I NEEDED to STOP Using Google Drive: Switching to a NAS

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Since I started making KZbin videos I’ve slowly accumulated so many storage devices, with bits and pieces of every content I’ve ever made scattered across so many drives that I don’t know what to do with them. So, I came to the conclusion that I needed something to better manage all of the digital junk I was generating, I needed a NAS.
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Timestamps:
0:00 Intro
0:55 What is a NAS?
3:40 Sponsor: Karma
4:45 Why I need a Nas
6:51 What NAS I Picked
8:36 Setup
10:25 Experience Using it
11:25 Conclusion
A Network Attached Storage device, or NAS for short, is kind of self explanatory, it’s storage that can be accessed over your home network, or even away from home with the right setup. Imagine it like your own personal Google Drive or dropbox. All a nas really is, is a computer with a bunch of hard drives, and a different operating system than your usual windows, or Mac OS. A NAS is much more customizable, than Google Drive or Dropbox. You can control how fast it can potentially be by the connection type between the NAS and your computer, or your wi-fi signal if wireless, you can control how much storage the machine has, by buying a new hdd and slotting it in, and you can do so much more, since a NAS is basically a computer with special software installed. There is a ton of functionality built into these boxes that if I were to go through every little detail it would be a 24-hour long video that I would not be qualified enough to talk about. Downside is, just like everything you own, It’s at your own expense.
So why didn’t I just buy a larger HDD? They can be pretty cheap per TB if you buy some of the larger ones. And that’s 100% true, I could just buy this 20TB hard drive, and use that until it fills up and then buy another one. But my problem isn’t just finding a place to store all of my previous content. I edit off of an external 2TB SSD, because a youtube video project can be 100-200GBs sometimes, and the performance of the SSD is fast. And with the SSD, I can unplug it and connect it to any other computer and continue editing the project. When it fully fills up, I wipe it and start over, losing all of my precious raw footage. The reason this is bad is because, if I want to rely on using old clips I took 30 videos ago, I’d have to use only what’s been kept in the finished video or reshoot that clip all together. A central storage device makes it fast and easy to access old footage that I can reuse in a new video. I also don’t store my video projects on the computers I edit with because our editing machines don’t have 4-5tbs of space.
I decided on the pre-built route and purchased the Synology DiskStation DS1821+. Once you have the NAS, you basically have a computer that’s missing hard drives. So, I bought 4 4tb Seagate Ironwolfs, and 2 WD Red Plus 6TB HDDs later. Basically, these types of hard drives do better in a NAS than regular hard drives doYou can upgrade a NAS just like a PC, I purchased a 16GB stick of ram, and a 10gigabit ethernet card and installed it in the synology NAS to further enhance its capabilities and transfer speeds. For this build I’m using SHR, which is a synology-specific one. It allows me to use drives of different sizes, but the largest one will be used for parity, which in this case, means I lose 6TB of storage. But, if one of my six drives fails, I will still have all my data.
The NAS has now become an important part of my home. I can access everything on it from all my phones, tablets, and computers from home or when I’m away. When I’m at home, it’s stupid fast, SSD-like. This NAS actually has usb ports on it, so I plugged in some external drives into the usb ports, and the Synology NAS treats it like how other computers would treat it. But now, every computer on your network can access it. I use these as backups for specific folders on the NAS. So this NAS fits all of my requirements, and it even satisfied the last one. The NAS has opened up what I can do. I can upload footage from my Macbook, then edit off the iMac, then export from the Mac Studio, for upload from any machine. What the NAS has become, is fast, shared storage across all of my machines.

[@ScottCarrPhoto]

Don't forget...a NAS is not backup. It's storage. Remember to backup all your data.

[@danielkaranja7978]

Correct. In this video, it is presented as a replacement for Google drive while in fact, the two are more complementary.

[@epmcgee]

@@danielkaranja7978 depends on your use case and how you want to back your data up. It's possible to meet all the criteria for good backup practices and avoid online storage services altogether. The video also puts this forward as something private that you don't have to pay a service fee for.

[@MassStash]

Rule of 3

[@ernie548]

Nah, with good hardware raid you're pretty secure. I've worked at Cisco, yahoo, Google, others managing servers for many decades. We *rarely* need to restore something. Only if you are wishing to keep more than one revision.

[@epmcgee]

@@ernie548 it's not specifically for data failure. There are other reasons to keep a backup.

[@Lardzor]

I'm impressed how fluidly you swap between NOZ and NAZ pronunciations of NAS. I normally hear it pronounced NAS as in (nasty).

[@silentblackhole]

That's the correct way. The way he's saying it is horrible

[@_jerieljan]

I hope you have your security set up correctly if you’re planning to use your NAS anywhere. It’s another rabbit hole that takes time to understand for newbies, but it’s essential. Thankfully, Synology’s recommendations are actually pretty OK as long as you follow the practices, port forward responsibly and minimize port openings on your network, but it’s even better if you can complement it with a Wireguard-based VPN.

[@ryanmiller6887]

Jimmy you bought a DS1821+, the 18 means you can have up to 18 drives. the unit holds 8 drives and you can get 2 more 5 bay addons that plug into your NAS by the eSata plugs in the back.

[@insomnia20422]

He just bought the most expensive one and made the most beginner mistakes like using different sized drives. He uses the 6TB one for pariety which means his two 6TB drives are effectively one. If he bought two 4TB instead he would have only 2TB less storage and way more flexible in RAID configurations and even saves a few bucks.

[@Lordsheva80]

@@insomnia20422 that’s because he did not buy anything this is a product placement otherwise one should know what’s buying.

[@captiveimage]

Great intro into the NAS world, Jimmy. Like your style of delivery too. Subscribed! 🙂 I have two Synology NAS drives: A DS412+ that I bought in 2015 and a DS920+ that I bought a couple of weeks ago. My main reasource hog is my photography. Storing the digital images, initially scanned negatives and more recently the digital RAW files fresh from the camera was becoming problematic, hence the initial purchase. I've had a NAS box longer then that, but where the Synology DS412+ has proven to be incredibly reliable over the past seven years, my previous no-name brick failed catastrophicaly after only a couple of years and cost me a fortune to have a professional data-recovery firm rebuild the RAID and recover the data. I bought the second NAS (DS920+) a couple of weeks ago beause I thought my DS420+ was failing, but the actual problem was becasue I inadvertantly 'hot-swapped' a failing drive. DOH! I didn't loose any data but the NAS was two, three times a day giving me error messages that where similar to the broken drive I swapped out, hence my believing that the NAS itself was broken. Having bought a second device, however, swapping all the data from the old to the new without issue, I subsequently undertook a factory-reset on the the old unit, which fixed the percieved problem. It's now working perfectly again. The DS412+ is now one of two local backups for the DS920+, where the other is a seperate USB external HDD 'brick'. I use IDrive, an online cloud service dedicated to backup regimes, for my offsite backup. Ove the last seven years, I've had three drive failures Total losses of info - zero! Lessons learned: A) Don't cheap-out and buy no-name kit for your pressios data. It's not worth it. If you have precious data then buy decent kit with a reputation. There's two or three key players in this space, so there's alternatives. B) Do invest (time/effort/money) in instigating a proper backup routine. Use the 3-2-1 backup: 3: Create one primary backup and two copies of your data. 2: Save your backups to two different types of media. 1: Keep at least one backup file offsite. C) Don't hot-swap drives in a NAS that's not designed to offer that facility! Mine don't but some NAS units will allow hot-swapping of drives, so check that out if it's an important feature for you.

[@azwb]

Thank your for sharing.

[@SirRoxo]

Wonderful video explaining it all. I'm new to NAS, just bought a used 2-bay unit and experimenting from there. Pretty excited to see how it'll work out.

[@Unamatrix01]

Great video on the benefits of using a NAS. I have been using a NAS since the first consumer level devices were released in the early 2000s by Ximeta called the Net Disk. I currently use the Synology DS218 Play+, WD PR210 Pro, D-Link DNS 320L and D-Link DNS-340L. Furthermore, I use my NAS servers to store my engineering designs, music collection, movie collection along with photos from my drones and cameras.

[@wtf-worldtravelfoodie2382]

Best explained among all the other channels I've watched. Its like you specifially answered all my questions I had in mind. Earned a new subscriber here!

[@sunayama4650]

So this video was a wake up call. I'm starting up my own KZbin channel fairly soon (3D modeling tutorials). I thought about what I might teach and my target audience. Not once did I think about storage! I already use up a lot of storage space as is. Not sure if I'd need a NAS quite yet, but it's definitely on my radar now. Thanks, Jim!

[@manavgala2361]

You a max user or blender?

[@sunayama4650]

@@manavgala2361 Blender and Maya, but I prefer Blender.

[@notreallyme425]

You can get a smaller Synology like a DS920+ (soon to be the Ds922+) I use one as a home user and a tinkerer. I filled mine with four 2TB drives for enough space vs cost.

[@ProjectileGrommet]

@@notreallyme425 my 920+ fuckin rocks

[@ProjectileGrommet]

Can’t wait for the tutorials

[@uniworkhorse]

Love how concise and well written this video was, props!

[@ShaneMcGrath.]

You made the same blunder I did with first NAS, NEVER go cheap on HDD capacity, harder to upgrade later on. I went with 3x8TB and added another 2x8TB a year later to fill 5 bay NAS, Still filled them had the NAS 3 years now. I should have bit the bullet and gone with 3x 16TB to start with and added the rest later, I would still have a few years of storage rather than now being full.

[@mikec2845]

if you don't mind me asking, what are you storing to fill that quickly?

[@watema3381]

@@mikec2845 That's kind of like asking what type of people you have hidden in your basement. A bit personal don't you think?

[@mikec2845]

@@watema3381 I think I prefaced myself well. No one is forcing him to reveal his deepest secrets. "I'm a professional photographer"...?

[@colbyboucher6391]

This is why I generally prefer UnRAID. Way it works is just: -Have a parity disk as large as the biggest disk in your array (or two) -Have something quick to use as a big storage cache for the entire thing (an SSD). Otherwise, you can grab whatever hard drive you want and it'll just work. One parity disk, you can survive one drive failure. Two parity disks, you can survive two. Always back up everything important and keep a spare drive lying around in case one fails. End result is easily expandable storage and a server you can also use for other stuff through Docker images and VMs, potentially. Plus, the lack of proprietary Synology stuff means it's easy to replace other parts.

[@colbyboucher6391]

@@mikec2845 Some people store tons of movies n' shit, keep all their games on there so they can grab them more quickly than downloading them from Steam again, etc. But yeah, I still don't get how you'd manage to use up more than *16 TB* of space unless you're storing tons of raw video footage.

[@gjforeman]

As a lifetime geek and lover of all tech toys, I've wanted a NAS for years. Now at 71, with a few extra bucks from the sale of a family property, I took the leap and got a Synology DS1821+ this week. Still waiting on my 6 10Tb disks, but I set it up in test fashion with a pile of old castoff drives from my hoarding closet. Working as a field service engineer for 40 years, I had some networking experience, but retiring 10 years ago has faded a lot of that knowledge. Currently working my way thru some old Network+ manuals from 15 years back, and plowing thru stone age concepts like NetBEUI, IPX/SPX, etc. But the basics are coming back to me. Planning to use this NAS to store lifetimes of scanned and digital photos, family documents, my CNC and 3D printer files,and my wife's massive hoard of digital sewing, embroidery, and quilting files. Also reserving the two remaining NAS drive bays for Synology's Surveillance Station. Sad commentary on modern life that I plan to outfit my front yard like a video studio. Thanks for a great video. I may just show it to family members who keep asking, "whats that black box on the desk for?"

[@jasc4364]

Only 10TB disks? There is one mistake I made when I started using NAS: buying too small disks. The 2 last disks I bought are 22TB disks. I always underestimated my ‘needs’.

[@hatuhsawl]

I’ve been toying with getting one of these bad boys, thanks for this!

[@nadtz]

I'm a tinkerer so I built my own and went with Truenas but I have installed Synology/Qnap stuff for clients who don't mind paying extra for the ease of use. I'm a ZFS guy so that was important for me but for the 'average' user these are solid, just don't buy used unless you are willing to forgo warranty.

[@bothworld2020]

great choice. I'm using this since 10+ years 2 Bay & 5 Bay Synology also I've sold 200+ Synology NAS. Some tips 01. Please don't forget spare hard disk 02. UPS in the event blackout 03. Buy plus series model & extend 2 years Warranty (Total 5 Years Warranty) 04. Don't forget 2FA for security reason (Two Factor Authentication)

[@ShaneMcGrath.]

UPS is a must for a NAS, Just need one big enough to enable an auto shutdown if there is a power blackout, Don't need a really expensive one. Get one that gives you at least a few minutes worth so the HDD's can spin down and turn off the NAS, Otherwise you could lose all your data.

[@cdwoods365]

Third video I've seen of yours and all today. I'm loving the content! Thanks for this. I've been on the fence about getting a NAS, you sold me. Thanks again Jimmy.

[@neutrinolinux]

Exceeeeept... if your house burns down or floods or gets burglarized, and they take your NAS, so much for that. Always keep an offsite backup!

[@insomnia20422]

XD sure...

[@CGRealStudios]

Or if he was to work from somewhere else

[@jamesminturn9866]

I am in the process of getting a Synology DS418 set up for at home use. This was a great video! I would love to see a video on the apps you have installed to allow for remote access.

[@Ghostsider22]

I love Synology been using it for some years now, had a WD NAS and wasnt the best for my Plex needs. I only use Plex with my NAS and mostly all the movies/shows are ones I own but I do still setup a backup for them in case of failure. I do love Sylology's SHR and found it better then the other options.

[@Byteable]

Even though i have unlimited storage on Google Drive (grandfather plan), I still use a NAS for daily storage access like video editing because it’s much faster than Google Drive when I’m local. For backup and access outside of my home, I use Google Drive that sync up with my NAS.

[@techster69]

is there an unlimited option? what does it cost?

[@carlosrincon6017]

Right now I find myself in the same situation of you at the beginning of the video. A small army of external drives driving me crazy. Now planning to transition to NAS. The video is very informative and didactic on that issue. Thanks for the advice, liked and subscribed, and btw, your girlfriend is very pretty.

[@PitboyHarmony1]

The one thing not mentioned ... a NAS is NOT a backup. Its a primary file storage and use system, parity is not an actual backup. If something ... anything goes wrong with the unit or the area the unit is sitting in ... you have no other version of your files, which is a complete fail as a definition of a backup. Many approach this in different ways; - The front USB (or rear) of most NAS devices are for plugging in an external storage device to back up mission critical files occasionally. It depends on the size of the backup for someone like Jimmys usage. Either a truly massive backup drive (20+Tb) in an external enclosure, so he can backup RAW files, or a smaller drive (4 or 8Tb) in that enclosure to just backup finished video projects. Synology's system has settings just for all this. Or instead of an auto backup function, you can set it up so all you do is plug in this external (once a week or whatever) into the front USB, and it auto copies over any changes to desired folders you want backed up. - As a further step, truly ultimate critical mission files (agreements, taxes, paperwork ... or even a full copy of that external drive) can further be backed up automatically to Google drive, dropbox or any cloud service from the NAS directly. NOW you have a true backup system: a NAS for file system parity protection, an external drive on site to protect the NAS in case of complete NAS system loss, and an offsite backup of that, in case of a Satellite crashing into your house or a fire. Just make sure you memorise your cloud server user and password. People really need to understand that a NAS is NOT a backup. No real backup can be in the same box all together, the inherent risk is too large. One small glitch and everything is gone, thats not a backup.

[@goldcd]

Completely agree Although I'm not sure I'd be too happy relying on just a USB drive plugged into the NAS - if the NAS can write to that drive, then it has the ability to trash it - it's part of the NAS (I'm thinking of malicious stuff like QLocker).

[@techforever1970]

What if you have your NAS setup as SHR-2, for example, in cases of Synology? You have 4 drives but can only utilise 2 of them and the other 2 are a backup of the first 2. In that case would you consider a NAS a backup solution? In addition, if you have like 40TB of data, there's no feasible way to "backup" your data on your NAS, instead of buying like 20x 2TB T5 SSDs, or paying upwards of $500USD a month for Google Drive, which completely negates the need for a NAS in the first place (Most people get a NAS to save money on cloud storage), and the time required to backup 40TB to the cloud is just insane (it'll probably take weeks if not months with internet connections in some places). With RAID and SHR, I would consider a NAS a backup. Curious to hear what your thoughts on this are.

[@rogermuggleton8127]

@@techforever1970 OK then, you set up as SHR-2. Then someone breaks in and steals your NAS, or you have a lightning strike that fries it, or a water leak that drowns it. Or a fire, or a fault that destroys the drives. Ideally you need more than one backup, including one that's off-site, in a secure location. So if your main building burns down, you still have the off-site backup. Of course you need to be sure that the off-site backup is up-to-date and intact, and that takes a lot of work. Backup isn't easy, especially with 40TB of wanted data!

[@garrykanter5773]

Nice video. What a great time this is that NAS and DropBox are available for people with all kinds of needs.

[@martouf13]

I have the Synology 1019+ 5-bay with 5 WD 8TB Red drives in SHR-1. Then I use hyperbackup with an external 20TB drive to keep an additional backup. I don't keep all data offsite like I should but what I have is good enough for me. I highly recommend Synology. Its very easy to setup and use and you can do a lot with it.

[@suitcafe]

I am A Synology geek. Set up an 8 bay for a relatives photography studio about 6 years ago. Knew nothing about them and did it as a hobby. The system came out great with photographers logging in via FTP and wedding video serving on large screens in studio to show prospective clients.

[@paulcurtis2779]

Hey, a NAS is very valuable for more than just Dollar value. I manage a facility that has 2 NAS's and 54 cameras connected to it. Just amazing how capable the NAS is for storing 30 and 90 day backup of all those cameras. Not difficult to use but does require some Tech knowledge. There are many features that can be added that this facility isn't using. Crazy stuff. Now I'm thinking about getting a 6 bay unit for my house. Just need to cough up a couple grand for all the equipment, drives and UPS. .

[@vercolit]

I highly recommend using an old laptop or an unused/cheap one and install debian (or any other distro tbh) if you're starting out. It will teach you a lot, and it will make it obvious that servers are not "basically" computers, they are computers. You can do literally anything you want with it. NAS are great, don't get me wrong, but owning and managing your own little server is extremely rewarding and simpler that it looks like (you have to be open to learning new things though). It's a fun rabbit holw to fall into, as you can always make it more stable, more efficient, more deployable (if you care about that). Also, I highly recommend not installing any graphical environment and managing the server via ssh. But like any computer, you can do exactly what you want, and I find it a very enjoyable exerience

[@burnedmozzarella]

i myself have old celeron laptop that useless for years, i installed fedora on it and then install docker, smb, ftp, ssh, and many more stuff. hell, it so useful that i can host my own content, do downloads, makes it as bluetooth speakers and many more! and i use Nextcloud, Jellyfin for the frontend, and deploys it via docker

[@m.g2944]

I have the DS918+. After using it for the past few years I can honestly say it is one of the best purchases that I have made. I use it mainly for streaming movies with plex throughout the house and of course backup for other media. I have it connected directly to the router. With the combination on Nvidia Shield boxes in each room and great gigabit speed there are few things that I can't do. At this time, I am ready for the available expansion bay as I am running out of room. Here is a tip. The NAS will use the smallest capacity hard drive as the largest available. So, if you start off with a 4 terabyte and add a 6 terabyte next the NAS will use the 4 as the maximum space available if you are using Synology default backup option. Now almost 5 years later I am finally replacing the smallest drive to a bigger one to get the space that has been there all these years. In short, I have all 4 bays filled three have the same size drive and one has a smaller one. After replacing the smallest, drive I will finally have the full capacity of the drives I have put in. One last tip. If you are streaming movies over your network, make sure your HDMI cables going from the media box such as Shield are current meaning they are able to stream at least 4K video. Doing this will help fix any problems with streaming and audio/ video voice synchronizations. I thought this was the internet speed for a long time even the TV being super old (plasma), but it was not. Check your cables. Don't go to cheap and you will enjoy your NAS a lot more. Synology has a great website check it out before making any purchases decisions.

[@NitroDragon]

I have an 80TB Unraid NAS mainly for Plex and local computer backup storage. Currently 67.2TB used with a 14TB parity drive and 1x 14TB, 3x 10TB, 3x 8TB, and 2x 6TB drives for the data array.

[@strikidbeast]

Jimmy, thank for the video. Have you tried your Synology for storing photos and using their Photo app?

[@keysncoffee7733]

Okay we have too many coincidences. I was setting up my new home office last time when I found your video of you doing yours. And I literally just bought a Synology setup last week too! 😂

[@JasonMeeks79]

I just got a buffalo 4 bay NAS off a sale site. Put in the 4 - 4tb iron wolf drives. Love it. One cool feature it has , not sure how others go about it, but buffalo's phone app allows my phone to back up to it, so all photos, videos, downloaded documents backup nightly to it. That's kinda big since they have been removing micro SD cards from phones.

[@WallaceRoseVincent]

If this is a commercial to sell me something ... it's still good. Thanks. I needed this.

[@dhailstones]

Thank you very much for this share, you did great covered all the best areas. Quick question - the machine is running 24 hours a day so is it loud and does it get hot?

[@erickabuthia3213]

This is absolutely brilliant. I don't remember the last time I watched a video from beginning to end. You are the lecturer I wish I had. Hehehe!

[@bravotwozero535]

These are going to be essential for those travelling internationally. Border agents can take an image of any device you’re travelling with so it’s best to keep your data elsewhere and secure.

[@the5gen]

I've got a QNAP 4-bay, I use that as my primary file storage and use Google Drive to backup some important files from the NAS.

[@davidlp6510]

It would be nice if you could describe your Synology box in detail. It seems that you added a 10G card to it. I'd love to hear about it.

[@tirosc]

The pronunciation changes of "NAS" in this video is wild

[@thomasbriggs4718]

I had an older NAS and a ds918+. The old NAS died so I added a Synology expansion box. Now I have 2 volumes that are mirrors. Even if one unit dies I will still have all my data. I did have an issue with the power supply for the ds918+. Synology support replaced the whole device. They earned my trust.

[@musicelect]

I have a bunch of drives in some QNAP boxes all connected directly to my computer through a USB hub. Good for storage and can even handle playback. The best part is Backblaze will back it up for $7/month or $70/year. I currently have 50 TB backed up. You can’t do that with NAS because its not directly attached storage (DAS). Backblaze would charge over $3k/year for the same amount of storage when using a NAS.

[@Futurebloodline2010]

Nice karma transition plug. Smooth n short

[@machdaddy6451]

Very thorough explanation. I just wished you would've shown the installation and configuration.

[@radoo86]

Very good video, what 10GB switch do you use?

[@ZacchaeusNifong]

Awesome review brother! Subbed!

[@nikhilmankars5994]

Thank you for creating this. very informative video. Can you please suggest which brand is reliable for concealed wiring for certified CAT8 or CAT 7 cables? Scenario- I want to connect my NAS with CAT7 or CAT 8 ethernet cable to my deco mesh router which has a 10G port, also connect this router to my computer with the ethernet cable for faster access. I have already purchased CAT 8 ports for all access points including walls. I ordered FEEDUS CAT7 and CAT8 cables from amazon but it stopped working within 7 months. Now I am routing concealed cable through walls, hence looking for a reliable cable brand.

[@roadmonitoroz]

Looks like a nice toy. I've got a 4 bay here which I've had for years. I actually also own 14 - 16 (lost count) external hard drives but most of the data on there isn't needed anymore. I keep the useful stuff on the NAS for easy access. Of course you change the default username and put a strong password to keep it safe. Even my PC doesn't know the password. I have to type it in every time (makes it hard for a compromised machine to then access the NAS) It's good to also back it up on an external HDD incase the NAS goes down (even in raid things can go wrong)

[@smitty9398]

I have a Synology four bay.. and I use a Synology two bay as backup. Synology has really good software that I have running at night to replicate from my main NAS to my backup NAS.

[@DanielAbernathy]

Did you have to upgrade any of your home networking setup to take advantage of the 10Gbps connection?

[@ortizcruzenterprise]

thank you jimmy im thinking of doing the same thing

[@NildoE]

hi... what 10Gbe switch do you have?

[@jgirizarry]

I have a Synology RS819 rack mount with 4 4tbs Iron wolf in a RAID5. I do backup the NAS, using HYPER BACKUP every night and pay Synology C2 Cloud space as a secondary backup. My photos and docs are priceless to me and I can’t risky it. I run PLEX with my music and Movies, use Synology Drive, Synology Photos. Best purchase…

[@CreamPolo]

Got 16118+ and I do agreed with your take on NAS. Thank You

[@HydraulicDesign]

Now I have a different situation. I've had a NAS for ages for backups, I don't have so much data or so many users I want to actually WORK off of one. But I'm increasingly wanting online access and collaboration, so that means...moving everything to Google Drive or OneDrive? Then paying for some sort of backup-of-cloud-services-backup that's also on the cloud? And the NAS is obsolete?

[@prettiwensmyling]

I counted 54 “NAS“ mentions (singular & plural) & once unabbreviated. So 55? 🤓

[@AsyrafAkira]

Honest question, if you install games / program in nas and use it as external hard drive, is it possible to run it? Not via ethernet but USB port that available on the nas itself

[@davidholder2100]

Great video thanks

[@simtsa]

I recently bought one nas from qnap with 2 bays, I bought it because I have 2 cases that make me to do it. First the google drive they asking money for something that it was free before and I think that is not fare, and second because one colage recently his ssd faild at his work computer and it was dissaster. So I set it and the process it was very easy for someone that has some knolage. My use is to autobakcup my work pc and personal pc's plus my photos from my mobile and also my systers and recently I found out that I can use it for camera recording for close security system for you house.

[@asdkant]

Being a linux user with a single machine I just did a ZFS array on the same box, but for a dedicated machine on the DIY route I'd recommend TrueNAS as the operating system. Anything less than ZFS as the filesystem is silly nowadays, given how reliable it is.

[@JimmyTriesWorld]

Nice to hear some good experiences with TrueNAS. I got an older PC laying around that could definitely use that kind treatment in the future!

[@JanJanuszNosacz]

Great review!

[@CheDeLila]

@Jimmy Tries World ds620slim is the only ssd oriented that I have seen and I wanted to move to synology is it any option from them that I haven't found? mechanical hard drives are not an option, neither non synology.

[@mandrue73]

If I have a NAS plugged into ethernet, and my pc is plugged into a separate ethernet outlet in the same house, do I then have direct connection to the NAS storage from my pc or do I need to connect them alternatively? I'm thinking about getting one, and was just wondering how that works :D

[@LimbaZero]

I have 2 QNAP. one is for mainly "work" nas and another is for daily backups from it with version history. Raid is not backup. I think I need to do offsite backup for important data

[@marylorenzo1904]

I am an average person looking to learn and storage is definitely important. Thank you for the video.

[@archangelgabriel5316]

I get 2.2GB/s using direct connect from 10Gbe on Synology to 10Gbe Nic installed on PC. Jumbo frames and separate subnet for the win.

[@Mr.BobsDog]

Google photos is such a breeze to find any photo you're searching for though by keyword

[@chrispage3803]

I have an old DS213j. with 2x 2TB WD BLACK. A month or so ago I had my first drive give me a SMART failure. Since then I have been looking to replace the unit. I am waiting for the 2022/2023 models to come out. When they do I'll likely grab a DS222+ or a DS422. When I do this however I think I'd like to add a Switch to my network. I currently have just my ISP (Bell HH 3000) wireless router and Mesh network with TP Deco units feeding my home. 10Gbe would be Overkill in my home but if 2.5Gbe and 5Gbe prices don't come down closer to the 1Gbe prices soon, It just seems like getting the 10Gbe might be the way to go to future proof everything. only problem is Synology will not have 10GBe... if we're lucky they MIGHT have the 2.5Gbe or multiple 1Gbe ports so that I can double speed. That all being said knowing best practices for a switch, ISP router, NAS with more than one port and a MESH network is going to be a project and a half for me. What Switch do you use?

[@MillionMileDrive]

I went with the non beginner route... bought an old Dell 24 bay server for a couple hundred bux, bought new drives and installed Truenas. Not for those who don't have a place to install it. It's a loud bugger

[@nadtz]

Heh, I have a 1u 12 disk server, those 40mm fans do indeed get loud when they ramp up but nothing like a dell which sounds like a jet taking off.

[@Faizaan_H]

Hey Jimmy now that you have a NAS could you do a video on setting up and your experience with Plex?

[@joshuavega4563]

one question, what happens if you were transferring a file from another hard drive then suddenly lose power like a blackout, will it get corrupted? 😬

[@kennyherrington6542]

Always invest in a good UPS to ensure this scenario doesn’t occur.

[@ernie548]

NAS is a valid as single version/revision backup if it's using hardware RAID underneath. With good hardware raid you're pretty secure. I've worked at Cisco, yahoo, others managing servers for many decades. We *rarely* need to restore something from *backup*. Only if you are wishing to keep more than one revision, and even file level snapshots (classic NetApp style) can easily hold many short term revisions.

[@colbyboucher6391]

It should be noted that most consumer-grade RAID controllers SUCK. Not as much as the "hardware RAID" on some motherboards, but still. Your best options on a home PC are actually Linux's kernel RAID, ZFS or UnRAID.

[@tedcalouri2694]

The cost effective nature of a home NAS depends on some additional factors you didn't cover. When you connect a power meter, how much power does it consume? Do you live in a cooler climate where the extra heat generated is a positive result or do you live in an area where the heat pushes your air conditioner? I decided against a home NAS precisely because the always on convenience meant constant power consumption as well as more heat to deal with in the warmer months.

[@ShaneMcGrath.]

NAS uses little power, They aren't gaming rigs! Heat is a non issue, Once again they aren't like gaming pc's, It's why they use very low power processors for efficiency.

[@colbyboucher6391]

@@ShaneMcGrath. Also, modern GPUs are pretty good at not expending much power when they're idle.

[@francoisgs1]

will you have a step by step set up , got a DS200J and dont believe i did set up properly . thanks :)

[@aalluubbaa]

What if my main use case it to be able to stream 4k videos from a NAS? Google photo is so slow for videos and it sucks that most mid to high end smartphones can shoot great 4k videos but when you want to view it on your TV or projector, it's 720p and looks like webcam footage from 2000s. Is there a solution for this? I just want to stream my videos in 4k real time.

[@jblev736]

5:45 Curious as to why you wouldn't have transferred that SSD to an external HDD once the project is done? That way you saved the raw data and you can clear off your ssd

[@DiegoArquieta]

So, instead of erasing that "junk data" as you mentioned, you prefer to spend money keeping it there collecting digital dust?

[@ognickea7180]

The joy of tech tube showing me stuff I didn’t know I need.

[@gager73]

Anybody know how Drobo stacks up against Synolog (or QNap)? I've been using Drobo for over the past 15 years and as much as I would love to say I like them, I really can't tell you the last time I thought about them except for when I noticed that I was running out of space and needed to upgrade a drive. Which was as easy as pulling the smallest drive out and slapping in a newer bigger drive.

[@bridiemacdonald9436]

Great video!

[@MCbrothers35]

Google Drive or other Cloud Storage Services are more for share files with other and fast up and download speeds. Your Nas is limited to your internet provider speeds for online connection over nextcloud, owncloud etc.

[@MCbrothers35]

I have both a Nas for data that changes not so often and is not needed to be shared, like word sheets, prasentation files etc.

[@mrsahilbawa]

I like how you were touching the NAS 😂😂😂

[@vignesh306]

I was worried if it's gonna be turned on

[@Babyboomer_59]

Hi Jimmy, I don't know if this is your area of expertise, I kind of wish I had found our video before making my purchase, anyway I just purchased the WD 12TB My Cloud EX2 Ultra Network Attached Storage - NAS through Amazon, only it's just a two disk housing at the price of $449. which I just looked is now $529 (I got lucky). The type of data is just normal home use, pst, file that all pc's can access via outlook, stuff like that. I can only hope I made the right choice. Speaking of data access speed, I always thought a usb 3.0 connection was faster than an ethernet connection but viewing your video and your test, that's not the case.

[@TheForgottenWolf]

Weigh your options. NAS equipment can be expensive and as others have said is not a backup option, it's storage (Depending on the settings - Enabling backup will cost more and lessen your storage). Will the cost of this NAS exceed the cost of a monthly subscription to one of the various cloud storage services? Assume each hard drive may need replacing every 5 years or so (7 years for SSD). It *Might* be cheaper for you to rely on a cloud service if you don't need to pull massive amounts of data from the storage quickly.

[@defaultroute]

This is a great and detailed video. Well done. The NARZ (NAS) annoyed me but it’s a stupid issue ;-) plenty of awesome storage for you to hoard onto.

[@eventbutterfly3360]

Yes as I own the DS1821+ for a year now, the same shown in the video, NARZ was super annoying. Sorry. It is NAS as in NASA, but without the last A.

[@JessieS]

Synology needs to come up with a solution for photos and videos as robust as google photos with automatic uploads

[@NopWorks]

I wish they do but I doubt it. Even Google Photos-like products from big cloud & AI companies like Microsoft and Amazon are not even remotely comparable. I really want a viable Google Photos competitor; one that's as simple to set up & use and has an AI that's as good. Been looking for a long while, nothing even remotely comes close.

[@Sjnaka]

wait so the redundancy is stored only in the 6TB drive? What happened when it fails?

[@karlweb1]

Great video I shoot 3-5T a year Started back in the day with 512G a year then 1 T I am half way through my work year and my 5T drives are both almost full I need a solution badly

[@vitalis]

There is a thing called digital hoarders and they have a subreddit. People who go down this path and start backing up Wikipedia or movies that they will never watch again or are not even interested in need to step back and see if there is an underlying issue.

[@youngdannyaye]

sir, what paint color is your room? I like it

[@iamalittler]

I really fucked up when I opted for the Synology DS215J instead of, at least, a 220+. I use it mostly to store and watch movies and TV off of, but if I opted for the 220+ I would have at least been able to mount Docker images. That being said, running Download Station, Filebot, and Plex give me a cute little white box that downloads, sorts, and plays everything for me.

[@maricel6470]

How long do external storage device last?

[@gavarmmamades]

nice video! I like it.

[@Flyingchef84]

You talk about ssd what is good brand you use ?

[@leeuniverse]

BTW, you NEED to still have a CLOUD backup of your data, at least the important things.... 3-Point Backup is the Rule. Local Drives, External Drives, and Cloud. BTW, cloud can just be someone you know who has a computer (or NAS or Server) in another part of the country that you also backup to. It doesn't have to be a "paid" service like Google or otherwise. What I do is have my most important files on the Cloud with whatever Free service, Google, Onedrive, MEGA, etc. and then have everything on Internal Drives and Externals Drives (aka NAS). Of course, eventually I should put everything on the Cloud also, but too lazy and poor atm, future project lol.

[@cyberwasp461]

I've had a Synology DS920+ for about a year now with 4 16tb drives. Am hosting 5 PCs and 14 cellphones as backup. I also have a 16tb usb backup plus C2 storage that runs every day. Synology is one of the best companies for tech support also!! Only drawback is that this is my 3rd DS920 as the first two had hardware is!ues

[@rafraf23534]

How long did it take before your DS920+ had issues? I have had my DS920+ for about 3 months and going strong!

[@cyberwasp461]

@@rafraf23534 the first took about a month when i added a 3rd drive. the second was roughly 4 months.. it's just my luck not a flaw in synology. both turned out to be backplane issues.

[@rafraf23534]

@@cyberwasp461 gotcha! Glad it all worked out!

[@RizkheyG]

Yes if you using Google or one drive as production it quite crazy and NAS is your answer. but in term of reliability, I will prefer Cloud storage, hopefully you wont experience 2 spare disk break in same time and the 3rd disk break when recovering the array so yep, your data gone(I'm using RAID 6 with 8 HDD). For Me NAS is good for ongoing production only, for achieving or long term storage, maybe you have to backup somewhere else(remote location or at least different NAS with RSYNC or If your data is very important, you can backup to cloud object storage like AWS S3/Glacier).

[@josephtannenbaum8696]

I had two DNS323's and out grew them. I now have a RaspberryPi 4 with a drive bay of 4 drives and a drive bay with two drives. The four bay has two 18 TB drives and two 4 TB drives and the two bay has two 2 TB drives. You noticed I have two of each size? One is data, other is backup. I have scripts on the Pi to run backups every night. The Pi is gibibit ethernet and my modem/router is gigibit, so they are very fast even moving movies from desktop to the drives. No, can not share on WiFi, or when away from home, but I'm secure in that nothing that is not replaceable is on my different computers. If it is important, it goes the the Network drives.

[@PatrickBijvoet]

I bought the Synology DS1522+ a few months ago as a private user. And I love it. I first had two 12 TB drives in SHR. Then three. And today I bought my numbers four and five12 TB drives. I experimented with it. Editing not yet, however VM Linux and Windos. (and removed it again). I have backuped my Macs via Timemachine to it and my Game PC via Active backup for business, and made my photo and film library. In a few months the daugther of my sister is getting maried. We are going to make a folder with a QR code, so guests can upload photo's and video's to it until a certain time after the wedding, so I can give them to the happy couple. I wanted to share a large file with a friend. I just made a downloadlink for a day. Etc, etc, etc. It is such a powerfull tool. Did I need it? Probably not realy. Was it worth it? Absolutely. But I must say, I like to experiment. Thanks for your nice video. And I dod not want to start over to count the times you said NAS. But based on 6 times in a minute, it would be around 84 times.

[@bluegizmo1983]

Aww that's cute you think that's overkill 😂 My homelab has a 4U rack mounted 20 Bay hot swappable storage server. Aside from data hording, it also runs VM's and Docker Containers. Currently I'm only utilizing a few bays for a total of 20TB of usable storage, with plenty of empty bays for future expansion!

[@mendyc158]

I got like 40Tb and I’m already at 1Tb free I should have made a 100Tb from the get go :/

[@MeMyselfAndBob]

37: nas 5: noz 2: naz 1: gnaws total: 45 times ;-) (great video btw)

[@troyhickman8577]

😂😅🤭