I made my own RTX 3060 Ti SUPER! - Nvidia RTX A4000 Mod

[@WiltshireTutorials]

Hope you all enjoy the video! I plan on doing a more technical breakdown on the A4000 with many more benchmarks! If you have any questions about OptiFlex or the modded A4000, I'm always around! 😁

[@marekwisniewski5572]

Now Try MSI AB 4.6.4 beta 3 on moded rtx A4000 ;)

[@WiltshireTutorials]

You've got me excited, if that allows me to boost the power limit!

[@marekwisniewski5572]

@@WiltshireTutorials check igorslab article on rtx a5000 overclocking

[@WiltshireTutorials]

Is the capability limited to just the 4.6.4 Beta 3? I can't seem to find a link to that version

[@marekwisniewski5572]

for overclocking I'll suggest to disable ECC on Vram. - Im courious if your 8 pin power connector will be utylised ;) ? since PCB of rtx 3070ti is much more expanded I doubt that rtx a4000 can handle much more power but I think 5-10% increes is possible

[@GewelReal]

damn, Ampere Quadros are killing it. A2000 being the most powerful LP card and this thing being a tiny 3060Ti at half the power consumption

[@WiltshireTutorials]

The Quadros have really surprised me for the Ampere generation! They're really power efficient, which helps for ITX builds

[@mutasimrahman6833]

Ik this is a long ways a way, but it will be interesting to see what a 4050 or a 4060 can bring to Optiflex!

[@WiltshireTutorials]

We'll see what it can do! Hopefully they make one that doesn't draw too much power and can fit inside the Dell chassis!

[@WiltshireTutorials]

@@elvisvasquez97 ​ Don't know what Dell Optiplex you're referring to, but the Asus RTX 4070 Dual does not fit in OptiFlex's case. Max length is 235mm for a GPU. The ASUS RTX 4070 Dual is 267mm. The A4000 also uses less power at 140W. Which is less than both the RTX 4070 (200W) and the 3060 Ti (203W)

[@elvisvasquez97]

@@WiltshireTutorials zotac 4070 dual fan. 226mm length for the card. If posting is wrong apologies for wrong info. Going by zotac and Newegg. Have zotac 3060ti and it's numbers are close

[@WiltshireTutorials]

@@elvisvasquez97 Hmmm, the RTX 4070 Twin Edge from Zotac could potentially fit, you're right. I wasn't aware of Zotac making much a small 4070. I own and have used the RTX 3060 Ti Twin Edge OC in OptiFlex. Although, it's right up against the front intake Noctua slim 80mm fans. Removing the fan in its way or modifying the fan a little may allow a 4070 to fit. The only thing I would be concerned with is the GPU thermals. I had a very hard time trying to control the 3060Ti Twin Edge OC's temperature. It would hover between 87-89°C. I have a feel the 4070 may do the same.

[@elvisvasquez97]

@@WiltshireTutorials I am buying it and trying it out and will report back on the thermals. So far I see the wattage is similar or lower than a 3060ti but going off random benchmarking videos. To add maybe some safe undervolting to improve thermals and avoid throttling maybe work who knows?

[@sp4c3d0ut9]

Thats awesome man glad im subbbed

[@WiltshireTutorials]

I appreciate you subbing! It means a lot! You should check out the shunt mod video I just released too! 👍

[@classicmartini]

As a few others have already said... "RTX 4000 SFF Ada Generation"...? ;-) From Sydney, Australia - Love your work.

[@WiltshireTutorials]

This very well may outpace that card after being shunt modded. So, we'll see! Need to get my hands on one

[@classicmartini]

@@WiltshireTutorials Well that 'promise' got *my* sub ;-)

[@WiltshireTutorials]

@@classicmartini No promises lol. Still going to try to get ahold of one to mess around with 😁

[@georges617]

Nice one. :) Another compact mid-range card is Powercolor's RX 6700 XT Fighter, which is even thinner and shorter than the A4000. Thanks to 12GB VRAM, it is also a great and very affordable option for gaming and CAD work (Radeon Pro drivers can be installed for it).

[@WiltshireTutorials]

Thanks! :D The 6700XT would be a fun card to use with OptiFlex. The only thing is, I don't think the card will fit inside of the Dell Chassis. The Zotac Twin Edge OC 3060 Ti just barely fit in the case and the 6700XT Fighter is a few millimetres longer.

[@marekwisniewski5572]

Still don't forget RX 6700 XT is 230 W TPD and RTX A4000 is only 140W TPD !!! it means you need at least 100-150 W bigger PSU and you will pay much more for Energy bills

[@jibrilherrcherofhorny4448]

Should try the A4000 SFF it's only 70w

[@WiltshireTutorials]

Already on it, as I had a hand in development of the A4000 power mod that was just released

[@jibrilherrcherofhorny4448]

@@WiltshireTutorials cool ! Hope we gonna see a video about it soon then

[@gauravkarmakar6969]

Man oh man, when you're gonna ever stop surprising me with these outstanding #optiflex videos?

[@WiltshireTutorials]

Whenever I run out of idea for OptiFlex lol. I'm glad you like the OptiFlex content so much! I appreciate it.

[@troyw6681]

Hi, I was one of the first to mod the A4000 in my Neon Rocket build. I noticed you attached that 8-pin, and that is VERY interesting. it got me thinking ... We know the A4000 is cut down 3070 Ti, right? It's got the guts, but it's power limited. Do you think it's possible with that 8-pin to add a shunt mod to restore that performance? Shunt modding was very popular with the A2000. Lots of videos on it. And there are few whispers on reddit that it is possible with the A4000. I've never seen proof. But, how cool would it be to have the smallest 3070 Ti in existence? It might be time to experiment! But, I'm not sure where to start. You seem to have the solder skills. I wonder what we could do to up the voltage from the A4000 stock 770 millivolts to the RTX 3070 Ti spec of 1040 millivolts.

[@WiltshireTutorials]

Small world, Troy! I saw your build the other day! Very cool build, by the way! Ironically, NVIDIA left the traces attached to the motherboard for the 8-pin to be soldered back on. Not sure why they did that? Maybe to re-use the PCB design for other cards? I do know it is the same GPU die as the 3070 Ti. I think it's definitely possible to allow more power by shunt modding. That was the next step to the mod that I'm going to experiment with. The problem I'm facing is that I don't know how to identify which shunt is the correct one for the 8-pin that I've soldered on. Perhaps it's the closest shunt to the connector? I'll have to figure it out with a multi-meter. The VBIOS still makes the card think the 8-pin is a 6-pin connector. So, that may need to be modded? I'm also unsure what the card will do because it still thinks it has a 6-pin connector on it once the shunt mod is done. Another option is to mod the VBIOS to change the power limit. That in combination with the 8-pin mod may allow us to increase the power to the stock 3070 Ti amount of 1040 millivolts. Only problem is, I have no idea how to mod Ampere VBIOS. I'm not sure it has been done yet either! If we could find the help of someone or find a tool that would allow the customization of the VBIOS, we may be in business!

[@troyw6681]

​@@WiltshireTutorials Small world indeed. And thanks man, that was a fun build. I've got a crazy plan to use an HDPLEX psu and put water watercooling into it next. We have the same thoughts on why that 8-pn works. I'm hoping they intended for that PCB to be re-used with multiple power profiles? Yeap, a few possible things to try. Shunt modding, VBIOS, copper modding. VBIOS = Editing the VBIOS seems to be a non-starter because of the checksum protection nVidia put in place. Haven't seen any progress on that. But wholesale flashing a VBIOS from a different card IS a thing. Folks have done that successfully. Not sure which one to try, perhaps the one with most similar PCB. TechPowerUp has list of 3070 Ti VBIOS available including the FE. Those VBIOS probably expect the 8-pin to be active? For shunt modding, I'm not sure which resistors either. As a starting point, Overclock.net forum has a generic RTX 3XXX shunt modding guide. They start with just adding liquid metal to the top of existing resistors to test. But same questions as you, which resistors? Trying to crowdsource a bit, I've crossposted this same q on Reddit and a few forums. One person on reddit claims to have shunt modded the A4000. A third option - it won't up the voltage- but someone could try is copper modding the memory? I don't know if temps are limiting the mem frequency on the A4000 GDDR6 modules, but it was for a lot of the GDDR6X modules in the 3000 series. Some good products and videos available for that.

[@WiltshireTutorials]

Sorry for the super late response. For some reason this comment got flagged by KZbin and I had to manually approve it. Looking forward to seeing what you do with the HDPLEX PSU. Sounds like an interesting and cool mod that you have up your sleeve! I did a little bit of research and this is the same PCB as the PNY GeForce RTX 3060 12GB XLR8. So, I wonder if we took the 3070 Ti VBIOS from the PNY GeForce RTX 3070 Ti 8GB XLR8 Gaming REVEL and flashed it. Would it potentially work? I figured Nvidia had done something stupid to not allow us to modify the VBIOS. Wasn't aware that they had put a checksum in place. That's honestly disappointing to hear. I'm thinking that shunt modding is probably the way to go for the result that we're looking for. We just have to figure out what shunt it is! I may be able to get the assistance of Buildzoid, as I've had a few back-and-forths with him about the RTX 2080 Prototype I have. He may be able to provide some expertise on the matter. Also, considering the RTX A4000 PCB is eerily close to the PNY RTX 3060, we could maybe check to see if someone has shunt modded that and use it as an example for what shunt to short? Could be a clue! I definitely believe the person on Reddit claiming they've done it. Definitely possible to do. If it's possible on the A2000, definitely possible on the A4000 too. I would say it's definitely worth a shot to try copper shimming the memory chips. May be able to squeak out some additional performance by lowering their temps. GDDR6X runs quite a bit warmer than just GDDR6 memory. But, still worth a shot.

[@troyw6681]

@@WiltshireTutorials - Heads up! Shunt mod and 3070 Ti performance confirmed! User jkgventures (famous A2000 modder) over overclock forums just pulled it off! He's getting 3070Ti performance and is currently battling for the top spot on 3DMark benchmarks. Thermals and power draw look great!

[@WiltshireTutorials]

@@troyw6681 oh! That's some exciting news! Did he go in depth with the card on what shunts he needed to mod?

[@mr.simmonds5681]

Why didn’t you overclock it? This card can easily do 200mhz + on the core and 1000mhz + on the memory.

[@WiltshireTutorials]

It actually can't overclock too well. Reason being is that it is power limited/locked to only allow 140W power draw. You can't increase the power limit slider past 100. If I were somehow able to unlock the power limit via VBIOS mod, then it would become an OC monster and would blow past the 3060 Ti. Plus, when making benchmarking videos, it is always best to benchmark without an OC first. Not everyone is going to overclock a card and you need a baseline for performance.

[@GeneralSouthParkFan]

​@@WiltshireTutorials The A4000 can still very much OC, especially with a cooler replacement that lets GPU Boost 3.0 work more effectively. Applying a core offset affects the entire voltage/frequency curve, & consequently will increase clocks regardless of voltage. Not even considering that you won't have to worry about a progressively steeper v/f curve (For instance, my AVG bin 3070 Ti will do 1.7GHz @ 825mv, 1.9GHz @ 925mv, & 2GHz @ 1.025V. The amount of gains in clocks that are seen with higher voltages really starts to diminish especially in regards to Nvidia's customized version of SS8N). Conversely, you can also target a voltage that remains in the power budget of your GPU. I've seen 793mv/1.8GHz be possible on good bins, so it should be very possible to match a 3070 at a fraction of the power. These are some examples of A4000 OCs that seem to work pretty nicely. www.reddit.com/r/sffpc/comments/zjs58i/3060ti_vs_a4000_comparsion/ hwbot.org/submission/4815039_

[@kva3262]

Thank you for a detailed review! Are you still using your A4000?

[@WiltshireTutorials]

Yes! I'm daily driving the A4000. Still working great! I have it overclocked as well

[@kva3262]

@@WiltshireTutorials Yep, I have watched all your videos about it! Thanks for 3D Mark comparison data, was very useful for me.

[@WiltshireTutorials]

@@kva3262 I appreciate the continued support! If you have any more suggestions for benchmarks that you'd find useful, let me know!

[@nephron9924]

Soo .. when's the follow-up? I see someone's on a timespy leaderboard 😉

[@WiltshireTutorials]

Hey! You're not supposed to see that... 👀🤫 The follow-up is being uploaded as we speak and should be live tomorrow around noon.

[@nephron9924]

Ok you twisted my arm. I bought one and that cooler too! Damnit lol.. the only problem I see is tho is there any way to connect to a HDMI 2.1 TV? It seems like no. Looking forward to the follow up to this. Any O.C results (small as they may be) would be cool to see. I wonder if any other mad lads out there have found a way to unlock the power limits. Especially since you have a soldered connection on there.

[@WiltshireTutorials]

You can use an active Displayport to HDMI adapter to connect it to your TV. You'll be limited to 40K60 though. So, if you have a high refresh TV, you'll need to use 1440p144. Make sure not to get an adapter that runs at 4K30. The one adapter I like is made by Plugable. I was working on the follow-up video and I unfortunately got COVID and that stopped me dead in my tracks for about 9-10 days. I'm finally on the upswing of things and am getting my energy back. But, I haven't made much progress for the follow-up. The only thing I can think of to do for increasing the power limit is to shunt mod that card.

[@nephron9924]

@@WiltshireTutorials hey man sorry COVID got you down. I hope you get to feeling better by the time you read this..I'm a Ortho trauma nurse and when my floor was converted to a COVID unit the protocol at that time was zinc, vitamin d and vitamin c. Seemed to help other than that we didn't do much unless their respiratory sys was declining. Then that was a different story....aanyway I'm rambling again. Yeah I was thinking about a shunt mod as well but that's way out of my league. I was gonna ask someone locally to do the soldering for me but also I need someone to look at the PCB to find the shunts, calculate the correct resistance values and source them. Seems like a lot of miners shunt mod the A2000 with great results. I saw a guy on Reddit showing his off and offering his service as he has a brick and mortar console repair/pc shopin Austin tx but looks like he's been off reddit a couple months. I sent him a message but maybe I'll just call the store I think he's at and ask him. Plus Austin isn't too far away from me. Anyways have a good day man. Thanks for making awesome videos! Super cool to watch even if my wallet kinda hates me now lol

[@WiltshireTutorials]

@@nephron9924 Thanks! Luckily for me, COVID didn't have any respiratory effects on me. It mostly felt like the Flu. My symptoms included sore throat, heavy congestion, headaches, burning eyes, severe body aches, high fever of 104.5F for 5 days and loss of sense of taste and smell. Even though I cannot taste or smell a single thing still, I'll gladly take that over lung damage or death. I've tested negative now, but I've been left with really low energy as well. I'm looking into shunt modding the A2000 that I have just to see what kind of gains it gets from doing so. Soldering looks intimidating, but isn't so hard. I learned by buying a soldering station and just practicing on some wires. All I did was solder them together over and over. The most important thing is to find the correct shunt for the card. Glad you like the videos! Hope I'm able to find the energy to finish the ones I've been working on soon! Sorry about the wallet :p

[@nephron9924]

@@WiltshireTutorials lol no worries the wallet will thank me later for the awesome value and potential this card holds! Mine comes in tomorrow. One last thing about the taste and smell. My wife (she a primary care physician) highly suggests over the counter fluticasone/Flonase along with using a saline nasal rinse/spray to regain smell and taste soon. . apparently the longer it takes to regain your smell/taste the more potential of permanent change your brain registers smell and taste later on so trying adding "olfactory training" into your recovery if you want to get maximum recovery and you'll be good as new. Fatigue and brain fog is common. Apparently the newer strains of COVID have a higher chance of dysregulation of coagulation and can lead to systemic microclots (typically not a serious concern; ie don't need to go to the hospital for this) including the brain. Sometimes adding daily aspirin is a good idea but that's definitely something you want to ask your doctor based upon your recent blood work and medical history. Anyways get well, recovery and I'll be looking forward to your next video whenever it comes out. Meanwhile I just ordered a itx case from AliExpress (D21 pro) that I'm going to put this card in and if I did my homework right I will be fitting 3x 120mm rads into with my (older but still relevant i9 9900k) I did a video on it in my KZbin channel of it into a cool matx case that's like a cooler master nr200p

[@WiltshireTutorials]

Hopefully you like the card as much as I do! I found mine used for a pretty good price. Interesting. Thanks for the information on the recovery process. I'll look into things a bit more when I get a spare moment. Good luck with the new build! Hopefully everything is able to fit inside the case. That case is an interesting one. Just took a peek at it on AliExpress. The handle on it would be handy for travel.

[@BarlitosC]

Ecc going to come in handy adding magnets lol

[@WiltshireTutorials]

The magnets haven't affected the GPU's stability what-so-ever. Rock solid in terms of stability! I guess it matters where you place the magnets and how strong they are. Obviously, avoid the die and the memory chips.

[@geok1ng]

Did you made shunt mode as well?

[@WiltshireTutorials]

I have not made the shunt mod. I only came up with the 8-pin power mod. I'm actually in collaboration as we speak to figure out the shunts and what we need to do to bring out the power to 3070/3070Ti levels. So, it's coming soon!

[@backlogbuddies]

Do you have another channel? Also I am so upset I just found out about the A4000. I just bought a 3060TI and I'm having those same VRAM issues.

[@WiltshireTutorials]

I have 2 channels. @WiltshireGaming for Let's Plays and similar gaming videos and this one here @WiltshireTutorials which is my main channel and is for tech videos. A lot of people overlook the now defunct Quadro line-up of cards (Nvidia dropped the Quadro name and just uses the A-XXXX naming scheme now). They're really awesome cards and are SUPER efficient.

[@Derpderpson123]

DELL E L L KEEP UPLOADINGGGGGG

[@WiltshireTutorials]

There's more to come! Thanks for the continued support! I appreciate it! :D

[@CornBreadMan264]

Would it be possible to put a A5000 bracket on the A4000? I see on one side of the A4000 bracket is longer, but still have a hole on the PCB that might align with the A5000 bracket?!

[@WiltshireTutorials]

What bracket are you referring to? Do you mean the heatsink?

[@CornBreadMan264]

@@WiltshireTutorials The A5000 PCI Bracket.

[@WiltshireTutorials]

@@CornBreadMan264 it may be possible not sure without seeing measurements

[@TungNguyen-cj7lv]

Did you have to modify the cooler at all to fit? (Cutting fins, etc)

[@WiltshireTutorials]

Nope! No cuts or modifications were made to the cooler just screw on and go! All the hardware is included as well. If you plan on keep the 6-pin power pigtail attached to the card, I would recommend trimming a few fins off around the cable. It'll get slightly pinched against the heatsink and the PCB. I soldered an 8-pin PCI-E power port onto the PCB to avoid having to trim anything off of the cooler.

[@thelasthallow]

you could have put some thermal pads between the back of the card and the back plate so at least it would help with cooling.

[@WiltshireTutorials]

Backplate that I made was plastic and purely for aesthetics. It would not help whatsoever if I put thermal pads on it.

[@thelasthallow]

@@WiltshireTutorials well shit man, it looks good. to me on video it looked metal and im like "man perfect for a backside heatsinc" good job on the build looks good!

[@marekwisniewski5572]

Have you try OC with new cooler ? it should perform like rtx 3070 or even rtx 3070ti since it has same GPU as 3070ti

[@WiltshireTutorials]

It would definitely be close in terms of performance to an RTX 3070. There is only one problem though; the power limit. It seems like NVIDIA has locked out increasing the power limit on the A4000. It would need to be changed in the VBIOS somehow or via a workaround. I don't think any exist at the moment.

[@marekwisniewski5572]

@@WiltshireTutorials what about memory overclocking ? I saw mining rtx a4000 with very high memory clock - would it increes performance ?

[@WiltshireTutorials]

You can overclock a little bit. Would be much better with an unlocked power slider. But you can squeeze about +200 on the core and +1000 on the memory clock with the locked power limit.

[@marekwisniewski5572]

@@WiltshireTutorials have you tryed custom curve with afterburner ?

[@WiltshireTutorials]

@@marekwisniewski5572 Doesn't work, unfortunately

[@fredmec]

Finally someone give the correct name to it!

[@WiltshireTutorials]

Happy to see you like the name I came up with for the RTX A4000 :p

[@MirelRC]

Does A4000 run DLSS and RT? In games?

[@WiltshireTutorials]

I should've mentioned that! YES IT DOES! It can do DLSS and Raytracing just fine.

[@MirelRC]

@Wiltshire Tutorials that's cool. If you could do a test 3060 TI vs A4000 with RT I will appreciate it. Thanks for your great content.

[@WiltshireTutorials]

It'll be coming in the follow-up video I'm doing about the RTX A4000! Going to be doing more benchmarks comparing the 2.

[@themistoclesnelson2163]

Clever!

[@WiltshireTutorials]

Thanks :D Hopefully it helps others out looking for a power efficient low-profile GPU!

[@valentinolli8955]

How'd you attach the IO bracket anyway?

[@WiltshireTutorials]

Comes with screws with nuts to secure the bracket to the new heatsink

[@valentinolli8955]

@@WiltshireTutorials so THAT'S what those were for... thanks, the rear of my pc is a bit more aesthetic now.

[@WiltshireTutorials]

@@valentinolli8955 Glad to have helped!

[@patbluetree4636]

Nice job.

[@WiltshireTutorials]

Thanks :D

[@kuzzzzzzzzzzzz7511]

What is the smallest gpu length that more powerful than 3060ti and a4000?

[@WiltshireTutorials]

Probably the A2000

[@kuzzzzzzzzzzzz7511]

@@WiltshireTutorials what is a2000 is better than a4000??

[@WiltshireTutorials]

@@kuzzzzzzzzzzzz7511 No. The A2000 is not better than the A4000. It's just smaller

[@kuzzzzzzzzzzzz7511]

@@WiltshireTutorials what do you think of 4060 ti? Is great gpu card in the itx future build if the 4060 ti will price drop

[@WiltshireTutorials]

@@kuzzzzzzzzzzzz7511 the 4060 is a rip-off. Same goes for the 4070. I'd look at AMD's offerings instead

[@lemagreengreen]

A4000 is so expensive though, it's a nice card but... well unless you get lucky you're really going to pay for it. Shame since a card that is roughly the same as a 3060Ti but with 16GB of VRAM is all kinds of perfect! I want to be team 3060Ti but I just wish it had a 12GB version like the 3060, then it'd be almost as perfect as this A4000.

[@WiltshireTutorials]

I got mine for just under $400 CAD. So, definitely keep your eyes peeled for a deal on the used market. It may be an ex-mining card, but it still should be fine for daily usage. Mine was a previous mining card and it's still going strong as my daily driver for editing. Once you overclock the card a little, it's more like an RTX 3070 Ti. The A4000 actually shares the same GPU die as the 3070 Ti! The lack of VRAM kills the 3060Ti for me. It should've been 12GB, like you mentioned. Not to mention the A4000 runs so much cooler than the RTX 3060Ti does!

[@techracoon7180]

I'm missing the temperatures.

[@WiltshireTutorials]

What?

[@techracoon7180]

Temperature values of the GPU under load. Since you modded the cooler onto the GPU, I would have been interested in seeing how the cooler is performing mostly. It's usually the thing what I'm looking at when I mod a GPU with a different cooler. I was interested in seeing the temperature and cooling efficiency benefits of the mod. Ik it's an upgrade video but I miss this bit.

[@valenrn8657]

RTX A4000 has the full GA104 like RTX 3070 Ti.

[@WiltshireTutorials]

Yes, it does. I'm fully aware of that.

[@Priscillius]

interesting

[@zead9481]

how much is the a4000?

[@WiltshireTutorials]

That depends on where you can find it. From most bigger retailers, it's about $1400 (CAD). You can find them used for MUCH cheaper. Around $500-600 (CAD). I managed to get this one used for $350, as a company was upgrading and selling all their A4000s.

[@pedro.alcatra]

Please guys. Can someone show me a cheap cooler for my ASUS Turbo RTX 2080ti blower. The blower style can handle the heat really well. But it is loud as hell. The card just cost me 200 euros so I am not paying 100 euros for a cooler. If anyone has some tips for me I would be grateful

[@WiltshireTutorials]

Not sure you're going to find much of a solution without spending close to 100 Euros. Your best bet would be a Accelero Xtreme IV from Arctic or a Raijintek Morpheus

[@alyelloy1028]

Cut a square hole in the psu cover and put rgb in it

[@WiltshireTutorials]

I appreciate the suggestion. However, there gets a point where there is too much RGB. Having some subtle RGB is nice and not overbearing. I like the way the PC looks with the PSU shroud the way it is. Plus, I'm pretty much maxed out for cable managing room at this point.

[@alyelloy1028]

@@WiltshireTutorials that's okay but how about making a bit of the front cover transparent

[@WiltshireTutorials]

Personally, I wanted to keep the original look for the Dell Chassis. Somewhat sleeper, but somewhat gamer with the windowed side panel

[@drakata27]

I am team 3060ti cuz the a4000 is more than double the price

[@WiltshireTutorials]

Fair enough! If you go used, you may be able to find both the 3060 Ti or the A4000 for the same price. I got this A4000 for $300 (CAD) used. So, damn good deal for it

[@drakata27]

@@WiltshireTutorials oh I didnt know that

[@zerog4879]

I got used A4000 for $300 few months back, ive not done the mod as its under warranty, i undervolt it at 0.725v its great for gaming + stable diffusion, ive also used other AI programs like whisper, gpt-j-6b, 16gb vram is great. Any google collab program that runs on t4, t80 can run on A4000