I made regular players coach a professional Rocket League player

What happens when diamond, champ, and grand champ coaches unknowingly offer a professional Rocket League player some tips?
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[@SunlessKhan]

This was originally going to be 3 different pros, so all 3 coaches watched 2 additional pros. But just this one recording with jack ended up being almost an hour, so 2 more would have been way way too long to cut down so I changed it to just Jack. If I keep this idea going I know what to expect this time so I can plan a reveal and the end and stuff!

[@dejinaldoyt]

Nice

[@calvertplays]

I love your videos.

[@Epxclorer]

Yeah I think it definitely would gain a lot if the coaches could surprisingly get into a call with Jack. I think that would be entertaining

[@Z4CKY356]

Congrats on 2mil

[@JmKrokY]

Ok

[@quitt5371]

I wish Jack revealed himself to the coaches. They’d be shocked haha

[@MimZik06]

Yeah, I was waiting for that ffs

[@SunlessKhan]

Kind of kicking myself for not thinking of that - but this video did kind of evolve from a longer idea so I think that’s why I didn’t think to include a reveal.

[@darsh5722]

@@SunlessKhan All good. Still a great vid!

[@Slayr.]

@@SunlessKhan Make another. Trick overconfident coaches or players into coaching a Pro.

[@jeremykluttz7630]

@@SunlessKhan you think you could get a coach to critique their own replay without realizing?

[@deceptionsYT]

Hearing Jack's thought process at 8:18 for that play was nuts. Constantly changing directions repositioning in the perfect spot all based around a play that is changing in micro seconds. Kinda highlights the point that pro's aren't just more mechanical than you, they're smarter.

[@rafoh]

This comment said it better than I came here to say.

[@rowanlochnea]

One of the best pieces of advice I've ever heard for this game is positioning for every outcome. Be aware of what can happen and keep yourself in a position to react to those outcomes.

[@sohelshaikh1171]

@@osoriodav2 maybe not in general but they do make smarter in-game decisions. Else any bozo with good mechanics could be called a pro

[@gblawrence034]

It's also amazing how fast he must've made those decisions too. I mean, he took a minute to explain the decisions of a play that lasted like two seconds. He's making decisions informed by an analysis of the positions of every player on the field in tiny fractions of a second. It's quite amazing

[@beeefin]

man he just followed the ball on defense what is so nuts about that

[@crahs8]

"High diamond" lmao. Really just goes to show how easy it is to underestimate the skill level of a replay

[@thecakeredux]

I wouldn't generalize from that. This really just shows how bad that guy is at seeing good gameplay for what it is. One look at the execution on even the flips alone should be enough to know this to be a decently high lobby.

[@Scion15]

He probably assumed he wouldn't be asked to coach someone a higher rank than him. At least I hope so lol

[@francishernandez]

Nah i think the diamond just thinks he plays this fast and similar. Not realizing his gameplay actually much slower than he thinks. Replays are easy to critique as you arent actually the one playing and are just imagining things he would hope to do.

[@OsrsNooby]

@@thecakeredux good gameplay? they even said this was the worst game he played in months. He literally is playing like a high diamond in this replay with small moments of professional level of play.

[@thecakeredux]

@@OsrsNooby Imagine thinking he is playing like a "high" diamond. This is so clearly high level gameplay that it's just funny that someone would think otherwise. His worst game in months doesn't literally cut his mmr *in half* lmfao.

[@bobbydeclown8430]

Shouldve atleast let the ''coaches'' know who they coached and let them talk to Jack as a reveal

[@kairemnet1949]

Fr I was waiting

[@brad917]

absolutely that ending sorta came out of no where still love u khan

[@XpertPlazma]

Facts I wanted to see the diamond coaches reaction.

[@bobbedwiebey]

69 likes?

[@michael04__806]

yes

[@larz2411]

The thing with sunless is: you have rocket league content creators and you have sunless khan. He’s just different than everyone else in such a good way

[@aasimjessa6676]

completely agree with you. idk other people like Sunless, but ik a couple people like Leth (though Leth is also unique)

[@grapeman8612]

@@aasimjessa6676 but sunless is a lot higher quality, leth isn’t able to make sunless’ level of quality, because he posts daily instead of weekly.

[@abdullahalhanbali1537]

It's sunless and mertzy their content its just mentally different if yk what I mean

[@crowns9966]

I love the atmosphere of Sunless' videos as well, a lot of them feel very Saturday morning Idk how to explain but I like it

[@yar2000]

His videos are just top tier quality. Fun concepts that are well executed and presented. I personally dont like this game at all anymore (reached GC a while back, game got very boring and repititive to me after ~750 hours) but I’ll make time to watch Sunless’ content. There’s very few people who can do that for me. Two others I can think of off the top of my head are WarOwl and KliksPhilip. Watched their content when I played CS for the first time, watched it when I stopped, watching it now that I’m playing CS again. Just great content.

[@DSmicklas]

This was a dope concept and execution. Jacks replay and real tine analysis is fantastic. I suspect he will end up coaching when he stops playing competitively.

[@peeks5553]

Lower ranked players tend to think that staying further away from the ball when you don't have it is the best way to play. That's mainly because in order for them to hit certain shots/balls/etc. They have to angle themselves properly. They can't just go for everything like a mechanical player can.

[@sisco_rl7160]

Jack is the most wholesome pro RL player. Such a great mentality for the game.

[@9LivesDeepDives]

Gotta respect a guy who can agree with someone they made a mistake despite knowing how much more skilled he actually is.

[@jake5403]

Alternate Title: “ApparentlyJack coaches some coaches who think they know how to coach”

[@laurence2704]

The GC Coach is a really good coach you shouldnt judge him by only what Jack says

[@cleffff]

@@laurence2704 Jack is good I think he know who is decent at the game lol 😆

[@laurence2704]

@@cleffff that coach has coached RLCS teams but sure go ahead you know better lol

[@bradley7347]

@@laurence2704 Ace isn’t claiming he knows better he’s just saying that maybe Jack is right.

[@jake5403]

@@laurence2704 bruh it was a joke. Obviously he knows what he’s talking about

[@reedclippings8991]

Jack's humility and openness. This is how people get great at things. Not just car soccer..anything.

[@lefthanded3446]

I love how humble Jack is and comments on coaching tipps with sense even if the coaches are outclassed in game sense by a metric ton

[@gblawrence034]

I really love the way Jack explains his decisions

[@glizzygunna6541]

Dope to see that he understands lower ranks having different perspectives tuned to their different skill sets rather than just shitting on the Diamond coach for being Diamond lol

[@Bweyg]

Altho, Im kinda with the crowd with this one, Im sorry but I just cant with the "Probably high diamond" comment XD

[@AntonTheKicker]

Your videos are so good! It's always a banger week after another. I've been a fan for a long time now, and you've even inspired me to start making my own Rocket League videos!

[@JesseBehr1]

Yes sunless! “One Saturday morning!” Cartoon style delivery from days of old. Also love ApJack ty for the content!

[@crowns9966]

Yeah fr I just commented that a second ago, I'm glad other people see it as well

[@Chicken_Dippers]

7:50 Sunless is spot on here. Getting out of plat is about playing defensive for the most part and not aggressive. You can’t do fakes at this level because people just ego challenge everything but they don’t aim at where the ball *might* go. They aim directly at the ball. You'll never see them shadow defending either they just fly straight at you. Those people get stuck in plat and don’t climb because of nasty 50/50s or redirects as a result and being out of position. I had to adapt to this and after trying tricks flicks and fakes for ages but being hard stuck in plat. Finally diamond, its kinda the same in D1 though but not as bad 😂 Also, this is getting a bit long, but in plat/diamond not many people speed flip, kickoffs make the ball fly high and randomly so cheating up is very hard because you can either over commit or under commit. This is true at higher levels too but no where near the extent of "holy shit it’s over my head an in our net"

[@lukeskywalker6622]

Actually a really good watch, being able to hear different perspectives/ideas from different skilled players on different scenarios etc. Top stuff

[@swaythekid]

Jack is so wholesome man 😂 he could’ve went off on the c1 coach

[@nickbelshe9248]

pleeeease do more of this series with different pros. was actually more informative for me to hear jack break down why the coaches may or may not have been right or wrong, than had i just watched a straight forward replay analysis. not to mention it was funny, entertaining, and made for some good trolls

[@diplogod5704]

If you go to apparently Jack's channel he commentates every game with his deicision making and why he's doing it, kinda like this video

[@nickbelshe9248]

@@diplogod5704 haha thank you appreciate it, yeah i watch some of his content too. I just liked the differing perspectives here in this video, and him breaking down their coaching tips, rather than him just commentating over gameplay

[@BoredDan7]

I think a lot the difference between Jack's perspective and the coaches just comes Jack knowing what he can get away with. While the fundamental ideas between position and rotation don't really change between the ranks, the details do. Both what you and your opponents are capable, as well as your ability to read and understand that change. When you can reposition faster and maker harder saves more consistently it's easier to be in more greedy positions. When you understand what is and isn't possible you can read the actual level of danger. This is where a lot of the discrepancies between the advice and Jacks opinions seems to be, not all but a lot of it.

[@drew1467]

Great perspective! Someone knowingly coaching a pro would give them advice related to their abilities, aggressiveness, and gameplay.

[@alanjukic6743]

the amount of information pros take into consideration in such a small time window in real time is beyond impressive

[@JG7tv]

Content GOAT, he doesn’t stop!!!

[@CallmeEno]

Hey JG

[@xal.3275]

Hey JG

[@viegodalencio]

Hey JG

[@jmanzano79]

Hey JG

[@carlynz]

GC tips: what I want to do Champ tips: what I think I'm doing Diamond tips: what I'm actually doing

[@kron719]

Sunless has the best Rocket league content. Legendary. Every video is so good.

[@purpleteriyaki]

There shit

[@HZS1]

@@purpleteriyaki why are you watching then?😂

[@MonoSelva123]

@@purpleteriyaki lmao you can't even speak English

[@jaalp9312]

@@MonoSelva123 facts he should've said they're

[@deeznutz9858]

What impresses me is that he is still coming up with new enjoyable ideas even though the game itself isn't really offering creators any right now

[@dom_deeroy]

At the end you should asked for a final guess of the players rank and then revealed the true rank to the coaches. Maybe even allow for a small chat between chat and the coaches at the end too

[@GRAYgauss]

Imagine being diamond and saying apparentlyjack is inconsistent at kickoffs. Great video, really love jack and the commentary he provided. Edit: Oof, jacks a diamond now too. - Was really hoping for a reveal. I appreciated the analysis, not enough of that, but damn...Really wanna see the diamond backpeddle.

[@HurricaNE6788]

Coach: Everyone at high levels knows how to speed kickoff. Me: Sitting in GC for the last 5 seasons and still cant do it.

[@anthonyjones4628]

U have to learn u will be bad at first but if u don't practice you won't ever be good

[@chmz8456]

@@anthonyjones4628 he’s in gc so he’s good

[@anthonyjones4628]

@@chmz8456 I am too that isn't the point I'm saying if u don't practice speedflips u won't be good at speedflips

[@Arteran]

Ikr. Im currently sitting in Champ 2 and slowly start figuring out how to do good kickoffs, like what the fuck was I doing the past 500 hours of gametime?!

[@vindicatelol]

@@chmz8456 if you're in gc you know it's very bad

[@CeeT_]

AppJack is my favourite rl youtuber right now. He's really entertaining and I've learnt so much from watching him

[@RhumpleOriginal]

Bro 2:20 I started doing this naturally without any coaching but the people I play with don't understand it. They think I'm trying to nab a touch and I'm just pushing pressure on the team to move the ball away from me. They have to split second guess how they think I'm going to act and that bump from them is what should give me tms a shot. It makes the other team give your team the ball. Just really awesome to see this recognized at such a high level.

[@jaalp9312]

Every time sunless uploads I am ready for my mind to be blown

[@purpleteriyaki]

Stop looking for likes

[@jaalp9312]

@@purpleteriyaki I'm just speaking facts

[@Zklo.zo8]

@@purpleteriyaki lmao

[@lucassparages9114]

@@purpleteriyaki lmao

[@wm_9640]

@@purpleteriyaki cranky boy needs attention

[@Exsulator2]

I like content that highlights the difference in what is "right" to do vs which RANK it's right to do it in. Instead of being "right answer & wrong answer" its more often specific to certain ranks. Sometimes, it even goes back and forth like one play is bad in mid-tier ranks, but can be good in both low ranks and high ranks.

[@mohammedisam9094]

It is incredible how smart and calculated Jack plays!

[@Arturopakastur]

Cats: meow Dogs: woof 9-year-olds: *FIRST FIRST*

[@Croptopolis]

That was nicer than anticipated. More like gentlemenJack.

[@Riddle.Realm.]

I think i learned the most of the non coach in this video. Jack is very well spoken and explains his thought process extremely clearlym

[@WyattCaldwell1204]

Now you should make real life soccer coaches coach rocket league players

[@vplay555]

That's actually a great video idea

[@Bweyg]

XD I would LOVE to see that, considering its my fav irl sport.

[@syndicategaming1668]

It’s so funny how diamond players always think anyone else is diamond at best

[@hamzaasif911]

Jack plays according to the high level pros rotation and what THEY can do. Basically pros are allowed to break the rules of rotation. This is just the lower ranks trying to make Jack play on that lower level.

[@AnArmyOfFish]

Lol this diamond coach gonna be surprised when he sees this

[@Idkbrosef]

VIDEO IDEA: Make a video where you are the ball, whenever you are in the air, you cant move so players can air dribble and try to freestyle, BUT when you are on the ground you can drive around and try to avoide the players.

[@BuzzaB77]

Being fresh out of diamond I understand the diamond perspective. You pick up the habit of always staying back because you a) don't trust anyone becuase no on eis consistant and b) you're just not experienced enough to read ahead of the play, not to mention the plays are all over the place, so getting too close at that level just usualy results in some 50/pinch/long clear flying over your head into your goal.

[@rlstreak105]

KZbin yet again with the double ads

[@huzaifaahmad2289]

The amount of insight and analysis jack gives is insane

[@Earthquaker20]

Sunless just loves exposing people who think they know everything by then revealing they clearly dont know more than apparentlyjack

[@saigesmart4167]

9:46 "Leaving immediately is probably the best mechanic I've seen out of this guy so far" Is your memory affected by your ego or something, like how did you forget 6:39

[@Earthquaker20]

Theyre judging his plays on their own ability. Jack can do insane things with his mechanics, they cannot. So they are giving advice based ok their knowledge of their own mechanics

[@Percules01]

That’s exactly what I was thinking. Their confidence isn’t going to be like his. Of course they won’t do certain things, they can’t lol

[@PantsofVance]

You have to coach to the players' skill level. If I am reviewing a game and I can tell he's high level and has upper tier mechanics I'm going to give him some slack because he can recover faster and adjust to difficult positions that those with lesser mechanics cannot.

[@DankoleClouds]

I liked the way Jack summed it up. You may think it's _wrong_ for me to go for boost over ball, but it's actually just a difference in our perspective.

[@makqz]

This just shows how little coaches actually know about different situations.

[@Serapter]

I mean like these coaches are usually not expecting to be watching a world champion player. Like because they think this is diamond they are looking more face value

[@Papacarrot]

I disagree. Just like he said, many of them just have a different perspective on the situation.

[@felixrinck4115]

its actually shocking how little they know about the game...as a coach i would think it is fairly easy to guess what rank it was, since youre watching replays basically all the time..so them guessing its high diamond is just absolutely dreadful observation. A plat that has never watched his own replays probably thinks this is high diamond because of his wrong view of playflow etc etc...but a coach? hell nah

[@ratedpending]

@@felixrinck4115 it was a coach in diamond we're not talking about virge here dude lol

[@hardoks1735]

@@osoriodav2 compared to other games diamond is a ridiculously low level in rocket league, you basically just have to hit the ball anywhere to get there, also gotta love the generalizing from op

[@nfltradesonig]

That ten minutes went fast asf. Def should make this a series

[@bigboiboris7137]

Yes!

[@thatguy4872]

Bring jack back for more vids. He just has such a chill vibe to him and its great.

[@kurtg1349]

he does youtube himself. you could watch him i watch all of jacks vids. if you dont already

[@Blakkid489]

This explains... so much.. on why plats and diamonds during 3s are never ready for a pass but instead are back at our goal....

[@slovnicurling9808]

4:19 it's so obvious he wanted to pinch it. Interesting not even the gc coach didn't get that. Maybe it's because we are trying with teammate pinches all the time and they don't even think about them when playing? Really surprised nobody got that. Btw why is diamond even coach? It's like when little kids play as doctor :D

[@dyzorted]

Didn't sunless just bet random players to coach?

[@holysecret2]

"To coach" doesn't necessarily mean that you are a coach by profession. Same as you can be personally asked to judge who is guilty without actually being a judge.

[@haze8230]

I don’t even like rocket league, but his style of editing and ideas for videos are just the highest tier.

[@Mystiquex3]

app jack needs some help. Thanks for helping him Sunless!

[@toomuchdriptbh5698]

Yeah he like high diamond max but he chose a terrible game from jack he cracked tho fr

[@leonardo76845]

I don’t like teammates following on kick off either, but that’s because in my rank, it usually ends with the teammates mistaking me for the ball so we both get launched into the opponents net

[@ner1849]

As someone who just hired a rocket league coach for the first time, its interesting hearing the different thought processes from the 3 ranks. My coach is GC2

[@quin3456]

Congrats on 2 mil!!

[@1nstantis642]

Video idea: can a plat beat 5 pros using freeplay's new "pass ball" control?

[@SalubriouzNL]

I would love to see the reactions of the coaches when they found out it was Jack haha.

[@zeca672]

Oh boy I wouldn't coach a pro, I would mess his gameplay lol

[@Bweyg]

Unless you are a pro XD.

[@therealpopsmoke2483]

you should’ve had a live session with a pro acting like he’s a plat with a champ or gc coach

[@SimplyTiffany2009]

Crazy how each rank you have to adapt and play differently, I’m gonna be stuck in plat for life 😩

[@octag8nn498]

Nah, everything is possible through Jesus Christ who strengthens you!

[@RIS3N1]

Nah you got this! Confidence is key my friend

[@nickaltman6306]

Nah not true at all.

[@idiatico]

This was wholesome jack is a good guy

[@omarr5838]

yes to the revealing whatever everyone else is saying but also make more of these kinds of videos and also jack is goated af and IQ af

[@Happy-cm7uo]

Jack = he said i should have gone for back boost? Jack = naaaaaaaaaaaahh XD

[@swtchtup2797]

Congrats on 2 million Sunless! I’ve been watching your video for a while, keep up the great work! :)

[@shmarpRL]

Congrats on 2 MILLION!!! 🎉🥳🥳

[@troy7910]

More like professional rocket league player coaches coaches

[@kimi3421]

This is extra interesting as Dignitas have chosen not to have a coach atm. Partly because Jack is so smart and is kinda doing it himself.

[@xer0895]

To be fair since Jack was in a pro lobby then his opponents are also making the same smart decisions, his "mistakes" aren't bad it was just that the opponents skill have lead up to a mistake happening on his part, i.e the mediocre save or when he got scored on in ot

[@equatiks97]

this sounds like a kid at 9 years old who argue back with there teachers because "actually no im right because"

[@matthewhammomd3842]

I really enjoy this counter-coaching type thing. The coach’s are saying stuff that most of us regular players are thinking and then Jack explains the flaw in the coach’s logic

[@deboikevin6278]

Congrats on 2 mil man really deserve it

[@quinnsmithy8778]

one of my favorite videos sunless, thank you! offers great perspective

[@Valpeer]

Alternate title: coaches coach a pro and the pro criticizes their coaching on himself.

[@FinBoyXD]

You should make this a series, this is really interesting. You get the disagreement of the coaches and the pros and their reasoning why something is better than the other. It's just a good idea. Just do the reveal at the end to top it off.

[@eliwright1056]

Feels like Christmas when this dude uploads

[@nndrww]

True lmao

[@CamDop]

Congrats on 2M!

[@lookoutbelow3278]

Congrats on 2mil sunless! This video was a banger❤️👍

[@Jason-lu5wr]

For anyone who wants to know, the intro song/beat is from Elin Sandberg - Dance It Off. :)

[@abba136]

Jack seems like a great dude.

[@KellyLChambers]

Dear, Jack. Ball before boost. You're welcome.

[@bigbettywhite]

i wish there was more pro content this detailed and calm in their replay review

[@razorinstiincz8314]

It is absolutely criminal that there’s a diamond trying to coach anyone😂😭

[@HeckYouEpically]

I love watching them judge this high-diamond level gameplay

[@noiJadisCailleach]

You mean, High-plat level gameplay.

[@HeckYouEpically]

@@noiJadisCailleach no

[@minigungameryt2525]

This happens in every rocket league game when your teammates say "You're trash".

[@snobey3229]

YOOO congratulations on 2 million

[@Connie_98]

Congrats on 2 million sunless keep up the phenomenal work 👏

[@prescottv]

I just wanna say like, I admire the way these videos are edited HEAVY bro. I love the editing style, it’s just so good

[@RealJKal]

Was super disappointed at the end of the video we didn’t get a reveal reaction with jack and the coaches

[@P0rt4L.]

SunlessKhan is the best at making original content when Psyonix can’t

[@mrstealyourviews4837]

Pretty disappointed, was hoping he’d reveal who he was at the end and to hear their reactions!

[@M4nh4TTN]

same here

[@swaythekid]

Yrs

[@spazeshadow9310]

Congrats to 2 million Sunless!

[@timlong4791]

Some things the coaches say are entirely valid if the person playing isn't world class. Like going for boost when you're at 0 is smart unless you've got the mechanics to do everything you have to without any.

[@redandsoulles132]

"This guy is probably high diamond"-a diamond

[@Jagentek]

I know a million comments already said it but this was a massive missed opportunity to not reveal Jack to the coaches at the end

[@itsabel2356]

so we finna talk about that dope edit at 0:35?

[@sportsshorts9607]

But we can all agree that sunlesskhan is better than rocket leauge itself