I'M LOSING MY MIND

[@triangle1332]

14:30 . The best part about hardcore is after you make it past lvl 30ish, all of these types of healers are long gone. The lowest level dungeons are legit the scariest to tank. You get 8th attempt andy and his unaware shaman friend...

[@TheNewLooter]

I might be wrong, but here's what I think happened at the Fireguard clip: -Fireguards attack the totem outside. They are now in combat with the shaman and noone else and are moving towards him -shaman drops windfury totem, which buffs the shaman, generating aggro on itself -shaman only takes offensive actions against other mobs that are not in the same instance of combat, therefore the mobs only have 1 threat on him by the time they reach the totem -also, nobody heals/buffs the shaman until he gets attacked, before that they did not enter combat with these fireguards at first

[@wookieninja8794]

6:00 damn dude. Guy jumped off Everest and ran half way around the world and that pack said "Nope we got air miles".

[@Lthemisan]

Funniest part, is that is 1:1 take on people in real life. Some people are programmed differently.

[@Lynkin66]

These are always so good. The explanations are also so nice since some of the mechanics are soooo niche

[@SlayAsmoe]

Thats honestly why i watch these lol

[@lircox]

Asmon doesn't know alot of the things he talks about though. WF Totems generate alot of aggro and are often targeted by mobs, just like happened here, shaman most likely left a totem outside

[@superbleifrei5882]

@@lircox He knows that, he just didn't see the totem... what are the other things he doesn't know?

[@lircox]

@@superbleifrei5882 did you watch the video? He makes en entire paint file drawing arguing that an outside totem aggroing the Destroyers and then once it's killed going for the WF totem doesnt make logical sense. Why? Cause he has no idea how much aggro a WF totem actually generates

[@Drecksdusler]

@@lircox His argument has logic. Let's say a totem outside had face aggro, then the elementals would have targeted the shaman next because only the shaman is in combat with them. Unless there is a healing stream totem OR someone else healing/buffing the shaman, then this would put the mobs in combat with additonal targets. The refreshing buff of a WF totem CAN pull aggro but it is VERY unlikely in this case since the shaman he has his own weapon buff which doesn't get overriden by the totem buff The most likely thing that happened here is direct z-axis face aggro from the WF totem. Buggy as fuck.

[@ReiserSvK]

In that fireguard clip the shaman drops the totems fairly late in the fight and right before the destroyers come in. Perhaps he left the totem outside which pulls the destroyers and as they were on their way to that totem, the shaman re-summons the totem in the room which caused the fireguards to reroute to the totems new position. But I am not sure if that wouldn't cause the totem to drop from the threat pool regardless. Or how far they spawn from the entrance for this to be even a real possibility. Either way a really unfortunate situation.

[@glenngehrs7913]

I thought that too, but even if that was the case the healer should've still pulled aggro off the totem by simply healing. Unless the windfury totem generates a lot of threat, which admittedly exceeds my knowledge.

[@patrickbateman7444]

Since i perished at lvl39, i can't watch these anymore, lol. The other day i had a dream that my character was still alive...that's weird right?

[@tru3sk1ll]

THat's cool, scary, and sad all at the same time

[@ultimaxkom8728]

Weird...ly sounds like a trauma.

[@patrickbateman7444]

@@ultimaxkom8728 I guess i'm still in the grieving process 😂

[@sarahfishyfish1]

I tend to have the opposite. Still alive, dreaming my character is dead

[@AkiRa22084]

Just continue playing on Classic Era.

[@Qelsar]

the uldaman clip happened to me, kinda the same way. Healer died cause of aggro, and you cant hold aggro on boss and both mobs if dps are splitting dmg, as seen in the clip. If dps split focus, threat becomes lower for you, and then when healer has to pump, he suddenly gets the aggro and dies.

[@Sidewinder84x]

This is the exact reason why you let your rage build before dangerous pulls or add spawns, rage management is what makes good tanks in wow classic (mostly talking about dungeons). If you start a fight with zero rage, or you need to save rage for the adds, call for group to wait before 5-10 sec before engaging.

[@jaytrox4599]

idk man, this boss is so easy tbh.. just tell the grp to stack, use battle shout when the mobs spawned and throw a nade into them when they come to you and you have them forever unless dps focuses them for some fucked up reason.. Chall shout isnt even needed and just a backup tool.. To be fair, i only played HC on Turtle WoW so i am not 100% sure about the differences to Classic, but from what i have seen Classic is easier at every step of the way..

[@jaytrox4599]

@@Sidewinder84x can confirm, good tanks start every pull with a decent amount of rage, dump it into threat at the start, get rid of the shield when some mobs died and use the remaining enemies to pool rage for the next pull. When possible i leave some trash alive to use as rage piñatas before pulling a boss People also forget how using battleshout does aoe threat to every mob in combat and can be used as a great tool to make adds, like the ones in ulda, run at you as soon as they spawn. There are many scenarios where using battleshout is just the best tool for initial aggro, basically any time mobs spawn in and engage in combat instantly When the big golems spawn in, you should be way ahead in threat on the boss already anyways and if you arent then it should already be dead due to the DDs high damage, so you can switch off the boss, pick them up and cleave/sunder to get enough threat on them for the healer to be safe and focus the boss again. To be fair, i spent many many hours tanking and learning these tricks to the point where i dont need to think about it anymore and just do it

[@Sevaria]

@@jaytrox4599 Thats a lot of words to cope with, when you could just say “DPS played a stupid game and won stupid prizes for the whole group”

[@candykit5382]

The big adds had full hp and healer died first. That was purely the tank failing at his job.

[@StraifuLove]

That Uldaman clip made my stomach dizzy, thank god i don't play hardcore this is terrifying as a healer player

[@CHIEF__]

I've gotta be honest, I've never absorbed a second of WoW content in my life other than the South Park episode, but I've been binging these videos all week, for some reason I'm loving learning all the stuff and seeing people fail transcends media

[@superduperman7202]

I can't even begin to think about playing hardcore. If it's not the bugs that get you or the mobs that randomly spawn and go haywire chasing you, it's the ass hat tanks and healers not knowing their game. Way too much rage just watching these clips.

[@shadowprotacal5482]

You realize this is a small portion of what happens right 95% of the time none of this happens 😂

[@superduperman7202]

@@shadowprotacal5482 I play wow. I know what the risks are, also I know myself and I do not trust myself. I

[@jocampe62]

its just another L asmon take... ofc its 100% shaman fault and its not a bug.

[@shadowprotacal5482]

@@superduperman7202 what I don't get is why people who know they don't fuck with hc have such a big opinion on it

[@janzibansi9218]

as a braindead healer (and a clicker that uses the mouse for 95% of movement, i need the other hand to smoke weed), i agree. i will dance if you tell me to, otherwise you get flash healed and i will try not to stand in fire. a lot of wipes happen cuz people expect me to remember the mechanics from last week or pull without a ready check 🤣. i tell people im an idiot, they acknowledge that im an idiot, they take me along anyway, then they mad cuz im an idiot. sorry that you did not understand that i told you will not read the guide. i also don't play hc

[@RussianAsian8D2]

Here is the answer to 10:30 clip. Totem was left outside by Shaman, Fireguard aggroes and kills totem. Group has not pulled threat on Fireguard because they are not in combat with it, only the totems are (I believe they are linked). After Fireguards run in and find the group then they become aggroed to the group after killing the totem.

[@anatolio8689]

Haven't seen Asmon laugh that hard in a while

[@Ynotkeepit]

Windfury totem actually generates a high amount of threat. A lot of times I am in groups the boss or even the mob will switch to the WF totem. I comment about it all the time when I am in groups haha

[@jasminemason1174]

Do you think it's the mobs doing a sweeping strike or a charge etc? I believe you though. In wrath I've seen magma totem targeted like 3x in a row by fixate and other mechanics

[@Ynotkeepit]

@@jasminemason1174 Maybe, it was happening last night on Twin emps but I wasn't paying attention to the move he was using.

[@ahodbikes]

Hardcore Naxx character w/ Thunderfury dying is like someone totalling their sub $10k car. Brutal man.

[@MrDevelopTV]

I don’t think you know what sub means lol

[@i_am_the_monkey_king]

The Uldaman bit, bro. 😂😂😂 That was so comedic that it's actually sad. What are the odds to be in a party where not even one member have, at least, 95 IQ?

[@Golemoid]

Quite high actually.

[@aGuywhocooks]

I have never played WoW, but feel like I have 200+ hours from watching your content and a mild grasp on how to play LOL

[@theoutlander1411]

And you're still better at the game than the average WOW player.

[@riordian2]

so you should be around level 52 with 200+ hours LOL

[@aGuywhocooks]

@@riordian2 lmao, im trying!

[@aGuywhocooks]

@theoutlander1411 one day ill experience it

[@Lostenoch]

Agreed asmons extensive knowledge and ability to break things down is great 👌

[@Duphe]

10:42 the totem was lvl 1 and pulled them from below as soon as they start fighting. they switched target by entering the room? or it is a linked mechanic like in swamplands dungeon were you have to kill the mobs before starting the fight or they will join bossfight.

[@roebuckpayne]

I’d watch the worst HC death compilation over the best SoD pvp compilation any day!

[@Lawnchair.]

why do these tanks never, and i mean NEVER, strafe? you are opening up yourself to be dazed and more easily crit. strafe to go just as fast and become able to parry, dodge, and block

[@Nelzy]

Its a healing stream totem that the fireguard are going for first, so it posible that a totem outside agroed them and the healing stream totem was leading in healing threat when they entered (cause totems have their own threat)

[@myster_ink8115]

Last clip "ARROWli" played that bad but he's actully a pretty clutch pvp hunter in wow.

[@rickardhagberg1175]

that Laughter at 4:17 reminds me of some meme laughter, great laughter

[@AkiRa22084]

Why was his Potion on CD? It seems it was on CD before the clip even started.

[@CoolitNewton]

10:05 i wonder if the windfury totem aggroed the fireguards and when he recasted his totems they moved to his location rather than it spawning new totems. never really played shaman but thats the only thing that makes sense to me on why they aggro'd from so far away and ran straight for that specific totem. overall dumb bug

[@Will2Paint]

2:20 In 10 years + playing WoW ... I have NEVER even heard of this. That's brutal.

[@terencebowlen1450]

There was a funny message on the Onyxia/Bolvar encounter, where it says that the Lvl 20 HUMAN was killed by Highlord Bolvar Fordragon....guess Bolvar himself is culling the herd :P (3:45 if interested)

[@DetachedJoy]

4:17 that was an old white power laugh that manifested itself thats so funny LOL

[@cazarka7069]

guys got aspect of the pack. true huntard in action

[@Aquaboben]

Sometimes you get it. Sometimes you get got.

[@Drumpro31]

That’s how you lose a warrior that geared? To standing still on Thad? Bro

[@stewyxtreme]

Totems in the Ambassador Flamelash room Z axis aggro. It's a known bug that's happened since WoW classic private servers.

[@sslftw]

nah he left a totem outside bro

[@Osk42]

No matter what.. dying in Naxx has to feel rough man

[@criptonewbie]

6:46 I felt attacked watching this on 1280x800

[@KanedaSyndrome]

We need a new mob type, stalker mobs, no leash, alerts all other stalkers within 200 meters and patrols and sniffs out players. 4 times larger agro range.

[@Jarikraider]

3:34 Slain by Highlord Bolvar Fordragon lol

[@Ganon999]

Can you imagine having Thunderfury on a HC character and then never being able to play that toon again. What a waste lol

[@mjorganovich]

You can transfer a Hardcore toon to a normal classic era server for free.

[@Ganon999]

@@mjorganovich Oh, well that's good lol

[@AshleyH258]

4:44 Why don't people always monitor their surroundings?? I'm always spinning the camera while casting to make sure nothing patrols right in me.

[@shockers12512]

that last one is just nature culling the weak.

[@kazdaillest]

4:21 , it was healing aggro. it hit diff

[@heavymetal06]

It just takes one bad day for the sanest person to understand their madness.

[@AnotherCrazyClown]

18:30 aggro threat was constantly changing, either the group needed to stop dps on the adds to let tank get some aggro or the tank could use retailation after challenging shout to keep aggro, after that the tank could also trade hp pot or the temporary physical immune pot to the druid, with the amount of mana druid has at the time of his death could also have healed the group or do enough damage to finish the boss lmao such bad decisions otherwise they could have easily clear it

[@Vanlifecrisis]

Yeah, i feel the dps is partially to blame there. if you see the tank struggling to get aggro you probably shouldn't lay into 3 different targets with all your might.

[@Riplee86]

Group shouldn't be on the adds, burn boss and adds despawn. You can have one person snipe out the single non-elite that trickles in, but thats it.

[@Commzor]

19:46 Am I seeing things, or does he spam 2 (Disarm) right before he dies? Yeah its a good time to disarm?

[@konstantinpospelov951]

RIP Thunderfury... Oh well.. just level up and get it again

[@jeremiahwarden5959]

The whole elevator thing can be solved by making it go down at 50% of falling speed. The fact that the solution is so stupidly simple makes it so much worse. Do they even care at their player base? Like how hard is it to make all the elevators move slightly slower?

[@benjaminyang8476]

For those who may still be confused about the fire guard aggro situation. I've never played wow but as I understand it the fireguards came and attacked the totem in the room they were in that means they aggro'd to the totem somehow which is a bug. If it was a totem outside the room then the the fire guards should have focused a player for any reason but they instead attacked the totem meaning somehow they bugged and aggro'd from somewhere that shouldn't have aggro range onto the new totem put in the room.

[@sslftw]

no it's just a wf totem that generates threat via buff

[@kahulanet]

SOD monsters be doing this shit too, starbreeze village a monster chased me out of the village to the the end of the map. I almost had to jump off LOL he quit right before i jumped.

[@absolutefolly2011]

Broken leashing Mechanics is why ill never play hc

[@steffennilsen2132]

6:00 ish, the mobs are much higher level than him making them have a longer leash timer, every spellcast reset it. You shouldnt be fighting orange mobs in HC, let alone red ones.

[@Cube930]

6:25 is my relaxation guild xD

[@Nicosuessler213]

god damn i love hardcore so much. It's the best version wow has to offer 100%

[@seraph6758]

Skeletons should be permanent in HC servers... 😆👍

[@Emperor_Shao_Kahn]

Hunter v Hunter duel clip passive pet ON wasn't the problem, not sending in and letting him run back to him after the trap expired for those few seconds was the problem.... u always keep ur pet on passive and send it in/out with a macro. Even with fucking the pet macro up he still woulda won multiple arrows before the other guy if he had hawk on instead

[@DavidSmith-wr5sj]

TIER THREE AND THUNDERFURY AND HE CANT MOVE FOR THADD?!!?! JESUS CHRIST, WHY GIVE HIM LOOT!

[@HavenGnetteryd]

how did u know he has thunderfury? the text came after the kill?

[@summerlovemvp]

look the buffs... literally thunderfury

[@ccfreakMetal]

That polarity shift tho, my god, yap you have to be a mammoth to fail over 5 seconds of a mechanic, 1 mechanic..

[@johns1307]

Warrior spamming heroic strike and taunt trying to tank is like, standard WoW behavior.

[@WunderWulfe]

lol tank at 19:00 minutes paying literally 0 attention, totally deserved

[@intoHeck1964]

15:49 damn i had a group almost wipe on this exact pack. i was pally heals and got knocked down 2x in a row so tank dropped to like 10% hp. I had to blow lay on hands and pot really early. People also kept pulling aggro. Entire fight was basically me and the shadow priest juggling heals and mana to keep everyone else alive so they could kill shit. like 30 seconds after the fight, our rogue disconnected. shit went so wrong but also just right so we all lived but holy crap.

[@JabbarTV1]

the mara one was bad but the uldaman's one was the most stupid, no fears, no helping the healer, not even zerging boss at the end just pure schizo

[@surgeon23]

You are wrong with the totems aggro, buffs generate aggro too.

[@elite1234564]

There are no “Mistakes” in Hardcore

[@loganpittfitt]

Asmon, PLEASE petition blizzard to keep a few wrath classic servers alive !!

[@dubious6718]

Blizzard like to kill them self. I would be playing TBC if it was possible, but instead I'm watching videos of people playing.

[@bmo14lax]

​@@dubious6718are their TBC servers up too? Or only wrath+ classic+ hardcore? Im so out of the loop on official old servers

[@JesziePVP]

hardcore is the best version of the game that ever existed. wish they would do faction balanced pvp HC realms

[@almostfaceman]

The guys yelling and hitting the drama button while voluntarily playing hardcore - either they're hamming it up or they're figuring out what "fuck around and find out" means. I mean, you decide to pick daisies in a minefield don't complain when you get your leg blown off.

[@VaImorian]

That last Hunter is the definition of Huntard kekW

[@RoBert-on1kb]

HC is doing a decent job highlighting all the flaws of that old as fuck video game

[@EvilNecroid]

13:02 could the tank have picked up those 2 or would they still be fucked?

[@BrennenL]

The clip of Nick The Healer is SOOOO SAD....

[@hypnotic13371337]

How do so many of these guys have like, 15 addons and nothing for enemy HP??????

[@Broady25]

Not gunna lie I know nothing about WoW, but I love these videos! Every time Asmongold makes the same face Bale maked in American Psycho I get giddy in anticipation for the death!

[@Nathiest2]

I guess he's not going to fill out that GM survey.

[@Danothyus1]

that group in uldaman thought they were playing final fantasy XIV going with 4 ppl.

[@KyosheeKosh]

they discover only DEATH

[@davidhaaijema4521]

why does the range never cross the room on that flame dude in BRD xD

[@JasonDkiran]

Omg I love these , please do these daily .

[@scottch4444]

16:20 Here I am watching Asmon, who is watching a WoW streamer, who is watching Hasan, who is watch Ben Shapiro.

[@kalestiyapetrovna9962]

That uldaman group have world buffs and still manage to wipe omfg

[@jamescassady4629]

To clarify it was not a bug at the brd clip it was in fact totems outside in the hall, if you watch it again you can see two totems in the hall outside the boss room once they run out and the dude petris and they were there before the shaman ran out

[@AkiRa22084]

Those totems would have been destroyed if they did pull aggro. It's more likely to be Z axis totem aggro.

[@2004philm]

If you watch closely you will see that when they first run to the top of the ramp there are no totems. The shaman only puts it down after he reaches the top of the ramp. Also its impossible that the totem you see in the end of the clip is the totem that pulled the mobs since its a WF totem and the shaman already reapplied that in the boss room. It's a known Z axis Bug in this room.

[@sslftw]

@@2004philm We don't see the totems outside but still more likely it's just a traditional totem pull, nothing to speak against it. Asmon's aggro argument is just wrong

[@okami-chansenpai5089]

What I wanna know is in that vid with the totems explanation how did the tank take dmg while petri'd that almost killed him🤔🤔🤔

[@QuintessentialSupport]

Tank used Last Stand for a health boost, and while petri'd, the buff ended and he lost the health he had gained from the buff.

[@nasarato2]

This title wouldve been perfect for how the Path of Exile 2 react went

[@TheMightyDevilLuis]

The elevator ones are the best 😂

[@mekkiepoo]

Knaus.... never play a Tank ever again...

[@nilshausmann473]

not sure about the totem aggro, some buffs generate insane aggro so Id imagine the totem may have generated more buff aggro than the healer

[@duck_t4039]

WF totem could've buffed the totem outside. Thus the aggro linking the way it did.

[@sslftw]

Yeah definitely what happened. It's the same story for every clip I've seen from Flamelash. You can also see the healer not generating threat for like 8+ seconds before (he casts as the mobs come but aborts it). Also at 08.04 I swear I see the fireguard change directions towards the totem, coincidentally this is exactly when WF pulses (but on this point I'm not convinced). Either way asmon is most likely just confidently incorrect on this one.

[@dommguard]

The boar pet at the end "MyBoyfriend" KEK

[@brandonboss6868]

No matter what, just stay focused on the boss fight.

[@thelegionisnotamused8929]

I like the CSI: WOW edution.

[@hooplah8557]

i swear there was multiple times he sounded like patrick bateman in this video

[@zakar348]

Uldaman Boss winning with 42 life true chad

[@ziplocktheimpostor1402]

🤣 as soon as it starts asmon"s reaction.... Oh nooo not on naxx oh nooo.. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣He really fast spotted every detail enough to know it went south real bad...🤣🤣🤣🤣 Asmons many many 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️ Is pure comedy gold

[@nwilliamcowan1016]

Have they even been fixing any of the old bugs, or are all the people that did those fixes gone?

[@nixsilvermist5598]

Those fire mobs that aggro’d are a bug, sometimes pulls from aoe abilities below. Because those mobs are above that boss Least remember that happening when tanking that place

[@mjzangenberg]

The healer was far away xD come on look at the fucking minimap , he's on mars

[@birdwatcher1337]

More power to you if you want to play hardcore in WoW but I cannot think of a worse idea. I will literally never do that. What a waste of time. There are too many bugs and bullshit deaths that happen in Classic WoW for me to ever consider doing hardcore.

[@ohmyonionpie]

"they should fix that" oh they wont lol, literally ever

[@curtj52]

Bro I wouldn’t set foot into Uldaman on hardcore that was their first and only mistake 😅

[@wobblysauce]

Ulda… the lock is 43.

[@shadowprotacal5482]

That tank in mara with under 3k hp what do you expect

[@1coreywest]

You can tell Assmangold is soooo done with WOW and wants to have nothing to do with it for the rest of his life buttttt he has to for his livelihood. I love it

[@TheDhac]

That last hunter is from new world lol

[@senpaitriton]

Anyone else like to see him rage?