I miss the old Assassin's Creed

[@jayveeeee]

The old Assassin's Creed just hits different... P.S. my channel used to be JV2017gameplay - Fallout tips and tricks stuff. I changed my name, but it's still me! Thanks for watching!

[@bigmcdick4916]

jayvee I was wondering like who tf is this dude and I don’t remember subscring to him lmao

[@jayveeeee]

Big McDick haha I’ve been getting that a lot since the switch

[@korvo3427]

@@bigmcdick4916 He made Fallout videos back in the day and has changed his style many times since then.

[@onepunchbee]

jayvee I agree with you. What would you want in the next assassin‘s creed?

[@mjbroz0102]

Why they going this far into the past?? I miss og assassins creed fuck... at least make one some time after origins... what’s the point of making an origin and then goin back to when the creed wasn’t even established?🙄👌🏼 Shi what happened to Ubisoft Montreal.. they had somethin real... you right tho, jus something about being an actual hooded assassin in a urban city hits... learning about the ancient civ in a older civilization of its own.. the parkour system was best even then

[@GianlucaSorrentinoVideos]

The series peaked for me back when Ezio met Altair in his library

[@Agito4774]

Gianluca Sorrentino same

[@smitty02345]

Hell yeah, it was phenomenal to see it come full circle

[@jakethefinn2353]

My peak was when Ezio talked to Desmond

[@sng3939]

After that I felt empty.

[@Jujiro_Hanma]

K

[@persianhotshot]

Back when Assassn's Creed was actually about Assassins and had a story.

[@merearihipipi-takoko5867]

The story continued. In origins .

[@Syndixal]

Origins was good odyssey was ass 🥱

[@Ronin-kk4bt]

Exactly and this is why I can’t play odyssey

[@dhiachouket9308]

odyssey was the worst ac game shut story shit prokour shit fighting so unreal

[@rubenlopezusa]

Actually I understand the story better after having played Odyssey and Origins. The first one explains the connection with the Izu and their relationship with humankind, the second explains how the Creed is created. For me Bayek is descendant from Cassandra, when she sends her son to Egypt, to descend herself to Hell (Hades) and raise to Heaven (Atlantis) to find the answers. It helped me to understand why these artifacts are so important for Abstergo and the Order, and the immense power they hold. For me the best about Odyssey, besides graphics, etc, is the option to make your own choices; actions and dialogue have consequences, rather than only one storyline.

[@andymcadams3460]

Federico: "It is a good life we lead, brother." Ezio: "The best. May it never change." Federico: "And may it never change us." Ah, good old days.. bring tears to my eyes, every time.

[@tyreesespeeces_2266]

Such an iconic game

[@hellriderkhan]

oh the memories

[@Lionkingview]

Unpopular opinion: I always thought that piece of dialogue was corny.

[@mat7083]

@@Lionkingview Perhaps, but it's fun to quote

[@Lionkingview]

@Grandmaster maybe but to me it sounded more like : "Would be a shame if I or someone else in the family would die (wink)

[@jellybutterpeanut1]

AC used to be so cool, the conspiracy theory secret society plots spanning generations, the diverse fascinating histories across cultures, the depth, the philosophy and not to mention the crazy historically interwoven assasinations. Man, those were the days. It was an instant classic for the kid I was.

[@silvasilva6080]

YES!

[@jpebrz]

Those puzzles you had to find using the eagle vision were amazing aswell

[@Hollow8291]

now it is just all out war which is not AC

[@no_opinion1065]

Now it's: Dark souls combat AAA rpg style resources

[@Strawhalo]

The conspiracy theory spanning generations is real. Loom athe the covid 19 vaccine mandates

[@retro__791]

The hood The hidden blade The Assassin factor The stealth vibe Just give me those back

[@derth9230]

@@kolouk9979 especially the phaking parkour and combat mechanics

[@J.Gordo69]

Oh nah! I stopped playing after ac3. Now I know that they basically stripped the building grounds of the game is just awful

[@333333333797]

The combat..

[@chromebook315]

Counter kills? I mean the ac brotherhood and revelations one in which you can execute more enemies after the counter kill

[@ezioassassain]

u cant forget about the city imagine we have a new assassins creed with 3 different full sized city maps available to explore

[@h.i.x.2354]

Assassin's Creed 1 is severely underappreciated imo.

[@jayveeeee]

Yessss thank you 🙏

[@cookiemonster1787]

im sure i just never got to play it. but i played Ezio collection

[@ramonvandenboom93]

I played is trough last week it never gets old love ac1

[@bobzabawski6352]

I liked the story of AC1 but the missions were way to repetitive imo.

[@ManLikeEddy]

because its so fucking boriiiiinnnggg that's whyyyyyy

[@GalahadTheSeeker]

This might sound weird but I think the departure of Jesper Kyd and his style of music also has an impact on the old AC feeling being lost. His music added so much to the games it's unreal.

[@AJamal-yj6nl]

Ezio's family was the peak of assassin creed soundtrack

[@AnandT2000]

@@AJamal-yj6nl And the fact that they always try to recreate the Ezio's Family theme in some way is always telling of hanging onto what made the series so good.

[@darksavior1187]

It might not be the whole story, but I could see Jesper Kyd's involvement being a part of it, I mean the last time Hitman games were great was also when Jesper was involved as well, so there might be something to your theory.

[@SonGokuuuuuuu]

Well, Jesper Kyd is now back on Valhalla LOL

[@bounce2urchest350]

he's gonna be one of the composers for valhalla so all of our wishes will be answered!

[@andymcadams3460]

"I have lived my life as best I could, not knowing its purpose, but drawn forward like a moth to a distant moon; and here at last, I discover a strange truth. That I am only a conduit, for a message that eludes my understanding." Ezio Auditore da Firenze on his role as "the Prophet", 1512.

[@doughlausprashaal7151]

The line held soo much meaning He became humbled He realised that the World the brotherhood is something bigger than him and the he cannot take everything to his hands which is why when he sees the artifact Altair library he says I've seen enough of one Throught his journey in revelations her wishes to seek knowledge and to know why he's an assassin what is his purpose being an assassin By the end of his journey in revelations he accepts that the Assassin's and Templars is something bigger than him and that he's only a small piece in a large Puzzle and he's willing to accept that he Dosent need to know what puzzle is he inside

[@MathisR412]

One of my favorite Ezio moments

[@nielslehnen6076]

Why do people miss the bad looking 15 hour long easy af too much dialog little customisation small ass map Assassin Creed??

[@hogridaaaaaa4579]

@@nielslehnen6076 Bc we have better taste in games. And we don't comment the same thing multiple times.

[@liketobecalled]

@@nielslehnen6076 Because it has identity, it is well made, has an interesting story, character development and world building, you probably have never played an AC game before black flag in your life that is probably why you don't get it, those were a work of art, today is just another random RPG game

[@wesleyyisme2586]

Now it’s all about warriors. I don’t want heavy fighting, I want the absolutely ludicrous amount of smooth af kill animations from Black Flag

[@badass6300]

Rogue is a better Black Flag, so if you liked BF, go for Rogue.

[@jaughnekow]

Exactly 😂

[@simoneidson21]

Stealth is still an option

[@nenadmilovanovic5271]

@@simoneidson21 it is slow and there is no flow to it. Compare Valhalla to Unity and see for yourself

[@nenadmilovanovic5271]

Ac3 had more kill animations than ac4

[@jordyjohn2275]

When Ezio addresses Desmond after 6-7 real years growing up playing as him, it was so monumental and impactful I really cant see how a game could ever hit me that hard again

[@kingtaylor201]

It was only 3 years wtf

[@bobbyknight8535]

I miss the brotherhood. I miss building up the assassin's, recruiting, training. Ac brotherhood and ac revelations had the most immersive world building

[@jasonashley9853]

@Brandon Howard I don't feel that way at all about Brotherhood. Between narrative, soundtrack, and game play it was one of the best of the original games.

[@yungdaggervick6789]

The nostalgia mannn

[@teleportingpotatoe]

Should I get Syndicate or Rogue? Or odyssy?!?!?

[@teleportingpotatoe]

Or should I get Unity which seems like the best one

[@sonofliberty8872]

@@teleportingpotatoe Syndicate is cool but not as cool as Unity, which is probably the best out of your options. Rogue is a little side game that’s actually a connector between the games. Odyssey is a fantasy RPG with the Assassin’s Creed name slapped on so people buy it.

[@Stealth_LIEOS]

*Patrice Desilets (Assassin's Creed Creator), stated:* Desmond was to appear in six games. In the 5th games, Desmond have mastered the ability to look back in time of his DNA however he will it without relying on the Animus (like Subject 16 but mastered the bleeding effects), Desmond can travel back in time on how to stop the end of the world tracking the clues left behind by "the one who came before". Throughout 5th game, Desmond sees the neccessity of having a Templar along side the Assassins. Having "free will" to give people the freedom they wanted, and having "control" to maintain the world from hurting others. The Templar and Assassins both witnessed Desmond's beliefs, commitment, ability and skills which made them believe: Desmond, is the new world order. In the 6th game, Desmond managed to united the Assassins and Templar to save the world. Although, there are minor group of Templar (loyal to the old Templar order) believe in the death of many to rule the new world order and against Desmond. These minor group of Templar is following someone's teaching of "those who came before" but not sure who, possibly Juno. They (the united Assassins and Templar) declaire Desmond as a Grand Master of both party. They defeated the loyalist and stopped the armageddon. After the 6th game, the rest of the series are just suppose to be about tieing up loose ends like: Assassin's Creed 4: Black Flag, Rogue, Unity, etc., are just a side plots.

[@jayveeeee]

While I was working on this vid I thought about looking into Patrice Desilets. This is super interesting! Will have to look into more, thanks for sharing!

[@ocoDOT]

Oh my. I've never heard of this before. That sounds like it could've been a great story! I wish we got that, it was a really bad decision to abandon it... Why did they?

[@nielslehnen6076]

Why do you miss the bad looking 15 hour long easy af too much dialog little customisation small ass map Assassin Creed??

[@Stealth_LIEOS]

@@ocoDOT because back in 2013,Ubisoft have declaired: they do no care of the story, anymore. And always, because of greed. Now, its Assassin's GREED.

[@paulmayson3129]

@@Stealth_LIEOS More like UBISOFT'S GREED.

[@cap3423]

They really shouldn’t have killed off desmond it definitely feels like they had no idea what they wanted to do present day wise after him

[@jayveeeee]

Even though I said I have no attachment to Desmond, they kinda screwed it up after him. I wish they didn’t too :(

[@paulmayson3129]

PersonalΙy, while I really liked Desmond, I believe that his death in AC3 suited him, as being heroically self-sacrificed to save Humanity from the Second Disaster, and giving Humans the chance to stop Juno, despite her awful intentions to return and restore the First Civilization as they were, as masters of Earth, while her being a complete dominant of the planet

[@TheTylerman94]

Paul Mayson they killed off Juno :/

[@paulmayson3129]

@@TheTylerman94 Yes, it was so stupid. It is like making the Avengers with the superheroes knowing at the end about Thanos, yet never making movies like the Infinity War and Endgame, but instead resolve this plot in a comic, and then do something completely different from the previous MCU, like X-Men.

[@mozartcastellanosGK]

Then you'll probably like the original vision for Assassin's Creed 3, Desmond will go on learning from various generations of Assassins and find the other temples in time to prevent 2012 apocaplyse, finally he will takes down Abstergo

[@TheBuddhaBear]

God I miss the social stealth. Blending with crowds, benches, etc. Moving to your target undetected that way was always a pleasure

[@tobblesmash6193]

Assassins creed fans: we want an assassins creed game ubisoft: DID YOU MEAN VIKINGS?

[@trillboosted5916]

😭😭

[@magicman3163]

Honestly they should have Conner and Arno end Shays American Templar order

[@tobblesmash6193]

@@magicman3163 Connor did end the american templar order, and by the time Arno grew up Shay would've prolly died of old age

[@magicman3163]

@@tobblesmash6193 Shay would probably be 60-70 but I think it would be cool if he returned

[@frankuraku5622]

Old AC Fans: Just give us a OG AC DLC vibe in the new DLC Ubisoft: Oopsie, we accidentally shredded our paper. Did we hear superpowers and gods?

[@chickendrawsdogs3343]

You could say that the moment Ezio reached out to Desmond without knowing the means of how it could be accomplished was a "leap of faith".

[@ziwuri]

Modern games be like: Why express clashes of ideologies with an actual leap of faith when you're a demigod and can just yeet yourself off a cliff and not even lose health

[@nicostum2341]

Just "oh no there's a canyon... YEET"

[@philipschrute8487]

Omg dude 😢

[@polyroach2281]

"When I was a young man, I had liberty, but I did not see it."

[@MCUHQ]

sensei meat “I had time and did not know it”

[@onyx_vii7808]

"And I had love, but did not feel it."

[@nothingtoseehere2]

@@onyx_vii7808 and i had feelings cyan sus

[@andrewe.8321]

The whole story really went off the rails after Desmond died imo. There’s no overarching story anymore. It’s not that Desmond was this awesome character, but he gave us a connection to the modern day. It felt like every installment propelled the story forward.

[@scottmemelord6130]

Honestly the original plan the original writer gave before Ubisoft fired him sounded so much cooler than what we got. There was none of him dying or that stupid sun apocalypse nonsense. (EDIT: Okay maybe there was, it just mentions some non-descript apocalypse apparently that both parties were supposed to team up to stop. lol.) Instead, Desmond was meant to master the bleeding effect and basically become the ultimate assassin. Presumably then he was going to rebuild the modern assassin order and presumably defeat the Templars in some way or severely weaken them. Would've been so much cooler than him just frying his arm and dropping dead and then essentially being forgotten. People thought the modern day story was bad before, without Desmond I was so utterly disinterested in what was going on it was painful every time I got pulled out of the animus. Like you said, Desmond wasn't this super amazing character but he was way better and more interesting than people gave him credit for. Not to mention he WAS the main character more or less, like it or not and it's not surprising the series got really lost after removing him. You can't just remove the protagonist and expect the story to carry on. EDIT: Read another comment on this video apparently it was supposed to turn into this Marvel tier plot where both sides teamed up to save the world and declared Desmond their leader? I think I liked my idea better tbh. lol

[@andrewe.8321]

@@scottmemelord6130 exactly. He was the glue that linked each installment together. It made the series flow, and linked the goings on in the animus (the past) to the goings on in the present. Once that was gone, things just felt random and shallow. You start asking, “what’s the point?”

[@scottmemelord6130]

@@andrewe.8321 Exactly.

[@uhhhhhdellie]

The Ezio Trilogy changed my life in way I can't even begin to describe

[@Kaylum_Birrell]

Assassin's creed lost its spark when Desmond was killed.

[@88Somi]

@Kane the bounty hunter black flag very good pirate game, bad Assassin's Creed game

[@marvelfuturefight7503]

Mordern day story went to shit after AC iii

[@reybadagong7637]

Ac unity should have been the revival but bad launch gave it bad rep but now its gameplay is so assassiny

[@frostsoul4199]

eh AC4 was still good though

[@behshadzakeri2022]

The reason is Desmond ancestors were assassins the new characters are not Desmond ancestors

[@XxHUNT3RN4T0RxX]

I’m gonna be honest, I’m not really excited for AC: Valhalla but I know a lot of people are. When I watched the trailers for it nothing feels Assassin’s Creed to me and I felt this way about Odyssey too. The only game to have come out in recent years that was actually Assassin’s Creed to me was Origins. Bayek was the best protagonist we’ve had since Edward Kenway and telling the story of how the assassin brotherhood all started was also awesome.

[@intermediateshredder366]

100 % agree with u bar black flag. I got Odyssey but I didn't even complete it because it just didn't feel like Assassins Creed it just felt like an Ancient Greek RPG.

[@reecerife7839]

I mean Edward Kenway is a good character, but he isn't as good as everyone states he is. I think it's because I really don't like Black Flag to begin with.

[@njux1871]

Since Edward? Since Shay. Shay was much more interesting. Besides, the Frye Twins were amazing, they just happened to be in a boring-ass story. Lol.

[@reecerife7839]

@@njux1871 Shay was pretty good. Also, Arno as well. He's pretty underrated since Unity was a Bug Fest. Both are really amazing, underrated games that deserve more attention than what they have. I don't know about Syndicate, but I've heard good things.

[@njux1871]

@@reecerife7839 You're right. Unity didn't have a killer story, but as a portrait of Paris during the revolution, it was and is absolutely stunning. And some sequences were amazing, such as the breaking out one. Syndicate got London so, so right as well, and the Frye twins are AMAZING. It's refreshing to have two witty, not that troubled main characters. However, the story was the most replacable I have ever seen in AC. The soundtrack was on point, the city beautiful, the characters fun - but the story is just boring. But you can still feel the passion for historical details... unlike in Odyssey.

[@LazerzZ]

I don't think I've ever seen a video that voices how I feel so well, that's not by myself... It's a very odd feeling hearing someone speak words that I've felt for years, I never thought anyone outside of my circle felt this way. Thanks for this! Edit: Got to the part where "odyssey is genuinely a good game" and I may have vomited in my mouth and then onto my desk. I'm writing this comment from the infirmary where the doctors are currently certain I will die in the next 3 days due to internal bleeding. So thanks for that one.

[@takeurpills6024]

Hi lazer

[@emilyanderson6123]

Odyssey developers: yeah let’s have a bunch of pointless filler quests and 100 hits to actually kill somebody this is a good idea. Also remember assassins? Nope neither do we let’s scrap them. But we’ll keep the Leap of Faith because we love half assed commitment.

[@EmpireZzzz]

Yo

[@Lima7210the1st]

Oh wow, hello Elva’s boyfriend

[@tandy9631]

Odyssey broke me

[@Hououin_Kyoma]

When I played Assassins Creed 1 for the first time, it felt truly next gen to me. The graphics, the mechanics, everything.

[@tyrel5150]

In its inception it was almost a “next gen Prince of Persia” following Ubisofts trilogy on the previous generation.

[@Bruhtatochip742]

2007 was an innovative time for games. You had this, Bioshock, Portal, Team Fortress 2.

[@quiet_owo]

Man revelations was the closure both Altair and Ezio deserved... what a great saga...

[@onkelirohsjasmintee5613]

I get depressed when I think about the good times with ac or when I hear the old themes.

[@The_Sharktocrab]

Those old themes really take you back

[@jayveeeee]

yesss the old themes were so damn good

[@paulmayson3129]

So do I. I cannot help from not thinking about how great AC could have been if they continued with a new modern day character to battle Juno and try to prevent her return as a messiah. How it should have been a female character as Eve, with Desmond being Adam, who would find Eve in the Animus as commanded to Desmond by Clay Kaczmarek, and with the other Assassin Cells try to prevent Abstergo's Project Phoenix, restore the Assassin order with the help of the Initiates who would fill their ranks, fight against a new plot of Abstergo for total domination (complete surveillance, biochips in every person etc.). I really do believe that AC4 should still exist as it was but with a bit better Modern Day. For example, the Abstergo Employ to have an identity and to play him as third person, and to be an Assassin Informant planted into Abstergo Entertainment to discover Abstero/Templar Secrets, and the realization that Juno's digital consciousness has really been set free and is lurking the digital world. Or even better an Erudito Agent. And AC4 should serve as a link between Desmond's Saga and Juno's Saga. But just imagine how amazing it would have been if AC Rogue was released with a better story in 2015, instead of 2014, continuing the storyline of the Abstergo Employ/Assassin Informant, leading us to the information of the Project Phoenix and how Abstergo Industries have been compromised by the Instruments of the First Will, who would bring back Juno in a new body and present her as a ressurected messiah, and then bring rebirth of the Precursors with their ancient DNA from the Blood Vials (like those of the Observatry), while also genetically enhancing Humans to become like the Ancients as well, giving birth to a new human race. So basically it would be a issue of Transhumanism, while also of Slavery, which would be the fate of the unmodified Humans. Then the Abstergo Employ/Assassin Informant would discover that Project Phoenix is being developed in the Abstergo Facilities and European Headquarters in Paris, leading into the next AC game, Assassin's Creed 5 (AC Unity).

[@paulmayson3129]

@Tristen Parker AC Revaluations? A finance Assassin? You obviously mean Revelations

[@wavy9434]

Ong, Assassin Creed was my childhood. One of the first AAA titles I ever played. The new ones are alright I guess, but don't hit me in the same way.

[@The_Sharktocrab]

My roommate has been playing ac1 recently and I totally agree, I miss the old games. Also I like your new content style, good stuff bro

[@cat11112222]

Hell no ac1 is ass exept gir the bosses of each area where it felt like regular assassins creed. 2 brotherhood and revaluation is way better

[@jayveeeee]

Thanks man glad you liked it! AC1 is a gem, had so much fun replaying for this vid. Altair reminds me a lot of Connor, definitely more serious and introspective compared to Ezio.

[@The_Sharktocrab]

@@jayveeeee interesting observation, you make a good point

[@The_Sharktocrab]

@@cat11112222 yeah, no ones disagreeing with you. You dont have to be so obnoxious about your opinion that everyone else has

[@nielslehnen6076]

Why do you miss the bad looking 15 hour long easy af too much dialog little customisation small ass map Assassin Creed??

[@TheEternalOuroboros]

The first AC had one of the best stories of the franchise and with an amazing setting. Altaïr is a complete badass.

[@Khormologia]

I wish they Remaster/Rework the 1st AC (Altair) with Modern Graphics and Modern Mechanics

[@JackdawYT]

I feel like the franchise changed for me when Desmond was killed and Assassin's Creed 3 took the games into a different direction. It's not a complaint, because I loved Blag Flag, and the following games after were good. But overall, that Assassin's Creed feeling was lost imo. Awesome video JV! Always loved your content man!

[@jayveeeee]

That’s it man! I had a different idea of what this video was going to be until it turned into this. I tried to explain what you’re describing... I still might tackle that in a future video. It’s like they went from sci-fi to historical fiction to historical fantasy. Thanks for the love man I appreciate you!! 💙

[@abhishekdas2352]

Hey, Jackdaw like you I am also a Bioware fan. Please upload a video about the latest updates on Dragon Age and Mass Effect

[@lewisabraham4359]

That's spot on . The new games arent bad at all but the feels are different

[@DeathSlasher1]

@jayvee sci-fi to historical fiction to historical fantasy > i agree , but the game mechanics and story had to evolve to explore to different time periods and also the same 20hrs main camapaign adventure started to get boring (AC unity was example) , how many games will you play with the same parkour jumping on rooftops and assassinating its been 10yrs , RPG elements changed the franchise for good i believe else it wouldnt have "successfully" survived this long.

[@zandermanfour]

Exactly. The dev’s decision to kill Desmond felt like the end of the franchise. They shouldn’t have made his life so final and should have given the next game a chance to pick up the pieces. It became less grounded and I wasn’t as emotionally engaged, like when they killed Lucy I was shocked. I agree, I love the later games, but my amazement is in the gameplay, not the storyline.

[@jehugonzalez5331]

I love Desmond because he was so relatable. Yet it seemed like everyone hated him because he wasn’t “larger than life” like every other video game character.

[@kbg12ila]

I think the only issue with Desmond was that more time was needed to give him a character. AC3 tried this by mirroring him and his father's relationship with Connors and Haythams and that wasn't a bad idea. Could've been executed better in the earlier games though. Giving him a stronger purpose with the characters in the games.

[@badass6300]

no I just didn't enjoy the overscripted moments with him that took way too long, the story was great and he was a realistic, relatable character, thrown in an extraordenary situation. They should have made existing the virtrual reality machine(I forgot its name) more fun to play.

[@nathanielandre2568]

Eyyy wassa matta you?

[@drozmanu1719]

Everyone that hated Desmond is his dad that uses other acounts

[@oogway73]

I think so too. Desmond was unsure of his true purpose, and we therefore only knew as much as he did.

[@BastiaenAssassin]

The Templars were totally concerned about the end of the world. They were attempting to launch a satellite with a piece of eden in it intending to stop the solar flare AND simultaneously bring about their new world order. Of course, they missed their launch window after Desmond killed Warren Vidic. I really miss the old days.

[@jayveeeee]

I thought I'd looked this up and I definitely missed the Abstergo files from Revelations. It appears that the Templars knew about the apocalypse but didn't think it would be the end of the world. Like you said, they still added shielding to their satellite network in order to stop the flare.

[@nielslehnen6076]

Why do people miss the bad looking 15 hour long easy af too much dialog little customisation small ass map Assassin Creed??

[@BastiaenAssassin]

@@nielslehnen6076 because they appreciate quality over quantity.

[@0othman0]

@@nielslehnen6076 bigger than doesn't mean better

[@nielslehnen6076]

@@BastiaenAssassin quality over quantity sure, but comparing 30 hours of gameplay with a whopping 200 hours is just a mindFuck. And saying Oddessy and Origins doesn't have quality doesn't add up. You can literally fight the gods of Egypt, the minotaur, giant serpents, Hedes, cyclopses, Madusa, massive scorpions, alpha animals the size of busses and so so much more. The map isn't just a little bigger it's so big the AC 1 map is barely even big enough to fit in one Island on the map of Oddessy which has like 15 or so islands. They're so many different stories going on and every story is uniek. The decisions often don't make the biggest differences but their still incredibly interesting. The entire beef about nerds not getting their Templar bs is just annoying it was honestly why AC3 was so boring to me. Like I was actually happy to be done with it.

[@xxDrain]

What also really gripped me about AC2 was the glyphs. The way they recontextualised history via these glimpses into the behind-the-scenes of well known historical events, and tied the game's reality to ours. As a teenager I was big into the 2012 prophecy and this game was the real deal to me, not just a game. It felt like I was learning the real untold history of the real world, with the precursors and the pieces of eden serving as the explanation to many real world myths, biblical stories etc.

[@ViperChief117]

That scene where Desmond Miles is like wtf after AC II is something that I also said before that quote even appeared out of the characters mouth. That game was pretty dope.

[@leevonrobinson7166]

A great thing the trilogy of AC and the first AC 1 was that they gave us characters we cared about that we watched grow not only as a character but with a great store arc to back it up. Characters where we could feel emotional attached to and always wanted to know what was going to happen next with them with each game that had released instead of these now one and done characters we have in the later games. I really enjoyed the older games fav is definitely AC2 the newer games I just couldn’t see myself playing and would lose interest

[@jayveeeee]

Too true, Altair gets character development in a single game. Ezio’s is amazing to see, we basically get to see his entire life.

[@paulmayson3129]

@@jayveeeee And reading the whole life of Altair in Oliver Bowden's "The Secret Crusade" is absolutely amazing...

[@nielslehnen6076]

Why do people miss the bad looking 15 hour long easy af too much dialog little customisation small ass map Assassin Creed??

[@leevonrobinson7166]

Niels Lehnen why do people like the newer games that have absolutely nothing to do with assassins creed just using it for its name sake. Odyssey without the name on it could just be another open world some what RPG money transaction filled game easily the most boring game. To talk down on a older games the ones that gave the name and honestly the whole reason why it’s grown into a well known game title is silly rather you enjoy the older games or not rather you enjoy following a actual story or not instead of one and done characters like the ones after the trilogy easily the most forgettable character is definitely in odyssey

[@nielslehnen6076]

@@leevonrobinson7166 quality over quantity sure, but comparing 30 hours of gameplay with a whopping 200 hours is just a mindFuck. And saying Oddessy and Origins doesn't have quality doesn't add up. You can literally fight the gods of Egypt, the minotaur, giant serpents, Hedes, cyclopses, Madusa, massive scorpions, alpha animals the size of busses and so so much more. The map isn't just a little bigger it's so big the AC 1 map is barely even big enough to fit in one Island on the map of Oddessy which has like 15 or so islands. They're so many different stories going on and every story is uniek. The decisions often don't make the biggest differences but their still incredibly interesting. The entire beef about nerds not getting their Templar bs is just annoying it was honestly why AC3 was so boring to me. Like I was actually happy to be done with it. Not to mention if you want to get straight into action without grinding *JUST SKIP THE UNNECESSARY STUFF* I did it and I had a fine level the entire time. Also I literally don't remember swat from Desmond except his name lmao.

[@dankcreme3687]

The speech that Ezio gives at the end of AC revelations has still stuck with me. AC1 is also where I started with the series, so many fond memories with the older AC games. Also the music in AC2 was so good

[@woolypuffin392]

Awww yes! I would climb on view points just for the music!

[@gentlemenmozes7659]

"woodkid - iron" If you know you know..

[@LouSassol69er]

Shame the game wasn't as good as that trailer.

[@sammysardar7967]

@@LouSassol69er Mate, I don't wanna judge your opinion but not calling Assassin Creed : Revelation as good as the trailer is an insult

[@LouSassol69er]

@@sammysardar7967 it wasn't the best Ezio game though was it

[@sammysardar7967]

@@LouSassol69er maybe not all the game, but there are some bits that are legendary, like when Ezio meets Altair for the first time, him finding out he's just another vessel, falling in love with Sofia and showing us how wise he's gotten in the past few years, overall is just a great Assassin's Creed game...can't say the same about the new ones tho...

[@DairangerSentai7]

Man you just brought me back to sophomore year of high school.

[@kennethkrause5772]

THANK YOU for focussing on Assassin's Creed 1. I always feel like people completely forgot about its existence or are just deliberately ignoring it. I too was buying gaming magazines back then and I was reading all the AC1 interviews with that attractive Ubisoft girl from back then, Jade Raymond. AC truly revolutionized the gaming industry. Its impact is still felt in so many games to date. But it was completely different back then. Parcour was more realistic, you had to spot and grab ledges instead of just "going upwards", and the crowd would realistically react to your behaviour. I still remember how proud Ubisoft was of the crowd behaviour and the parcour back then :D Glad I got to be part of that groundbreaking time :)

[@scottsummers4154]

In the minority. I really enjoyed the plucky, Kingsman vibe of AC Syndicate. It’s one of my favorites.

[@BURZUMY3ah]

Because syndicate still captures what assassin's creed is. Stealthy, cool combat. Heck the robes.

[@slonismo]

Oh i LOVED syndicate. One of my top AC games

[@scotchgaming.5438]

Really breaks my heart we’re this series has ended up. As someone who loved this incredible series with such a strong passion . Since unity it’s just been so Unrecognisable and caters to people who never even remotely liked the series in the first place. I just miss the beautiful city’s the amazing group of Recurring characters & most importantly actual lovable/relatable main characters that you grew with over an incredible story. Also I miss the modern sections they are one of the main reasons Assassins creed felt so unique and yet again I loved the recurring characters that grew over time. Although I know it will never happen I still kinda hold out hope that the series I loved so much stops trying to be a terrible Witcher clone with no personality & goes back to what made people fall in love with the series in the 1st place 🙁

[@paulmayson3129]

Truly the only way to feel any closure now, is by considering AC3 the true end of AC, to view AC4 as a beautiful epilogue, and to treat AC Unity as a broken promise of what would have been but neve was.

[@kyaryi1]

@@paulmayson3129 Highly disagree. I don't know where the hate is coming from but Ac Unity is the epitome of what Assassin's Creed is about. The Creed, stay your blades off the flesh of the innocent, serve in the dark to serve the light, upgradeables (café - ezio villa, roma), stealth being important as there is difficult combat (Ac1, Ac2) you are not a warrior, you're an Assassin after all. The love and revenge story about De La Serre and Elisé (Ezio and his family), breathtaking city (venice - paris). Great characters, especially Arno. Not to mention the fluidity in parkour. Absolute masterclass. Also the customization and the different builds. Ac unity is very similiar to Ac2, people like you just don't notice. Ac unity will forever be one of the best Assassin's Creed in the franchise.

[@paulmayson3129]

@@kyaryi1 No, actually we do not dissagree. AC Unity (or AC5 as it should have been if it was the actual start of Juno's Saga) is an amazing and beautiful game, and as a concept is the epitome of AC's gameplay and environment. The world of AC Unity is really a work of art! Unfortunately, Ubisoft released it too early for it's own good, and while AC Unity is fantastic, it is also arguably a very unfinished game, which was released to early and which should have been more developed in my opinion, both in terms of gameplay (freerunning, combat, map etc), but also of storytelling (modern day plot with a new protagonist, a much more complex story of Arno with more involvement in the politics of the time, and with the continuation of Arno's story beyond to where it was left in game). Because even now that the game has been patched and works flawlessly, the story still seems to undeveloped and haste, while Arno's memories end abruptly. It is a bit as if we left the story of Ezio Auditore in AC2, and then never revisited his life in AC Brotherhood and AC Revelations. In my view, AC4 shoud have been released in 2013 as it really was, and AC Rogue should have come out in 2014 alone. These two games should have served as an intermediate duology between Desmond's Saga and Juno's Saga, with an Abstergo Employee/Assassin Informant being an actual third person character with personality, who was planted into Abstergo Entertainment by the Assassins to undercover Templar secrets and future plans. AC4 would have been what it realy was, about how a random pirate (Edward) became entagled in the Assassin-Templar War and eventually believed in the Creed and became an Assassin, while AC Rogue would have been about an Assassin (Shay) who eventually came to see the flaws in the extreme version of the Creed and the arguements of the Templars, and abandoned his former ideology for the opposing one, both mostly based on philosophical reasons. Eventually, the Assassin Informant would discover information about Project Phoenix, that Juno has indeed returned and become stronger, and that Abstergo was experimenting with cloning in Paris, leadind into AC5. Then he would escape from Abstergo and rejoind the Assassins. After that, AC Unity would have been released in 2016 instead of 2014 that it actually did, with one year gap with no AC game and two years of additional development in all aspects. Imagine if AC5 had much more places to go beyond Paris, which could have been much larger in order to include it's suburbs like the Versailles and Saint-Denis. Imagine if there were also other cities where many historical events of the era had unfolded, and that Arno could ride horces (and a carriages) around the cities and the countryside. There could have been many more missions of an even larger variety as well. But the most important addition would be if they had made also a modern day story with a new protagonist, set in Modern Paris, by reusing the already existing model of 18th century Paris. So the same thing they did with Monteriggioni back in AC Brotherhood. I wish that the story of Arno would have been much more developed , where we would witness how he became one of the most important French Assassins of the time, by reliving his memories through the French Revolution, the First French Republic, the First French Empire and the Napoleonic Wars, and the Bourbon Restoration. In my view, the start of the story should have been pretty much the same, albeit more complex and developed. We could have been show more about Arno's life before he became an Assassin (like we did with Ezio) for example. Also, the Assassins would play a much more active role in the events of the era, first by wanting peace but then endoce in the French Revolution trying to keep it away from Templar influence and secure the democracy and freedom of the oppresed Third Estate, but then be discusted by the Renegade Templar induced Reign of Terror, trying to prevent the carnage. Arno would have to choose duty (saving many people in a horrible event) over love (Elise arrogantly trying to kill the Templar Grand Master of the split Templar Order), which would lead to Elise dying and Arno shattered in grief. He would eventually recover and understand that she caused her own downfall by being consumed in hatred and lust for vengeance. Later the Assassins would hunt down and kill the Grandmaster of the Renegade Templars (the extremist schesmatics, lead by François-Thomas Germain), and destroy the last remains of them. However, the traditional Templars would have recovered from their blow by the death of their former Grandmaster, François de la Serre, and the purging of his supporters, and would be reorganized under a new one, Napoleon Bonaparte. Their machinations would eventally lead to the convesion of the First French Republic into the First French Empire and using the Apple of Eden, Napoleon would become Emperor of France with absolute authority, by hunting down the French Assassins and the Republican Loyalists after the downfall of the French Consulate. The French Assassin Order would suffer a terrible blow as the Assassin Counsil woud be slaughered and the Assassin Headquarters below Sainte-Chapelle would have been burned down. The former friend and ally of Arno would become the worse enemy of the Assassins, and Arno would hunt him down across Europe during the Napoleontic Wars, from Spain to England and Egypt to Russia. After the War of the Sixth Coalition, which would be Assassin influenced, Napoleon would be defeated and exiled to Elba, while the Apple would be taken away by Arno who would hide it. The Sword of Eden could have been pivotal in the removal of the Apple from him, as unlike the Apple of Eden, it was also deviced to best other First Civilization technology and kill Precursors as well (this would be important in the future for the modern Assassins, as a weapon to figth agaisnt Juno). After the Hundred Days War, where the European Templars would try once again to dominate Europe (and thus most of the World), Napoleon would be exiled in Saint Helena by the British. The former Templar Grandmaster and French Emperor would finaly die from poisoning by the French and British Assassins, as he was deemed to dangerous and they would not accept taking chanses of an other Templar resurgence. Arno Dorian and the French Assassin Leadership under a new Mentor would rebuild the French Assassin Order and France, and they would be pivotal in influencing the Congress of Vienna in 1815 and the subsequent balance of powers in Europe, but also aiding in many revolts that aimed in the freedom and representation of the people, societal and national (Greek Revolution, Revolutions of 1830 and 1848 etc.). Ultimately, Arno Dorian would retire for a time, while also creating a family, as by this point, he would be 47 years old (about 7 years younger than the age of Ezio (54), when he gave up his life as an Assassin).

[@kyaryi1]

@@paulmayson3129 TL;DR

[@thaneros]

@@kyaryi1 Unity is classic AC gameplay perfected

[@NoName-sz5lu]

Story. Simply the story and interconnection for me. Then obviously the character building of Altair and ezio. Also altair actually connects with real life assassins slightly. Like the actual timeline when assassins existed. The connection between Altair and ezio makes ezio storyline special as well.

[@paulmayson3129]

They did not exactly have a connection, the only true link between Altair Ibn La Ahad and Ezio Auditore da Firenze was that the latter was the great-great grandson of Domenico Auditore, whose father was an ally of the Assassins and an aquaintant of Dante Aligieri, who knew Marco Polo, whose father was Niccolo Polo, who knew Altair Ibn La Ahad. And from this line Mario Auditore had the Codex Pages.

[@NoName-sz5lu]

@@paulmayson3129 I was implying to the connection via Desmond actually.

[@npc6817]

The issue with the storyline is that it was clearly meant to end there. Altair descovered the ancients and because of that they chose his bloodline to be the prophetsand relay the message trough ezio first and desmond later. Then the series ends with the uplifting scene desmond receiving the message carried trough history to him and preparing to really join the fight as an assassin against templars and ancients alike, and it would close the story but leave a thread that a second chapter. maybe it would've been more focused on the real world timeline where desmond picked up the torch from his ancestors and rised up as the modern grandmaster of the assassins toesolve both the apocalypse and templar issues, maybe using the animus more sparingly to find the puzzle pieces he still missed or more likely in the shoes of a new ancestor who had knowledge of whatever ancient mcguffin would save the world now. So yeah, basically what 3 tried to condense in a single game and not shit. But ubisoft wanted to get rid of desmond so we got what we got but it's not like it couldn't be saved, it's always been a generational story so just say desmond had a son he himself didn't know about, give it a timeskip and voilà, he could even meet desmond trough the animus or something like that for the ultimate fanservice

[@99RedRedfake]

@@npc6817 He does have a son he doesn't know about. That son is a sage. The Titan Comics are really amazing. Too bad they couldn't do a decent job of telling a story in the actual games. If you loved Assassin's Creed from the Desmond days, the comics scratch that itch. Layla's story is so poorly told that even if it was interesting on paper, which it isn't even, it would still be awful. Ubisoft can find the budget to make a 1:1 version Greece that would benefit greatly from being MUCH smaller. They should cut some of it and allocate that budget to a decent script for the entire game rather than putting it all into a terrible animus plot.

[@Gunth0r]

"is this just nostalgia?" No. I've recently (well starting summer 2019) went through the entire franchise again. I'm now playing Odyssey (170 hours in). Having played all games multiple times (when they came out and again this last year), I can confidently say it's not a matter of nostalgia. The former titles are just better games. The latter titles are better time-sinks and more visually appealing.

[@jaredgreathouse3672]

Totally true. I can go down on my PS4, restart AC2 from the beginning and it'll still be a blast

[@ThePowerOfOneThePowerOfTwo]

Right it's definitely not nostalgia. Though the games have aged, they're still very much engaging and much more immersive imo

[@MatreshkaMertveshka]

It's not nostalgia, last year I started playing all the games in the order of release for the first time, and I fell in love with the series from AC 1. I thought the ending to Desmond saga was going to be something epic, but then I got to AC 3, and was like, "What? How could they???" The ending of AC 3 was like a slap in the face. Then I waited for some Juno action in AC 4 and Rogue, but it never happened. It's been a year since I played AC 3 but I'm still mad when I think about it :D The story in the old games was so good, sometimes it felt like reading a book, I don't know, I can't explain it, it was beyond simple entertainment. All these crazy cliffhangers had to lead to something epic, but it never happened. What a pity.

[@ThePowerOfOneThePowerOfTwo]

@@MatreshkaMertveshka That's because there was great storytelling, and mystery. AC (1) was a tone setter into a very calculated effort to find the apple of eden by the assassin order. A great story of redemption and betrayal. The tone in AC II was ominous, almost haunting. They built up the tension and had you eager to find out what happened to subject 16 and the first civilization, along with the main Animus plotline. AC II was perfection storywise. Brotherhood and Revelations were solid titles too, but then everything took a shit in AC 3.

[@primroseprom]

I second this. I briefly played the assassins creed games when I was 9/10 years old. But, being completely honest, it was mostly just me fucking around in the open world and running into walls because of how bad I was. Hell, I didn’t even discover Connor in AC3 until I had logged like 15 hours in on the game. The first assassins creed game I actually played through completely was Black Flag when I was 15 years old. And I cried when the ending came up. But I wasn’t interested in the modern story to really invest myself in buying the other games. Then I revisited the franchise when I was 16 to play Odyssey. I’m a hellenic pagan so the promise of being able to play a game taking place in Ancient Greece, surrounded with hellenic culture and religion sounded amazing. And I’m not sorry but I actually really enjoyed it. The game has its very obvious flaws but overall I enjoyed it. I’m also incredibly into Norse history and ancient Norse culture and religion. So obviously I also bought Valhalla. I haven’t finished playing through this game, yet because, when I was in the middle of playing it in March of 2021, I saw that the other Assassins Creed games were on sale and decided to play the whole franchise so I could understand the context. With that being said, I’ve been playing through the games (excluding AC1 because the PlayStation store doesn’t have it) since then and the older games genuinely just hit different from the newer ones or even the ones in between. I can’t describe it exactly but it was nice when the collectibles actually made sense to the story. Ezio collects feathers because his brother used to and his grieving mother would love to have them in AC2. AC2 & Brotherhood, you have the option to find glyphs and whatnot which gives you information about Clay/Subject 16. It just feels like everything has a reason for being there, whereas in later games you’ll just have random collectibles for… reasons. There’s other shit too like even though I already knew about the Isu thanks to AC Odyssey, discovering them along with Desmond felt like something new and exciting. I literally got chills when Minerva turns to the camera to talk to Desmond. It’s just a whole other vibe and I love it.

[@williampitt1537]

In the old Assassin's Creed, you felt connected to your universe and immersed in it. It added some realism that didn't give you the feeling you were in some MiniClip arcade fantasy game. The fight aas grounded and the assassinations had impact since they weren't easy to pull.

[@TheMightyKaiser]

Today they don’t even feel like AC games, they feel like shitty Witcher knock offs.

[@azgro8340]

True

[@BlueBedouin]

The Witcher III is the most overrated game ever. I picked it up weeks ago and I was actually offended at how... not absolutely amazing game of the century people fabled it to be? Wheras RDR2 lived up to the hype Witcher just felt like over hyped almost trashy game.

[@sir_genericname4781]

@@BlueBedouin it’s definitely aged over the years

[@yourfatboy5359]

True

[@ketamine4886]

@@BlueBedouin tbf rdr2 makes everything seem shit

[@extremeforlife8563]

A large part is also the pace of the game. It used to be slower, calmer, calculated but now it’s feels like it’s more grind and less story.

[@brycecastagne5023]

Agreed, I miss the feeling of being part of a brotherhood, and in general just being an assassin (not a spartan or a pirate) some of my fondest memories were finding out that there was this other civilization before and the modern day became so cool, deepened the story tremendously and gave layers to the game that made it so special

[@stalkingaboutdumbshit.9984]

I actually play Black flag for the first time now (I play the heck out of 2,BH,R and 3 so I don't know why I waited this long for it) I'm almost át the finish line,it's an awasome game but i sadly had tó agree with u. :( I'm just some random pirate ín it, kinda. :/ I really loved the structure and lessons of the broterhood and the mentality that they áll shared,it truly félt like really tight and gentle interactions of people. But now I feel like I'm completly cut from it,it's just some random pirate game (an unbeliveable good öné but still.) :s

[@abhishekdas2352]

I also miss the old Assassin's Creed game. I played every Assassins Creed game till date including mobile games. But I never feel the same satisfaction once I felt during playing Ezio trilogy and desmond's story. Like Casey Hudson's Mass Effect trilogy and Adrejz Sapkowski and Marcin Blacha's Witcher Trilogy, I adored Patrice Désilets's Ezio Trilogy. When Casey Hudson left Bioware Mass Effect Andromeda does not have that same magic of the original trilogy similarly when Patrice Désilets left Ubisoft Assassins creed doesn't have that magic of Ezio trilogy. It is a shame. I am not saying that Mass effect Andromeda and Assassins Creed Oddesy and Origins are bad games, they are good games but not great games like once they were(Mass Effect 2,3 and Assassins Creed 2, Brotherhood). I hope for the best for future Assassins Creed games and Mass Effect games. But I know Ubisoft and Bioware are not the same studios it once was. The expectation from investors and greed simply relinquished their Creative nature.

[@jayveeeee]

Pretty much agree with everything here. There's something to be said about the power of the "auteur" in video games. This series have been passed around so many times to so many people. It's the price you pay for a new game coming out every year (or every other year) and the price you pay for having a successful franchise... Although Ubisoft didn't have to do it the way they did. Thanks for the insight and thanks for watching!

[@noise289]

I disagree I think Origins is not only a great game but a great assassin creed game something games like Odyssey is not.

[@akwilson1676]

@@noise289 It's great but it doesn't have the same magic as the Ezio Trilogy.

[@DeadlyProductionXxX]

If you miss old assassin's creed then play old assassin's creed. A franchise who goes for 13 years need to change. Origins it's fucking awesome. Odyssey it's not that good, but you have an open world in fucking ancient Greece. It's fucking amazing

[@mozartcastellanosGK]

Patrice Desilets was the creative director on AC1-Brotherhood

[@nellynutbuster]

This is exactly how I feel. I really loved the multilayered storytelling. It was SOOO awesome. "Who are we, who have been so blessed to share our stories like this? To speak across centuries? Maybe you will answer all the questions I have asked. Maybe you will be the one to make all this suffering worth something in the end." This beautiful writing really isn't matched in the new ones. I really really hate the action RPG element of the new ones. I miss THIS assassin's creed. How does a game where you relive old memories have dialogue options??? How does that make sense. Why do I have the ability to pick the gender of my character? Ubisoft doesn't have the balls to make a game with a sole female protagonist.

[@hachi5408]

Old assassins creed was consistent, very memorable, great characters, amazing character development. Renown, armour and weapons had to be earned, not to be given as soon as we start the game and especially not paid for. The new ones aren't even about assassins, I swear I've done barely any parkour, the fighting is all about skill and grind. Its good but, its just a different game entirely. Quite sad actually.

[@brayh212]

I can remember almost every character’s name from AC 2 - AC Syndicate (I haven’t played AC 1), whereas I can’t remember anyone from Origins, Odyssey, or Valhalla other than the protagonist(s) and the ultra-famous historical figures like Julius Caesar, Socrates, and Ivar Ragnarsson.

[@brayh212]

@@Rizzitriver The older ones even inspired me to learn more about the historical time periods, whether it was the Crusades, the Golden Age of Piracy, or Victorian London. The new ones, not so much.

[@besavagenotaverage6726]

AC games after Unity aren't AC games, they are just something else. Change my mind.

[@wyldkrat]

Ok...

[@liltutu3s104]

Sad to say they are. The ones before it kept you intrigued in the story and small side quests that gave you snippets of info and lore on the world that the game takes place in and what form of impact you or your enemies have. There was a bit of it in unity but you'd probably end up grinding missions to get money to buy better gear, you weren't really focused on the story rather the grind

[@Monkey-pl9hn]

@@liltutu3s104 that's your opinion me on the other hand is fully invested in the story

[@holysunnydspirit5671]

Nah bro you have point

[@spacepirate4623]

Especially the release of AC origin, I really don't enjoy the fighting mechanics because why buying better gear when you could walk up from behind and execute them with simple button

[@taltigolt]

what i loved about the old assassins creed is the lore the first civ, desmond the plot, once desmond (spoilerword) the game sortof ended for me it's like the walking dead it has no plot so i am not invested in it, with ac4 there was barely any plot apart from the ingame plot thats when i started to feel disappointed the whole thing that got me hooked was to be pulled out and continue the main story, to move towards something in my case to find out more about why altair was able to summon a map from the apple, then i found out more about the first civ and thats when i got extremely hooked, i was glued to this game series after playing 2 i wanted to know everything about the first civ and how desmonds story develops. like if they were to make an entire game set in the beginning where you get to see the uprising experience it, see eden, see the end a truel prequel to then find out theres more before that too, i would be all over that, i don't care a whole lot for stories whithin the animus they are good but they serve no purpose, i want the modern day to have more focus, when it comes to odyssey the mention of atlantis got me hooked to then play through that atlantis dlc i loved that but it was just too little of what i wanted, i got so facinated by how this game series took our own unexplained mysteries and gave them logical explanations or merged them with fantasy theres lore on everything, hitler, ford, nikola tesla, anything in this world is in assassins creed and thats what i find facinating and so interesting to read about to the point of me reading every single text about every historical figure including juno including aita.

[@yoatemybeans4164]

i hate the modern day stuff it just ruins the imerssion. I want to actually be in paris in unity not in a simulation. Every thing feels fake because of this. I want to be immersed. I want to be a badass viking not a nerd in the future. I hope you understand

[@joakimberg7897]

@@yoatemybeans4164 Yes, I understand, but I disagree.

[@mikeyd3501]

I couldn't agree more. The the true "Assassin's Creed" games died once Patrice Desilets left. That vision was lost. I know everyone loves Black Flag, but that was the beginning of the end. I haven't preordered once since.

[@alxnd_r6345]

Black flag felt so empty. And everything after it.

[@JamesZ32100]

The ones after AC3 (excluding Odyssey) are more like different plots that fills the lore of the AC universe, they're great, but they don't work to connect the story that was set from AC1 to AC3, which is kinda sad.

[@alxnd_r6345]

@@zaffyxtr as a game its a good game. as an AC its bad.

[@TheBerryChocolate]

@@JamesZ32100 although ac rogue connected ac 3, 4 and unity. I really liked the colonial era of assassin's creed... so Ac 3 to unity. Afterwards they became really disconnected because they jumped around in time and had no real storyline in the present after Desmond.

[@JamesZ32100]

@@TheBerryChocolate That's true, there's still connections to them, but after Unity, everything just lost it's way, the true essence is gone, instead we got Odyssey, which is only related a bit to the first civ, and not really a whole lot to the main story

[@Rev8691]

Assassin’s Creed went from being my favorite franchise, to being almost unplayable. The RPG genre change left me feeling alienated as a huge fan of the original format. On top of that, it felt like Ubisoft caved to the pressure of non AC fans and instead of following their own vision, twisted and altered the franchise to cater to internet complaints. Strip away the modern day, let the player dictate who the protagonist is, stop telling a story and instead make it an historic sandbox. After the Desmond trilogy I had hoped they would follow it up with another trilogy. As Desmond was a descendent of Adam, this time we would play as a descendent of Eve and the trilogy would focus on the first civilization and saving the world. The potential was there, but they abandoned it. I could rant all day about this, but I’ll show restraint and stop here.

[@jonathandempsey9228]

Very true. If I wanted to play final fantasy I would. I miss the feeling of being an actual person with human abilities than a cartoon character with magic abilities.

[@madcracker8077]

I just don’t play the rpgs and AC games are still my favorite

[@energydragon1147]

Same here, the RPG change was really stupid and downright an insult to the series

[@bennybeck]

Seeing these ac1 clips really take me back man, I haven’t played that game in 14 years. I remember exactly when I saw that first trailer...it was just different man, feels like a lifetime ago.

[@ayyitshmmm9607]

We all miss the old assassins creed, I don’t hate the new games tho, but the nostalgia from the og games hits HARD

[@HarryJamesE]

I was like 10 in GAME (UK game store) and my dad said I can pick a cheap game and I saw this cover of Ezio with the title Assassins Creed 2, something about it just appealed to me so much he looked badass and the whole Italy theme was a breath of fresh air. I was probably very young for the game i thought it was so violent but very good memories that changed my interest in world history and single player gaming forever

[@jayveeeee]

Dude this is an awesome story! So cool that you remember it so vividly :) I still remember circling games I wanted in the game informer magazines. Before IGN and games media started to take off. Good times!

[@HarryJamesE]

@@jayveeeee yeah back when you played a game either liked it or didn't like it and traded it in, none of this IGN said it was an 8/10 so I'm skipping it

[@sparkfadingspark]

This was perfect! Totally hit the nail on the head on how I feel about AC, and helped explain the modern day stuff to me now cos I got totally lost on it post-Black Flag tbh.

[@jayveeeee]

Super glad to hear! I had a lot more detail but decided to simplify it. Honestly it’s easier to understand that way!

[@jvajvanderast4586]

i used to love the little details. Like when you press attack the hidden blade come out and altair trys to hide his blade behind his back. loved it it just gives the game and scene, when you play, more depht.

[@afonsopereira5258]

idk why but in ac2 when minerva looks "at desmond" i always get chills down my spine, it breaks the 4th wall like ive never seen and its done in such a powerfull way i cant even describe it. Almost like shes talking directly to me

[@connordog]

Thoroughly enjoyed watching this, I miss the feeling of playing AC1 for the first time

[@jayveeeee]

So glad you liked it! Me too man, me too

[@fabrago05]

I recently played the Ezio Trilogy and remembered why I liked this series so much... and why I hate Oddysey so much

[@notevanyoung]

I find odyssey fun… But it’s just not AssassinsCreed.

[@fabrago05]

@@notevanyoung that's the thing. I don't find it fun as a game. I mean, I enjoyed Black Flag a lot, and it's a terrible AC game.

[@notevanyoung]

Fabrago Odyssey was a good idea that had AC forced into it.

[@degeleagel420]

@@fabrago05 Black flag was really good AC wise and gameplay wise

[@jonfarah8529]

Lol

[@eugenerider0701]

This is legit quality content, as a dedicated assassin's creed fan, thank you. It needs more views.

[@MiniUchiha]

Honestly the modern day story of AC 1-3 was one of the biggest reasons why I was so interesred in the game. I loved how it was more based in reality not straight up fantasy. It felt like an alternate reality of our own universe. The way it explained historical events through the perspective of the assassins, templars and the ancient civilization. This is also one of the parts that have changed the most in The newer AC games. You're literally fighting monsters now

[@zubairali5400]

I’ve always found the story of the first Assassin’s Creed all the way to Revelations to be very fascinating and very scary at the same time

[@leevonrobinson7166]

Can we just get remaster of AC 1 please it would be awesome to see that game with great graphics and could even add more content to it even story stuff

[@Coreisus]

Leevon robinson I'd like it if they updated the map to be bigger like Origins or something.

[@sandervanduren2779]

Leevon robinson especially if they did a full remake instead of just a remaster. Remasters never end up being up to snuff with graphics, mechanics, controls, etc

[@leevonrobinson7166]

Sander van Duren ya that’s what I ment my bad but ya that would be dope

[@DaveySkate]

when Minerva looks at the camera, the chills

[@MegaRadomstuff]

Unity was banging, I had zero bugs with it and the movement system and customisations were amazing

[@DOOPEE451]

I remember playing through the first game as a kid. At the time my English was terrible as well as when I played 2nd game. The sheer charisma of Ezio transcend a language barrier and I fell in love with the series.

[@PartyQuest]

i booted the first assassins creed a week ago and still enjoy it immensely! it's like it's still holds up 14 years later... even though i play odyssey more nowdays and it's so much more fast paced. in the first AC they cared about animation and where he grabs, in odyssey he can climb on invisible things.

[@ZmanImaGamer]

I just want a solid story back which means a dedicated main character, removal of RPG choices, the return of stealth being a useful tool, and the return of good parkour. Cause we haven’t had a parkour rich environment since Unity. Syndicate had less bugs sure, but the free flowing parkour was gone and the fastest way to travel was always via horse.

[@benparsons4979]

fastest way to travel in 1, 2, Brotherhood, and 3 was by horse

[@TheBerryChocolate]

Also syndicate had the zipline, which was unique and cool but took away a lot from the parkour experience.

[@rugerjones78]

I feel what set the mood for ac was lack of choice, as soon as they let the customer choose it went to hell

[@woolypuffin392]

Or ship 😖

[@thelonegunman2622]

I’ve been playing ac since ac1 and I absolutely love the new games

[@einfachorangensaft4879]

In my opinion Ac 1 had the best OST. The track that plays in Jerusalem is gorgeous

[@thearchmagiste]

One day, we're all gonna sit down and say "When I was a young man, I had Unity... but I did not see it." We're gonna appreciate Unity for all it's glory if Assassins Creed keeps goin down this path lol

[@kiyoma]

Or "When I was a young man, I had everything.. but did not see it" "I had fun, but did not feel it". I will admit that I took older games for granted but the more the new games are releasing, the more I respect those games I played before.

[@kevingonzalez-james6421]

This series would’ve been so kick ass if the world actually did end in 2012 😂

[@NickonStark]

I miss the old AC but only in a nostalgic way; I don’t want it back. Definitely looking forward to the future of the series.

[@davinky459]

Same

[@takeurpills6024]

Yas

[@UGLYBOYwrld]

Nicolás Tribaldos why would you want an rpg AC?

[@davinky459]

@@UGLYBOYwrld to try new things

[@SonGokuuuuuuu]

Agreed

[@Cangaca777]

I fell like the "Assassins Creed" is becoming just a brand. and we get less and less of the steath, the lore and the vibe that was the soul of the old ones.

[@noise289]

Origins was a great return then Odyssey had to go and fuck it up.

[@MrHunterWiseman]

Origins for me was a masterpiece. It was such a magical experience, just hearing the music takes me back there.

[@Thrilltime69]

we all miss old assassins creed we all do

[@MaoriNative_NZ]

😂😓😓😓

[@roonilwazlib2572]

I just started playing Unity and it made me realize why I can’t get into Odyssey or Origins like I did the originals.

[@offthewallsurfer1]

I'm with you, I just started replaying Black Flag and Syndicate, man I miss Ubisoft's original formula. I wish they'd go back to that. Unfortunately I think they're stuck on the whole RPG aspect which sucks because the series was never like that.

[@UGLYBOYwrld]

RadTheLad not to mention in unity the combat was improved and no longer easy and it was mocapped from fencers

[@ardakorkmaz5564]

a well-rounded and well thought video man. Another thing that I would add is that I think the narrative around the assasin characters also got weaker over time. You had Altair, Ezio and Connor with their own journeys and family relations but after that black flag is a pirate game and unity is a love story. I actually liked Kasandra's storyline and hope that they can do an even better job in the games to follow. Last but certainly not least, great content!

[@jayveeeee]

Thank you so so much! That’s a very good point and one I wish I made. I’m replaying the series so I’m interested to see that. This script went through a billion edits, but at one point I had a bit about there being a “common thread” between modern day, animus, and end of the world. We definitely lost that after Black Flag. Really glad you enjoyed :)

[@arap8217]

"It works?!" Come on! Enemies being damage sponges and complete lack of logical stealth (hidden blade from behind doesn't kill) works? Grinding levels doing mostly meaningless side quests works? Completely ditching any semblance of historical accuracy in order to force the fantasy RPG aspect, because "everyone loves The Witcher 3 and Souls games" also works? Having complete disregard for their own lore within their own universe (Assassins being founded after Darius, because I guess Persia isn't as cool as Egypt) also works? Showing the actual creation of the Assassins as an endgame cutscene in a 40+ hours of game called Origins works too? And then going back 500 years to a time with no Assassins, no Templars (the cult, riiiight), no hidden blade (except Darius of course, but again, that doesn't count until it does) for no reason other than being able to reuse a lot of assets from Origins, them having free reign to shoehorn even more lootboxes, force RPG elements etc and people still kind of remember when "This is Sparta!!!" was all the rage. In the past games the suspension of disbelief was mostly limited to the jump distance and Leap of Faith, and also walking among civilians in broad daylight armored and armed to the teeth while engaging in social stealth, but in Odyssey you can front kick a guy (only if appropriate level) 30 feet, because it was an awesome scene in 300, and in both Origins and Odyssey, you hack and slash through literal armies, all the while having Predator tech? Does that work too? Back in AC3 and AC4 Connor and Edward could feel overpowered but it at least looked somewhat realistic. Now you're saying that a guy or girl in ancient Egypt or Greece, armed with flaming swords, guiding bows, Ghost Rider fire horses and God knows what else works? Further, replacing Eagle Vision with an actual eagle, coz why have something a bit different but still familiar and consistent lorewise when you can just copy the stuff from other Ubi games (drones from Division, tri-rotor from Blacklist, and owl from Primal work almost exactly like Senu and Ikaros) also works? I'm not ranting against you personally, but I just don't get how can so many people justify all the changes from Origins and Odyssey, when they've clearly lost almost all connection to what it was all about. For me, personally, nothing about the new games works, and just to clarify, for me it didn't start with Origins, it started with Evie becoming literally invisible in Syndicate. The last AC game that actually gave a crap what AC was all about was Unity, but I guess the only thing that can now be talked about Unity ad nauseam are the bugs largely non-existent after the patches, but who cares, right? It's all about bigger and prettier now. As for the both overarching and character story, they clearly started giving less and less sh*t after AC3/AC4, and doing it only because it was there before. We''ll see if Valhalla doubles down on the trend or if it can take it down a notch and show us that they do care just a bit about this franchise staying true to its roots.

[@jayveeeee]

First of all, thank you for writing this! You're right, a LOT has changed. Definitely a shift toward fantasy elements. I think they chose to go that direction because it's easier to market and less serious. Super heroes are pretty big these days. A lot of the points you're making I agree with, but I didn't share them in this video because I wanted to focus *mostly* on what I thought was special about the original games from a narrative perspective. I felt like the aSsAsIn'S cReEd SuCkS nOw!1! bit has been done too many times on KZbin, so I wanted to share my opinion from more of a personal perspective. Also you touched on a lot of gameplay changes that I agree with. I wish this video hadn't already taken me four weeks so I had time to go through and evaluate that part of the game outside of my tiny 2 minute segment at the end. I prefer the older games I don't let that ruin my enjoyment of the newer ones. It sounds like you're coming from the purist perspective -- Assassin's Creed is supposed to be X because that's how it started. I just don't think that's realistic for a series that's been running this long and has been shuffled around as much as this has. It had to evolve somehow. I think there is a good argument to be made that it could've changed differently, but when I look at the overall product of Origins and Odyssey? They're 8/10 games for me. They're fun, play them once, move on.

[@arap8217]

​@@jayveeeee First of all, you're very welcome, and thank you for taking the time to respond. I appreciate the direction that you took in your video, mainly because, as you said, there are many videos about why the franchise sucks now, as you put it. You said "I prefer the older games I don't let that ruin my enjoyment of the newer ones." That's just it, I can't enjoy the newer games precisely because I like the older ones. How am I supposed to enjoy these new ones, when they've pretty much eliminated everything that was the hallmark of the series, with the exception of climbing mechanics and open world? Also, I am finding it really tiresome to be constantly called a purist when talking about these newer games. I feel that's a really lazy copout for people who just don't care enough about the series to begin with, and are hence not bothered by all the glaring radical differences. If I were a purist, I'd want all AC games to be like the first one, and that's not the case at all. Every sequel until Syndicate added to the gameplay and the lore, without fundamentally changing the essence. It was mostly about making the fundamentals work in a new setting with gameplay tweaks to not make it stale. Some worked better than others, but it didn't completely change what the games were about. I'm perfectly willing to accept that Origins and Odyssey are 8/10 games for you. However, to me it just shows that you were really not invested enough in the core of what AC actually was and is supposed to be, otherwise you'd be bothered by mostly if not all same things. Think of it like this: If you were really into Indiana Jones movies, and they made a new one, but this time, instead of it being an action adventure, it's a really good deep character study drama, focused on character deconstruction, with only surface level connections to what it once was, and some vague half-assed attempts to connect it to the overarching thread/theme of those movies, would you still be so cavalier about it as you are with this? I don't think so honestly. If I want to play Witcher 3, I'll play that. If I wanted to play Souls series, I'll go do that. And If I want to watch There Will Be Blood, I'll not watch Indiana Jones: Downfall. I will not play some inferior mix/imitation/clone of the two, inferior in all aspects to those original games, and be happy and quiet about it just because they slapped the AC logo on it to make it sell better. I want to play a new AC game, with all the elements that made us fall in love with the series honed to perfection with just enough tweaks to make it fresh and exciting. I don't mind a fresh coat of paint, a different presentation or any other change they make, as long as they keep the core intact. The problem is that Ubi started working from the core outwards and here we are. The point I'm making is about you saying it works. Yeah, it works, but only if you are willing to not really give a crap what those games fundamentally were and are supposed to be, so just turn off your brain, eat it up, play them once and move on. I'd prefer to have something to return to for different reasons than to find better loot. P.S. As if to prove my point about Ubi not giving a crap and people eating it up, the trailer for Valhalla dropped. The only AC things about it are the title and the copy of Darius' hidden blade (now worn on the left arm WOW), shown in the last 11 seconds of a 4.11 minute trailer. Aside from that, it might as well have been the trailer for Total War: Thrones of Britannia 2, For Honor: Vikings and Anglo-Saxons, or Vikings: The Game, without changing a single frame. Hell of a way to promote the new AC game, make the first trailer focus on everything but Assassin's Creed. I think you'll love it.

[@tuncvt]

​@@arap8217 Not only you dislike the change because you believe it should have stayed the old way(which is fair, you can think that), but you go as far to declare anyone who likes these changes "not really invested". If disliking change doesnt make you a purist, which doesn't by itself, then deciding who is actually invested in does. You said they made changes in past to not make it stale, but people thought it became stale.Many people say how they lost interest after Desmond died, that is 4 more games that were like old ones that people weren't interested in.

[@arap8217]

​@@tuncvt 1. Read my comments again, please. I said "to me it just shows that you were really not invested" meaning it's my opinion, not a fact. I didn't "decide" anything, I expressed my personal view. I see those people as such, doesn't mean everyone else does or should. I almost always make the effort to say "I think", "it's my opinion" etc. unless actually talking about things objectively true. Unlike you and the poster of this video I tend not not to say "it is..." or "they are..." but "I think it is..." "to me they are..." which, in fact, makes a huge difference. An opinion is not a fact. 2. As for who's interested in what, most of the comments about not being interested after Desmond died are about the modern day setting and story, not the historical aspect. Not that many people had a problem with the whole history part, believe it or not. Also, I never said there wasn't room for improvement and that everything was perfect the way it was, I just wanted them to not touch the core of what AC was as I've already said. Most of those "purists" would agree with me on that, as far my experience when talking to them goes. 3. The problem I had with this video was the poster said "it works" as a matter of fact, not explaining what actually works, or why it actually works. However, there is and has actually been a pretty sizable group of older fans for whom it absolutely doesn't work. Maybe not enough to make Ubisoft care judging from Valhalla trailer (still hoping to be proved wrong by the gameplay), but still. 4. Please try disprove my points by actually commenting on all that I've said (a lot I know), and not by basically again saying that I am the purist and that people just weren't interested in the old style of AC, there are too many lazy people as it is.

[@tuncvt]

@@arap8217 The fact that you think accepting these changes means not being invested tells me that from your own perspective, not doing that is the only way someone may be invested. Considering that you have no authority to make that judgement as you also have said, this led me to believe you have a perspective of a purist which there are particular set of believes/opinions/positions to take that defines someone as "actually invested", in your eyes at least. You arent a purist in the sense of objective authority, but one that has such view of the situation, is what your comments made me believe

[@Saint.Cosmos]

Crazy that this video popped up when it did. I have been hearing for the last year or so that AC: Unity is actually criminally underrated and got a really bad rap for it's initial technical shortcomings. It was on sale for 8 bucks on the playstation store so I picked it up, and I am absolutely in love with it. Black Flag is actually where I jumped off. It was an excellent pirate game but a bad AC game...it just didn't feel the same. Future games in the series never managed to capture me after that point because it just didn't seem like Assassin's Creed. Unity though....man, they were really onto something there. It feels like a really solid evolution of the gameplay. The parkour, MY GOD THE PARKOUR is just buttery smooth compared to the other games. That should have honestly been the starting point. Focus more on being a master assassin who's incredibly agile and quick, but instead we get RPGs. Don't get me wrong I love RPGs but Asssassin's Creed is, at it's core, not that.

[@rhyley-hz4on]

The leveling system really ruined it for me I think, having to be a certain level for missions would be a lot more difficult and frustrating wasn't really my thing

[@whyioutta5874]

The developers never made it through odyssey, they used all their budget without saving any for time savers. The developers are just playing through the full game for the first time now.

[@F4T4LFUS1ON]

You didnt really talk about eagle vision and how that just kind of fizzled out even though we know for a fact at least Odysseys character is part isu so why dont they have it

[@tjjordan4207]

I personally believe that every idea, every story, every series has a window of time to be experienced in a certain way. From 2007 to 2013, Assassin’s Creed had its time to be experienced for the first time, but now we know what that experience is like because we’ve already... well, experienced it. You can’t put the genie back into the bottle and expect to feel the same way like you did the 1st time. It’s a sad truth that I’ve come to accept. I’ll always love the original games and will replay them over time, but Assassin’s Creed had its time and we will never see it again, no matter how many games they try to do, nor how many “return to basics” they attempt. This is why I believe that a series should always have an endgame, a finale to leave the series off on. Because we need new things in order to experience them for the first time, not recreate something that has already been done.

[@repin8080]

I remember Desmond looked into the Writings on the wall it shook chills on my spine

[@chandlersleziak6416]

I don't know why people have completely forgot about Altair? Even though I started the series with AC2 and AC Bloodlines, when I eventually was able to pick up AC1 I fell in love with it! 👍

[@Rajibudgy]

The hookblade consists of two parts; the hook, and the blade.

[@knightmarespawn2690]

The ropedart consist of two parts; the rope, and the dart.

[@jakubhanak8167]

The phantom blade consists of two parts; the phantom, and the blade

[@Sevren_]

Jakub Hanák The blow dart consist of two parts; the blow and the dart

[@knaussenheimer]

PSA: he rebranded his channel. If you are wondering why you got a notification to someone you never subbed to, this used to be JV2017Gameplay

[@jayveeeee]

Thanks Knauss! Forgot to put that in the comments, just updated it ;)

[@alanuzcategui2591]

Thanks so much, I was saying to myself "this guy looks very similar to the fallout guy I use to watch". This name suits the channel much better.

[@zacksmith.2656]

Thanks

[@knaussenheimer]

Alan Uzcátegui yeah. whenever he uploaded his first vid after the rebrand a couple weeks ago i was in the sane boat

[@silverchain5525]

HOLY FUCK. IT ALL COMES TOGETHER

[@FullMetalDima]

so disapointing we never gor full blown modern day assasin expirience. at least as a part of the game. i dreamed about it when i was a kid

[@FullMetalDima]

hate new assasins creed btw. wrighting is bad and u almoust dont play as assasin anymore

[@jayveeeee]

Me too! I thought that's what Watch Dogs was going to be, but it turned out much differently

[@nickabbott319]

Dmitry Demin fr I thought Desmond would be a modern day assassin eventually in one of the games

[@Maruki2008]

@@nickabbott319 we have a few missions in ac3 with him, i loved every minute of this and wanted more, but later, The ending...

[@holysunnydspirit5671]

Assassin’s Creed: Modern Warfare jk

[@repin8080]

When the story flipped in the first assassins creed it blew my mind. Still haven’t played a game that topped that since. I have never even liked stealthy games before that but maybe because im such a history nerd it hooked me

[@pedobear497]

I connected with Ezio on a very deep level. I really love the games with him.

[@fullmetal1666]

Dang, sorry you lost your family :(

[@IlMemetor72]

Grazie

[@nothingtoseehere2]

@@IlMemetor72 what about da firenze

[@JamesSmith-wu1dd]

Probably because he got 3 games

[@louie_4266]

This is very interesting since I have just finished ac 1 for the first time ever, I'm on 2 now and I am playing through to revelations. Got them all a month ago and it's my first time playing through and I am enjoying my time with them more than Valhalla. So it's not just a nostalgia thing. So far I actually prefer ac 1 than 2 because of its darker tone

[@inyourgrillbrunson9575]

Just go back and play the old games they're classic and sit in a category of their own. They never lose value in nostalgia.

[@atharvajadhav7138]

Jayvee: I miss old assassin's creed Everyone: SAME

[@faz0ulz]

Cuz its true

[@K.M.S.P]

I don't

[@gambeano]

The thing that hit about the modern story was it fell in line with the 2012 irl craziness happening the year ac3 released and (at least my 13 year old ass) I was shook even more leading up to December that year LMAO

[@jayveeeee]

YES that was in my original script! That shit blew me away haha. I was also in US history at the same time as AC3 so I was learning about the American revolution while playing it. Such a cool time to have played it

[@ryanreviews8566]

TRUUEE

[@maxee21]

Honestly brother the classic music playing in the background sums up this whole video for me

[@douglas5097]

5:30 had the biggest impact on me in the entire series. That surprised me like I was really into that world, haha.

[@SourRobo8364]

Assassin's Creed IV: Let's just make a pirate game add some sneaky in it.

[@sandronickeljenkins1589]

Well it was the last ac that was golden

[@DevVy-WeVvy]

@@sandronickeljenkins1589 I'd say origins imo

[@sandronickeljenkins1589]

@@DevVy-WeVvy ha

[@sandronickeljenkins1589]

@@DevVy-WeVvy ha

[@sandronickeljenkins1589]

@@DevVy-WeVvy hahahahahahha