I (Mostly) Loved Marvel's Midnight Suns

I (Mostly) Loved Marvel's Midnight Suns - A Critique

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@Dorkaxe 4 ай бұрын

I probably could have said more on Deadpool, such as his passive trait and gimmick clashing so hard it boggles the mind, plus his En Fuego stacks not being very generous, refusing to carry over any extra kills into the next stack...but oh well. Hope you liked the video, it took forever to make, and I'm very happy it's finally published. Dorkaxe discord link: discord.gg/rnmSP9FQQg Support me on patreon: www.patreon.com/dorkaxe Follow me on twitter for updates on the channel: twitter.com/darkaxe54

@windwind3170 2 ай бұрын

One funny thing that happened to me during my playthrough was when I realized that Caretaker doesn't have a relationship meter so I just always chose options that insult her even though I was playing a Light Side Hunter and then not even 10 minutes later I went to Magic and Nico to tell them to trust Caretaker more just to farm Light Side points lol.

@Nigel222 4 ай бұрын

I got this game day 1 and wasn't really expecting to like it that much because of the cards but I ended up playing it for about 100 hours. I loved it. Shame it failed as a sequel focused on the X-men could have been cool.

@Dorkaxe 4 ай бұрын

An X-Men/Guardians game would be the best for me, oh man. So sad 😢

@Artis_OTS 4 ай бұрын

God an x men game styled like this would be so damn fun

@paulreynolds7103 4 ай бұрын

It's actually good...I'm a player who never really liked turn based games until bg3...tried this after and really enjoyed it 👍🔥

@terry85mar 4 ай бұрын

Turn based is amazing. Final fantasy 1 through 12 are great. Persona is great too. Way better to have to use strategy instead of just parry and dodge like the horrible ff7 demake and ff16.

@almalone3282 4 ай бұрын

If you never played xcom (original or reboot), you're not a real gamer.

@budlikycz2445 3 ай бұрын

@@terry85marwhat strategy? Turn based is slow and boring as fuck. Nothing there screams skill or strategy. You just attack until you have to heal in which case you heal and continue to attack. And the worst thing is percentage in which case you can fucking miss your attack which is so fucking terrible I dont need to even explain

@Tempelers 3 ай бұрын

The reason Tony Stark loves the Unauthorized Autobiography because he has a magazine write it for publicity reasons in Captain Marvel (2019) #1/2. It's a really good comic.

@Dorkaxe 3 ай бұрын

THAT'S AMAZING. Dude thanks for that tidbit, that's such a cool attention to detail.

@JohnSmithAprilMay 2 ай бұрын

Captain America loving the sketch book was one of my favorites. I completely forgot that Steve Rogers was an artist before becoming Captain America.

@cornellcarterjr6287 3 ай бұрын

Ngl I liked majority of the dialogue mainly because I love marvel

@Digger318 4 ай бұрын

Basically, the missions are fun and everything outside is just a boring grind wake up talk to heroes training collect research start research run around getting orbs collect intel start intel select mission night talk spend time with 1 hero book club repeat every time between missions so many load screens ughhhhhhhh just let me play missioks 1 after another

@lutherheggs451 4 ай бұрын

why would anyone want to "talk to heroes" they have like the same 3 lines of dialog, once you've heard it there is zero reason to ever talk to them again.

@ThePhilatkinson 4 ай бұрын

I fully agree with you. Firaxis fumbled the bag here.

@koenvandiepen7651 3 ай бұрын

Yes this games suffers from the fact that much of it's loop should have been a menu. Something the developer solved whit xcom before this game. There you do not have to waste time walkking from research to training and back to missions you just do it. It tried to do the persona/fire emblem thing where you spend time whit the other chracters to improve them for battle. But the thing is in persona and fire emblem that shit is entertaining because you get to know the chracters better. I already know who ironman and spiderman are. Appart from literal heroworship there is just no point to that part of the gameplay loop.

@appstorecritic8125 2 ай бұрын

At 1:47:03 you mention that you've seen the Obsidian Collar trigger with only 2 dark card plays, that's because the Master of the Hunt collar reduces the necessary threshold by 1 for all collars.

@keanuxu5435 3 ай бұрын

Midnight Suns is XCOM Lite, and I’m fine with that

@MEDDlNO 4 ай бұрын

A DORKAXE VIDEO LETS GO

@Scitch-et4vk 4 ай бұрын

This game is criminally under rated

@cheeseblast 3 ай бұрын

Because it's criminally over priced.

@windwind3170 2 ай бұрын

Oh I get it, it costs Heroism to have Venom on your team because his methods aren't exactly "Heroic".

@felman87 4 ай бұрын

I was super interested in this game. "coming to Switch!" they announced. So I waited. And waited. Only for them to cancel the port. Boo, not cool!

@Dorkaxe 4 ай бұрын

I would have been interested to see a switch version, since on my steam deck, the thing was working overtime to keep it going it felt like. I definitely feel like a switch copy would have sold well, though, so it's a sad deal all around :(

@TummyRubz 4 ай бұрын

I was surprised about your summation of Magik. In my playthroughs she was a one-man army, that card adding damage to her portals stacks infinitely and when she is the last one remaining you start to see it every turn, her portals make it so in the early game she is great at multiple removals of weenie characters, then late game is an absolute monster. I was one shotting bosses after stacking her portal damage all fight. Closest character to broken in the game for me, but you do need to pay close attention to her card bonuses you add on to get her to go infinite.

@Dorkaxe 4 ай бұрын

Oh wow I just got two comments about the same Magik being OP limbo grasp thing. Yeah I didn't realize it stacked, wow.

@TummyRubz 4 ай бұрын

@@Dorkaxe She only gets really good late game though, many of her cards like the portal damage stack can be modified to be free. Thanks for the video, you made me start replaying the game again :)

@Dorkaxe 4 ай бұрын

@@TummyRubz Ah, mods. Yeah I imagine there's a few niche perfect scenario builds out there that I didn't see since I didn't like the modding at all. I think I mostly tried to gamble with Hunter, since...you know lol

@TevyaSmolka 23 күн бұрын

midnight suns is a underrated game in my opinion

@windwind3170 2 ай бұрын

I find a hilarious bit of irony in the fact that the only hero that benefits most from Blade's cards that apply bleed is Morbius.

@Kurotaisa 2 ай бұрын

Hey I like Chimera Squad lol. I also like that the game rewards you for going non-lethal, seeing as your squad is a police force!

@Ocean5ix 5 күн бұрын

The game is amazing but it didn't really know who it's target audience was. The XCOM audience would've loved the tactical gameplay but would've hated the social aspects. Fire Emblem fans would've loved the social aspects (and tactical gameplay) but I don't think they were ever targeted as potential consumers. Then there's the ones that didn't consider the game at all because they judged it as a "card game" which it kind of is, but it kind of isn't. I've never found myself in a situation in this game where I couldn't use a move in a mission because I never got the card I wanted. This is not the kind of card game that has 52 card decks and you need luck and the stars to align for you to get what you want, in Midnight Suns it takes roughly 2 turns ou 3 at max for the card that you want to appear in your hand. IMO this game is masterfully designed. What surprised me the most was the amount of the "general" Marvel fans that completely hated on the game for being turn based. Of course I know there are a lot of teenager and kids that love Marvel but I didn't know they hated the idea of a turn based game so much, at some point after reading some comments I had the impression they would rather have Marvel's Avengers instead of Midnight Suns, just because of it's real time action combat system.

@Optimusj1975 Ай бұрын

I liked the game mechanics, but I think they made the graphics too complex, and yet the hero models look basic and not very appealing. Id it had simpler graphics (environment specially), and hence a lower price, word of mouth would have helped. Marvel's Avengers really hurt any Marvel game expectation.

@OminousToast 4 ай бұрын

Was actually rewatching your old videos this morning, great timing

@AJ-zi6ry 4 ай бұрын

Y’know they made this game free on PS+ a bit ago. Maybe I’ll pick it up

@batmanstrike8287 3 күн бұрын

I got this game recently and I gotta say, I really enjoy the combat/team mechanics. I would even say I really like the friendship idea. Where it drags for me is the endless dialogue. After I got Spider-Man I think I skipped through almost every conversation/cutscene, only stopping for my light points or friendship boosts. This game has WAY too much dialogue. To the point where any time someone wanted to talk to me after a mission, I would just skip past them until the story forced me into it

@kingster14444 20 күн бұрын

Dude you're telling me after all this time The Hunter's Merciless ability works with Bind cards!? Oh my god I thought that card absolutely sucked because I thought it was specifically only for the status stun. Which for me basically never happened outside of the occasional environmental because I don't have the DLC character Storm

@kingster14444 20 күн бұрын

I'm lucky my first playthrough I decided to go more neutral, or at least not fully light or dark, since it was pushed kinda hard at the start that I don't need to go one way. This made the light and dark dialogue options not a problem for me, as I basically just completely ignored that and just chose options either I agreed with or what I think the superheroes would like

@CasualNaps 20 күн бұрын

So, about Wolverine's Legendary skill ... it does 2,464 damage to a single enemy if there's only one enemy on the field?

@toongrowner1 Ай бұрын

just finished the game yesterday and even though it was freakin long (and crashed a lot, playing on ps4) still freakin love it. It also helped that this game did not had any connection with the mcu. Even made love Morbius, a character I usual don't care that much for. He was such a blast and personally loved his gameplay (he even beat the final boss for me basicly XD). As for Caretaker.... lets just say, at some point I started to skip all her dialog, she was sooo insufferable.

@Dorkaxe Ай бұрын

Caretaker slander is welcome here!! Haha glad you loved the game too.

@cheezburgrproduction 3 ай бұрын

Lmao intel isn’t a term that should be attributed to XCOM, as it’s just short hand for intelligence which is hilariously ironic.

@SilortheBlade 4 ай бұрын

I was really hesitant when I heard the combat would be card based, but it turned out to be great. Really surprised me. The game really hit home for me as I liked the exploration of the abby, I liked the combat, I'm a fan of marvel, and I like the persona style sim aspect. That said, a lot of the interactions seem at odds with the setting. Blade doesn't strike me as the kind of guy who is afraid to talk to a girl, even if that girl is Captain Marvel. I liked the mechanics, and even a lot of the interactions, but I think the writing didn't always jive with the superhero setting. That said the game is great overall so long as you enjoy all those mechanics.

@soulsofdeath2569 2 ай бұрын

Am looking at this character and I got to say it's not really a midnight sons game and more of a marvel super heroes theme.

@DoritoGOD2811 2 ай бұрын

It's so interesting to me how we came from polar opposite backgrounds (I'm a big comic geek, but haven't played Xcom), yet we came to such similar opinions on this game. I agree so much with a lot that was said here, like: -How the alignment system can be pants on head stupid at time -How useless the team-up cards are and how it would be SO MUCH BETTER if you could just get rid of them. Or at the very least, pick which ones you want to use. If I have Captains Marvel and America in one team, then I want to have Steve's effect on the team-up card with Carol to give her a lot of block to help out her binary form. But sometimes the game fucks me and doesn't give me that one. The only thing I disagree with is Venom, I love his gameplay here. He is pretty selfish in combat, but so is Iron Man and he's my favorite to use. I do agree that he's boring as a character though, they really nerfed his psychotic goofiness to make him more family friendly. Great video, I'm looking forward to seeing your vid on EDF: Iron Rain since that's another game I've gotten into recently.

@Dorkaxe 2 ай бұрын

MORE PEOPLE AGAINST TEAM-UP CARDS, YES!! Let's start a fan club

@TargetRenegade 3 ай бұрын

It's free on Epic just now.

@windwind3170 2 ай бұрын

1:10:00 You should really check out XCOM Enemy Unknown/Within soundtrack. Michael McCann did some of his best work there and every track from the intro to Squad selection to combat tracks are pure bangers. Check it out when you have free time it's worth it. Also on side note McCann also worked on Deus Ex prequels and it's even more impressive there.

@DouglasBurton Ай бұрын

Oh man that idea of having those 1st comic appearances available in game is a great idea. Something that simple would have probably made the whole game better and gave it great buzz instead of the lackluster release..

@cheeseblast 3 ай бұрын

Zero shot this game is 69.99$ good regardless, and that is it's current steam price. Too rich for my blood.

@boiwhoactuallyareyou 3 ай бұрын

I need a dead island 2 and dying light 2 retrospective aha so many more too I’ve been binging loads of your videos for a while surprised you don’t have more subs

@Ai.chehade Ай бұрын

I think their biggest mistake was not making a PVP post game option. This looks like a perfect chess tactics game

@FunSize4Audibles 4 ай бұрын

I really enjoyed this game and still load it up to play a few general missions now and again, but it was also a big part of a depressive episode I went through. Had a pretty significant upheaval in my life and was really messed up for a while. Any free time I had I would get drunk and play this game until I was falling asleep at my desk. Thankfully I'm making better choices now. Still glad I had this game for some small comfort even though the behavior that led me to playing it so much wasn't very healthy

@Supernothing08 4 ай бұрын

Runaways is actually a very good story and highly recommend the B.K. Vaughn book.

@leafia133 4 ай бұрын

This game is so good and I’m so sad that it’s not going to get a sequel. Which sucks because A lot of its problems could be fixed with a sequel

@lulairenoroub3869 3 ай бұрын

Did you just say that Firaxis is best known for XCOM?

@Venzynt 3 ай бұрын

I unfortunately got bored of this game within 2 or 3 days. I was already skeptical of something as bombastic as superheroes being depicted by turn-based card gameplay. However I am an enjoyer of Magic the gathering, superheroes, the custom Hunter, and even the lifestyle/friendship stuff. So I bought the game. Ultimately the battles started to feel more like puzzles with only one or two designated ways to succeed, constant repeats of the same enemies and environments, and boss mechanics that were just annoying. Maybe if the game was about fighting villains in an interesting way, or even pvp against other players teams and builds. Also I wish Hunter could have other options beyond just light and dark, maybe like psychic or elemental. 6/10.

@IcyHorn 3 ай бұрын

This game is free on epic games right now if any wants to play it on pc

@MarinaInChains 4 ай бұрын

c'mon, show some respect for my girl Magik

@cornellcarterjr6287 3 ай бұрын

This game made me want to play turn based games in general

@jplayer073 4 ай бұрын

I don't finish many games nowadays. Some of the last games I finished were Soma, Subnautica and Outer Wilds. It's been years. Loved Midnight Suns so much that I played through it multiple times. The gameplay was fantastic and the social aspects with the NPCs was a great way to give a brief respite from the tough battles, and I loved getting to interact with all these superheroes.

@7thesage853 4 ай бұрын

I remember being 100 hours deep in the game and realizing that limbo grasp actually stacks on top of itself. I felt the same way about magic until I realize that, and she became an absolute monster late game afterwards

@karlklein2263 Ай бұрын

I love deck builders, I love xcom. Midnight suns should've been harder.

@nyx4926 3 ай бұрын

Will you be reviewing EDF IRON RAIN????

@Dorkaxe 3 ай бұрын

gimme 3 more days

@ShaneStapler 3 ай бұрын

great vid

@ed-edd-n-eddy 4 ай бұрын

With the exception of a few characters, I don't care about Marvel. Yet, I put 50 hours into midnight sun. I think that's a telltale sign that the gameplay was incredibly fun. I couldn't get enough so I'm shocked to see how poorly it was received.

@kylewolf740 4 ай бұрын

Got this because of the video. Going full dark side during the team meeting and everyone, even Captain, fawning over it aftwerwards was too funny

@amazonen66 4 ай бұрын

Great video (and thanks for the small inclusion :D)! Might have to dust off the old xcom copies soon...

@TheBlademan- 4 ай бұрын

this game is one of those that keeps getting better all the way until the end. Releasing it the same year as that trash Marvel Avengers game completely killed any hype it could’ve got.

@ihatevnecks7015 3 ай бұрын

This was released 2 years after Avengers

@ThePhilatkinson 4 ай бұрын

Big XCOM fan but loathed this game. My guess is that the load of dating sim mechanics to play ping pong with blade instead of base building and meaningful tactics made this a commercial failure.

@paulg.4812 3 ай бұрын

I think a big issue was it was initially advertised as "superhero X-Com" but then they pivoted away from that when they realized that particular combination, at least in the Marvel-verse, didn't work. I wouldn't call the final product X-Com related at all. There's a few similar terms, sure, and a couple of similar assets, but that has more to do with the producer as opposed to the gameplay. IMO, they should have done a better job pitching what the game actually was when they realized it wasn't going to be superhero X-Com, but I don't think they did the greatest job so they ultimately didn't end up pitching to an audience who would enjoy the game (in some cases actively scaring them away if they don't like X-Com style games) and they set the wrong expectation for people going in expecting X-Com, only to be disappointed. I personally ended up enjoying the game, but I was definitely worried earlier on and it failed to meet my expectations because it was ultimately a different product than I expected. Whenever I try to sell it to other people, the only X-Com mention I'll include is "it was made by X-Com people" but I don't otherwise try and compare the two.

@hipo131 3 ай бұрын

around @12 minutes brother your playing a jrpg light x.x after you said eddie brock sucks all credibility out the window ain't now way bruh lol

@MarinaInChains 4 ай бұрын

Firaxis famously doesn't know when to make their characters shut up

@Exigentable 4 ай бұрын

I appreciate the runtime of the video, but I was sold as soon as you said you could pet a dog.

@ubermorpth2208 4 ай бұрын

Hey another video going over a "big" marvel game that a critique youtuber went over (Charlatan Wonder with Marvel's Avengers and now you lol)

@TheTopgeartony 4 ай бұрын

Yooooo another long video to get me though a work day, you're an absolute savour, just when I thought I had ran out

@JoshuaAdim 4 ай бұрын

The roster is filled with unnecessary heroes which could have been replaced with better characters

@WaddleDee105 4 ай бұрын

This game was a really pleasant surprise when I played it last December. I've never played a game like this before so I found it pretty difficult but it was a rewarding experience. I just really wish the Abby stuff was cut down significantly. There's just too much time spent on what amounts to chores but that's 90% of modern AAA games sadly.

@hollowriller 4 ай бұрын

Would be funny if light side hunters obsession with caretaker is due to a miscommunication of their primary character trait from the writer to game devs: Good people like taking care of people -> Light side like caretaker of people -> light side loves caretaker.

@jtsmelik1574 4 ай бұрын

YOU MEAN TO TELL ME WE ARE GETTING LOTR 3rd AGE!! MY KING!!

@fishraposo7192 4 ай бұрын

Honestly, this game looks like the perfect "xcom lite with marvel characters" I hoped it would be. Thank you for the review, I'm 100% going to get it.

@Exigentable 4 ай бұрын

The game went on sale and I took the plunge. It's pretty charming and just deep enough to be satisfying in both sim and tactics.

@justinfleck6329 4 ай бұрын

Wow this is a WAY more complex and flexible game than I thought based off the original description! I put way too much time and money into MTG and so i totally get how you enjoy getting new cards and how to use them with others. It was cool when you mentioned Matt Mercer as the male voice as I've been watching Critical Roll over the last few months so I got to be like "I KNOW HIM!" xD As always a very well done and complete video great job! Excited to see your next one :)

@Dorkaxe 4 ай бұрын

Oh very cool, I had no idea Matt Mercer was involved with that! I know him from his work in a ridiculous number of video games. He's a very prolific VA, so that's sick you knew him!

@justinfleck6329 3 ай бұрын

@@Dorkaxe Yeah he's the DM for Critical Roll, it is a VERY big and long running D&D group that have a ton of content out there so 100% worth checking it out if you're interested :)