Is Mass Effect Andromeda as bad as everyone says it is? - A look at the writing and mechanics

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The Salt Factory

The Salt Factory

Күн бұрын

Join me as I take a look at Mass Effect with guns and pray for BioWare's recovery.
Oh and there was some OBS Studio update that just crushed my encoding towards the end, causing some scenes to lag. So sorry about that.
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The audio for this one was done by my talented wife: / cakefan220
Hey I stream on twitch: / thesaltfactory_
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Songs:
A lot of the Mass Effect franchise's music
Groose's Theme from the Skyward Sword OST
Groose Beats by BotanicSage [BS] - / groose-beats
Creative Exercise from the Mario Paint OST
Salvation! from the LISA OST
Garbage Day from the LISA OST
Timestamps:
00:00- Intro
05:26- Character creation, introduction, Habitat 7
16:34- The Nexus and the Tempest
36:33- Eos and Aya
55:36- Havarl and Voeld
01:11:12- Kadara
01:22:41- Companion roundup
02:23:20- Getting this over with
02:39:52- Final thoughts
02:52:44- Outro
Thanks for watching!

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@TheSaltFactory
@TheSaltFactory 12 күн бұрын
Sorry for the wait on this one. My uploads might be a little delayed for awhile because we're expecting a baby towards the end of the year. Without getting too sappy, I just want let you know that I appreciate everyone who takes the time to watch my stuff. It's given me the opportunity to build an amazing life and future for myself and my family. So thank you. I'll probably hit The Witcher 3's DLC next. Have a good one!
@damienperry9520
@damienperry9520 12 күн бұрын
Congratulations!!!!!! 🎊🎉🎈🍾
@priestofcrab4043
@priestofcrab4043 12 күн бұрын
Nice work 🎉
@matthewchambers1005
@matthewchambers1005 12 күн бұрын
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@GothxHero
@GothxHero 12 күн бұрын
Congrats dude!! Thats amazing! Your content has been helping me through a pretty rough time recently, so thanks a million dude. Always happy to support
@joshuaslingerland2597
@joshuaslingerland2597 12 күн бұрын
Congratulations!
@domocan6877
@domocan6877 12 күн бұрын
Someone once described the dialogue and companion interactions of this game as “if the writers played the citadel dlc and nothing else” and I think about that a lot
@lucasZr113
@lucasZr113 12 күн бұрын
Damn, that's a good description lol
@JJJBunney001
@JJJBunney001 12 күн бұрын
Yez exactly, I've always thought that too. They forgot that most of the first 3 games are rather serious
@Reddotzebra
@Reddotzebra 12 күн бұрын
That is surprisingly descriptive, the fun part is that I didn't hate this game based on the writing. In fact I was very angry when I heard that they were scrapping the first DLC because all the way through the whole thing I just wanted to know what had happened to the Quarian Ark. No, what made me hate the game was that it's like the writers and animators had never spoken to each other for the entire project. The facial animations were BAD, and since I went with the default "weaselface" preset, the patch that was supposed to "fix" some of it just made it worse, since his face went from "goofy" to just "dumb".
@kemp8667
@kemp8667 12 күн бұрын
Upon playing Citadel for the first time, I kinda wished for a mass effect game that got that vibe for the entirety of the game... And the monkey paw curled
@sheridanmovieguy
@sheridanmovieguy 12 күн бұрын
People don't realize Citadel EARNED that tone specifically because it was a big party game at the end of the long adventure.
@zachthomas8597
@zachthomas8597 12 күн бұрын
This sentiment of "even if the game is good, it's not what I want from this series" is a huge part of my problem with modern Assassin's Creed
@acev3521
@acev3521 12 күн бұрын
Except andromeda is a bad game I played before playing the trilogy and quit it like hour 10
@user-ft5dg1eo1l
@user-ft5dg1eo1l 12 күн бұрын
They killed Assassin’s Creed like they killed my boy Desmond. Left the 2 annoying comedy relief characters alive though. We got a good ending for Ezio at least.
@Nammjahtan
@Nammjahtan 12 күн бұрын
@@user-ft5dg1eo1l I liked Black Flag but after that I just can't get into any of the newer games.
@reidwallace4258
@reidwallace4258 12 күн бұрын
True... but I at least know a LOT of people that like new AC and didn't like old AC. From a business point of view it might make good sense for them to rework AC... This just... almost sucked? Certainly didn't bring in any new mass effect fans, just disappointed the ones they already had.
@hakageryu-hz7jz
@hakageryu-hz7jz 11 күн бұрын
@@acev3521 andromeda 100% is a terrible game. I hope his sentiment wasn't that Andromeda was good and he was speaking generally.
@CaidicusProductions
@CaidicusProductions 12 күн бұрын
EA's response to this video: "We're very happy to hear you enjoyed your time with Mass Effect Andromeda."
@CarrotConsumer
@CarrotConsumer 11 күн бұрын
I don't think EA even remembers Andromeda.
@iamthehobo
@iamthehobo 6 күн бұрын
"We have now removed half the games from your account"
@makiiavely
@makiiavely 12 күн бұрын
"Liam's a loose cannon who I wouldn't trust to take a food order in a restaurant", that bit fucking killed me, probably the harshest criticism I've seen for a character in a while
@CarrotConsumer
@CarrotConsumer 11 күн бұрын
Based Baktria.
@512TheWolf512
@512TheWolf512 10 күн бұрын
a bad soldier. in the worst way of that meaning.
@makiiavely
@makiiavely 10 күн бұрын
@@CarrotConsumer i havent played rome 2 in a long time but i liked the helmet and stayed with it for some reason and i'm the typa guy that changes pfps all the time. I'm always glad when people point it out so thx
@makiiavely
@makiiavely 10 күн бұрын
@@512TheWolf512 the character is so bad that it kinda poisons the game even more. Like why the fuck would they pick him up for arguably the most complex mission ever devised in history, it makes the andromeda initiative seem like a project devised by toddler trillionaires which it kind of is but whatever
@jamiezhou5049
@jamiezhou5049 7 күн бұрын
And I almost sure those writers wents to saints row reboot. Similar storytelling, similar loose cannon characters.
@HokiHoshi
@HokiHoshi 12 күн бұрын
I will never get over your dad's pointless death in the intro of Andromeda. You're telling me that a well trained, elite pathfinder that specializes in dangerous exploration wouldn't know to just...trade the good helmet back and forth with you to take breaths? Real life Scuba divers are trained to do this, why hasn't anyone in Mass Effect figured it out?
@killpuddle9977
@killpuddle9977 12 күн бұрын
He's in this game he probably had a death wish I know I would
@nitecrawlr1345
@nitecrawlr1345 12 күн бұрын
I've seen this argument a lot, and I think it's valid conditionally. Both Ryder's still end up dead despite Alec giving the player the good helmet. The difference is that the player is less dead enough to be resuscitated. This can be for two reasons. Reason A. Alec died of lack of oxygen, and the player died because of fall related injuries OR B. The environment was so dangerous that during the time (like 30 seconds) that the player is helmetless, they take enough damage that they die, then Alec gives the player the helmet and SAM knowing they are both required if the player is going to survive. SAM probably told him that was the case. If option B is correct, then I think it really comes down to toxic air being different then water. I personally imagine habitat 7's air is deadly to touch due to temperature, chemicals, or whatever that stuff is that disperses when you restart a vault. Anyway, I think that if the player still died even with what Alec did for them, there was no way way for both of them to make it out, and Alec did what was best for his kid. Not to say the scene isn't still contrived as all hell: why did that vaults mist go outside the tower when all the others stop at the entrance room and why couldn't he use omnigel to fix the player's helmet are two very big plot holes that I still don't really have an answer for. But yeah. I don't think Alec and the player could share a helmet.
@Motoko_Urashima
@Motoko_Urashima 12 күн бұрын
It's like arguing that jack and rose could both have fit on the piece of wood. Yes, but that wasn't the point. It comes off more like the opening to Konosuba where a man dives in front of a truck that's already stopped and dies of embarrasment.
@grimerime23
@grimerime23 12 күн бұрын
@@Motoko_Urashima then they very easily coulda gone around that by saying he was a very careful N7 that always kept a helmet patch on him, but both of their helmets cracked and he decides to use the patch on his kid and at the same time, takes the AI out of his helmet and puts it into theirs knowing he'd die. there are multiple ways of going about this that would have had the effect your talking about but not be as retarded.
@SirKnasher
@SirKnasher 12 күн бұрын
He knew how bad the game would be and made the choice to dip early
@Feraligono
@Feraligono 12 күн бұрын
They managed to send an entire expedition to another galaxy and yet couldn't be bothered to run a basic psychological evaluation or background check on any of the volunteers.
@10011110011
@10011110011 11 күн бұрын
They wanted to get rid of quirky ones
@DeadmanNC1
@DeadmanNC1 11 күн бұрын
They sent their most incompetent people as far away as possible and told them they were the best just to be rid of them.
@Electric999999
@Electric999999 11 күн бұрын
Clearly they expected it to fail and saw it as a convenient way to rid the Milky Way of its most annoying denizens.
@MrDalisclock
@MrDalisclock 11 күн бұрын
​@@DeadmanNC1 so the B Ark?
@aidanmagill6769
@aidanmagill6769 10 күн бұрын
Sounds like a government program.
@PlebNC
@PlebNC 12 күн бұрын
The good parts: - The Nomad is fun to drive (no surprise, Criterion Games were roped into doing that part). - Complete class customisation (my character was literally Jango Fett). - Similarly crazy weapon customisation (LMG that shoots sticky grenades will never stop being fun). - The story premise and some of the threads. The Bad parts: - Due to the massive production issue, the overall execution. - The economy is broken. You can easily become an unkillable god before the mid point if you do everything. - The fact this has bombed so hard the interesting parts of the story aren't likely going to be resolved in any way.
@BradTheAmerican
@BradTheAmerican 11 күн бұрын
I agree. With ME1 being my favorite game in the series, the nomad partially felt like a return to form. And the free-form "class" customization meant that I only had abilities that I wanted to have. No longer was I forced into having something like shockwave simply because I wanted to be the shotgunner. In my current vanguard run I've been using the alien "shotgun" that shoots giant orbs of death, and an assault rifle that shoots heatseeking projectiles. In my previous run I did an infiltrator and it was so fun sniping people with that ability that highlights enemies through walls.
@bubalfred260
@bubalfred260 6 күн бұрын
Cons list is a bit lacking, there are so many things you could say about the writing and characters 😂
@PlebNC
@PlebNC 6 күн бұрын
@@bubalfred260 Eh, I found the writing and characters on par with the rest of Mass Effect. I also didn't want to write a thesis so that's why I bundled it all together into the first bad point because ultimately most of the bad stuff is the result of the production problems the game had.
@Weedknight-oi9zc
@Weedknight-oi9zc 5 күн бұрын
Stop. Just no..
@Giddog40
@Giddog40 12 күн бұрын
“We expected life, not an enemy that refused to talk.” Right because humanity’s first ever contact with alien life wasn’t just getting shot up or anything. Have they completely forgotten the first contact war? That is absolutely a possibility!
@Kushrada
@Kushrada 12 күн бұрын
Thats the thing that really pissed me off. First planet you get the choice between a science lab or a military base and I chose the military base only for all of the hub npcs complained about how it was a terrible choice. I'm sorry did everyone forget that the kett wiped out the last base and killed everyone and that that was a science lab to boot.
@kostaspassias3815
@kostaspassias3815 12 күн бұрын
They just kinda forgot.
@Reddotzebra
@Reddotzebra 12 күн бұрын
Well, technically that first enemy humanity met didn't refuse to talk, they just treated humanity like they were juggling hand grenades at an arms depot. You can't really say "Get on the ground with your hands behind your head, move, move, do it or I shoot" in a nice way, they teach you that on the first day of training because you're supposed to shut your brain down so your forget how scared YOU are. =3
@marley7868
@marley7868 12 күн бұрын
@@Reddotzebra well partly the turrians were just doing a brushfire war for kicks they just didn't realize they were kicking the hornets nest and everyoneon the council agreed given there response when they got there was "WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU"
@shenotski
@shenotski 12 күн бұрын
'I'm sorry my brain is tired'
@SaurontheDeceiver
@SaurontheDeceiver 12 күн бұрын
I've typically described this game as "I guess it was fun enough to finish it and do most of the side content, but I instantly forgot every event and character the second I was done. I do not care strongly enough about anyone or anything that happened."
@StinkleDink
@StinkleDink 11 күн бұрын
This is pretty dead on, most of what I remember is how pretty the landscapes were while driving to and from characters I don't remember for sidequests that weren't more exciting than holding the interact button.
@KibaPwnU
@KibaPwnU 11 күн бұрын
This is exactly what I was thinking while watching/listening to this video. Felt like unearthing buried memories.
@jtn81x
@jtn81x 11 күн бұрын
I only played it once most of the worst bugs were fixed, but it still wasn't good enough to finish, and it crashed all the damn time cause of some DirectX error. I hated clearing monoliths and most of the side quests were poorly disguised driving quests. Tried to finish it several times, last time I got as far as building a base on Eos before I noped out. Would much rather have taken a game with the traditional more linear approach and exploration of planets mostly from orbit than this Ubisoft game.
@matthewsommerville88
@matthewsommerville88 11 күн бұрын
Just like Dishonored
@eligoldman9200
@eligoldman9200 11 күн бұрын
The combat was fun exploring was interesting and the terraforming dungeons were fun. But that’s basically all.
@TheTexasDice
@TheTexasDice 10 күн бұрын
Liam is the answer to the question nobody ever asked: what if you took Jacob and made him worse.
@Blarglesnarfe
@Blarglesnarfe 6 сағат бұрын
Liam may be annoying, and stupid, but he's NOT a communist! Sorry, what were you saying he was again?
@kmart93
@kmart93 11 күн бұрын
Your comment about "lack of consequences" is spot on. I picked up Mass Effect 3 in 2012. I had no idea what the series was about, but people were talking about it so I gave it a go. When I got to the "Save the Quarians" or "Save the Geth" bit and it was a no win choice I was so upset & felt that shit for weeks. Then I learned I could get a better outcome if I played the previous games so I went and bought ME1 and ME2, played them, then started ME3 over before finally finishing ME3. It's been 12 years and I still remember that vividly. I played Andromeda and it was aggressively fine... but watching this video I find myself going "I don't remember that character, I don't remember that character... definitely don't remember this guy". The consequences help make these games memorable!
@BraveDingo
@BraveDingo 11 күн бұрын
Having been someone that always would meticulously format my me1/me2 saves to get world setting I wanted for me3 to avoid situation(s) that you described. I’ve always wondered what it would have been like to be on the other end of spectrum such as yourself. I can’t even begin to fathom how it must of been to have the culmination of all the world building and drama of me3 be ones intro into the universe. I always felt that it would have all the same capacity to reel one in and make them want to replay to beginning as it did for me when I started with me2. But with situations such as that, lack of history with the characters, and lackluster endings, I always thought that the huge amount of people such as yourself that started with me3 would likely have missed out on the allure of the best sci-fi trilogy ever because of a somewhat botched 3rd game, especially when viewed standalone. Needless to say, it is refreshing after to hear your input and it puts a smile on my face. I would pay ANY amount of money in the world to get to erase my memories and replay the trilogy. So to hear how someone else loves from a completely different angle is eye-opening.
@bubalfred260
@bubalfred260 6 күн бұрын
​​​​@@BraveDingoYour just spouting the bias of the bandwagon hate on me3, everyone that I know that played the trilogy years after it launched said they loved the 3rd game. Me3 isn't a masterpiece but its definitely an amazing finale for the series and CERTAINLY better then the mass circle jerk likes to say it is. Stop trying to push the "botched 3rd game" hate on new players just because you can't see past your bias
@johnkeith8619
@johnkeith8619 5 күн бұрын
@@bubalfred260 no its not a amazing finale when it first came out, you played it after they updated the ending (and its still mid at best). the Original ending was just 3 colors which the developers promised wouldnt be the case. ME3 as a whole got alot of pushback because it wasnt a finished product either. go back and look at the background pixels thats supposed to be humans running, they still look worse than the original mario side scrollers. stop playing the ending right after you make your choice and thats basically the ending we fans got on our first playthrough. they eventually updated the ending with several new cut scenes and added the ability to shoot the "Star Child" that was never mentioned until the moment you meet it. Its still just a 3 color ending that hurt the franchise so badly that Andromeda was always going to be under a microscope and it failed to survive the scruinity. i mean ME3 got several updates and DLCs, Andromeda 7 years later is still on 1.1 because it was abandoned to finish Anthem which EA was hoping would be a cash cow and was a bigger failure than Andromeda. if nothing else Andromeda did sell well enough and kept Mass Effect in the collective thoughts that helped lead to the Legendary edition of the OG trilogy and now a Mass Effect 4. my opinion is the best Mass Effect was 2 it goes 2, 1, Andromeda, 3.
@bubalfred260
@bubalfred260 5 күн бұрын
​​@@johnkeith8619I'm not defending the original ending brother, I understand it was weak, I was around when it came out but played the whole trilogy years later after it was updated and absolutely loved the 3rd game, I originally liked the 2nd game the most but after replaying the trilogy in 2022 I think the 3rd might be my favourite. And I've heard this shared sentiment from many people that played they trilogy years after the ending drama and the all enjoyed the 3rd game. You and the rest of the people that played the 3rd game can choose to continue hating it as much as you see fit, but trying to push your bias on the new players just because you can't move past your hatred is kinda pathetic. Its simply time to move on bro, I'm sure there's lots of people who you can circle jerk about how bad the ending is, go find them. The fact that you have andromeda over me3 1000% speaks for itself 😂 But your entitled to your opinion
@johnkeith8619
@johnkeith8619 5 күн бұрын
@@bubalfred260 im not trying to put any bias on anyone. ME3 in its current state is a good overall game, just like andromeda is a decent game that didnt meet its potential because of being abandoned. But you said the ending of 3 was amazing. In which I replied it wasn't when the game first came out. It was an ending us fans were lied to about. When asked about the real at the time worry by fans asked if the ending would just be a 3 color ending the devs said it wouldn't be. Then what is the ending? Its simply a 3 color ending. Maybe EA told them to change the ending once it was leaked. Also I dont hate ME3. I simply enjoyed Andromeda more. Maybe because I personally always like beginning over endings. Probably because andromeda has the smoothest combat of the entire series. I'm firmly in people can like and love anything they want in gaming. So my personal rankings is 2 is the best in terms of characters and a decent story. 1 is the beginning and a strong story. Andromeda has the potentially good story with best game play crap animations in general. 3 good game play, good characters built thru the previous games the ones shoehorn in like James (who i do like) were weaker because the other had 1-2 full games of development also kinda crappy animations. (The human pixels running in the background on earth, the reporter based on jessica chobot as examples)
@melanino
@melanino 12 күн бұрын
46:50 jesus why did she get so aggressive. What he said was a light jest and she replied,"fuck you, your own people commited genocide"
@assordante2205
@assordante2205 12 күн бұрын
Was she saying anything that was untrue though?
@TheListener22
@TheListener22 12 күн бұрын
I know right? My jaw dropped when she said that. So out of pocket lol
@marley7868
@marley7868 12 күн бұрын
like she names the second worst thing that's ever happened to them a proper retort woulda been "what's the krogan definition of sucess mass bodies or just one man army bullshit?" that woulda been a decent jest back but it'd need good voice acting or you'd sound like an *ss for the same reason
@AesirUnlimited
@AesirUnlimited 12 күн бұрын
@@assordante2205Something being true doesn’t mean it’s called for.
@kw9849
@kw9849 12 күн бұрын
It's basically a Twitter argument, but out loud. The writers must have been terminally online before it was cool.
@Deuzen_FIN
@Deuzen_FIN 12 күн бұрын
One thing I remember liking about Andromeda is that if you stuck with the default name of Scott/Sara, NPCs would occasionally call you by your first name. That, and I guess the gunplay and mobility was more slick, but that's one minor and two notable positives in a sea of mehs and blechs.
@Edax_Royeaux
@Edax_Royeaux 12 күн бұрын
Yeah, combat was awkward in Mass Effect 1, but I wasn't playing Mass Effect for the awesome combat mechanics, even though there were shining moments if you upgraded properly. Explosive rounds in a sniper rifle felt like firing off an artillery gun during the final battle.
@hurnt1494
@hurnt1494 12 күн бұрын
​@@Edax_RoyeauxI always liked hitting enemies with lift the throw and watching them shoot into space.
@dogishappy0
@dogishappy0 11 күн бұрын
Interesting, I remember the jetpack boost mechanic having the same momentum issue as Sonic Frontiers.
@BradTheAmerican
@BradTheAmerican 11 күн бұрын
Those improved gameplay aspects are what pretty much saved MEA for me. It felt like the bastard child of Mass Effect 1 and Dragon Age Inquisition, which was just barely enough for me to not write it off entirely.
@jakespacepiratee3740
@jakespacepiratee3740 12 күн бұрын
I just realized the Story of Anthem and Andromeda are basically the same. A group of people live on a dangerous planet due to Forerunner-esc devices screwing with the environment. They have big ambitions but it all goes wrong and lots of people die or turn into pirate gangs. A overly sarcastic and Marvel-dialogue spewing character who previously had little importance is the protagonist. The villians are invading dickheads who want to use the Forerunner Terraforming Technology as weapons. They also capture your people and transform them into Monsters. The main enemies are the imperialists, Pirates and Wildlife. It ends with a hint that the big bad guys are coming back. (Which is never followed through due to being critical failures)
@KamikazeChinaman
@KamikazeChinaman 12 күн бұрын
Bioware has been writing the same story, characters, shitty TV dialogue and with the same structure since the beginning, just in different settings. Don't even get me started on their technical incompetence.
@tequilawhiskey
@tequilawhiskey 12 күн бұрын
Even Kotor, which is set in a Forerunner period of time to its own namesake, the sw orig trilogy, has its own forerunners in the Rakatan. Not a complaint there for me though. It and halo were young mes intro to the concept.
@Nammjahtan
@Nammjahtan 12 күн бұрын
The difference is Anthem had superb flying.
@ducky36F
@ducky36F 12 күн бұрын
No... No they arent 🤦‍♂ So many of ya'll never even played the games you hate I swear
@jakespacepiratee3740
@jakespacepiratee3740 11 күн бұрын
@@ducky36F I’ve played both start to finish and I hate neither.
@lunarvagrant
@lunarvagrant 11 күн бұрын
2:09:34 What's interesting here is that if you're playing as Sara Ryder, she will actually explain to Jaal how human eyesight works which shuts him up. Scott Ryder doesn't know, which is kinda funny. It's easy to forget that unlike the OT, the "opposite gender" version of yourself is a person who exists regardless of who you play as, and they have a different background to your PC.
@Ariescz
@Ariescz 8 күн бұрын
Yeah, Sara being the "science geek" of the two siblings open up some cool stuff (and that is why I play Sara as my "canon" Pathfinder, just as I think John is canon Shepard)
@stevengull6703
@stevengull6703 12 күн бұрын
Ah Andromeda the game marketed as an adventure with your twin in a new galaxy. The same game that if you do all the side stuff along the way you go 83% of the game before your twin finally wakes up. Only to be kidnapped immediately after.
@fligg
@fligg 12 күн бұрын
Drop everything. New Salt Factory video!
@murica4evs
@murica4evs 12 күн бұрын
I know, right 😆
@chrisjames8979
@chrisjames8979 12 күн бұрын
I think you mean movie, not video.
@Discovery2024-rn8kn
@Discovery2024-rn8kn 12 күн бұрын
I can hear panties hit the floor. Let the panties hit the floor, let the panties hit the floor.
@DragonsWatchlist
@DragonsWatchlist 12 күн бұрын
already on it!
@Darth_Kush941
@Darth_Kush941 12 күн бұрын
Was giting ready for work.. calling off now
@VexedForest
@VexedForest 12 күн бұрын
My biggest issue was how they went to an entirely new galaxy... and the plot was basically recycled from the ME trilogy. Ancient precursor, enemies that are converted people, etc. Just seemed pointless.
@imjusthereforthememe6625
@imjusthereforthememe6625 9 күн бұрын
I know that was one of the things that pissed me off immediately, when I discovered the Kett were converting people I just thought this is the reapers all over again. I wish that it had focused more on the Remnant, but given the quality of writing I’m sure if anymore attention was put on that part of the story it would have turned into a copy paste of Halo
@KiggeSand
@KiggeSand 5 күн бұрын
Idk, the remnant were just prothean 2.0. They didn't interest me one bit
@eattheventrue
@eattheventrue 11 күн бұрын
as someone who has put way too many hours into this game and has actually enjoyed most of it, the best way i can describe the writing is “someone swapped a mid spin-off mass effect fanfiction written by someone who only played 3 and really only liked Citadel with the actual game’s script and the devs just went with it anyway”
@Jedi_Spartan_38
@Jedi_Spartan_38 12 күн бұрын
22:00 Fizhy: "Addison's face is STILL tired..."
@Skumtomten1
@Skumtomten1 12 күн бұрын
My face is tired LOL. Who wrote that line lmao.
@chengarqordath
@chengarqordath 11 күн бұрын
@@Skumtomten1 If Andromeda was a more recent game, I would suspect that an AI wrote that line.
@Duncan23
@Duncan23 12 күн бұрын
I'm still amazed at how bad those facial animations are, how did they fuck it up that badly 🤣
@jtn81x
@jtn81x 11 күн бұрын
I know it's a rhetorical question, but the answer is rookie studio, an engine that is notoriously hard to work with and way too little time.
@BradTheAmerican
@BradTheAmerican 11 күн бұрын
@@jtn81x It's been 10 years since Dragon Age Inquisition and I wouldn't be surprised if BioWare still didn't know how to use Frostbite effectively.
@juliomontega2868
@juliomontega2868 11 күн бұрын
@@BradTheAmerican What is the effective use of Frostbite? Cringe-Quip and character animations like in BF2042? ;)
@BradTheAmerican
@BradTheAmerican 11 күн бұрын
@@juliomontega2868 Frostbite's big thing was environment destruction, which BioWare implemented in the form of wooden crates and sandbags. I suppose it has good lighting too. It boggles my mind that EA forced BioWare to use Frostbite and build RPG mechanics into an engine not designed for RPGs instead of just adding new flashy and visual features into an engine already designed for RPGs. Just feels backwards and giving them more work. It makes me think of that Armageddon movie by Michael Bay where they decided that it was somehow easier to train oil drillers how to be astronauts instead of training astronauts how to drill.
@juliomontega2868
@juliomontega2868 10 күн бұрын
@@BradTheAmerican Agreed, the engine worked very well in BF4, but a FPS game and RPG are two different things. I bet on corporate management deciding to "cut costs by unifying the engine usage to frostbite". Managed to fail.
@waldosanchez9627
@waldosanchez9627 12 күн бұрын
50:14 Bro the galaxy doesn’t know that. Shepard had to link his mind into the geth to find that out
@Truewooper
@Truewooper 11 күн бұрын
Was thinking the same thing.
@iliterallycanteven5347
@iliterallycanteven5347 10 күн бұрын
All anyone had to do was ask the geth to learn this, seeing the geth memory was a side quest shepard got when deleting the reaper code.
@waldosanchez9627
@waldosanchez9627 10 күн бұрын
@@iliterallycanteven5347 the geth weren’t open to talking until Legion though. Before him and Sovereign the geth were reclusive but openly hostile to ships in their space. Also the geth committed a genocide. Who tf would talk to them after that
@iliterallycanteven5347
@iliterallycanteven5347 10 күн бұрын
"While they prevented any contact by other races with themselves, the geth monitored communications and the extranet." Geth did in fact not commit genocide and were always listening. No other races even tried peaceful talks with them in any serious way. Legion was made to look for Shepard not as a Geth diplomat.
@waldosanchez9627
@waldosanchez9627 10 күн бұрын
@@iliterallycanteven5347 it seems like you just agreed with me tbh. I guess ethnic cleansing is the more accurate term for what the geth did to the quarians
@andrewneedham3281
@andrewneedham3281 9 күн бұрын
LOL. Was at 18:17, the part where Salt is going on about just how bad the dialogue is post-Ryder Sr.'s "untimely" but plot-driven death. It went into a commercial for allergy medicine at that point, and I swear I didn't even notice it wasn't gameplay until the shilling started. "Oh, god, my allergies are just the worst. Oh, you should try Claritin!" THAT'S how bad the banter is.
@Jarakin
@Jarakin 12 күн бұрын
Having one hundred percent completed it back when it came out I am completely convinced it's a first draft that got pushed out to meet deadlines. The basic ideas are there and not terrible but they're not actually connected together into a coherent story.
@kw9849
@kw9849 12 күн бұрын
The basic premise of going to another Galaxy was instantly squandered the moment they decided to populate it with slight variations on Aliens we'd already seen for 3 games and have it serve as the setting for an incredibly generic plot.
@reidwallace4258
@reidwallace4258 12 күн бұрын
The dialog always seemed to me like they wrote like, guidelines, like 'This character says this' 'this character replies sarcastcally' and shit like that, just to block out the mission creation before writing and recording the dialog... But then instead of letting a writer handle it, they sent it off to the editing department and let the guys in charge of punching up good writing just fucking give er.
@dogishappy0
@dogishappy0 11 күн бұрын
I stopped playing when I got to one of the first ice planets. The second day after launch I cracked open a box of sangria and turned the temperature warnings into a drinking game... I downed the entire box and was still on the dang ice planet. Haven't played it since.
@BradTheAmerican
@BradTheAmerican 11 күн бұрын
A huge slap in the face is that the "reward" for 100% planet habitability for all 5 planets is that a planet gets named after you. The planet name doesn't get updated in the UI and you can't land on it or do anything with it. You just get a small cutscene of a voice telling you that it happened.
@NotSpecialDude
@NotSpecialDude 9 күн бұрын
It probably was. This game had 5 years of development, but the first 4 were spent fucking around with a planet random generation function that was scrapped due to how they weren't going anywhere with it and wasting dev time.
@tristandelasuertemexcla
@tristandelasuertemexcla 12 күн бұрын
6:49 best silent joke ever
@JaisonJFranklin
@JaisonJFranklin 12 күн бұрын
This is an Easter egg (45:00). The Krogan is doing the Shia LaBeouf's speech. JUST DO IT!
@jakespacepiratee3740
@jakespacepiratee3740 12 күн бұрын
1:28:59 - The Glitches were genuinely the best part of this game. 2:34:50
@SpoofyJuliani
@SpoofyJuliani 12 күн бұрын
This video is about twice as long as my total Andromeda playtime
@ALLMINDmercenarysupportsystem
@ALLMINDmercenarysupportsystem 12 күн бұрын
It is math error times as long as my total Andromeda playtime (0).
@phillipthompson5937
@phillipthompson5937 12 күн бұрын
I got 30mins in to the game and then quit. It was buggy af even in '23 🙄
@AJaydedArtist
@AJaydedArtist 12 күн бұрын
Same. And I've tried to play it on 3 different occasions
@xfunkypicklex
@xfunkypicklex 12 күн бұрын
I've tried to play this game like 4 times now. I get about 2 ish hours in and just cannot go on.
@butterflymage5623
@butterflymage5623 12 күн бұрын
@@phillipthompson5937I never had buggy problems when I got around to getting it on discount.
@j.o.t.4212
@j.o.t.4212 12 күн бұрын
Salt is tackling Andromeda? Welp there goes any chance of having a productive evening, but at least it will be thoroughly entertaining.
@hopethishelps91
@hopethishelps91 12 күн бұрын
Yup now chores will have to get done tomorrow
@chrisg8989
@chrisg8989 10 күн бұрын
Really surprised you never brought up the fact that the Kett are essentially just the collectors from ME2...
@k3salieri
@k3salieri 12 күн бұрын
Should have stuck with Dick Ryder. Or at least Richard Ryder.
@LordOffal
@LordOffal 12 күн бұрын
I jumped on this game a number of years after it came out. I went in opened mind, after playing a few levels I realised I felt like the game was filled with busy work and I was having to force myself to play the game. I put it down after that.
@onchristieroad
@onchristieroad 12 күн бұрын
I had a similar experience, but then I just... stopped doing the busy work. I really enjoyed it then!
@LordOffal
@LordOffal 12 күн бұрын
@@onchristieroad I'm happy for you. I found it all a bit too tied together. I knew I'd be giving up the "good" ending by not doing it and I found that because I'd done it to start with I'd lost all care for the story.
@Kris-wo4pj
@Kris-wo4pj 12 күн бұрын
Eh thats 99% of rpgs esp around that time and esp from bioware. Its busy work with some story tacked on.
@Edax_Royeaux
@Edax_Royeaux 12 күн бұрын
I felt with the Settlement system of Fallout 4, that game was also full of busywork, but because I was upgrading my armor, my power armor, my weapons, my home, it was something I was willing to actively engage in. There needs to be tangible rewards for busywork that the player can notice.
@themanofconstantsorrowelia1929
@themanofconstantsorrowelia1929 12 күн бұрын
That was my issue with mafia 3. After the intro it just busy work until the game rewards you with a story mission
@Macapta
@Macapta 12 күн бұрын
I was so surprised they removed the option to hot key companion abilities to the D-Pad on controllers. So satisfying in ME3 to have your party members set up or detonate ability combos.
@NeightrixPrime
@NeightrixPrime 11 күн бұрын
It does feel like a bit like a skill nerf. I don't miss the tactical pause but the commands were nice.
@jtn81x
@jtn81x 11 күн бұрын
People seem to love to shit on most things in ME3, but I think the controls were pretty good once you got used to them and edited some files to remap sprint, cover and use to separate buttons. Which is a step you should not have to do, but at least you could.
@BradTheAmerican
@BradTheAmerican 11 күн бұрын
I wish that BioWare would have more faith in the player base, but they have seemingly fully embraced the idea of dumbing down the gameplay because they think players are too intimidated by the prospect of taking 2 seconds to think about things during combat.
@maxwellsterling
@maxwellsterling 9 күн бұрын
I really missed that one in Andromeda and Inquisition, where it would be so much better if I could actually do complex stuff without taking full control of characters just to launch a single attack.
@NerdyZanoth
@NerdyZanoth 12 күн бұрын
Hoping Dreadwolf is at least a slight improvement on Inquisition (which i really liked).
@terrymortal5517
@terrymortal5517 11 күн бұрын
Wait till you see that the whole party are just Trans dudes
@Ariescz
@Ariescz 8 күн бұрын
We shall see in few weeks. But I do not think it will, as apparently, the leaked stuff from year or so ago (or was it two years?) was true, and the game is very "action combat focused"
@legitplayin6977
@legitplayin6977 8 күн бұрын
If we can still drop kick people as a knight, it will already be 100 times better
@epic2owls
@epic2owls 7 күн бұрын
I understand your point on how the cinematic movement to all the planets with the ship is very cool, especially at first. Yet, I felt that by the mid-point of the game I was getting tired of having to wait 15 seconds every time I wanted to look at literally anything in a solar system, from planet to asteroid/wreckage. Though I will say, they did a good job at making the space travel feel like it really fits with the fact that there are no mass relays, even if there are a shit ton of solar systems and planets.
@KingPK
@KingPK 12 күн бұрын
I seriously couldn't think of a single character I actually liked in this game. I guess I kinda appreciated Drack being a grizzled old Krogan that doesn't give a shit about anything because it was a character trait in this game other than "quirky".
@Robolewa
@Robolewa 12 күн бұрын
For me it was drakk and, vetra i think her name was? The female turian. And that's probably in large part because I romanced her than her own honest merits. Not a great feeling, disliking or despising half the party members. Not even jokingly - Liam is an actually terrible person, Cora is annoying... and peebee, ugh, peebee. Jal was fine, but kinda carried as "the new alien guy".
@astralaris8712
@astralaris8712 12 күн бұрын
I liked the Salarian ship captain, no idea what his name was, but his dialogue was fun sometimes. I would like Drak if he was a romance and wouldnt 100% remind me of Wrex, Vetra was fine, but I couldnt care much more about the rest of them, no matter how much dialogue I heard from them or how much I took them on missions :/
@jakespacepiratee3740
@jakespacepiratee3740 12 күн бұрын
@@Robolewa the female Turian, Vetra, had cut “sex noises” for the romance scene 🥰
@PlebNC
@PlebNC 12 күн бұрын
Drack was excellent. Grumpy grampa who still has the strength to make sure you don't give him sh*t. We finally have the trilogy of Young Wrex (Grunt), Adult Wrex and Grampa Wrex (Drack).
@virraell2514
@virraell2514 12 күн бұрын
i loved Vetra but i am biased because she's a turian and i love every one of them
@LeuvahkTrigger
@LeuvahkTrigger 12 күн бұрын
That conversation around the 54:00 mark was so awkward that i didnt even blink when i got a mint mobile ad. They flowed into each other far too perfectly.
@sidhionoakbranch4871
@sidhionoakbranch4871 11 күн бұрын
The Quarian Geth conflict became a special interest of mine during my playthroughs of Mass Effect. Not only did they Quarians react impulsively when the Geth began showing signs of higher intelligence, but the Geth never resented them for it. They understood what it was that they feared. All this time, they never left the Quarian home planet, not out of some kind of offensive display of dominance towards the Quarians, but explicitly to take care of it until their creators came back home. What the Quarian historian *might* be referring to are the Heretics, the Geth that were manipulated into following Harbinger. You *could* make the argument that, since this expedition takes place between Mass Effect 2 and 3, the common consensus at the time was that the Geth were outwardly hostile towards all sentient life, at first simply assumed due to the Quarian's paranoia regarding the whole situation and later further established when encountering the Heretics as it was not known that the Geth and the Heretics were two very distinct factions.
@Xertaron.
@Xertaron. 12 күн бұрын
27:30 I wonder how many takes it took to say that sentence without laughing :D Companion roundup and the tierlist had me rolling and clown music during Liam and Peebee evaluation is perfect.
@ALLMINDmercenarysupportsystem
@ALLMINDmercenarysupportsystem 12 күн бұрын
50:41 Given that the information is from a Quarian, it would make sense to me that the information is just wrong due to the biased source. It certainly puts the Quarians in a better light than what really happened.
@Poosley
@Poosley 11 күн бұрын
Sure but, does the game actually explore that take in any good faith? lol come on man
@ALLMINDmercenarysupportsystem
@ALLMINDmercenarysupportsystem 11 күн бұрын
@@Poosley I'm not saying that's what the writers intended, just that it is a reasonable explanation and that it does make sense when viewed that way.
@Poosley
@Poosley 9 күн бұрын
@@ALLMINDmercenarysupportsystem sure it makes sense when viewed with an exceptionally favorable perspective that is not rooted in any kind of reality based on the actual body of work
@ALLMINDmercenarysupportsystem
@ALLMINDmercenarysupportsystem 9 күн бұрын
@Poosley What are you going on about? It just looks like you're here to argue with people who like Andromeda. In that case, go somewhere else, because I heavily dislike it. The potential idea which I pointed out is more than likely just bad writing seeing as nobody in game disputes it, but even then, it makes sense that nobody would. They went to the quarian because they didn't know what happened, so they couldn't argue. At this point though, the argument is too flimsy to put much weight on.
@medalwelder
@medalwelder 12 күн бұрын
Besides the story and all of the writing, I liked everything about Andromeda. The story and awful writing really killed it for me though. Crappy writing means crappy story and crappy characters, and in Mass Effect, that’s a cardinal sin.
@jamesr1371
@jamesr1371 11 күн бұрын
Agreed, the combat was great from what I remember (though I think I preferred the trilogys linear arenas), and let down by the crafting system craze of the time. I didn't mind the dodgy character models (or the glitches), but the story and writing was a big oof
@lasskinn474
@lasskinn474 7 күн бұрын
the combat was fine but what I didn't like is it being the same from start to finish. basically same enemies, same battle. only thing that differs is how op you got and how many waves basically.
@joeslickback
@joeslickback 7 күн бұрын
I can't watch that "Krogan" fight scene without hearing: "Oh No" x 10
@chubmastachan
@chubmastachan 12 күн бұрын
46:50 Whoa…okay, so…I’m calling HR…
@simonc586
@simonc586 12 күн бұрын
This was the last game I pre-ordered. Played it once on release, slogged my way through the last half, never touched it again. My face is still tired 7 years later.
@JJJBunney001
@JJJBunney001 12 күн бұрын
Same here, hadn't pre ordered anything since fable 3 and after this nothing since. And that was only because of the collectors edition only available through pre order
@saschaberger3212
@saschaberger3212 12 күн бұрын
Same. Crazy, the preorder killer
@KCCOmug
@KCCOmug 12 күн бұрын
I built a new computer in 2017 for this game and then bought Witcher 3. Enjoyed both. Good investment. But since then the only game I've ever pre-ordered two games I think.
@vonNachtmahr
@vonNachtmahr 12 күн бұрын
The same for me. And it took me so damn long to play through it. It was a real torture at times to struggle through it and keep playing. Mass Effect Andromeda is in many ways just... wrong. I have no idea what Bioware was thinking.
@guycopenstein1385
@guycopenstein1385 12 күн бұрын
I preordered watch_dogs 1 and made a vow never again
@BaeBunni
@BaeBunni 12 күн бұрын
Didn't hate andromeda, had fun playing it but I also paid like 5-6 bucks for it including tax so my experience isn't colored by poor optimization and a 60 dollar price tag on release.
@maverickslastoddworld6476
@maverickslastoddworld6476 11 күн бұрын
Same 😂
@johnschnatter2227
@johnschnatter2227 6 күн бұрын
Congrats on the baby, salt! I’m super happy with the videos you’ve been putting out as of a late. Have been watching your videos for a while now. Only thing I wish to get your input on whether replying to this comment or making a future video (i hope), would you ever make a video on Deathloop?
@SuspiciousKoala
@SuspiciousKoala 11 сағат бұрын
On the topic of them setting up stuff as sequel bait: a primary side mission has you investigating the deaths of the leadership. You end up discovering a whole conspiracy in which a mysterious benefactor funded the Initiative, then snuck along on the trip, was discovered by the head of the Initiative, then killed the head and framed it to be an accident. Huge mystery that was clearly meant to be explored by in the future games. Kinda like the original plans to explore the Quarian Ark and the (original) hints that said Ark would have encountered the start of the Reaper war.
@Macapta
@Macapta 12 күн бұрын
Wish they reverted to the infinite ammo/cooldown system from ME1. Just better flavour for the universe.
@KCCOmug
@KCCOmug 12 күн бұрын
You had that option in game with different types of weapons and weapon mods.
@rafabuda0
@rafabuda0 12 күн бұрын
Flavor isn't the only thing that matters. The gameplay (gunplay included) is the reason I only ever finished ME1 once and even then I had to push myself through it.
@Kris-wo4pj
@Kris-wo4pj 12 күн бұрын
I replayed all the mass effect games during lockdown cuz i never linked my shepards and also the collection came out. I will never play mass effect 1 again cuz of those shitty guns.
@MrRaznov
@MrRaznov 12 күн бұрын
@@rafabuda0 honestly i kinda like ME1's combat over the others? it feels much more military, slower, more tactical shooter. reminds me a bit of 360's rainbow six (though obviously more arcade), taking cover, poking out for a few shots and a grenade, back into cover again. the recharge didn't bother me because it fit very well with my "cover, snipe, cover" playstyle. In general i like that of ME1, that you can actually roleplay as a fucking professional, from then on you're too much "the hero" as opposed to "the trained, competent guy".
@k3salieri
@k3salieri 12 күн бұрын
Always wished that it had done a hybrid system. Thermal Clips that you can immediately eject and replace to keep on shooting. But if you're out of thermal clips you'll have to wait for a longer cooldown. Having a hybrid system like that makes it actually seem like a military improvement over going from unlimited ammo to limited ammo.
@spartanx9293
@spartanx9293 12 күн бұрын
1:41 Honestly that was probably a good idea as we've seen from no man's sky and starfield Procedurally generated planets are in fact very boring.
@slightlysaltysam7411
@slightlysaltysam7411 12 күн бұрын
It's set up to fail, really. It's not enough for the only point of the game to be exploring randomly generated environments. You need something to do in those environments. But if those things to do are also procedurally generated, then that means the entire game is basically procedurally generate and if that was possible to do in a fun way then there would be no need for human ingenuity and we just are not at that point yet. At some point in the creation process, a human needs to creatively and intentionally design the core parts of the game, not a computer.
@kw9849
@kw9849 12 күн бұрын
NMS' planets ended up being boring because they were afraid of players being inconvenienced, and neutered the generation parameters. This resulted in easily traversable planets...which also makes them very boring.
@PlebNC
@PlebNC 12 күн бұрын
​@@kw9849Which would also happen if Andromeda used it as they'd need to accommodate driving the Nomad around.
@aredjayc2858
@aredjayc2858 11 күн бұрын
Counterpoint HD2's planets are procedurally generated
@PlebNC
@PlebNC 11 күн бұрын
@@aredjayc2858 HD2's planets get dull too especially as most are just barren rocky planets.
@elijahpatterson3583
@elijahpatterson3583 12 күн бұрын
The phrase "like you couldn't mash pissers right now" genuinely pulled me out of what I was doing and made me cackle. You sir are hilarious.
@waynegilliam3805
@waynegilliam3805 9 күн бұрын
Awesome video and good luck on the baby bro. Always a fan and take as long as you need for these because there worth it
@FadedKai
@FadedKai 12 күн бұрын
To your final Bioware statement at the end, there is no recovery for them they are dead. The original Bioware members are all gone.
@jtn81x
@jtn81x 11 күн бұрын
Just like most of the former good studios, yet people will keep pre-ordering their dogshit like they are afraid the digital copies will run out. And enable them to keep releasing said dogshit.
@rphilipsgeekery4589
@rphilipsgeekery4589 11 күн бұрын
Yeah it's terminal, will probably get worse
@uomoafide6539
@uomoafide6539 10 күн бұрын
Honestly i feel lile new people should be given a chance to explore new IPs. It's not that they are incapable of producing good ME or DA products but maybe they should be given new venues to explore their own creativity. Don't know, perhaps i'm just huffing copium and the absolute failure of Anthem proves the point wrong. I'm just curious to see what New Bioware would be capable of if they were given enough freedom.
@jtn81x
@jtn81x 9 күн бұрын
@@uomoafide6539 new Bioware is a bunch of risk capitalists that don't care about games, they just want good return on their investments. There is maybe a 5% chance the next games in these series will be good, but whatever you do DO NOT PRE-ORDER. I repeat, do not pre-order. Pre-ordering is what enables them to keep releasing dogshit. They won't run out of digital copies, and you can live without this in game pet or this art book. Come on you are an adult.
@jimmym3352
@jimmym3352 7 күн бұрын
@@uomoafide6539 Dreadwolf could be good, but I don't have my hopes up. I expect it to be like Inquisition. Which wasn't bad, but wasn't that good either.
@peacemaster8117
@peacemaster8117 12 күн бұрын
I love these videos, they're so interesting and relaxing. It's really funny how you're clearly skipping a bunch of uninteresting content and yet the video is still nearly 3 hours long. It's excellent.
@smergthedargon8974
@smergthedargon8974 2 күн бұрын
2:02:07 New Tuchanka: ❌ Twochanka: ✅
@ElodieCunningham
@ElodieCunningham 12 күн бұрын
"mash pissers" is such a beautiful turn of phrase
@RebelNutts-gg1xf
@RebelNutts-gg1xf 12 күн бұрын
I knew you finally get to see this one its face is tired.
@Blazehoof
@Blazehoof 12 күн бұрын
I did enjoy Andromeda. I think it was a better game play experience than any other mass effect, but the story left a lot to be desired... Whit some more polish, it could have been way better then it was. It's a shame we never got the DLC for the missing ships...
@Raganui
@Raganui 12 күн бұрын
Andromeda running into all the issues it did, like the lead devs leaving Bioware and other things, it definitely needed to be pushed back and reviewed over from the start. But instead it got pushed harder to put out what was there, which isn't even a cohesive story. It's like, they had ideas and the barebones of a plot and then that got pushed as the final product without any passes to the segments to smooth them over, or even try to make them all fit well.
@dreyga2
@dreyga2 12 күн бұрын
nice try but no. esg killed it.
@carmenwillow7991
@carmenwillow7991 4 күн бұрын
My main complaint about this game was the character writing and dialogue. I felt like instead of the Normandy, we are now flying the Good Ship Lollipop filed with angsty, rebellious, and immature teenagers. When I finished Liam’s personal pirate quest, I have never wanted to blow someone out of the airlock so much in my entire gaming career as I did him! Peebe and he are children. My chief engineer, child. Who thought that civilians were all children and only military crews could be serious? Who thought this was the way to write these people?
@KeytarArgonian
@KeytarArgonian 12 күн бұрын
They admitted they went for ‘a CW feel’ for the writing of Andromeda. So, in a word, the answer is yes 😂 I’m so glad the next game is returning to its mature roots with Mary DeMarle as lead narrative director.
@tadferd4340
@tadferd4340 11 күн бұрын
CW?
@jtn81x
@jtn81x 11 күн бұрын
Just don't pre-order that thing. It will most likely be bad, and they won't run out of digital copies.
@BradTheAmerican
@BradTheAmerican 11 күн бұрын
@@tadferd4340 The CW is a tv network known for sappy and melodramatic teen drama, or at least that's the stereotype.
@Lampoluke
@Lampoluke 10 күн бұрын
CW like doesn't sound so bad, when did this game came out? Like 2013? Holy sh1t it's from 2017, that's peak cringe CW
@acev3521
@acev3521 9 күн бұрын
ME5 has confirmed andromeda elements I think it’s cooked
@dino3965
@dino3965 12 күн бұрын
I played me1 and 2 like 10 times each, and me3 3 times and still have never felt even remotely compelled to try this game even when its been on my gamepass for like 2 years now
@iamthehobo
@iamthehobo 6 күн бұрын
I was trying to figure out who the purple clad fuckboy was and when you get to them in the companion list, and with 30 minutes left in the video I realized that that is the main character
@loregaming3634
@loregaming3634 12 күн бұрын
So salt makes a video I normally watch his stuff in the morning but it looks like I'll be up a while
@haylee_savage
@haylee_savage 12 күн бұрын
I think I commented pretty much your exact thoughts on your ME3 video. That this game would have been a semi decent first entry to a new game series if it wasn’t Mass Effect (bugs/jank aside) And, this gameplay is what made me hopeful for Anthem. It had bones and was fun, but then they just shit the bed
@AbigatorM
@AbigatorM 12 күн бұрын
1:25:36 it indeed does. my dad was a irish specia lforces but trained in various countries and you become a honoury rank for that.
@Edax_Royeaux
@Edax_Royeaux 12 күн бұрын
I'm sure there's a limit to how Irish he can claim to be. Gerald Strickland is the CO of the Royal Gurkha Rifles, but it'd be pretty odd if he referred to himself as a Gorkha.
@marcinz.3570
@marcinz.3570 12 күн бұрын
Man I watched your Skyrim, Witcher and Jade Empire videos, and loved every second. Unfortunately I didn’t play any other games you reviewed. Hope you’ll do Witcher’s DLCs soon! May even do them separately, as they are both quite lengthy, especially the second one.
@Al-ny8dr
@Al-ny8dr 10 күн бұрын
Awesome video as always. Since we are on the topic of odd story lines, I would like to see you make a video about Wing Commander 5: Prophecy. To me, it was one of those stories that it was so bad, it was good. After every mission of Prophecy, it was like a frat party. It was so over the top. I'm still not sure how the pilots actually flew missions after that much drinking, but wow, was it silly. I also wanted to say thanks for the video for Andromeda. I never have to play the game. Double thanks for that.
@sarutobi4690
@sarutobi4690 12 күн бұрын
Yoooooo He Covered It been waiting all this time after all the Mass Effect Videos!!!
@MercuryAlphaInc
@MercuryAlphaInc 12 күн бұрын
Oh fuck, that Pillarmen moment caught me off guard. I thought that my alarm was going off randomly until you did the dramatic zoom-in with the song coming in fully.
@cannedcoochiebread
@cannedcoochiebread 7 күн бұрын
This game is like if Berserk decided to go all in on Puck's persona and everyone was just acting all silly and goofy. Idk if that analogy makes sense but the first 3 mass effect games just seemed so full of emotions and down to earth for the most, then this came along 💀
@KrimsonKracker
@KrimsonKracker 11 күн бұрын
27:49- The "oops, I crapped my pants" running animation resulting trying to change directions mid-run... 🤣
@Bundytf
@Bundytf 12 күн бұрын
Why does Salt sound like Zapp Branigan? Did he have a cold or something
@Itstwistedroots
@Itstwistedroots 12 күн бұрын
The tie-in book Nexus Uprising almost made me go back and give this game another shot.
@Sam-K
@Sam-K 2 күн бұрын
I'm surprised no one else has mentioned Nexus Uprising. I started with the game and didn't like it much, aside from the combat, which, in my opinion, is a major step-up from even Mass Effect 3. Since I'm a bookworm who's read all the tie-in novels of the original trilogy, I decided to give Nexus Uprising a shot. Frankly, I wasn't expecting much, but it didn't take me long to realize how well-written it was. Personally, I found Nexus Uprising to be almost as good as Halo: The Fall of Reach, the prequel to the original Halo that not only sets the lore for the Halo universe but also serves as an origin story for Master Chief.
@CaptaiinGuN
@CaptaiinGuN 12 күн бұрын
Praise the Lord, another Salt Factory video. I was just looking the other night to see if you had released a new one. Thank you so much!
@ThatReplyGuy
@ThatReplyGuy 10 күн бұрын
I picked this game up on Steam in a bundle with Inquisition for $8 and change with all DLC and everything, was quite the steal. I then proceeded to play the game with years of patches and bug fixes under its belt, and was pleasently surprised. I rather enjoyed it for what it was, and it wasn't that bad.
@Chevy64w
@Chevy64w 10 күн бұрын
All that special Ops training and your dad never learned to buddy breathe
@agroed
@agroed 10 күн бұрын
Andromeda isn't a terrible game, but when I ask the people who say they like Andromeda whether or not they've played the trilogy, 95% of the time the answer comes back 'no,' and I think that really sums it all up.
@jonyjonas
@jonyjonas 6 күн бұрын
I've played the trilogy. I started with Andromeda, then played the trilogy. Obviously the trilogy is better. But I can see the combat progression with each game. In fact, combat in Andromeda is the best, more fluid, you can jump, dash and even fly. Something that I can definitely see happening with biotics or a jetpack. Hell you can even be more biotic than in the whole trilogy by using a proper biotic shield with backlash.
@reshawnjim7146
@reshawnjim7146 4 күн бұрын
There also was a small attempt of an explanation to why some of the Milky Way colonists became violent, and the cryostasis procedure caused mental problems in some of the people upon re-emergence.
@Ryloc11
@Ryloc11 9 күн бұрын
I pre-ordered this game and took 3 day off to dedicate to it. Then I spent time to learn how to play sudoku ... ? Then I returned to work after completing this game on day 1 after 12 hours. Haven't touched it since. Now I might update it and give it another look. Thanks for the review. Amazing as usual.
@Rockstago
@Rockstago 10 күн бұрын
"Mass Effect Andromeda: Rise of the Feminists". Oh yeah, I remember this one.
@thenomad2311
@thenomad2311 Күн бұрын
100%
@horizon92lee
@horizon92lee 12 күн бұрын
Yes
@patrickmcgee1513
@patrickmcgee1513 10 күн бұрын
@TheSaltFactory Hey Salt, your videos helped me a lot when my wife and I had our baby back in early 2023 (nice to have a long video while I was up with the baby). Really happy for you and your wife! Welcome to the fatherhood club! Keep on crushing it, man.
@RedheadJack
@RedheadJack 12 күн бұрын
Unfortunately yes, yes it is
@happiness8512
@happiness8512 12 күн бұрын
Mass Effect: Andromeda was my first ever Mass Effect game, It may not stand-up to the Original Mass Effect Trilogy, but I will always love it for being the game that allowed me to get into the Original Trilogy, because without it I would have never played the first three games.
@scrpld7111
@scrpld7111 9 күн бұрын
but in reality you should have gotten better game than the earlier entries. well at least it made you play the other Mass Effect games. Which one is you favorite?
@happiness8512
@happiness8512 5 күн бұрын
@@scrpld7111 Mass Effect 2 is my favorite game. Grunt is the best character in the whole series IMO
@nighthowell
@nighthowell 10 күн бұрын
Mods can really save this game. I would say the mods I installed brought it from a 5 to a solid 8, maybe 8.5.
@NsABullitzZ
@NsABullitzZ 12 күн бұрын
I'd been hoping you'd cover this game. The other mass effect vids you did got me to play the remastered collection. And I pretty much jumped straight into Andromeda after that. I had a mixed time with this but there are some truly great things about this game. The exploration is super fluid and the way your character moves feels great for such giant maps. The graphics are genuinely incredible, especially the vaults. It just left a sour taste with how unfinished it felt towards the end. I think this direction of more exploration and lighter storylines could have worked, but I just hated how little impact the side missions actually have on the world. The angarans, doctor natalie dormer, reporter lady and the hub world in general all just seemed like half finished ideas. And it didnt help that there were almost no cutscenes outside the main story cast to help give more life to the NPCs.
@Mr.TamOShanter-em6jm
@Mr.TamOShanter-em6jm 12 күн бұрын
I pre-ordered this game at launch and can confirm that it deserved every bit of hate it got back then. The facial animations during conversations just looked like two goldfish gawping at one another. The other big issue, aside from it being broad appeal vanilla ice cream in the story department, was having to do not one, but TWO hard resets due to faulty autosaves and glitchy gameplay because loading the manual saves didn't fix the problem. There was one glitch where a vault door that was supposed to open just didn't so you got taken out by the smoke monster from Lost because the game forgot to open the exit.
@tytris203
@tytris203 12 күн бұрын
Personally, I feel like the gameplay was great. But it falls short on character and level design, as well as story and bland companions. Not to mention how ugly it looks.
@magnumopus8124
@magnumopus8124 11 күн бұрын
@44:59 lol! i wasn't expecting the "Shia LaBeouf" krogan to make an appearance in the video. i got a great laugh just thinking about that meme. 😆🤣
@Gamma5232
@Gamma5232 10 күн бұрын
27:52 almost made me spit my drink. I've been running down ramps wrong my whole life!
@StefanGlazer
@StefanGlazer 12 күн бұрын
Didn't even watch it yet. But I have tried to play through this game 10 times since the release. I get 40 hours in of doing... Things... And then stop. EVERY TIME. I have played the ME trilogy through so many times in my life. But this game. I just... I just can't. I can't do it. I CAN'T DO IT DAMNIT.
@jexar
@jexar 12 күн бұрын
Is your face tired?
@dbsensei7963
@dbsensei7963 12 күн бұрын
Literally the same
@jothain
@jothain 12 күн бұрын
I completed it. Imo it was actually decent experience as I knew how bad it was at launch and seen how badly title has been bashed. Masterpiece, absolutely not, but ok.
@mommyanddaddywerealiengods
@mommyanddaddywerealiengods 12 күн бұрын
Just use trainers/cheat tables to skip all the grindy and tedious stuff, I do this with a lot of games. Content padding sucks.
@KeytarArgonian
@KeytarArgonian 12 күн бұрын
Same problem!! I’ve tried about 4 times and every single time I’m just burnt out by the time I’ve 100% the first 2 planets. Never had this problem with any other game.
@chris.6349
@chris.6349 12 күн бұрын
Saltfactory is alive!? Let's go
@Whyavier
@Whyavier 9 күн бұрын
Your point on lack of impact is well made. I beat this game and yet the entire time I was watching this I couldn’t remember character traits, plot points, or even the major cutscenes. I did remember loathing Peebee though, that one’s a given.
@ajbeasley2771
@ajbeasley2771 3 күн бұрын
Btw from the lore videos I watched on this game the archon is solely obsessed with the tech and all the other kett are following because he’s the leader of the group and I think the archon wants to use the tech to terraform planets freely and force the races to flee and increase capture for making more kett but the only real evidence of this is one of the archon’s troops questioning him and his response being we need more kett which doesn’t give any real depth because it’s only mentioned once and very briefly
@archangel3
@archangel3 12 күн бұрын
Been waiting for this for years. You're a good guy, dude. Cheers to you and your family. :)
@garlottos
@garlottos 12 күн бұрын
I pre-ordered the legendary edition with the promise of all the DLCs. I guess I did receive all the DLCs in a way. Haven't pre-ordered a game since
@jtn81x
@jtn81x 11 күн бұрын
Good. Pre-ordering is what enables companies to release this kind of dogshit and call it a day.
@nanaaddae4790
@nanaaddae4790 12 күн бұрын
I love your retrospectives, commentating, and writing style. Your videos are also perfect for listening to when I'm doing work! Thanks for everything you do.
@TheThasadar
@TheThasadar 12 күн бұрын
1:27:45 she also is an Asari commando.
@DavidHutchison-ig6bk
@DavidHutchison-ig6bk 12 күн бұрын
Perfect timing for my bike ride
@JibrilClips
@JibrilClips 12 күн бұрын
You must be the other twin Bike Ryder
@DavidHutchison-ig6bk
@DavidHutchison-ig6bk 12 күн бұрын
@@JibrilClips the what?
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