when she was donated to the museum as a gift from the Korean people.

[@Victorian_steam]

Awesome info!! Cheers !!

[@adriaanboogaard8571]

Wonderful museum. I would love to go sometime. I went to Old town Sacramento years ago and I was impressed especially with the giant Cabforward Locomotive built especially for the tunnels and snow sheds of the Sieara Nevada mountains. The only one I've seen bigger is the Bigboy in person.

[@Victorian_steam]

I would love to see the cab forward !

[@bob_._.]

The Aerotrain coaches were GM transit bus bodies widened to be the normal width of railcars. From what I've read, they were not nearly stiff enough for use on rails.

[@Victorian_steam]

Oh wow how strange !

[@mckinleysku4271]

Great video! this is the town I live in and we go probably once a week to see the trains or ride on them, and in winter, they host a real life polar express event with actors as characters from the movies and hot chocolate and more. This is great place to visit if you're ever planning to go to green bay.

[@Victorian_steam]

Cheers for watching !

[@neuparadigm]

And the Polar Express sold out basically instantly this year. Madness.

[@RailfanMichaelR.3103]

Here is something cool, The CN E9Ar #103 is new to the museum, maybe been there a few months. the CN 1563 is an ex-Wisconsin Central unit

[@Victorian_steam]

Awesome stuff!

[@neuparadigm]

I would love if they restored that E9 to operational condition

[@RailfanMichaelR.3103]

@@neuparadigm me too, would love to go see that running

[@WisconsinRailProductionsoff]

Welcome to Wisconsin! As a proud Wisconsin foamer I hope you enjoyed the museum and your other train experiences that day

[@Victorian_steam]

Thank you so much!! Was amazing! Cheers for watching !

[@michaelhall8586]

Looks amazing!

[@Victorian_steam]

It was !!

[@YourLocalRailfan]

I WAS JUST THERE TOO! If you saw CN 103 there when it was outside that’s my pfp

[@Victorian_steam]

Nice!!

[@CharmaneTaylor-i1x]

Amazing stuff Kiran, so glad you went❤

[@Victorian_steam]

Thanks !

[@danielmkubacki]

So cool!

[@Victorian_steam]

It is!!

[@yambo59]

FYI - - A few years ago Big Boy #4014 was selected by the Union Pacific railroad and COMPLETELY restored to better than new running condition, theres lots of video of the nut and bolt restoration and tons of footage of it running and pulling cars today - if you live in the right part of the country you could possibly find out when it can be seen running today-!!!

[@Victorian_steam]

Was gonna see it but no time !

[@justyndionne1201]

Nice video love it i got to see the up Big Boy in person running on its own power on July 11 and 12 it was amazing

[@Victorian_steam]

Awesome! Cheers for the watch!

[@12361870]

Hey that sounds like @KillerBee giving the tour on the train ride! He has a KZbin channel worth checking out talking about some of the details of railroading and lots of local railroad history Welcome to Green Bay! Glad you had the chance to see the museum!

[@Victorian_steam]

@@12361870 was great to be there!! Cheers for watching

[@thomasosborn5823]

If you ever come back to the states, in Duluth, Minnesota is a "Yellowstone" 2-8-8-4 locomotive #227

[@Victorian_steam]

Will have to see it!

[@TroublesomeSlateTruck]

Good Work On The Video.

[@Victorian_steam]

Cheers!!

[@fabrizioviscardi40]

Fantastic movie, cheers Fabrizio - like 1

[@Victorian_steam]

Thanks for the visit!

[@fabrizioviscardi40]

[@fabrizioviscardi40]

@@Victorian_steam Thanks to you for sharing!

[@erikkola8078]

Go up to Duluth, MN as see the Yellowstone loco

[@neuparadigm]

Bonus fun fact: The Aerotrain was an absolute flop. While designed to travel at 100 mph, it shook VIOLENTLY approaching 70 mph. The railcars were designed to be like a bus, had air shocks that were bouncy and horrible. Its light weight would have been better suited to light rail and slower service rather than high speed service. Only two were ever made. They are an important piece of history because they stand as examples of how important adhesion is and why railcars can't just be made of lightweight materials.

[@Victorian_steam]

Cheers for the info!!!

[@trainman9024]

a museum here in australia was offered the A4 Commenwelth of Australia from BR but they couldn't afford the cost of shipping

[@clockwork3494]

Did they ever try a fundraiser to gather funds for shipping? I've heard the story the engine was offered to us but never if there was a fundraiser to cover costs, always sounded like there was very little care from us Aussies to claim the engine instead and thus it was scrapped. Considering there had previously been rather successful campaigns for rail preservation here, it's a wonder we didn't have a shot at it too for Commonwealth of Australia, would've been a very unique engine to have out here.

[@Victorian_steam]

How interesting!!

[@Victorian_steam]

Pretty amazing it was looking to come here!

[@trainman9024]

@@clockwork3494 no idea all I know is that we were offered a loco that's it

[@johnd8892]

There were also ex LMS Jubilee class locomotives that were named after each state in Australia. When discussing that it would have been nice to have the nameplates sent to each ARHS state branch in Australia, with a senior British Railways official, he said that would have been instantly approved by British Railways at the time of scrapping if they had asked. He further added that if they had asked then they could have had all these state named locomotives. Obviously nothing happened back then, but the shipping cost and where to keep them would have stopped that. The A4 was offered to ARHS NSW due to the gauge compatibility. However they were struggling to raise enough funds to keep the likes of 3801 and others preserved let alone expanding to foreign locomotives.

[@marcothecool2001]

You should definitely visit the Illinois Railway Museum.

[@Victorian_steam]

One day!!

[@ILSRWY4]

Should have gone to the Illinois Railway Museum, the largest train museum in the United States and possibly one of the largest in the world.

[@Victorian_steam]

Next time !!

[@Quantum0388]

19:54 THE MILWAUKEE ROAD

[@mpetersen6]

It's a damn shame they scrapped all of the Hiawatha's

[@PecanPan]

Fun fact, the room thats houses the big boy was built around the big boy Fact #2 Some of the city names on mail car are still original (if it wasn’t obvious)

[@Victorian_steam]

So cool!!

[@rainlori]

The VGR's car "Macedon" was built by Pullman in Illinois.

[@Victorian_steam]

Rode in it last week!

[@richardjayroe8922]

Fun fact, there were bigger engines then the big boy however none were preserved

[@Victorian_steam]

I am aware!! Would be amazing if there were

[@richardjayroe8922]

@Victorian_steam the closest, to give an idea of size, is the N&W Y3 in the Illinois transportation museum and the Y6 (I Don remember where it is)

[@soapycloth]

My recommendation is that you go to fort Wayne Indiana to see nickel plate road Berkshire number 765

[@Victorian_steam]

Back in straya now sadly!

[@ЛЬВИНИ]

Nice video, likes from me.

[@Victorian_steam]

@@ЛЬВИНИ cheers!!

[@oohwhop716]

I have to go see the a4 I didn't know we had one in America I am a big fan of mallard

[@Victorian_steam]

Definitely!

[@BadgerlandRailVideos]

Not sure if you're still here but there are quite a few other railroad museums and sites you might enjoy in Wisconsin. - Laona & Northern or "Lumberjack Steam Train" in Laona (fairly close to Green Bay) - Riverside & Great Northern in Wisconsin Dells - 15" gauge trains including steam locomotives. They're also right next to CPKC's mainline which hosts the _Empire Builder_ and _Borealis_ Amtrak trains. - Mid-Continent Railway Museum in North Freedom (large collection of locomotives and rolling stock almost as extensive as NRM's, they offer train rides on an old mine spur off the former Chicago & Northwestern/now Wisconsin & Southern line, although they don't currently have any operational steam) - East Troy Electric Railroad Museum in East Troy, operates preserved interurban/streetcar equipment on the last surviving piece of the once extensive Milwaukee Electric Railway Co. network - Milwaukee County Zoo also has a 15" gauge train, they'll be operating their remaining steam locomotive, No. 1924, today and tomorrow 8/10 - Just south of the state line, the Illinois Railway Museum is in Union, IL. They have an operational St. Louis-San Fransisco Railway 2-10-0, No. 1630.

[@drewzero1]

Does the Milwaukee Zoo have a set schedule for when they operate their remaining steam locomotive? I'd like to make the trip so my kids can see it, I think they'd enjoy it as much as I did at their age. It's worth noting that the zoo is discontinuing its steam service in October. As I understand it, the locomotives will continue running on a scenic line near the Dells. One of their two steam locos was already sent there this spring.

[@BadgerlandRailVideos]

@@drewzero1 Yup. They have released a series of days they will be operating the 1924 through the end of this month. I got out to see it on one of the two days in ran in July, and uploaded the video a couple of weeks ago. A quick Google search should find you the other days. They also plan to announce select operation dates for September and October before it goes to the Dells.

[@Victorian_steam]

Am back home sadly but will accomodate a bigger rail holiday in future !!

[@rowsdower12]

Been awhile since I've been there but I know they redid the museum or updates??

[@Victorian_steam]

I think they are in the middle of some work!

[@western-m1a2]

Also Milwaukee Road

[@GavinHaydam]

I don’t remember what year it was but they had the 4017 running.

[@Victorian_steam]

Interesting !

[@bobbymcloughlin3452]

4:55 Gresley Bird (Pacific) For The Golden Shuttle As Named After Dwight D. Eisenhower, For His Ownership Of The Locomotive And Its Usage For His Command Train For The Terran Civil War Comeback Gresley Birds - Whyte Notation Classes Pacific = A4 MacArthur = P2 Hudson = W1 (Converted From A Galloping Sausage) Ten Wheel Mogul = B17/5 Dwight D. Eisenhower Had A Gresley Bird Known As The Golden Shuttle Chosen For Command Train In Usage Within The Terran Civil War, Hence The Locomotive Is Named After Him 4 Gresley Birds For The Silver Jubilee Silver Link Quicksilver Silver King Silver Fox That Gresley Bird Needs To Have Its Original Name Back, So That Someday There Should Be A Gresley Bird Built To Be Named After The U.S.A President That Used The Gresley Bird “The Golden Shuttle” For His Command Train, Anyway There Is A GWR Locomotive Built In The Early 2020s, The Age Of Steam Locomotives Is Returning Needs To Be 9 More Gresley Bird Pacifics Built To Be Prestigiously Named 1. Sir Ronald Matthews 2. Sir Murrough Wilson 3. Andrew K. McCosh 4. William Whitelaw 5. Charles H. Newton 6. Sir Charles Newton 7. Sir Ralph Wedgwood 8. Sir Nigel Gresley 9. Dwight D. Eisenhower ᘔ. Bert Spencer (Engineer) Miles Beevor Walter K. Whigham Lord Faringdon 5 Masterclass Gresley Birds (Replicate The Engines) Union Of The Afro-Tip (Africa Has A Tip At Its South) Dominion Of Canada Commonwealth Of Australia Empire Of India Master Of Zealand, Oceania Available With Bells & Cowcatchers Gresley Tender Set = Fuel Tender & Auxiliary Tender Corridor Variants Are For Passenger Trains That Are Accessible From DT To DT Full Width Variants Are For Suburban Style Passenger Carriages (Intercity) DT Stands For Driving Trailer

[@Victorian_steam]

Lots of info!! Cheers!

[@jacobdubielak]

I actually visited the national railroad museum in green Bay Wisconsin and the Canadan national railroad yard

[@Victorian_steam]

awesome!!!

[@TheJazsa80]

Are you going to be able to see 4014 under steam?

[@Victorian_steam]

I unfortunately didn’t get to see her!! Next time

[@69bitFigure]

BIG BOYT

[@Victorian_steam]

Big big boy

[@biobingofam]

Me:Apparently a big boy is dead from an accident and it was the 4005 big boy Railfans:😢😢😢😢😢😢😢

[@Victorian_steam]

Sad!

[@jimpikoulis6726]

Onya for flying to the United States 🇺🇸 to blow off some steam 😤😤😤😤😤😤😅😅😅

[@Victorian_steam]

@@jimpikoulis6726 ahaha!!! Was amazing to be there!

[@BuilditFunky]

You used to be able to go in the Aero cars but they were getting pretty beat up.

[@BuilditFunky]

Also, you missed my favorite. Alco GBW 315. Granted she is a diesel.

[@Victorian_steam]

Awww would’ve been nice to go in!

[@georgedoolittle7574]

*"Big Boys"* and the End of Steam Power in the USA absolutely. Made for World War 2 and were made because copper was in such a shortage because of the War. USA had been transitioning over to hybrid electric diesel engines invented by #EMD between 1918 and 1941 but World War 2 meant this revolution in railroading was sent to the US Navy first and not into the US economy so these massive steam engines and associated rolling stock were procured instead quite the last hurrah still working for Union Pacific today actually obviously as a show piece overwhelmingly as but the amount of tractive effort for these head unit locomotives truly enormous even by modern standards no interest in fuel economy with these machines quite the opposite #war 😮😮😮😮

[@Victorian_steam]

Interesting stuff! Cheers

[@yambo59]

All this old vintage equipment was designed and built with NO computers or CAD drawing progrmas, it was all slide rules pencil and paper.

[@Victorian_steam]

Amazing isn’t it!

[@mansavsingh]

As a British person I can say the nrm is better

[@mumumaaaah]

I’m a huge steam lover and hbu?

[@Victorian_steam]

Ofc !

[@Somerobloxguyofficial]

I live in wisconsin green bay💀

[@gregcroon6768]

I climbed into the firebox of 4017 when I was a kid. My dad wasn't pleased.

[@Victorian_steam]

Hahaha!! Brilliant

[@gregcroon6768]

@@Victorian_steam back in the 60's, you could climb all over them. I also climbed all over MILW 261 which has been restored. I have a pic of me sitting at the throttle of DM&IR (Duluth Massabe & Ironrange) 506. So many good childhood memories of that incredible museum.

[@jerrywestaway9316]

Great video except for the terrible music .

[@Victorian_steam]

@@jerrywestaway9316 cheers!

[@jerrywestaway9316]

@@Victorian_steam Thank You Sir . Might be my age with not enjoying that type of music