"I'M NOT SURPRISED..'" POET & WTP ON CHRIS KABA SITUATION!!

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@winnerstalkingpodcast
@winnerstalkingpodcast Ай бұрын
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@dustcore
@dustcore Ай бұрын
The sad fact is, if Kaba was killed by another black person, we wouldn't be having this conversation
@TheDjSweets
@TheDjSweets Ай бұрын
The simple fact you haven’t got 1 like for your comment is where it is bro. Nobody don’t wanna hear them truths.
@adamsharrocks8212
@adamsharrocks8212 Ай бұрын
You can see that in the fact that nobody wants to talk about the shooting Kaba himself was involved in.
@theoappah8113
@theoappah8113 Ай бұрын
It's not sad. It's a reality of life. You expect good things from those professing to be decent people. In fact we demand it. If a decent looking suited man addressed you disrespectfully, most people will react negatively but if it was a stinking crackhead, most people will ignore it and walk away. Also think about this. If a white area has lot of crime, will the residents of that area go and pressure the criminals to stop committing crime or are they pressuring government and police. What's sad is people not expecting black people to demand any responsibility from public services.
@RandomVideosFirst
@RandomVideosFirst Ай бұрын
@@TheDjSweets he has 48, and hes spitting facts
@RandomVideosFirst
@RandomVideosFirst Ай бұрын
yep, its fake up roar when you deep it
@eon001
@eon001 Ай бұрын
Nah I grew up in South London. I'm not going to pretend people like Kaba didn't make my life a nightmare. I had more issues with road men than I had with police.
@louieee444
@louieee444 Ай бұрын
Exactly! We all did and still do. Would much rather have police standing on street corners than a group of black men, hooded up, smoking weed and listening to crap music out loud
@Hypersonik
@Hypersonik Ай бұрын
Of course, but part of the control is that you must not turn on 'our people' and other bullshit. If 'our people' do stupid shit, they have no association with me. There are dickheads and pricks in every walk of life, every job, including the police. Understand this, don't trust them, but don't give them a reason to throw the book at you. Despite being white, I have had the police come for me and lie about what I did. They didn't give two shits when I said I have a video of a copper doing illegal shit restraining me. Lesson learned - don't trust them, film them, respect them and their instructions. At least the police follow rules of somesort. I'm quite sure gangland invokes kangaroo court at the drop of a casing...
@mkdon86
@mkdon86 Ай бұрын
We gotta start holding ourselves accountable we can’t act however we want and expect 5 star policing
@captacao528
@captacao528 Ай бұрын
Thank you
@Winston_Chu
@Winston_Chu Ай бұрын
Who is we? That guy is from Congo
@mrnumba154
@mrnumba154 Ай бұрын
​@@captacao528Facts!
@Rosebuddz_Revenge
@Rosebuddz_Revenge Ай бұрын
💯
@mkdon86
@mkdon86 Ай бұрын
@@Winston_Chu just mean as black peoples in general
@whysohandsome3376
@whysohandsome3376 Ай бұрын
Chris kaba was a brixton 67 demon. He's literally the reason the whole harlem spartans and 67 vs 150 and 410 beef all started.
@aaronthomas9091
@aaronthomas9091 Ай бұрын
He gave his opps headache
@shanecrossly9223
@shanecrossly9223 Ай бұрын
The last person u wanted to see if u was his opps. Certified demon
@Coco-uk9tv
@Coco-uk9tv Ай бұрын
​@@shanecrossly9223😮
@Likklemissssssss
@Likklemissssssss Ай бұрын
Really, explain?
@jermainewilson9660
@jermainewilson9660 Ай бұрын
No disrespect but this guy shot up another guy in a crowed club and then chased him down the street.....At this point he was either gonna kill an innocent person or be killed....as to by who wouldn't even matter......If he had got by the same guy he shot at in the club the narrative would be different.....It would make the news for that day only .......So i don't have sympathy at this point....
@deanivan3951
@deanivan3951 Ай бұрын
He didn't know how to act, God sent the call, the end!
@alphahotel9156
@alphahotel9156 Ай бұрын
Why does God not send for Israel lol
@achimuka
@achimuka Ай бұрын
@@alphahotel9156why should he?
@alphahotel9156
@alphahotel9156 Ай бұрын
@@achimuka terrorism from a terrorist state
@mikebassett9195
@mikebassett9195 Ай бұрын
I always look at things in terms of innocent people. The reason no one cares about this situation is because these roadman make peoples lives a living hell. The same time I think police need to calm down because they can also put peoples lives at risk.
@thankqvellymuch1604
@thankqvellymuch1604 Ай бұрын
Remember the officer who got acquitted, did so with the jury having no knowledge of chris' background. That information only came out because a judge lifted the order for his background be not be revealed. His mum tried to get that order to remain so that info wouldn't have been available for at least a few years but the judge rejected this request. We can sit here right now and say this and say that, but at the end of the day he shouldn't have done what he done trying to ram his way out. That car was followed for 15 minutes from camberwell to tulse Hill where they tried to stop him. The car was linked to not 1, not 2, but 3 shootings hence the heavy handed tactics used. We are not police, we cannot sit here and say oh, should have shot his tires, should have tased him etc, its embarrassing. Mad itch is actually a real indication of his character. The cctv footage was cold was hell, the way he pops the strap one time so calmly, this guy was calculated and a very dangerous man. It's sad that he chose to go out the way he did because for you to have a bag of armed feds pointing their guns at you, you must be mad to try ram you way out. I mean as a gunman, in your heard, you must really know when the armed feds come knocking they ain't pointing guns to scare or tickle you are they. If anyone has done jury service or been involved in a case before, you will know just how much evidence and arguments are presented at trial. Most of the opinions people seem to have is based of emotions rather than facts. Bringing race and murder into question. It's embarrassing to even be in conversation with people who have this mentality, common sense is seriously not common any more. RIP Itch but it should have never ended this way. Not only has he lost his life, the officer involved has also lost his life he had. He can never live a normal life for himself and his family ever again. This country has been soft and always will be and criminals think they can do whatever they want. If it's so bad here go be a criminal in another country and see how far you get. If you ever been stopped by armed feds, let's not pretend you're a normal guy working an admin role with no links to crime whatsoever. The logic of these arguents is so flawed and blinded by your angry and hurt emotions rather than what it really is. The truth hurts, and it really goes to show here.
@maisiemai9781
@maisiemai9781 Ай бұрын
Why do you think there were no armed police for the white man running around with a sword, who k*lled that 14 year black boy and sta**ed others?
@rationalreasoning5612
@rationalreasoning5612 Ай бұрын
Good clear well reasoned argument. Objective and not emotional.
@topps19891
@topps19891 Ай бұрын
👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿🎯
@saab2906
@saab2906 Ай бұрын
The officer lost his life? How do u no he’s not laughing about it in the pub with his mates u woke lot need to stop acting like u have all the answers
@maisiemai9781
@maisiemai9781 Ай бұрын
@@thankqvellymuch1604 Marcus monzo.
@captacao528
@captacao528 Ай бұрын
I’m sorry but when armed police are involved pointing guns at you, you should immediately comply it’s not worth being shot, Chris Kaba wasn’t taking accountability for his own actions going bare faced then shooting someone and he gave the police difficult a decision to make.
@marvinwright7656
@marvinwright7656 Ай бұрын
💯
@maisiemai9781
@maisiemai9781 Ай бұрын
Apparently the police did not know it was Chris kaba and apparently he did comply to everything he was told. That officer did not have to shoot him in the head.
@SM-fk5or
@SM-fk5or Ай бұрын
@@maisiemai9781 really? Because I very much doubt the police told him to ram the car he was driving into them. If he stopped like they told him to and he got shot then you’d have an argument
@blaqueruby4946
@blaqueruby4946 Ай бұрын
You’re prob not a man. He had less than 3 seconds to make a decision. Whatever he did, he would have been killed. The police have there excuse that works time and time again, “colleagues were in danger and feared for our lives”
@greengemaudio4830
@greengemaudio4830 Ай бұрын
@@blaqueruby4946 'You’re prob not a man. ' Yeah here we go shaming because somebody doesn't agree with you. There is a lot of footage online for many criminals who are black different races and when they scream armed police they comply and they don't get shot. You're so hard to excuse this guy behaviour.
@MachiaBarrington
@MachiaBarrington Ай бұрын
Poundz the only one acknowledging that this guy was on crud
@eon001
@eon001 Ай бұрын
Full salute for the honesty. Road men no the reality. Kaba drove at armed cops. Racist cops they want to delete you. Let's not kid ourselves.
@omz2real175
@omz2real175 Ай бұрын
Most GMs are on crud, but they're not being shot whilst they're unarmed by people who are trained professionals. Bun Babylon
@teeboy5224
@teeboy5224 Ай бұрын
Stop making excuses…if this was the case of a law abiding citizen then uproar is needed…but talking about a brudda who shot another brudda prior…live by that guys and die by it…Babylon ain’t worried if you busy bussin shots at your own
@jayabreezy1256
@jayabreezy1256 Ай бұрын
@@omz2real175 O shut up, you happy with Chris committing genocide within our communities but bun babylon? you're a wasteman
@LONDON80
@LONDON80 Ай бұрын
@@omz2real175my guy.. you’re sticking up for a man that would probably g check you or rob you all for the gram. Fuck him!
@SM-cb9sz
@SM-cb9sz Ай бұрын
Sad situation. I do find it strange how we come together more when police kill us vs one of our own. I think we need to reverse a lot of hypnosis done on us throughout history. We somehow see attacks on one another as ‘part of the game’ when we should be trying to work out who created the rules to this so called ‘game’
@Huwandahero
@Huwandahero Ай бұрын
1000%
@DJJonnyBizzle
@DJJonnyBizzle Ай бұрын
Seet deh!
@doshpits
@doshpits Ай бұрын
because police are exist (at least in theory) to protect and serve, that’s merely a false equivalence. gangsterism amongst all us is a completely different topic.
@LondonMoneyCashEnterprise
@LondonMoneyCashEnterprise Ай бұрын
I don’t consider gang members that kill other gang members are own. Just cause they have the same skin color
@SM-cb9sz
@SM-cb9sz Ай бұрын
@@LondonMoneyCashEnterprisepolice do
@adamsharrocks8212
@adamsharrocks8212 Ай бұрын
Some interesting points here, but implying that an armed response unit shooting someone who refused to comply is evidence of racism is borderline dishonesty. We're not America, it's not standard procedure for police officers to carry guns. When armed police turn up to tye scene the argument about apprehension is on it's way out of the building and the only way to get it back is to comply.
@kevinthompson2217
@kevinthompson2217 Ай бұрын
Kaba was a criminal and used the audi as a weapon towards armed police what did he think was gonna happen?
@Traportrade
@Traportrade Ай бұрын
Cmon fam You shouldn’t ram ARMED FEDs how stupid is dat? ARMED!
@mrnumba154
@mrnumba154 Ай бұрын
In my opinion once you use a car to ram you are now also armed 'with a vehicle'.
@PersaV
@PersaV Ай бұрын
How
@Valter-Andrade
@Valter-Andrade Ай бұрын
@@PersaVbecause you can easily kill multiple people while in control of a vehicle
@PersaV
@PersaV Ай бұрын
@@Valter-AndradeNah not that deep he wouldn’t of been using it for that he would of been trying to escape nothing warrant him being shot in my opinion, like poet said there more of them with gun no man in there right mind going to try harm them he would of just been trying to escape which in that moment dumb cause like pounds said they want a reason to kill us anyways but something need to be changed with the system just a joke
@Valter-Andrade
@Valter-Andrade Ай бұрын
@@PersaV really? Even after the judge released all the info about kaba being a criminal?
@Huwandahero
@Huwandahero Ай бұрын
Big up poundz cause he’s speaking facts, it’s so unfortunate the death of this man but he should have known the potential prejudice in that moment. My separate gripe is as a community we need to stop having a victim mentality which resorts to moving towards criminal behaviour. That’s completely understandable choice to make 20-30 years ago when knowledge was scarce and opportunities where low but today I’m sorry but if you do these things it’s a choice there has never been a time when our culture have been more in charge of their narrative. We all come from a certain place that does not excuse the choices people make. Take responsibility for your direction and your life.
@MeschacMbuyambo
@MeschacMbuyambo Ай бұрын
They Is no such community
@whenneeded4652
@whenneeded4652 Ай бұрын
Faceless and new profile like many talking about this.
@Exzactz
@Exzactz Ай бұрын
That’s part of the game😅Can’t be gunman doing madness and expecting to be treated nicely. I hate feds but these man are looking for a brudda they know shot up a public event. This weren’t a innocent guy or mistaken identity.
@kj5394
@kj5394 Ай бұрын
They didn't know at the time
@Exzactz
@Exzactz Ай бұрын
@@kj5394 The police knew, that’s why they were after him. It was just not allowed to be told to the jury or the public so it wouldn’t bias their verdict
@blaqueruby4946
@blaqueruby4946 Ай бұрын
@kj5394 They didn’t know who was in the car... Even if they were after him for something separate, they did not know it was him. They didn’t know who was driving the car. All they knew was that the car was involved in something the day before... someone could have borrowed the car and the innocent owner be driving it...they would have shot them. That’s the point if the case
@michaele3651
@michaele3651 Ай бұрын
@@blaqueruby4946 Do you think they're blind? Or have you not seen the body cam footage? They could clearly see it was him inside the car.
@Exzactz
@Exzactz Ай бұрын
@@blaqueruby4946 this is just foolishness😂
@TingTing-f1b
@TingTing-f1b Ай бұрын
Play stupid games , win stupid prizes . The authorities knew exactly what they were doing with regards to revealing the real Chris Kaba and slammed down Domino on all people protesting . He was out of control and would have had nothing but a continuous negative impact on the community . Let’s protest with us much passion when it’s Black on Black crime 🙏🏽
@whenneeded4652
@whenneeded4652 Ай бұрын
Too many brand new profiles just for a talk like this.
@blackpound2297
@blackpound2297 Ай бұрын
2024 we’re still making excuses. Our community will not move forward unless we take accountability for our actions. Poundz said he won’t speak against our community, in some ways that is admirable but in other ways it justifies and enables negative attitudes.
@HaleyChain-vw8rr
@HaleyChain-vw8rr Ай бұрын
Community ?
@Ggghjjnmkijju8899o
@Ggghjjnmkijju8899o Ай бұрын
Pounds said it 💯, this is the reality. Road and family don't mix. We are aware of the life we choose.
@khalidsl686
@khalidsl686 Ай бұрын
We offer our deepest condolences to the family for the loss of their child. Losing a child is never easy, regardless of the circumstances. However, it is important to recognize personal accountability, and families should be aware of what their children are involved in outside the home. The CCTV footage released by the police provides a clearer view of Chris’s life. Sadly, he lived by the gun and died by it. The key message here is to stay away from street life-it offers false promises and is ultimately a dangerous path.
@andrewcohen8734
@andrewcohen8734 Ай бұрын
Pounds broke this down like he was reciting ABCDEFG... Many young people are raised by hard working, religious and law abiding parent(s), yet whilst their parents toil to make ends meet, some children succumb to the seemingly lucrative and hazardous allure of the streets and crime - it is a dichotomy fuelled by the universal goal we are taught from birth to present, to be successful. Condolences to all families of children/young people who choose the alternative (illegal) path to success and are no longer with us.
@Swft675
@Swft675 Ай бұрын
But it’s mainly blacks. What is that telling you? Parents are not involved enough.
@mikebassett9195
@mikebassett9195 Ай бұрын
@@Swft675 It's not though. Do you really think there was no crime 100 years ago when the country was all white?? Do you think crime isn't happening up north in white areas?? In england gang crime always happens in poor areas and right now in london the poor areas happen to be black people.
@Syd-kr2xw
@Syd-kr2xw Ай бұрын
Pounds is the realest man … big up
@adamsharrocks8212
@adamsharrocks8212 Ай бұрын
Criticising Martin Blake on the grounds that he was cold and calculating is ridiculous. He's an armed police officer, his job is to be cold and calculating so that his emotions don't get control of him. At the end of the day armed police aren't there to have a nice chat.
@whenneeded4652
@whenneeded4652 Ай бұрын
Only killing two people in a year says otherwise. Another brand new profile with nothing to their profile
@adamsharrocks8212
@adamsharrocks8212 Ай бұрын
@@whenneeded4652 I don't understand the comment, can you explain please?
@ilyaaseen8933
@ilyaaseen8933 Ай бұрын
We need to get Akala on the pod to fully break this down
@TheDjSweets
@TheDjSweets Ай бұрын
Why? Haven’t you got enough brain cells to break it down yourself? Which part of it are you confused with?
@infinite8767
@infinite8767 Ай бұрын
That's the thing with the young generation today, they struggle to think for themselves...
@Swft675
@Swft675 Ай бұрын
No sympathy from me.
@iordanneDiogeneslucas
@iordanneDiogeneslucas Ай бұрын
He is too busy snuggling up with madonna 😂
@teej70
@teej70 Ай бұрын
Absolutely Zero sympathy for that Kaba guy!
@DaboooogA
@DaboooogA Ай бұрын
Which one makes young black men truly fear for their life - opps or feds coming around the corner
@jessehoward9031
@jessehoward9031 Ай бұрын
"I would tell my son stop the car straight away do what they say they want to kill us anyway"
@mrforbes1750
@mrforbes1750 Ай бұрын
That new album is due
@chiefnama790
@chiefnama790 Ай бұрын
That last point by the dreaded guy was asanine. You're saying police officers shouldn't have a "survivors" mentality because the criminals they are pursuing have a more legitimate reason to be survivors, and therefore, they should be willing to sacrifice themselves? Make it make sense.
@jamizz4999
@jamizz4999 Ай бұрын
True BUT there's also a lot of parents that are well aware that their child is living jungle rules on the street.. they just don't care 🤷‍♂️. There's baaare single mums out there that happily take there child/ sons drug money with open hands.
@desmondwallace-h6c
@desmondwallace-h6c Ай бұрын
real talk
@mikebassett9195
@mikebassett9195 Ай бұрын
I would argue that the lack of proper policing allows these big estates to become lawless and at that point there is nothing parents can do.
@four8j
@four8j Ай бұрын
Pound Sterling show alot of insight, very intelligent.
@marvinwright7656
@marvinwright7656 Ай бұрын
Tbf it’s just common sense. Black people need to stop thinking subjectively when it comes to issues.. not everything is down to race.. the fool didn’t comply with arm police instructions therefore I have zero sympathy for that criminal..
@four8j
@four8j Ай бұрын
@@marvinwright7656 nowadays sense isn't common
@kyleys6294
@kyleys6294 Ай бұрын
you guys making out he was some innocent guy on his way to Tesco to do some grocery shopping. shame on you
@noblerichosseiberkoh9196
@noblerichosseiberkoh9196 Ай бұрын
Sterling speaking facts Accountability is key 🔑 We gotta be honest with ourselves
@Calvin2Cool
@Calvin2Cool Ай бұрын
When Pounds ain’t wearing his shades the convo gets DEEP
@Dimz30
@Dimz30 Ай бұрын
Facts people love to forget History. But NOT ME. respect Poet.
@Snippets635
@Snippets635 Ай бұрын
I don’t see how you can defend this one… can’t be acting a certain way and expecting 5 star policing
@whereis99
@whereis99 Ай бұрын
ramming armed feds is crazy
@SI-cd7xs
@SI-cd7xs Ай бұрын
ironically the only reason he did this is because police in the uk are generally so soft compared to other places people are used to getting away with a lot imo
@topps19891
@topps19891 Ай бұрын
​@@SI-cd7xs💯💯
@kaisasouzay4058
@kaisasouzay4058 Ай бұрын
Ramming armed feds was out of pocket, especially days after those same feds have watched you try doot another man in a packed night club. Cant live badman lifestyle then expect perfect policing 🤷‍♂️
@Winston_Chu
@Winston_Chu Ай бұрын
There's no such thing as a black community in the UK chris kaba and his parents are from congo they belong to that community so idk why everyone is saying black community
@mrnumba154
@mrnumba154 Ай бұрын
It isn't as established or homogenous as it was in the past but it still exists enough.
@buyop9441
@buyop9441 Ай бұрын
Wow, the name Winston Churchill says it all? So a black person of Congolese origin living in the UK is not part of the black community?! Please make that make sense!
@Winston_Chu
@Winston_Chu Ай бұрын
@@buyop9441 let me dumb it down for you since your not smart enough there was an stabbing murder of an British MP in a church by a African man of Somalian origin(look it up) is it fair to say that a black person stabbed that person to death or a Somalian who did that is it fair for people who are from Jamaica for example who are majority Christians to take the blame just because you share a melanated complexion like I said there is no such thing as black in the UK
@Winston_Chu
@Winston_Chu Ай бұрын
@@mrnumba154 no it doesn't people say Asians not browns even though they were part of one country in the past Kenya and Sierra Leone for example was never part of the same country they never even made contact
@TheDjSweets
@TheDjSweets Ай бұрын
@@Winston_Chu I been on the internet since 50k modem dial up. From when if someone called you on the house phone while you were online it would kick you out. I can honestly say I’ve never read so much shit in one paragraph much less your whole comment. If not for the internet eh!
@laxpmanagement
@laxpmanagement Ай бұрын
Real talk Pounds 🙏🏿
@Deemelanin7
@Deemelanin7 Ай бұрын
People in the culture aren't allowed to be honest.
@doshpits
@doshpits Ай бұрын
lol let me guess, you think his murder was just
@doshpits
@doshpits Ай бұрын
@@Deemelanin7 what distinction does that make? you wouldnt say that nonsense unless you thought it was just
@elijahisrael5149
@elijahisrael5149 Ай бұрын
We do know that police in Jamaica etc are way worse. There’s a video of an officer telling a badman he’s going to kill him and the officer apparently killed him later. Why don’t we protest about officers in Jamaica or Nigeria etc? Also why do we talk about perm getting killed by 67 and the hill after he spoke on Itch. (Even though it was by chance they caught him) and perm wasn’t innocent, man will tell you man that he bummed in their face. Some of them same hill youths but why don’t we march on their block and try to fix it. Misplaced anger.
@Taijalevy
@Taijalevy Ай бұрын
Never a truer word spoken, too many women are out here suffering the consequences of this mad life. I wouldn’t have told my son to separate from the family, but I just wish more men put some time in towards the fight, that includes attending the court and supporting the boys to understand it’s not just about them, it’s about the ones you leave behind. It’s bad enough burying your child, but the shame that comes with being headline news for the wrong reasons is enough to bury the strongest of us. RIP Chris and condolences to the family. #NOT-SHOCKED
@leep2198
@leep2198 Ай бұрын
We need to take accountability, man This is what could happen when you live dat life. Police did what they do But we have to change this backwards mentality n conditioning kmt
@catcher3
@catcher3 Ай бұрын
You speaking facts, these man make so many excuses
@CJ-kq8je
@CJ-kq8je Ай бұрын
Poet and Doug, if that was your son in the club that kaba was shooting after, or accidentally got shot, you wouldn’t have that energy….
@mikeroberts8093
@mikeroberts8093 Ай бұрын
He gang gang 2 though
@Coco-uk9tv
@Coco-uk9tv Ай бұрын
​@@mikeroberts8093Was just going to comment the same thing. It was a fellow badman that got shot, and apparently he refused to cooperate with the police, because obviously jungle laws apply.
@leenzjeenz
@leenzjeenz Ай бұрын
Insightful from pound sterling as usual ❤
@tylerooney790
@tylerooney790 Ай бұрын
If you are crazy enough to start ramming armed policemen with a car, and that car was linked with a shooting a few days before, who's to say you're not crazy enough to pull out a gun and start shooting. The policeman was in survival mode because it was literally a life or death situation. What do you expect him to do? I feel for the family but I don't see how else that situation should have played out. Should never have gone to court.
@FLYSTARTVLONDON
@FLYSTARTVLONDON Ай бұрын
I respect pound sterling views keep the family out of the wickedness I tried to keep my family away some time u can’t but I agree ☝🏾 protect the family and women and children 🙏🏾❤️💛💚🖤
@Keepingitrealpod2
@Keepingitrealpod2 Ай бұрын
poet always been a good listener he listens to understand and then he responds very intelligent brother pounds was also right distance yourself from family !!!
@MR-dp3pz
@MR-dp3pz Ай бұрын
Every time poet goes on the mic he talks shit
@glaze1984
@glaze1984 Ай бұрын
“As a Jamaican” shutup man youre English bro with Jamaican heritage. Hes so jarring honestly
@A1amiri
@A1amiri Ай бұрын
I couldn’t agree more with what’s been said in this video
@KaizerFrenchinton
@KaizerFrenchinton Ай бұрын
Wise Words... Spoken Truth By Sterling🤞🏾✨️
@Hypersonik
@Hypersonik Ай бұрын
It's interesting hearing these guys speak. 'Our people'... That is an incorrect mindset. The more you think of group speak, the more it will hold you back. I promise you, no one will pay your bills when you're sick - that's on you. I think getting out of London is they key. I spoke to one guy who is working for a northern council now and I asked him why he moved from South London. His words: 'I love my kids and I only saw gangland future for them.' Here is a guy who knew what he had to do and is flourishing. You can call the police institutionally racist all you like, but if you drive a car at them, they'll be coming for you. Not once was that mentioned here.
@FLYSTARTVLONDON
@FLYSTARTVLONDON Ай бұрын
No discrimination I rate poet and Doug views also nuff respect ❤️💛💚🖤
@Prod_by_Svengali
@Prod_by_Svengali Ай бұрын
Chris Kaba was the real life Modi
@milly1441
@milly1441 Ай бұрын
Condolences to the family because they lost someone they loved and are operating from a place of plain. However justice was served in this case his criminal past and the events of the night before were not presented to the jury. This mad was ramming his car into police in an attempt to escape. When they said hands up, he had one hand still on the wheel, then rammed the car forward seconds later.
@bricks1001
@bricks1001 Ай бұрын
This is the realest conversation. A lot of what pounds said is goong to go over people head.
@TariqAmazin
@TariqAmazin Ай бұрын
GTA lifestyle only ends one way.
@HermanRoth
@HermanRoth Ай бұрын
4:23 first time heard this said out loud. Always been fascinating to me how mandem can go outside & do man in then come help mum with the shopping like nothing happened
@mrgavincameron7002
@mrgavincameron7002 Ай бұрын
Poundz nailed it
@Shakavelli
@Shakavelli Ай бұрын
The machine ain't a joke when its on you. Further more most ain't experience the beams on them either like predator. Feds barking orders, man just wearing boxers. Kmt. Easy to understand how it can have gone sideways with one wrong move.
@TheboyCashhhhhh
@TheboyCashhhhhh Ай бұрын
Poet is real one , I don’t care what people say
@x-g1
@x-g1 Ай бұрын
I used to think that too as Poet's very wise and opinionated for his age but sometimes when it comes to certain industry players him and Chucky like to dedicate an episode to the topic to stay relevant but then sit on the fence for a couple hours and try not to offend ne1 or mess up the bag. If that's the case then swerve the convo and talk about something else. Other then that I like the guy, met him a few times n he was humble
@amosoke2646
@amosoke2646 Ай бұрын
Poet is normally very sensible but in this occasion I was very disappointed. No accountability whatsoever. All these intelligent black boyz caught up with road life are a disgrace. They have so much opportunity to be exceptional but throw it all away because of road life......IDIOTS !!!
@Paul-sz1no
@Paul-sz1no Ай бұрын
He was going to be an architect wasn’t he…..? 😂😂😂
@jayldn
@jayldn Ай бұрын
Pounds spitting facts
@AuthenticSelector64
@AuthenticSelector64 Ай бұрын
Early B….Coward yuh fi leave out the Badness
@Sirwren50
@Sirwren50 Ай бұрын
What Doug’s saying is true Chris kaba bring some of it on himself kaba shootting someone in a club has nothing to do with when the police shot him facts 💯👊🏾
@Manaman8414
@Manaman8414 Ай бұрын
WTF was Poet talking about?
@Brrrr241
@Brrrr241 Ай бұрын
RIP Chris . Question did he have a Wap in his hand at the time of death ? If not that is wrong from the officer period.
@marvinwright7656
@marvinwright7656 Ай бұрын
What?!?! Police did nothing wrong He did not comply with armed police
@DaaPoetry
@DaaPoetry Ай бұрын
Did the guy in the club have a wap in his hand when he got chased down by Chris? Make it make sense....
@mrnumba154
@mrnumba154 Ай бұрын
No he didn't have a WAP but he was using a 4 X 4 to ram his way through. As far as I am concerned at that point the car became a deadly weapon.
@Brrrr241
@Brrrr241 Ай бұрын
@@DaaPoetry The police don’t get a call and say “ because he did a shooting previously u need to shoot him onsite” and for the guy below so the reason he died was because he used his car as a weapon ok nice to know ur opinion
@Brrrr241
@Brrrr241 Ай бұрын
So far u guys have been too soft he wasn’t going to kill the officer specifically forget the night club and the police have been in multiple situations chasing cars down u watch it on crime watch all the time
@infallibl
@infallibl Ай бұрын
If you're known to the police for machines, that's how they come.. ? That's it.. How are these man missing this.. ? Edit. Poundz knows.. I typed too early..
@illnamethisaccountlater4762
@illnamethisaccountlater4762 Ай бұрын
The police officer has shown he doesn't have the capability to be an armed. He is expected to maintain his composure in intense high pressure moments. He didn't do that he lost control and needs to lose job, at bare minimum he shouldn't be allowed to a fire arms officer.
@HaleyChain-vw8rr
@HaleyChain-vw8rr Ай бұрын
Kaba's past caught up with him , a face off with armed police. Don't defend criminals.
@84Victorious
@84Victorious Ай бұрын
Get down to Uppity for the real discussion on this.
@KushSmokinJack
@KushSmokinJack Ай бұрын
Bars bars ..... It's a sorry state of affairs on this planet..none of it necessary..
@SylVest-b8e
@SylVest-b8e Ай бұрын
If chris kaba never got shot and you watched the video everyone be saying hes lucky he never got shot...is actions cost him is life
@diamondwest35
@diamondwest35 Ай бұрын
All ah dat. Let's talk about it. Not a conversation for the faint hearted. The real one's know.
@dushaneweasley
@dushaneweasley Ай бұрын
Big up social commentary poet only seen him on fxkry and defending the arsenal
@FLYSTARTVLONDON
@FLYSTARTVLONDON Ай бұрын
Police been killing us yearly 😢
@Coco-uk9tv
@Coco-uk9tv Ай бұрын
You black men kill each other, and some black women too, aka Sasha Johnson, more than the police kill black men.
@trel7245
@trel7245 Ай бұрын
Bare Chinese whispers. Itch got searched his friend didn’t and snuck in the machine while itch was getting searched. The victim was minding his business, itch got up close and gleed him. After the shots rang off everyone scattered. The victim cut outside and itch ran him down
@Coco-uk9tv
@Coco-uk9tv Ай бұрын
Did the doorman deliberately not search the friend with the pew pew? Hhmm 😮 Edit perhaps an inside job......oh what a 🕸️.
@Mitch1three
@Mitch1three Ай бұрын
Feel for the women.. feel for the family full stop
@RandomVideosFirst
@RandomVideosFirst Ай бұрын
I get why there is uproar , but my thing is there were clearly prejudices before the policer arrived and were too aggressive , a non lethal approach could of been made especially because he was boxed in (glass could of been broken and possibly suspect tasered), but equally why was Chris Running (we know why)and why didnt he stop (as a black man youre making things worse for yourself ) , in the eyes of police its a sign of guilt if you are running even more so if you are in a 2 plus tonne car. Potentially using that as a weapon , in short both actions from the armed police and Chris were poor unfortunately it cost Chris his live for not complying sooner.
@captacao528
@captacao528 Ай бұрын
Why do we as black people want all this leniency in a predominantly white country ? It’s a split decision situation of a non compliant assailant, anpr on a car linked to guns means immediate armed response…Kaba caused this .
@teddyraccs7607
@teddyraccs7607 Ай бұрын
Also the fact that the police know that the car is associated with a wreckless gunman and there’s a wreckless driver ramming their car who fits the description. RIP to Chris but he drawed himself out to get shot.
@x-g1
@x-g1 Ай бұрын
Terry Venables, John Thompson, Dennis Nilson and Dale Creagan all committed horrendous crimes but they were all captured unharmed, interviewed and put behind bars for a long time. Chris Kaba was suspected of carrying but he didn't discharge nefing at the police (Unlike CB from Newham who was a black gm, fired at the police and is now serving a 23 yr sentance) Chris used his vehicle as a battering ram to escape, he shouldve been taken in alive and punished by the law if found guilty instead of being exterminated.
@fling4206
@fling4206 Ай бұрын
Officers didn’t know who Chris was. They stopped the vehicle because it was linked to a shooting so your point is invalid
@AndreSetal
@AndreSetal Ай бұрын
That boy caused his own problems
@Shortsportstv14
@Shortsportstv14 Ай бұрын
If you ever been hard stopped T-pack etc then you know the officers are always erratic so you need to be calm in them situations or you will more than likely get bun by them especially if your known for carrying certain tings
@Anthony_Jordan
@Anthony_Jordan Ай бұрын
I am really unsure how to retrain the mentality of these types of black people. Only people on the wrong side of the law have problems with police. Granted, there are some bad police but there are also bad people within families. These are rare and the result of individual behaviour, not a profession or a race. Anyone with a good education, a good income, not in council housing or in poorer areas, and making better choices at a young age don't have this experience. Kaba was trying to kill other young black men. Are we searching for racism so much that we can't take accountability for a lack of social discipline? If the police were all racist they would not protect black people at all in areas traumatised by gangs. They would police gang members or possible gang members when they enter affluent areas which typically have a low black population. Come on, this is really sad to hear this fear of police. Perhaps a change in behaviour, abd stop listening to U.S rap music glorifying gang culture. This links to poor family structure and a breakdown in the nuclear family, inadequate parental support and education, and poor life outcomes. Survival mode is a defeated state of mind. It's like no one expects to do better than what they think society expects, and they get lazy and blame failure for not trying on racism. The mentality is what has institutionalised people like Chris Kaba, not the police. Quick honesty box: If Chris Kaba had the freedom pass to kill 10 people without any criminal conviction, how many of those 10 people would not be black? If you're honest, you know there is a problem and it isn't the police!
@NiallOrielly
@NiallOrielly Ай бұрын
You either lived a charmed life or you're not black or aware of real life "only people on the wrong side of the law have problems with police"?? Tell that to the black British athletes that were pulled put of their car for no reason and had their baby taken out of their arms for no reason, or the black politician that talks of being stopped by armed police and to this day doesn't know the reason why. The police investigated themselves and concluded that racism is a massive issue within it. and had this proven in court. Yes Poet and Dougs takes are wrong but yours is way off the mark too. Way off
@Anthony_Jordan
@Anthony_Jordan Ай бұрын
@NiallOrielly I am black, but I have never lived in inner cities because I chose to only surround myself with university educated people. As a result, I live in Sussex and own multiple businesses, and I have never ever had a problem with police. I don't understand why just because we are black, the aspiration is hood life. I see all of these small sets and 13 year old making drill music inciting violence and bragging about committing crime or stabbing someone. These young boys are getting stabbed in London every day. I do believe there are socio-economic factors and systemic issues, but anyone choosing to cause terror and harm regardless of race is nothing more than a folk devil. I've heard nothing but victimhood culture blaming race and politics. There aren't race relation issues in the UK, but because people hold onto the past, everyone who is poor is a victim of injustice. The police shot a terrorist on London Bridge, and they shot a terrorist in Streatham. The people were all a great to society. We don't know all of the details of every tactical deployment, but my hunch is that there was enough intelligence to suggest that a tactical unit was required to apprehend some criminals. If you see police with guns, you surrender. What are police to do? Let a criminal escape because they didn't want to use force? That's how the UK becomes LA, and everyone will have a gun. Black people living in these conditions have a choice. The choice at the moment is to not unite against crime. Therefore, the cycle of poverty, criminality, state dependency, and poor life expectancy will not change. My final point is this, until people take accountability for their own actions (not this woke-socialist community nonsense), more young people will be affected by crime. The more young minds are exposed to dysfunctional behaviour, the sooner this becomes normalised, and they are desensitised to pain and suffering as this is what they know as normal. Fathers need to stay with their child's mother and create stability. The young people following someone like Chris Kaba followed his example mostly because they are not guided within the home, and most parenting is shouting or violence. Again, they become immune to pain and suffering, so how do they have regard for life if they aren't nurtured to value their own life? We need to get comfortable with being uncomfortable with reality; solve own social needs; and stop blaming others by default.
@NagiGseesyou2
@NagiGseesyou2 24 күн бұрын
The joke here is manz talks bout the 'jungle' but I live in the jungle and you dont need to be a f**king criminal to survive bruv. Work hard and work harder to make p's fam.
@nugrain3809
@nugrain3809 Ай бұрын
Sorry I have to say not separate yourself. Do something different, something better for yourself and your family and their future. We cant talk about Police killing us if we're killing ourselves. If the police stop you get out of your car first because you know what's going to happen. Do better stop the road man bullshit.
@marcusoconnor1993
@marcusoconnor1993 Ай бұрын
I agree with you for those who are determined not to listen or do better go away from everyone and go do it we didn't raise you to be like this so don't come near us and make us suffer.
@HarryPhillips-bl5cw
@HarryPhillips-bl5cw Ай бұрын
To me he was aiming this at ppl that have chosen to do all this gangster rubbish they covered don't do road man in loads of episodes this was specific
@LondonMoneyCashEnterprise
@LondonMoneyCashEnterprise Ай бұрын
Most black men aren’t roadmen
@Coco-uk9tv
@Coco-uk9tv Ай бұрын
​@@LondonMoneyCashEnterpriseMaybe not most, but a lot.
@mrstewart7335
@mrstewart7335 Ай бұрын
Barlllll Head Doug - straight hair transplant bredda!!
@michaelwhite2968
@michaelwhite2968 Ай бұрын
Chris Kaba was a literal crash dummy 🤷🏿‍♂️
@justsay5218
@justsay5218 Ай бұрын
Poet attempting to sound educated once again
@moorefyre9381
@moorefyre9381 Ай бұрын
I know you man are doing your ting or whatever, but what is the need of the bottles of moet on the table? It's not a sign of affluence or opulence. it just seems like a wrong image.
@DARRENPeters-xw8md
@DARRENPeters-xw8md Ай бұрын
Moet been sending them free bottles from long time
@moorefyre9381
@moorefyre9381 Ай бұрын
@@DARRENPeters-xw8md I wonder why?
@kf9926
@kf9926 Ай бұрын
@@moorefyre9381are you a child ? Alcohol is a poison they want our people intoxicated
@87longhairdontcare
@87longhairdontcare Ай бұрын
Poet forever looking like he doesn’t want to do podcasts. Lazy guy. Fix up
@michael43567
@michael43567 Ай бұрын
Was Chris Kaba a criminal? Yes Should he have been arrested? Yes Was the killing justified? No
@RomarioToretto
@RomarioToretto Ай бұрын
Yall are talking rubbish. Why didnt he just stop
@troydyall6624
@troydyall6624 Ай бұрын
My issue is that regardless of his crimes, would the police have shot him so fast if he wasnt a young black man.....thats the question
@H666..
@H666.. Ай бұрын
They just gangsters with uniforms don’t expect anything from them they itching
@SI-cd7xs
@SI-cd7xs Ай бұрын
they're really not though hence police shootings being incredibly rare in the uk. british armed police are very well trained and tend to be restrained, even when ppl get killed its almost always a documented gunman or big drug dealer.
@MrEon85
@MrEon85 Ай бұрын
Shit takes for me.
@perrymckenna8365
@perrymckenna8365 Ай бұрын
I hear it the mums and aunties dont know
@bhuda_finger1004
@bhuda_finger1004 Ай бұрын
A so it guh
@Burst2317
@Burst2317 Ай бұрын
Regardless of how you act & behave you should be policed fairly . They are trained to remain calm & professional in those situations. Stop giving the police excuses They need to do better as do we.
@SoulSupplier.
@SoulSupplier. Ай бұрын
You started by saying someone moved to him. He snuck up behind someone to shoot them, probably to kill them. This is the life he chose.
@ogz8991
@ogz8991 Ай бұрын
Respect to Pound£!! 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿✊🏿
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