I'm Switching to KDE Plasma because ...

[@arvindhn036]

Good content as always ! As a long time KDE user I've some tips to share: 1. Konsave is a great utility to backup/restore your existing KDE configuration. 2. Plasma customization Saver by Paju is an applet that will allow you to save and switch between different layouts.

[@Little-bird-told-me]

I was just wondering what is the equivalent of dconf in kde and you share this comment. Thanks

[@Wurstbrot03]

Gnome does a lot of things right, but the thing is... I can emulate everything I like from Gnome in Plasma without implementing the stuff I don't like in 5 minutes. And I don't need a couple of third party extensions for it, that could break after another update. Edit: And I need a functioning system tray.

[@CotyTernes]

This 1000x

[@JoshuaT902]

Plus, the amazing feature activities.

[@PDD555]

This, I'm surprised how much extensions you have to install in gnome to change very simple things

[@vari4bled]

Well, to have a normal dock you'll need latte-dock, making a plasma panel into a dock seems to be buggy. Latte-dock itself is very buggy. For me the lack of a reliable dock like dash to the dock is a dealbreaker. Also Plasma still lacks a proper RDP server tool on Wayland. KDRP is getting there but still miles away from the encoding support of gnome remote desktop. Gnome also has gnome gnome-session-inhibit that is great for scripting stuff, as in my experience the DE doesn't respect systemd-inhibts. Even the wayland experience is much smoother, there are still some quirks on Plasma Wayland. Like for instance there is fractional scaling, but it is very buggy: graphical glitches(that were more visible, now they hid it with masks, but still visible), apps going crazy after wake, full screen apps not going into full screen and the list goes on... And show some respect to the extensions. The Gnome community has many extensions that are continously updated, with compatibility info and some really great stuff. It was wise from the Gnome team to offload features to the community in such a way. On Plasma there aren't many extensions that are well maintained. Its kind of a mess, lots of deprecated stuff still there that WILL break your system(I did manage to break mine with some task switchers for example). Take Event Calendar as an example, one of the must used extension. Dev abandoned it, it broke with the new google auth, after months of begging there are like 3 forks trying to make it work, but good luck installing any of them...( I did make it work for myself) My point is that Gnome does a lot of things better, even for power users and it and its extensions deserve some love.

[@Little-bird-told-me]

@@JoshuaT902 Can someone tell me why does Activities exist ? You can have as many Virtual Desktop yet KDE team decided to add activity to the tab and a different set of short keys.

[@C0SSTY]

I'm so excited for Cosmic, I think it'll be a cross between Gnome and KDE, which is exactly what I'm looking for.,

[@David_Quinn_Photography]

I use KDE as my DE as well, I prefer it over Gnome and it just works with my workflow I do 1 task at a time I don't have 4 or 5 programs open at a time.

[@xorgX11]

KDE has one thing that even as Gnome user I prefer is the breeze cursor that small tiny detail that nobody cares but its so refreshing to see something like that. It's so different from your traditional arrow thingy I just love it.

[@HikingFeral]

Agreed, I love that and the default Linux Mint Cinnamon cursor.

[@pikachuchujelly7628]

KDE has been using that same cursor since Plasma 4, I think, and I really love it!

[@Terra101]

It's on all mint desktops but I agree. Especially nice with laptop trackpads. @@HikingFeral

[@batemanjo9]

@@pikachuchujelly7628 Very nice. I prefer the Oxygen themed cursors since KDE 4. openSUSE used Oxygen as the default theme in those days. Breeze is nice too. I tried it for a while. But currently on Breeze Dark theme with oxygen white cursors. I just can't get away from it 😁 I don't mod my UI too much. I just use the settings that it comes with. I like the stock dark breeze 🙂

[@RayPerigo]

To each their own. I've bounced back and forth between DEs/WMs for like 20 years now. Currently rocking Plasma 5 for similar reasons you've pointed out - it just offers the customization I want while still being a full DE. I don't go ham on it, just a few little tweaks here and there (hell, I'm using the default Breeze theme), but it's more than Gnome allow for and I don't have to play the "will my extensions work after this update" game. And if I wanted to make some crazy custom desktop workflow, I absolutely have that ability here. Also the dev team are a treat. I pushed a bug report a couple years ago and it was replicated, fixed, pushed to master, and out in the next point release within a few weeks. Not that everyone's had that same experience, but it was refreshing compared to some projects I've lodged issues with.

[@n.m4497]

Plasma 6 is going to be insane.

[@folksurvival]

Why?

[@n.m4497]

@@folksurvival huge update with around 10 months work of new features and polishing UX.

[@gamingdiary1804]

@@n.m4497 It's the best, ofc when updating there where some issues where plasma 5 used pulseaudio and plasma 6 now uses pipewire which needed another package to fix it but overall clearing the .cache folder and rebooting afterwards I gotta say plasma 6 is pretty fantastic! it's way too good to be true like I had a simple time replicating the macintosh look with the new "Float" taskbar feature. My only issue with it is sometimes it can be unresponsive at first after the upgrade but that could be because of the .cache folder which needed clearing before upgrading.

[@no_name4796]

Can conferm! Kde 6 convinced me to finally try kde for the first time, and i love it!

[@cgme9535]

Vanilla Arch with KDE Plasma is the GOAT. That’s why I loved how Valve setup the Steam Deck

[@adim2674]

I'm running Plasma on my desktops/laptops and GNOME on my Surface Pro. They're designed differently for different use cases and people that pick one or the other sometimes miss that point. Nice video!

[@folksurvival]

Yes GNOME is a tablet or touchscreen UI which is fine for its use-case but not really suitable for a proper desktop computer.

[@kelvinpina8815]

Change the shell

[@adim2674]

@@rangerkayla8824 Razer Blade 2018, only issues was the NVIDIA GPU but that worked fine when I set up envycontrol. Couldn't say for sure about your surface laptop but it should be fine.

[@iodreamify]

I just couldn't get used to not having a minimize button. That said, Gnome absolutely has the better overall ecosystem with libadwaita. Hope you have a good time with Plasma!

[@bvd_vlvd]

I like middle clicking to minimize, solves the issue without tweaking it

[@iodreamify]

@@bvd_vlvd sounds like a good middle ground but it's not just that. I need the Windows model of having icons on the Taskbar because I never learned workspaces and I have 9 windows open even now. It just becomes a mess very quickly. Also don't know how to cope without a system tray lol.

[@ShimmerismYT]

you can turn that on in gnome tweaks

[@bvd_vlvd]

@@iodreamify oh yeah, gnome definitely wasn't for you to begin with 💀 Although there are extensions for all that but that's like saying you can download 3rd party apps to make windows look like osx

[@iodreamify]

@@bvd_vlvd yeah I haven't tried it but I think I'd always be fighting the machine. I think we all get the general vision of the Gnome developers. I just wish Plasma got a little more coherent, had fewer bugs and maybe a little more focused.

[@astralfields1696]

Fresh one month Linux user here. Took a look at what Linux has to offer, KDE+Plasma was the clear winner, by far. On aesthetics and customization alone. That thing is the most beautiful IT device GUI I have ever had.. period. Went with Kubuntu btw.. pretty happy with the choice. I always liked the idea of Linux but hated the GUI (or lack of GUI in the early 00s).. Now it has the best GUI in the whole of IT (my opinion).

[@marinlos]

Thanks for the video. I think KDE Plasma and Gnome are both great options and what you choose it will come out to be a personal preference. In my case I've tried Plasma several times but haven't been able to like it and I always come back to Gnome, honestly I'm very happy with my workflow on Gnome but try Plasma time to time because many people speaks highly of it, but I never seem to like it or gives me some annoying problems that makes me go back, but for other people it just fits perfectly so in conclusion just use whatever you are happy with

[@QDSGames]

Absolutely. But for me it's the other way around. I like GNOME but there are some issues that make me switch to KDE. I have both installed on my workstation and can easily switch to the DE I'm in the mood for.

[@marinlos]

@@QDSGames that's how things work in this world of us. Thankfully we have a choice 👍🏼 have a great day

[@agentsmithone]

Been a Gnome DE user for years. Coming from MacOS it's been perfect. I'm very tempted by the promise of deep customization and improved stability. Further convenienced by Steam Deck and Nobara and Endeavour landing on it as a default.

[@robonator2945]

One thing to note is that some distros seem to play a big part in this. My laptop runs EndeavourOS, my desktop runs Garuda, they both run Wayland KDE, but my laptop craps out WAAAAY more. Still not a lot, and it never hard-crashes or anything, but I just started using it again after being desktop only for a while and it was a pretty easy difference to spot.

[@tomat05]

Specific hardware probably also plays a role, because I run EndeavourOS on a 2-year-old PC and a 13-year-old laptop and I've never really had a problem with either

[@SphereS7]

The software between the two distros is literally the same. It's just that DE are very hardware dependent. Wayland just does not like some hardware, really.

[@robonator2945]

​@@SphereS7yeah it's nowhere near that simple. Plenty of distros make tons of minor compatibility tweaks and modifications that result in different experiences. No matter how much arch chads may tell you "it's all the same" it's really not. It may be the same binaries, yes, but the configs have been tweaked and tweaked and tweaked. For most distros this generally means they're just ultra stable, but if you are on something like an arch derivative or using a particularly touchy hardware configuration the difference can rear it's head.

[@POINTS2]

Welcome to KDE! I've been using KDE ever since Canonical stopped supporting Unity around 2018. Now the question is which distro for KDE? I've used Arch, KDE Neon, and Debian and they all have their differences. One feature of KDE that I really like is offline updates. I don't have to worry about instability or restarting the browser. I can simply reboot or just turn off my computer and have the updates install next boot. You can even cancel if you are in a rush! And since it's Linux, it's a fast update, unlike other OSes.

[@zapapala]

If you haven't checked it out yet, I strongly recommend OpenSUSE Tumbleweed for KDE. They roll out the latest Plasma at the same time as the KDE team and it comes with some very cool defaults (BTRFS and snapshots already setup, Firewall GUI through YasT...)

[@gresh1134]

While I personally prefer Gnome's stability and "sensible defaults", I'm very glad Plasma exists for those who want that greater level of customization

[@HikingFeral]

I love Gnome on Ubuntu based distros and Fedora but I find it behaves a bit funny when using an Arch based system.

[@hopelessdecoy]

Is this legal? Don't KDE and gnome users have to hate the other de?

[@esra_erimez]

By the way, I use KDE

[@no_name4796]

Kde 6 got kde to such a good state, i actually switched from gnome. I still run gnome on my old computer, as kde has actual performance issues on old hardware

[@quciak_cie_zje]

Btw i use KDE ona Arch (btw)

[@Alt.N]

​@@quciak_cie_zje I think you might have forgot to add "BTW"

[@quciak_cie_zje]

@@Alt.N right, my bad 😕

[@RS-gn1fk]

I'm thinking about switching to KDE for the same reasons. I really do like the the workflow of GNOME., the look and feel, the (to my opinion) good integration of Evolution and Online accounts. I gave KDE a try several tries in the past, but I was not really happy with the workflow and stability. On my system GNOME was more reliable. I'm following the way KDE goes and it seems promissioning. I think I'll wait until KDE 6 to give another try.

[@Mastarfiin]

Great video as always! I LOVE both KDE and GNOME. I use GNOME basically because, at this point in my life (my age) I just enjoy it's simplicity and workflow. But both desktops are fantastic, as you pointed out, for very different reasons. I hope you have a blast with the KDE DE, it is undeniably a BEAST at what it does.

[@GarrettValdivia]

I also set about re-creating the GNOME environment/workflow in KDE Plasma and I *love* it. My only complaint is that I can't get my display hot-corner to work on my main monitor (KDE seems to only recognize the corner on the farthest monitor). I recently switched to KDE (Fedora) from GNOME (Pop!_OS) because I was curious about V-sync inconsistencies and stutters I saw in games. But now that I can control literally every single aspect of my desktop experience... I can't imagine giving it back up.

[@camilotorresf1]

I used gnome for more than a year, mostly vanilla. A couple of days after discovering some of the Gnome extensions that actually make it better for my use, I switched back to KDE, and is has everything I wanted out of the box. No need for the extensions. I configured a few bits (double click to open files), and was ready to go, fully productive. Deep inside me, I like KDE more. But Gnome is awsome, specially with Gnome 40+, it was really pleasant to work on it for that year+.

[@alwaysadventurous7905]

Gnome only works when it wants too. Which is very rare in my case lol.

[@TatharNuar]

1:57 These are the exact "features" of GNOME that make me not want to push my non-techy dad (who only ever used Windows) into using it. He would get so frustrated with the GNOME way of doing things, and once he found out he couldn't "change them back" he'd stop using it altogether.

[@bvd_vlvd]

6:37 UGH THAT THING I have to Alt+Enter to exit the full screen mode, move my mouse to the top left corner, do it again because I opened activities and Alt+Enter again every time I open a full screen game after restarting. Still, I'm too lazy to try Plasma lol

[@MichaelNROH]

I'm not even sure who's fault that is. Yeah, Gnome messed it up, but CS:GO itself has issues like crashing when opening the new Overlay. Could be a mixture of both

[@bvd_vlvd]

@@MichaelNROH it is mutter's fault, I have that issue in 0 A.D. so it isn't game-specific

[@JoshuaT902]

I love kde activity. Its so much better than anything gnome has. Activity allows you to have a set of virtual desktops to be separate with different taskbar if you want. Swap between personal and work quickly. I can have as many virtual desktop I want and instantly switch to work that has their own set of virtual desktops plus having discord being shown on all my activities. btw activities is not virtual desktop that everyone compares to when talking about gnome.

[@liesdamnlies3372]

“Refine it to your personal needs.” Exactly why I stick to Plasma. Once I get everything _just so,_ I get very frustrated when it changes on me. And heck, gnome doesn’t even let me get to that point since I can’t really customize it to be as I want. I have something akin to MacOS’ system tray and menu, but…ya know…not terrible…and I know it won’t change out from under me at someone else’s whims.

[@sethbessinger2025]

Great video! I personally really like the look of KDE. It makes me feel right at home, as a former Windows user.

[@sandrodellisanti1139]

Ciao, i'm using KDE since Version 2 in the early 2000's, in 2003 i've used Gnome 2 for a while, but after Gnome 2 it was horrible for me, so Gnome right now is no option for me personally..i'm still waiting for KDE Plasma 6 in early 2024.. many greetings from brunswick in germany and please stay safe 🙃

[@gmcenroe]

I run KDE Plasma on Arch linux on my PC and have liked it, just don't mix desktops on the same machine because that creates problems. I recently installed Parallels on my M2 Macbook pro and installed Windows 11 Pro and then Ubuntu which comes with Gnome. I did not like Gnome as much, it has problems with X11 so I installed KDE Plasma desktop and it now works great. I also had problems with disappearing cursor on Gnome. Brave does not run on this setup though.

[@blackmine57]

I just found out your channel, seems great! (Just not because I use KDE, other videos seems interesting too)

[@MichaelNROH]

I appreciate you being here 😊

[@bikespike4150]

I am switching to arch at the moment and am being confronted with having to choose a desktop environment, in order to use any GUI in the first place. This was a really nice comparison video. I think I will stick with GNOME for now because I am so familiar with it and don't really use Linux for anything besides development so gaming won't be an issue for me (I will game on windows xD).

[@thepathnotfound]

I want to game on Linux but being a flight sim fan there are third party software that won't work. Always thouthg MS should release a stripped down version of windows workstation for gamers. Just the basics, file manager and a control panel.

[@RenderingUser]

Every single kde application is overpowered beyond reason. Love it. Dolphin is an epic file manager. Kate is a whole ide.

[@lex_darlog_fun]

I came lloking for a KDE review... but I was almost hypnotized by how handsome Michael is. That took me by a complete surprize on a Linux video. Good job breaking neckbeard stereotypes, man!

[@atlantic_love]

He is a cutie :D

[@lex_darlog_fun]

@@atlantic_love he is indeed 😊

[@kremata]

KDE is just Superior to ANY DE at the moment. No question about it.

[@Virass]

Dude, I have a new ssd arriving tomorrow and I'm planning to change mine from 512gb to 2tb in my laptop, this is pushing me to choose 1. Transfer the system and stay use KDE plasma 2. Install new system and try gnome After this video, I decided to stay using KDE!

[@yrjo5050]

Gnome is always breaking on extensions.

[@wertywerrtyson5529]

Took me 20 years but finally checked out KDE. I don’t know why I was even against it. It’s good.

[@BWGPEI]

I hope you maintain that "like new things" attitude until you're past 70 like I am. That attitude sure served me well in my working career, and helps me not get stagnant after retiring.

[@Rac3r4Life]

I absolutely love KDE Plasma! I used to be a GNOME user for many years just because Plasma was so buggy, but with the latest release they have all been worked out as far as I can tell. I've been using it as my daily DE since 5.27 was released.

[@sadmansakibkhan8667]

Still using it?

[@Rac3r4Life]

@@sadmansakibkhan8667 yep

[@zoey4284]

Xfce is personally my favorite, I prefer the look of gtk apps over qt but xfce is more customizable than gnome. hope for wayland support soon though.

[@o03aTmE0o]

Been mainly a happy gnome user the last 2 years but damn I would lie to myself If I'm not a bit excited about KDE 6 and Cosmic DE

[@blbezcc]

Welcome to the club!

[@Totallynotmwa]

In desktop environments i mostly care about looks

[@Bunstonious]

One of the things that Gnome did that makes it absurd to use was the removal of the "system tray" paradigm which I think set it back significantly, in addition to the lack of a minimise it's just so unfamiliar. One of the things I think KDE has needed is a "RESET ALL" button for the UI and also some base elements to make it 'look' like other experiences (have a Windows XP look, Windows 10 look, Windows 11 look, OSX look and Gnome look) and maintain them as it would be super beneficial for people to be able to select the elements they're used to, and then base their own customisations based on those already established defaults. We can only dream I guess.

[@MichaelNROH]

From what I've heard, Gnome removed the System Tray icons because it wasn't stable for Gnome 40 and Gnome, being Gnome ... the process takes an immense amount of time

[@Bunstonious]

@@MichaelNROH yeah, it makes using some apps almost impossible lol

[@adamstrickfaden1691]

Resetting is pretty easy, just rename all the config files in the .config folder in your home directory, log out and then log back in

[@thepathnotfound]

ha! thx@@adamstrickfaden1691

[@ChimeraX0401]

Of all the DEs I used, plasma is the one I stick with. I really like it since it is straight forward and simple in design. What I dont like about Gnome is that it seems like the work flow more aims at touchscreen devices, same mistake that Microsoft did in windows 8. Gnome just dont fit to my work flow, I dont really like workspaces and I pretty much think it is useless when you have multiple monitors since you can just move a window to a different monitors anyway simulating a workspace. I when I have to recommend someone a DE to a person that came from windows, I always recommend plasma since it's UI and feel is kinda simalar to windows so it is easy to get used to it....

[@thepathnotfound]

Steam chose KDE for the steam deck, gnome is great but it seems like a kiosk operating system that you want locked down. I would use gnome for a new user like my grandma.

[@theplaymakerno1]

Also, KDE Plasma is not good for multi-monitor setups. I am not sure which DE is best for that. I am going to try XFCE, as that has a scaling feature.

[@bellissimo4520]

I used to be a KDE only user - about 10 years ago. Then I got pissed off with every new release having tons of bugs and glitches, the desktop generally often being unstable when doing things like large file transfers etc... and switched to Gnome systems ever since. But I've always missed the versatility and cool look of KDE. Seems like it may finally be time to go back.

[@denisvozian4791]

I'm tinkling to make the move to plasma as well.. just out of curiosity, did you still stick to Fedora?

[@MichaelNROH]

Nope, I moved to Debian like I said in a previous video.

[@Daniel-wn5ye]

I would move to Debian 12 if I were you!

[@GWFO]

Not gonna lie I was so tempted to go back to Garuda for kde , I miss the customization that Kde has 😭 I've always hated the way gnome looks but now I tolerate it,because the work flow of gnome is kind of nice tbh especially the gestures, but yeah Kde will always be my favorite, waiting for blend os kde ver to get updated so I can use it natively, atm I'm using Nobara but testing blend os

[@needsLITHIUM]

Fellow KDE user. I set up things to mimic Windows 10, but with the taskbar and menu at the top, a Mac dock at the bottom, and the GNOME style task switcher... I'm weird and like to make heterogenous experiences constructed from the best balance of comfort from what I'm used to, and efficiency from the newest of the new innovations. I love to deconstruct and recombine, and that's what draws me to KDE. I used to be a Cinnamon guy, and after that I loved Ubuntu's Unity interface. Speaking of, some distros have preset configs for plasma that make it closly mimic Unity. Otherwise, I'm a fan of the way MX Linux and Manjaro configures their XFCE experiences, but not so much the breakage of Manjaro, in particular.

[@007Knightjp]

I've always preferred KDE over Gnome. If not KDE, I would use something like XFCE or LXQT.

[@phant0]

The main reason why I prefer KDE Plasma is because it handles multiple displays better. Each monitor can have its own independent task bar, which is a huge benefit for me. I only wished they added invisible cursor boundaries at the corners of the screens though.

[@Blueeeeeee]

I feel like Linux Mint's Cinnamon DE strikes an extraordinary balance between GNOME's simplicity and KDE's customization, and it's very stable as well !

[@AroPix]

No Wayland support, so not a viable option :)

[@folksurvival]

And MATE and XFCE are similar but more lightweight.

[@folksurvival]

​@@AroPixWayland support isn't a necessity.

[@AroPix]

@@folksurvival Not if you want the best gaming experience on AMD ;)

[@Blueeeeeee]

@@folksurvival I agree with MATE/XFCE being nice alternatives to Cinnamon, tho I have to say I've gotten really used to the niceties and polish of Cinnamon (eg. somewhat nice design, animations, touchpad gestures, online accounts) vs MATE (very lacking IMO) and XFCE (old school menus and somewhat dated UX even with custom theming) They're nice as lightweight alternatives tho, for sure

[@Little-bird-told-me]

My issues with KDE : Slow startup apps, customisation can break things like the bottom panel, Why do they need virtual desktop (workspaces) and activity desktop at the same time? In tiling mode the windows disappear either behind the bottom panel or the or close button disappears front the frame. No good tiling options

[@Wincohax]

I'm gonna keep using gnome until the KDE team releases Plasma 6 as I'm hoping to get full-screen tethering on Wayland and overall better multi-monitor support (Something that already has? I'm not really sure). Plasma 6 is gonna be big, mark my words.

[@blueeyedbaer]

I like visual look and ability to customize Plasma. But it's just too overwhelming with all those customization options. It's easy too get lost and mess up the layout if you're not careful. The other thing that I dislike about KDE that it comes with lots of bloatware. Standard installation comes with 10+ apps and tools that I never use and even don't know what they do. They really should be optional installs.

[@nanopone]

finally, someone that doesnt treat the gnome vs plasma debate as binary :p

[@divanshu5039]

I'm ok with Gnome because I have OCD. This many options will just trigger my OCD and then I will check all the tickboxes in a pattern 10 times in a row even though I haven't changed anything. LOL

[@gamerhobbit]

I can't imagine the amount of options in KDE scaring anyone coming from Windows. Windows users are literally coming from "dual options", classical Control Panel and the new Settings menu are still a thing since Windows 8. I sincerely believe, the lack of options on GNOME is more dangerous for windows-ditchers. Because 99% of those newcomers miss and ask for a Windows feature at some point during the migration period. When they are told "it is impossible" or "you need to install some additional things for that", they would be much more discouraged than hearing "it's somewhere in this crowded options menu". Because many people prefer knowing that "it is there somewhere" than "oh, you have to do some additional steps".

[@ThomasMullaly]

I can't stand the clock in the middle in gnome, I switched to KDE this past year and I've been very happy with it.

[@MmntechCa]

For gaming, I guess this is the reason why Valve uses it for SteamOS. .

[@aquaponieee]

both this and also because it is more familiar for windows users and is more compatible with the steam deck's form factor

[@MichaelNROH]

I don't think that the form factor was a deciding factor, since Gnome works way better on touch devices. Even on smaller ones like the Steam Deck. Their reasoning was most likely just the default "Windows look" since it is recognizable

[@anon_y_mousse]

I liked GNOME, like 20-ish years ago. I thought it was pretty cool, even if I liked KDE more. Over time KDE just got better, and never lost any functionality I use, while GNOME got worse.

[@OliverAllpress]

Cool desktop wallpaper is that part of a theme or from somewhere else?

[@EdvardssonTech]

Great video! I use Plasma myself and absolutely love it. It would be nice if you showed how you customize your DE.

[@MichaelNROH]

Everything at the right time

[@ExfeliusLy]

​@@MichaelNROH what is the correct Linux for kde plasma?

[@VicharB]

GNOME is very simple and good, while KDE is versatile, customizable and rich. I am definitely looking forward to Plasma 6 with QT6 and much better Wayland implementation across the board.

[@mistermistero652]

Im sooo stoked for plasma 6

[@emanueldumea8217]

I love both KDE Plasma and Gnome. I am glad that you have this choice in Linux.

[@VenRoot]

Actually, I installed KDE Plasma on Pop yesterday, because Gnome was acting up, like not using hardware acceleration. Every movement was slow and did up to 400% CPU Usage. After getting KDE Plasma to work, it only updated internal UI like the settings or the taskbar, when I moved my mouse. So if I type anything, it's not visible till my mouse is moved

[@kevingood2565]

I can't wait the video about "I'm Switching back to Gnome because..."

[@kurt_hansen]

Thats why i use Cinnamon... Gnome Basis but much more possibilities out of the box for customizing the desktop without third party extensions, and not so overloaded as kde plasma. Kde and gnome, both are great, but Cinnamon rocks them all.... 😊

[@mrkrenek93]

3:03 - exactly, that was first thing that made me mad. How to get it to default.

[@SoulExpension]

I use KDE and XFCE because I was surprised that KDE has a lower memory footprint than other desktops. I didn't believe it because it has a lot of features. You think Cinnamon or Maté, no, they are heavy. Tiling Managers.... how tired am I of using key commands, it gets old. KDE is a good experience and coded well. Imagine running a base desktop with 500-600MB versus 1000-1600MB just for desktop running. It gets ridiculous. I run Manjaro KDE for programming, and I switched LinuxMint from Cinnamon to XFCE. I don't want to waste 500MB, it adds up.

[@mmxc4884]

KDE plasma is my favourite desktop enviroment.

[@FengLengshun]

I... probably can't really separate from KWin rules anymore. The combination of features of KDE makes everything just right for me, and it always feels jank when I try to replicate it on other DEs. Heck, most of them don't even have Global Menu support. It's the small thingd that KDE supports that makes me frustrated when I try out other DEs because I expect it to be there, and that I can do it easily, but it doesn't. Like window rules, or Spectacles' built-in annotation, no window border when maximized... so many stuff that I have to tolerate, work around, or make do without.

[@dannygeilen9656]

I like them both but kde wins for me because of the window manager. I can have 4 windows on 1 screen instead of just 2. It is more a windows feel and more intuitive to use

[@MichaelNROH]

By default yes, I agree. I still wonder why Gnome doesn't do that yet

[@RogerValor]

Gnome superior in usability and design? Since when? Well, if you love button margins I guess. Maybe I just miss some of my features in Gnome, but I always found KDE much prettier and more consistent.

[@Zeioth]

Gnome has no way to tell the application what size it should render. That alone makes gnome useless on HIDPI. Upscaling is nice to have, but in the end you are upscaling. If you are gonna lose definition, what's the point of having a high resolution in the first place?

[@pauledo5026]

I started my Linux journey with gnome but the experience was l terrible, extensions breaks everytime you update. You can only use vanilla gnome without issues but with extensions it's a sorry sight. I Iprefer person KDE Plasma because I don't have those issues

[@thepathnotfound]

I like gnome on a laptop, but the extensions breaking? And why in the hell to you need to install a bunch of patches to make something useable?

[@Pandacier]

2:17 "linoox"

[@jgarbo3541]

What took you so long? I've been using Plasma years. Complex but the most flexible DE.

[@MichaelNROH]

I just like Gnome and never saw a need to change

[@letmedwight]

One think I really dont like and where I still dont have find any fix for it is, that the Keyboard on the start-screen is way to big and you have to write blind or atleast once false your password to get this anoying giant keyboard away in the login-screen of ubuntu with KDE plasma.

[@jeremyandrews3292]

I feel like the best version of GNOME was probably GNOME 2.x. I haven't really cared for the direction of GNOME since about GNOME 3. I kind of preferred KDE in general, but I was perfectly happy with GNOME on distros that used it up until about GNOME 3. So ironically, even though you say the main thing that's good about GNOME is its stability and reliability, for me it seems like the radical changes in design between GNOME 2 and 3 are the main thing that irritated a lot of GNOME users, some of whom still desperately want to keep GTK2 and forks of GNOME 2 alive, regardless of how impractical that is. For me, I just moved onto KDE and MATE, but I know a lot of people who are struggling along with older versions of GNOME because they don't like the changes, and their favorite applications don't properly support Qt, etc...

[@StefaNoneD]

Yeah, the last Plasma release is always stable. But wait until it gets obsolete and you have to switch to Plasma 6 and the unstability and crashes continue...

[@PicSta]

Hey Michael, nice video. Please create a video for KDE Plasma customization. I think of switching to Linux (forever) as I still use Windows along with Linux (Gnome). Thanks in advance and keep being so productive.

[@MichaelNROH]

Hi. Would love to but I'm not sure how to be honest. Going over all the settings is probably a 2h job while no work has been done yet 😅

[@PicSta]

@@MichaelNROH hmmm okay

[@AssociateMinisterReserveDeacon]

A. When I install Linux for family and friends. I install both The GNOME Desktop Environment and The KDE / Plasma Desktop Environment. IB. I've found that some KDE / Plasma applications don't work well under The GNOME Desktop Environment. C. For maximum software compatibility I install both Desktop Environments. D. Does anyone else install both The GNOME Desktop Environment and The KDE / Plasma Desktop Environment on the same Linux installation? If YES. Please leave a reply to this list of comments explaining why you install both Desktop Environments on the same Linux installation.

[@typingcat]

I will be switching to KDE once it supports Wayland well. I tried to be "familiar with" Gnome's philosophy, but I have found that it's not just different, but inefficient. In the end, I ended up using DashToPanel and ArcMenu to have a task bar and a start menu, which kind of makes Gnome like KDE or Windows. Also, Gnome's fractional scaling's granulity is 25%, whereas KDE's is 5%. On my laptop, things are too small at 100%, and too big at 125%. I want a value in-between, and that cannot be achieved with Gnome.

[@favor94]

I heard plasma 6 will drop x11 completely and only use wayland

[@NijiDash]

Using KDE right now on my X230 (mostly using GNOME on my other systems). While it's true that it's very customizable, I can't help but feel the lack of polish when choosing to do so (particularly in theming I feel). And things like changing the mouse cursor not updating in every application is indeed one of them. Most applications use server-side decoration, which makes it feel a little outdated to me too. I should note that I'm a very design-centered person though, and so I'm a little biased towards GNOME haha. Still happy to be using KDE for a change though, and the activities feature is really good.

[@anandmahamuni5442]

I like KDE and think it's better than Gnome/Cosmic(pop&os) but I can never make the switch from bspwm too cozy

[@fineman1064]

Ahh man You spelled it wrong Kde is not good at customization They are good at Kustomization

[@MichaelNROH]

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[@yogurtmilk3912]

Gnome feels a lot better in modern hardware and high refresh displays with the dynamic triple buffering MR, you can install it in fedora using the gnome-shell and mutter packages on the calcastor/gnome-patched copr repo. Maybe it fixs the weird feeling that you have when gaming. (Mostly because vsync latency is really not that bad on high refresh displays)

[@MichaelNROH]

VSYNC itself is often not the issue, however the pipeline how it works is. Freesync is essentially nothing else (and doesn't lock framerate), yet is a lot faster

[@kahuleary4327]

Really love your background wallpaper. Could you share a link to it by any chance?

[@MichaelNROH]

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[@mastropiero4]

@@MichaelNROH firewatch game?

[@splatink]

KDE's theme installer is still the buggiest thing ever sadly

[@MichaelNROH]

That's true in some way

[@kelvinpina8815]

I like gnome apps, the overall design but I hate the workflow for the pop desktop was what I needed,

[@VektrumSimulacrum]

I've said it before many times but Gnome's need for extensions to smooth out or change the most basic thing is ridiculous. Your gnome extensions video is a good example. I've set up another laptop with gnome as the DE to daily drive and the default out of the box gnome set up is so bare bones and actually not as smooth(or efficient as it could be). I have 13 extensions installed. Only 1 out of those 13 have anything to do with theming or eye candy of any kind (Blur my Shell). Even extensions like Coverflow Alt-Tab and Desktop Cube do more to fix or improve stock gnome functions for efficiency and functionality in general than they do as eye candy. IMO they could still stick to their philosophy and massively improve gnome if they made a lot of these extensions apart of the DE.

[@Whatreally123]

I have been a hobby linux user for over a decade now. I love trying out new distros but never use it for my work. And in all these years, after trying out other DEs , i always come back to KDE and its always either OpenSuse or Manjaro. I cant stand Kubuntu for some reason.

[@ArturTheFOE]

Great video but I almost burst out laughing when you said that in Linux stuff either works or it doesn't

[@raf.nogueira]

The only thing I hate from Plasma, since de Kde days, is the multimedia panel... What a mess to control audio input and output devices... They tried to make something about it, but still very messy for me, the UI is not good...

[@ChipEstrada]

I wanted to try something new, im not overly impressed with Linux Mint anymore because of its lack of compatibility with some hardware. But I was going to load KDE Plasma neon on my system and it doesn't look as nice. Linux Mint is stunning! Its beautiful looking I can set my monitor to 50% brightness and still use. But KDE Plasma looks dull and i have to keep the brightness at 90% and its still looks dull and low res. Any suggestions?

[@SakuraMorandi]

Try Manjaro with KDE it was hard for me to go back to windows 11

[@otockian]

Gnome is so damn basic it's barely an OS anymore. Maybe in like the 2000's it was, but now there's barely anything there. They don't even have a fucking system tray because they refuse...

[@spaceiswater6539]

When I used KDE in the past it would not let me login sometimes and it happen to my friend as well and we were using different OS distributions of KDE. I just like how simple and stable Gnome is sometimes less is better.

[@MichaelNROH]

I'm glad that they got rid of their old Login Screen. The old one had some bugs like switching the default keyboard layout.