I made a TIER LIST of THE GREATS in History

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Laith

Laith

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@aliddy2344
@aliddy2344 Жыл бұрын
Cryrus the Great should indeed have his own catagory, even Alexander was upset seeing Cryus' tomb vandalized becase he too looked up to Cyrus.
@goldenhate6649
@goldenhate6649 Жыл бұрын
And I agree with Laith on why he isn’t more well know . Archeology didn’t come into a definitive organization until after the fall of ‘persia’ to the muslim revolution. If there is one thing the middle eastern muslim religions are good at stifling, its any sort of national heritige
@timurthejerk9270
@timurthejerk9270 Жыл бұрын
@@goldenhate6649 we shouldn't tell him about the Samanids
@pprot1337
@pprot1337 Жыл бұрын
@@goldenhate6649 of course you somehow twist this into Islamophobia
@Chadius_Thundercock
@Chadius_Thundercock Жыл бұрын
@@pprot1337 of course someone gets salty at someone finally not jerking off muslims
@danzoom
@danzoom Жыл бұрын
​@@goldenhate6649 aparently, more than a 1000 years of muslim history in Iran can't be a part of national heritage
@HobbesTWC
@HobbesTWC Жыл бұрын
Even the Greeks saw Cyrus as basically a model monarch. Xenophon wrote an entire biography of the man.
@NothingSerious...2
@NothingSerious...2 Жыл бұрын
The same greeks that for the most part opposed monarchy? Some Greeks surely, but not all of them. Stop treating ancient greece as 1 organism, they were too diversed for that
@SpartanLeonidas1821
@SpartanLeonidas1821 11 ай бұрын
Majority of Greeks were against Monarchy! 😂 And so what if they wrote about him? The Greeks wrote about everything! 🤷🏻‍♂️ You don’t need to try to use our History to prop up your guy…👍🏻
@marcus1116
@marcus1116 Жыл бұрын
I'm not the first one to point this out but Bolesław "The Bold" is not really referred in Poland as "The Great", but we do have a Monarch we call as such - Casimir The Great. He was the last ruler of the Piast dynasty and we literraly spend like Two weeks of history lessons talking about his exploits. His father United polish Kingdom after 200 Years of poland being divided into small duchies and it was his job to put this Kingdom Together. During his reign he Built like 200+ castles replacing wooden structures that were used previously, Built the first polish University in Cracov and is mostly responsible for the way this City looks today, he entered an aliance with the Lithuanians to prevent Invasions from the teutons, he expanded the Kingdom into Galicia volhynia, creator a standard currency, mpdernized the country to match western powers and so on. His biggest error was not having a legitimate heir despite having multiple Children and so he Passed the polish crown to Lois the first of hungary ( his Cousin if I'm not mistaken)
@historyafficionado478
@historyafficionado478 Жыл бұрын
Louis was also The Great funnily enough.
@n3ct0d2
@n3ct0d2 Жыл бұрын
I completely agree with you, but it should be noted that Kazimierz inherited eastern Galicia, not conquered it
@bigorna4875
@bigorna4875 Жыл бұрын
This Casimir guy from poland conquered all the way to Spain? 😮 certified "the great" moment
@Lee_str
@Lee_str Жыл бұрын
Bolesław is called "The Great", but it's far less popular than "The Bold". In fact, he was started to be called "The Bold" during the reign of his son, Mieszko II. If I remember correctly, they started calling him "The Great" in the 12th or 13th century
@speedyx3493
@speedyx3493 Жыл бұрын
Bolesław might not really be called Great but being a Pole and having studied Polish-centered history in school and myself for a long ass time I think he is realistically far more deserving of the title than Kazimierz. So this unintentional mistake is a plus for me
@armandom.s.1844
@armandom.s.1844 Жыл бұрын
Historical fact: Alexander the Great was never called "the Great" by Greeks. To them he was Alexander, son of Phillip, or just Alexander. The epithet "the Great" was given to him by the first time in 200 BC aprox by the Romans, to compare him with Antiochus the Great (the only Great at that point and truly a Great "Great" for this tier list) so the Roman people could have a more or less accurate idea of who Alexander was, like a great Macedonian king of the East. Edit: Also I see Mithridates Eupator, who was never called the Great until he was dead and by the Romans again if I'm not wrong.
@EpicRenegade777
@EpicRenegade777 Жыл бұрын
he seemed to have alot of differnt titles, i think the english simply called him Alexander The Horseman
@sasi5841
@sasi5841 Жыл бұрын
Alexander son of Philip and the hellenes, minus sparta
@ne0nmancer
@ne0nmancer Жыл бұрын
I think it's even more gigachad to just be known by your name. No need for an epithet, you're just Alexander and everyone in the known world knows who you are.
@matztz_4560
@matztz_4560 Жыл бұрын
Alexander The Hamilton
@wankawanka3053
@wankawanka3053 Жыл бұрын
Alexander son of phillip is typical greek naming form
@ekseiht2760
@ekseiht2760 Жыл бұрын
You should post more about history i like these kinds of videos most or when you use facts in your vids
@spartavis8904
@spartavis8904 Жыл бұрын
No hate to Laith as I understand that this video is just a relaxed tier list where he can share his thoughts. But to all who share your opinion, there are much better sources out there to learn historical facts from, even in such relaxed form. It's better not to perpetuate misleading and frankly inaccurate informations.
@catthecat2623
@catthecat2623 Жыл бұрын
Toms history content is missed 😭
@JiMaKoS1234567
@JiMaKoS1234567 Жыл бұрын
If Alexander had lived long enough we would most likely have seen his administrative capabilities, some examples were the cities of Alexandria he created and how he envisioned them, the adoption of the Persian administration and a lot more that we overlook because of his insane military achievements.
@TroyJellyman
@TroyJellyman Жыл бұрын
From what we know of Alexander's kingship as well as regency he was a highly competent statesman. He kept Macedon well protected and wealthy while Philip was away during the regency and we have several anecdotes from Arrian and Plutarch which regard his kingly abilities as being quite good - reforming agriculture, building dams and making vast preparations to consolidate his rule while generally improving life in his empire
@benjamies4136
@benjamies4136 Жыл бұрын
Or we could have seen him completely flail and ruin everything.. we simply don't know what would have happened (biggie and Tupac surviving rings a bell...)
@TroyJellyman
@TroyJellyman Жыл бұрын
@@benjamies4136 Based on his statesmanship up to that point, that seems quite unlikely, though the toll of Hephastion's death was immense. If we had've survived, I agree it could go either way, but given all the shits he'd done and been through, it seems more likely he would've gotten through it. Just my take tho
@wheresmyeyebrow1608
@wheresmyeyebrow1608 Жыл бұрын
We should also be wary of some of the reasons people disliked him, and dispel myths like the idea he was some proto-cosmopolitan with the persian-greek marriage, even though ALL of the soldiers there divorced their wives as soon as Alexander died except for one lmao
@aaronnilestoussaint5672
@aaronnilestoussaint5672 Жыл бұрын
@@TroyJellymandepend though would he ever actually stop invading Alexander seemed focused on invading would he had fallen into the Rome trap and invaded so much it starts crippling the the Empire
@gannonpatton2858
@gannonpatton2858 Жыл бұрын
I love how Temujin needed zero explanation for why he's among the greatest of greats.
@zan4336
@zan4336 Жыл бұрын
Cyrus definitely deserves his own tier. Dude conquered massive amount of territory, established proper rule, was religiously tolerant and had a massive cultural impact that'd last for centuries. There's nothing this guy couldn't do and definitely the greatest of the greats.
@mrtrollnator123
@mrtrollnator123 Жыл бұрын
He also built the second temple for the Jews and also brought them back from exile, he was so impactful that apparently he was the only non-jew to be a messiah
@skeletorlikespotatoes7846
@skeletorlikespotatoes7846 Жыл бұрын
Eh
@HamidrezaKhoroushi
@HamidrezaKhoroushi 4 ай бұрын
He was the first conqueror in history and the first great king
@Cupcake_Cap
@Cupcake_Cap Жыл бұрын
Don't listen to the hate comments Laith. This video was very interesting and fun to watch and I do like hearing diffrent people's perspectives and opinions on matters like this. Please continue this series!
@LaithClips
@LaithClips Жыл бұрын
14:54 That's kind of a bar "Fratricide, Patricide, Genocide, Crocs So many cides you can call man a box" I wanna see an ERB between Mithridates and Pompey that'd be fire
@cuniving7831
@cuniving7831 Жыл бұрын
I think you really undervalue the importance of religion in this list. To be clear, I'm personally an athiest not like a Christian nationalist or anything. But religion was just SO important at both the state and the individual level that it's difficult to justify ignoring it.
@WhiteLama
@WhiteLama Жыл бұрын
True, but also if there was a ruler who was simply called “The Great” because he massacred people of the wrong religion, I can see how it’d be a bit hard to discuss on a KZbin channel.
@liamreilly951
@liamreilly951 Жыл бұрын
Agree with this, in the sense that religion effectively = culture up until nationalism, especially for the regions this list is focused on
@TechnicalHotDog
@TechnicalHotDog Жыл бұрын
I think the reason is that typically there's bias in the other direction, where those religious greats are propped up above where they might belong because the history is told through a religous lense
@UniDocs_Mahapushpa_Cyavana
@UniDocs_Mahapushpa_Cyavana Жыл бұрын
@@liamreilly951 Certainly not for Germany, Russia, Iran, China, or India. Though they pretty much always had nationalism. Of course, their religions are sometimes co-opted for them. Though the most important parts of culture tend to be the ones you do subconsciously, without thinking, such as: • Monogamy or the various forms of polygamy • Your attitude to national interests • Your attitude to religion 🗄, distinct from the religious beliefs • Your beliefs about a human's utility and monetary value 💎 • Your attitude to diplomacy • Your attitude to judging people • Your beliefs about the world • Your beliefs about yourself
@UniDocs_Mahapushpa_Cyavana
@UniDocs_Mahapushpa_Cyavana Жыл бұрын
@kevingrau2614 To be fair, this was back when humanity's semi-aquatic roots were still very obvious and coastal land was much more prosperous than dry land.
@janmayenese
@janmayenese Жыл бұрын
When it comes to lasting legacy, Charlemagne is definitely one of the GOATs. His renaissance made latin immortal (no native speakers but widely written). His commissioned re-classicized latin pronunciation from Alcuin is still used by the Catholic church today. The carolingian miniscule introduced the distinction between uppercase and lowercase letters, more punctuation, and the standardization of spaces between words in the roman alphabet.
@compatriot852
@compatriot852 Жыл бұрын
No idea why some Indians are so much in denial of Alexander and the Indo Greeks. It's a part of history and a really interesting one at that
@deeznoots6241
@deeznoots6241 Жыл бұрын
You think they’d be proud of being the ones to stop Alexanders conquests.
@cassu6
@cassu6 Жыл бұрын
@@deeznoots6241it’s not possible because of their fairytale empire that owned all of Asia lol
@Hypogeal-Foundation
@Hypogeal-Foundation Жыл бұрын
​​​@@cassu6 Keep crying we invaded and conquered Pakistan WHICH IS INDIA but muslim you are basically the same people. We did own the entire middle east and people though the world extended to persia and a few tribes.
@cassu6
@cassu6 Жыл бұрын
@@Hypogeal-Foundation Who are you talking about? I was talking about the Indian nationalist fairy tale empire...
@brtuh5865
@brtuh5865 Жыл бұрын
@@cassu6 those are only just some very misinformed people. please dont consider them as the majority.
@krawr2187
@krawr2187 Жыл бұрын
I think the craziest part about the time of Justinian is that you basically had his twin in Khosrow, major military conquests and victories, completely reformed the legal system and made major societal and military reforms. It’s kind of interesting to see how the moment Rome and Persia stopped fighting they immediately both had a sort of Renaissance in power and security.
@yaqubleis6311
@yaqubleis6311 Жыл бұрын
Khosrow I the immortal >>> Justinian the Great In 6 century Sassanian Empire under Khosrow I the immortal soul and Byzantium Empire at is greatest extent under Justinian the Great the 2 most powerful Empire of there time famously know as the two eyes of the earth but who was more powerful in 6 century the answer is Sassanian Empire let’s me explain Sassanian Empire won the war vs them and force them to pay tribute Khosrow I the Immortal also destroyed the Hephthalites ended the Sassanian Hephthalites war and also beat Aksumite Empire which was the most powerful Empire in Africa in that time they also made the Göktürk Empire look like complete joke in First Perso-Turkic War in 6 century Sassanian won almost 100 % of there war in 6th century including against Byzantium Empire most of the time strongest in 6 century is Sassanian Empire no argument
@Domina1190
@Domina1190 Жыл бұрын
Constantine didn't name Constantinopole after himself, the locals named it after him after he had died. (Edit: Also, it is extremely unfair to lower Constantine's glory simply cause he converted to Christianity, Constantine DEFINITELY deserved to be in The Great "Great" column
@nubnubdubdeh
@nubnubdubdeh Жыл бұрын
CONSTANTINES ENEMIES LITERALLY REFUSED TO LOOK AT HIM AND FEARD HIS DIVINE POWER WHAAAT
@ZygardeHM
@ZygardeHM Жыл бұрын
Please do more of these history videos and I can’t wait for more continents/subcontinents.
@tromedlovdrolmai
@tromedlovdrolmai Жыл бұрын
So here's a history question then Laith. Why do we not call Napoleon "the Great"? And why didn't France call him that before his downfall?
@hoodwalker6491
@hoodwalker6491 Жыл бұрын
same for Bismarck. Napoleon probably because he "defined" his name as the great. People didn't aspire to be "the great", but a "second Napoleon"
@christianb1373
@christianb1373 Жыл бұрын
@@hoodwalker6491Bismarck is heavily criticized nowadays because his ways perpetuated the Prussia militaristic culture which leads Germany down a dark path. Yes he unified Germany but it’s not a given that his methods justified the means.
@dafish259
@dafish259 Жыл бұрын
@Christian B Bismarck was remembered not because he’s a famed conqueror he’s remembered because he’s a funny character in German history that made german history and predicted ww1
@bcvetkov8534
@bcvetkov8534 Жыл бұрын
​@@christianb1373 His methods definitely did. Arguably without those methods there wouldn't be Germany.
@kindadumb916
@kindadumb916 Жыл бұрын
The fact that Xerses is called the great but Napoleon isn’t is one of the greatest injustices of history
@whosneekoh
@whosneekoh Жыл бұрын
not sure how the emphasis on Constantine's relation with Christianity knocks him down
@LeonardoDaSquishy
@LeonardoDaSquishy Жыл бұрын
You could do an Asian one with figures like Ashoka, Akbar, Rajendra, Sejong, Qin Shi Huang, Kublai Khan, Bayinnaung, Naresuan... I was also surprised to see figures like Sargon, Nebuchadnezzar, Simeon I and Vladimir of Kiev missing from this list. So definitely room for a part 2!
@gheddafiduck8239
@gheddafiduck8239 Жыл бұрын
Costantine never lost a battle and he’s the one with the greatest impact on history on this list, not putting him on greatest of all time is just wrong
@athelstan286
@athelstan286 Жыл бұрын
I usually don't comment on youtube videos, but you should definitely keep this series going. You're entertaining and seemingly knowledgeable about history, there's a need (and gap) for this type of content
@Bismarckii
@Bismarckii Жыл бұрын
Constantine is a greatest of al time. He arguably has more impact on World History than most people here. He won a civil war, made great works, and you cant reduce the impact he had on the Christian caite.
@buymybooks437
@buymybooks437 Жыл бұрын
Yes
@chazbrown1139
@chazbrown1139 Жыл бұрын
For me Charlemagne got the epithet because of his economic and cultural reforms. He centralized the Frankish currency and produced some of the first orderly writing systems. He also brought about basic schooling for the peasantry by introducing state sponsored education through chapel schools. While most of his actions are religiously driven he was a major reason as to why the romance language of French is the way it is today. He also influenced the formation of both France and Germany as Otto the Great only took the power he did because the House of Karling died out. I'd argue if the sons of Charlemagne did not infight as much they would have held a major stake in European affairs for century.
@Ceendru
@Ceendru Жыл бұрын
I think some more credit should be given to Constantine based on his military accomplishments, since he went from being setup to be the least of the tetrarch successors (and arguably the other Tetrarchs were originally all aligned against him inheriting any position at all) ruling the most peripheral state to defeating everyone else in succession until there was nobody else left. Sure, he had his dad's army to accomplish that, but so did Alexander. Some criticism should be made about him sabotaging his own succession by being a horrible dad though.
@atharvachavan6264
@atharvachavan6264 Жыл бұрын
Just the ck3 quote for Genghis Khan is enough: "Temujin is the punishment sent by Tengri to punish all 9f the worlds sins, for if the world wasnt full of sinners, why would Tengri have sent Temujin?"
@monkeydetonation
@monkeydetonation Жыл бұрын
How are you not going to mention that over his life, Mithridates built up a strong resistance to poisons, and then later tried to kill himself with it but failed due to the aforementioned immunity which he purposefully cultivated. Pretty funny stuff
@Borkus-fz2ku
@Borkus-fz2ku Жыл бұрын
Love seeing more direct history content keep it up! And dont forget to research the Lathe
@darksuperganon
@darksuperganon Жыл бұрын
I think labeling the pictures would help keep everyone straight, for both us and you. Either that or using more "fantastical" artwork like a Civ/Paradox portrait (IIRC Suleiman is one of the EU4 loading screens). But I'd still love to see more! Also, IIRC Cyrus the Great is the only non-Hebrew to be given the title "Messiah" which in a Jewish context means "Savior". So that's definitely a few extra points in his favor!
@Leo-ok3uj
@Leo-ok3uj Жыл бұрын
The only non-hebrew to be named messiah in the bible, there were more non-hebrews claimed as messiah but only Cyrus was remembered as one after centuries
@joshthemhome
@joshthemhome Жыл бұрын
Great video! I would love to see a Chinese emperor tierlist.
@oscarhess1376
@oscarhess1376 Жыл бұрын
The only problem with that is many of those rulers may be mythical and would it just have the ones with the Mandate of Heaven? China is the oldest society ever and would be impossible to rank all of them even if it would be interesting
@joshthemhome
@joshthemhome Жыл бұрын
@@oscarhess1376 you're right. Probably just the most famous ones. Although it would also be interesting to rank all the mythical ones
@carltonleboss
@carltonleboss Жыл бұрын
How about all emperors since Qin Shi Huang?
@comradeofthebalance3147
@comradeofthebalance3147 Жыл бұрын
@@oscarhess1376Mythical ones can be counted with your ten fingers. I think you meant to include Legendary? And even then, arguably can be counted with 10 fingers
@wheresmyeyebrow1608
@wheresmyeyebrow1608 Жыл бұрын
@@oscarhess1376 Brother this can applies EVERYWHERE though. The 7 Roman kings weren't real but there's plently of people doing tier lists on Roman leaders. In fact there's literally less mythical Chinese leaders than Roman Lmao
@afu357
@afu357 Жыл бұрын
There is also Vytautas the Great. Grand Duke of Lithuania during its peak. Maybe not so much on par with the rest of these greats but still interesting cunning character who helped set foundation for Polish-Lithuanian commonwealth. Great video, waiting for other like this
@matztz_4560
@matztz_4560 Жыл бұрын
Vytautas the forgotten one
@mrtrollnator123
@mrtrollnator123 Жыл бұрын
Wait was he the only king of Lithuania?
@koz3ris252
@koz3ris252 7 ай бұрын
@@mrtrollnator123 no, its was mindaugas. Poland didin't want him to be king so they sabotaged the Coronation by stealing the crown 2 times to make sure he dosean't become king.
@armoredindividual5582
@armoredindividual5582 Жыл бұрын
I agree with most of this list, but i do think Alfred should be in either in "not really great" or "the great" because the way that he turned the tide of the war and forced the norse to a peace in his terms is incredible in my opinion
@Nifn45
@Nifn45 Жыл бұрын
This was an excellent video, please do make more. My biggest gripe is with your placement of Alfred the great, as while I agree with your assessment of his military exploits, iirc under his rule the English language (or more accurately what would become the English language), sky-rocketed into one of the most prestigious academic languages in Europe (at least until William the conqueror turned up and ground it into the mud for the next 400 odd years)
@marrrtin
@marrrtin Жыл бұрын
I'd also rate Alfred for his cultural achievements, from writing the first book in English, starting the ASC and hiring Viking mercenaries to explore the Baltic, and also setting up the systems of fyrds, burhs and shires which his son and grandson would exploit decisively. Otherwise this video was hilarious and pretty well on the nose.
@zakariyaabdullahi5669
@zakariyaabdullahi5669 Жыл бұрын
@@marrrtin The administration created by Alfred would effectively make Anglosaxon England the most centralized and effective beauracracy in Europe prior to the norman conquest. Compare this to the Kingdom of France during the 10th - 12th centuries where The Kingdom was far less centralized than England. The Holy Roman Empire was during this period a lot more centralized and stabled than it would later nototiously become, but it still wasn't as well managed as England. Alfred's reforms not only saved England from being snuffed out by the Vikings before it even got a chance, but turned wessex from a more primitive saxon kingdom into a military and administrative powerhouse that with strong institutions that would be among the greatest powers in europe.
@stefankatsarov5806
@stefankatsarov5806 Жыл бұрын
@@zakariyaabdullahi5669 The problem is that Egbert laid the foundations of it all by having the most centralised and influential kingdom on the British isles and then Alfreds son actially made England a thing. So he is a bit more of a midle man or a part of a 3 man prosses.
@zakariyaabdullahi5669
@zakariyaabdullahi5669 Жыл бұрын
@@stefankatsarov5806 Well Egbert's Kingdom was nearly almost certainly fell. It was momentarily conquered by danes with Guthrum ruling wessex, with Alfred hiding in the somerset marshes. So Alfred isn't just a middle man, he brought back a Kingdom that momentarily ceased to exist and made it strong. Let's also keep in mind Alfred's Burh building project that Put a stop to the lightning vast viking raids that plagued the saxon kingdoms before they had all fallen, and the reformed military system with the fyrds building and manning the burhs, with all adult men eligble to be called up for conscription, supplemented by the King's professional army that would march to meet any threat. So I don't think its fair to call Alfred just a middle man
@JohnDoe-qx1eb
@JohnDoe-qx1eb Жыл бұрын
I am glad to see King Kamehameha I on the list as a Hawaiian it always makes me happy to see people speak of our Islands, and I wish you Laith a Great Day Mahalo Nui Loa for speaking of our King, and before I go I wanna share a fun fact Kamehameha was 7 Feet or taller or Over 2.1336 Meters we know this because of his cape or ahu'ula was About 6 feet and reached to his Ankles traditionally
@WhiteLama
@WhiteLama Жыл бұрын
Shoutout to Civ V for teaching me about Kamehameha.
@JohnDoe-qx1eb
@JohnDoe-qx1eb Жыл бұрын
Yes, he is fun may not be strongest but defiantly fun
@fureszadam3160
@fureszadam3160 Жыл бұрын
Hawaii is a really interesting us state in my opinion but I would have a question about Hawaii. Why did the independent Kingdom of Hawaii have the british flag in its own flag?
@JohnDoe-qx1eb
@JohnDoe-qx1eb Жыл бұрын
@@fureszadam3160 It's an intresting story with 2 parts of it the first is when King Kamehameha saw the flag he liked it and had his best fabric weavers make it into the modern Hawai'ian Flag, and second to solidify the Hawi'ian - British Alliance
@napalmrocks8571
@napalmrocks8571 Жыл бұрын
I think you should swap Justinian and Constantine but otherwise pretty spot on
@Hunteromega
@Hunteromega Жыл бұрын
I'm biased but Constantine should be higher. He went from the backwater of the empire when his father died as co-emperor to fighting with massive numerical disadvantage across Rome. He effectively set up the Byzantine empire to live another thousand years and was the guy who called the council to make The Bible. Religion aside being the guy who caused the most influential book, setting up many of these other greats as it widely united Christian thought, to be put together there is no doubt that he is top tier.
@flamingbat1139
@flamingbat1139 Жыл бұрын
The reason why Xerxes the Great is called such is because of a translation of one of the titles for the King of Persia.
@JoeGoesChug-A-Chug
@JoeGoesChug-A-Chug Жыл бұрын
Honestly, I was half expecting a sneaky little addition of Roger II in the GOAT category
@drgonzo1971
@drgonzo1971 Жыл бұрын
Alexander died really young and unexpectedly, I wouldn't count the lack of planning against him. Also Ramses did not build Pyramids - the Great Pyramids were already 1500 years old by the time he got around (he did build a lot of other stuff though).
@bcvetkov8534
@bcvetkov8534 Жыл бұрын
Alexander was "totally not murdered" by any of the men around him. Fever is a better term lmao
@Hannibalian
@Hannibalian Жыл бұрын
fun fact abt mithridates, he was so paranoid abt being poisoned that he committed himself to gaining immunity to it. then, when it came to committing suicide to prevent being humiliated by rome, he poisoned himself, and ended up surviving
@vittoriobr_6271
@vittoriobr_6271 Жыл бұрын
Closed the video as soon as you classified Alfred
@pecanick8140
@pecanick8140 Жыл бұрын
I´dont think I have ever heard anyone call Uros "The Great" or any other nickname, but thanks for including him on the tier list.
@alexwilliams8365
@alexwilliams8365 Жыл бұрын
I disagree with Constantine being only a Great. I think he should be in the tier above. Yes, a lot of his great points come from being the first Christian Roman Emperor, but he had a huge impact on Christianity and Europe as a hole. Whether or not Christianity would have become the dominant religion without his conversion is debatable, and even if it did come to dominate it probably would not have looked the same as it does today. The sheer amount that is influenced by him is staggering.
@history-edits315
@history-edits315 Жыл бұрын
YES JUSTINIAN IS A GREAT. Its so sad that so many great works are lost but Procopius fake history survives :(
@imperator7828
@imperator7828 Жыл бұрын
Heavy dIsagree on Constantine, dude was perhaps more influential than all others on that list, he should be at the top and definitely above Justinian and shit like Ramesses. He defeated various enemies of the Empires and all other romans that opposed him. He reformed the economy, reformed the military and his conversion signifies a massive change in human history.
@joaofrancisco42
@joaofrancisco42 Жыл бұрын
He's probably a bit biased against Christianity.
@imperator7828
@imperator7828 Жыл бұрын
@@joaofrancisco42 Definitely
@nedaraid3372
@nedaraid3372 Жыл бұрын
First. How dare you not include Simeon I of Bulgaria. Defenetly worth having a look at him in a later video. Second. I feel the reason Mithradetes could be considered "Great" is his contribution to medicine in addition to his military achievements.
@matztz_4560
@matztz_4560 Жыл бұрын
Simeon the pretty competent
@nedaraid3372
@nedaraid3372 Жыл бұрын
@@matztz_4560 Simeon the alright statesman
@memeboi6017
@memeboi6017 Жыл бұрын
@@nedaraid3372Simeon the solidly above average
@yaqubleis6311
@yaqubleis6311 Жыл бұрын
Shah Abbas the Great >>> Simeon I of Bulgaria
@itapi697
@itapi697 Жыл бұрын
I do agree with you about Otto the Great, but he got the idea of the Holy Roman Empire from Charlemagne and fixed the problem it had by creating the Holy Roman Empire that most are familiar with.
@petarvasic3866
@petarvasic3866 Жыл бұрын
The king/emperor who should have been on the list instead of Stefan Uros I is Stefa Uros IV Dusan "The Mighty". Dusan was an excellent general, administrator and lawgiver. He managed to expand the Serbian state and turn it into the strongest power in the Balkans at that time. His only fault is that he died early. The main reason he didn't get the title "Great" is that he has the title "Mighty"
@king_of_sin
@king_of_sin Жыл бұрын
Mythridates the 6th was technically a holy leader because when he was born he was born under a comet which was seen as a good omen and then when he was crowned king ANOTHER comet appeared in the night sky further reinforcing his holy status as a king crowned by the gods.
@Grippy_Gaming
@Grippy_Gaming Жыл бұрын
You should do a list of kings and emperors that should be called the great
@louisburke7930
@louisburke7930 Жыл бұрын
Justice for Alfred he defended his kingdom coming from being a third born son or something he defense Wessex against a much more powerful enemy he also secured peace with said vikings and also had a lot of great reforms such as transferring classical texts from Latin into English he also set up public schools and revised and reworked the law code
@Donerci_Pikacu_Usta
@Donerci_Pikacu_Usta Жыл бұрын
3:25 “Which lead up to a lot of things” *Shows himself in fullscreen in a frame*
@BruvvaUK
@BruvvaUK Жыл бұрын
We need more of these type of tier list, this and the general one was amazing!
@100notgeorgiesimpson7
@100notgeorgiesimpson7 Жыл бұрын
You should check out more Georgian rulers, for example: King Tamar of Georgia David IV of Georgia (The Builder) Heraclius II of Georgia George V of Georgia ( The Magnificent) Pharasmanes II of Iberia (The Merciful) Demetrius I of Georgia George III of Georgia Vakhtang I of Iberia (The Wolfheaded) Bagrat III of Georgia Vakhtang VI of Kartli
@crazyand2099
@crazyand2099 Жыл бұрын
Alfred the Great is the only reason England isn't Danish today. He is most definitely deserving of his title. You talk about Alfred's successors doing more but that wouldn't have even been possible if Alfred lost. You also blame Alfred for Cnut conquering England as if Cnut didn't conquer England 117 years after Alfred died.
@ArcaneCannonChey
@ArcaneCannonChey Жыл бұрын
I 100% want more history tier lists. The Alt history is made so much more enticing when you learn the circumstances of the men and women who in retrospect are far above their peers.
@Killerkwoi13
@Killerkwoi13 Жыл бұрын
You're harsh on Alfred the Great. Without his victory over the great heathen army, England may never have come to be, and our language, culture, history and identity would be entirely different.
@HasnoRats
@HasnoRats 5 ай бұрын
Didn't William shape the language way more?
@wyssmatt2804
@wyssmatt2804 Жыл бұрын
I'm surprised you did not put Pompe the Great in your list, as he was a consul of the republic, so he could be considered as a ruler, and a quite important one with a rich background: not a nobleman but managed to become a figurehead of Rome in the East, 3 triomphs, so much could have been said about him. I'm quite happy to see Cyrus in the top of this list, the man was a god-tier ruler , the whole known world revered him and he was even called the Messiah by the Jews Great video Laith, i love this kind of content!
@jasta5657
@jasta5657 Жыл бұрын
Bring on more of these types of videos and more regions rankings
@DonPedroTheDude
@DonPedroTheDude Жыл бұрын
The dismissal of Alfred is a bit irksome. Impact on history is surely huge through setting up England as a concept. Failures of later kings (and not even his immediate successors) canmot be attributed to him. His start was very bad, and going on a conquest spree was never on the cards. Just imagine how different the world would be without Alfred or Charlemagne.
@gregoriancalendar7747
@gregoriancalendar7747 Жыл бұрын
The sphere system is actually pretty smart as ranking all the greats at once is going to be pretty herculean
@sandercohen5543
@sandercohen5543 Жыл бұрын
I'm glad you pointed out how sweden did not have the *population base* to become a world power... and yet they did. Plenty of examples like this in history, but the way sweden was able to consistently beat the odds for a number of years is just crazy to me.
@dariuscross7837
@dariuscross7837 Жыл бұрын
Love the idea of the video. I often listen to their stories/history so good to see comparisons.
@spikethelizard2770
@spikethelizard2770 Жыл бұрын
I love your history-centric videos, defo my some of my favourite stuff on KZbin
@HypercopeEmia
@HypercopeEmia Жыл бұрын
8:19 you are absolutely correct about being wrong, "Szczerbiec" was made after the death of Boleslaw the brave and the swords legend of being chipped on the golden gate couldn't be true since the gate didn't exist during the time of Boleslaw, also I'd argue his father was greater then him
@jacobschmidt8441
@jacobschmidt8441 Жыл бұрын
As someone more familiar with Kamehameha, I think it’s fair to evaluate the small scope of his kingdom in comparison with the allowance of the geographical situation. But by the same logic, he made greater cultural and societal advancements than probably most any of the others.
@bcvetkov8534
@bcvetkov8534 Жыл бұрын
I think Kamehameha is such an underdog and an incredible man. Especially, since he didn't have a lot to go off on. He did the best he could. He literally created the Hawaiian state and identity.
@JohnDoe-qx1eb
@JohnDoe-qx1eb Жыл бұрын
I could not agree more so with what you have said
@0th_Law
@0th_Law Жыл бұрын
An interesting thing to think about for the next one of these is that there actually was a 21st Century king who has the epithet "The Great." The former Thai king: Bhumibol/Rama IX.
@itapi697
@itapi697 Жыл бұрын
Kamehameha I did a lot of impressive things not only did he unite all of the Hawaiian Islands, but he even got the respect of the British and avoided colonization of Hawaii because he maintained great relations with the British.
@IoanCenturion
@IoanCenturion Жыл бұрын
I've never heard Valentinian called 'The Great'. He was one of the most competent monarchs of his era, but he was overshadowed by Constantine and right afterwards, Theodosius. However, he did once get so angry that he straight up died on the spot, which is funny.
@PigArmey
@PigArmey Жыл бұрын
3:25 best green screen ever :)
@moaadben8485
@moaadben8485 Жыл бұрын
Maybe it would be better if the tiles of the kings had the name at the bottom, so that it is easier to follow
@CommonSwindler
@CommonSwindler Жыл бұрын
You should do another one of monarchs who deserve to be called “the Great”. Henry II of England is unquestionably at the top of that list, or Frederick II Hohenstaufen.
@bdleo300
@bdleo300 8 ай бұрын
Pretty solid list
@peteratkinson1957
@peteratkinson1957 Жыл бұрын
more of this stuff plz I like, love your stuff and committment to this plus everything else going on in your life. proud of you man keep up the great work
@frankiecedeno3724
@frankiecedeno3724 9 ай бұрын
The big laith jumpscare was so fast it legit surprised me
@giorgijioshvili9713
@giorgijioshvili9713 11 ай бұрын
I am so happy Solomon I made it to the list he is such a underrated king, Managed to defeat one of the largest empires alone
@halolong5461
@halolong5461 Жыл бұрын
Laith the Great will put the rest of the Greats to their place. What a great dude
@guest273
@guest273 Жыл бұрын
Ramesses should be higher just for making you go to the shadow realm for half a minute.
@BTea155
@BTea155 Жыл бұрын
I'd actually love to see a Tier list of US Presidents, seeing how someone who doesn't live here views them would be interesting lol. Love this video concept tho!
@tommyfromwiisportsbasketba4007
@tommyfromwiisportsbasketba4007 Жыл бұрын
you should do all the regions and then take all the s tiers and then tier list them against each other
@bane9933
@bane9933 Жыл бұрын
I think a tierlist of English/British monarchs could be interesting but I get that it might not be very popular
@Goblinsharkhundredsofthem
@Goblinsharkhundredsofthem Жыл бұрын
My brother in Christ, Charlemagne had a cultural impact on Europe as a whole that not making him one of the greatest of the greats would be a disservice to all he has done. His ideas and figure would literally become the base that nearly all European monarchs and aristocrats would compare themselves to.
@RoxanneM-o3t
@RoxanneM-o3t 5 ай бұрын
I really like the way this is presented and I love the Cyrus praise. He deserves way more recognition. Of course I have something to complain about, though ;). Louis XIV doesn't deserve to be nearly that high. I'd put him in the lowest tier of bloody average. I usually don't hear him being mentioned as 'the great' anyway. One of the ways others were judged in this video is for what they left behind for their successors. Him starting the Versailles system: removing nobles from their territory to basically fawn on the monarch, made them useless and left a vaccuum in the provinces. It set up the stage for the French revolution. Also, the revocation of the Edict of Nantes forced the Hugeneots to depart France, taking their trade networks, knowledge and wealth with them to countries that were often his adversaries. Financially, he drained the teasury for ultimately useless wars. He attacked the Netherlands with help from (of all people) the Brits and some German principalities and still couldn't conquer this tiny republic. Some others get points for starting new kingdoms or empires, but he just basicaly inherited from his father and had a doting mother that made sure his brother would not be any kind of competition for him. I would give him points for bringing order back to France, which was much needed after the Fronde wars and for cultural accomplishments. Yet I don't think he can measure up to the true greats in this list. One more thing: Ramses wasn't known for pyramid building. That happened mostly in the old kingdom way before. Having said all this, it's really enjoyable to listen to this and I learned several new things. Thanks.
@johnthicc8700
@johnthicc8700 Жыл бұрын
Terrible takes on Constantine and Charlemagne. Also massive under appreciation of the importance of religion in establishing a unified empire and identity. Unfortunate Laith L.
@idonhaveanyideawhattocallm1472
@idonhaveanyideawhattocallm1472 Жыл бұрын
Laith really forgot about the effect religious tension tends to have on empires
@UniDocs_Mahapushpa_Cyavana
@UniDocs_Mahapushpa_Cyavana Жыл бұрын
Virtually all religions 🗄 come with either monogamy or exclusive marriages within it (at least it attempts exclusion). Which prevents the much easier option of just marrying everyone.
@Nebulasecura
@Nebulasecura 10 ай бұрын
And a terrible take on alfred too. L move.
@dustindavis3537
@dustindavis3537 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely loved this, and would love to see more of this type of video for other regions, titles, and types of feats done throughout history.
@specil-k
@specil-k Жыл бұрын
Solomon's independence ended fifteen years after Krtsanisi, when Russia marched in and simply deposed him.
@mykelhedge7299
@mykelhedge7299 Жыл бұрын
Have to disagree on Alfred the Great - he was on the backfoot against an army that destroyed all other kingdoms, but still won. Had he failed to defeat the great heathen army then England and the English as we know it would never have existed. This would have had untold implications on global history. A Norse England would have had a base to attack the whole of Europe from, and with no 1066 event to end slavery in England, the thrall system would endure for centuries. Considering the UK's pivotal role in ending slavery, that means it would unlikely be ended, as it has existed throughout history but it was only the Anglosphere that not only banned it, but crusaded against it, much to the resistance of the rest of the world. No England, no Anglosphere, no abolitionist movement. Additionally, he instituted the Burgh system that fortified key locations and created an army, both of which helped his successors. He also promoted learning, and unlike Charlegmne he could actually read. He got his family into key positions in other courts, with the credibility bought by his victory. Granted it was his successors that united England, but it was uniquely Alfred that gave them the foundations. Had it been any other leader, then likely all of history would have been different. True he wasn't given the title 'Great' until centuries later, but in the 1,000 year since his death we can see the true impact of his life, and it is almost unmatched. Remove a single person from history and you create a new world over-time, but the current of how history flows will seldom change due to how rarely one's actions have such an impact. Alfred is one of the very few people that, if he is removed, would lead to a totally different reality.
@fieldmarshalofsuramar5225
@fieldmarshalofsuramar5225 Жыл бұрын
a tier list on norwegian kings could be fun
@TheRealRealMClovin
@TheRealRealMClovin Жыл бұрын
That thumbnail nearly got me XD But as many historians say ”Alexander is one of the few only people that deserves to be called the great”
@deanruskov9025
@deanruskov9025 Жыл бұрын
Damn you didn't include Tsar Simeon the great of Bulgaria? It's a shame, since he was actually a giga chad (i'm totally not biased at all)
@bosertheropode5443
@bosertheropode5443 Жыл бұрын
His dad was also quite nice (well, maybe he went a bit too far when he blinded his first born son after the whole "reinstating paganism" thing)
@stefankatsarov5806
@stefankatsarov5806 Жыл бұрын
@@bosertheropode5443 That was a common practice in the region at the time, since it meant he codnt rule over a nation acording to the customs.
@bosertheropode5443
@bosertheropode5443 Жыл бұрын
@@stefankatsarov5806 You're right, and to be fair it was a stupid idea to reinstate tengrism under Boris watchful eyes, it was pretty clear he wouldn't be very fond of that idea.
@SDArgo_FoC
@SDArgo_FoC Жыл бұрын
He’s too much of a Roman simp.
@afsmapping6092
@afsmapping6092 Жыл бұрын
I think you should definitely do tier lists for all the people in history with the same epithet, and rank them based on how feel they fit in said epithet. It would be very entertaining to watch.
@UniDocs_Mahapushpa_Cyavana
@UniDocs_Mahapushpa_Cyavana Жыл бұрын
Probably the most deserving is the entire city 🏙 of Novgorod, which regained "the Great" title and keeps it to this day. Also, the city of Venice deserved its title as the most serene Republic.
@ThetaCholchici
@ThetaCholchici Жыл бұрын
Great tierlist, I mostly agree but you really did Constantine the Great dirty there, he deserves one tier higher: Militarywise he was one of the best roman generals of all time, he never lost a battle even though he was outnumbered in most of his campains. He also didnt neglect the civilian side of ruling like many similar generals having a huge and long lasting legacy not only in religious but also administrative and byzantine history matters. Respect to Justinian too, many accuse him of overextention but considering the Justinian plage (and the impressive length of control over southern spain) you cannot really blame him, nobody can beat a plage. Frederic the Great is definitely impressive too, considering at his time and diplomatic situation large military gains were difficult to achieve (in comparison to the middle ages for example) he did way better than anyone could have expected, he fought numerous wars immediatelly after taking the crown, he defeated the Austrians and Russians several times being heavily outnumbered and personally lead his small northern german state to victory against some of the strongest European empires at the time, he revolutionized warfare with mobility and wasnt to proud to withdraw from unwinnable battles to conserve the little manpower he had. He was a well educated proponent of art and pilosophy in a time many Prussians saw art as unmanly and he shifted the whole purpose of the state from serving the king to serving the people, he supported religious freedom, for example he greatly grew the economy by inviting frensh refugees. Katherine the Great had it harder because she was a woman, but Frederic the Great had it also at least a little bit hard because he was gay. Comparing Frederics legacy to Prussia and later the German empire he is similar to Louis XIV. legacy to France, only that Frederic started wich a tiny nation backwards in almost everything exept military instead of a massive geopolitical powerhouse and Frederic II. never got decadent in any way. The only big mistake of Frederic II. was to need a litteral wonder to prevent him loosing in the seven years war, but few kings would have even managed to survive amainst the full migth of the Russian Empire, the Austrian Empire and the comtinental armies of the French Empire with nothing but a bit of British funding. I think putting him in the same tier as Peter the Great is justified.
@herr_culas9408
@herr_culas9408 Жыл бұрын
I'm also studying law, and I still see Justinian's codes cited alongside contemporary sources!
@micahbonewell5994
@micahbonewell5994 Жыл бұрын
I would say part of the reason why everyone knows about Alexander and not about Cyrus is that Alexander was the commander that every great western general aspired to be, he invented new concrete tactics that are still studied to to this day, he made Greek the language of the Ancient Near East rather than a regional language, he made the spread of Christianity possible. He's also one of the best documented historical figures, with several biographies written near or during his lifetime, he left behind many cities named after him, he comes to us in vivid colour. Whereas Cyrus had few surviving first hand sources that made it to today, so in some ways he is more mythical or legendary, whereas Alexander is more "real". Even if his accomplishment were grander, we know much less about him.
@jaskrip
@jaskrip Жыл бұрын
Constantine is in the GOAT category with ease.. For one, he is the very only Roman Emperor who never lost a single battle, whether in civil wars or against barbarians, and afaik the only of 2 romans to hold that extremely impressive claim, the second being the great Scipio Africanus who defeated Hannibal himself. The Battle of the Milvian Bridge was one of the most important battles ever and changed the course of history. It can be argued that Christianity would've eventually become the dominant religion no matter what, and while I agree with that statement, it would've come later and I doubt the man embracing Christianity would've been as solid as Constantine (who was probably not even the first Christian emperor, some believe Philip the Arab was a secret Christian) and it would have had such an impact on the world. Then there's building Constantinople aka Nova Roma as he called it, he saw that the east had more chance of survival (and likely prefered it as the West was much more pagan during his reign) and Byzantium was geographically nearly impenetrable, which didn't fall until over 1000yrs after his death. Dude basically built a freaking thousand year empire. As for Justinian, ehhh. Maybe "great" great tier at best.
@joshuanuciola8070
@joshuanuciola8070 8 ай бұрын
If I recall Kamehameha was the reason it took so long for the Europeans to take over Hawaii and is the reason behind the islands technological advancements
@aceiolu4670
@aceiolu4670 Жыл бұрын
Love these kind of videos, keep it up the tier list is great
@WeAreYourMaker
@WeAreYourMaker Жыл бұрын
Clearly we also need a follow up reaction to this ERB's Ivan VS Alexander
@Ludovicus1769
@Ludovicus1769 Жыл бұрын
Amazing video, I love this style! I also like the idea of videos about other parts of the world. But beyond that I’d love to see your opinion on, for example, Napoleon, who was sometimes referred to as the Great, for obvious reasons. Or perhaps Valdemar the Great, as I am Danish. Speaking of that, I very much agree with your placement of Canute the Great on this list, among most other figures.
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