I Made the Ultimate MIND GAME Multiplayer Level - Good Samaritans in Super Mario Maker 2?

Decided to conduct a social experiment in Mario Maker 2. I wonder how this will turn out. Who will be the nice guy?
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[@lovepirate14]

It’s a cool design, but would just be softlock city in multiplayer lol. Immediately you would just have 2 players jump up in the same section and ruin it all.

[@axXxelp21]

Bobby B 👆🏻

[@SeriouslyTheDog]

But on the bright side if they show cooperation, at least 3 players can touch the flag

[@matperry18]

Dogfan 380 nope, can only be 2.

[@firexgodx980]

Obviously, but they'll just restart

[@matperry18]

@@firexgodx980 i'm facepalming myself

[@Mu_Lambda_Theta]

First section: Learn to be a good samaritan. Second section: Trust that you'll be rewarded if you're a good samaritan. Third section: What? Did you expect no trolls in this level?? lol

[@lukaslp77]

Third section: scams are everywhere

[@LuigixD]

Third section: Don't trust strangers

[@coyraig8332]

Third: Being "generous" is now the selfish thing to do

[@theapexsurvivor9538]

Third section: If you Know that being a good samaritan is the best option, then you should allow the other person to have that opportunity.

[@Dankboy8911]

The second section is garbage, even if the player was a good person, they are still stuck, so is not being a good person, is being a sacrifice

[@flackbyte]

Wait for timeout - the level

[@kyubeyz_7062]

Flack Byte yea

[@kwisowofer9872]

I will definitely make that as a level that is part of my horror series in which I have not completed making the first one. The series is in Mario Maker 2, so no, I am not a skillful programmer. I made a level where you can’t die. Proof I’m not smart.

[@TealLlama]

I like your channel pic. Invader Zim is one of my favorite cartoons

[@Metroyeti17]

These are great ideas but will literally never work in multiplayer

[@Infinite_03]

It's weird that he unabled starting over, because nobody will figure it out on their first attempt

[@TheDiscoMole]

agreed, people are gonna skip the shit out of this level, all clears are gonna involve the door at the start.

[@WuchtaArt]

This is an experiment, meaning it has many results. It will work no matter what the players will do.

[@WuchtaArt]

The video shown here presents one of the possibile scenarios, but there are more of them, showing players being selfish, greedy, not trusting one another and other stuff

[@karlboud88]

@@Infinite_03 you can disable "let's start over"?

[@pafnutiytheartist]

In the chaos of an actual multiplayer run this will be too confusing. Nobody will understand what's going on, softlock and skip. Cool idea though.

[@zorusion4888]

That’s just you idiot

[@mateorodriguez2300]

Bro everyone is just going to crowd into one of the one way platforms or multiple people will get stuck. There’s gonna be a lot of retries.

[@turtle5709]

Seems like a really fun level to play with friends, but not exactly viable for randoms in versus

[@ayhuz]

Just don’t tell them the twist

[@utopes]

Why would it not be viable? Seems like it’d be best with randoms if they aren’t paying attention to the level name

[@mac_bomber3521]

@@utopes idk, maybe because one of the randoms will press the on off button before everyone is ready, or more than 2 people will go in a same path or something, this can leads to so many softlocks

[@DeltaStorm27]

I think the biggest problem is the 500 second timer. If someone doesn't want to play along, everyone will have to wait for over 8 minutes.

[@JersenMapper]

The players could just give up.

[@DeltaStorm27]

@@JersenMapper If it times out, nobody loses points. If you give up, you take the full loss. Most players would rather just time out (at least in higher ranks) and play it safe.

[@user-yo6dt6vw2l]

@@DeltaStorm27 Personally, I think my life is more important then a few points. I'll always be willing to pay the price. Besides, I can get them back in future rounds, no big deal.

[@daridon2483]

@@user-yo6dt6vw2l Not everyone thinks like that. They will be willing to wait those 8 minutes just to avoid losing points

[@mahbubmaleksyed5301]

The biggest troll of them all

[@TheFinalChapters]

What will players do? They'll boo the level because it's pick a path.

[@Ghivcftyhhvvcfyyh]

Yea this level sucks

[@psiseven]

How is it pick a path?

[@TheFinalChapters]

@@psiseven Which dead end do you go into? Choose incorrectly, and you lose.

[@psiseven]

@@TheFinalChapters You can see what's down the path you choose, making it different from your typical "Choose one of four doors, three kill you" levels.

[@TheFinalChapters]

@@psiseven No, you can't. All of them are very visibly dead ends in both rooms. The visible "paths" are actually fake, and the real paths are hidden in the dead ends. It is entirely pick-a-path where you have to guess what the level creator was thinking.

[@horrisnorris6478]

To make it more obvious that everyone needs to go into a different compartment in the room, you could put a 10 coin in each one and make it a requirement to collect them all.

[@hamptonme5037]

HorrisNorris I know this is old but then he could not upload the level.

[@visualgagging]

He could upload the level if he puts the 10 coins in the single player section, the only section he can go through to clear the level

[@lifinale]

There’s a limit

[@JK17-1]

If he put a 30 coin at the start of the single player pipe it would be possible

[@kales901]

@@JK17-1 no, 30 coins dont affect how many 10 coins you get

[@kerbonaut2059]

Panga tries to get slaves into his world-conquering army, 2019, colorised.

[@Liveandlearn789]

*colorized

[@RaiseTheFloor]

thesatanic6 LMAO

[@yosh_eg_69]

Stupid person: but its already in color Me: r/woooosh

[@CherubiJubell]

Cheese potential! 1st room, 4th "bad" player jumps into area with another player.

[@melodywawichi802]

CherubiJubell but in that case, the 4th player isn’t being greedy by not heading towards the goal (assuming if he/she doesn’t know what being greedy would lead to...)

[@evo683]

Yeah, there can be 4 people in the second section i think

[@personwholikesobjectshows1769]

Or normal local play has cheese

[@karlsargant3985]

What if the 'bad' player was forced to be there while the actual evil player is still able to win

[@DannyBPlays]

This idea is brilliant but 2 issues: 1) People wouldn't immediately know that there's only suppose to be 1 player per section. So if 2 jump into 1 section, the entire thing is impossible. 2) When the greedy person gets locked out, they'll just exit the game, which in the end will give the ultimate winner far fewer points. So it's not a huge benefit for the non-greedy person aside from losing a bunch of points

[@dhu2056]

I don't remember that in the update

[@noahmay7708]

For the first one, players can all agree to start over with the knowledge they had gained before. Plus with the new update the timer also resets.

[@dullicecream]

For one, can't they just call agree to restart?

[@DeltaStorm27]

You don't earn less points if someone gives up

[@DannyBPlays]

@@dullicecream if they all agree to restart then they will all 4 know what the level is about and then all 4 will jump up into a space at the first room. It would end up being more chaotic since everyone would know the "greedy" path is the wrong way

[@ffarchduke]

This will never work unfortunately

[@Professor_Utonium_]

The average player is not smart enough for this lol

[@evo683]

Clear rate dictates what level you get in versus right? In that case this would likely appear in S or A rank more often

[@sotp8020]

@@evo683 the more big brain people

[@DDDloki]

@@sotp8020 sure, but it takes one smol brain person in the wrong place to softlock everyone It's just never going to work.

[@sotp8020]

@@DDDloki true. Sadly

[@virtualdash]

Mario Maker 2: A game about making levels in a platformer game Mario Maker 2 Builders: Make levels that show you if people would choose others lives over theirs

[@patrykbajgier6473]

Go play Geometry Dash, creators are creating traditional levels there, and the profile pic fits there.

[@luigiplayerone7749]

lol

[@repacharge431]

I think that the second room is a place for people to get baited for doing the right thing, because if they see the P switch they think that they are doing the right thing by waiting

[@karlboud88]

You know people are gonna screw up room 2 then restart so getting baited in room 1 won't matter either, if all players go up to the pows and no-one activates the p-switch it's gonna softlock em

[@jakehawthorn7920]

@@karlboud88 did you watch the video?

[@karlboud88]

@@jakehawthorn7920 Did you read my comment?

[@repacharge431]

I agree, I think the pswitch should also be on an incredible long (100 second) timer that the people in the overworld cant activate by the screen being too close to them

[@pedroff_1]

@@karlboud88 Didn't he say, in the video, that, even if player 3 doesn't activate the p-switch, a thwomp still does? (assuming you're referring to room 2's P

[@AvangionQ]

This level might be good for multiplayer coop ... in versus, it's just a mindfuck.

[@arealfakeidentity3355]

I love how luigi is still there when the level is completed luigi loses by doing nothing Edit: i removed my edit since it is cringe

[@thevictorhaha]

impossible, luigi could never lose while doing nothing

[@minionek247]

@@thevictorhaha what with time?

[@aviida280]

no... he lost because he moved... if he didnt moved he would win XD its simple math

[@mona3194]

If he did a reverse of this level Luigi would win by doing nothing

[@dragonfruitymmanuelngo4642]

Mona yeah but he doesnt have a ability to control time

[@TheNomRandom]

This ain’t it chief, in a multiplayer match this is going to breaks and you’re going to have to wait for timeout or hope everyone is willing to vote restart.

[@purpleh_123]

Plus 2 people can go in into the 2nd section in the 1st room

[@nezbitnezbit5397]

Please delete your pfp

[@pluigipng9061]

@@nezbitnezbit5397 i very much agree

[@soursylveon4784]

Honestly, I feel like one downside is in the second “bait” The person who goes for the second bait would likely already know from last time that they’re the most likely to get screwed over, so it’s actually punishing them for selflessness instead of greed

[@frog9675]

I wish you could watch replays of your levels from people, including multiplayer

[@personwholikesobjectshows1769]

Oml that works be halairious

[@DannyBPlays]

The setups should be a little more like when good MP versus levels are setup and they force every player to only be able to go into 1 section but also have to wait. It'd require a lot of modding since you'd need to reply on a P-switch and some special pipe entry setups but that'd be the best way to ensure that only 1 person goes into each area and that they don't trigger things too soon

[@boogbug8244]

It would be especially better for the second part since you can get softlocked if the 3rd (or 4th if no one fell for the bait in part 1) person goes into one of the pow paths with someone else

[@evo683]

Worst case scenario in VS you can vote restart

[@melodywawichi802]

Evo Worst case scenario v2 - not everyone will agree to restart.

[@davidpement]

But as a multiplayer versus level, wouldn't this essentially become Pick-a-Pipe? As broken as it is, the purpose of this level is that each person chooses to be either altruistic (and is rewarded) or selfish (and is punished). Forcing one player to watch the others win because they chose poorly at the beginning would be an awful experience.

[@KleinerKokiri]

that would literally ruin the basic idea of choice lol

[@Alexc99xd]

How about a level like the prisoner’s dilemma?

[@TheSquareOnes]

Might be tricky to build and even trickier to communicate to the players but that's not a bad idea. Could use it to dispense power ups as rewards and pair up players. If they both choose B they settle for a fire flower, if one player chooses A they get a star and the other player gets locked in the room with nothing for some extended period of time and if they both choose A they get nothing but are free to move into the level, or something along those lines.

[@smpiano6605]

That would be a fascinating thing to see! Thanks for the idea!

[@axXxelp21]

👎🏻

[@ayhuz]

@Axel Perez ???

[@butterbird55]

You know, I wish Nintendo would make it that only levels tagged with Multiplayer versus could be played in the versus mode, it would highly improve the quality of the levels.

[@teddyboy5932]

I agree, but I get so many levels that are tagged multiplayer versus but aren't really at all. I dont know why this tag is so popular. Also they should add a multiplayer co-op tag

[@pastamonster_7]

At the end: Luigi: HELP ME Mario and Toadette: No.

[@Gelfling66]

There's so many flaws with this level. The concept is great, but it only requires exactly everything to go right to complete. The first box has to be entered first, people can't go into the same terminal as someone else, going too fast locks everyone else out, and the biggest flaw of it all, someone HAS to be the fool and stay back. That is completely unacceptable. It should be an optional thing, because you've turned a moral delemma into a forced loss. Not cool. The idea needs refined, but it's a good start

[@aKoolAidMan]

Nice job hastily criticizing when you're straight up wrong. The first box doesn't have to be ENTERED first, just activated first. Even if that doesn't happen, the person who activated the first section too fast can figure out what to do after everyone votes to start over. Also, for the first screen, someone does NOT have to be the fool and stay around.

[@eragon78]

@@crunchy3188 A fix to that would be to have a P switch in a separate area with a 1 way gate (different than the pipe) that the person would have to go into. If they choose the pipe, they get stuck, but if they choose the P switch, they get to escape with the others.

[@airimee]

This cant work in multi-player unless they watched this video 1st...

[@matheustran8009]

Question, what's stopping two players from going into the same chamber?

[@AhsimNreiziev]

The impression that they wouldn't be able to get to the flagpole if they would enter one of the rooms.

[@matheustran8009]

Ahsim Nreiziev what if all four players watched this video already

[@Gone4Everx]

@@matheustran8009 Thats a retarded question

[@twoarrow9134]

@@Gone4Everx not really

[@Gone4Everx]

@@twoarrow9134 It is because if all four players already watched the video... what exactly is he expecting will happen? He knows the answer to his question which limited answers..

[@theoutcastleaf3410]

In room two, one of the players must get punished for trying to free the others. Even if all of them wanted to help one must get screwed over which isn't a great way to go about things.

[@zachb1706]

TheOutcastLeaf maybe a remake that includes a reward if the player hits that p switch, maybe the ability to win outright.

[@melodywawichi802]

Note where the P-Switch is located: closest to the pipe, and therefore closest to the goal (they’re not meant to know this isn’t the real path tho). In a way, you maybe helping others, but there’s also a potential ulterior motive where you chose the P-Switch route to be closest to the seemingly only way out (pipe).

[@Graph06]

Interesting idea, but without a way for players to restart after messing up, it will never be completed as intended. Unless all the players have seen this video, they'll have no clue what to do first time regardless of if they are a "good samaritan" or not

[@JunkExplorer]

This will never work, everyone just rushes in Multiplayer.

[@TeeBreak]

This dude is literally Jigsaw

[@sarmilaacharya318]

69

[@TheNutellarulz]

MM2: Saw Edition

[@Living_Legacy]

Hello Amanda, I would like to play a game.

[@Ic1clez_]

I'll just be that guy who hits the on off early and traps my teammates causing a soft lock. 👏😏

[@CardZed]

Salty lol

[@DDDloki]

@@CardZed wtf is salty about that? Are you being salty about him writing a comment that isn't salty And I am writing a salty comment, that comments about someone being salty while they're not

[@CardZed]

@@DDDloki tf is wrong with you

[@PretzonPretzel]

CardZ I don’t think you know what “Salty” means, but alright.

[@Decklanx]

The irony in this level is that if you know the level already, the good person is the one who gets softlocked

[@oacmd282]

Bad level design. It honestly become more of a “race to the rooms” instead of the original concept. Nobody is going to camp the bait door in second time because they know they won’t benefit, but face a giant softlock. Could’ve been a disadvantage in time rather than a softlock.

[@Alzter0]

There's no way every player would know to jump in a separate slot for the first test, it'd probably just be softlock hell

[@ryanwalsh5019]

This one’s probably going to get a lot of boos. People tend to boo levels that reward kindness in multiplayer because they are salty tryhards.

[@fattytan1377]

At least ONE person will get a softlock, due to the 2nd setup That's what actually gets it boos, imagine the 3rd(or 4th) player sees the p switch and decided to free the 2/3 people and still get softlocked? That person will 100% give a boo

[@ryanwalsh5019]

@@fattytan1377 yeah but my point still stands. Even if it didnt have a softlock people would boo it because they are salty

[@DDDloki]

@@ryanwalsh5019 ah yes, an overcomplicated versus level, that requires absolute cooperation in order to not get everyone softlocked ... It will totally get boos because of "salty" people...

[@majesthijmenii1976]

People will see the on/off switch in the first section and go there. I'd recommend placing that section all the way to the right so people have more time to look at the other sections. Because otherwise two people will rush into the on/off section and softlock everyone. This is important because that room is the room that locks all the other entrances.

[@Kyoobur9000]

8:09 HI I’M ETHAN BRADBURY

[@EterSky08]

Is it a joke i'm not getting ?

[@omnitrix1992]

This level is SLAMMING!!

[@miserygear3763]

With a tiddy out

[@Kyoobur9000]

@@EterSky08 Ethan Bradbury was one of two KZbinrs who ran a KZbin channel dedicated to showing off "social experiments" which really just amounted to bullying people and committing crimes. Ethan Bradbury always introduced himself in a video by saying "HI I'M ETHAN BRADBURY" extremely fast.

[@ness2949]

Couldn’t the 4th player go in with one of the three at the split path, messing up the whole process?

[@Etheiechief1620]

7:05 uhhhh... what are doing mario?

[@jamisoncrawford2265]

Ethie Shark what you doing step Mario

[@randompersonontheinternet473]

I got one of those levels and I won since I wanted to play even if I lost I love karma

[@d4mniel]

I really like the last past, because someone who understood the concept of the level would just hit the P-Switch, thinking he would be faster again, while someone who is actually nice doesn't care.

[@xhitman9923]

This level looks like a very complicated piece of hot garbage, no offense :p

[@sloppymonday1688]

Hero6 not sure what you mean by garbage is it because you don’t have the skill to do this and are jealous or what. Elaborate

[@xhitman9923]

@@sloppymonday1688 its a complicated pick a path, whose level design is based on soft locking your players.

[@raydaman1834]

This level shows of how much kind can pay off, great video! Keep it up, man!

[@ppyree]

I love your style and gameplay! Good luck with your SMM2 journey! ♥️

[@edge-of-the-internet]

Your videos have improved in quality, its a joy to watch everytime

[@connemignonne]

I'll be honest, if I got this level the first thing I'd do is jump up and hit the on/off without thinking and accidentally softlock it. You should've made some kind of mechanism to just detect whether all three players are there because this requires way too much careful thinking

[@DDDloki]

I can assure you, that one is simply impossible because you expect people to know what to do If I ever got that I would just boo it and move on.

[@ansel569]

as cool as these levels are in theory, and they really are interesting, there's some glaring issues with practicality. The biggest issue is that this level is not self explanatory, and neither is it easy to experiment. The real challenge of Mario Maker in my opinion is conveying to the player what you want them to do through level design. This level has the tech, but none of the vital design to direct or misdirect the player. It just isn't good level design, especially not for multiplayer where even the descriptions are hidden from the player (which imo is a problem with Mario Maker itself). None of the audience who saw this video would ever play this level, and there's no way the players will figure out what to do in a non frustrating and clunky way.

[@flvk.]

4:32 You should've added another non-breakable block to the right 1 block above the 1-way because a player can just go to the end of the 1-way and jump and see that it's a softlock.

[@TurkeyTueky]

Ok..... but what about a 4p where being a bad boy gets ya the win? Wait thats just multiplayer versus .-. Edit: Thats alot of likes, also why do people say "Edit:"...... EditEdit: Thats A Lot of likes, so..... is 296 possible? EditEditEdit: And it stopped, alright......

[@lukaslp77]

69 likes nice

[@AlexanderPrussak]

169 likes nice

[@SuperCaptainFail]

Shut the fuck up about likes

[@pablourosa1443]

This level made me think it would be a good idea to create a Saw cooperative themed room, every character in a corner helping with tools

[@barrylee2001]

Good concept. But from an experiment standpoint there are some issues like, how do you collect data on what people did when there is no way to do that in game. But even if you could collect the data it wouldnt be useful because there arent any actual deviations to make, that don't break the experiment. You've essentially made a test for decision making with no actual decisions. Also from a player standpoint its hard to not feel cheated by this level because the only way to get a positive outcome is to do the undesirable behavior. It's a loss for both the people who did what you didnt want and what you wanted. It would be pretty aggravating to get this level while only a few points away from s+ and most likely end up regressing. But yea

[@SimpleAmadeus]

Also, the only way provided to gather data: "Please record this level if you run into it", would require players to have seen this video, which completely contaminates the "experiment". Unless they happened to record it by chance and discover this video later.

[@rosierodriguez2345]

Ceave gaming is the answer

[@barrylee2001]

@@rosierodriguez2345 ceave does make very good content but that doesn't help this experiment improve or become reliable. we aren't looking for an alternative to this content, simply pointing out the various flaws in its methods that keep it from being as scientific as is claimed.

[@rosierodriguez2345]

Lol it was a joke [r/wOoOSh ThANKs For ThE GoLd KiNd StRaNGER]

[@ebgurif]

Who else thinks the word ‘section’ is meaningless after 2:13

[@noe9250]

really great idea, I’d love to see some play throughs of this level! as a side note, I think very few attempts will finish in completion and I’d love to see more levels that encourage this type of cooperation, or punish selfishness. I think for cooperation to work, it has to be really really simple. Especially in the first instance where it is expected. If I had a copy of mario maker I’d love to have a go at making something like this.

[@DoritoTime]

Why does the blue blocks by the reset door have to be there if the reset door is in the air? Without them, there would be no blue block softlock

[@luanlee1355]

Another downside : The 4th player can enter one of the sections if they know the level already

[@EEYM]

Course Creators: builds courses meant for multiplayer Nintendo: Here’s some 1-1 for everyone to compete in

[@nitricacid2516]

Moral of the story: Nice guys finish last, smart people finish first

[@FelipeKana1]

The door was already one way. No need for the blue blocks down below

[@kyubeyz_7062]

Small overlook: they can just do nothing.

[@FrancisEctomorphe]

The ice level with the p switch is total genius btw

[@cassius_eu5970]

This is a fantastic level idea

[@Pikachujc]

levels that require prescience to begin are not multiplayer levels enable starting over or it's an instaskip because 99% of matchmade parties won't have all 4 people realizing they HAVE to pick a pipe in unison before someone hits that on/off block

[@callmezeldaonemoartime]

I don't think you realize how mean this is oh my God

[@BaronSterling]

Feels like that final P switch sort of ruins the entire point of the level. It's incredibly obvious it isn't a bait, and just turns it into the exact kind of "waiting for someone else to do the work for you" stuff this level was made to avoid.

[@GretgorPooper]

The only problem with this level is that, as soon as the three players that go into the upper sections realize they're "stuck", they might just refuse to do the thing they have to do because they don't want the bottom player to win.

[@irons880]

In first part of the level 2 players can enter any section, which means that all 4 player can go to the next part of the level

[@opachkii]

6:35 Everyone: having fun Luigi: *am I a joke to you*

[@greendesigner]

2 issues one I have seen commented. 1. 2 people can fit in some of the slots, ether cheesing or breaking the level. 2. Jumping into a falling bulletin blaster nudges it slightly.

[@TheNagibator28]

Also people can go at the same path so there will be no "bottom pathers"

[@davidsonsimeus3298]

I swear Pangaea Panga is the modern day Jigsaw killer.

[@TheL0rd0fSpace]

Why have the 3 on/off blocks after the first green door, anyway? It just introduces the possibility of a soft lock, since you could trap too many players in there. You've already made the door one way by having it off the ground; so putting those blocks there doesn't seem to add anything.

[@kurstone8511]

Panga himself would boo this troll of a level if it was him playing

[@Sweet-z8m]

won't the good Samaritan at a point just be the person who lets the others go into the setup

[@tjackknife6590]

Here's a level idea: An escape room where two players are in different sub worlds and must physically communicate with each other to get through it by using clues in the first sub world for the other person to solve a puzzle in the second sub world and vice versa. Perhaps there's a way to have the player separation mechanism do the same thing when there's one player or more than two players to ensure that there's no four player cheese

[@lias_irj]

Poor Sam at the beginning😂

[@IamBHM]

I think the pipe in the second section should be real. It could lead to a tiny shaft, with a coin (that would block players from exiting it if the earlier p-switch had recently been hit), followed by a short drop onto a p-switch beneath which is a spike. So basically a death-trap that causes a p-switch to be hit, but which you can see, but get kicked back through the pipe out of if you hit the earlier p-switch first. Combine this with a reward for hitting the p-switch that allows the third player to join the first two on the correct path (I noticed the floor underneath the one-way looked destructible). Maybe also add shafts to the upper areas of the second section that would allow two players, if they decide to both go into the same upper area, to bounce one on the other's head and hit another p-switch (but only after both POWs have been hit?). I also want any player stuck in the bait path of the first area to die once any other players are able to reach the flagpole. (I was sad that that Bullet Bill didn't kill Mario.) It would only add insult to injury without actually making their situation any worse, but it would be funny.

[@Horse_Puncher]

First video i watched with my new headphones!

[@DkYr]

This is more like Cooperative mode, because in Multiplayer Versus it will never work as people either will never do anything and give up or just pick other people up and keep throwing them

[@thejuic3b0i64]

Imagine dying on the *singleplayer* path

[@boooooomie]

I get a very "Saw" like feeling from this level.

[@martmine4618]

Many comments talk about it already but yeah this would be a NIGHTMARE in versus, you can already see 3 people jumping in the first mechanism and soft locking everything

[@The_Jho]

The person who goes to the pipe could technically be a good samaritan if they’ve seen this, because to my knowledge you have to sacrifice yourself to move forwards

[@thekaizobro9971]

What happens if just one person decides to restart? Would the level detect that there’s now one person at the start and allow him to go thru the pipe and win?

[@supersto5459]

Imagine if he made a clone of the level but your rewarded for playing dirty

[@rhymetimeguy7560]

The new Saw movie is looking great!

[@chillaxbro107]

The first time a social experiment on KZbin is actually a social experiment

[@n0siiide]

So it's basically a more colourful saw trap

[@SimpleAmadeus]

Not only is it very easy for a person to ruin everything by hitting the on-off block too early, it is also easy to ruin everything by having players jump into the same room together. Since multiplayer versus is a race mode, it is very likely for people to rush into the room with the only possible action, putting everyone in a softlock. Even if they take the time to figure out that rushing into a room isn't the way to go, this is still far too likely to end in a softlock since players will tend to wait for others to jump into the rooms first, which gives the left room player plenty of time to hit the switch too early. Additionally, since the level is seemingly set up to punish the good samaritan, the on-off room player has a high incentive to hit the switch early and screw everyone up so they don't get the victory either. This level design needs a lot of work.

[@originpower151]

You should try to make a PvP focus type lvl

[@user-yo6dt6vw2l]

Now, I'm a ruthless player in versus, but that bait just felt mean. Sure, bottom choice was a stupid decision, obviously being wrong, but it hurts my soul.

[@minghanmingyen6567]

There is another downside, that is everyone actually can get the flag if they look closely in the first 2 section, because there is a one block between the player in the first room second chamber but perhaps work if they're quick, the second room first chamber has a two block between the player, this second room can make everyone reach the flagpole. I think that is the way everyone reach the flagpole

[@derekliu793]

I think that when entering the bottom the second time, toad hitting the p-switch should also have a path leading back to the left because it shows hes being nice (e.g. some of the breakable blocks are bricks insetad)

[@stinky_dookie]

I got this level in Multiplayer Versus and immediately got softlocked and no one wanted to restart or understood what was happening. So while I was waiting to restart they were jumping around trying to figure out what to do. So it timed out. It’s a great level concept it just doesn’t work with the types of players in VS.

[@Danyko33]

I would've placed the one-way door after the question block, so that if the player is a good samaritan and frees his partners, he doesn't get punished, but if he goes to the pipe without freeing them, then he is trapped and triggers the thwomp that frees the other two players. Because the way you show punishes the blue toad weather he frees his partners or he doesn't.

[@TealLlama]

Wait, a NICE PANGA LEVEL, what have your done with the real Panga

[@JayHx]

Just me who realized that 2 players can go into the area with the on/off block meaning 4 players can pass through the first area then 2 players in each part in the second area so all 4 can make the flag