I MADE A FORGED CARBON FIBER PART (mold and part DIY)

We're building a fully forged carbon fiber RSV4 RF race bike!!
This is just the first part of many. Now that the stator cover is done, we'll do the clutch cover next. Then on to the bodywork!!
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[@nickallain]

"I put extra hardener in it so that it's extra thick" - this logic is not sound. As a chemical reaction, you want the ideal ratio. Adding more hardener can actually make it less hard.

[@stevemccormick4938]

While I agree extra hardener doesn't make it thicker, Polyester resin can be catalyzed from 1.0 to 3,0 percent to adjust the cure time for temperature. Epoxy is not adjustable by ratio. The real question is why use carbon with polyester or carbon for the mold.

[@jacktheoburley]

hay Nick. spot on it wont make it thicker. what I think he is referring to is that it will cure faster, reducing the resin running. Steve only reason to use polyester would be to save money... carbon may be used if you are temperature curing the part. this is due to thermal expansion of the part and the mold.

[@FragBenitez]

So for small parts, its not possible to use carbon fibre with poliester resin?

[@bradleysr]

@@stevemccormick4938 carbon for the mold: free stuff. nobody paying this shit him self uses carbon fibre for the mould (of such a non critical part).

[@ultralinx200]

@@FragBenitez you can use polyester resin with carbon fiber. Its just personal preference i guess, depending on what you re making

[@SuperYellowsubmarin]

Awesome ! I work in the composites industry and people will over analyze why they can't do that, you just did in a couple days. Thanks for sharing !

[@drifterx007]

That was crazy how easy it was..just time consuming. Can't wait to start making my own parts too. Thanks for the share!

[@dewaynebeard5324]

Looks great, thank you for taking the time to show us the steps.

[@justinmurphy2227]

Why? WHY? wHy? WHy? whY??? WHYYYY??? wHy? (etc...etc...e-fucking-tc!) No matter how many of you ask it and no matter how many different ways you do, how about simply because..... "This effing cool ass KZbinr (not any of you NoTuber's) wanted to and did!" What is wrong with all of these miserable people? I am sitting here at 4am because I can't sleep. Why? Because I am recovering from my 3rd spinal fusion and I'm in an extreme amount of pain but yet I can see the excitement and joy JBellz here is getting from doing something he is obviously enjoying and his energy alone made me forget about my pain! To everyone that took the time to type out all the hateful uninspiring shit, I'm so sorry it didn't ease all your pain(s). I'm guessing you all live a worse life that me (I also have not been able to work in 2.5 years....this hurts a LOT too BTW) because to sit down and methodically point out faults that I couldn't have found in 1000 years, is an OBVIOUS indicator that your pain scale must be an 11 out of the possible 10! I didn't care 2 flying fooks if it was called forged or molded.....and what is "moulded"? Are you so self absorbed you had to include "u" into our word "mold"? LOL! I believe this was this gentleman's first time at this as well. If so, holy hell, I can't wait to watch more because I have some parts that I would like to make some molds of. I love that you went for it and chose to use a more permanent part to cast from instead of the floppy, few uses and you're done, silicone molds I'm use to seeing. Plus, silicone isn't cheap. Ok, Ok, OKKKKK! I could go on finding all the positive things I got from this video. I'm glad I don't read the comments first because I would have never had thought this video would have been as great as it was!!!! Thanks sir!

[@bruces12]

THAT WAS AWESOME!! The mold making process was very straightforward and for most DIY guys would be possible. The fact that you took it all the way to the finished product was even better because no one had to guess what it would look like. Someone below commented "why not use fibergalss as the mold backing"...and I thought the same thing. Especially since fiberglass will harden the same as carbon fiber but be less expensive. I would ignore the "this not true forged carbon fiber" comments because all you're doing is going for the look. You're putting it on a motorcycle engine for crying out loud...not the interior or your Lamborghini to drive your super model girl friend around like some of the other commenters are surely doing (yeah, sure)!!

[@GL0BETREKKER]

Awesome work! Really cool of you to show the moulding process!

[@MyFirstYoutubeHandle]

Beautiful looking part. Awesome work, keep learning!

[@tonyceja2466]

Subscribed! That looks so sick man! look forward to seeing the other parts

[@pistolpete5805]

Incredible patience and craftsmanship....... awesome stuff

[@LintRoller86]

best video on youtube on this topic. thanks. i feel confident remaking some parts now

[@hermierocks2]

That's very creative of you! 👍👍

[@aight5420]

Yoo that looks sick!

[@hotactioncustoms7008]

awesome video! yeah I was nervous thinking to my self there aint no way hes gonna get that part out with the way you had the first flange lol. Looks awesome dude good job making mold is so easy its fun!

[@user-eu1om4mk7z]

I skinned the interior dash pieces for my sti and it was such a pain. I am differently going to be trying this. Great video. Liked, saved and subscribed.

[@4gedcarbon537]

J D hey JD....I have Wrx and am tired of trying to find forged carbon pieces for it...thinking of making some. Really want the look, want real carbon and more than a vinyl wrap.

[@comfort_in_discomfort]

Came out great. I think I'll find use for this on lots of projects. I like seeing these from start to finish, along with the mistakes. Sub'd.

[@jishimoari]

I like this look, this is briliant!

[@ajhartmanaero]

Glad you caught your flange setup mistake! I was watching along and just thinking the mold would lock on with the negative draft angle.

[@bewernia]

Why make the mold from carbon fiber? Wouldn't fiberglass be cheaper?

[@8145dwerdna]

It would, but it wouldn't be as strong or last as long.

[@JTECH7766]

Glass moulds last fine if you do them right. Using carbon fibre is just a waste.

[@SurfTheStreets01]

@@8145dwerdna hmmm not true

[@8145dwerdna]

Then explain and give reason as to why. It's a known fact carbon is much stronger of a material than fiberglass.

[@Mtrhd0024]

I'm guessing the reason he made this mold from carbon fiber is he didn't have fiberglass. And since this is a very small mold, it doesn't really use much carbon. Carbon prices have come waaayyy down compared to a few years ago. BUT, there is actually a reason that many molds are made from carbon fiber. When you're creating large parts which will be cured in an autoclave, you must make the molds from carbon. The rate of thermal expansion is different for carbon fiber and fiberglass, so if you make your mold from fiberglass and then lay it up in carbon fiber, you may have problems with the parts. But this probably would not have been a problem with this small part. There is no appreciable difference in the strength or durability of fiberglass when used in a mold. Carbon fiber is stronger for a given weight (which is what makes it so popular for lightweight applications) but fiberglass can be made just as strong. It will simply weigh more, but this is not a concern when making a mold.

[@josuenavarrosoriano6104]

Awesome job man! 👏👏

[@newfork_city5216]

you're a real one for posting this video imma start adding some parts on my bike too

[@UisamG]

Sick work! Congratulations! Regards from Argentina.

[@johnsurteess8406]

Dude Nice job , Well done

[@gamercoolapple1]

I appreciate this thank you dont let the comments get to you keep it up as you said for looks i was wondering how to achieve this look myself

[@franknvett]

Awesome job Awesome video

[@Kirkorr123]

Nice job making that part.

[@battleaxebob45]

this is to forged carbon fiber, what a vinyl wrap is to regular carbon fiber.

[@11green11]

It's beautiful 😭 excellent/quality work 👍😎

[@clouduos]

Great job man 👍👏 love it

[@sanderlunde5431]

Awesome video, ill defenitely use this on my bike🤘🤘

[@hc8714]

Super like the "not how you do it part", without you showing I am going to do the same way!

[@jb3704]

I was really sceptical when the video started, but i must say it looks pretty good! I like the visual texture of the graphics. It doesn't look like the normal criss-cross look of carbon fiber. Great job! 👏👏

[@Tierone1337]

This is forged carbon not the regular carbon fiber weave everyone is use to

[@gonzalogimenez5283]

👌excelent!!

[@OhCrapItsJimmy]

Nice! I like your style.

[@OneMoreProd]

Well done mate

[@CarAndMechanical]

Interesting stuff and very cool - interested to know how they hold up to high temps.

[@callumbigc]

not sure why this is on my recommened page. but it was awesome and got you a sub!

[@petarz9029]

I don't understand why all the hate in the comments, he gave us a good breakdown of the process, even leaving in the part where he messed up the flange so that someone watching could avoid that issue... thanks for the video dude.

[@arthurmorales3670]

Where'd you get the chopped fiber? Just cut it yourself? This part is a cover, no need to be super strong, its just for looks. I dont see why people are complaining it's not truly forged lol he said it in the video. Its just for looks and it looks perfect

[@wtfftw24]

You can chop it with a mini robot for kitchen

[@OkammakO]

Just search google for "chopped carbon tow". Lots of composites supply houses will sell you the stuff, pre-chopped to accurate lengths.

[@Koru-Health]

www.venomcarbon.com

[@Rich77UK]

I am not sure i like the look of the chopped CF but kudos for not just covering it on a single layer and resin or vinyl! Nice mould making used as well.

[@henryhuang5845]

great job

[@UnitedDriver]

hello, i'm french sorry for my english but where do you found the "forged carbon" in your tube ? thank's

[@socialghost4400]

Wow okay, the guy made a helpful how-to video with the best intentions and all the comments are all about “this is a mold and not forging” ...really guys!? ...this look is called “forged carbon fiber” it has nothing to do with forging the parts, that’s just what the look is called! OP: I think you do a great job at explaining the process in a way that’s easy to follow and understand. So thank you for the upload and for providing links to the products used in your video. 👍

[@bvcxzgt5451]

He did a decent job in some aspects. However, supporting the wankers trying to pass off "forged carbon" as something other than the cheapest and lousiest way to use carbon is not something we should be expected to tolerate. Lambo and others need to be called out for these lies.

[@maserukururu4837]

@@bvcxzgt5451 have you send them a letter yet?

[@erichuff3135]

I like the look. keep it up

[@troyvoorhees]

Impressive!

[@d3tach3d]

how are you going to get the accuracy for a good mating surface with the case cover?

[@DrVinylBcn]

Great job, like, and subscribed

[@FragBenitez]

Thats fucking sick man, congrats on the build and thanks for the video and insights

[@pmm4177]

I think ive just had a crisis in my pants 😬 That looks awesome bro! Sick bike too, love it

[@tosyawilldoit]

that is awesome! Thank you! I should try doing something carbon for my channel,

[@clintshultz7296]

thats so sick

[@calipso7129]

Woww!!! cabon fiber mold.

[@pigradar8481]

The amount of bugs I saw in the first minute of this video gave me anxiety.

[@Dimisrr]

Nice vid

[@Larryfromthe]

Nice!

[@remi-lehoux]

nice job

[@ianholmen888]

“Forged” lol

[@NewtonInDaHouseYo]

To everybody commenting that this is not „real“ forged carbon fibre: You do realize that „forged carbon fibre“ is just a fancy marketing name for „cheap quasi-isotropic randomly oriented short carbon fibre reinforced plastic“, right? Its all about the looks, guys and girls ... nothing more. The author did a pretty good job replicating that look in my opinion. Oh, and carbon fibre moulds are sometimes used instead of glass fibre moulds because the thermal expansion coefficient is the same for the mould and the part (important if curing occurs at high temperature). Dr.-Ing. F. out.

[@traceycopeland6922]

@@NewtonInDaHouseYo incorrect...Forged means it is pressed into mold. Lamborghini chasses are forged carbon and are heat pressed into molds.

[@NewtonInDaHouseYo]

It‘s nothing more than a sheet moulding compound which has been around for ages. „Forged“ suggests some superior mechanical properties which it clearly has not. „Forged carbon“ is a manufacturing process that is well suited for medium volume production with short cycle times. And it’s comparably cheap. However, compared to traditional prepreg and RTM (resin transfer moulding) carbon composites it‘s mechanical properties are way lower. As I said, it’s mostly about the looks ...

[@mattmoilanen3813]

@@NewtonInDaHouseYo You are correct that this is NOT a forging in any way. But you are incorrect that there is such a thing as forged carbon fiber. A forging is created when a material is compressed enough to rearrange its molecular structure. That doesn't happen unless carbon becomes a diamond under extreme pressure heat and time. This dork wanted a fancy name for a simple carbon fiber layup for clickbait. And I was so dumb that I gave him a view just to tell him he's full of s**t. Ya I'm dumb.

[@deadprivacy]

@@NewtonInDaHouseYo TRUE "FORGED " CARBON IS AUTOCLAVE PRESSURED, AND OFTEN USES NON EPOXY RESINS SUCH AS PEEK. ITS WAY WAY STRONGER THAN RESIN LAYUP UNLIKE HOW YOU SUGGEST. ITS USED FOR F1 SUSPENSION ARMS AND HANS DEVICES.

[@hoyabun]

look very nice great job

[@johno9507]

What's the weight difference between the original part and the carbon part?

[@AnorexicPandas]

this was an awesome video. very cool. might try it out myself to get the forged carbon look on some parts. I get that forged carbon is the aesthetic and that this doesn't come from a billion dollar factory process unlike most of this comment section

[@samdoesthefunstuff7122]

F the haters man, you did good work here! don't quit keep going!

[@StartGamingES]

master man

[@mickcoomer9714]

Very nice. Especially the name.

[@johndelano7925]

Although I have never spray gel coat I never had luck brushing it on either. In due time I will get the sprayer and try that method

[@Cbegnaud]

I work on carbon fiber and fiberglass daily for the airforce. And as a hobby. My suggestion (2 cents) would be after you lay up the part vacume bag it and it will eliminate most all voids. Maybe even do resin infusion for the least amount of resin. Great looking part though.

[@hwntwww]

Forging?

[@30feetup52]

My dad molded one for my yz out of 6 tubes of JB weld. That was 20 years ago and it’s still on my bike

[@FaiziGroops]

I think if he use infusion process the final product can be more rigid n nice look😍😍

[@lu-x-ey2195]

very cool👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

[@pmm4177]

Do those engine covers actually hold oil and fluid in or are they just added protection for the engine case?

[@austinroberts5255]

I this this video was great, really informing on each step the info was spot on I believe. You showed each product you used and all except the resin. Where did you get the resin?

[@yamaharaptor1896]

Hi , you applied two coats of tooling gel coat, did you apply them straight after one another or once the first one dried ??

[@HEKTIC458]

Sick

[@AndrewVanDay]

What product do I have to look for if I want to buy the carbon flakes used in this video?

[@Lewiseyers]

Make a few quid with that mould... love it..

[@moongoon66]

That part turned out great! To make it look even better I’d invest in a WichiTech composite repair system. You can put the part under vacuum and get cleaner parts.

[@EZ-D-FIANT]

Or u could build an autoclave for less then £200 if your smart enough! Do you work for whatever company you just mentioned, how much is their system, what size parts can it accommodate?

[@moongoon66]

I don’t work for that company. We just use their products. I’m not sure how much they cost tho lol

[@772777777777777]

Good frist attempt...I would recommend when making the part apply a thicker expoy coat let it almost be tacky... also I get a old blender and mix the carbon with expoxy in blender good then add harder after blending it..the roll this dough out into a sheet of wax paper ie similar to a DIY preg preg but uses chopped fiber .freeze it for 1-2 h this will give u a longer working time... then apply in mold several layers then vaccum bag part no need for carbon fiber back up

[@Puzzicanello]

But doing so you're not gonna see the full carbon sheet, are you?

[@gabedebaltz490]

blended carbon with resin is not prepreg. You guys are doing diy nonsense. chopped or "minced" strand matt being slathered with resin is not prepreg.

[@772777777777777]

@@gabedebaltz490yes prepreg required a special resin also a autoclave chamber ect. WE know that... we are discussing way to recreate the appearance and texture and look of forged carbon fiber which was developed jointly by Lamborghini and Callaway. If you ever watch the how they make parts they a blended woven carbon fiber mixture that is then roll out in a sheet then made into a pre peg sheet and then use die-cast mold...and press or vaccum formed into place and autoclave it.

[@gabedebaltz490]

@@772777777777777 Exactly the issue. Do not call it something it is not. The "forged" moniker is due to the process of extreme pressure both the press and the autoclave pushing and pulling pressure. This is casting. Calling something forged gives the impression that your "case cover" might survive a crash better than it will. I think it is a pretty part and he is learning a fun skill but this is how you ruin the reputation of certain things.

[@772777777777777]

Lamborghini and Calloway trademark a process " forged carbon fiber" The word forged is gimik....made up trademarked nonsense word for a process which is "basically " woven carbon fiber and other composite mixtures pressed in to mold and vaccum bag in a autoclave oven to cure. There is no forged or forging of parts

[@patrickbuttimer1]

When you were making this.. Was the chopped up pieces of carbon just the normal weave just chopped up into little pieces?

[@stevemann6082]

this isn't a forging process its a moulding process.

[@jacobfalk4827]

Forging is a manufacturing process involving the shaping of metal using localized compressive forces. The blows are delivered with a hammer or a die.

[@jobbzh3810]

forged look they mean i guess..

[@rionmotley2514]

@@jacobfalk4827 forged carbon is a thing... 2000psi in a press, couple hundred degrees... it's really hot isostatic pressing, but close enough for dialectic appropriation. THIS, however, is just a wet layup with chopped carbon. Which totally defeats the point of carbon. o.o

[@jacobfalk4827]

Eugene Motley Interesting! What form is the carbon in when it’s forged like that? I’m curious to see what those parts look like and what their applications are. I just pulled that definition from google to give people a textbook definition of what forging actually is.

[@rionmotley2514]

@@jacobfalk4827 it's called "forged carbon" as a trade name but it's basically a thermoset polymer (epoxy) like you get with prepreg, but it's chopped fiber. The pressing makes the fibers flow with the resin creating a grain structure and providing some alignment for carrying loads through the bulk material better. You wind up with a part about half the weight of aluminum, but equal strength, and slightly higher stiffness. Wewt.

[@ze_german2921]

very nice! so was vacuum bagging not needed?

[@wesley7910]

Great video. Exactly what i came for. Dont listen to the other comments

[@JohnJxxRAMBOxx]

Where do you get your resin and other supplies? What products do you use for this project? Thanks

[@goldensounds2074]

what do you use to clean the carbon after sanding ?

[@brittenv1000]

What's it like on the bike? Can we see it bolted up?

[@haydentakara4369]

It’s thanks to Lamborghini that people call it “forged” carbon fibre

[@bvcxzgt5451]

That's a nice name for something that is in no way a forging process. Sounds better than, "we are using the chepest carbon fiber molding process out there, and it's weak, but you'll buy it because it is carbon."

[@frankiewalnuts]

IT's just carbon fibre chop

[@XxxTheDRAGMASTERxxX]

lambo uses a press to make the forged carbon fibre so they use less epoxy and there for its lighter

[@bvcxzgt5451]

@@XxxTheDRAGMASTERxxX I understand that. The results would be better than this simple wet chop layup shown here, but still awful compared to proper carbon fiber work.

[@XxxTheDRAGMASTERxxX]

@@bvcxzgt5451 in this case yes, i prefer the optic of normal carbon fibre too but hey as long as it makes him happy i guess thats okay. I worked with prepeg and wet carbon in the past.

[@gabegarza6780]

You showed where to get the carbon fiber and resin kit, what website for the rest: gel coat, PVA film and paste? Thanks

[@ArtyomGalstyan]

What if you mix that with glass fiber next time? Or coloured kevlar fibers?

[@brianpreston8483]

Can you use a mold release and use liquid urethane and trim accordingly?

[@jonaruiz2414]

AWESOME

[@joshg4312]

Is there any specific reason you choose to make the mold with CF and not fiberglass?

[@abudhabi5111]

Do you need to use the carbon that’s not chopped or can you just use chopped

[@goshdornit1355]

the foam i used dissolved when it touched the gel coat, what kind of foam should i use? does anyone have a link?

[@JBellz]

Use a foam board, not styrofoam

[@robboramone8553]

Why don't you make your moulds out of fibreglass it will be more cost-effective and easier

[@gabegarza6780]

Can you suggest a website that has a starter kit (partal paste, partl film#10)? Thanks

[@matjeay7224]

for the part process..do you used gel coat for the first layer? or do you just used epoxy?

[@nickferraina9860]

How was your clearances inside? I’m curious if you had rubbing issues

[@myrbs13]

Being a metal work forged is very different. But im into carbon and make carbon fiber welding hoods. That could be a cool look on the hoods!

[@goldap0987]

nice job broi its very informative 👌👌👌💪💪💪💪💪💪💪 pinoy watching from DOHA QATAR

[@andriesvandenberge2888]

How much ( in weight) chopped carbon fiber die you use for this? Thanks!

[@dariozanardelli4806]

Excellent work, mate but i have a question: what about the screw casing? My compliments for your bike by a Ducatista!